2026 MoF Summer Camp

Matter of Facts podcast at the Campground, No roll in, No admin work, absolutely not. This is the one time I don't do admin work where I don't get frustrated Nick for getting me off topic. I intentionally try to delay him at least five to seven minutes because he gets a little irritated and he gets more creative. It's a good idea, you know. It works out pretty good. Sometimes I get the nastiest looks though, if you're not watching it on video. Sometimes it's like you just swear to God. No. But the worst part is is that that one time that we got literally all the way to the end of the show and I was like, damn it, I got him to an hour and twenty five before men remember to do the admin work. It's turned into a thing for him, like how far can I stretch this out just to totally screw fill? And it really doesn't take that much sidetracking, which is the beautiful part. See him and me. You've probably noticed from the podcast, Oh we've got Brian. Here with us. Oh yeah, hello, and we've got flat Andrew. He's lost a lot of weight. It's going really good. He did you went to the range with everybody? He checked out the porta potty. Oh yeah, that will be probably on Instagram later this week. Oh, Gillian has already started like cleaning up and prettying up all the pictures and everything so that I have a folder full of stuff for that's approved for social media. Oh fantastic, excellent. So that means you took all the felonies out. Well, no, it was more the fact that like, well, yeah, it's a spousal felony when when you put a picture on social media that does be prayer in her best possible light. That spousal felony. I've learned. I've learned that over the years that my definition of beauty is not hers. Because I take a picture on my honey, you look beautiful. I'm fat, I'm uggling. My butt's enormous. It's like, okay, you take the pictures of yourself and let me know what looks okay. They just they just need to believe of us and then it'd be fine, you know what, But exactly wait, and that's fine. But we can be biased in favor of our wives. Would you rather us be biased in favor of other women? But hold on, I thought, how am I biased because I look at you more than you look at you. Also accurate because you picked me, And so are you saying that I So are you saying that I have a thing for a dog ugly women? I mean, what are you? What are you trying to assaulting Phil's taste in women into the problem. My axes were nowhere near as bad as yours. You know. So more than once. Rachel has said that you and I are functionally the same person from a different geography. Gillian said about the same thing her exes X Also, my god, I don't know high school questionable decision making. I yes, say pretty much all of us questionable decision making in high school. But I'm just gonna look it there because she's too far away from the mic to defend herself, but not far enough the way to throw things. Oh no, she's definitely within throwing things right now? Do you want to throw things? I don't have anything to throw for the moment. There you go. That works. So this is the twenty twenty six matter of fact summer camp. This is this is what for those who have not managed to make it out to one of these. This is the thing that grew out of the realization that we were going to prepper camp year after year, and the group we were going to meet we weren't really going to prepper camp anymore. We were just going to hang out with our friends. So Gillian and I and Andrew had this idea years ago, like, why don't we take the thing we love the most about that the sitting around the campfire, the sharing stories, the sharing booze, the showing off toys, the goofing all off. We did goof on the fires, but it has been like ninety degrees in one hundred percent humidity, so we screwed up the fires. This time a fire it is. It is our early spring nicssarily spring bonfire. But it was still everything. I still please don't knock over my tripod if the video suddenly goes like upside down, Okay, we got away without it. Dacid baby. Normally I have to worry about drunks tripping over the tripod. This time is just a pupper. Well, you know there's good smells under that tripod, you see. Yes, she's pretty good, except with the lead. Last night in the middle of the thunderstorm, or was it this morning? This morning in the middle of the thunderstorm. It is downpouring cats and dogs. This dog managed to wind herself around three patio chairs nice on a table as a well head. That's like a god dog. Yeah that is delicious, good, delicious. But saying, the thing we love the most about doing this was that the sharing, the fellowship, and the thing that we wanted to bring into this kind of event was make it something that was like, not structured, not a prepper camp, something that was had a nice lope barrier to entry where you could actually have a fighting chance of smooth talking to your spouse and kids and coming to meeting your weird friends from the internet. Exactly and except for. Except what we'll keep working on. We're there, She'll come, She'll have fun, shouting out with the ladies, we'll go to the range'll be great. I tried, so yeah it next time, maybe next time. So this year is at Pennyroyll how Forest State Park in Kentucky. Beautiful park. I have to admit, like last year, I thought Michigan was gonna be real hard to top. This has been a lot of fun. Okay, to be fair, though, the joists, the floor joists in these cabins significantly more structurally sound. The windows are very well sealed. That's true. We don't have random critters coming in through the windows those cabins in Michigan. I know you weren't there, but buddy, you ever see like a nineteen forties fishing cabin that's really only been updated by paint? That was it? That was it, right there, nineteen forties fishing cabin. They on ours. I think we had the smallest one that they could rent, and we did that on purpose. We did that on purpose because it's just the two of us and the dog. Fair enough. It was, gosh, how many square feet do you figure that was? It was seven square feet. It couldn't have been six hundred square feet. It was probably five hundred square feet plus maybe a forty square foot bathrooms, so maybe six fifth Oh yeah, the tiniest fricking showers, and I've ever been in in my entire life, dude, like eighteen by eighteen with a radial shower curtain going around the outside no matter where I stood, shoulders hitting all three walls. Yep, amazing. I did not know they sold them that small. I had the option of either my chest touching one wall or my butt touching the other end, and the shower curtain was wrapped around me the whole time. I mean, beautiful scenery Macna Island. If you've never been macn Island, amazing. Would go back. In fact, me and my wife are talking about going back at some point. She's talking about one to do that for our twentieth aniversary in two years. Are you gonna do it? Doing the winter and fly in negative? No, we were talking about doing the thing where we could actually like exist. Oh, come on, now, you can exist in a macanaw winter. It's only like and I think the average temperatures eleven nick. Based on the descriptions you've given me of how much it snow's around you, I already think you're psychotic. Okay, To be fair, we get some Yes, we get some years for every single week we get six to nine inches of snow. But there's some years we only get like three blizzards. Yes, but by comparison, nine inches of snow set records where I live, records since recorded history. It has never snowed nine inches at my house ever, except for this past year. To be fair, you're relying on one hundred and fifty years of French records before real record keeping took off, okay, so I will give you stella please all the time. It's still where it needs to be though, to be fair, French history, Ish, French carpentry very very good. French carpentry good, which I think Chris is sold on the French carpentry T shirt. I'm telling you we need a French carpentry T shirt and then we need a Granby Community College welding program eighteen months to completion insurre if you know you know what do you think Bryan both? I'm thinking French carpentry enthusiast on the front and the guillotine on the back. So people don't really realize the joke until you're. Walking away, right, it's solid, I do. That'll really sell it at the hardware store. I mean, you're gonna get a lot of questions about what is French carpentry. And that's the idea, and when they see the back of the shirt, this question should largely be answered. It will explain itself. Should it be carpentry or lumber check? Carpentry? Definitely carpentry. Right, there's a little bit of precision, just just a little bit, I mean, guillet answer pretty precise. I mean they are and they aren't. I mean, you're really looking at now from the recreations I've seen, you're really looking at just split timber frames, maybe a little bit of side acts work to square everything up, and then you're just dropping the blade vertically. I mean, it's not not rocket surgery. It's terribly complicated. I mean I built more complex things in my basement that Stacey that just pulled around. Oh good, we'll have to harass her into joining the show. This is very important. Harassment and forcing guests onto the Summer podcast is the tradition. Last year it was Kyle and what was his wife right now, Victoria? I kept claiming they were married. At the time of recording, they were they were engaged. I had definitely had too much to drink, which matter of fact, I uh. They asked me at summer camp if I would roast and grind all thereof So they did. They did a bunch of like little the little grab bags for the gifts and for the guests and everything. So each one I roasted, roasted myself ground all uh packaged up, and every one of them was enough for four cups coffee. That's perfect. Yeah, they tried to pay me for it, and I was like, no wedding present. Yeah exactly, Like I mean, I get it though. Yeah they're they're being play right, but like, okay, no, you two were cool. Also, they really really threw it out of the park that that year with the sour dough. They brought like what four loafs, like six? Oh yes, chocolate jalapeno cheddar. There was a regular one. What was the last one? Chocolate volapeno cheddar? Regular was the other one. Oh, you're right, like a cherry man that was. That was really good. The dog did not like the vlapeno. She liked everyone else. Girl, you have Matt Stacy before you love, but Piper didn't give her snacks earlier reset their relationship. That's right. You know it took me six months to buy that dog's love with chatter cheese. I bet a cat for four years. It still doesn't like me. Well, I mean it's a cat. It's the white cat. Well, you know. So speaking of your wife did coffee for Kyle and Victorious. Me and my wife did popcorn and we did a pun thank you for popping by and the outside of the little bit adorable because like, I'm not going to have a wedding without at least three puns related. Oh that's right. I think when she sent out the invites it was penned me in and there was a pencil tape pencil listen. Yeah, I can't be allowed around fancy functions without puns. Otherwise my brain just sort of explodes. What did you guys do? We got an Irish themed wedding. Okay, we got married on Saint Patrick's Day. Intentionally, that's fanlastic. One. Many people went to the hospital. None. Exercise. It was. Yeah, it was a very sober wedding interception. Yeah, Kilan and I got married on Good Friday and several yes. I come from a very very very observant Catholic family. One of my aunts refused to come, and my mother showed have been black. You're why obligation the Holy day of Obligations, day of morning. Oh yeah, that's a fair point. Although although it was you