CAS274 - The Bearded Patriot with Billy Painter - Church and State

Spokane Valley could become a sanctuary city of a different kind. Councilman Caleb Collier says that this proposal. I'm proposing that the city of Spokane Valley issue a proclamation stating that our city is a Second Amendment sanctuary. Welcome to the fire. Welcome to the fire. Hello, Christian Patriots. Welcome to the Caleb Collier Show, and I am not Caleb Collier. It is brought to you still by Church and State Media. We are in the process of taking care of the ship here, and I'm steering this bad boy Haber I want. Chris, our technician, is about the only thing that's the same. Caleb is out. He has an insane case of the man flu. Caleb, in his defense, does not get sick very often. He is presently in this condition. Chris, if you want to show, this is how poor little will be Caleb is feeling. So, dude, I do have to say it's an honor to come and do a couple shows. You get one vacation. Hurry up. Get better. Get better soon. We miss you. We love you. Kisses and hugs. All right. Enough about that. Hey, Church and State Media, our website, please check it out. We want to encourage you, those of you who are seeing this right now through the technology of NRB TV, we do have a website. Please check it out. It is a reality that marketing, internets, the interwebs, our studio. Chris, please give a donation. This is our donate page. Check it out. I want to encourage you guys, those of you who believe in the gospel, Paul even said, hey, don't muzzle the ox. These guys are working hard in the fields. Having on great guests like you're going to meet today, we have somebody who is a true patriot. He is in Idaho, southern Idaho. We're going to introduce you to a good friend of ours. His name is Billy Painter of the Bearded Patriots. Chris, I'm glad that you are here. sporting said beard. Usually you have a longer, well, it's a good goatee right now. I haven't shaved in a couple of days, so I'm now sporting a partial beard. So we have somebody that we're going to introduce here in a second. Before we do that, go back to our past episodes, check them out, see some of the guests Caleb's had on. He's had some really good names. Check that out. And with that, I want to introduce Billy. Are you there? Yes. Can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. I'm excited, man. We got 28 minutes to just rip on whatever you want to rip on. Your website, The Bearded Patriots. Tell us about it. We're going to pull it up right now. Sure. Let me start out with my own personal mantra. In shadows forged by ancient lies, the spark ignites, the veil shall rise. All right, so just to tell you what the Bearded Patriots really is, we're a small group, a very small group, mind you. If you go up there where. It says Patriots in the menu there, you'll see how many of us there are, of course. It's not like a club to where you get to, you know, you get a, um, newsletter or anything like that. It's where a small organization of most of us who have beards, as you can see where, you know, we're like, we're podcasters, uh, the co the, the, uh, co-founder, um, Mike Miller, he was, uh, you'll see him set second down. Yeah. He was, uh, running for office and he, he founded it with me. you know, and then of course, Colonel Chris, retired Colonel Chris Wyatt, Jericho Green. Oh yeah. And if you look at Jericho right there, you can see how white supremacist we are. Oh yeah. I love that. That's actually really good. I'm so tired of the nonsense and it's, yeah, we're done with that. Especially now with, you know, kind of the implosion of MAGA. We, there is no association left or right anymore. It's now just biblical base values. And the Bible's very clear that God created for each one of us salvation through Jesus Christ. And that includes Liberty. So yeah. Yes. I would just to finish up what I was saying though, I mean, in order to be a member of the bearded Patriots, you know, I mean, number one, I kind of like what the, I took from what gaze against groomers, to be a part of gays against groomers, you have, you have to be a part of the rainbow coalition. And I, and I thought, well, in order to be a member of the bearded Patriots, you have to be a man. You don't have to have a beard exactly, but you have to be a man and you can't be. That's good that you said that. Cause there are some women out there with beards, Chris and I have bumped into a few of them here in Spokane. So it's just, it's just a thing. It's just, it's just a reality of living in the Pacific Northwest. And I, you know, To you women who have beards, hey. Well, I'll say something about that in a minute. Not only that, but you have to do something. In order to be a member, be a very influential podcaster running for office, a couple of them there are musicians. That's good. I saw one has background in military, one was EOD, and like you said, one was running for office. So you guys are a swarthy crew. I like it. Yes. Thank you. And just to say one thing about the cross-dressers out there, I mean, I think it's wrong, as the rest of us do, but if you want to be a woman, at least try to look the part and don't have a beard. Yeah, exactly. It's so disturbing. Like I've seen clips on like different shows where a guy has a full beard, then all the makeup and the eye makeup and just like the lipstick. It is just so disturbing. It makes my skin crawl. I just. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean, the way I see it, you know, if you're a consenting adult and you want to make that choice, I mean, that's between you and God. It's and but at least try to look the part if you want to be a woman, you know, don't put on a dress and have a full beard like me. Yeah, it looks so ridiculous. What a horrific idea or picture that I just now have in my mind. So, yeah, I've already seen it in person. And as I'm sure you have, too. Yeah, truly. Well, Billy, I'm a pastor. I'm excited to hear about like what God is doing in your life. We had touched before we got on the show, you had spoken with Caleb, wanted to talk about South Africa, which I've been to Africa twice, been to Kenya and all over the Congo, the whole entire, like basically east side of Africa I've visited. So I'm excited to hear about what God's doing and then also your connection to Africa. So with that, We got 20 minutes. What's going on? All right. So to tell you how it all began with me in South Africa, it was because my first podcast that I did, I started in 2008 was, you know, all about MMA, UFC and boxing and all that combat sports. And then in 2012, I was talking with my co-hosts and say, you know, you know, I think we should go a bit international, you know, check out the fighters in Europe to, you know, and South Africa has a, has, has quite a, an MMA growing out there. And he said, we should wait till we get more sponsors to do that. And I said, Oh, I'm going to roll the dice and take my chances on this. And so, you know, I look at EFC Africa, I look at their website and I'm, You know, I'm looking at their champions, their fighters, and I'm looking them up on Facebook and sending out messages for requests for interviews. And the first one to get back to me was their featherweight champion. His name was Demart Pena. And then he connected me with his manager. And I talked to her and my first South African interview was with a man named Gareth Soldier Boy McClellan, who was the middleweight champion and a very very popular fighter at the times he did end up making it to the UFC but didn't do very well but I and then once I interviewed him it just it started going up from there because my popularity in South Africa was starting to grow and it went on that way for for about maybe four years and then I was doing a different podcast and I interviewed a South African rapper named Jack Perrow But as time went on, I started to learn about the South African government and the politics over there. And that was my segue into American politics because I started to learn that what happens in South Africa mirrors into the United States. Right. So, you know, we're talking technology. Let's let me let me ask you this how bad do you think the apartheid regime was. Uh are you talking the leadership are you talking like like the people i'm. Talking the leadership the you know before the anc government nelson mandela Yeah. I don't have a clue. What I have always seen it as is it's like the left or, you know, basically kind of like what we see with forced integration or because I'm not a racist. But when anytime we force the government gets involved in this, it goes extreme. Well, the thing was, apartheid was was not formed to keep black from white. The fact of the matter was there was a bunch of tribal infighting, especially between the Zulus and the Kosas, and they kept going back and forth, and some innocent people were getting caught in the crossfire, and apartheid was formed to keep them separated from each other. So you go to your corner, you go to your corner, because you can't get along. A lot of tribal infighting. That's why they formed the apartheid government. Now, it did get out of hand where they did separate black from white, and there were some things wrong. But think about this. Under apartheid, South African had a thriving economy, even beat us out for a time being. During the Reagan years, you know, the economy was really good back then for us. They had an even better economy. The first successful heart transplant took place in South Africa. Wow, I did not know that. Yes. Now, when it comes to Nelson Mandela and his release from prison, you know, I drank the Kool-Aid. And I believe that he was wrongfully prisoned. And you know, and all that. But what I later learned, it wasn't his rise against apartheid where it was being the reason that he ended up getting arrested and going to Robben Island. It's because he filed the paperwork and had a bunch of bombs set off that killed a bunch of black and white people alike. That's why he went to prison. He was a terrorist. He wasn't the saint that I believed him to be. And then he gets released from prison after, what, 27 years, I think it was, he spent. And he's going to forgive the