Church & State -Digital ID with Hanna Roth

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Every single time I fly the TSA just puts me in a bad mood, like as soon as I get to the airport, just kind of angry like, oh, of course, I'm gonna have to deal with them again. And I don't want to be that guy. But it's the it's the tyranny just right in our face. I want to push back against surveillance upon us, and so I'm so excited to bring in Hannah Roth of rejectdigitalid dot org. Hannah, thank you so much for joining us on Church and State. O Caleb, it's just so nice to meet you. Thanks for having me. Yeah, absolutely, it's a real pleasure, and just thank you so much for the work that you're doing. As we begin this conversation, I think for there might have been somebody that stumbled upon this episode and they're like, digital ID. I've heard a little bit about that, but I don't really know what it entails. Can you give us a definition of what this country is looking at for digital IDs? Well, Catherine Austin Fitz actually said it. The best digital ID is real ID. So if you look up in the right hand corner of your driver's license, if there is a star, you're in that one half of the digital ID system. I call it digital gulug. And the reason why is because the intent behind it is to imprison every single human that they can possibly into it. And that's a whole other subject. But yeah, I call it a digital gulug and it's called real ID. And you know, the way it's being sold to us is for our convenience to make travel easier. But there are I don't even remember eleven twelve something like that, other legal options that you can use as identification. You don't need real ID in order to travel. It doesn't actually make anything easier or quicker. You have to still stand in the same long line. But that's what digital idea is, is real id. Yeah, and I love that what you were referring to a digital gulog, right, because gulog sounds really pleasant to me. I mean, I'm a student of history, so obviously a gulog it's you know, it just it brings in like images of butterflies and rainbows and unicorns, much like when they call re education camps like that just sounds very pleasant to me. Dripping with sarcasm, of course. Yeah, I think Siberia when I hear digital Google, I think Siberia. And that's about all you need to know. I mean, anyone can look up goologs and understand what that's all about. But that really is the intention. And not only is it the intention, and this isn't a conspiracy theory, this is actually the stated intention. The stated intention is to have complete and absolute control. And we finally now have blockchain technology, which is the breakthrough of the century. And you can note my sarcasm. Because with blockchain technology, we now have the capacity for gathering endless amounts of data, which is what's allowing for AI, which is what's allowing for real idea, which is what's allowing for programmable money or stable coin or CBDC, whichever name. You want to use on it. I don't really care. You know, Trump outlaw or did an executive order again CBDC, and then promptly came in with stable coin, which is the same thing. It's all programmable money, and it's all on the blockchain technology, and we can get deeper into that because it's important to do so. But yeah, digital bulug. You know, this is the dream of every would be tyrant throughout history. Once you achieve that level of authority, your goal, your end goal, is to make sure it doesn't get taken from you. And so every tyrant from the beginning of recorded history has always enacted policies that are meant to keep us, the peons, if you will, at the lowest levels. But it isn't until just recently that they've achieved the ability to literally spy on every citizen literally using predictive programming pre crime algorithms, to where if any of us even get the idea of pushing back against the systems, we're completely locked up. Goodbye, blacklisted, I mean, the list goes on and on and what they can do to us. Well, yeah, that's that's exactly the point. And you know, so yes, every tyrant in history has had this dream of absolute control and absolute controler authoritarianism has fallen apart ultimately, and it will again as well. We're seeing it actually falling apart already, but this time they actually have the capacity to create an enduring trap. Yeah, and so yes, in terms of what you're saying, that is what's being built here. And the problem is that people don't know it. People think that because of what's being sold to them. The propaganda around real idea is get it. It's easier for you, it's faster, it's more convenient, it'll make travel easy. In fact, they've lied to people in the mainstream media and said that you know, you won't be able to travel without it. Oh, you're going to be fine. First it was eighteen dollars, and it was forty five dollars. You know, next it'll be whatever it'll be, you know, carrot and then the stick. But you know, all of this is to usher as many people into the real id system as possible. And the reason why is it all right, for me to just jump into this kalb. Because I still like to connect with us. Great. So have you heard of fed now? Yes? Yeah, So a lot of people don't understand what fed now is, but I call it the train on the train tracks. Fed now is the train track, and our money is the train and the fed now track that's being laid and has been for the last many years. It's been brought to us by the BIS and the central bank system that has is forcing banks around the world, this is global to adopt the fed now system, which is the blockchain