Church and State -The Death of Privacy with Tom Renz

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With that, let's go to our guest, a man who shouldn't need any introduction. Tom has been a frequent guest on Church and State. But he's a best selling author, He's an attorney. He analyzes pretty much everything that's going on. He was, I mean, during the whole COVID nineteen, the whole pandemic. This man was on television constantly pushing for truth, pushing for us to not have a mandate, and I'm in debt to him, and so should you. Tom. It's a pleasure to have you back on Church and State. Glad to be here. Good to see you. Yeah, good to see you as well, sir. You know, privacy is such an important issue, and I love that you're not a one trick pony, no offense intended on that at all. But you know you started with pushing back against the mandate. But you're a warrior, and I mean, as the Acts implies behind you and one of your taglines, you're taking that ax to the head of tyranny and privacy is really at the forefront of well it should be at the forefront of every Americans. Well, you got to understand my awakening came from COVID and when I started looking and to understand what happened in COVID, you have to understand a lot of things in and around COVID, and COVID couldn't have happened without Obamacare, right. Obamacare and the use of electronic medical records allowed the government to coordinate healthcare in the same way across the country, in a way that allowed them to circumvent the laws in and around malpractice. The hospital protocols that murdered people were rolled out all across the country, and they were done so in a way that avoided malpractice and to avoid malpractices, specifically structured that way that couldn't have happened without EMRs. Because the EMR systems don't just have your records, they also help control treatment. These EMR systems really automate treatment for doctors across the country. So why does this all matter when you talk about privacy, Well, you've got to understand. When we looked at COVID, you heard vaccine, passports and all these different things. COVID was really the kickoff of the Great Reset. The Great Reset is about controlling every aspect of your life. They want to track and trace. They talked about digital surveillance, going under the skin. They talked about knowing what's going on inside your body as well as out where you are and what you're doing. And this whole thing was a move towards the elimination of any sort of individual rights or privacy at all. And that was foundational everything related to COVID, the whole lockdown, the whole everything about it was really if you remember, hey, you got to get your PCR test right so that they can take your genetic material and they can take your whatever else they're taking. And there were stories about the genetic data from the PCR test being sold to China at the time. Those have been whitewashed from the Internet, but they were there at the time, you know, So when we understand that, yeah, in and around COVID, it led me to the understanding that that, you know, our attacks on our an individual sovereignty, in our bodily integrity and just Fourth Amendment rights, those sorts of things, those were fundamental to what was occurring with that, and so it's probably the single biggest threat to freedom going forward, I would say, is the tax on our privacies and this digital prison that they're building. One of the things that you bring up that I've talked about this on the show quite a bit, is none of this is by accident. You can't look to government and say, oh, okay, it's just led by a bunch of imbeciles. That's the wrong mentality. These guys are smart, wicked, smart actually, and so when you're tying that in to Obamacare had to come first before they were able to unleash this bioweapon upon the world. These guys have been planning this for a very long time. Yeah yeah, well, I mean, you know, I'm on record, I actually testified in Congress that and have proof and stand by this. I have the medical records of a soldier who in the year twenty fourteen, on five different occasions, received the moderna COVID nineteen vaccine. So you know, tell me that they weren't planning this. Tell me it was an accident. Tell me that you believe that Donald Trump says, hey, make us a vaccine and they had one in three days. I mean, come on, really, you know, now we know that Maderna was ramping up and talking about ramping up production in twenty nineteen because they're getting ready for it. This whole thing was a plan. So this has been part of a long term plan, and it was building and it was growing, and I do think that Trump coming in in sixteen disrupted it. Now, Donald Trump twenty sixteen versus Donald Trump twenty twenty four or two wildly different people. The twenty sixteen Trump came in and they expected Hillary. Everybody expected Hillary, and the Great Reset was scheduled. They had all these different things, and with Hillary coming in, it would have been a different animal. Imagine if we'd went from Hillary to Biden or you know whoever. You know, it would have been a totally different animal. Trump did disrupt it, and in doing so, you know, he didn't get the memo. He didn't get the memo in twenty sixteen that he was supposed to shut up and you know, get along with the program. So he didn't. He did get fooled into a lot of things. He got fooled into these mRNA vaccines, which you know, to this day, it's remarkable to me. I'll see people, Well, if Trump wouldn't have did that, we would have been locked down forever. No, we got out