Afrikaners and those that oppressed him. In truth, he was too old to really make any militant moves. And so it was basically that boiling the frog. Is what it was. Once the ANC government took over, South Africa started falling into the abyss from there. And like I said, you know, what happens in South Africa mirrors into the United States. Have you heard anything about the farms in South Africa? Yeah, regarding the farms where farmers were getting displaced and also murdered. Are you talking about that? Oh, it goes beyond that. Number one, the narrative there, the media does not cover this very much, and when they do, they basically say it was black-on-white violence. The truth is, though, it doesn't matter what color you are in South Africa, being a farmer is the most dangerous job in South Africa. Wow. The most dangerous in South Africa. So, you know, and a lot of them have these primal and very disgusting rituals that they've carried out for a long time. The Sangomas, the witch doctors, since, you know, you've been in Africa, you probably know how rampant AIDS was running. Yeah. Well, the Sangoma once told them that if they raped virgins, they could be cured. Wow. And they went after infants. Oh, geez. They went after infants. What happens on a South African farm is unspeakable. When I've seen the pictures, I've even interviewed one of the victims. Wow. Yeah, and you have guys like Julius Malema of the Economic Freedom Fighters. And then even former President Jacob Zuma singing a song called Kill the Boor, Shoot the Farmer. Wow. Or Shoot the Boor, however it goes. All you got to do, you look it up on YouTube, you can see they're out there, Shoot the Boor. You know, even President Trump presented that, that time that South African President Cyril Ramaphosa visited the White House. So.... And they denied this, and they said, oh, it's just crime. It's just crime. Well, let me show you. I have this book right here. It's called Kill the Boar by Ernst Roots. It was published in 2018, and it was not easy for me to get my hands on that book. First off, I go to the website to order it, and it's all in Afrikaans, but I've studied enough Dutch that I get I got it covered, you know, and I didn't see any extra charges. I just ran my debit card through and paid for it. But then I get an email. Excuse me. I get an email from the company. They said, oh, well, if we're going to ship internationally, you need to pay a little bit extra. I said, I got no problem with that. How much more do you need me to pay? Because I did expect to pay more. They wouldn't answer me. Oh, wow. I'd send another email a couple weeks later, and they wouldn't answer me. Until finally, I was able to reach out to the author, Ernst Roots, and I told him, you know, I ordered your book, and they want me to pay more in shipping, and I don't have a problem doing that, but they won't answer me now. And truth be told, the South African government did not want me to have that book. Well, nonetheless, though, he made sure I got it. Wow. This is intriguing. This is intriguing because anytime they don't want you to have something, that's like a tip-off that this is very, very, very important. Yeah. Well, he made sure I got it. And as you can see, I got it in my hands, and now you can get it on Amazon. But the things you'll read in this book will make your blood curdle. The South African farm attacks. Are the worst crimes I can think imaginable. They're so grotesque, I can't even tell you what's in there. You'd have to read it for yourself if you wanted to know. It's really, really bad. It's that bad. So where does this tie with America? Like I said, what happens in South Africa mirrors the United States. Well, Jacob Zuma, who I already mentioned... is an imbecile who was forced to leave office because he's apparently too stupid. Number one, corrupt to the core. He used about millions of South African rand to pay for this mansion he has in Naclanda, and he said he was going to pay it back, and then the South African Supreme Court said he didn't have to pay that back. He stole from the. People to build his mansion in a country where they're already struggling. But on top of that, you know, he's up there in age, and he can't even count. I mean, just find the video of Jacob Zuma counting. You know, I can't even remember how he did it, but he just made a fool of himself. Gee, and who did we have like that already in America? Yeah. Joke. You know, so Jacob Zuma is the black version of Joe Biden. He's an idiot. So we have that part covered there. But what concerns me there when we talk about the crime and lawlessness in South Africa, a lot of it, too, because they opened up their borders or they did nothing about the Zimbabweans or the. People from neighboring countries coming in. And there's a lot of xenophobia in South Africa. Yeah, I'm pretty sure you've heard of a process called necklacing. Very few people are necklaced, mind you. This is where a lot of black-on-black crime takes place. Tires. Tires. It's involving tires where they put the person in a tire and light it on fire. If I'm correct, they