technology system, and they all have to get their banks into this system so that money has transacted on the blockchain technology. Now. Why that's important is because the same blockchain technology that banks are being forced to adopt in their back the back end, is the same blockchain technology that real idea is on. So people are. Like, oh, they have all my information now, Well, they always had your information, it was a matter of what platform they had your information on. A standard driver's license is not on the blockchain technology. The real ID is on the blockchain technology. There are eleven states that we know of that we've been able to account for where you can not opt out where you're stuck in real ID and so you're stuck in the blockchain technology. And as people discover this, they contact me because they want to build in their stage to get that repealed and then get laws passed to ban force course compelled or mandated real ID. But the reason why I'm bringing this up is because people wonder, well, how is the digital goolag going to happen? Well, here's how it happens. If the background of your driver's license is blockchain technology and the background of your banking is blockchain technology, then all I have to do is just connect the two, which is just a click of a button once it's on the same platform. And then the roll out the app, which is already being rolled out, and so people because they're being sold as a convenience, Oh it's faster, it's quick, put it on your smartphone, and then they can connect your banking on you on your app, and they can connect your real idea, your driver's. License on your app. They can connect your insurance on your app, your shot history on your app, your medical on your app, your car, your mortgage, your life insurance. Everything is all and it's a one stop shop, which is really so convenient, particularly for hackers who are already breaking into people systems and taking their entire lives just from this breakthrough called blockchain technology, and that is how the digital gulag is being built. It is terrifying, I gotta tell you. And the fact that there. Are so many people willingly just participating in this scheme of total tyranny. But as you're talking, I'm thinking of China as the model, as the example, and I thought as Americans, I mean, I thought, as you know, Maga, that we were kind of opposed to the tyranny, the corporate communism. I suppose in China that we were opposed to this and this idea of social credit scores. But that's exactly what's coming at us, and most of us aren't even paying attention to it. No, Well, because the way it's being sold. It's being sold like we have a choice, and we do have a choice, we have the choice to say no, we can reject it. But because it's being sold as a convenience and it's going to make life easier, and Americans have gotten fat and happy and eat and lazy. So you know, oh, convenience the magic word. Just tell people it's convenient, and they will jump at it. I mean for me, that's like, you know, the moment I hear the word convenient, I run yeah, because. Not even remotely good for me. And that's really how they're getting us. And you know, I heard someone recently, I call us the United States of China, you know, because that's what's happening here before our very eyes. And just recently I heard someone say it's actually better in China than what's happening here. Wow, that's that's a scary thought to think that China actually has a better off than supposedly the freest, greatest country in the world. If you listen to any you know, talking head, whichever party it is, or the greatest country that's ever existed, there's there's a you know, I'm a guy, and so I love movies right now, and men typically we love to put quotes into our conversations from movies. But there's something I bring up on the show all the time, and it comes from Spider Man, and it's where Uncle Ben tells Peter Parker or with great power comes great responsibility. And you just touched upon that. As Americans, we have enjoyed the Republican form of government given to us by our founding fathers, where we have liberties that were given by God, not by government, not by an edict, not by a mandate. And as you pointed out, Americans have become fat and lazy and apathetic to our freedoms, to our great power, and we're just letting it slip to our fingers like water. That's exactly right, and that's actually what got me. You know, Catherine Austin Fitz is doing this get off the Couch tour of the United States, and God Lover that woman is just unstoppable and brilliant, and she's right. People need to get off the couch. But if you read our constitution, you'll see that we actually also have a constitutional responsibility to the citizens of this great country. We have a constitutional responsibility in the faith of tyranny to rebel. We do, and we have a very specific way outlined for us to rebel. And once I read it and learned how, then it became so clear to get. Off the couch. People need to learn how to demand something different from their legislators, and it begins at the state level. And so we created our I created actually Glenn Meter and I over a course of many conversations. Glenn Meter is an amazing guy Privacy Academy, and you know, he's very much in you know, our tribe, and we were talking about how exactly do you activate a country that's gotten lazy and complacent and uneducated. And so you do two things. You activate and empower people and break up their learned helplessness, and you teach them and then have them teach others. So education is crucial. We