THROWBACK THURSDAY: Smallpox & Other Biological Agents w/ Dave Jones the NBC Guy

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I'm your host, Dave Jones, the NBC guy Nuclear biological Chemical, and I want to be your personal weapon of mass instruction. I promise my listeners two things each week, First that they'll learn something new and second that they'll be entertained in the process. So here we go, show number sixteen, Show sixteen. Yes, keep our fingers crossed. So I gotta let you know what's going on behind the scenes in case we have problems. So we're on about our third backup plan here. So I'm coming to you via Okay, I'm in the northeast, you know where that damn northeaster came through. And you know, like I said many times, I'm up on a mountain. So we've been without power since Thursday night when the windstorm came through, and it doesn't look like we're going to get power back until probably late tomorrow or maybe even Monday. So I'm using the satellite inter that skyping uh too to get to you. Okay, everybody, everybody hear me. Good good, Give me a thumbs up there in the chat room. If I if I die, send something in the chat room because I have the chat room up. Everything else all my browsers are shut down. I'm on generator power. Uh yeah, we're running generator here, and I got zero bars on my cell phone. I guess I should have sprung for that satellite phone. Uh, you know a couple months back where we could get them for free. Yeah, if it goes out, we'll see you next week. That's right, yep. Generator g Mag there, g Mag charger in the chat room. He's a generator. We don't need no stealing generator right. Well, it's a generator, you know, for the hows and we're doing okay, My wife bakes some bread today. We delivered it to some of the neighbors that don't have any backup power. And we're going to talk tonight about smallpos Hey, but I got to tell you about next week's show before we go any further. Do not missed next week's show. I'm having Eve Gonzalez back on the show, and we are going to delve deep, deep into homeopathy and diseases and things that you see in a grid down situation and the treatments for those things. So it kind of dovetails was smallpox. And I'll tell you the reason why we're talking about smallpox. Off grid Magazine interviewed me on Monday and they got me on this train of thought. Was smallpox because there was an exercise that was done shortly after nine to eleven. See as we get further and further away from nine to eleven, our collective memories start to fade. So if you remember the shock and awe that this country felt after nine to eleven, we started to look around and we saw that our security was lacking, and hence we invented the Department of Homeland Security. But that's a whole nother story for another day. And we knew our spots were hanging out. So there was an exercise that was conducted and it was called Operation Dark Winter. And I'm going to put some links in the chat room for Operation Dark Winter, but you can google this. Anybody listened then after the fact, you can google this and and see what I'm talking about. But this exercise, because we knew our butts were hanging out, they said what would be the next most likely terror attack? And of course we had already been through anthrax, remember those anthrax screes, And it really was scary for a lot of people. People were freaking out at any white powder anywhere. And uh, you know, I told you the stories about when I was with Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency and we went into the white powders and we we were dispatching has mat people all over the place and we were running a ragged Finally we got around to just two guys. We would we would send two as Matt people out. They would they had a tester at that time. They would test for the likelihood and then and then if it was if it wasn't likely, they take a sample. They send it to the FBI. There were so many samples sent to the FBI crime lab that they could not process them all. I mean, it was just it was overwhelming. People freaked. Now anthrax is bad, I mean it's it's lethal, but the distribution wasn't very good, so it didn't kill a lot of people. Okay, if you seal it up in an envelope, it's pretty much contained. And what you need to do is make it airborne. So if your air solid, that's when you get a really good effect. Anyway, we knew our butts were hanging out. So they did this exercise. It was a fourteen day exercise and if you look at the people, sam none was on this exercise. They put some high rank in people on there, and it was basically to see what our responses would be. And there was a tabletop exercise they did at Andrews Air Force Base, and the procedures and the steps that we would go through if there was a biological attack and they used smallpox. Okay, let me give you a little background on smallpox. It is, in my opinion, probably the best biological agent that could be used for a number of reasons. So smallpox exists only in human beings. You know, when we talk about the