fill the inside of the tire with gasoline. Yeah. Which is horrific. Winnie Mandela herself even said with our matches and our tires, we will liberate this country. And of course that that's when Mandela was running for office and the opposition was I'll try to squeeze this in real quick. The opposition, the, the Encarta freedom party, which were again, the Zulus and the Cosa's the Encarta freedom party where the Zulus, the A and C mostly were the, were the Cosa's and that, and that was Mandela's tribe. Well, you know, if you watch it on TV, uh, there's a, uh, there's a movie about Mandela with, uh, Sidney Fortier and Michael Caine. And, um, Right there, they tried to make the Encarta Freedom Party look like the big bad monsters until I looked at the ideology where Encarta Freedom Party were anti-communist and a more right-leaning conservative group that really didn't advocate for violence, whereas the ANC are left-wing, far-left communists. Well, that should tell you everything you need to know there. Now let's think this, you know. It's mirroring in the United States, they have in South Africa, they call it BEE, Black Economic Empowerment, to where if you're a white person, you have to have a black. Partner and all that. Well, what do they have here? DEI in America. So that's a mirror right there. Then, of course, leaving the border wide open. And you got to think, I have people that live in rural areas. I have friends and family. They have farms. They have ranches. And it takes the cops, if something happens, a good 15, 20 minutes to get there. Yeah, that's the truth about like a lot of people are like, hey, why don't these people defend themselves? Well, there's no cops getting to you. It's just you and your daughter and your wife. And how you get they don't come in individuals. They come in like groups of like vehicular amounts of like small little armies, little platoons. So it's you against probably a dozen men. Well, on a South African farm, it's a rural area, and the cops are even further out. So it takes a long time. And these animals that take their time doing these horrific crimes. And, you know, we think leaving the Mexican border wide open and all kinds of people getting in. And, of course, you have people in rural areas. And already it's happened. in places like Arizona or whatever that the media won't talk about, where they've gone on to somebody's farm and gone into their house. There have been a couple cases of rape, a lot of robbery and all that. So it's mirroring in the United States. So my message, basically, I don't expect you to do much about South Africa because they're too far gone, but we can learn from them and get this from happening here. Yeah, I agree. Explain to me, I've heard about this, if I'm correct or incorrect, not only people coming in and murdering the farmers, but their land being taken away and given to basically their version of a swap out, some form of government assistance. Hey, you get this farm. Literally, your farm's taken from you, given to another individual. Tell me more about that. It's called land expropriation without compensation, and basically, you know— Horrific. Yeah, they believe that, you know, the land was once theirs. This is what they honestly believe. You know, say, you know, there is conquest, and a lot of that land was given back to the original indigenous people that lived there. But, you know, you come to what's called virgin land and they say there's no such thing as virgin land. But come on, it's everywhere. You go to a place where there's lots of acres and nothing but plant and animal life form. No people there. Yeah, that that was that was for the claiming that wasn't stealing. It's like, OK, I'll take this lot right here. No, nobody lives here. But they believe that if a tribe had wandered through, maybe stopped to, uh, relieve themselves on that spot, that that land was theirs, even though they, they, they walked through it and never went through there again. You know, that they're, it's insane. So they believe every inch of land that's owned by white people is stolen, which is not true. And it's as it's not true here in the United States. In fact, uh, You know, if the Sioux are so adamant about the land that Mount Rushmore is on, they would try to, in turn, call upon the crow that they stole that land from. So, you know, it's just been passed down from here. Between the tribes in America, there was so much murder and stealing. Like, to call us, you know, historically, yes, we were using modern technology and advancing civilization, but the tribal fighting between tribes was horrific as well, which it sounds like to me in Africa, when I was in Kenya, there was severe, um, when I was in Congo hearing what the Tutsi, um, you know, and the Dutch countries were involved in, in that as well, like to hear the violence that happened in Congo, it's still ongoing today. It's just, it's a reality that, um, there is just plain out war and subjugation, uh, would To some industrialized nation is usually no different. But in the next episode, I want to kind of give people a teaser