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Spokane Valley could become a sanctuary city. A different housman, Caleb Collier says that this I'm. Proposing that the city of Spokane Valley issue a proclamation stating that our city is a second amendment of sanctuary. Welcome to the fire today on Church and State. Few think to ask the question, Hello Christian patriots, and welcome to Church and State, where we drive morality and religion over tolerance and apathy. And I'm your host, Caleb Callier, once again, your favorite far right shock jock and the show that talks about politics and religion. Jesus Christ is our referee, so it's always nice and clean. Now as the I mean, per the drill, you know how it goes. 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I personally believe people need to hear this type of a message, not left, not right, maybe far right, but as somebody who just questions just is inquisitive, and that's me. I don't raw raw raw, and I don't just buy the status quo what the propagandas are telling us. I think more and more people need to hear a message like that. You can help us do it. It's something as small as ten dollars a month can get us there. And lastly, if you want to get a hold of us, Church and State seventeen seventy six at Proton dot me with that, here we go another fun day in the studio. I can tell you I was driving in today and right now one of the school districts where I live. They've got a bond up, bonds and levees, you know these things, and I hate them. I gotta tell you. I hate them. Sometimes gets people angry at me, but I despise them, and I tell people all the time, vote no. If you look at your tax records, at you're your property tax just look at how many self imposed taxes you have on your property. Telling you every single couple years, right, it's just vote for this levey, you vote for this bond, the library, the police department, the fire departments, the schools. Right, and all of a sudden you start adding these up. It's death by a thousand cuts, and you're doing it to yourself. I always tell people, and especially when it comes to the schools, let's look at their track record. You want us to put more money into the public school system that is intentionally dumbing down our children, bringing in cultural Marxism, bringing in transgender theory and studies. You want us to fund that, But every single year it's the same thing, right, do it for the kids. It's for the children. Hey, they use their scare tactics. If we don't get this, we're going to start cutting things after school activities and sports. You know what, guys show us that you can actually teach our children and maybe then we'll start feeling generous. So it gets me all kind of spun up. I get a little bit angry. But I noticed something else. Now, this school district has obviously got a lot of money, enough money to pay for all of these signs dotting the landscape. That costs money, all right, But they put them up all over the place. And some intrepid citizen went out there and all he had was plywood and spray paint, and he put signs right next to all of these, very very nice, very elaborate support this school bond levee. He wrote vote no in plywood and spray paint. Nothing fancy, nothing beautiful. But boy do I love this person. I love them because that's the kind of people I want to see all across America, the people who just look and say, I hate this thing too. I don't support this. I don't want my taxes to go up. So I'm gonna go out my own time. I'm gonna take plywood out of the scrapyard, get some spray paint, and write a simple message. See, ladies and gentlemen, we don't have to be as organized as they are. In fact, we probably never will be. But individual citizens going in and standing for what they believe in man, that's the right thing to do, and it can be extremely powerful. So to that individual, I don't even know if you listen to this show, but I tip my hat to you. All right from there, I've got some strange friends, Christmas. Is that fair to say that? Because I'm kind of a strange guy, I'm gonna attract strange friends. Uh? Sounds reasonable? Yeah, sounds reasonable. Yes, Although we did have that discussion about every friend group has the one odd person in it, and we realized that was me, which is I still don't know how I feel about that. I was kind of wondering if are they really strange or they just maybe they're just strange to me? To you, yes, that could be it. That could be accurate. But he plays around with AI a lot, and he's got one of these image makers and he sent me a photo just the other day and I had to share it with the audience because it made me chuckle. What he has is he asked AI to take Caleb Callier and Tucker Carlson and arrange them together to make this new creature that I'm affectionately calling Caleb Carlson. It looks pretty good, hun, Chris, would you listen to that guy. I think I'd listened to that guy. Yeah, I don't know. It looks kind of chilly. Well, unlike Tucker Carlson, I don't have any Cia in the family tree, so maybe that makes me a little bit better. I don't know. I mean, I like Tucker. I listened to him. I don't always agree with him, but I tell you, his journey right now is pretty incredible to watch. Props to anyone. There's there's some little hidden clues here. As far as Easter eggs, thank you, Chris. Yes, as far as who I am, Chris didn't know this. I'll ask the