know, the family saves you a lot on the per person, per play cost. But in my defense, the family that did not come, I largely don't talk to, so it was kind of like, eh, that's a win, but their their checks cash the same. Mm hmm. Well that's nice. At least the gifts were nice. That's that. You know that sixty reason for the wedding is the wedding gifts, and no, sixty percent of the wedding is because the life demands it. I was in favor of eloping, you know, I don't think either one of us were in favor of eloping, that is true. Who's who wanted to elope? Men? Oh well yeah, after we had planned and paid for and gone through all the organizational bullshit, I was like, this is stressful. We just gonna get married, right now, that's fair. When yeah, when all the pane kicked in and we lost our photographer a month before the wedding, it was two months, it was it was it was six months, okay, so that was more reasonable than I remember. Oh my god. We did a potato bar for the very irish, right, potato bar at the reception. Dude, I dig it. There's working you can make with potatoes that I won't eat. I have discovered. It's just baked potatoes. Stuff them with whatever you want. Yeah, that actually sounds amazing. It went really well, Hey, what are we doing for your my brothers? What sister in law? My sister in law sorry, I started, I started drinking at dinner. What are we doing for that? Can we do it like a potato bar? You're not going to be there, all right, I'll go to the range. Fuck it so I don't know what I'm supposed to go to. Nobody tells me these things. Your wife does, she told it, well, sold I won't remember. She'll tell me the day she's going. Well, you didn't know what it was. You were never remoted. That's probably a fair point. So speaking of the range, yesterday was kind of a wash. So yesterday was a lot of travel for me. Yeah, Nick and Rachel didn't drive in until yesterday. You were here to meet us when we got when we came in on Sunday. Very nice of you to welcome him. Yeah. Of course, yesterday was mostly a wash because it was like pissing raining most of the day. But then today was the I wouldn't call it an annual be cause Gottawan knows when we'll be able to do this gain. But it was the first MF summer camp range day, which Brian arranged. And we own them all some thanks for that, we do. And he refused to let us throw money at the problem either. I mean it didn't cost me anything. Oh, I know it didn't cost you anything. But like I said, at the range, and I'm sure Phil agrees with this, when there's a really nice range, we like to keep tons of money upon the range owner to keep the really nice range available. To be fair, if we'd gone to the other range that was closed because the family was on vacation, we probably would have all spent a couple hundred bucks worth of AMMO. Fine, done, sold, don't care. I can't blame it for being on vacation. Yeah, no, no, they get to be on vacation. I mean if they wanted all of that money, which we would have shot lots of the money. Here comes Stacy, Oh sweet, fantastic. But yeah, we went out to so it was a twenty two range, a rifle range, and a pistol. We introduced some people to high bore rifles. I I think my itch for a big, bad banging rifles but scratched for a hot minute. Like, so you didn't like the three hundred Phil thinks I might be mentally ill putting one hundred and twenty rounds of a three hundred win mag in a single range session. Down range I'll agree with that. Okay, that's probably fair. One of your friends is up there. Oh damn, that's cool, Gillian. Take a look at if your very large friends is out there plays on knockover my tri This is a wild looking bug. We are not going to get the camera on that bug. That's so cool, all right. So one of the great things about these campouts we do them in all different locations and you get to see some wild careers. Killian got introduced to groundhogs. Know, groundhogs a thing. She'd never seen one there all over the place. Here, I know my dog killed one last week. This spider has got to be a solid inch and a half across. Nah, up to here come the range. It was the extreme like spread. I got a picture, but it's not a good angle. Oh we're going to get a picture for the instagram. That is a cool spider. A fishing spider. So I mean you put them on a hook and throw. Them spiders if you're aggressive enough. They carry a bubble of air underneath their amen and go underwater. And then they catch Oh cool, that's wild. But yeah. At the twenty two range, we introduced a couple of people to new experiences l twenty twos loved it. Piper shot her for semi auto ever in life today, that's a good I take it back. She shot my my Henry Survival rifle like a couple of times. That's a semiono. Uh. It runs more reliably than the semi auto she would shooting. Put it that way. Yours can make it through three rounds. Yes, mine can make it through like an entire range day without choking once I've experienced, to be fair, only two were they Henry's or were they? They were the Henry's, the original Henry's. They were the original Henry's because the guys are old. But two three rounds jam every time. I don't know if it was the magic god damage, it was the magazines. And if you talk to those gentlemen again anytime soon, yeah, tell them they smoke. I was just messing around with it. So tell them to go online in Henry's website and purchase a couple of new production magazines. Okay, because the Henry Survival are offered. They updated something in the magazine and ever since then they've gotten a lot more reliable, Okay, and they're backwards compatible. I mean it's the same gun. Wow. So it fits in the charters, it fits in the older Henry's. But it's I don't know what it is. It's different. But I know that everybody I've talked to that has one of the newer ones, like from the last five or ten years, they're great. The magazines come with them are phenomenal because they've had nothing. These guys have had nothing but problems with these little survival rifles. Yeah, and you know, to be fair, the guys that have them are like, yeah, you know, I throw it in my truck from when I'm going to bush lacking enough. Oh there's another dog, yeah, you know, just standard extra dog stuff. Yeah. And the funniest thing is she played with cricket just fine last year. It's probably because it's dark. Sure, yeah, I bet noticing that camera is not having a good time with the light out here. But it's fun. Oh, we'll figure it out. We're shadows. Yeah, But witness Protection. Got got to trade around a bunch of the twenty twos. I've been informed on the way home that you needed ten to twenty two. If I purchased a ten twenty two and spend some money on it, that someone might come out to the range and shoot with me more often. So I have The key is you buy a bear receiver and you build from there. Yeah, put that Brown Els or Kid with a hole in the back of the receiver so you can clean it from the breach yea, and not from the muzzle. That's the key, that is. And Ruger doesn't do that on their factory guns. Yep. So get a strip receiver from either Brown Els or Kid or hold it back. I'll have kids are tighter tolerance to. Yeah, the kids are better, for sure. Brown eyes are just fine, but the kids are made to be a competition. You do pay a little bit more of a premium, absolutely, But if you're going to build from a receiver up, that's the way as well. A little premium. Yep. Mikes cleaning a whole lot easier. Yeah, it does. I will have to bear all that in mind. When you got to play with semi autos and the twenty two's their first experiences with suppressors, which spoiled. It's always fun, I know. It spoiled traded around like every gun any of us had, except no one would shoot the marlin, which is fine. That thing was having an issue. I've put a couple of sports of oil down into the fire control group and it behaved itself a little bit better. But I think I finally just sucked it up the fact that I'm gonna have to tear that fire control group all the way apart and figure out what's going on. Have you ever taken the extractor out of that fire control group? I have not? Okay, the bull yes, so yeah, sorry, So it doesn't seem to have an issue extracting except for that one time it's ejecting. It's getting the round the case out of the But one of the things I noticed with the old Marlins, I have an older Marlin to home as well. Sometimes there is a burd on that casting that didn't get fully machined off. And then we'll do is it'll hang up either with the case snapping in, snapping the rim under or taking the rim out from under when it ejects. It doesn't seem to fully want to move. That gritty feeling you were talking about, the gritty feeling was actually in the the ejector though, because also the last time I had maybe I'm wrong, the last time I had the fire control group out, the ejector is just it's a little little rod with an angle, with an angle right angle at the end of it, and when you actually that, you can feel grit in it. So the last time I had it out, I hosted out with ballistall and like worked at a bunch of times and it smoothed out a lot. But it seems like once every magazine or two it just gets a little bit lazy, and you end up with, you know, one spent case in the chamber, one trying to load out in the magazine. And that's suboptimal. I mean, generally two and one doesn't go well. Two and one does not go well. But other than that, everybody seemed to have a ball. Oh my gosh. We spent like what an hour and forty five minutes on the twenty. Two range, probably longer than anywhere else. Almost almost two hours on the twenty two. I spend more time the twenty two range in anywhere. Oh geez. We probably put between all the guns. Oh gosh, youw hundred rounds? Oh more than that because I put was it fifty in a box? I put four boxes through my stuff, And I have to say yours, yours in particular, it's smooth, That's that is I have to admit it looks silly, it does it. It's this tiny title receiver, a barrel. You could beat an elephant down, and overscope is the only way to put it when you have a third a thirty two X scope on the No. No, it's a four to sixteen forty MILI tube with overtravel on both on both axes. It's only a sixteen X. Yeah, yeah, four to sixteen, but on a twenty two sixteen feels like thirty two because really you're not shooting at twenty two beyond two hundred yards, really you're not. You can The range we're on goes more than it does. And I did sing some steel at three hundred by it, but I was at I was at max max up elevation and I was holding Max on my moa drop, So yes, I was dropping like I think when I mathed it out, it was like five and a half feet six and a half feet something like blistic cofishent like an artillery piece. Oh my god, you're you're essentially lobbing a football. But twenty five yards fifty yards there's a laser beam. What's that that? I don't have that stack up of steel discs we were shooting at on the a frame. Was it like a two inch down to half inch? Probably they're small. So I was able to in a ten round mag and it was a seven. It was a seven target string. I fired nine rounds and I was able to hit seven. I missed too. I missed number five and I missed number six once each, but then I tagged him on the second one. But dude, hammer forged inch in an eighth profile barrel. Oh dude, it's it's amazing, but it is it is cheating when it comes to twenty two. Is that carbon fiber rail you've got in yours is sweet? Yeah? Well, courts and barrels are nice for sure, Oh my gosh, but they're not cheap either. Oh you feel that's what you need when you build one? You got to buy a quurts and barrel. Absolutely. So how much am I going to be into this ten twenty two? Oh? At least one thousand dollars? Yeah before before if you let us build it for you, Yeah, if you do. If you let us