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Spokane Valley could become a sanctuary city. A different Columan, Caleb Collier says that this I'm. Proposing that the city of Spokane Valley issue a proclamation stating that our city is a second Ammae sanctuary. Welcome to the fire. Today on Church and State what you can do about it with Colonel Rob Manus. Hello Christian Patriots, and welcome to Church and State, where we drive morality and religion over tolerance and apathy. And I'm your host, Caleb Callier, once again, your favorite for a right shock jock and the show that talks about politics and religion. Jesus Christ is our referee, so it's always nice and clean. Real quick points you to the website Church and State dot Media. Fill out this form for us get our newsletter. Bypass all the censorship, we can send you the shows directly. And also I personally call every single person who fills this out, so if you want to talk to me, there's your chance. Also check out the most recent episodes. 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Hey, Cale, thanks for having me on. I appreciate it and love the name of the show. Well, thank you very much, sir. Yeah, we got to get the church more involved and stop allowing the state to dictate what's going on in the church. Absolutely right, absolutely right. So your book What You Can Do About It? I love this premise and I love that in the book you're talking about the fact that the left, well they just do better than we do as far as organizing getting their base to get out there and actually make changes. Now, obviously these are changes that we don't want to see in the United States. But the conservatives that commentators, we do a lot of rage bait, you know, we get people kind of angry about stuff, but there's no follow through. Yeah, exactly right, you know. And that's why I wrote the book. I came into the political arena after I retired. I was only out the Air Force two years and I realized and I ran for US Senator as a Republican. I've been a Republican my whole life, and when I saw how the establishment consultants were, they tried to limit me from going to college campuses. And this was at a time when Charlie Kirk was still I think he was nineteen years old, and I found out about him and I held him up as an example. I'm like, look, this guy is going to college campuses and he is a He is more conservative than most of the Republicans in office today, and he speaks my language. Because we were very much aligned and still are on the ideas of what we think this country is and ought to be going forward, and the Republicans were like those, sir, they're not going to talk to you. And by the way, you don't know how to talk to people that are under the age of twenty five. And I looked them in the eye, and I had just left command of three thousand people, and over eighty five percent of those people were between the ages of seventeen and twenty three. I said, look, but I know exactly how to talk to these people. I mean, I was paid, not until too long ago, to inspire them to go die for their country if they needed to, if we needed them to, you know, so I understand these folks, and I understand what they not just want to hear, but how they hear and what they're listening to and those kinds of things. And my experience went from there. I was able to find people like Andy Sarabian is one. Andy has worked for me a couple of times. But Andy found me through Tea Party Express and he Andy Sarabian if you don't know who he is. He he worked in trump war room. After he left Mike's US Senate campaign and my second one in twenty sixteen, he went to Trump's war room and helped Steve Bannon in a war Room. Eventually he and Steve became special asstance to the President that first term, but then he worked for and still does work for. I believe Jade Vance on the political side, not as the VP art and he's just a great American Armenian guy that understands. He introduced me to the term zeitgeist and he said, sir, you're on the zeitgeist. And I'm like, what the heck is that? And he explained it to me that the men and women of America in their twenties, they're expectant of some things. Won to get the border security and immigration challenge under control, because it was even in twenty thirteen when we started my first Senate campaign, it was out of control already. Okay. That was my number one plank. Number two two was stop the endless war policy, stop the endless war policy. And number three was of my top three was achieve energy independence. We have enough energy in this country to be independent and be exporters of energy and not have to worry about places like the straight of horror moves. Okay, those were the big three things. And he said, you are on what the young American people wanted and what we found out was that the older American people were on the same as like Ghost Caleb. It was amazing. Uh. And you know, some people called me a libertarian Republican. Uh. I don't know that I agree with that. Here's what I do agree with. Though America was founded on and because of individual liberty and what was discovered through the Enlightenment and authors like Locke and those kind of folks that human being have inherent in natural rights. And that's what I believe in. You know, I'm so pleased to see the two hundred and fiftieth celebration of the Declaration of Independence and to get it into the minds of this generation of Americans, from the kids, to the young adults to even some of the older adults as a forefront the topic point, because it's critically important that our people understand what in that document and that it still applies today. And if we don't insist that it applies today and has applied to the Constitution that was created by many of the same people that wrote that document, but it was