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We're going to get into that quite a bit as well. And he has this inateability to make every single person he's talking to feel like they're the most special person in the world, which is why I brought them on because I really need to feel special about now. Okay, Scott, thanks for joining us. Hey, Caleb, thanks for having me. You are special. There we go right off the bat, so is Chris. See he's an amazing manling me. Yeah, I know that he's that kind of a guy. Scott. The reason why I said this, you and I were working the Shot show recently and you were. Doing something that I just I had to sit. Back and watch for a little bit. Every single person that was walking by our booth. You would immediately look at their name tag. You must have like twenty twenty vision, but you and then you would call him out by name, and people. Would just stop and be like do I know that guy? And like come talk to me. But you really genuinely care for people. Yeah, I think that's obviously testimony to what the Lord has done in my life. I didn't used to. I used to be very selfish most of my life, very self centered. And I feel like he knocked me off my horse and said that my life is not my own, that I'm a servant to him because of his love for me, and so I just try every day to love people like he would and through his and yeah, so. Well it's an incredible testimony. And one of the things, I mean, the main thing that you do from Mark three to seven dot com is you talk with customers, and but you're not only like helping them transition into you know, the digital privacy world. Every single time you give an update about your work for the week, I hear you're talking to somebody. I mean we just we were just got off of a phone conversation last or yesterday, and you you literally had a customer of ours, say Scott saved my life. I was in a really dark place and he brought me back to the Lord. That's incredible. That call, that guy's name is Cody, was really awesome because I remember it was like about six months ago, him calling in for a consultation. And I usually pray before each call and really just ask the Lord to speak through me and use me to share his heart with the person I'm talking to on the phone. And Cody was going through a pretty low time in his life, and instead of just doing the fifteen minute consultation call, I said, hey, let's you know, let's let's talk about the important things first, and you know, let's get back to square one with the gospel. And so we just went over everything. I had, my Bible, my truck. I literally just sat in a Dollar General parking lot in my Bible and for an hour and we just went through the basics of the gospel and how much God loved him and how much he wasn't looking for him to perform and for him to just be a son. And so I've talked to him many times since then, and that's encouraging. You know, what a company to work for, what a company to do business with, one that the guy that you're going to talk to is more concerned about your spiritual well being than selling a product. Yeah, one hundred percent. I'm thankful for Mark through having to give me a platform to be able to do that. You know, I really care about people, and that's why Sean and I came together. Sean's founder of Mark three to seven. I was preaching the gospel and he was trying to get me to work for him and I'm like, no, I just want to do mission work and full time ministry. And We've been trying to work together for a few years and next thing I know, here we are was the timing was right, so. Sure, and so speaking that direction, let's go into your testimony. Who you are now? You you've already brought up that for a point in time you were a pretty selfish and individual, But who is Scott. Let's let's share that. With the audience, your upbringing and make sure to include you know, your ministry as well in this awesome So. I was born in Florida, grew up in Greenville, South Carolina, and had a single mom who took care of my sister and I. She worked really hard at taking care of us she took us to church, and that was a great thing because it was getting pointed in the right direction. I went through tumultuous time in public school, like everybody does, and I had gotten arrested probably when I was like seventeen or so, and I saw my life, you know, coming before me, and like, either I'm I'm going to choose, you know, to walk in darkness and follow the ways of the world and get caught up with the world, or I was going to follow Jesus. So I got radically born again when I was eighteen and just made a commitment to the Lord that I was going to follow him. And of course the enemy comes immediately to steal the seed and steal the Word. And I went to Bible school out in Texas for two years and read a lot of books. But what I felt like I missed was not really getting in the Word with him and getting to know the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit and communing with them and growing become more like him. So even the Bible school was good, you know, it was a bubble for me, you know, reading a lot of spiritual books about other men's revelation instead of getting together with the Father and getting to know him and revealing himself to me. So that led me to getting into it for about twenty one years, and I was very focused on making money and being selfish, even though I showed up to church every Sunday. And probably about five years ago, right at the beginning of twenty twenty, my wife and I, Chelsea, both felt like the Lord was really calling us to stop writing the fence and calling