spend your money, we're gonna get you in the night vision range for a ten twenty two? Nick, Am I ever going to get you in a night vision. Yeah, to repay the financial damage. Yeah, maybe so far, because like I'm just I'm just look, I am fighting the county already. I'm probably gonna have to retain another lawyer to get this stupid garage billed. Then we can worry about night vision. Because currently all Right feels aware of this. I don't know if I've mentioned this. Here, you talk about on the podcast. Oh no, not that. Oh maybe it's my newest obsession. I have the plans for a twenty two long rifle gatling gun. Yes, so I need the garage. Yes, I need the garage. I need the garage to house the machines to build the twenty two lar gatling gun, which I mean, who doesn't need a mini gatling gun? Everybody? Everybody does. Click. And the best part is because it is a other type weapon, and because it is crank fed, it is fifty state legal sure, and it's a rim fire, so you can feed that thing all day. You're not looking at fifty bucks every time you're run the crank dry. It's nice. Oh dude, it's gonna be so cool. It's also gonna take three or four years to build. Either that or I'm gonna manage to smooth talking. You're making one of your cannons in about forty milimeter. I mean, I can. I have I have some some uh some dom tubing, so continuous cast steel tubing that's currently a one inch I was thinking about making. I was thinking about making a swivel gun eventually for it, I will, you will. I have some six that I can make into the chamber for it. I'm concerned O six and heat treat tends to crack. It's very prone to cracking. But I don't know that I need heat treat on it in order to withstand firing pressures. For that, I got to run some calculations, but we'll see. I'll go to them into it one way or the other. Can we fire a swivel gun at your range? Yeah? He doesn't care? All right, Yeah, I. Guess I'm making a swivel gun. I mean his only rule is be safe. So be safe because as in fire the swivel gun, not at the four hundred yard nor spots. Right, Yeah, okay, okay. The only issue is the nearest hospital is twenty minutes away and it's not a very good hospital. Okay. The very first thing I did was hold up the the the Rebel Raiders, a pothcarry over my head and say there's a whole blowout kit and a tourne quit in here just case. We have plenty of dear and yeah we oh yeah, a low qualified individual use. Yeah, that's right. I mean, add the flight M two. I have said on multiple occasions that there's never a great place to get severely injured. But these kinds of events aren't the worst. Okay, to be fair, any one of us is probably better than your average Joe at Walmart. Absolutely. I mean we've at least taken a first aid class, most of us. I mean, oh, most of our wives have taken more advanced first aid than your average Walmart goer. I've done things that most EMTs haven't done. Probably not that I wanted to, so, you know, but in a case the rifle range though, that was it. That was fun. That was fun. It was a lot of fun. Oh my gosh. Of course this one starts off the day by like, hey, here's a mos in. Everybody needs to fire the moon with the banionet on it. Of course, yeah, kind of write a passage. I mean, it's only what six and a half feet seven feet tall when you put the band at least yes, every everyone had, Everyone had to be encouraged. No, really hit hit the bolt handle hard. Yeah, pain to close. So for those of you that haven't fired to mos and haven't had the pleasure, that is basically the sledge hammer with a barrel. It's built so that you could use it as a ham a sledge hammer in a pinch, it really is. You have to fight the bolt into the firing position. You're not gonna chamber this round accidentally. You're also not gonna extract the round accidentally. You really got to put some gumption to it. You gotta treated like an osa money. We did. We did learn an interesting thing about those bandetlogs, didn't. We We did. There's a release button. There's a release button, and if you don't clean them first, what are they full of? Full of cosmolin? So I'd fully cleaned the rifle, that was not a concern, but I'd never put the bayonet on. I never shot the rifle. We also learned that, interestingly enough, US and his GI and communist cleaning rides do seem to be somewhat compatible. They're halfway competitive. Somewhat for pushing. At least you can. You can jam them out the far end. Because the cleaning rod that's in the bottom of the stock is not long enough to go all the way down, and I didn't have to handle. It doesn't make a ton of sense to me, but I'm not Russian. It does. It does. When you look at the mos in cleaning kit. If you buy the rifle with the cleaning kit, there's about a two six inch attachments that go on the end of that to then go all the way through, and the cleaning kit's only like six inches six or seven. It's just to be in the butt stock, correct. A lot of them were hidden underneath the butt plate. Yeah, fun fun times at times with that. When I got the when I when Gill and I inherited her father's s KS, was the realization that not only had the cleaning kit disappeared off to screw all its yeah they do that, but also someone in China got a little lazy when they were drilling that hole for the clean kit and it wasn't actually the right diameter for an SKS cleaning kit. That sounds about right. Also, it I didn't realize this, but apparently SKS and AK clean kits despite looking very similar, are not? They are a different diameter, Yeah, very different day. Yeah, I tried. I tried to put an AK clean kit because I had a couple extras of those. Yeah, and then I had to take the butt plate off and mortar it to get it to pop back out. So I went got an SKS clean kit and then had to had to gunsmit with just for sure Waller around just a little bit so popular with him. Which okay, so do you ever find out is it a Norico SKS or is it a Chinese SKS or is it a Russian SKS that you have? So it is a seventy six Chinese manufacturer that was imported through B squared. Okay, so the question is B squared is cleaning kit a Chinese of that model number? I don't, I know it's Chinese. See here's the thing. China likes to change shit, yes, and not keep great notes on what they change correct. And the problem is a lot of the documentation for the SKS is the Mosines the AKS. They're in metric Ish, yes documentation. And I do mean that quite seriously because if you look at some of the old Mosen documentation they're in old Russian imperial measurements. Oh also, were you aware because I wasn't until I got this silly thing that the Chinese, depending on what year they produce the SKS, used either pressed and pin barrels or screw in. Yeah, yeah, two different series. I can. Then there are screw in with press pin locked. I came to this realization when I purchased as a correct stock for a Chinese SKS, and I noticed that the inletting wasn't exactly right. And that's when I realized I had a screw in stock on a pressed in barrel. It fits, it works fine, It just looks a little lot. But given given that the only the only parts of this SKS that are still like original is basically the barreled action like I had, I had a source, a box magazine, a stock, a bayonet. Although interestingly enough, when I ordered the bayonet, the bayonet came on a piece of cardboard with Neurinko like packaging and everything on it shrink wrapped. It was like an original huh. It looked like an original old stock urinko and that was imported us and it was sitting on some of my shuffer. God, knows how long. I'll say it probably was. I forget oh and Chinese slang because once I got into the mode of like, put this thing back together, you're gonna respect. I spent the time to look for all the correct Chinese parts, even though Russian would have worked. You know, Russian would have worked mostly except for maybe the stock, because I think the Russians primarily used pressed pressed in barrels, although as barrel in line. Okay, so yeah it would have fit. It would have been fine. I mean most of the Russian akas were pressed in barrels, but some of the warsaw Ak's were threaded. Uh, Yugoslavia, I want to say. Maybe, Okay, so you think that's yougo, But yeah, the Chinese did all kinds of weird stuff with their sks. Is something some more box mags. Some of them are the sks ms ya actually have the correct bottom metal to use AK mass, not the duck bill like thirty round gun show specials, but true box stock AK forty seven megas in the world. I mean, fine, Okay, if I got one by accident, that wouldn't be mad, But like why that was a later addition because the the aks were getting really popular for import in the US. Some Chinese, because they really love to sell stuff to the you know, to the white boys. They do. They started making sks as that would accept AK forty seven bags because at that point that you're talking about, like early eighties, yeah, you would be and you could get a crate of freaking like old milser akags for nothing. You really could. Oh, speaking of the aks, Brian bought a brought a fun toy to the range. You want to talk about that vapor sol video. I think it was a veper a, right, So I have always referred to it as a Romac three. Okay, so it could be Romack three is a viable model number for it. Okay, So where was yours made in Romania? Okay? Yeah, Romack three, Yes, Romack three vapper. You know it's it goes by a few different names. Yeah, go ahead, So it's a it's the Romanian copy of the Russian dragon off. I bought it in the late nineties, dude for out of a catalog for about seven hundred and fifty bucks. That hurts my Yeah. It came with two mags about four more later. The dovetail for the site mount is wonderful. You take the scope off, put it back on. It holds zero, and the thing is a dream to shoot the recoil and it's really weird. The impulse is strange. It is a weird, weird recoil impulse. But it's comfortable. It doesn't throw you around. It just shoves you. Yeah, it's it's like it's like a buddy coming up and giving you a stiff push on your shoulder. Yeah. Every time, there's no there's no sharp impact, there's no violent upward jerk that you get something with a three to eight semiono it And I gotta say, you're right. It holds zero, like you would not believe we're what's that? What were the gong sizes it one hundred yards? Do you know? Off hand? I don't know. They're probably ten inch twelve, I. Mean free standing off hand shooting. No problem ringing those guns and I had no problem hitting the two hundred yard torso with it. It's fantastic. And that was with fun you know surplus. Yeah, super old spam can surplus m exactly. So it's not like we're shooting sub m O A M no. But still hell, the shooting rifle. It's always been fun to shoot. Although I have to say the three hundred win meg definitely scratched my itch for violent. Why did you shoot it sitting down? Everyone else was standing. Up because shooting it sitting down his bench appropriate film needed to understand the amount of pre coil I was subjecting myself to for funis Yeah. Now, to be fair, it wasn't like it was like bag or anything. I was shooting off my yeah, a little bit. Yeah. But as Gillian asked me afterwards, she was like, so, how was that three hundred that really loud rifle Brian had? And I was like, they said it was kind of shotgun recoil, and it kind of is. But a gun, a shotgun is like a good solid push. Yeah, the shotgun was like a thump, and this thing is like being in a car accident. Yeah, like a sledgehammer. Yeah yeah, but hold it like a twelve gage and you'll be fine. I like a twelve gage, you won't jump out of your hands. I don't want one. I mean I don't. I don't. I don't want one. No, Okay, So Phil, are you familiar with the Nemo three hundred win mag aar, Yes, it sounds like a bad decision. I