recreated from that document. If we don't have an understanding of it, then the coming generations will lose the Republic of the United States. More than We've even already lost a lot of it now. And there's no denying. I'm not going to I don't live in a behind rose colored glasses. There's no denying We've lost large parts of our republic because of ill advised changes we made to the constitution, like the federal income tax and changing away US senators are elected away from state legislators to having them voted for those changes. While they may have been sold as good, I'm going to make you more prosperous, have devastated the country and resulted in what you see today, with a bureaucracy that is so vast and so powerful that the president the one position in the constitution that is that is elected by all the states, all the state cannot control is bureaucracy. And I just wrote an article about it. And that's part of what this book is about, you know, because even as you and I sit here right now, there's a young American out there that's thinking, man, I can't afford to buy a house. I went to college and now I am two hundred and fifty thousand dollars in debt, and I got this dog on feminist critical theory degree that I was talked into by my girlfriend and I'm doing I'm going to be doing perpetual uber eats and lift driving and that kind of stuff. And they don't think and there's not a darn thing I can do about it. Oh, that's wrong, that is right, that is wrong. Matter of fact, the title of the book is is not the first title I came up with. The first title I came up with was the question that I get asked as whether it's being at a commander's call with my troops or in a Savilian town hall as a politician trying to run for office, or as a person that is elected. I'm in a county elected level seat a couple of term. Uh, but what's the question they asked when they when they see an issue or we're talking about an issue that's got everybody energized. Every American, and I don't mean a person that's born here. I mean people that are either born here or come here and become American citizens because they buy into the Declaration of Independence ideas. Okay, that's it, That's what that means to be an American. I call them Americanists that practice Americanism in the book, and I picked that term up from a good friend of mine who passed away a couple of years ago, suddenly named Dennis Haw who was also an Air Force officer at one point. But I put that in the book because every American asked this question when we're talking about an issue that's got everybody energized or angry, Well, what can I do about it? It's in our DNA, you know, in the place you know we talked for the show. I was born to come a Washington but my mom and daddy are from West Tennessee, and they both come from twelve kid families. One was on the farming side, that was on the kind of an entrepreneurial side. He was also a deputy sheriff to have some interesting stories that my granny used to tell us. But there were twelve kids and so my aunts and uncles. My dad was in the Air Force, but he made sure he took us back. You get thirty days to leave in the military, and he would take us back to Tennessee twice a year, once at Christmas time and once in the summertime for two week periods, and our aunts and uncles would take us into their homes and we'd say I had three brothers. So there's four of us little guys running around being monstered. Played a lot of cowboys in Indians and g I Joe, that kind of good American things, you know. Davy Crockett And I mentioned David Crockett in the book because he was a congressman from West Tennessee and incredible story there. When I was about six, my uncle Buddy, who was my dad's youngest brother, youngest living brother. He's also a high school a teacher and coach, public high school teacher and football and baseball and basketball coach. They didn't have kids at the time, so they always took me in to their house and I stayed with them almost the entire time. But he would take me around, and I tell this story in the book. He would take me around to places and just talk from the perspective of a kid that grew up in West Tennessee on a cotton farm picking cotton for his daddy and hunting, you know, I mean my grandpa's farmhouse. They had a back room that they built onto It's just a big room that opened out into the back of the house that you could see the corn crib and the pig, the hog pen, and all that stuff right out the back door. But all of us kids stayed there and slept on the floor when we would go home, and there were like fifteen or twenty of us at any given time. But there was a rifle hanging above the door, and it was always loaded. It was a pump twenty two rifle had a barrel magazine or a magazine in the butt of the rifle that you loaded vertically anyway. And my grandfather taught us, and my uncles and aunts always taught us. I mean, you're from the background of the United States of America that started in the East and migrated to the west in the South. So we grew up essentially still as frontier kids, even in the nineteen sixties, being taught by these people and their parents that were frontier kids. So my uncle told me the story about Crockett. You know, Crockett had been kicked out of Congress twice because he disagreed with the President Andrew Jackson, who's another guy that I write about in the book a little bit, you know, because he disagreed with the president on the force movement of the Cherokee over the trailer tiers out to the west and I probably would have disagreed with that too. Uh. You know, but the second time they did it, Crockett went to the courthouse uh square uh just before he went to Texas uh and became a hero in the Alamo, and he got all of the people that voted him out office a second time together. He said, y'all, y'all