of our lockdowns because I and a group of a small group of other people literally put our souls on the line fighting this against the biggest demons on the planet. We worked harder twenty four to seven than any other people on any other project I've ever seen. Team Freedom you know won the day only because we worked harder and smarter, and the truth went out and God had our back. It was not in any way, shape or form because of Trump's crap vaccines that have now killed more people than COVID. You know, So that whole thing is absurd. You know, he did a lot of great things in that first turn, but he did get hornswaggled really badly on anything related to COVID. I mean, for God's sakes, he gave Fauci the metal of freedom. I mean, yeah, which we all know. Let's think of. Let's think how well that age. While you're telling me that he kept us out of FEMA camps, he didn't keep us out of FEMA camps. We kept us out of FEMA camps because they knew there'd be an armed revolution if they tried it. You know. So, so that whole thing is nonsense. But you know, moving forward, it turns out that that great reset, you know, it was kicked off on the same schedule, regardless of who was there. It led to the stealing of the twenty twenty election. It led to the election fraud that we're still seeing now because you know, the mail in ballots, all those things that they implemented during twenty twenty are still there. And it most importantly was the kickoff of that digital track and trace. They used it to justify all this tracking and tracing. They continue that out and now they've kind of transitioned from we're doing it to keep you safe from COVID, we're doing it to keep your kids safe from porn and keep you safe from online predators and all this nonsense. No, you're absolutely right, and you know, just to attest to what you were saying there. In twenty twenty four, I was still working for Turning Point. We were around doing Trump events a lot, and he would bring up vaccines during his speeches and the crowd would literally boo him, and he finally got the message and shut up about it. But let me transition over to this privacy issue, because to me, this has got to be the next fight, Like every American has got to wake up. I don't care where you align politically, you need to wake up and realize that you're being put into a digital prison. And when I'm examining the flock cameras, this new signal trace that there is literally the next upgrade to the flock cameras that is tracking all of your data, your phone, the chip, and your pet that you implant in your pet it's tracking all of that you're tired sensor pressures, it's gapping all that information and knows exactly who is in that car, what you're doing. And then we've got the data centers that are going all across the United States. This is a big threat for us. That's tremendous. I'll tell you right now that if people knew how much information is available about them, they would there would be riots in the streets tomorrow. As an attorney, I have access to certain tools that you aren't normally available to people. And I only have access to a number of those tools. I don't have all of them. Right. If you're a private investigator, you've got access to certain tools. If you're an attorney, you got access. But if you're the federal government, the amount of access you have is terrifying. And not with Palunteer coming in, which if for anybody that doesn't know Palenteer is putting AI in and around and through the government and the laws that we keep passing, what's happened is there is no privacy. So let me explain to you this is really central. So I just talked last night a little bit about Texas has the online Accountability Act, right, and the Online Accountability Act in Texas. This is I'm using Texas specifically because it is a red state. It's Texas, right. So Texas passes Online Accountability Act, and it says that your kid's data is protected except for except for. Now, the accept fors are where you always have to look. And I always start with the law on everything because it's the law, and you know it is what it is. So the except for is identified in public data. Now, anything that these stories want to do with the identified or public data they can there's always that exception to say, well, well yeah, but that's like metadata. It's de identified. You know, they don't know it's your kid's social Security numbers, this, that and the other. But here's what's happened. We've created a web and de identified data also includes quasi identifiable data. Now, quasi identifiable data is available, and what that is is your gender, your zip code, you're certain things that are a little more general about you. So that general information goes out there and it's collected and it's put it it's associated with a unidentified number or file. Right, So there's a file on this de identified data. Now here's the problem. Let's say that you live like I do in Fremant, Ohio. There's twelve thousand people here right now. I'm doing whatever I'm doing. I'm searching for whatever on Google, and Google you know has has somewhere, and maybe I didn't notice the set in the settings. Most people don't where it says, you know, can we collect this data on you? Can we collect that data on you? And you forget it to opt out once or you get one of these, and I know that you've got the ghost phones, which is awesome. I'm eager to talk to your guys at Mark thirty seven. But you got one of these, and when you buy that phone, you click I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree. You never read the eight hundred