need to take responsibility for getting ourselves educated and then educating others. And then we have to learn how to reactivate our relationships with our legislators, you know, the people that we pay to do those jobs that we then put them on a pedestal and fear them and get intimidated about talking to them and all of that kind of nonsense. No, we pay them, they're doing our jobs that we've given to them to do, and we need to learn how to talk to them. And then we also need to learn how to demand that they pass laws that protect us and protect our freedoms. And so that's essentially what reject Digital Idea is doing. Yeah, I absolutely love this is something I've advocated for on my show because people don't understand how politics works. They need to know that politically, they're looking at the small races. They're identifying the people that are compromised, that are looking for power, that are looking for money. And these are the people that are running for the city council or the mayor or state legislators. The bad side is identifying them and they're pushing them forward. That's your next congressman, that's your next senator. They've identified these people because they want to control them. We need to operate the same way. We need to start at that ground level. Start bringing in good people that have I don't know, honor their oath that they take to defend and uphold the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. We need people like that, and then we can move them through the process and we can actually get good representatives even at the federal level. Well, yes that that yes, number one. But we've also got a bunch of you know, I spend a lot of time now up the Capitol or on zoom calls with legislators and their aids, and. It is shocking. I would say about ninety eight to ninety nine percent of our legislators don't have any idea, what's going on? They do not know what real idea is. Oh, you mean that thing that makes it easier for me to travel. They don't even know that there's a star in the upper right corner. They don't know what that star signifies. It's an interesting, you know, disconnect. But these people don't have any idea. Ninety eight to ninety nine percent of all people in our capitals do not know what's going on right now in our country. So then you have to educate them. And we can't wait, we don't have another voting cycle. We have to educate them now. So, you know, cycling back to what you were saying about our responsibility, this is our responsibility and if we don't step up and bite for protect our freedom. Freedom, freedom is an idea, we're going to lose it and we're going to have earned that. You're you're absolutely right. You know, it's not lost on me that historically speaking, there was another regime that forced people to have a star on them didn't go so well. I'm trying to remember what regime that. Oh, that's right, it was the Nazis. Yeah, I don't think I want an id that I carry around with me that has a star on it, right. Yeah, I'm so glad you picked up on what I was putting down. Thank you very much. I don't know what it is with this bat with the star, but you know one is six pointed and the other one is five. It doesn't really matter to me. The fact is that you can identify whether you're in a digital gulog by whether you have a star in your upper right hand corner of your license. And I want to just put this in here just because it's important. There are eleven states where you cannot opt out. Those states should contact me so that we can get that repealed. But the other thirty nine states you can opt out, and you should. If you have a star in your upper right corner, get to the DMV and tell them you want a standard driver's license. Absolutely, do care whether you. Doggate it, your husband took it, it burnt down, and whatever you never wanted it to begin with. You know, get rid of it because you can in thirty nine states. And I have walked so many people through getting their standard driver's license back. Yeah, I think that's very good advice. And in fact, I want to turn this conversation into the education side of this and let's just start with how I started the show being angry at the TSA. One of the things that I want to educate people on is it just every time I fly and I watch the sheep and they're in their line, and the TSA agent calls them forward and they present their idea, and then they just stand there and get their picture taken, and right on it is a piece of paper that says this is optional. And every time I go up, I stand to the side. I literally stand to the side, so I can't take my photo, even though I understand that I'm getting photographed from every single camera in the place, but I still don't to do that at least, and I say, oh, can you No, I opt out. You can opt out, ladies and gentlemen, and that something as simple as that is part of the process in educating people and pushing back against the system. I know, I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm really glad you brought this up. I don't like traveling so much because I remember time that pre TSA people used to dress. You'd have great meals on a plane. It was a daring adventure, and now it's become cattle being you know, oh, and it's a nightmare. I can't stand it. So I have the same feeling. I share your feeling about plane travel. But when I go in, I take it as a you know, learning moment for the TSA people and for everyone around me. And I am that galp. I walk up and I say it loudly, no, thank you, and they look up at me because I'm giving them polite resistance and they say excuse me, and