can all go to hell. I'm going to Texas. But the reason why that story is important is because it matches the question uh and and and and supports what my premise that this is in America, it's dna that when we get mad about something or get excited about an issue, we ask ourselves the question first, what can I do about it? And I think we've lost a little bit about that of that. Uh. And I saw that when I came into the political arena, and I spent several years thinking about this book because the people were bugging me to write a biography, and I didn't want to really write a biography. I wanted to I wanted to write a book that people could actually use and pass around. Uh and they get something out of it, But just. Get into the book, sir, because you know, I so agree with you with your take on what we see in currently in America. Regardless of the factions, there's people that are looking for something different. They're kind of tired of the establishment, both on the left and the right. And as an example, I can point to the rise of the so called Democratic Socialists of America. They were having a lot of victories. We just had primaries where we saw victories with these guys. Obviously on the left, they're getting tired of the establishment democrat side. Now they're looking to socialism as the cure. It is not. You and I would both agree this is not going to go well for America. It's the suicide bill, actually. It really is. But on the right there's a lot of disillusionment as well. And I talk to a lot of people because I'm doing the show five days a week that there's a lot of people that are looking and they thought Trump was this outsider that was going to bring about real change in any He talked about things like getting us out of these endless wars, which you have brought up as was one of your campaign platforms. And here we see ourselves once again bombing the crowd out of Iran, you know, for potentially nuclear weapons. But you know, I myself, I don't suffer from short term memory loss. I remember weapons of mass destruction. I remember all these lies that were told to us to get into all these different foreign countries, and I'm. Just not about it. So there's a lot of frustration here on both sides. What can we do about it? I don't have short term memory loss either. That's an interesting question on this current or against Iran. Look, I supported the President. I didn't support him in twenty sixteen. Initially I was a Ted Cruz guy, to the point where I gave Ted Kruz my statewide network, contact all my activists that I had gotten two hundred and ten thousand plus votes with in twenty fourteen across state of Louisiana, and keep him mind on an Air Force guy that wasn't born in Louisiana two years after he retired, and we were able to do that. That's pretty incredible and it got the Republican bablishment's attention. But since his cruise dropped out, I had been looking at Trump and everything, and he was on the same platform that I was on. And that's why in August of that year, when we decided that Andy was going to leave our campaign. The guy that was my strategy consultant, my strategic guy was connected to the Trump somehow. He called him and said, hey, this guy, you should call him, and he got picked up in their war room because when we looked at Trump's positions, essentially I had run on that in twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, and then again in sixteen, in fifteen, in sixteen, but so Andy fit right into that. I mentioned Bannon was there too and got picked up on there, and they all fit in the same pold. So let's come up to today. And here's why I said I don't have memory lost either. Look, I was seventeen in nineteen seventy nine when I first put on the uniform and the Iranians declared war on us. That's where I'm coming from that this is a war that's been going on forty seven years, and I don't have access to classified information. I was not real enthusiastic about getting into this but at the president. But I have been in nuclear operations and the Pentagon on the Joint Staff until you know, from ninety nine to two thousand and two. So I've seen the facts that I can't really talk about specifics of but I've seen enough facts to know that if the President had the information he said he had, then it's based on solid intelligence evidence. And I'm willing to give him the grace because I don't see him as starting an endless war. I see him, just like with the Ukraine, He's trying to end an endless war that the neo cons really got us into. If you go back and look at the history of how that I Tola got into power in the first place, the neo cons got us into this stuff. And I see this president as still trying to live by his campaign promises, which is no new endless wars, no endless war policy. I have done a lot of reading about the new National Defense strategy that came out, and it drives away from endless war policy and goes back to the deterrence policy that President Reagan was able to make so successful in the nineteen eighties that resulted in the fall of the Soviet Union really because of those policies. And I don't disagree with those because leading I was in the Pentagon of nine to eleven. I talked about that in the book. My after action report from that day is in the book as an appendix. This policy of endless warfare beyond our initial response which I totally agreed with against the Taliban and al Qaeda, and to try to stay in Afghanistan and go into Iraq and all that. Those policies are the ones that this president ran against. I've ran against it, and I support him in that regard, and I'm willing to give him a little bit of grace because my background and what I do know about the facts on the rich geranium, they desire to build nuclear weapons, those kind of things inside the government of that