flu, how it transfers from animals, you know, monkeys and pigs and all that kind of stuff and then back to humans. Okay, smallpox doesn't do that. It only exists in humans, and that means it will only affect humans. So that's good if you want to keep you know, livestock and everything else healthy and your target is the humans. It has a thirty percent mortality rate, which is pretty high, although there's some of the avian flus that have experienced mortality rates up in the fifty percent. One of them, I think was fifty seven percent of the people that were what's infected, so those are a lot worse. Has a really good incubation time. This is the time that it takes for symptoms to start appearing to where you know that you're sick. Okay, and in that time frame, see the reason it's a good time frame. Ebola has a very short incubation time, So ebola wouldn't be a very good agent because you could isolate everybody, you could quarantine everybody, and whoever dies dies and whoever didn't die. Okay, that you know. But with small plucks, the incubation time is twelve to fourteen days, so you'd have to trace back this person's activity for twelve to fourteen days, which is very hard to do. It can range from seven, seven to seventeen days on the outside. So that's what I mean by a good incubation time. Dutchman says, what about the North Korean guards who was immunized against They were immunized against anthrax and they were able to detect that in their blood. And for a country who can't even afford to feed its people to immunize a frontline troop against anthrax, Okay, that lets you know that North Korea would It would be highly likely for North Korea to use anthrax. But I don't rule anything out with North Korea now. So back to smallpox. The World Health Organization declared that smallpox has been eradicated in the nineteen eighties. Okay, so it's been eradicated, but it still exists in hundreds of laboratories all around the world. Okay, And just a few years ago we file some files of smallpox in an abandoned laboratory and you know, everybody said, wow, it was dead. It wasn't act even blah blah blah. Yeah, but they did not take care of those files properly. They were just left and along with a bunch of other stuff. Smallpox was just one of the things but they found. But they found a lot of things. So it's still out there. I mean, we have it in our laboratories. Okay, so it's it's not completely wiped off the face of the earth. We just stopped vaccinating for it. Now, part of what happened from this Operation Dark Winter was we knew our butts were hanging out, So then then they started to build up and stockpile and get ready for an attack. Now, you know, the life cycle of just about any kind of thing like that is only as far as you can remember, right, So nine to eleven happened, and it's pretty much gone from our collective memory now. So the funding for all this stockpiling and preparation has dwindled over the years. And whereas we used to have quite a bit of smallpox vaccine, we produced it, got it stockpiled, we paid, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars to get this stockpile up. Well, we didn't fund it to maintain it, and as things expired, we didn't backfill it as much. So the amount of vaccine we have right now is between twelve thousand and twenty thousand doses. Okay. The actual number is classified and it probably should be, and the locations where they're at is classified. So it's spread out in different parts of the country, the stockpiles so that they can easily be implemented, Okay, so that when I say twelve to twenty million vaccine, that is enough to handle one attack. Okay. So if you're a terrorist group, are you going to put smallpox out there in one location? Now, You're probably going to go to the four largest population centers in the United States, right, and that's where you're going to release this stuff. You're going to put it out there and infect as many people as you can, right, probably in a huge transportation hub like an airport or a train station where there's lots of people coming and going, so it can be spread far and wide. You're probably going to aerosol it, you know, spray it in some manner to get as many people infected as possible. If someone put in their mall, sure, a mall at Christmas time, absolutely, you know, at any large gathering, water wouldn't be a good source, okay, or food because we cook and process food and water. But if you air saw small pops, you only need one gram to produce over one hundred casualties. So that's a gram is about half the weight of a paper clip. Paper clip weighs about two grams, so you'd probably have a good two hundred people, two to three hundred people infected with the weight of a paper clip, okay, if you put it out there right so, and very few people are inoculated, now are this old people? We've been vaccinated for small pox, see, so it's one of the few times that the old people have something mump on the younger ones. And I've been vaccinated a couple of times since I've been in the