can tell you right now it's a terrible decision. It's wonderfully fun and you can spend so much money turning things into noise. I had to explain to Gilly and like, what on earth would you use that for? And I was like, you use that when you're hunting something that three away may or may not put down and might try to kill you. After a bear with mine? Yeah, or I bet it would do that. Just definitely kill a black bear. I mean, I bet if you needed to drop an elk or a moose in it's tracks, Oh, I do great for that. But if you had eight hundred meters, but if you shot a Southern Louisiana white tail with that thing, you would cook it and clean it one shot potentially, yes, yeah, yeah, you could hit it in the butt and it would mount its own head at that point. Yeah. So when I shot my bear with it, it went through both lungs and took out the shoulder blade on the fire side. Oh really, yeah, it went through the shoulder blade on the fire side. Us for that, the same one you shot today as one hundred and fifty grain. Oh, one hundred and fifty green okay, so not not super super heavy. No, that's solid. I mean there were what were those rounds going on thirty two hundred thirty fifty measurement. I don't know that we measured it, so I don't know. Somebody threw a chrono lone. I want to say it was thirty two to fifty okay, So they're moving pretty good, you know, for one hundred and fifty years old. While I consult the reloading data. So this is the exact same caliber that that I have my what I call my three hundred vibe check rounds that I've made for my three hundred wind mag. I took one hundred and fifty five Grand black tips M two ap pulls out of thirty odd six and I threw them over Max Sammy Speck three hundred wind mag cases using Imar forty sixty four. I will not give you my powder charge because I am drunk and I don't want to be responsible for blowing up your gun. Quaranty says one hundred and fifty grain about three thirty three hundred. So I've managed to get one hundred and fifty five grains up to about thirty six fifty five as my about average, which is cooking two level four plates. At two hundred yards. It will go through both. Do not shoot these at anything that you like, but I mean put children to it. You can go up to Jesus. I mean, I think I've shot two hundred and eighty grain pills on my three hundred win Meg nice, which is it's a stout. It's a stout bullet. And honestly, I've never found a range at which they were appropriate because I've only ever had access to three four hundred yards. Sure, yeah, and that's the way I am, which is why I don't know anything bigger than the three hundred right yards as long as I can go. And you know, really, at four hundred yards with three hundred win Meg, it's kind of a joke shot because the bullet is so stable. At those distances three four hundred yards you can shoot golf ball sized targets realistically, if you got a quality right Yeah. But man, it was also the first time I ever got to push my eighteen jar passed one yards, which is very respectable. I thought I need to spend some time beyond that, all over a third scale ipsick at two hundred yards, all over that I mean you were you were combat and effective at two hundred yards. Yeah, but for a seventy seven grand match king and a handload. I feel like part of the problem was me. Part of the problem was you. I will I will say kicking man Bill is down. I appreciate. Hey, you know, I'm not trying to kick you. I'm just saying I've done a little bit more bench rest shooting than Phil has, and I think some of it is the most real. I've been doing a lot more recent interest shooting than you have. You've been focusing on self defense shooting well. And also I have been to the range exactly four times in the last twelve months. Sure, and every bit of that was shooting twenty two's all that a three hundred And that was the first thing I admitted because when you were like, do you want me to shoot it? And I was like, please by all means, because like we were trying to tweak the scope because very obviously part of the problem was we were shooting at a very slight downward angle. We were five to seven degree down the angle. But also like I shot that thing for group with when I made this load, but I haven't been out to the range since to like get the scope zero okay, but to be most fair shooting at a downward angle into a gully was swerving. Yeah, I really need to get the thing back out to my home range hundred yard target and really like try to spend some time shooting small groups and make sure that the scope is really on point, and I just need to put ambo through it. Philip, do you have bags? I do, I don't use Actually no, I don't have bags anymore. If you don't have a rear bag, are you familiar with the fist technique work with that? I mean that that's how I shoot my three away Winchester off front bipod and then rear rear fists. Yeah. So for the viewers that don't know, the fist technique is essentially, you ball up your fist underneath the butt stock and you you either squeeze your fist to bring it up or relax your fists to bring the rifle down, and you rely on that for your vertical and then left to right is all on your shoulder, so it gives you a little more fine control that is separate from your breath. And I mean that's the I guess that's the frustrating part is like I know that back in the day, when I was shooting more regularly, I managed to get the three away Winchester to like clverly four rounds together at one hundred yards. So I'm very capable of making some fairly nice, consistent small groups. But I haven't shot the three away in a couple of years. I have, I just I have not done. I have not done anywhere near enough range work in a very long time. Yeah, that is it is definitely a perishable skill. It is a very perishable skill. And in the last two or three range trips that I have made have been explicitly focused on small groups at long distance. Yeah. In the last couple of trips I've done, it need have been familiarization exactly fun shooting with Piper with twenty two. And the only thing I've really kept abreast on is like I make it a point every time I go to the range, except for today obviously, as I see, I seen fifty sixty seventy rounds through you know, through my carry gun, so that at least that skill stays up in the current look. I did bring mine through seven Heaven out with my dad fairly recently, so apparently, whereas I used to always say I shoot rifles really good and pistols okay, now I shoot pistol okay, and rifles I just have to relearn. I know how you feel. I've done the same thing the last few years, a whole lot of pistol and no rifle. My rifle skills have really suffered. You know. It's it's amazing how perishable that skill is. Yeah, the frustrating part of though, And like you know, I've talked to you all about and when raising Vagues reboots, we will be bringing the audience up to speed on like the last nine months of me and my wife's life. But like every spare weekend, every spare afternoon, like sometimes two or three times a week, we've been running back and forth to the next town over, and it's just it has absorbed every bit of free time to the point where like, like we have I have maintenance tasks and need to be done on the house and other vehicles that are that keep getting pushed back because it's so many hours in the day. Yeah, well, you get to the point where it's like, okay, we have a weekend, we have I'm off on a Friday, we have a three day weekend. Yeah, I'm gonna spend the next two days dealing with things I don't want to deal with, and then Sunday like turning the phones off and it's it's no one is allowed to intrude into that time except for me and wife and my daughter and try to reconnect. So you're gonna like it. We just kind of had that situation proved for a bit, and now that that's starting to settle down, I'm trying to refocus on like, Okay, there are things I need to fix at my home, there are things we need to work on on the vehicles, and we're just trying to like do things like this where it's like we just punched the reset button. Hey man, you really need that in your life at certain points because you can only give so much to other people before you start destroying yourself. Yeah. And that's on top of work, which you and I've talked about that the complete cluster. Oh man, No matter where you work, no matter where you work, there's always times a year or seasons in the work that are just just a chick no matter what you do. It's the hard part for me and I suspect that if I like, pull the audience right here. All these men and women would tell me very similar to a story where because you're a very conscientious worker, you make yourself indispensable. Is it a moth? Moth justlew my drink protein? No, well, if it makes you feel any better, pitch it over the edge. Yeah, pitch over the edge will fill it. I don't need a it's been sterilized. But I'm not going to drink them all. I mean you could drink. It's like drink. It's like the worman's kila. No, No, this is not You're fine. You can do this one last time the twenty five weeks. They really liked this one. You did not get the track because I didn't have it last time. It's a sixteen ride. These are the two local ones. Yeah, these are the two local ones which you will have to try, which I have to say, I think this is my favorite. Is the Jackson Purchase? Yes, the Jackson Purchase. My god, is that a smooth drink? So this is batch match number one of Jackson Purchase Hickman, Kentucky. We will probably have to have. We'll figure something out. I'll figure something out. The other one here's the old tarret from Paduka, Kentucky is good. It's good. It's not as good as the Jackson's purchase. The Jackson purchase much this. Is unique and I don't know how to describe it. Smoking. Yeah, it's it's more complicated. So it's it makes me feel like it's going to be stronger than it is. But it's not. It's it's not so strong. But you think it will be at the beginning. Yeah, the bye, the bite of the at the start is stronger than you would initially think. Knowing is proof but anyway, so just I feel like probably because of our our own individual like work ethic and conscientiousness, just what if God know everyone's personality, Like, you probably make yourself indispensable at your workplace, which means two things. You are the one in the middle of everything that goes upside down because the only one that can fix it. And it also means that like, whereas most of your coworkers work at seventy percent, that means you not work at two hundred percent trying to pick up the rest of the work. Right, what do we do for Oh? So, how do we talk about this without talking about it? So I write software for industrial automation. Oh okay, And at this point I do more consulting than software writing, sure, and I build tools for my coworkers. Okay, And what you were trying to describe about picking up the slack for our coworkers, we have to pick up the slite for our customers. Yeah. So everybody I work with is great, and they're all full in, great individuals that're all have great skill sets. On the software development. They kind of have to be absolutely Yeah. Yeah, there's really not a lot of room for slack there. There's not. It's our customers that we have to go in and help out and pick up their slack because they don't know. They're very new to what we're doing. Usually y and so it's a it's a very different world, but it's a lot of fun. You know, you have you ever done work with Tracting? I don't know the name. Okay, it's a small it's a company in Wisconsin that builds like many storages and garages. Fab still okay, okay, Yeah, my brother's an engineer up there. I thought you might have worked for them. He does a lot of the integrations of new equipment up there. So a lot of