pages of contracts that you're looking at, And even if you do, I can tell you as an attorney, they've got some tricks those contracts that even if you read what you're agreeing to, it's going to incorporate by reference. That's the legal language. It's going to incorporate by reference other contracts and other provisions that are not in front of you. You'd have to click four or five different links and read four or five different things that are associated with it, that all become part of that contract and you never see it, right, So they do this intentionally because what they do is they hide in various other contracts that are incorporated by reference what they can do and how they can do it. So through this very complex web of legal nonsense, along with the massive amount of data that they're collecting that's the identified they can put all this the identified data together with AI and then they can essentially triangulate and once they identify you in one spot, all they have to do is find a way to connect that to another data set that the identified data set, and then that becomes you and then suddenly they can sell and share everything about you. By doing that, if I really wanted to, I could track down using geo fencing, using other data, I could find out where you were yesterday. I could find out everywhere you went. I could find out who you were sitting next to. I could find out who you're friends with. I could find out who you're texting, who you're emailing. I could find out where you're connected. Every single thing that you do trackable and traceable through the use of AI. These huge data sets, the publicly available data and now imagine Palenteer coming in with access to your tax records, to all of your bank records through AMLBSA laws, all of your healthcare information through Medicare, Medicaid or just simple through electronic medical records. The information they get with you through your real ID, which now they can associate with you, so that now they have a legal identity online that tracks and traces, and that, by the way, they're able to share because they're sharing carve outs for real ID that are handled through a public private partnership just like the FED. So there's no accountability to anyone. There is no more anonymity. Whatever you're doing in your life. I promise you it's tracked and it's traced. If you're having an affair, if you drink too much much, if you do anything wrong, someone has a record of it. And everybody. Now I understand we're in church and state, right, We're all God people, we all trust, we all love God, we all try our best. But I assure you not one person watching this is Jesus Christ. That means every single one of us sins, makes mistakes, tells that little white lie, tells us little this little guess what it's not unknown anymore, everything you do, no matter how clever you think you are, no matter how secret you are, it's there, and if someone had the impetus, they could find it. The only reason that they're not acting on this right now is because they're still building it out, they're still structuring it, and they know that if they share this, people would just lose their minds. And I know, speaking you know you've got your background with Turning Point right, Well, guess what you really want to know? What happened with Tyler Robinson? It could be found. If we really want a whole truth about Tyler Robinson, who he is talking to, It's there. Someone has it, Our government has it or could have it. Whether they choose to look it up and follow it through, I don't know, but I assure you the data is available. Yeah, you're You're absolutely right, And I've been very open on this show about that. I do not believe the official story. I don't think Tyler Robinson is the lone gunman similar to JFK. That's obviously there's there's a lot more behind that. But the picture that you're painting is one of the most terrifying pictures I've ever looked at honestly, like the dystopian movies that I'm a big fan of. I'm wearing my they Live Obey shirt right now, but you know I love dystopian films and I'm you know, pallling here. I've talked about this before Minority Report. Ladies and gentlemen, this is this is the future. If we don't do something about it, that will be the future that you through all of your online personalities, everything that you're doing, everybody you're texting, things you're looking up, you could have your door knocked in and be arrested for a crime you haven't even committed. Yeah, you absolutely could. Predictive policing is coming, and you know it's a thing that they can do. And so let's think about this. So a civil suit, if I'm suing you for something civilly, that's preponderance of evidence as a standard. So it's kind of more than fifty percent likely, right, I Mean, that's not a hard thing in the law, but that's kind of you know, you get to sixty seventy percent likely, you probably win the civil case beyond a reasonable doubt. You know, that's ninety ninety five percent, right, Well, most human behavior is predictable. Right. No one is comfortable thinking about this, nobody likes acknowledging this. But guess what. Most of us get up around the same time every day. Most of us do the same things every day. You know, you go to the gym, you don't go to the gym. You eat lunch at this time, you eat lunch at that time, you eat dinner at this time. You know, maybe you spend an hour with your kids, maybe you spend six hours with your kids. Whatever you do, most people do similar things daily. A vast majority of your life is very predictable if you talk to certain