and I know how I know how viciously deadly the people that run that country are, and I think that's what the President's running into with this. He's trying to give him a break and not destroy the entire infrastructure. So the ninety million Iranians that don't want to kill us, all the population have something to start with. And because of they're the way they are, the IRGC, which is who really runs the country, not the Molas. The Molles don't run the country. It's the IERGC that's running it have always been that way. Those people. Unfortunately, the president is learning the lessons that a lot of us already know, especially in the profession of arms against these people. Look, I did my first war planning against Iranian the Iranians as a captain here Force, and retired as a colonel, So a long time ago we've been studying that problem set and so I'm willing to give him the grace on that, especially since he is trying to get them to the table and not completely destroy the country. But at some point, I'm also a military guy, and I'm an Air Force officer, as you mentioned, and I was a bomber squadron commander and came up in Strategic Air Command. It was one of the first colonel's the Air Force Club to Strike Command. The Sategic Command we recreated a few years ago before I retired, And I understand what it will take if we have to completely remove the ability of the IRGC to attack their neighbors, attack commercial shipping and those kind of things. And while I would like to see the President go ahead and go full bore and get this over with, I do appreciate his willingness to try to get him to the table to come to some type of negotiated agreement because it takes really, really strength, a lot of strength and courage to be able to do that when you know, I know that his military advisors are telling him, hey, sir, we really should finish the entire target list and then try this. But he doesn't want to destroy all the infrastructure on behalf of the Iranian people either, So he's in a tough spot. And unfortunately, that's why I'm opposed to us for fair is that war has a life of its own. Once you pull the trigger and you enter it in the way that this was done, at the level that it was done, it gets a life of its own. So I ask you another question that I'm observing in politics currently, and it really kind of centers around more of the younger generations. For a very long time in America's policy, foreign policy has always been to support the nation of Israel. As of late, especially with the younger people, there's a considerable pushback against that and they do see it as part of this endless war campaign that oftentimes Israel will use us their words, you know, ISRAELI will use us to be that hammer. You know, you pick on us, Well, we got these guys behind us, and we'll get involved here. And that may kind of like ugly terms there, but that you know, just kind of boiling it down to the nuts and bolts there. Do you see this as as more you know, disillusionment with the with the younger generations within the conservative movement, with the nation of Israel, or you see this as a as a. Danger or risk for a foreign policy. Well, there's a fallacy in that argument that Israeli government shows its enemy is hey, look at the big guy behind me. Because I have seen time and time again the Israelis make decisions to go into combat on their own behalf, in their own bidol national interests, where the United States was not involved militarily, other than to deliver the things that they purchased from us, you know, from a logistics perspective. Uh. And we've seen that over the years. So so the fallacy in that argument that the Israeli's either always say, you know, these guys are behind us, you better do what we say, or that they're pushing Donald Trump around. It's the word I would use is it's just really a little bit ridiculous. But here's one of the things that is going on though, Caleb, with this issue with issues like the data centers and those kind of things. I'm on a group called the Committee on the present danger China that was stood back up. Originally it was called the Committee on the President Danger Soviet Union, and the people in that group advised President Reagan in his run up to ending the Cold War, and actually some of them served in his administration. And I got asked to join this group because China has essentially declared unrestricted warfare on the United States, and their version of unrestricted warfare is primarily non kinetic, you know, surveillance, undercover operations, those kind of things, and influence operation quote I call it influence operator or propaganda operation, and those kind of things. And one of the things that we have found and talked about over the last ten years, especially since we were for seven years since we were recreated, is the Chinese information operations and the infiltration of the United States of America. You may have heard the number six hundred thousand Chinese students in our universities. Well that's low. That's low. That's a cap that the President came up with against our group's advice. I guarantee you there's a memo in writing from US that says there should be no Chinese students because every Chinese student in this country is the People's Liberation Army or Chinese Communist Party asset, and they have influence over the younger age primarily because of their presence on these universities. That is a lot of folks. And then you combine that with the extreme left leaning nearly I would call them mostly Marxists, left leaning philosophies of most of the academic of academia in this country, and it sets the table for a very effective information operation, influence campaign and some of the the I believe, some of the more I don't want to call them extreme, but the more aggressive beliefs are coming out of that. We have other intermies too. The Russians are pretty good on the internet side, but they're distracted right now. And let me pause you real quick there, colonel. We hit that hard break here, and so for the audience, we're gonna come back. We're going to do another fifteen minutes. Fifteen minutes with our guest. Hey, this is Caleb Collier with Church and State. I'm here to tell you about Hunters Blend coffee. I got to tell you, I absolutely love this stuff. I'm all about the dark roast Hunters Blend coffee black powder. Doesn't that just sound like deliciousness and rebellion. 