I say, no, no, I'm not going to get a retinal scan. This note that says that you don't keep that information. That's a lie. You keep everything. I don't even know why you bother doing that. Most of these people are mindless and they're not even reading that. But no, and I don't need to comply with your retinal scan, and no, I don't have a real ID. Here's my passport yep. And then they try to bully me, and I'll say right to them, are you trying to bully me? Good for you? I don't want to do. That, especially not a middle aged woman. Yeah. No, and using that to your advantage. So let's talk about a little bit more. Because you've said that there are other things that you can use in place of a digital idea, and obviously the passport is going to be the easiest one. That's something that you can just keep in your home and then when you have to travel, you bring it with you, so you're not constantly carrying your passport with you, and then as soon as you get back from your trip, it's back in. The safe where it belongs. But there are other things you can do as well, right, I believe you can get a notarized document that you can use to show them and that proves that you are who you are. Yeah, there are eleven or twelve, and I don't have them off the top of my head, but I actually read the list because I wanted to know. I promptly forgot them all because the only one really that matters is just your passport. Bring your passport. You can't use here's the thing to understand. You can't use a real ID to travel abroad, So you know, get your money out of your passport. You spent what one hundred bucks or whatever on your passport, Get your money and your value out of it, and just travel with it. When you go get on a plane, just bring your passport. It's what's there for and travel with it, you know, and I really resent the mainstream media obfuscation is really what it is, the lie by omission tactic where they tell you that you're going to get penalized if you don't get that real ID, but they don't tell you that you can fly with a passport still, they just emphasize that they're going to penalize you. It's not eighteen anymore, it's forty five. You know what. You don't have to pay any of that. Just bring your passport and you can fly easily. They can't stop you. Well, they're counting on the fact that the masses are not going to pay attention to the information that the government's actually providing, that they'll just here, get your real ID. And of course it's not lost on any of us that prior to the boondoggle of Christy Noman and her husband, if you want to call him a husband, I don't know, but she was on She was at every airport, every airport, gets your digital IDA with her plastic face out there and people are just Okay, I guess I need my digital or my real ID, my digital ID to fly to go see you know, my kids or my grandkids or whatever. It looks like, Yeah, I was in the DMV recently. I bought it. I just bought an analog car, and you know, proudly. And so I was there registering the car and there was this old man in the line next to me getting his real ID. I was like longing to save him because she was giving him a pile of you know, nonsense about why he needed it, and he was buying it, not questioning it. And every reason she gave him was so was senseless. It was It didn't impact the quality of his life. Not one bit. You know, why why did Americans? You know, we used to hold Ronald Reagan Reagan in such reverence. Uh, policy wise, I have some questions, but he had a statement of the most dangerous words in the English languages. I'm here from the government and I'm here to help, right, And we've forgotten that, and now we're just believing whatever the d m V agent says without question. We don't we don't even think about it. I wanted to go back to something you just said, because this is really important. You bought an analog vehicle. I want to talk about that, but I also want to bring up something else, and I'll ask you two questions. You can answer both of them in the same uh, in the same sentence. Here, I want to talk about MAGA and this house of cards of illegal immigration with the digital ID because we're being sold something here and I don't think people are paying attention. Yeah, it's kind. Of like they're using protecting children as a way to violate our privacy once and for all online forever. And they're using this illegal immigration thing, which they really got traction for with MEGA and you know, getting Trump into office as the reason to get to really push for real ID that I just heard from someone that their state, I don't remember which state it was, is talking about trying to force real ID on all their citizens in order to be able to vote at elections. And that is just pure and unmitigated nonsense. Like literally, I don't know a single human being in the United States of America who got a driver's license without showing the DMV their birth certificate and their Social Security card. You can't get any better than that in terms of proving your identity. So what exactly is the real push behind real ID that makes it more of a distinguishing factor of your identity than a driver's license? A regular standard driver's license. But people aren't asking these questions. There's okay, you know, and and moving along the line. Nobody wants to be that nail that's sticking out right. They don't want to get that hammer. No, I'm happy to be that nail. Not only am I happy to be that nail, but I'm educating everyone to. Be that nail. The more nails we've got out there, say why why? Exactly? What is the difference. The only difference