people. If you do so, you've got an awesome gun sitting there behind you. You know, maybe you're into guns. Maybe you're buying guns from trade shows that don't meet some sort of standard. All that becomes trackable and traceable. And if you become the person who does some of these things, well it's just a matter of which things the government decides to flag to make you a criminal. Now, under Joe Biden, he decided that Catholics and parents who spoke at school boards were potential domestic terrorists, so they treated them as such. Well, here's the thing. They can make a justification for anything that they want. When they track and trace everything, and when we start looking about predictive policing, that gives them the justification. And when you go to the courts. The thing that's happening right now is the courts they look at the law. We've never had. Our founding fathers could have never predicted a situation where the government could get this much data on people and then use it in a predictive way, and they can use it accurately. The government can show ninety five percent of the time that they're going to be right in terms of predicting what you're going to do, because you do the same thing every day everybody does. If the government makes what you're doing every single day criminal, well, that gives them the right to do whatever they want. And now because of selective law enforcement, because of the fact that they know, they have double standards. You know, if you're a rich guy on the Epstein list and you're raping kids, that's perfectly fine. But if you're a poor guy that's doing it, you're going to jail. Well, everybody should go to jail, right, the rich and the wealthy and the connected. They use prosecutorial discretion is what they call it, to make sure that they don't ever prosecute those guys. But the poor guy on the street who can't afford the million dollar lawyer, well, guess what, you're in trouble. So we're at a point now where political leaders will be able to pick and choose winners and losers, and they'll be able to justify it in the court because they'll be able to get past that reasonable doubt. They'll be able to show using this kind of predictive policing model, distrack and trace in the data. I mean, listen, you develop enough data, the court's going to say, listen, you've got enough evidence. Yeah, this guy might really be a threat. We're going to give you that warrant, We're going to give you this. We're going to give you that, and from there, you show me the person, I'll show you the crime. And that's where we're at. Yeah, you're you're absolutely right, tom On. One of my great fears, and one of the things that I talk about quite a bit on this show is I'm trying to warn you know, the bulk of my audience is going to be more on that conservative side of things, republican libertarian, but a lot of them cannot see the forest through the trees, and they're they're examining, they're looking at what the Trump administration is doing with you know, with with ice, with this this national policing, the surveillance system on people that maybe we view as the enemy. You know, maybe these we don't want all these illegal immigrants in there, but we're literally building this police state around us. And as you're pointing. Out, it's very quickly that the government can decide, hey, that person is an enemy of the state. Well, absolutely, this is interesting, right. So the tenth Amendment says, and I'm reading it verbatim because I just popped it up because I wanted to read this to you, the power is not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States. Are reserved to the States, respectively, or to the people. Now. The Ninth Amendment clarifies that even more and puts it more in the hands of people. Now, the Supreme Court decided that the Ninth Amendment doesn't matter, which was one of the most egregiously bad decisions ever created. But remember, our founding fathers created the Constitution as a limitation on government. They only enabled the specific things that they enabled, and they specifically said you cannot do the things that we didn't specifically enable. Over years, through a lot of bad Supreme Court decisions and a lot of just complacency by the people, we've allowed that creep to grow to the point that that power creep to grow to the point where we really have very little authority or autonomy at this point. But where in the world did the federal government ever get the power to do the things that it's doing. The states are the ones that should be doing this, and the states are even limited by the Ninth Amendment if it was properly ever implemented. So we're at a point now where I think that there's you know, everybody wants me to say Trump's Jesus or Trump is Satan. Trump is just some dude, right, some dude. And to be real honest, the amount of time and research that I put into being able to talk about digital privacy in the digital prison at COVID and health freedom and these things. I mean, I've spent tens of thousands of hours over the last six years on these things. So here's the thing. Does Trump fully understand the implications of what he's doing. The answer is, well, no, no, he doesn't. I know the White House, I know the people. He does not know everything he's doing. But he's the man in charge and should he be making these decisions when he doesn't know, No, he shouldn't. The problem is, though, is that he surrounded himself with a bunch of crooks. I've extensively talked about Susie Wiles as chief of staff, who he seems to think is the savior of his administration. You