army. So and even even the military nowadays, they used to vaccinate everybody that was in the military. Now they're only vaccinating people that are likely to deploy. Okay, if you're going to the Middle East, you're going to some combat zone or something like that, you're going to get vaccinated. So they're not really vaccinating everybody. Yep, you got the scar. Yep, that's right, the scar to prove it, and you have to get a booster every so often. Now it's old people. We have the antibodies in us, but the antibodies it might not be enough, so you most likely should have a booster anyway, So we don't have enough vaccines. The last time that an outbreak occurred was in New York City and it's nineteen forty seven, and they inoculated about six and a half million people in New York City. They did this about five hundred thousand a day got these shots. So that was quite a quite a feat, especially back then. Think about the communications that they had back in nineteen forty seven, and think about how they can reach everybody via the cell phone today. Right. So, oh, let's see, there's a question how old do you have to be sure you have been vaccinated? Well, they startp vaccinating back in the eighties, so if you were born you know, seventies an earlier you got vaccinated and that's why the World Health Organization declared they eradicated it worldwide. But like I said, it's still in Let me see if I have some more facts heres. Uh, no one knows where it started or how it started. There is accounts of it in ancient Egypt, and then there's no accounts of it in Greece, but then there's there's accounts of it in the ancient Roman Empire. So it kind of runs some kind of a cycle that no one, no one can predict ler to spring up, and uh it is. It is the deadly's disease in human history. This disease has killed more people throughout the history of man than any other disease. So it's bad, bad news. So we're about ready to take a break. But before we do, I got to put a shout out for Thursday Night Danes Gun Metal Armory. You gotta tune in Thursday night. He's given away some amazing prizes. Okay, So if you don't normally turn in Thursday Thursday Night, do it this week. Get on Day's show because you do not want to miss what he's given away. And later on we're gonna be giving away my logo, my patch. I have it right here. It is the NBC Guy logo, and I put Velker on the back of this patch, and some lucky listener tonight is gonna get this patch. Okay, but that's at the end of the show. You gotta listen to me spew another forty minutes or so and you'll get a chance to win that. Okay, we're gonna take a short break and we'll be right back after these messages. Okay, we're back. Wow. Hey, I think skypeer is working for us. So through adversity comes opportunity, right, so we found a new way for me to get true I assume I'm doing well. I haven't seen anybody say, hey, I lost the audio or you're breaking up. I know the last week's show was kind of breaking up a little bit. So maybe this is the answer skype in every week, I will do that. So the difference between flu and smallpox, Okay, the flu is far more contagious, okay than smallpox. Smallpox you actually have to come in physical contact with the person that has the flu. But let's examine that for a second. Because one of the findings that came out of this Operation Dark Winter, and I really think that is a very foreboding name for an exercise, Operation Dark Winter or you know, kind of scarce the crap out of you just saying it anyway, Uh, not bad and okay I thought that was to me. Okay, maybe this Stewart. Anyway, they wanted to develop an early warning system, a way to alert people of possible disease outbreaks. Okay, this was one of the findings because there was there was nothing out there like that, and they wanted to develop this. So uh, to my knowledge, this never came about. Okay, like you get Amber alerts on your phone things like that, this was going to be something like that or the emergency alert system you know on your TV BA BAM, Well, I mean it's Bama now back in the day it was remember that. Anyway, they wanted to develop this, but it never really came about. So I'm not sure if they have a protocol in place or not for early warning. Are they going to come on the National Weather Service and do that right and think about it? Would they? I mean, if you want to scare their crap out of a huge population center, come on there and say we've discovered an outbreak of smallpox in New York City. Don't panic. I mean, it just wouldn't happen, right. People would flock to the hospitals, They would riot in pharmacies trying to get anything that they thought would save their life. It would be pan ammonium. So the only thing I know that they have is something called hospital divert and that's when hospitals, I mean, if you think about this, when hospitals become so full they can't take any more patients, they alert the state headquarters. Well, they probably go to the county first because the county controls, you know, where the ambulances go. So