between real ID and a standard driver's license is the platform on which the information is located. Absolutely, yeah, you're you're right now going back to the analog car because I just recently told my wife this, like, I don't care my next vehicle, and I don't have a new vehicle. I have an older vehicle, but it's it's still not totally analog. But I'm going back to like roll up windows. You know, I'm going to have a steering wheel that I like, Oh I'm yanking on it to turn. I'm gonna look like Popeye with my forearms. But that's what we're going to have to do if we don't want to get spied on. Well, not only that, I mean yes, so there's no surveillance in an analog vehicle. And if this fifteen minute city idea happens, you know, you could have your car because now you know, the Biden administration pushed for this kill switch in every car by twenty twenty five law, and. That law passed. And you know what's crazy is that you go into any dealership and the guys in the dealership, the sales guys, they don't even know that that law passed. But there is now a law that the United States government has a kill switch installed in every vehicle as of either twenty twenty five or twenty twenty six. I don't know, but if I own a car, I should have the ability to turn it on and turn it off. Yeah, I'm going to pay for it. I'm going to repair it, I'm going to ensure it, I'm going to register it. But I'm not going to be able to own it. Well, that means that the United States government owns my car. I want an analog car because I want to be able to own my car. You're absolutely right. I think that's such sound advice. What was once considered old will be new again. 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It's it's solutions oriented and so if you like that kind of content, please consider even ten dollars a month can help us keep the lights on. With that, let's go back to our guest, Hannah Roth reject DigitaliD dot org. And actually, as we bring Hannah back on, let's bring up the website because I I want to show people this, because this is a solution and we do need more people to get on board and start operating as a state leader for your organization. Hannah tell us a little bit more about your website. Okay, so this website is actually built to be useful. If you go to the homepage at the very top, it's a welcome note saying what the purpose of the website is and the information you can find and what's needed and what we need is to activate each and every state. The commitment is to have fifty state leaders this year generating demand from our legislators at the state level to ban number one for force compelled mandated real ID, then ban force compelled or mandated programmable money, and then three create laws that protect cash as legal tender. Those are our three mandates. That's what we're working on. That's what every state across the country is working on. And if you scroll down, you can see we have to update this because we have more leaders. But you can see stop right there. You can see that each state leader will then put together a core group, an administrative person, an outreach person, event person, and legislative people who will go to the capitol or have zoom calls with legislators to educate them about real ID and you know, creating laws, pathing laws that protect our freedom and not just a real idea, but programmable money and then if you don't want to be in the core group and you don't want to be a state leader, you can be a supporter and then just build that information out in the form on this website. It'll prompt you. You'll see as you go. And if you want to be a supporter and you want to you know, fund the cause, you can be a sponsor and then you can click on that information in the form. If you'll scroll up more, you'll be we'll be able to yeap whichever. Way scroll down, Chris, yep, yep. So there's the state and you can go if you'll go back up to the map, there's the map of the United States, and you can run your little mouth over it at your state and see if there is a leader. If there's not a leader, contact support and you'll be either put into a file where you'll wait until the state leader shows up and then you'll be connected with that state leader, or you can connect right with the state leader in your state. We have about a half a dozen state leaders on that map, and we've got a number of them more that need to be updated. But that's how you find out whether your state is a state leader or not. And then you click on that and go directly to a forum where you can fill out to connect with your state leader. If you have one. If you'll go down a little bit more, there you go contact support. So if you want to get in action, just click on that. It will send you to a form and you will be able to fill out the form and get in contact with the central office or with your state leader, depending on if you have one or not in your state. Now, if you go back up to the top of the website in the navbar, there is information. Is there a yep? Is that say research resources? Resources? Yeah, So if you click on resources you will have a very very lovely, simple, effective three minute video on what real ID is and what CBDC or stable coin or programmable money are. They're very informative, really well done by a number I've connected with a number of different groups around the country that are working on these issues, and CCHF out of Minnesota is doing some really great work and they produce the top video on real ID if you'll scroll down. Yeah, So there's education and there's tools and you can read your heart's content. All