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We're talking with Colonel Rob Amanus and Manus sorry, and we're talking about when we left off, he was talking about Russia here specifically and how they're very good with especially with their Internet capabilities that are tech, but there's a lot. Of threats obviously with China. With Russia. We're also talking about Israel and if foreign policy, the mindset for the youth in particular is starting to change there. But please pick it back up sir. Yeah, Yeah, So I was just going to roll in Russia and the fact that we are. We are in kinetic operations, combat operations at a level that hasn't been seen since World War Two, really against the Iranians, Russia, and China or their allies. So just like we are. I'm just going to say it out loud. Look, the Ukrainians wouldn't be doing anything without United States military and intelligence support and our defense industrial base and those kind of things. So we know we have provided them intelligence information, targeting information. So it's a valid assumption even without access to classified information. It's a valid position that the Russians and the Chinese are helping or helping the Russians or the Iranians. So I only say that to just say there's a lot going on. And I was going to go into the data center thing just for a second, because I've been worried about data centers for a very very long time long and a lot of other people have too, long before this most recent bump up and information, you know, and that bump up in information and bump up and people getting angry about it. I think there's probably influence and propaganda operations from our adversaries linked to some of that too. That's how it works. They do it, they do it over time, duanced. But the first massive data center that I do about that was being built that I that I'm still upset about, was back you remember, back when there's the big debate in Washington was about they are the metadata from your cell phone is all going to be collected? Well that data center. Guess where it's at. It's in Utah. It's not in Utah. And the reason why nobody got upset about it is because the issues that they're seeing now with all these new ones that are being built. And believe me, there are a lot of data center around that people aren't aware of in their communities, in their towns out in the countryside that already your. Cell phone is a data center. Oh, we haven't gotten to that yet. But anyway, the reason it didn't get anybody's attention, even though I'm out there as a as a as a person that believes in liberty in this declaration we're celebrating this year, in the Constitution behind it, in the Fourth Amendment, for goodness sake, I'm out there going We're building a data center center that's sponsored by the US government. That's going to be operated by the US government, and it's one big violation of the Fourth Amendment. Uh, that's all it is. You remember they kept saying, well, it's just metadata. They're not going to be able to identify you. That was was. It is always blowy, and it takes a lot of power, it takes water and those kinds of things. But nobody in the you know, out in the hinterlands out here that's upset. Now. I couldn't get anybody to like latch onto that in my discussions. I talked about it in my political campaigns because I was concerned about it, but it really didn't fire anybody up. And I'm like, wow, guys, So I'm you know, in a sense, I'm glad to see people are fired up, but I don't want to make sure they're fired up about the right things. You know, there are ways that and go back to the title of my book, what you can do about it? You know, the data centers are already here, number one, number two, the larger ones that are now being built. Uh, I won't say they're inevitable, but somebody's probably going to build them until Musk figures out how to put these things in orbit and then we don't have to worry about it anymore, which I believe he will do every time he said he was going to do something, Eventually he gets gets it done. But my point is water power and the regulatory aspects of that. And I'm not a regulation guy, but but sometimes, like with artificial intelligence, this kind of stuff, the people have to have their say, and the only way to do that is to start at the local and state level through local and state governments and interacting with the subine corporations that want to do this, and the government that needs to be involved, and they need to be listening to the people that live and own and work on the ground that they're talking about. And that's what that's what I'm concerned about, is that there's a push to not allow local and state regulation of these data centers or of artificial intelligence, those two things. And I think, like here in our state of Mississippi, there is state level guidance and local level guidance going on, but still people are upset. But what they really ought to be upset is the violation of their Fourth Amendment rights if the government's involved in that, and in the regulatory part of it. We should be looking at legislation that state level that says no, there will be no government involvement in these data centers. You'll have to have