audience who's that superhero behind me? Or I should say Caleb Carlson is who is that superhero? I know Caleb also has his symbols on his lapel he does. Yes, he's got the blue fedora and the tie as well there, which really looks sharp. I gotta say, I think if I ever go back to wearing suits, I might need to get something like that. But most people are not going to know this. This is a rather obscure character from DC named the Question, and he is my all time favorite superhero. I want to know why. I'll show you go ahead, Chris. Reaching back to ancient Egypt, there's been a single cabal of powerful individuals directing the course of human history, but the common man prefers to believe they don't exist, which aids their success. Global warming, military upheoples in the Third World, actors elected to public office. The spread of coffee bars, germs out pacing, antibiotics, and boy bands. Come on, who would gain from all this? Who? Indeed, what does any of this have to do with my dreams? If I'm right, you're part of it, You're going to need my help. I'm going with you. Hold your horses. No one asks for more help. This whole trip might just prove the kids you need not Joes before bed. Peanut butter sandwiches. How did what do you go through my trash? Please? I go through everyone's trash? Ah, I absolutely love it. Please I go through everyone's trash. He's the resident conspiracy theorist in the DC universe, and this is from the cartoon Justice League Unlimited. You know what, I know some of you are like shaking your heads to me right now. You know what, Chris, You're gonna back me up on this. A man is never too old to enjoy a good cartoon, all right, yes, umm, you know it. You know you still like a couple of cartoons out there, you'll watch them. I'm really disillusioned with pretty much all of commercial television right now, but I could still enjoy a cartoon. You enjoyed that cartoon, didn't you? After watching that? When we were putting this show together, you were like, Okay, that guy is pretty cool. Grudgingly, uh huh, exactly. Yes, you see the question. He has no face, right, he's just blank. But he's the conspiracy theorist and he's asking the questions, and you know what, he gets proven right throughout the series. He gets proven right. And that's why I want all of us to be like that, to ask the question, to consider the different possibilities, to explore, to not always be of this mindset. There are so many talk show hosts out there that will be like, I'm always right, and I never claim that. I never say I'm always right. I present theories to you and I tell you to investigate, and I hope you take me up on that. I don't come on here ranting and raving, pretending that I am all wise, that maybe I should be like this naar type person. Some people are profits for me. I have the gifts or the word of knowledge and the words of wisdom, and no one is more wise than me. You heard of Solomon chump Change. Come on, no, I don't act like that because I'm not that guy. I'm not the wisest person. I read a lot and I look behind the curtain, and you need to do the same thing. You need to turn off the Fox News and the CNN. You need to stop doom scrolling on social media. Hey, all of a sudden, you're scrolling direction. You're like, man, I am amazed at how many people think just like me. You're in the algorithm. Do you not see that? They figured you out there watching you? So of course they're going to present an echo chamber for your beliefs, because that's how they compartmentalize us, put us in our little camps and never let us out. This is why I tell you go talk to people you don't agree with, and above all else ask the question with that. I also want to explain one other thing because some of you, anyway, I think I might be hard to figure out. Perhaps Chris, am I hard to figure out? Am I just like a contrarian. That is that who I am. You're like a question wrapped in a enigma or something. Yes, yes, good quote. I just I just don't my government. When it really comes down to it, I just want to get in my killdozer, and I just want to smash into the halls of government. It's not a threat. I'm not actually gonna do it. But boy, my daydreams. You would like my daydreams, Chris. They're they're quite rambunctious, sounds disturbing ladies and gentlemen. I've told you so many times that I'm a libertarian, but specifically a men archist, Okay, and I always want to reiterate not I didn't say monarchist. Menarchist, Okay, minimal government. That's what I want, something even more extreme to what our founding fathers gave us, a true night watchman state. And so what I do on this show is I go after who's ever in charge? Okay, Yes, have I been putting a greater emphasis on Trump as of late, Sure, but go back and watch the episodes when Biden was president. Okay, because I was doing it when Biden was president. Go back and watch when Donald Trump was president. The first time. That's right around when I started this. I always go after the people in power, because right now what we have is a feckless legislative branch. Those guys can't fight their way out of paper bag. There's a few ones. I just just listened to Rand Paul absolutely smoking Mark Rubio on going into Venezuela. There's a few decent ones in there, but the vast majority of them, they're all bought. I mean, we've come to this conclusion, haven't we. Haven't we realized that Republican Democrat