about real IDE. There. There's a sixty page white paper there, there's a summarized one page that you know is written in very simple, plain language. That's right. There are six facts, there's how to refuse, there's all the reasons why. So you can go through there and you can get yourself educated, and I strongly suggest that everyone do because you know, this is your freedom that we're talking about. What I love about this is it's so grass roots, Hannah. It's you know, you didn't say somebody ought to do something about this, or the government ought to do something about this. While the government is doing something, it's just not what we want them to do. But you just launched and you said we can get state leaders. We may not have everybody that we need right now, but we need to start tackling this problem, and people will flock to it because there is a lot of concern here. And so I want people to explore the website reject DigitaliD dot org and go through all this, start reading it. That one page that you have there, that's a great place. That little three minute video. Actually watched it prior to the interview. It's incredibly well done. It's very easy to understand, and I think people will after watching just a three minute video. If you have that attention span. I hope you do that you'll understand the dangers associated with this movement. Yeah, and that's what we did. We really wanted to make it as simple and easy and digestible as possible, because this is admittedly an incredibly complicated issue, and it can be so daunting that you just you know, like deer in the headlights and you tune out and you move on with life. But this is so crucial and it's fundamental to our freedom that we understand these two issues. They are back to back, going to put us in a prison from which we will never be able to get out. Now, for you know, people our age, that's not such a bad thing, because you know, we've got half a life for less than half. But how about for our children, how about for our grandchildren? You know, what are we doing if we're not doing anything to protect their freedom? You're absolutely what it's really. Talking about here. So yeah, and you know, it's really it's very interesting because it doesn't matter whether I'm talking to blue or I'm talking to red. Once people get that this is really all about freedom, the language of blue and the language of red fall away and we start talking about the real what's at stake here, which is you know, human freedom and everyone you know, and I'm talking about it at the capitol. I'm talking about with people on either side of the aisle. It doesn't matter. Once people get that this is about freedom itself, the whole conversation changes. And there were ways. I love how you phrase that the language of blue in the language of red. Well, Chris and I unfortunately live in Washington State, and so I joke that we're behind enemy lines. Now, look, if you're a state leader in Washington State and you want to talk about the dangers of digital ID, you're not approaching it from a libertarian conservative perspective. You're maybe going to the legislators and talking about the plight of immigrants. But that's how you get in the door, and that's how you can get the state to reject a digital ID. Yes, exactly, And that's how we've discovered it has to be done. When you're talking to blue legislators, you have to talk in blue language. When you're talking to red legislators, you have to talk in red language. Otherwise they're so polarized they can't hear you until they finally do. So if you talk in their language, they can hear you, and then they can finally get down to know what at the bottom of the stack, which is freedom. And once we've gotten to freedom, well it becomes a bipartisan issue because that is. Exactly what it is. You're absolutely right. I want to turn the conversation to we haven't done enough due diligence on a central bank digital currencies. And I love that you called out Donald Trump for banning these but then bringing in the stable coin. And honestly, fans of this show, I've talked a lot about my distrust of bitcoin because I see personally Bitcoin as the catalyst to this entire conversation. Uh, the bitcoin was the forerunner. Get people used to this idea of a digital currency. Then pull the rug out from bitcoin and now it's stable coin. It's something that's backed by a central bank. Oh look at that. Now everything we do purchase, uh, is going to have to run through that digital system, and it is tyranny. Yeah. You know, I've wondered often if Bitcoin wasn't just a trojan horse and the whole Satoci story, you know, the Thoci story sounds like it was like made up around some you know, conference table in the CIA. Well, you know what, you know what Satoshi Nakamoto mean in Japanese, right, central intelligence, that's what his name. That's what his name means in Japanese. So yeah, they were telling us without telling us there was a wink in a nod. Oh my god, that's too funny. I didn't know that. Yeah, well you just confirmed. You know, it's a it's a trojan horse. Get everyone interested in dealing with blockchain technology, and if you get us interested in normalize it enough, well then we can just put it into. The driver's life. Then we can put it into the money, and then we can. You know, create some black Swan event where you know, you lose all your money and you know, your accounts go to zero, and oh but we'll save you, The government will save you. You know, just take it in programmable money and we'll completely replenish your account. Yeah, and then it's insidious. You're you're