what we do ends up being in the manufacturing space, right, So. They do like stamp steel buildings. We've never done anything with the buildings. We've got customers that do body parts, you know, oh okay, core panels, hoods, things that they make, the metal stamping machines that make those parts. Sure, that's heavily automated. So absolutely, it's all automated, even the transfers between the presses so they can. Keep the guy's hands out of the press. Yeah. Yeah, there's nobody nowhere any of these presses. It's hundreds of tons. Yeah, definitely. The hard part for me is that it's not even like I could throw off my coworker say oh my coworkers just slacking, But it's like it's a segregation of responsibilities and skill sets issue, where like it's I would have to have a person with a certain level of knowledge to be able to teach them the processes that I do, and if they don't have those processes, then the time it takes me to teach them how to do it is better spent just doing right. That's that's the trap I fall into a lot of times because like a lot of what I'm doing is We call it reconciliation put its data analysis, and it's really hard to like just literally just a week ago, I was doing one of these reconciliation processes I do every fricking month, and I have to do a data sweep through thirty three thirty four thousand accounts that are a setup for automated payments and make sure that there whatever their health record, whatever the health insurance record states they should be paying, is what they are paying in the automated system, and there are reasons they're valed reasons Sometimes those two don't match. Sometimes people want to retropay agreement, or people are it's like their last month before they come off with roles, and it's correlated. But the system, all it says is they're supposed to pay this much because that's what's in this one field in the database, and this is what the system is charging them. Why are they different? So what I finally did this past week was I dumped all this into Excel and I took the data table I built from doing this last month and use v lookup to pull it into this month, so that if I had made a note like a month ago that oh, this, this is this, this one had a credit on the account. I'm pausing it until August. I pull that in. So now I know the reason these pseuit on match is because the next pay it is coming out August. Basically, I just I keep I keep looking for shortcuts to make this process faster and faster and faster, but just to teach somebody how to use something as simple as Excel and use V look up and then format the US two tables properly so that this data set that came out of the application that was not formatted, by the way, and this one is formatic because I formatted it last month. They matched because, like you know, when you used V look up, if the if the data formats are not exactly, say I like, if this is text and this is number the look up, we'll say those two. Mostly yeah, they say no, it does not agree what you do. So it's it's it's data analysis. And unfortunately, I'm in an operation segment where all of all of my coworkers are operations people doing changes to the health records every day, and my job is to basically not be embedded down to the operation, to be up up to thirty thousand feet saying I'm looking for a trend in the data or something doesn't look right. Yeah, make all the make all the final numbers into dollar amounts. Yeah, at minimal. Yeah, it's it's basically I'm following back behind eight people who are making change these applications every day and then over a two week period. Every week or every month, I have to go back through everything they've done and say, these are the things that flowed from the top. Don't look right? Yeah, because at the end of the day, when you have this much human intervention, you're gonna have human error wave high to the camera time. Oh yeah, yeah, they can't see they can't see your faith because your back. We are all shadow people tonight. It's okay, it's witless protection. Witless protection. Yea unintentional witness protection. But yeah, it's it was nice to get out of work and to get up here. You'll like share share boos and stories and film there about plastic start to and old fashion and tomorrow's I know that some of our group is gonna head out tomorrow. Some of us are gonna go sight seeing, ye, some almost are gonna do some hikes around here. I think. Yeah, there's about fourteen miles of hiking trails, I think in just this little area we're in, which is great. You have fun with that, because if I try to get my if I try to get my girls to hike fourteen miles, I won't be going. We're not gonna do all fourteen miles. We'll probably circumnavigate the lake in the four or five miles. Nice easy night. And then after that, I mean Thursday, the three of us are heading holding up steaks and heading back home to reality. I'm thinking, well, there's the Casey Jones is still real. One of my coworkers Western moonshine cherries. Somebody give him some of those. What do you think. It's different than the other two? It is? It is. It's a week or that, right, the sixteen rye. Okay, so that was the sixteen rye. That is a northern style bourbon. It's the Canadian, right, I've got Canadian. But they call everything right right, yeah, they called bourbon rye and I'm like, no, you got a right now? Oh yeah, no, No, there's bourbon, and there's rye bourbon, there's blended bourbon. I gotta be honest, after drinking these others, this we know is a lower alcoholic content. It feels watered down. Doesn't Yeah, it does. The Northern Bourbon does feel okay, all right. I wouldn't trying to be insulting. It's just different. I think I think you are correct. It does feel a little water down. I have to say the Jackson purchase definitely the winner of the night. It's good. Yeah, oh my god. Absolutely. But if you want like a really good, really good Mexan, that's for flavor. The one thing we do have to do this evening for iple start balling out. So we got to figure out what to do next year. Oh yeah, we do have the biggest spot. We We've learned our lesson from last year. Last year we just kind of like, okay, guys, we'll figure it out. And the figuring out happened in December, which was and thank god if it happened then, or we wouldn't have had anything true because we did book all the available cabins and spot. We have this park. We bought the entire park. We did we did to be We did that in Michigan too, Yes, but in michigative is because they only had five cabins. Yes, you're not wrong. Here's because we waited, Yeah, do we want to go back to Arkansas? Because my wife has not been to Arkansas? I mean, Gillian did say. Gillian and Piper were talking about how much Piper liked Arkansas, and Lake de Gray is Lake de Gray's art does or to pass up. Although there's another place a little bit north from the late Grade called uh petty g. I keep trying to explain to people from Arkansas that they don't know how to pronounce it the places in their own state, right, because it's it's spelled pet Jean, you know, t I t J. I gonna look up a name here. I'm gonna make the field pronounce it, okay. But but in my defense, it's named after a French lady. Therefore, I'm claiming that I know how to pronounce it better than the people from markets. But I can't. Pronounce this k thank you. It is not a complicated name. How else would you pronounce that Toshiki? I have heard so many different names. Time out a second, Hey, Gilla, So I look. At this and I think Milwaukee, Yeah, and so I would go, yeah, kshwak Milwaukee exactly. Nick, She's gonna stick ahead, and this Mike here hear me out though. Get get an idea in your head. The name of this the name of the street is Choppatulas. That sounds right to me, Get it right. Listen. I have had so many people call me asking where this the street is because they've heard of it and they're trying to find on a map, and there's nothing on the map that looks like it would be spelled like that. Looks like when you drive into Washington, d C. There's three or four cities, three or four exits driving into d C. Yeah, good luck pronouncing the names. Yeah, yeah, of course. We also have a street that's called Burgundy. And if you pronounce it Burgundy everyone in creation, it's gonna look like, well, Burgundy is the color of Burgundy. Is a place Burgundy, It's a place. It's like demon Brewin in Nashville. I can't spell it, and until you see it, what I'm saying doesn't make any sense. But there's this street in downtown Nashville called demon Brewin. H chop it toolss. L A. Yeah. It's a riveting podcast with a spelling base. And that's before you get into some of the par This is an educational podcast, yes, but the things that we normally educate you on we'll get you put on government watch lists. Okay, fair, But so we're having any kind of fun, It's true. But you know, except in Kentucky. What do you mean accepting Kentucky. I'm just saying. Earlier you said, you know, we were talking about pictures and felony photos, and there's no felonies in Kentucky. Is that the way it works? There is no felonies in. Kentucky, not at the gun range. Anyway. I got some ideas, there's probably, but I'm adding a topic for us to discuss colonies in Kentucky. No, Carni con Oh, okay, have you heard about this? No? A short version a YouTuber was discussing information I had to make explosives. Oh yeah, the stuff on the USGS manuals. Yes. And the ATF is currently trying to ruin his life because of discussing government published manualists on the internet that you can google. Right. Oh, no, speaking of speaking of the things you've seen on the internet recently, Phil, I sent you I don't know if you checked your Instagram. I sent you that video from Ireland. Apparently a Sudanese migrant has attempted to behead and gouts out the eyes of a. Man in Dublin with a pocket knife. That's kitchen knife. A knife of some sort. Yeah, apparently the Irish are not taking this well. And I have to say pulling to Ireland for that one. What I mean, but. I think it's been discussed a lot in Europe right now that this third world immigration is caused, and the fact that these people are flat just not integrating into your immigration without assimilation does not party agreement. Oh I agree, I couldn't agree more. I mean, we have a valid culture that goes back thousands of years. All of Western culture is based on the the Age of Enlightenment at mins, the Enlightenment ideals of how government should function, how your personal behavior should function, and a basic Judeo Christian model high trust society exactly. The high trust society at the very least equitable is the double at the very least equality before the law at bare minimum. And I think what we have seen now proven and is no longer in disputed that in the UK, in Ireland and Wales, most of the European countries uh to quality under the law, except if you're a microan accept if you're a third immigrant. I mean, there's a lot of you know, I I have to say, you know, I don't really have any skin in the European game other than the fact that our our system of laws are based on the magnet cardinal Yeah, at its at its root. You know, a little bit in French law, for Phil's perspective, in Napoleonic code, intermixed a little bit Napoleonic code. But the vast majority of you of US laws are based essentially in the root of the magnet cardinal equality before the law being measure in a sense until proven guilty, being the cornerstone behind that key. But my gosh, it seems like Europe now has abandoned this entirely. Europe has also abandoned any pretense that like, they've abandoned any pretense that people have a right to freely express ideals in a non violent yes, like yeah, at this point, like freedom speed is a foregone conclusion. Oh, it's