because we have a 15 minute time with you. We're going to be leaving here off of this. You and I talked about the implosion of basically Trump's last election. term. And some people think he might have another term, which I disagree with. That's unconstitutional. There's all kinds of things brewing right now. We're going to be talking about kind of the stuff that's off air, which as a pastor, I really don't want everybody to hear what I'm about ready to say about the Trump administration. So it's kind of like the after hours conversation. I also want to talk about basically the dark underbelly of the extreme left and extreme right. So Let's talk about that and anything that comes up. This is kind of like the off-topic items. So, and can we just re-hit your website? Chris, pull that up because I want people, if you're not able to hear our last bit in the next 15 minutes, where if you actually go to our website, churchandstate.media, you'll be able to see the remainder of this interview. But this gentleman's website, yeah, there it is. Tell us one more time about where we can contact you. Sure the the bearded patriots.com or you can follow me on x at bearded or on exits at patriots bearded that's what was available that they gave me yes right there you can see my picture it's got my mantra written out there and uh well that's an ai picture mind you but yeah it doesn't fully look like me but i accepted it i kind of like it so And yes, I do like cigars. There we go. A good cigar. Like Charles Spurgeon said, I will smoke unto the glory of God, ma'am. Yeah, he was accused of being ungodly for smoking a cigar, which I completely disagree with. I believe that cigars in moderation are great. So we appreciate having you on the show. I also know that Idaho is in a shift right now. So we'll be lifting you up. A lot of people tell me, hey, I'm going to move to Idaho because it's free over there. You guys are in the crosshairs as well, a lot of your liberties. So I just tell anybody who's wanting to go to another state, how about you just fight for your own state? Sound good? Yes, yes. And if I may say really quick, too, if you're in Idaho, vote no on Proposition 1. This is life on the line here, ladies and gentlemen. Vote no on Proposition 1. We don't need to be murdering babies within the womb. And the laws we have on abortion here in Idaho are just fine. We don't need to change them. Agreed. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, I want all of you to be a walking billboard. Some of us don't have platforms such as church and state, but you know what? We can wear t-shirts and engage in great conversations with Christians and Patriots all across the country. Stand up now apparel is the best t-shirts out there. These are American made owned by a Christian and a Patriot and the material. It's like getting a warm hug from yours. Truly. One of the better things as well is there's no tags. I hate tags. I know you do as well. 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Him and about, I think it's like six other gentlemen, they are part of an organization that hits hard-hitting topics. Him and I are actually going to talk. This is kind of the after hours. We talked a lot about South Africa, what's going on there, and then just seeing the correlations between what's happening in America, our civil liberties being impinged on. Also, excited to kind of talk about what's going on with Donald Trump and just talking our hearts kind of aching on that stuff. So Billy, you're back on the show. We're going to, we're going to give it about 15 minutes, open the floor to, um, what do you want to talk about? It's like, I'm surprised you have any beard hair left. I'm surprised you haven't pulled out your beard hair after all the promises, the great, the great hope that we had in Donald Trump, a lot of unfulfilled promises. Um, Where do you want to go? Where do you want to take this? And then also anything, anything that you see coming up in the next, you know, few years, what's on your mind, what's on your heart? Well, for one, get Trump 2028 out of your mind. Not only is it unconstitutional, not only is it not realistic, but don't expect Donald Trump to finish by probably by mid 2027. He's going to be removed from office. There's going to be I'm sorry, this November 3rd. I do encourage people to go out and vote. Like I said at the end of the last segment, there's Proposition 1. I I got to tell you about our primaries here in Idaho in just a moment because they were a disaster. But no, I don't expect to keep the House. I don't expect to keep the Senate. And I expect impeachment after impeachment. They're going to remove the entire administration. They're going to clean house and they're going to open the borders and we're going to. Have some serious problems. I mean... I can't blame the full blame on Trump. You know, he can only do so much. Right. But they've been wanting him out of office for a while. And, you know, they're talking about getting rid of elections. So basically the administration chooses the leadership and not the people. They want