going to tip your hat at them, honestly, like they've thought of everything. I know, it's an impeccable design. You know, too bad that they ran COVID on us and woke up about fifty percent of the population. You know, that is I've said this so many times on the show that COVID had silver linings, and I'm not trying to downplay. Look, I reject a lot of the official narrative of COVID, but I don't deny that there were people that did die from this was it was a bio weapon and tensionally released. But their silver lining was exactly what you just said, so many people woke up to it. If they would have had all this in place, the digital idea, the programmable money during COVID, we might be having this conversation in a re education camp. Yeah. Yeah, the vaccine passport would have definitely taken off if they had had this back then. They just got a little bit too ahead of themselves, you know, and. You know, blew it. But in the process, you know, I remember an interview with Andrew Wakefield who was talking to someone about, you know, do you think that you know, COVID made any difference? And he said, are you kidding? We used to be a fringe discussion about vaccine you know, destruction. And he said, now, and it maybe was ten percent of the population was talking about vaccine injury. He says, now easily fifty percent of the population is familiar with vaccine injury, and it's no longer a conspiracy theory. So I think that COVID was you know, I do think that there were silver linings, and you're absolutely right. People did die from that bioweapon, and people then died from the bioweapon to counteract the bioweapon, you know. So and there's nothing you know, there's no joke about that, but you know, there is a silver lining to it, and I think it is that people are getting organized, people are waking up, and people are realizing, and this is really important, there is. No one that's going to save us, our government. We're paying them to surveil us, we're paying them to turn us into their new enemy. You're absolutely right, and we're just living applauding us. Exactly. If we're going to save ourselves, we've got to get started because they're way ahead. But what they lack are the numbers. Yeah, So people who are sitting on the sidelines in this learned helplessness need to get off of the sidelines and get into action and understand that we're the heroes that are going to save the day. We're the people that we're waiting for, and we need to wake up. We need to get into action, and we need to organize, and we need to follow what our constitution has laid out for us as the action that we need to take in order to It's all laid out, educate and demand. And here I just had a conversation with one of my state leaders this morning. She was talking about, you know, do you really think we can do this? And they've got so much money, and I said, yes, but what Trump's money every time are the billions of us There are two things that motivate politicians and they're all based on getting re elected. One is money and the other is votes. And votes are more important than money at the end of the day because millions can be given to politicians who still lose. Yeah, voters sway everything. And you've got to understand, no matter how corrupt the voting system is that when politicians are demanded upon by enough constituents, they have to perform or they lose their job. I think that's incredibly well said, and we just need. To learn that. We need to speak up. We need to stop being intimidated. We need to literally, as Katherine Austin Fitz says, we need to get off the couch and get into action, and that is the reason why I built rejectdigitalid dot org. Yeah, and fantastic. We run out of time here, but I want to go back once again to reject digital id dot org. Chris will bring that up for the audience, because I want you, guys, whether you're you're watching this program or just listening on one of the multiple podcast apps that we're on, get on this website, like, make a note, make a mental note, I don't care, write it down, whatever you can do, send yourself a text reject DigitaliD dot org and go explore this website. Hannah, it's been an absolute pleasure having you on. I'd love for you to have any last words for the audience. Caleb your joy. I really appreciate you. Thank you so much for having me on. People contact us, get into action, save your state, save yourself, save your children, save your grandchildren. Amen. So well said. There again, Hanna, I'm gonna ahead and close this out. If you hold on one more minute post production to sayah goodbyes, I'd appreciate it. But again, thank you so much for coming on Church and State, and thank you for all your work just looking and seeing a problem and saying I'm going to do something about that. I can't tell you how much I appreciate that. Thank you, Caleb, you too. Absolutely all right, ladies and gentlemen, there you go. The power is in your hands. Are you going to take it? Or are you just going to sit apathetically on your couch, eating your popcorn and watching as this country slips further and further into decay. I, for one, I reject that idea, and I believe that there are enough of us out there that we can actually make a difference. I really hope that we can. I really hope that enough people have heard this message and say I ain't doing it anymore. Church and State is brought to you in part by Colonial Life, Spokane Independent Agents, Finders Insurance, and Mark three to seven dot Com. I'm Caleb Collier. I was born for a storm. Welcome to the five. 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