doesn't really matter. They're all getting money from groups like APAC to support war efforts in countries that we don't belong in. All right, every single one of them is voting no to release the Epstein files. And you like how the cycle goes. Right when Biden was in office, the Democrats were like, no, No, who's Epstein? Never even heard of Epstein? Who's this Epstein character you keep talking about? And what did the Republicans do under Donald Trump as he was running. We're going to release the Epstein files day one. It's going to be huge, all right. And now it's flipped on its head, and now the Democrats can carry that torch because all of them know that it's never going to see the light of day. That doesn't mean we don't keep talking about it. Of course we do because it's important. But they're playing a game. It's theater, and so many of us are falling pre to it. It's we're defending our own captors. We've got massive Stockholm syndrome going on over here where we believe just because that's our people. I'm a Republican and that's those are ours. They're always the good guys until they're not, until people like Mike Pence. Come on, Now he's a Neil con, but before we liked him. This is the cycle. And if you're a Democrat, always support the D's every time. Eric swaball whoop. We don't really want to talk about him. Let's talk about the candidates because Orange Man's bad, so we gotta we gotta talk about candidates that are gonna beat him. We're gonna take back the House, take back the Senate. And the cycle continues, rinse and repeat, and our overlords laugh all the way to the bank because they're stealing all of your money and slaving you or going through massive surveillance, and we're arguing over the scraps instead of actually holding our representatives accountable. That's what's going on in this country, and I'm so sick of it. I just want to if as an American citizen, I just want to live under the Constitution, under the Bill of Rights. Look, they may not even be perfect, but I can tell you this, if we actually lived under that system, the freedom that we would enjoy would be fantastic. We wouldn't have income tax and property tax and death tax. We'd be able to replace politicians if they ever dishonored their oath. It would be speedy. We wouldn't be constantly harassed, which is something that they talk about in the Declaration of Independence. It's one of the grievances the King at this point, it's not much different than today, but has brought in all of these different bureaucrats I'm paraphrasing, to harass the people and eat out their substance. It's one of the grievances. And look around you. Everywhere you turn, there's some bureaucrat. There's some red tape you got to cut through just to do things like building on your own property in addition to your home, collecting rainwater, which is illegal in most of the West Coast collecting rainwater. This is the kind of stuff that we're dealing with, and we're arguing over the minor things. The reality is like, and gentlemen, the issues that they tease us with. Those politicians don't care. You really think Republicans and Democrats care all that much about gay marriage, about even abortion? They don't. They don't, but they keep us arguing about it, back and forth, back and forth. Meanwhile, they've completely enslaved us, and we don't even see it. Look. I know sometimes I may be confusing, and some of you may not like hearing some of the things that I'm saying, but we got to talk about it. We gotta have these discussions. When Trump does an image of himself as Jesus and then now I was a doctor and then wait, I didn't even post that. Can't even get the story straight. We as Christians, we're going to call that out. And we got to look for the people who are the quislings, who are the traders to our faith, who dismiss it, who argue against us. Oh, and that the the arguments, the debates. Oh so you were fine when Obama did this who said that. I didn't say that, but of course you use that line of thinking, that line of argument, because it puts you on a high horse. And I pointed out that they've been doing it over and over and over again for forever. Why because they want you to worship the state. So of course they're going to show Obama and Trump as the messiah because you have been created to worship something. They know this, and so what do they do. They manufacture a savior for you and you fall all to your knees and worship before the beast. Look, it's ugly, but it's reality, and we gotta start calling and out, we gotta start addressing it, and we got to start taking a hard look at our belief system that has been manufactured through propaganda. This is a sad reality. But don't worry. I may be the guy that's gonna call you out of that, or at least make you ask some questions. But I'll be doing it the whole time with a big smile on my face. Why because they see humor in it. With that, let's get into some more of the topics at hand. As it were. Let's talk about false flags, because obviously all of you have been paying attention to the news cycle, and the biggest thing out there right now is of course the Iranian war. But don't call it the Iranian war because it's not a war. That's what they say anyway. But we are currently in a skirmish with the Iranian government and it's all centered around this Strait of Hormuz right now, of course, because we've got it on lockdown, they've got