then the county notifies the state head quarters that that hospital is on hospital divert. So that's the early warning system that's in place. And by the time the hospital gets so full that they can't handle any more patients, it's already too late. Those smallpox people. First of all, let's say you're a terrorist and you're gonna attack the four major of population centers in the United States New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, and pick one more, San Francisco. We're at California twice. How about that. So they released this stuff, and they spread it out pretty good and people start getting the sick, getting sick, you know, twelve to fourteen days afterwards. Well, some people are going to go to the hospital, some aren't. Some are going to say, well, this is like the flu. You know, I'm feeling sick, but I'm not that bad. And it won't be until they start getting the little bumps like chicken pox. Okay. And even when they get the bumps, they're going to say, no, it's chicken pox. But how can I be getting chicken pox because I've been vaccinated or I had it when I was a kid. You can get chicken pox twice. By the way, any hospital that takes a person like that and they're going to test, they're going to run a test. They are not going to declare its smallpox until they are absolutely positively sure at smallpox. And in the meantime, that person is infecting more and more people, okay, everybody that comes in contact with them, and it's probably three shifts of nurses. Okay. Now, naturally they're going to isolate them, but many, many hospitals do not have isolation capabilities. Okay, this is different from ICUs intensive care units. They're all over the place. I mean that's hospitals you know boast about their intensive care units, but very few have have isolation capabilities. That's why when they brought back those people that had a bola, they had to take them to specific, big hospitals that could handle that type of isolation. And then everybody gets training in isolation. But you know, a nurse will get training in isolation and how to handle someone like that. But if you don't use it every day, you don't practice it, those skills become rusty and they may have only ever had it in like nursing school, never did it again. You know, if a pediatric nurse goes to pding, you know, maybe baby doctor and they're they're not going to be verse as versed as isolation people that are handling ebola patients. So it takes a lot of practice and they don't be infecting people along the way. So at the if you hurried up, if they were shocked this crap and they thought it was smallpox, they would hurry up. This culture, it takes a minimum minimum of forty eight hours, okay, icee US intensive care units, and yes, airborn infection is very different from ic US. Yes, that's the point I was trying to make. Lots of hospitals have intensive care units, very few have isolation capabilities. So where was I got to stop paying attention to the chat room? So there they're infecting other people in this forty eight hours that that culture is coming back. And that's only the people that they go to the hospital. The other people that are at home or trying to stay away from the hospital are infecting their family and their fans. Family is infecting other families and so on and so forth. So very quickly our resources are going to be are going to be tapped out. Like I said, they have enough vaccinations vaccine stockpiled to be able to handle one outbreak. See, and they're assuming that the outbreak will be a natural thing and not a delivered attack. So you know, a delivered attack is spread out across the country. Okay, So that is the bad news, right, So what is the good news? Is there any good news? Yes, there's good news, and the good news is us the preppers. Okay, First of all, this is going to be different from any other disaster in that in other disasters you get help from outside, right, neighbors helping neighbors, You know, friends, relatives helping each other. I mean, that's what you see right in hurricanes, floods, natural disasters, tornadoes, people helping other people. Well, people were going to be staying away from other people because they're afraid of getting whatever that person has. And actually isolation is probably the best thing, and that's what you know we should do. We should isolate ourselves. Nothing in, nothing out, no contact. I mean, if you could trace back your steps for the last fourteen days and all the people that you have come in contact with, could you even do that? You know, think about the places you went, grocery stores to get gas, chure work, places that you don't stop normally that you might have stopped that. I mean, it would be pretty hard, pretty hard. And like I said, no no warning and reporting. Yeah, so what do we do as preppers? Okay, I'm glad you asked we with the isolation, there are certain preps that you can do, like get the wipes that kill ninety nine point nine percent. You know, the hand sanitizer corrocks bleach. Okay, it kills