know, she's a crook, she's a sellout. When you're running a company as big as the United States of America, and I know it's not a company, but when we look at it, you know, essentially you're running this giant thing, millions and millions of employees, and you know, leading hundreds of millions of people, and realistically, as the leader of the free world, billions of people globally. You don't have time to spend a thousand hours researching the digital prison, so you have to rely on your advisors. Well, what happens when your advisor is a crook? You get bad advice. They tell him what they want him to hear, and they say, hey, by the way, if we do this, you know it's probably not going to hurt your bottom line, and so he says, Okay, that sounds good. It's good for the American people, good for my bottom line, and I don't really see a downside. Let's just go with it. The reality of what's happening in Washington is not as clear cut as this is a good guy that's a bad guy. There are definitively bad guys there, and a lot of them, but not all of them. And a lot of our elected officials are frankly too stupid to know what they're doing. Now, you said something that was really important at the top of the show. These people aren't stupid, and I would agree with you. But let's define who these people are. The elected officials are largely idiots. There's a few of them that are not. There's a few of them that are brilliant. That's why Thomas Massey had to get rent out of Washington. The guy is mit. He's just a very smart guy. And I don't you guys can hate me all you want. I like Tom Massey. I don't care. The guy was principled, he stood for what he believed in. Yeah, he got pissed off at Trump and he fought back. But you know whatever, whatever, I would get mad too if I was getting attacked like that, So go ahead and judge that largely. I mean AOC. Let's use AOC as an example. The dumbest, arguably the dumbest woman in Congress, which is really that's quite quite a crown. She was picked in a talent contest. I mean this is widely known now. You know. Basically, they went out and they did a talent contest and they found the stupidest person that they could seem the most electable, someone who can follow instructions and can you know, do what they're told. So and I can tell you I won't say the name, but I know for a fact at least one of our Republican governors in this country, and it's not my governor, I know, I'd love to say his mind, but one of the Republican governors in this country who's well known, was picked. I know this because I talked to his consultants. Was picked because well, he's really good at following orders and you know, he knows how to do it be in front of the camera. So that's on the Republican side as well as the Democrats. The elected officials are largely idiots, but the people controlling them are not. They're brilliant, and they're part of a larger scheme, the consultant class, which really runs our country. You cannot get elected to any statewide office, including Senate, most of the House races, governor, state ag. You cannot win a statewide race without the consultant classes backing. You can't. It's not possible. Tom Massey was probably the single biggest proof of that in history. They spent thirty million dollars to take you out. If you're a real threat, If the consultant class doesn't want you there, you will not be there. And you know we can get into whether that's through elections, stealing, through legitimate campaigning, you know, playing the rules. It doesn't matter why you will not be there without the consulting classes back backing. And so these people are very smart. But these people are not the people that were elected or voting for. It's the people running the show. That's why Mitch McConnell is his office is still doing so many terrible things, even though the guy's possibly dead in the hospital. Yeah, with his wife fleeing to China, a very very strange situation. We got a heartbreak coming up, ladies and gentlemen, but Tom's going to stay with us another fifteen minutes. Hey, this is Caleb Collier with the Church and State podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, I want all of you to go to Galileo dot com. 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It's why I wrote a book called Political incontinents filled with stupid quotes from politicians. It's fun, it's a great bathroom read. But the shadow hand, the people behind the scenes that are just obsessed with power. They don't need their faces in the news, and in fact, they prefer that it's not. And this is going back all the way to the banking class of the Rothchilds. They like to be able to hide in the shadows and control everything that's going on in the world. And yeah, we got a bunch of puppets that are just so happy. Their egos are so big that hey, I'm on camera. It's like Mike Wazowski, I'm on TV. You know, like, no, it's not that great, guys. Yeah, no, that's one hundred percent the truth. I mean, you know, it's like it's COVID is a great example of so many things, and it's something that I go back to mostly because people understand it. You know, right now, if I said to you, who's the real villain of COVID, you'd say Anthony Fauci. Everybody says Anthony Fauci. Anthony Fauci was a crook who was paid to do something. But you got to ask yourself who paid him? Off right, Anthony Fauci wasn't poisoning the world because he thought he was going to take over the world. He wasn't even trying to take over the world. He is trying to make sure that he was serving his master's well. And he did a hell of a job of that. But