communism. They want population control. Right. Like Mark Levin is blaming Tucker Carlson that we're going to lose all of this because of Tucker and rat, you know, we have Sean Ryan, his podcast, probably one of the best podcasts. He is pretty much shifted and he is regretted supporting Trump. Um, a lot of these, a lot of these people who are still, uh, towing the Republican line, which it's, it's very few. You have people like Ben Shapiro and, you know, Mark Levin and all these other stupid pundits who are, who are towing this Republican line and, with no accountability. They're, they're blaming Tucker. I'm not a big Candace fan, but at least, at least all these people are like, no, you screwed yourselves over. Like you as a Republican party screwed yourselves over. You, you, you didn't follow through on any of your promises. You went to war exactly what Charlie said not to do. Charlie's now gone. And with Jesus, but now we're going to war full speed that we've, the Republican party earned their abysmal performance in the primaries. And it's, I'm just kind of like done. I've, I've, What are your thoughts? Well, first off, we need to think outside of parties. And just like a few years ago, it was 2018. I remember my next door neighbor, who was a pretty good friend of mine, who moved over here from California, got tired of the communist cell hole that Gavin Newsom had created. Right. He, you know, he, he told me, It was during the 2018 midterms. He's like, oh, I didn't know of anybody on the ballot. But if they had an R next to their name, I'd just mark them down. And it's like a facepalm moment, like you don't even know it, but you're part of the problem. You know, it's time to start. While we have a quote-unquote democracy left, even though we're not a democracy, and Caleb and I have had that conversation before, Democracy is a tool we use, but it's. Not what we are. Right. Exactly. Yeah, it's, but, you know, while we have the power of democracy, because it is still important, you know, we need to start thinking outside the box of D and R. Look at the Constitution Party. Even though I know they'll probably be infiltrated, too, but, you know, just time to look at people from different parties and see where they stand. That's why we've got Democrats or Republicans all too much, because people are hung up on one or the other. And I was told a long time ago that they call it left-wing and right-wing because they're two wings apart. Of the same dirty bird. Absolutely. What was the wake up moment for you when you kind of realized, OK, this is this is a sinking ship for me when Marjorie Taylor Greene and then also Thomas Massey went vocal on pushing the opening of the Epstein files and then Trump pushed back. Then he started publicly defaming Marjorie. Majority Taylor Greene, and then also Thomas Massey, then all the money that was thrown at getting him unelected. And then the people who are using, uh, I'm not going to say this, like it turned out to be a lot of, uh, gambling money from a very rich Israeli woman. Okay. Why? Okay. This moment kind of woke me up to, okay, this, this is not how I planned on things going. Well, Thomas Massey, for reasons that I can't explain, but, you know, there are some people that I listen to that don't like Thomas Massey, and believe me, it's not for any of their other reasons. So, you know, from what I understand, and I can't fully explain, he's not quite the saint that everybody thinks. I've heard that as well. Yeah. You know, so he, you know, he's got his own, he's got, he got his own dirt. It's not the dirt that they say he has, but he he's got his own. So I don't know. I have to look into that more to see if I, I like the guy and I, I agree with what he says, but I'm, I want to find out more, you know, to see if he really belongs in there. If he was right, if he was righteously taken out, uh, by you know for other reasons that may unbeknown to the rest of us so you know jury's open on thomas massey i have no opinion um you know that and i'm wondering could he have been one of those that just only said what i wanted to hear right donald trump now i i keep hearing he's a pedophile Well, I don't believe that. If he really was, and there was a lot of dirt on him in the Epstein files, the Epstein files would have been released when they were trying to bust him on bogus charges, when he was continuously being indicted. They would have opened the Epstein files a long time ago if they had that dirt. But there's something else in there that Trump's holding back on it that, you know, yeah, he I know people that are in the Epstein files that are innocent people. Just because your name's in there doesn't mean that you're one of the pedophile, cannibalistic elites. So I'm sick and tired of hearing Trump is a pedophile just because he's been in the Epstein files or he won't release the Epstein files. That's not the case. Trump is not a pedophile. There are good things about Trump that I like, but, you know, he's—I don't know. The man, the 45 was brave where the 47 seems to cower. Yeah. I want to hit on this just for a second. You