it on lockdown. It's back and forth we're in currently as of today, April twenty first, we are well, we're in a stalemate where peace agreement right, no hostilities currently, but that's going to change. I think we all recognize the fact that there's no way that this peace deal is going to continue. There are even reports, I don't know how credible they are, but there are reports that Trump just this weekend went ballistic and wanted to use the nukes, wanted to go after the Iranians and drop a nuke on them. This is according to numerous peoplelongline, and that one of the generals actually stood his ground and wouldn't allow Trump to do so. Like I said, I don't know how credible that is, but what I do know what I'm predicting is that there'll be another false flag. I think with everything going on there and the amount of our warships that are currently in the ocean surrounding the Strait of Hormuz, I think we could very easily see a false flag event to drag us into the war because we've seen this over and over again. You see the American people, they're kind of focused internally right now and with right now what's going on. Most of us are focused on gas prices because if you fueled up lately, especially in Washington State. Not in Washington State, I have it. Yeah, you drive to Idaho, don't you? Of course? Yeah, we have the benefit where our location where we can just drive about fifteen minutes right into Idaho and get much cheaper gas. But even their gas is still pretty expensive. Yeah, it's rough out there, it is. And that is eating out our substance, is it not. Right now, people are having the hard question, am I gonna drive that family vacation we were gonna We're gonna drive to South Dakota and see Mount Rushmore this summer. I don't know if we can to afford it anymore. People on planes, the price of tickets are going up. Why because trickle down economics, right, because the plane now to fuel, that plane is costing more, so of course they're passing that on to the customer. The company's not gonna eat that. So most people are focused on that. So the war is largely unpopular with your average citizen. Of course, there are some the warhawk mentality of let's go turn it into a parking lot. I just knew all we're ready. And then there's the other side that's like, doesn't matter, doesn't even matter if we got attacked Orange Man's just bad. But the bulk of the people in the middle, they're just frustrated by the gas prices and they don't want to get engaged in another war. So what are they gotta do. They got to make the American people believe in the war effort. And what did we see. We saw it with Bush, Bush Junior and Bush Senior. We saw weapons of mass destruction. We saw babies and incubators. We saw it with FDR with Pearl Harbor when he had advanced knowledge. He knew that the Japanese armada was coming right at Pearl Harbor, and he let it happen. Why because the American people wanted to stay out. In fact, the FDR kind of ran on that, didn't he. But once we get bombed, of course, now we got to do something. We saw it with nine elefe. You either with us or you with the terrorists. Surprised he was able to utter those words. Most of the time, it was just mumbo jumbo. He was like the first Biden. There's going to be one again. They're going to do something. Bomb one of our own ships, Gulf of Tonkins type of incident, get us into Vietnam. Something's got to change the American public mindset to where we will all say, okay, we were attacked, and we don't get attacked. Now it's time for us to roll up our sleeves and get busy in this war effort to send our young men and women to a foreign soil to die for democracy. Something's going to happen, ladies and gentlemen. I don't exactly know what it is. I'm not the guy that's going to say prophetic utterances. I've got a plan. It's downloaded, good, and I'm sharing it with all of you. No, I'm not saying that, but I'm saying watch for it. Because my prediction is something will happen. Something has got to happen to get all of us on the same side of this so that we can go and fight another war, this time in Iran. From there. Who knows. I mean, we've already talked about wanting to go into Cuba. Maybe I'm completely wrong in my location. Maybe it'll be something in Cuba. We got to go in there next. I don't know where, I don't know how, but I know something's come in our direction and I want you to all be aware of it. Now. Look, we're winding down here and I've got a lot more to cover. Chris and I are. Actually we're gonna do a little bit of battle here, you see, Chris Uh. Chris doesn't necessarily always agree with me, and I like that. I appreciate it. I like to surround myself with people who are going to say no, no, no, look at it this way, and maybe I will, or well I usually do, maybe I'll still say no, I still believe this. But you're gonna want to come back because we're gonna be talking a lot about Trump as soon as the break ins. This is Caleb calli'er with Church and State. Are you tired of your device spying on you. Ladies and gentlemen. We live in nineteen eighty four. Your phones, your tablets, your smart televisions, they all are spying on you. And this is why I heavily endorse Mark thirty seven dot com. This is everything you need for your digital privacy. Phones, tablets, laptops. All of them are ghost protocols, so that means that you are in charge of your own data. 