do you really think that Fauci just decided on his own to develop a scheme to create a you know, a disease that they were going to pre plan, get everything ready for transfer fifteen to thirty trillion dollars from one I mean, he didn't get fifteen to thirty trillion dollars, but guess who did. The people who were paying him, right, the people who controlled the banking systems, the people who controlled the levers of power, the people who controlled the tech companies. I mean, Amazon made more money than you can imagine, right. The Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, you know these guys. But they all had a hand in it, right. In fact, we know that the Rockefeller Foundation was in on this original proposal with Eco Health Alliance that we believe resulted in the creation of stars. COVID too. Of course, so was Hunter Biden through his investments into Metabiota through Rosemont Seneca. It looks like he may have made some money off of it too, right, So they just make sure that they pad everybody's pockets. But nobody talks about the Rockefeller Foundation's involvement, or the Welcome Trust, or the people who backed the Welcome Trust, or the people who are involved with some of these others. You know, we all stop with Anthony Fauci's the devil, and you're right, Fauci's evil as hell. You know, he's like, Bauci is the equivalent of, you know, one of the leaders of one of the Nazi death camps in World War Two. You know, he was absolutely evil, did horrible things, did it the best of his masters. But Fauci wasn't the hitler. The hitler is a guy who we don't even know who their names are, right. They want to be in the shadows. They want to set up where there's fall guys for them. If you believe that Fauci is evil, then you got to ask yourself who paid him to do it? Because Fauci did a lot of things that benefited a lot of people so that he could benefit himself. Who are the people that he did it to? Benefit. They were the ones paying him. Yeah, you're you're absolutely right. I want to ask you about another character that oftentimes the Conservatives are given a free pass to. And no, I'm not talking about Elon Musk, although we could. I want to talk about Peter Theo because this is a guy I've been watching and a lot of people love him because of Rumble. You know, so many of us got banned off of YouTube and it's like, but Rumble, Rumble's great, Rumble's okay, guys, it's not as good as you think it is. But he's also behind Palentier. He's also behind jd Vance. This is the guy who mentored jd Vance, gave him money for his campaign for his college. So what are your thoughts on this guy, because now he's fleeing to Argentina. This seems kind of strange to me. Yeah, well, I mean listen, Pallenteer is one of the most evil groups on the planet, right, I mean Palenteer. They were part of the Total Information Awareness Program, which was actually canned. And the Total Information Awareness Program was originally it was a deep state program and it was designed to make sure that everything on this planet is tracked and traced it was canned because it was so unpopular. But let's look at what's happening now. You've got an AI system in the federal government that's able to triangulate and use this quasi and identifiable information and all these different things to essentially track and trace everything you're doing. We're building out flock cameras, we're building out all these different things. Well, guess who has access to all that same group of people. I mean, meanwhile, he's out here like doing private lectures with the elites about the anti Christ and god knows what other sort of nonsense he's talking about. I think one of the things that's really interesting when we talk about Deal or a number of these other people who are really major movers and shakers in this space, is they're kind of the religious annotations and the religious kind of tie ends with it, right. They're all talking about the Antichrist and the end times and all these things. None of that's mainstream. The leits talk about it behind the scenes, and they're moving in a way that just looks like they're going the wrong direction. I mean, if you look at the Bible, if you're a Christian, if you believe in you know, in God, you read about the end times and the beasts and the beast system, and you can't participate in commerce unless you do this and this and this. Well, they're literally building that out. So they talk about that end Times, they talk about it in a way that leads you to believe that they believe in this stuff. But they're on team Satan. I don't know how else to say it, because they're building out the infrastructure that literally is described as the b system, you know, And we're right there, right, I mean, we saw during COVID that you'd get debanked. Now imagine how much worse that that's going to be when they devalue to the dollar to the point that it's useless, and that most trading is being done with these cryptos that private entities can turn on or off at will, at the behest of the government. Of course, the government will bear no accountability. They'll say, well, I can't help, but the private company said they don't want you to use their crypto, so nothing we can do about it. Of course, just like Joe Biden told Facebook, hey shut this guy down. Facebook shut him down. He said, well, we can't do it. It's not censorship because it's Facebook, that did it. Not the government. They've mastered using this public private partnership concept to get around and circumvent our constitutional rights. Deal and some of these others are at the