essentially speech is illegal in the UK if it upsets the crown, if it upsets a migrant. But if it upsets the crown, I suppose because the crown has determined that there are groups of people that are above criticism. True, but I'm just quoted from history now. But every time the government has tried to has tried to enforce different rules for different classes of people, it has usually ended poor. Uh yeah, I can't think of a time it's ended well, Brian, I got nothing. I mean, okay, well, French French Revolution, Imperial Russia, Soviet Russia, maos China, Na to Germany. Any time you take one whole group of people based on an ethnic or a American, taxing them less than the British, turns out if you tax Americans not enough, they revolt. Well. But to be fair, if only the crown had thought to compromise a timey little bit and give us a non voting member of the parliament, Brian, are you familiar with this, the actual requests of the American revolutionaries before they started violently rebelling. The specifical question. But there was lots of olive branches. As they talked about. There was, there was, There was actually a full decade of all and there was actually a pretty big push in Parliament to give the American colonists a non voting but speaking representative. That was the key. We wanted the speaking representative in Parliament, someone to voice exactly we didn't want to vote. What we wanted was the right to share our great parliament, the right to speech, and that is what the UK has violated, and that is what the Government of Ireland has violated. And that is but the EU has violent the fundamental right of the individual to voice their descent. And the people are not reacting well to this. Gosh no, as they shouldn't as they should if I've always stated, and like I've had this conversation for years, because I do work on public sector, absolutely, and I've had multiple people tell me, like, you know, Phil, like you're kind of our canary in the coal mine because you say what you say on the internet for all the world here. And if ever there's a day where like you basically get chased out of your career in polite society, then we know things have gone to a different level where now you can't even voice your concerns or your opinion without immediate consequences. And I find that a little interesting because I know I'm not the only person in the publics, in the various segments of the public sector that thinks the way I do. You're a but I'm the one of the biggest bulls. I'm a back probably because we are a small content creative. In all reality, we are a small content creator, definitely, definitely micro niche and and you know what, fair enough limited topic matter, we can be fairly abrasive individuals from time to time. We've been known bit with our supporters. We've been known to because it only sharpen a harder procest product. Look me and Phil, we've gone back and forth about a number of things before, and we do it respectful because we want each other to be better. We want our patrons to be better. We want each other to all be better, because rising tide lifts all ships. Really, and and if you cannot intelligently and articulately argue your point, you probably don't understand it well enough to voice it. This is the This is why bring up the problem of speech codes in Europe and the problem of the migrants in Europe, because really, really, the governments there are favoring the mark the migrants with speech codes, with Islamic protectional ordinances and a variety of other things. Blasphemy laws essentially enforced in all of France. Thought crime exactly, thought crime if the populace cannot speak freely and cannot dissent from the government. The only next viable reaction was violence. And this is why we can never give up speech ever. And I would add this, you can't take two different things and mix them together with two different rule sets exactly, because that just creates chaos. You have to have at the very least, at the bare minimum, a unified rule side. I think that's a perfect the perfect way law, equality under the law, and realistically the Seeks are the perfect counterpoint to this. In the UK, you cannot have a pointed kitchen knife. How evos, if you are at SEEK, you can carry a pointed dagger in public, openly displayed for all to see, and to stab your neighbor to death. Let me tell you see, it won't end well, no it won't. It won't because all it takes is one person with more intentions to make it end portly. And then the protection is that ensues. And the problem, the next problem is going to be that the harder you try to tamp down that reaction, then you just buy more of it. Because the point of the reaction and this and this is all something like we've talked about before we talked about like insurgencies and gravil war and everything else, like historically, the problem is is that the state only knows how to use force until the problem is solved. Correct, And the state has, if not a monopoly on force, a near monopoly on force because the amount of force they can bring to bear is substantially more than an individual person. Oh absolutely, and using a large amount of force almost guarantees collateral damage. It does, and collateral damage is how you create more gorillas. Yeah, which I wish our country alert at some point since Vietnam because we seem to repeat that mistake over and over and over Iran. Now great, yeah, I mean I've said it before, you know, I'm like, okay, if you smoke one terrorist, hooray, But if you create three more in the process, because now everyone's gonna want to honor kill you and your people for it, it's like you're not solving the problem. No, you're absolutely not solving the problem. And what's even worse is you can take theoretically innocent, biased unbiased parties, neutral parties create new enemies out of them because of the collateral damage. I mean, yeah, great, you bombed the building that the guy was in that debris spread out for three centi blocks. Yeah, and maybe that debris killed somebody's mom. Now, those three boys, they hate you for life, regardless of what you say. Well, and if if we learned one thing from watching like Russia's intervention into Afghanistan. Once you kill two whole generations of fighting age men, what you've done is create multiple generations a fatherless young men who are going to be fighting aged very soon, who are growing up without any kind of a moderated voice, who are ripe for someone, for any mom or someone else. Tell them, the imperialists killed your father. You should get revenge, right or at the very least, At the very least, even if they don't have a they killed your father, you should get revenge. They have nothing. All they have is your father is dead. Yeah, and everybody wants to know why you know? Hey, guys, does anybody else want to jump in here this evening? Does anybody else want to jump in before this night, before this goes on? Good? Jump in. We're mostly I got Chris, you got you gotta pop over here to this seat right here. We got a microphone for you, and you will have to do the traditional mic checks that I can dust your tone. You will have to do the traditional mic checks, the same speech. I give everybody, whatever distance you're gonna be from the monkey, do your mind check of that distance because if you, if you might check you out here and then you swallow the microphone. Chickeny check. And I have had too much. To drink, chicky check. I have literally had way too much to drink. Keep talking, keep talking. Say words I'm using. Words are good, words are good. I'm using the words you forgot speak English? Okay. I think I think we gotta get you got Chris, Yeah, Chris. So far summer. Thoughts, I've had fun other than all the steps. Oh the steps, that's exercise. That's been you. You'll suckered me into this to get me here, no ship to make me start exercising. Yes, you've you've succeeded. Point of this podcast is for filled to make people better. You've succeeded. Good job. Now I have to go home and continue to finish myself. Did you die? So I like? Did you die? Oh? Did I I did. Not die, Still very much alive, and as you're talking. I have not died. My calves may have died once or twice, but they're fine, still hanging in there. Calves are an optional accessory, not exactly. Still gonna need them. I watched the guy iron Man with nothing below the knees. Calves are actually, uh, what's the dude? Oh god, I keep watching him limbboss. Oh god, he is hilarious and he just proves you can do so much. This is the one that just has no legs and he just he is hilarious. So I know that. I know that the day yesterday y'all were I know it wasn't yesterday. Day before I went saw the beach, had to go through your kid in the pool. Yes, through the kid in the pool. That was stay. Yeah, that was really day one, really early that day. We stayed in the pool for a few hours. Then yesterday went to the beach and stayed two three hours down there. We discovered spring Pool. So spring Pool, Oh yes, we we went down there and the one soda they brought because it's five miles of straight up hill back to the car, we had want soda left and nobody was drinking it. I was like, there's a any stream that comes down right next to the rocks, and I'm going over there and it is ice water. I went over there and stuck the spray can down in the sand and just twisted it and left it sitting right there, and it's like about an hour later they went back over there and opened it and it's still pretty cold. I went with the old moonskine moonshine trick like the old timers used to. And then today you got you got your first experience with the first. M O f rain. That was fun. That was fun. Three hundred win mag my first tv A. T. I am moderate lesson. I have played with Cruiserve weapons before, but that three on wind mag is controlled violence. It is. That is. So I shotted it. Almost all of the the all of the stuff in his rifle case just went everywhere, all over the place because they're just kind of sitting on top of his case. And I'm over one of my blocks, my phone blocks and set an opponent so i'd be up. I enough, Yeah, and it just so that thing is. I don't think it's nice. I'm pretty sure I felt my my brain bounce off both sides of my skull. Oh you did, you did? It's you? I mean right. It was fun, but I don't ever want to do that again. You can taste clacking off about. I still gotta quick, I still gotta check fifty off my list. Three thirty eight lapoo would be nice to check off my list. Cakewalk compared to three hundred, because it's a boom not a crack. Yeah, it's a little slower. I couldn't. I can't tell you because the last fifty I played with listening too. Okay, so I fired a single shot fifty, which is about as violence as you can get. Yeah, there's nothing of being recoiled. No, no, there's not. There's really not, except for the muscle break, which didn't take sense. You can taste copper when a single shot fifty after about ten meg, you can taste a little bit. The The sixteen inch pistol version is what we needed, Oh, the one that blows your dreadlocks back, you know when you're negative. The thing about M two is, even though it's on a tripod, because you're gonna shoot it on a try, but after you rip a whole belt for that thing, it's because there is no muzzle brain, oh gosh, and there is no flash hider, so all you get is just the constant wave of concussion, just like thump umpumpump, thump thump in the front of your forehead. So for those of you that five five six, you know that feeling on your eyelids that just feels like a weird flutter when you're clacking off, almost almost like somebody in the back of your brain your face you feel out on the back side of your head, is really what it is. Yeah, I encourage everyone if you ever get the opportunity to build the