just about everything, I mean, and you don't want to use it straight. You want to dilute it with water. But the things that and you want to sterile anything that may have been in contact with other people. So and the trigger point has it got to be the number of deaths. Okay, So in the news when you start hearing about people dying like this flu season. This flu season was exceptionally bad and it's probably gonna be one of the higher flu seasons for death before it's all over. We're we're more than halfway through right now. So it's it's on the downhill slide. You probably won't hear much more about flu, right, I mean, it's it's peaked. It's on the downhill slide. But the numbers, the numbers are all in yet for this year, so we don't know how it's gonna go. But it's because there were two different strains of flu that came through the population and that's why people were able to get the flu twice this year, even with the shot. So yep, I did not I did not say anything about r SDL, my sponsor r s d L. This is uh, it's for chemicals, okay, So this is what you want to have on hand if there's a chemical attack. Although T two toxin is a toxin that is produced from wheat, mold, okay, wheat. The United States calls it a biological agent. The Soviet Union they call it a chemical agent. So, and the Soviet Union was the one that developed it way back, you know, when they were in Afghanistan. Now we're in Afghanistan, so they actually used it in Afghanistan. It was nicknamed the yellow Rain. And it's something like a hundred times more deadly than nerve agent. So this is this is some bad stuff. And R S d L will decontaminate that. R S d L is the only medical countermeasure that's available for chemical weapons. And uh yeah, if I have the Amazon it's available on Amazon. I'm gonna put the link in there. R S d already dot com. There you go, copy paste artist d al ready. Yep. Definitely need that, definitely needed. So I've been thinking about putting together this like man purse you know that has all your your chemical stuff in it if if you get in an attack or something like that. There, someone helped me out, Mike Michael Clon. Thank you Michael for sticking to other in there. You can get it on Amazon. Yeah, it's so new, it's only been available since October. So that's two civilians. It's been out for years and years for the army and they supply thirty armies worldwide. Uh, the Israeli Army uses it, of course, the US Army. It's totally one hundred percent of American made. I know that's that's important to a lot of preppers. But r SDL got to have that you go bag. Anyway, I've been thinking about putting together this man purse, and it's designed for the people that work in urban areas and to be able to carry this on you wherever you go. And it has everything in it that you would need to get out of a contaminated area. Okay, the little rubber of gloves mask a thing to put an rsd L in this pack. Okay, So people that ride subways, get on trains, do a lot of travel and that kind of thing. That's what this would be for. Okay, we're gonna take a break in just about a minute. And before we go, I want to say, don't miss next week's show because I'm gonna have eve on and we're going to talk all about homeopathy and what you can do for the most likely diseases. And I see Mike Elks is in the chat room. That is great. And Mike, if you think I didn't answer your question last week, go ahead and pop something in the chat room. We'll talk about it. So we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back to finish up this segment on smallpox. And I'll tell you what good news. Okay, guys, we're back. Hey, And I wanted to give you an idea how bad this could be because if you you know that thirty percent casualty rate was smallpox, if you PLoP that template down on the United States, that's ninety eight million people that that would die. So now I don't think an attack would be that effective, but it would be bad. I mean, by the time they got their hands around this and got it handled, it would be lots and lots of people dying, probably well, probably in the millions. Yeah, okay, So and the preps that I'm talking about, the good thing about this is it just doesn't handle smallpox. It handles every kind of biological agent out there. Okay, So you can't get a bulletproof best that will handle all bullets, right, So this stuff handles all biological things, flu, smallpox, uh, you know, all the diseases and agents anthrax, although anthrax is very hard to decontaminate, but you can do this. You can you know, decontaminate with these things. So let's see, you talked about a nuclear power plant. Yes, what type of chemicals? Ah, Yes, transported on the trains. And our SDL is for chemical agents, So these are warfare type chemical agents. It wouldn't necessarily help for like chlorine or phosgene or things like that, So it's for my nerve agent and T twotks and them that kind of stuff. There is a lot of chemicals traveling up and down the railroads that has a tendency to flip over, and it usually happens