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If I simply would have been like I'm a conservative and give me the Republican talking points, I could have been on radio is probably all over the place, right, I'm a halfway decent looking guy. I've got a gift for the gab. Here we go, what what Chris? My mom says, I'm a decent looking guy, but I do I got a gift for the gab, and I could have been all over the place, but I don't care, you know, because you remember when it was his name Ricky gerveris Ricky Gervais. Yes, you remember when he was invited to be on the Academy Awards or whatever it was. I don't pay attention to that kind of stuff. But and he just let loose, like he just annihilated them. And the camera kept panning to these actors and they're like, He's like, I don't care if Epstein's your friend, you know, And they're like, that's how I feel about talk radio, Like half of you were on here, because you never know what I'm gonna say next. I want to be that guy. I want to be the guy not invited back because I spit too much truth. And if that means then I'm just always going to be at a little bit of a lower level. And the people who are selling out, so be it. But for any of you, you find it refreshing. I'm like a breath of fresh air. Chris Wow, Yes, so you like it, hit the dummy button. Keep us on the air, all right, with DA Let's go back into the stories, the topics at hand, and let's see what we got here. I want to talk about Candace Owns. I've already brought up Tucker Carlson, Chris, I might as well talk about Candace Owns as well, right. As well? I mean with the MAGA community, they're gonna be like, well, this tells us everything we need to know about this guy. He's got Tucker Carlson, he's got Candace Owens. Never interviewed either one of them would like to. And as I often tell you, guys, I don't agree with everything they say, but they bring up some interesting points. And candas Owns posted this on x. Trump is now telling MAGA that we should agree to give up our rights for the greater good. He wants us to agree to allow the federal government to spy on us via Faiza. Anyone's still supporting this man as a fraud. He has done a full one eighty on MAGA and is a warhawk neo con. But she was not pulling any punch, is she? Well what you're referencing? She's referencing Donald Trump on too true social and what does he say. I am working very hard with our great Speaker Mike Johnson, along with Chairman Jim Jordan and Chairman Rick Crawford, to have to get a clear extension of FISA seven oh two through the House of Representatives this week. I am asking Republicans to unify and vote together on the test vote to bring a clean bill to the floor. We need to stick together when this bill comes before the House Rules Committee today to keep it clean. When the dirty cop James Comey, the failed head of the FBI, went after me, he was using FISA Title I, the domestic collection, not FIZA seven oh two, the foreign collection, which needs to be extended today. While parts of FISA were illegally and unfortunately used against me in the Democrats disgraceful witch hunt and attack in the Russia Russia Russia hoax, and perhaps would be used against me in the future. This is the part she underlined. I am willing to risk the giving up of my rights and privileges as a citizen for our great military and country. Our military patriots desperately need FIS the seven oh two and is one of the reasons that we have had such tremendous success on the battlefield. I've spoken with many in our military who say FIS it is necessary in order to protect our troops overseas as well as our people here at home from the threat of foreign terror attacks. It has already prevented many such attacks, and it is very important that it remains in full force and effect. Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J. Trump. How about no? How about absolutely not. You will never find this host what your Chris's slappiness face already, You will never find this host agreeing to warrantless wire taps on American citizens. I don't care. I'll tell you all the time. I will take dangerous freedom. I will not knowingly agree to live as a slave. And I hate hate what he put on here. I am willing to risk the giving up of my rights and privileges as a citizen for our great military and country. You see what they do here. It's an extension of what I was talking about in the beginning of the episode. What was I talking about? For the kids? You got to vote for the school levy for the kids. You got to agree to being spied on by your own government for our great military and our great country. What made our country great is the fact that we were unique as a nation and that we didn't do this kind of stuff. You look throughout history, you have the Nazis and the Stasi and the communists, and what did they all do, every single one of them, they spied on their own citizens. Was that freedom? Was that a quality? I guess they were all equal, and the fact that they were all getting spied on. This isn't freedom, ladies and gentlemen. This is slavery wrapped up in the feel good message of we're doing it for the troops, We're doing it for the country. If you don't do this, do you even bleed red, white and blue? And that's troubling to me, It's extremely troubling. But this is the man leading the country supposedly the freest in the world, and yet in reality we're slaves. We're slaves to debt, we're slaves