a warrant to get any data. Yeah, I would. I agree with that. That's the part. That's the part that people ought to be up in arms about. It might that's just my opinion, more than the water, the power, but those are very important things that should be handled. It shouldn't even be a debate Caleb from the government folks that I see in corporate folks pushing back on the people that want this discussion to happen and want their say in this, because it's wrong to force something on a community that especially if they've come together and decided they don't want it. So America is a big place, man, Go find it somewhere else. If you've got a community that's telling you we don't want it here, we need to be not just we, not just me. But but those people need to be listened to because this is America and this book is written for them. They're doing exactly what I want them to do, which is do something about it at the local, lowest level possible, and that'll have national impact. Yeah, and you're starting to see that communities are coming together in opposition to these these data centers. You know, out where I'm at in Spokane, Washington, they want to put one of these large data centers here and there's been a massive amount of opposition. I've been a part of it to push back against this, and we did get a one year moratorium on that from from our city council. But man, they keep pushing, they keep pushing. I'm actually very encouraged by the amount of people with their opposition to the flock. Cameras and how they're putting so much. Pressure on the local jurisdictions, the local government, and a lot of them are starting to listen and they're pulling these things down. We have individual citizens that are engaging in activities that I won't promote on this show as far as the flock cameras go. Enough said there. Yeah, but yeah, I mean there is opposition to this, and there should be because we should not be living in a surveillance state. Yeah, exactly right. Uh. You know, uh, show me, show me what those things can do that you think they are going to actually do, and I will show you how wrong you are. Uh. And the and the harm that they're going to do. Primarily, I just found out I had a had a we had a gathering with some friends of ours and one of my friend's husband is really into this kind of stuff, and the flock camera then came up and he pulled up a website. Uh, it's called dflock dot org. I think that he said, Hey, Rob, you have a flock camera right down the street that I wasn't aware of. Uh. So you know, we're going to talk about that at the local level. Uh. And Uh, I'm going to go out and talk to folks. I'm sure there's already a group organized, and I'm going to go talk to him and see what's going on and see what they know. And then we're going to we'll talk to the government, because I don't remember voting on anything that would allow flock cameras to be set up wherever the government wants them to be to monitor, or any rules on what they monitor or can monitor or should. Yeah, you're absolutely right. So so returning back to your book and that premise, this is a great example of something that you can do. And you know, I have talked about this on the show quite a lot. Encouraging people to really operate at that local level because we tend to keep our eyes on what's going on at the federal level. Well, we're not going to be all that effective. All right, Yes we can do some things, but at that local level, this is where you're really going to be able to band with like minded individuals and bring about real positive change for your community. Oh, you're absolutely right. You know. I go back to the Crockett example because that's where I'm from and one of the things that formed me. One of the ideas that formed me is that we wouldn't have a republic Texas had he not said, what can I feel about it? After after losing dramatically and overwhelmingly many times in his life, Uh, he saw he came up and became aware of a problem out in Texas and got his friends together that were like minded and said we're gonna go help do something about this. I mean that is Uh that that is the reason why America still exists today is because we have people willing to do that. Uh. And thanks for pointing out about the federal level. Look, you know that that makes all the news. But man, Caleb, the war, Uh, the way and the way to achieve victory. It's at the state and local legislature and government levels. It's not at the federal The federal government uh is uh. It's not uncontrollable totally, uh, but but it's a it's a problem set all its own that we elect people to try to go up there and deal with. And at the local level, you better darn't sure be questioning your candidates, whether they're incumbents or not, especially on the Republican side, on what they're actually going to do when they get up there to dismantle this thing. Because if we don't dismantle that, it doesn't matter what the parchments say, it's going to continue to spiral out of control. And it is out of control. I just published an article last week in The Daily Caller about James o'keef's hit, a surveillance piece on the career federal employee that said, Hey, we're still going to be here in Trump leeds, We're just going to reverse everything. Well, that's not an aberration. Those resistors are in the federal bureaucracy at all levels, and the last institution they took over an infiltrator was the Department of War Department of Defense if you want to stick with that, and that's my department, that's my institution, and I have a respond possibility to fix when I see it. That's why I got the article published. But I have personal experience that says that O'Keefe's accurate and that this is not a one off. And we've got to address that as the American people, because the American people don't support