in Western Virginia. For some reason, it seems like earylier week there's something falling over in West Virginia. And they'll tell you one of two things that either say evacuate or shelter in place, and most likely it'll be a shelter in place. And to be able to shelter in place effectively, you need to get to the center part of your house. You want to get away from all the doors in the windows. Don't worry about the duct tape and plastic Okay, I mean unless you live in that old farmhouse that was built at the turn of the last century where the wind blows and the curtains move, you might need some duct tape and plastic then, But if you live in a modern house, it's sealed up pretty good. So what you want to do is get to the center part of your house and stay there for as long as they say, and maybe a little longer, just to make sure. Basically, whatever tips over the cloud, if it's if it's aerosol, if it's if it's vaporized, we'll pass by wind, rain, any kind of weather will dissipate it. Okay. So and then if you have to evacuate, you want to take a direction upland you don't want to go downlind Okay, So you have to kind of think about that. You have to think, if I got to evacuate, I'm going that way because the wind's blowing this way, and I know you can't see me, but I'm pointing. Okay, any other questions there in the chat room, got a lot of people in there. Thanks for coming. Hey, Now you know I said this these preps. You know, I use smallpox as a sample, and I'm posting a lot of stuff on smallpox WMD protection dot com. That's my website, so if you want more information, go there. And we're about ready to give away this my logo. I'm holding it up to the microphone. Can you see that? It's just really nice. Let's see if I got a picture, but I don't got a picture I can share, but it's it's on WND protection dot com if you want to see it. It looks like an American flag with radiation biological has hazard and there's a chemical has the symbol in a black field, okay, and then the stripes are gray and yellow. So it's a real nice patch. I got one on my hat right now, and we're gonna give it away to a caller that's gonna call in, and you gotta talk to me. You can't call in and uh, but you got to call what's the number here? Let me find the number. Okay, I got it on my phone, but my phone is no working, so it is come on blog talk, where are you and to push one when when you get through, it's uh one three four seven two zero two zero to eight, and then when you dial that you have when nice lady answers, you gotta press one. G Man beat me to it. It's in the chat room. First caller gets this patch and it's got velcrow. You can stick it anywhere you like. I got one of my hut. I'm gonna put one on my vest. First callar gets it. Okay, Well, while we're waiting for a caller, I want you to google Operation dark Winter and read some of that. It's pretty interesting and the findings what they wanted to do, and they created this national stockpile. They have gowns, masks, rubber gloves, they have had. They have this thing, this national stockpile, to be able to respond to, you know, something like the anthrax things that happened on a national level. They also have vaccines and that's where we got smallpox. Yes, it is a pretty cool patch. G Man has a picture of it. Anybody got any takers? Anybody calling in, come on see Beth. I know you want one. You won once before he and I do. We did give away those tickets to Prepper Camp. That's this September Prepper Camp. I will be there and three people are getting free tickets. We just gave those away this week. Okay, anybody call in. You got about eight minutes eight minutes. Boy, Okay, funny story while we're waiting for the caller. Funny story. So there is this Air Force colonel. This before before I retired, I was at Indian Town Gap in Pennsylvania and this Air Force colonel he was recently divorced and I was going through my divorce and he hears on the radio about this secretary's night. I guess that's kind of I guess administrative assistant knight or something like that. And it was at this big hotel in Harrisburg and everybody was supposed to bring in it was free for secretaries. So he comes against me and he said, Jones, We're going down to this thing. So I'm like, okay, I don't know. So we go down and a bunch of ladies up there taking names and all this kind of stuff, and she says, well, this is just for Secretar Cherry's and the colonel points to me. He says, this guy's my secretary. You got a problem with that? And she said, oh no, no, sign in, sign in here. So we sign in. We go into this huge ballroom. I mean it's it's massive, and they have an ice sculpture there in the middle and it's like a free buffet and drinks and everything. And we got our beers, were standing next to this ice sculpture, and we're looking out over the sea of women. Okay, And I turned to him and I said, you realize they all think we're gay, don't you. Yeah. We did go to this one table where they were they were signing up for a cruise, and the guy says, we have