center of that. There's no question about it. And you can see if you track with the World Economic Forum and some of these other guys have put out there, they tell you that's what they're doing. This isn't speculation. I can show you links to you know, Peter Thield doing his lecture series on the Antichrist. I can show you links the WF talking about how they use public private partnerships to circumvent law. I mean, these things are just out there. It's not speculative. I could put this in the court and put my name on it because it's just straight up evidence. It qualifies as evidence under any definition you want to use. So yeah, I mean it's a little less concerning to me that, you know, the day one of Trump's presidency, he's talking about Pallenteer and Deal and these guys, and then you see him bringing in Borland crew and talking about their their you know, forty eight hour cancer cure bull crap out for the cancer that they caused with the COVID vaccines, and just thing after thing after thing, all pointing towards this digital imprisonment. Yeah, I'm so glad you brought up eschatology into this conversation. You know, I was in the camp for so long that was just watching all of this and just my entire biblical lens was through Revelation. And thankfully I was corrected there because there's so much more to the Bible than that. But that being said, it does seem like these these evil people that you and I have been discussing discussing on this episode, that they're reading the Revelation and they're like, this is the plan, you know, this is this is good, we can use this. And obviously there behes to their master, who is Satan, but the Or is slowly bringing about this one world system that's described in the Book of Revelation chapter thirteen. Specifically, they're pushing that one world currency. And you're right, it's absolutely these these central or these well they're central bank digital currencies. That's one of their agendas. But even if it's just totally private like bitcoin, I don't trust that they're pushing one world religion. They're pushing one world government upon us, and so many of us are just distracted by the bread of circus. We're not even in the fight. Yeah, well, who founded bitcoin? I don't know, if you know, I'd love to know, you know. I mean, you know, there's a lot of things out there that we don't know, and it's like we just blimely trust it. An idea of a cryptocurrency, a truly private, a truly controlled currency, Well, that sounds great, right. Hey, Hey, this is encrypted, it's on my phone. You can't touch it. It's mine. That sounds great, right, except for one thing. If you want to spend it, you've got to spend it in one of the crypto marketplaces. And someone controls that, right, So that digital little blurb that you've got on your cell phone, well yip ee, if you can't spend it, and if the marketplace shuts you down, and guess who controls the marketplace, It ain't you. It's not a free market, it's a privately controlled markets. These marketplaces become more controlled, and particularly one of the things that you've got to look at that people don't understand is the importance of what's occurring with the consolidation of the marketplace. Right now, right small business was destroyed during COVID. You can't go to your local store and buy something anymore. There are no more local stores. You go to Walmart, you go to Amazon. Well, what happens when Amazon quit's taken your money? What happens when Kroger quit's taken your money? What happens when you go to the grocery store and you can't buy groceries because you're not on the list or you've done something that they say, well, we don't want to do business with you. Well, they have the right to deside who they want to do business and not with or not And since there are no alternatives out there, guess what happens. We're kind in trouble. And you say, well, you know if they do that, someone will open up their own grocery store. Okay, well, how are they going to get the food? Because guess what, the whole food distribution system is consolidated in the hands of a few people, So you know, they don't have to do business with the grocery store that they don't like. It's it's checkmate. That's where we're going on this. And in terms of the biblical aspects of this, you know, one of the things I would suggest people understand is don't just read revelations. This is discussed throughout the Bible where things will go. The end times were discussed throughout through the New Testament and also an Old Testament. Now are we in then times? I have no idea. I pray we're not. I would like to think that we're going through this hiccup and that we're going to come back together and we're going to get out of this, and that ten times they are going to be, you know, ten twenty centuries after I live, so that my kids and grandkids can get to, you know, have a great life. I don't know whether that's where we are, and I don't live my life as though it's the end of the days. But I also am not going to ignore what's laid out very plainly in front of me in the Bible and elsewhere and pretend that I don't see some parallels there and what could be happening. Now here's the thing for me. I can't control what God is going to do. I can't control whether it's the end times. What I can do is do my darnedest to try and do the right thing and to fight for the right things, so that maybe the Big Man says, you know, we got a lot of good people down there. We're going to hold off on this end time thing for a little bit, give them a couple more generations. See how things are. We