to government tyranny, to spying on us. This isn't what I signed up to defend. But this is not who are representatives. This is not the kind of agenda that they should be promoting. Because I guarantee you this, they're not being spied on at the high levels. They're not being spied on, their messages, aren't tracked who they're meeting with. But every single one of us just voluntarily accept this. Chris, you were you were a little upset with me on this one. No, you're fine, okay, You're you're okay with this one. Well, I mean it's not either or okay, it's you want to have a military with no intelligence. Oh, I didn't say that intelligence is definitely important, but when turned upon its own citizens. And he says right there that this is FIZA seven oh two, which is separate from FAIZA Title one. He does say that, but he goes on to explain that it was illegally used against him, but he's willing to risk it. Seven oh two wasn't used against him. Seven oh two was used against him. He says it right here. The FBI went after me using fi as a title one, the domestic collection, not fis a seven oh two the title. I understand that while parts of FISA were illegally and unfortunately used against me, it was used against him to do. The Russia, not the part that's being voted on here. Well, but with the Russia hoax, it was the seven oh two, because it was foreign countries. Oh okay, that's what he's saying there, So it was it was used against him, But it's a risk he's willing to take. I'm just saying, Look, I understand that we do need intelligence about what's going on in foreign nations, but perhaps we wouldn't have to use that so much if we earn't this Warhawk machine with bases in almost all of the countries throughout the world. Perhaps if we turned it into currently became a little bit more isolationist, maybe this wouldn't be as big of a concern. Oh. I mean, I'm all with you on a on a tyranny bad. I like it all Right. From there, let's go into something else because we had and Chris actually sent me this, and I don't know if we're going to get through all of it because it's a very long video, but I want you to hear just the beginning parts of this. This woman has an interesting take on what's going on in the strait of her moves. Go ahead, Chris. Yesterday, President Trump put the empire unnoticed. With this post. This is world extortion, and leaders of countries, especially the United States, will never be extorted that's not a threat, that's an exposure. That's a man who was named a hidden game, a game fought in the shadows for decades. And here's what this president sounds like when he knows he has won this round. Make a deal or not makes no difference to me. And the reason is because we've won. But from my standpoint, I don't care. And here's what he's demanding. They haven't left the bargaining table. I predict they come back and they give us everything we want. And I tell my people I want everything. I don't want ninety percent. I don't want ninety five percent. I told them I want everything. They have no cards. That is the verdict of a president who hasn't just changed the outcome, he's changed the board itself. Now right now on social media, there are people, including some who voted for Trump, who are calling for the twenty fifth Amendment, saying he's lost it, he's reckless. He started a ward nobody wanted, and now he's telling us he doesn't care whether we win or lose. Well, here's what they're missing. Iran is not the target. Iran is a node, a piece on the board. The British Empire has managed for over a century. And the President's real target is the infrastructure of imperial control itself, the financial choke points, the energy dependencies, the offshore banking apparatus. He's naming it, and he's forcing a hidden war into the daylight where it can finally be fought and won. I'm Susan Cokinda and I've watched them the shadows for over. A That's an interesting take, and I'm not even going to suggest that I think she's completely wrong. The British Crown and imperialism does control quite a bit. They didn't end at when they gave back territories throughout the entire world. The whole analogy of the sun never sets on the British Empire. Did they actually give up? Did they give the countries back their sovereignty? I would argue, you know, in fact, the control it just went underground. It wasn't out in the open for the people to see. So in a lot of ways, I would completely agree with this woman. Now, do I believe that Trump is attacking this No, I think he's a part of it. And this is perhaps where many, certainly probably my producer over here, would disagree with me. But I when I look at Donald Trump, I see somebody that is pursuing the agenda of the globalists in this Chris, go ahead and comment. No, no, you're dumb. Were you like becoming a leftist? Like it's like an argument, No, you're stupid. It does sound like, don't know. It's a complex issue. And I don't have your silver tongue. So yes, my silver tongue. I think it's blue right now. Yeah, a little bit blue from the medical silver. There you go. No, I would say that overthrowing the old establishment and being globalist are not necessarily incompatible. Okay, I mean I can I can understand. Great reet By definition is they're throwing out the old economic system and replacing it with a nuance. And I mean that economic system is the system of control of the British Empire