to be a couple, and the colonel says, well, I mean we're together. I mean we're together, but we're not together. The guy says, okay, go ahead, sign up. Anyways, Yeah, it was pretty much fun. By the end of the night, we were in the hotel hot tub and that's that's where I'm going to leave that story. So no one wants to patch g Man. Anybody on nobody calls. Yeah, yeah, we've got elks right here with us. I messaged you in the chat room. Thank you. Hey, Hey, it's great to talk to you. We've only ever exchanged emails. No good evening, good evening. How are you doing doing well? I think I was able to get on my phone and call in early tonight because I had to listen for the first twenty minutes on my phone. Oh, computers, my computers right, yeah, ready, Yeah, my computer was so slow I had to call in on the phone and listen the first before I can log in. Yeah, we were having technical problems here too. I mean, jee, there's still one hundred thousand people with electricity here in Virginia and I'm one of them. But prepper that I am got the generator going. We're we're doing good. So I wish you could see this patch, but I will email you a picture before I send it. All. Right, Now, did you emailed me your address one another time? Did you? Yeah? I can do it again. Hey, if you could email me again? Okay, Way, don't have to go back through like a million emails. Okay, Hey, and thanks so much for listening. Is there. Do you have any questions now that you're on. The No, not tonight. You know you've answered some of those. I actually work at a hospital, so I do understand the UH isolation and the hospital diverse. Yeah. During the whole ebola, we actually had a potential ebola patient at our facilities. It's quite interesting. Well, then you show the whole nut from the inside. Oh yeah, wow, And I bet the hospital went through some gyrations when they thought they had an ebola patient. Right, Well, we knew he was coming, so we were able to prepare for that. Oh okay, Yeah, isolation is hard, isn't it It is? It is something that's you just don't do in you know, a few hours or a few minutes. You got to have prepared for that ahead of time. Yeah, and then there's a lot of resources you need because every time you'll come out of that ward that area, you got to take off everything and to decontaminate and then yeah, go ahead. Yeah. That's one thing that I think we were a little bit unprepared for was the amount of contaminated trash uh and and stuff just from going in and out, and how when you you had to discard everything and plan on decontaminating it before you send it out. So the that was something that was something we learned through that is a lot of trash has to be decontaminated and contained. Hey, and think about that in a grid down situation. How would you do something like that at home? Yeah, that's it would be tough. Yeah, you really have to think outside the box. If all you had was large trash bags and and duct tape. Huh. Hey, Well, I really appreciate you calling in, Mike. You're you're a great caller. Thank you, and I'll thank you for you got my email. Yeah, I do. Well. Sure, d L Jones at d L Jones dot net and any listeners out there that have questions email we d L Jones at d L Jones dot net and give me ideas for upcoming shows. Uh. Next week, I'm gonna have Eve back on, and the next two shows after that, I'm gonna be travel so we're gonna do We're gonna try and do live shows from Prepper Show expos. So I'm gonna be in grays Lake. That's the Chicago Fairgrounds, and then the week after that, I'm gonna be in Mosquite, Texas. That's outside of Dallas, about forty five minutes north of Dallas, and that's the Self Reliance Expo in Mesquite. Okay, Well, thanks a lot, Mike. I really appreciate her calling in and getting this patch. Yeah, and telling us firsthand what goes through you know, at a hospitals. That's very timely on what this subject is about. Hey, Mike, have you ever been vaccinated for smallpox? No? I haven't. I think he dropped off. Oh okay, you know, I want time. They had talked about yep, they had talked about all getting all first responders vaccinated and all medical personnel vaccinated, but that that never did come about. They started build up to that, but it never did come about. Now now they don't have enough vaccines. So thanks a lot, Mike. I really appreciate it. Okay, we've got about two minutes. Two minutes to go, and let's see see if I got any shout outs here. Oh yeah, if you still want five dollars off your order of silver. Now, this is silver that is designed for preppers and it's I'm gonna paste it in the chat room. Five dollars off Jones Radio is the code. This is uh turning into my other sponsor. Call gu dot com k O l g A dot com and that's Jones Radio. You get five dollars off your order, So go on there and buy the ninety nine point nine percent pure bar of silver that can be broken off in little increments and for for when the grid goes down. Okay, that's about all the time we have for tonight. 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