butterflies on them too, I encourage you to try it. But I don't know that I would regularly if I could help it. You know, we had a Northern Illinois. It was a few years ago. I got a chance to rip belt some RpK rounds free standing and I and I told you guys, like, no, I've shot some big caliber guns. You know I'm good. I was fine. Then RpK wanted to fucking clock. Yes, she wanted to really climb, like I had to switch from an underhanded sea climp to an overhand hold down. Yes, she wanted to climb there. I cannot imagine. What have you seen? You definitely have to posture up on Oh, yes, yes you do. It's not even just get behind it. For the recoil. But you have to literally like you throw your shoulders forward, posture, roll your shoulders forward, break the hips, break the knees, race that and pull down again most of your way on your front leg and blade. Let it look you back out of your back. You start at the bottom of your target and just let it. Let it walk you out. There will come a day where I get to do it, at least fill OUTO somewhere. It will cost me a lot of money in a credit card being laid on a counter. I'm sure somewhere there is some down that way in Coffeeville technically, but in that mobile ish area. Yeah, a little couple in the area. Get down there, try with the ninety. They just drive them out. Because I mean, I shot the Falado and that was I thought, very controlled coy RpK starting to walk away from you the lot P ninety. Oh my god, is that fun? And I'm a Stargate fan, so my nerd is coming out, I know. So it hurt my soul that there was a P ninety there to not shoot. So I paid for three mags, three magus in a row. God, because why not you can drop pictures? Well, we know that it will kill aliens and all alien hardware. It does not matter what it is. It will kill anything there. Is except force field symbios, replicators. Phil, if you're not watching enough Stargate, Stargate was not my shot, Dude. I've watched some, but I haven't had like such an Anties are the key winners of the show. And I really want to say that gun because you shoot somebody three times, they disappear. They just they just disappear. They're gone once it's time twice to kill. Three times to dessent gone. Doesn't matter what you shoot either. You can shoot a person a thing. I won't this, I won't one. You know it's a rock random house that one time. All things are possible in the world of sci fi. So, Chris, what are y'all? Y'are head home Thursday? Right, Actually we're going Friday. Our plan is to go home through mits south the well, let's stop mince out first. Obviously, my wife's like, we don't have enough room. I'm like, we have enough room for some powder. I have enough as I have enough fimers. Now I need powder to. Match the Jack Daniels distillery because that just seems cool. Look that seems cool, and then. She might have with another couple of things on the way. Girl, what do y'all doing for the rest time you're up here? Though? I think tomorrow I'm gonna let you go punish me and we're gonna follow you up trails somewhere or somebody or some mix of you. We were talking then the cave. Yeah, it's two hour drive, and then when we get back, we're probably gonna hit some of the trails around here. I recommend probably convince her to do that. There's some beautiful little trails when ill this camp. Yeah, well, and really what we're looking for, and that the reason we're doing indicator first is so that if her ankle starts to hurting or a gilliing or Piper starts to get tired, like, we hit some of the small trails here and not commit to anything really big where we're all beat up by the act. And I think the only thing you wouldn't want to commit to is a certain navigator, which that would be a bit much for my files. Don't make me lie. I know there's a couple of them to a waterfall or something down there. So there's a couple of waterfalls right down there by the beach and a hiking trail that goes up behind it, and yeah through there and right now it should really be a waterfall. I've got a trails subscription, so I'll just pull that up and have it find the trails for us. Well, if you come up past our seven is where the starting lake trailers, and that goes all the way around the lake and back up to these kinds. Okay, it's four miles. Yeah, I think it's. Yeah. I mean we're gonna go and do and see and have some fun tomorrow because I know that Thursday morning we gotta pull up hitting it south from the way out, we stop and see some family in Huntsville, and then it's all together nine hours driving to get home. So like hour lunch family, and I think the plan is to hit hunts Bill for about noon. Yeah, so like you know, we'll be home like late dinner time. It'll be we're able for eightish, you know we might be sooner. Yeah, six is eightish, we'll make it home. We figured if we pulled up seven on Friday, seven o'clock on Friday dinner time, much have a kind of lock route. Girls way across the table just outside of you, of the camp. This is no. You can't. No, I have a northern accent. You're hurting my heart here. Please I will hurt your heart and hurt your soul. Please say pecan, just. Pecan pie, pecon. It's wrong. You put's wrong. Can pecane and pecan. Per coon. Yeah. If you're just gonna be straight up southern, it's just pecan pie. I am not gonna be that southern, born and raised north of Dixie. But what happens if Jake Rachel ever can What happens if I convince you and Rachel move down towards us one day? I mean, at that point, you're gonna have to give you up snow. Then I will give off the snows. Louisiana once a fucking. This chuck wagging back nine inches of snow. I left an hour and forty minutes north. I could still see leaves. My child was angry, time. Pissed the entire time. Nine inches of snow. Do you want to know what I did? I fucking we wait I morning, but we are not going to go to work. Okay, But but in my defense, two things. Do you know how far you have to drive from where I live to find snow tires or salt trucks. Here. Listen, you can't. You can't even see doesn't even have it. You can't even buy a set of snow tars with the five one of miles of my nose. Not even close. We just shut the state down. We wait, let melts, we go back to work. Well, the only the only sat the state down is the thing where I go. Yip, I'm just going to go to work when we shut the state though. But again, you can, I promise. Listen, I have went to work hearing it underpasses hard and adventure. Yes, but. Well you got a teacher, so you have no, no, The teacher is the light poem. And I will teach you how to drive. I know how to drive in snow. It's all your coolios that don't. Well, for sure they don't. But I'll teach your daughter how to drive in the snow. I can teach her that. I'll have her drifting perfect lot. Listen, I went directly to the mall and I got the mobile just to drift in the parking lot in. The camry I was driving. That is the way that was fun. Drive in the north. Look you find an abandoned ass parking lot or mall that nobody's paying attention to, and you drive sideways as fast as possible until you go into the power of snow and disappear. It's fine, and they find you in spring. No, no, you hit that and it's actually kind of an ice wall, and you must off your right rear past side rear tire. You speak from experience, don't you. No, No, no, I like for my buddy Mike, do this in the rental sphere. Second second experience type yes. Type on the phone is when you have fun while you're doing it. Type two phones where it sucks it's funny. Talking about later is where your buddy pays all the bills and you had fun the entire time. That's fair. Yeah, I've been the butt of all of this. I mean too man at different times. So you guys get snow every couple of years, I mean, ever get snow. Will get snow sometimes two to three times a year, may not times, dick. Sometimes we'll get snow two to three times a day and it will stick joke, two to three times a day sometimes. Oh right, we're lucky to get snow. Like I said, there are days. Where we will have a little snow in the morning, and I'm full of snow in the afternoon. Between oh, and they would be on the air screaming and steal less. If you're elderly, you will die. It'd be bad. You wouldn't be able to find milk or bread for one hundred miles. All the milk and bread disappears from the southern groceries. There are no milk sandwiches to be had during You can't eat. Bread pudding without milk and bread. You can't. But and that is a critical point. You cannot have milk sandwiches. Or milk a snowstar. You could have sadness or milk sandwiches. So let's see if we can dovetail this into a soft landing, because we're like an hour and a half and I would like to shut this down, do some more drinking. We could do an excessive among drink. I'm up for that because I feel like it's I'm already want to get in. You can hop in. You want me together, we. Can just you can just sit here and we can hand her a microphone, y'all. I know those boards are routed. That could end. That worked, all right, here's my mic TESTI test mic tests. Stop testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing, testing. Okay, I think I think we're good now, Gillian, I have been threatened with a good time and with my wife's good time listening to it. You knew for sure. I mean it is. Her favorite podcast. Yes, it's coming back. It's coming back. Not quite sure when yet, but it is coming back, probably sometime this summer. We'll do a relaunch episode before fall, before I go back to work. Which could be in a month and a half. That's right. I will harass every week to shoot a deer at Christ's house. We'll see. Yeah, chrisas house, you can. Shoot a deer from the house. I've done that in the underwear, off the board. Honestly, Chris, not gonna lie. Awesome. I love that, Love that for you. I mean, no fencemen seeing your underwear. That might have just because somebody was telling me on toilet, my brother in law. So my god, Chris, you have to fix this. You have to shoot it off the tool box. It's like I can almost shoot it off the toilet in my house. You turn around, so that's well, as long as you've got a clear line of range. Demarcation. Shoot it over the true, don't put a whole over the That will make your daughter very sad. So do you want to tell the audience before we roll out, like, do you want to give me a hint as to why the show has been on hiatis or do we say that? Yeah? Sure, yeah, I think the first showback is going to be in better detail. But it's been on hiatus because of a couple of reasons. I've had some health issues. But before that even started, I have been having to become the power of attorney for my parents. My parents have their health has declined. There's been some mental health as far as I'm concerned, like for me, that needed to be taken care of. So there's been some therapy, there's been some you know, parents are in nursing homes. Now, there's been my physical health with my heart and so. Yeah, so it's been about a good two years. What it's been about two years since we've been off the air. I think, So it's been a hot minute. Yeah, this year would be two years in November, I believe is when my or January of next year will be two years. Hang on, I'll get it for you. There you go, two years. This next January where my dad had open heart surgery. So and that's when the snowballs started to go downhill. That was kind of when things started loading up on you and raising values got to the point where it was like it turned from being something fun and release and something to offload everything was going on into another task. Yes, it became a job. And I wasn't looking forward to using my Sunday mornings to host a podcast episode or even think about what I was going to talk about. And then I didn't want to even have to emotionally go there every