and the City of London. I definitely agree. I would say the City of London, with the banking power that it had has I think that has lessened considerably over the last few decades. At the very least, I would say most of the money. Has actually collecting all our taxes. They are, but I would say that it is transferred more towards the United States. In this case, I think I think the power moved. I think I think you've been swayed by the illusion. Certainly possible, it's the realm of possibilities that I could be wrong. As I tell the audience all. The time, who runs our military, Yeah, NATO, Oh yeah, yeah. A fair point. United Nations as well has a lot of a say in what we're doing, what militaries around the world are doing. But it is part of that whole globalist structure. Do I think that Donald Trump identified it? Yes, yes, I do. I think because there was an organic ground swelling of American citizens who had started to realize things, had started to realize all is not is not good in the United States, all is not great within our power structure here. I think he rode that wave. But I think the engineered a savior, as I was talking about earlier, the person exactly who we needed, wanted, believed we needed, and sure it looked good in the beginning. I will admit, even though I didn't vote for Donald Trump in twenty sixteen, it's historias sway. I mean, perhaps that's why I voted for him in twenty twenty four. He started to sway me that maybe maybe there is hope. Maybe it was because I was going around and being part of a Reawaken America tours and hearing all these individuals that were saying, hey, this is hope. Meeting Cash Btel and believing that, Hey, when he got in, I was like, Yeah, we got one of our own guys in. Things are going to change. Now we got an alcoholic who doesn't know what he's doing, apparently in Cash Btel as the leader of the FBI. But I'm looking at the patterns, is what I'm looking at. I'm looking at the things that are being done, and I don't see some grand scheme. I don't see some five D chests that's playing out. I see an individual that was manufactured, much like Pierre Polly whatever his name was in Canada and the guy from Argentina with a chainsaw. Meanwhile, what's going on in Argentina now not good things. I see that the whoeverever you want to call them, the elitist, bang globalists, I don't care what you call them, but I see them watching what's happening organically and then manufacturing somebody to put in as their savior. And I'm sorry, I see that in Donald Trump and I see them. I mean, they don't really care if you're identifying the end that Bank of London is the enemy. They don't care if the Bank of London gets completely scrubbed, gets completely axed, because their solution that they've already manufactured, in fact, multiple solutions, depending on what's going on organically with the people. Whatever solution we come to, it's going to be one that they engineered. Maybe I'm a skeptic, but I'm a happy skeptic with that. Let's go to the last one because we're actually going a little bit long on today's episode. Some people got mad at me, as I said earlier about the Donald Trump photo, you know, the infamous one of Donald Trump as Jesus not a doctor. But Chris sent me this and it's a different take on it. I figured, let's play it, let's er it and see and discuss. Go ahead, Chris, I know, I know, I know. I'm supposed to be outraged because the moral outraged crowd tells me that I'm supposed to be outraged, and yet I'm having a really hard time finding a reason to be outraged because I learned a very long time ago that literally everything Donald Trump says and does, and the public square is strategic. Everything, every post is strategic. Every time that he holds a press gaggle outside of Air Force one or outside the White House, literally every word that he uses is meant to be strategic. Everything is strategic. So when he posts things that seem like maybe they're going over the line I learned a long time ago, instead of being outraged, the question I should probably ask is what exactly is he trying to get us to pay attention to? And the other problem is I can't really figure out what I'm supposed to be upset about in this picture. Is it the American symbolism in the photograph? Is it the military veterans and active duty military? Is it the nurse that's with them? Is it the young lady praying along with Donald Trump as he lays hands on the sick? Is that what I'm supposed to be upset about. See? The problem is I've actually read my Bible, and I don't know if you know this or not, but we are all supposed to be laying hands on the sick. As a matter of fact, it says it right here in the Great Commission, verse eighteen. They will take up serpents, and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them, and they will lay hands on the sick and they will recover. Yes, that means me and you and the President of the United States is also included in the Great Commission where we're supposed to be laying hands on the sick, a sick and broken nation. But Patriot Dad, don't you know that it's blasphemy depict yourself as Jesus. Wait, you think that's supposed to be a depiction of Jesus for the Monday morning armchair Bible scholar group. Show me anywhere in scripture where Jesus is depicted wearing a gleaming white robe and a red cap. Show me, because there's ample evidence of Jesus wearing a resurrected