do have Sodom and Gomorah, you know where you know, Hey, if you can find fifty good people, if you can find twenty five good people who find ten good, hopefully we can find enough good people that the big Man says, you know what, We're going to keep you guys going a little bit longer. Let's turn it around. Let's try and see what we can do. But regardless, in any event, it's hard to argue that what's being built out isn't similar to what was described in the book, you know, because without the mark of the beast, you can't participate. Well, guess what, you know, we've got a universal idea that they're trying to implement with us. We know they're going to try and put it under the skin. We know that they're going to try and use biometric and all these different things, and it's going to be very hard to opt out or to survive without it. That's where that's going. It's just impossible to miss. You know, you're once again I'm in complete agreement there, and I think what you said was incredibly well said, honestly, that the idea of not living in that fear of yes, we're living in the end times, right, it's upon us look to the signs like, ladies and gentlemen, that's not the way to live your life, all right. It may be here. We don't know. Though, and Jesus told us that if you read the scripture, we don't know. Can we prepare for it? Can we look and see signs and say, ah, that could be it? Sure? But the most important thing, and I know you agree with me on this, Tom, is to do what Jesus told us to do, to go and spread the good word, to take care of widows and orphans. That's the most essential thing that we're doing. That's why I love the work that you're doing. We're running down at the end of the interview here, but I want to point everybody to the website Tomrens dot com. Ladies and gentlemen, this is an absolute warrior. If you're not familiar with them, you got to get on this website, start exploring this, go through the history of what Tom has been doing for you, for every single person on this world, literally, not just Americans. But Tom, tell us a little bit more about your website. Well, listen, I mean, if you want to, we're doing a lot of work right now. I'm doing a lot of work. My background is actually I was in banking and consulting and all sorts of things like that before I got into what I'm doing now. So we're doing a lot of work to try and build up some businesses and structure some things so that there are are alternative spaces, particularly in the health and wellness areas. So I mean, if you need help on that, we're doing that. We've got the Tom Runs Show, I do my podcast. I hope you're following that. That's where we we tell the truth, whether people like it or not. You know, we're trying our hardest to balance all the things right. We've got to build infrastructure, we've got to fight the fight. You know. I'm always looking for the next big right lawsuit. It's got to be the right thing, right, so, hey, file this case. Well, I'd love to file this case, but it's got to be the right case, and it's got to be the right time. And we've got to be able to fund it, so we need your support. Your support allows us to keep fighting. And I want to stress this, and I stress this whenever I'm on a show, Church and State. You guys are fighting, You're telling the truth. You know you have me on your platform, which I appreciate. Hit share, hit like please get the word out my show Tom Rens Show, Church and State. This is something that I cannot stress enough. You will not get truth from the mainstream, and the only way that we can get the truth out is to personally share it ourselves. Watch this interview, share it out because they're gonna block it. It's gonna be a freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach. You're gonna have that everywhere. They don't want you to hear about Pallanteer. They don't want you to hear about the tech oligarchy. They don't want you to understand how tracked and traced you really are. The only way we get the truth out and the only way we fight back is if we the people come together, and that comes down to you sharing Church and State, following Church and State, sharing the Time RHN show, following the Time Run Show, following us on social media and helping us grow. It's not about being popular. I never wanted my name out there. But if we don't do this, who's gonna because no one else is amen. I think for the audience, if you're not listening to the words of Tom and the wisdom that is in that, then shame on you, honestly, because we do. The people that are in this fight, we didn't ask for it. Look, the people that are in this fight, we're just people that hate bullies. Honestly, that's what it comes down to. We like freedom, we hate bullies, and so we put ourselves out there. A lot of us have been attacked. I know Tom has been attacked ridiculous amount of times, but he's a warrior. He's not gonna stop and he's gonna rest when he gets to heaven. Tom, it's been an absolute pleasure having you on the show again. I'm gonna go ahead and close this out if you hold on one more minute post production of Saarahobyes, I appreciate it, but again, thank. You for all your work, everything that you're doing, and for being on the show. Yeah, bless and thank you for your work. Thank you to your audience for listening, and thank you all for continuing to stand with us. Amen to that. All right, ladies and gentlemen. There you go from an absolute warrior, a man who has been battle tested. We got to get into this fight. And privacy is it, Ladies and. 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