week. Could give yourself time to process, right, Yeah, at that point, there was no time to process. There wasn't no. I think I've had a little bit more insight than the rest of the audience. I will say, my god, yeah, my god. Yeah, it's well, we joke and I think that it's I think eventually it'll happen. But maybe I'll be a New York Times bestselling author one day. We will. I do think a book needs to be written. Personally. I think Hyper needs to read the book because and hear me out, because it is a person that does not have the experience that you Gillian him or the outside experience that Phil has. It's a pseudo third party that knows all the people involved. Her reactions will be real. Yeah, but you see, I've tried really hard to shield her from a lot of the stuff, so I don't know if I want her to to that is. Very, very fast. But I. Still true as an audiobook fan because audio books are king. They they really are because you get, you get I think, more out of an audiobook than you have a physical It's it is, it's a TV show in your head while you're trying not to kill a family of five. A mini man that doesn't know audio use the German signal. But yeah, me, it's it's been a lot. It's been a lot on. It's been a lot on all three of us. Yeah, oh my gosh, Yes, we we got. We got to the point of the raising values where like we had to start choosing in our lives what we could offload to freaking up some mental emotional bandwidth. And as much as I hate to say, raising values was it, it really was. Like that was when I started podcasting ten ten years ago this August, by the way, so we gotta have a discussion about ten year anniversary well, and we're like this close to five hundred episodes, which also coming up this year. We do have to do that. But I'd always said, with matter of fact, like if it turns into another job, I don't think I want to do it anymore. It's fun. I love doing it, and that's too. That's when it started turning it raising Bay started turning into it was it was another job for Gillian, but it was also I I mean, I don't want to say point of contention, but it was turning into a thing with me and her where it was like, this is your show. You kind of have to tell me, like what you want to talk about. And there were there were weekends where she was so emotionally spent. I made the topic. I did the show notes. I literally like spoon fetted to her just to get her over the finish line. But that wasn't it. Wasn't fair to her. No, it wasn't. It's definitely not. It wasn't good for the show. But you know, I have to sing, you did a very excellent job. Thank you, because as a third already observer that was not involved in that show, I could not tell me. So you brought the energy every. Time, there's a lot of masking, and you know. What, sometimes we need that as an individual. There are days where I flat out I feel like going to bed instead of doing matter of facts, I do because I've had a full day of work, stressful as hell. The last three weeks I've been dealing with in times, I've been trying to not have an intern slice his finger off in the vands off in a bridgeport in a lathe. Oh sweet Christ, this one this year is good. Last year we had a gal she say her level of effort, her physical ability to not die in the shop. Oh my god, it was close. It was close. We could not tell you did fantastic. Well, I don't think it's going to it's probably not going to be the same format it's gonna be, it's gonna look a little different. Rent and it made. It's probably not going to be every weekend, but coming back for sure. Stewart made us new intro music. He did. Yes, he presented it with us to us this weekender. Grandpa used, AI, Well. Okay, well, let's be completely honest. Tell the story. Grandpa actually has a friend that is right song. So he wrote the lyrics and then they put the lyrics into a I and the songs came out. They came out pretty cool, come out pretty cool. That's fantastic. So yeah, so we have new. Intro music Stacey and be yep. Yeah, that's. That's what's going on with raising values And yeah, I don't have a date yet, but we'll get there. I gotta get this household first. I got to make sure my there's a lot that still has to be done. But there's a light at the end of the tunnel as least as far as my parents are concerned. And you know, therapy. I go to therapy every week. Yeah, well you have to. You have to take care of yourself. Yes, you do more. You can satisfy all of our needs to be amused at. Work, right right, But it's like, yeah, look, there's only so many radio stations Chris can listen to. Yes, well, I have a whole lot to talk about. Every time I told Phil this. Every time I come out of therapy, I write down what I talked about in therapy. So it's going to go into more than just the last two years because now I'm emotionally, I'm getting more emotionally at peace at my childhood and what happened during my childhood, and so we're going to catch up you. At about age and I met. Yeah, that's when I can kind of start feeding in some of the details that you might have forgotten along the way. Like you and I have had this conversation about like you'll start accounting something that happened, and then I just start beating in all the things. You overlooked forget about from the trust. Yeah, well, yeah, because two completely different views. Well, and trauma recesses memory, and there's a lot of times, even in the last two years where things have happened and Phil will recount it and I'm like, oh my god, I forgot that. I forgot that my mother tried to run me over last year. Having a husband, he is to carry part of the burden. That's true. He carries more than part. For my wife, she has to carry a part of the burden for me. That is what a marriage is about. It's a partnership to carry the total burden. We've also noticed that having an autistic husband that's really good at Yeah, that's coming hand if you because she'll recount something, just something and be like, oh, yeah, that's kind of like this thing that had that that person did like three years ago and three years ago, seven years ago, five years ago. Yeah, I'm just like, there's a reason machine. Yeah, no, and it is probably because of the autism I regard my mind. My mind is like an old nineteen eighties Linux machine that's just just barely chugging along, and then every once in a while the processor overclocks itself to three thousand percent and does supercomputers. What you're saying is you needed to print every incidence of this object, and it prints every incidence of this object all thirty seven pages. Yeah, with one of these days, we actually need to get Eddie back on the show. Yes, we need to get Eddie on Raising Values to talk about neurodivergence as a whole topic. We need to get. Eddie on MF to talk about related to prepping. My Christ, every single person I have met that is a a prepper got a little tim tickletism or ADHD or a hell of a lot of both, health, a lot of both does tend to happen. Look, and my attention is not deficient in very specific circumstances, then look the number of neurotypical preppers I've met, very long, very few very few, and usually the people that have experienced a severe vergency at least twice she takes hitting it, hitting them in the head twice. Well, it is ten o'clock at night. I guess we'll go ahead and cook this one off. This has been the fifth of the day. I thought we missed one, the fifth, Yeah, the fifth. Matter of facts, summer camp. I always forget before we do this, how many camps to count? How many campers we have? This year we had fifteen fifteen? Yeah this time? Yeah, God, I mean, you know, stay away from the FedEx trucks and you'll be all right, that's true. Do not be fed trucks backing up. You don't you know, listen, you don't know. It's a federal insurance policy. Even better, Oh god, that's a problem. Oh well that that is nice. But yeah, fifteen fifteen campers, four or five days of fun, depending on wheneby got in and went out. Jesus only knows where we'll be next year, but we'll we'll figure it out. We are going to have discussion time as soon as we wrap, and we will figure something out. And I would post it on Patreon so that the patrons in all selfishness. I don't know if I've been picked up, but in all selfishness, I need y'all to have it. And on the north Shore, because that was really no, no, that was all about yes, his neck of the woods. Yes, because that's not bad for me, because I got a halfway stop at my mother's and then the rest. So good, good, Well, we got to keep your mother in happy. Well, Gillian and I have discussed doing this in our neck of the woods. There's there's a state park a mile and a half from our house. Cabins. Phil really not drive down that far. I will, I mean always. There's a Civil War Ironclad about an hour and a half from there as well, drive down that far either way. Even though I absolutely do not want to go to New Orleans, the d D Museum is worth going. Yes, it's expensive, but I so want to go, and if y'all go, I'll go. The d D Museum is one hundred percent I don't I don't know. We'll have discussion here in a minute, and like see what the group consensus is a serious discussion. I would have no problem. I think, oh, yes, that's just not gonna you're. Gonna be You're gonna be the sober mom. Mom. Mom is gonna keep us. I think four decisions. Yeah, all right, well matter fakes going out the door, Phil Nick, Brian, Chris, Gillian. Gillian chose the crew in the background that you can probably have a hard time with the audio. Yeah, matter of fact. Yeah, everybody give away. Everybody give away, give away to the YouTube's. We got a bunch of people up in here. They got really quiet because suddenly we could see their voices. He waited until I got well lubricated before he stuck me over here. Look, Chris, we gotta get you motivated and lubricated. Motivated, lubricated. Okay, I'm still gonna make the pack of cigarettes with the the. We need to have. All right, well, we'll go and pump this one out the door. There's pecan pie in sweets and booze that I need to help myself too. And I apologize for the audio quality. You get what you get when it's when it's outside of the city, outside of a cabin in the middle of the woods. Yeah, it's kind of like that, and my neighbors are kind of sketchy. Yeah. Oops, But I will just say this much. If you didn't make it out to this one and you are a patron, then hopefully next year you'll be able to make it out if you're not a patron. This is one of the few perks you get. Are then supporting sociopathy and bad financial decisions. Is you get to the financial decisions and talking to Phil into a twelve gauge. Yes, but at this point I have the night vision and the twelve gauge three, So shit, I need to buy. The three thirty eight lapoola. No, I am buying no three thirty lapoola until we get him night vision? What great a night vision? Anything even anything but bringing cheap Chinese digital was gonna run your two and a half stacks. Yeah, that's fair. And you and I both know that you got to buy the mount and the light, and then the laser and the light. Have an old school helmet I have. He's already got a helmetolo. Okay, he's already got. An a sugar Daddy trump box. Pay for the helmet, cuts with the mount, with the random mountain. Have to buy all the mounts. I know that's expensive. So you got all So you got all the stuff. Why haven't you got a night vision yet? Because I'm trying to pay for a garage so I can build all kinds of stupid ship. But you're still. When I am fighting with the goddamn county. Save it for next episode. My god, I gotta talk to another lawyer, a third lawyer. Oh god, all right, matter of facts. Going out the door. Good night to everybody. Goodbye, stay out of trouble, get in trouble you the week, Bye. Remove her bad. I've never heard of just gone