white robe, and in Revelations there's also evidence of him reappearing wearing a blood soaked robe. But nowhere in there is Jesus ever depicted wearing a white tunic and a red cap. But you know who is depicted like that? These people, that's right, these folks, the ones that Donald Trump was actively engaged in a back and forth on because the Pope decided to insert himself into politics right after a meeting with Obama Lackey's and came out and condemned our activities in Iran, which is really weird because I went to look through the Pope's messages and I didn't seem to find a single instance of him condemning the Iranian regime for slaughtering up to forty thousand of their own citizens. I also can't find anywhere in recent comments of the current Pope condemning the slaughter of Christians in Nigeria. But these people wear white robes and red capes. Or maybe it's because I can just go back to the source of the original painting that was posted by Nick Adams back on February fourth, a painting in which he said America has been sick for a long time. President Trump is healing this nation. So do you remember back earlier when I said that I've learned how to wait to figure out where Donald Trump is taking this. And do you also remember a few weeks ago where I walked you through every single one of the agenda points of Agenda forty seven. And Donald Trump has already succeeded or is in the process of completing nineteen out of all of the twenty agenda items, and do you know which one has not yet been started? National unity healing a nation. Which is weird because that's exactly what we are all called to do, to lay hands on the sick and they will be healed. It's an interesting take. I have some disagreements right off the bat. Let's first go to theology. The scripture that he's referencing is Mark sixteen eighteen. Now, many within Christianity actually debate whether this was an addition. There's a lot of people, in fact, many of you. If you go to your Bibles, I think specifically the NASB. I think I believe the ESV as well, will actually have a little section that says that this pasta is just chapter is in dispute as to whether or not it should actually be canonized, if it actually should be a part of your Bible. Don't believe me, Go check. All right, so's he's talking about this, and I will agree because there are other scripture references to laying your hands on the sick that yes, we are called to do that as Christians. Every single time somebody gets sick, we can pray for them, we can have the power of the Holy Spirit. It's not us, it's not our power. But we can pray for healing and if God wills it, then the person will be healed. So I don't dispute that fact, but I do find it interesting that he goes to a section of the Bible that is, in fact in dispute. Hey, once again with Donald Trump. Hey, I love how he's like, am I supposed to be outraged at this? At this, he's pointing to the American flag, he's pointing to the nurse, he's pointing to the military veterans, he's pointing to the SIP person. And he waits to address specifically what we are all upset about. In the what Christians got upset about was obviously the depiction of Jesus. And he can word this any way that he wants. Yes, is Jesus said to be in a white robe later on in Revelation when he returns a blood soaked robe. Absolutely, he's right about that. But the best lies always have elements of truth to them for the longest time. And I challenge all of you to go back and look at images of Jesus Christ throughout the centuries. You will see similar depictions of him in a white robe with the red all right, and this is why Christians got outraged, am I the Catholics? Sure? The Catholics, I agree, they wear this same type of thing. Where did they get it from? Because of the depictions? All right? And so the Catholic pope is a clown. And I know I've got Catholic friends on here that watch this show. I love many of you Catholics. I'm not one of these Christians. I say it all the time that believed that the Catholic Church is the beast. And but who was a Catholic is going to Hell? I don't believe that. And I'm a Lutheran. If anybody should have a problem with the Catholic Church, it should be the Lutherans, right the Reformation, we're the ones that just started it. But the pope, so many of the popes you go through you read the history of the popes, so many of them were terrible, terrible people, awful, doing the worst types of things. This pope is a continuation of it. Right now, that doesn't mean that just because your leader. If I look at some of the things that Martin Luther did, do I agree with all of them. No, I don't, but I still call myself a Christian because what I know about Christianity is that mankind has failed. We're fallen. But that doesn't mean we turn away from the message just because one of the leaders was bad. Every leader's bad because we're sinful. More importantly than any of that is these people that are making excuses for what Trump did. I really really struggle with that one. When Trump goes and does something like this, every Christian worth their weight in salt should be exactly that should be salt, should be light, should be pointing out to Donald Trump, this is not the way, and I hate the Excuse me, Well, he's a baby Christian. He's been a baby Christian since twenty sixteen when you all started that. 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