that, and that type of person working in the civil service is here's what it is. They are not obeying the will of the American people. Look, Joe Biden was able to get the oath of office to the presidency done. And if I was working in the federal government and tried to be a resistor, I would be wrong because I would be obstructing the Constitution of the United States for doing that. Now, trying to give the right advice, you know, and present the right argument, that's if it was part of my job, that absolutely I should do. But to purposely obstruct the implementation of the guy's policies if they're lawful, if they're not lawful, to bring it up, highlight it, and resign if necessary, very loudly, to try to stop it. Those are all valid things. But to stay in the job and resist, uh just because you don't like the policies of the guy or the name of the guy that's the president the United States. That's obstructing the will of the American people and the constitution itself. And they all take an oath to that, just like military people do. Uh So, But that's a that's and I pointed out the Department of War for a reason. That's the last institution that Marxis take over before they're able to take the entireation when they take a nation, it's that institution. And so it's where it's a challenge that's got to be fit. We've got to address it for sure at that point. That's what we're so I want to bring up your website. We're winding down towards the end of the show here and Crys will bring that up for the audience. But it's a pretty easy Robminas dot com. You can see the website. It's a fantastic website. There's a lot of information on here, a lot of articles, a lot of different interviews that you've done. But you know, just just you know, a minute long here tell people why they should go to the website and start listening to your show. Tarcu, did we give it? Yeah, sorry, I was just I was just asking you to tell people why they should go to your website. Hell a little freeze frame there. You can go to robmains dot com. For a couple of reasons. We are publishing a lot on the defense issue right now because I think the American people need to have a place that's outside of the corporate media to go and look at things. And you can email me if you have a question about an article. I didn't write them all. We're publishing from some defense websites because we want the American people to have a site they can go to and if they have a question, you can email me through that site and I do answer those emails. Also go there to catch all of my shows. Catch it a lot. There's a live web page, but if you can't catch it live, we do a post production version and try to get that posted within twenty four hours. Did a great show this week? You're showing Joshua Isaac, who helped me write my book and wrote the forward for my book. By the way, he's a He and Jack Pistovic are New York Times bestselling authors. But we are of like mind, and we did the show on the Haitian invasion of Ohio to tell the truth about what really is happening there, because you're being lied to. That's the main reason is you think you're being lied to. This is a site that has defense information. Its I cover from culture, politics, defense, foreign policy, you know, the intelligence agencies, those kind of things on the site. Articles that I get published in other publications I try to get posted on this site for print article purposes and those kind of things. Your scrolling past that Pete Hegseth picture. That article has almost eight hundred thousand views on X by the way, which is the largest one I think, article wise, that I've ever had on X. So if you want to know what a career military officer that's commanded several times that was in combat en piece thinks about things like that, If I wrote an article on there, That's what I'm thinking about. Uh. And we need more people to understand, uh military officers, especially senior ones, and what they're thinking about not just national security, but also the culture of the political environment. Uh, you know, those kinds of things. Because the corporate media, the vaunted free press we are the free press now, and I never thought I'd be saying that in a serious nature, but we are. So. I have guys like the CEO of CDM press El Todd Wood on there. He's a retired Air Force Todd. I have him on regularly, especially on Monday's Monday is More War Monday on my show, to talk about not just what's going on in the combat operations, and we try to bring people on to tell the truth, but also what what we think should be happening or shouldn't be happening. And that's why I have guys like Todd huh. Those well, where you can buy the book. There, you can buy the book and there's there's a bonus chapter page for free. You just sign up and you can download the bonus chapter. The bonus chapter is important because it talks about canceling your own cancelation because, as you know, when you're in this arena, whether it's political, public, or whatever, there are people out there, especially those that have power right now, that want to maintain the status quo and their power they're going to try to cancel you. Absolutely. Yeah, well we were actually gone a little bit over, but that's all right. I want people to go buy the book what you can do about it? You can find that at Robmynis dot com. Go check out the website. Ladies and gentlemen, Colonel, it's been a pleasure having on the show. I'm going to go ahead and close this out. If you hold on one more minute post production to sayah, goodbyes, I'd appreciate it. But again, thank you for your work and for joining us on Church and State. Thank you, sir. Absolutely all right. Ladies and gentlemen, there you go. A fantastic perspective one that. I am definitely for. 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