talked about South Africa. You talked about what that country went through. I want to correlate it. You said you kind of like when you were younger, you drank the Kool-Aid with Nelson Mandela. Am I drinking the Kool-Aid by seeing the atrocities that are happening in Palestine and then kind of like seeing the hypocrisy of how much money is getting thrown at Jared Kushner's future play palace, which is the beach's of this area. Should I be on Jared Kushner's side? You know, is the beautiful Jared and Ivanka doing the right thing by switching this out? Are they making it all safe? Because I've been to Israel. I visited, I saw the bombs that were, you know, they said had exploded there near Israel. And it is a real war. It is a real situation, but it's like, okay, where should I sit on this? Because it, to me, I don't ever, ever want to take my family to a vacation in this future world that they're turning Gaza into. I still want to go to Israel, take my kids to see some of the holy places, but my stomach turns to this. Am I drinking the Kool-Aid because of Candace and Tucker? Because Tucker's openly against all of this. Where do you sit on it? I don't stand with Israel or Palestine. I pity the children that are caught in the crossfire on both sides. And both. Both of them, they're soldiers, they're governments, they're going after the children. The Palestinian authorities are going after Israeli children and vice versa. The Israeli authorities are going after Palestinian children. So no, there's no one side of it there. If I free Palestine, how about free the children? Whether they be Israeli, whether they be Palestinian or Gazan, free the children because the adults are rotten to the core. So true. Yeah, it's hard right now, this situation as a Christian to be in, because I most definitely do not want acts of violence to happen to any person of Israeli descent in any country, in any area. But we have some strong language coming forth out of podcasters now that is really shining a light on AIPAC, really shining a light on the whole political process of being in the hands of Benjamin Netanyahu. And when I tell other Christians, hey, just because I say I do not support Israel doesn't mean I don't support the people. No different than I, you know, there's a lot of things about our government I don't support, but I do not support Netanyahu. And it's weird. I see all these Christians just bending over backwards, just praising him and just, oh, he's doing so much. But he's actually orchestrating eight different fronts of war and causing global war And it's to me, like I really saw who was in control when Israel bombs, uh, uh, what's the airlines cutter, not cutter airlines. This is a modern nation and escapes you right now, but Trump, Trump allows them to be bombed and he tells them to back off. And guess what? They, they just do it anyway. Um, It doesn't seem like Trump is really actually in leadership over Israel. It seems the other way around. Am I wrong? Absolutely. You're not wrong at all. You know, and quite frankly, I'm so sick and tired of them both. And this is what I said about Trump. You know, when it comes to these foreign wars that I feel that we have no business in, I'm sick and tired of the United States always wanting to be the referee like we were in Vietnam or a few other places. I mean, between Russia and Ukraine, let them fight it out as long as they don't use nukes. If they use nukes, then we got business because that affects the whole world. Let's let the middle East fight it out. I don't care anymore. It's not our job to be the referee. So, so true. And especially when it involves our kids. So, and it's, it's to me, it's, it's not getting any better. The straight of her moves keeps opening, closing, opening, closing. This is like a revolving door. So it's been awesome having you on the show. Chris pull up his website one more time. We're going to wind it down. The bearded Patriots. You've had, uh, Billy Painter, along with his motley crew of other bearded individuals, please check them out. Is there anything in these final seconds you wanted to encourage people? Anything in Idaho? You said Proposition 1, definitely Idahoans, please vote against abortion, changing the laws. Anything else you wanted to say in these closing minutes, my guy? Just thank you very much for the opportunity. Thank Caleb very much for the opportunity. I hope he feels better. Caleb's an awesome dude. I actually had the opportunity to meet him in person, and that's where we got acquainted. Oh, dude, that's great. Yeah, we were at the Red Pill Expo in Las Vegas. He was, of course, there for Mark 3-7. And whether you use Caleb's code or you use my code, get your phone from Mark 3-7. Yes, get a ghost phone. Tired of watching people be spied on. So turn off Alexa, turn off Siri, all of it. Get rid of that junk. I think Caleb says it best on his little bumper sticker on his laptop there. AI is fake and gay. That's good. I haven't seen that yet. That's good. All right. Well, we're going to wind it down. 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