yourselves Christians and actually following Jesus. And it was a pivotal moment in our life where I decided that I was living as a Christian for myself instead of for His great name and for his glory. And so Chelsea and I picked up our Bibles and committed every day to get in the Word and get to know Him so that we could become more like him. And we went to January sixth the following year in January, and that really opened our eyes. So I went there to pray for people, but it really just lit a bigger fire under me to preach the Gospel, and so I started doing mission work probably fall of actually fall twenty twenty, I started doing mission work, went to Honduras a couple of times and hooked up on an evangelist from our church. It was a great testimony there because it was right in the middle of COVID and I didn't even have a passport, and he was like, Hey, do you want to go with me to Honduras for mission trip? And he's like, do you have a passport? Like no, He's like, well, we're leaving two weeks. And so right in the middle of COVID, you know, you weren't getting the passport for like minimum of three months. So I went to Lindsay Graham's office and next thing I know, I got the passport in a week, and so that was definitely a testimony. So I started doing mission work probably up until twenty twenty three or so twenty four, and I've been to probably about seventeen to twenty countries or so Ethiopia twice, a lot of the South and Central American countries, and it really got me out of my comfort zone because I think probably I was most nervous about sharing my faith with others growing up. But I've come to realize in the last few years that was just because I wasn't spending time in the Word getting to know him. And the more that I got to know him by spending time in his word. The more that I realized that that confidence was his words speaking through me, so it wasn't ever me in the first place. And so that really changed my life. And now everywhere I go, I just grab people and say, hey, do you know the Lord? You know? Hey, he loves you. Hey, can I share the Gospel with you? Hey? You know, do you need a coffee to get discipled? You know, whatever we can do to advance the Kingdom every day, that's what That's what I'm here for. And so I got a big heart for discipleship while I was on the mission field because we did a lot of crusades, like in Ethiopia. I mean we were in front of three hundred and four thousand people at stadiums and crusades, you know, preaching the gospel, and that happened like everywhere we went. It was an average of like thirty to fifty to seventy thousand in colisseums. So that got me out of my comfort zone. But I realized that people weren't being discipled. So we're like, we're scattering the seed of the Gospel, which is what we're supposed to do. But as followers of Christ and true disciples of Christ. We're supposed to make sure that new believers are being discipled and that that seed actually has an opportunity to take root in fertile soil of their heart, and so that we actually can win, you know, as believers and not just scattering the seed and then walking off and looking for the next you know, colisseum to spread the gospel. So that really got big of my heart for discipleship. So I started doubling down in the word, getting in the word minimum probably about two to three hours a day, and started going through everything that Jesus said about advancing kingdom and discipling believers. And so I started just write down scripture line after line and building a journal really just a journal relationship with him and his heart for people. And here we are working with Mark three seven. You know, I'm doing the same thing, work with people and get to meet amazing people like you. So that's kind of like the summary the nonprofit that I had set up last year was Matthew four nineteen dot net. Matthew four nineteen is follow me and I will make you fishers of men. So that was my big heart is like if we're actually communing with Jesus and following him. Were close enough to know his heart and the things that are most dear to him, and that's what we could communicate to others. I mean, there's a lot to unpack there, and it's a beautiful story, and I thank you for sharing it with me and my audience. Number One, you're telling me, Lindsay Graham actually did something right. It's amazing, Like it's like breaking news on church and State right here. That was not that was certainly his staff working for him was not him, had nothing to do with him. So I remember going to his office and calling the DC office and I'm like, listen, I'm going on a mission trip two weeks. I need to passport. Can you guys make it happen? And the Lord came through and they did it. Did the same thing for my ten year old, ten year old or eleven year old boy a couple of years ago. He got it like in four days. I did the same exact thing. That's pretty incrediable. I mean, and it's true. The Lord can use anyone, So that's right. If he called you to be a missionary, no man is going to get in the way of that, so amen to that your story of this testimony. And I can attest to this, ladies and gentlemen. Just seeing Scott in like a cab or something like that. Most people don't really talk to the cab drivers. Scott does. And Scott's like, hey, you know, what's your story? Where you from? Do you know Jesus and someone? It's one of the first questions he asked pretty much every single person he meets. And I love that, And especially in a town like Vegas, Scott where I mean, you can you can literally feel the darkness in Vegas, can't you? Oh? Yeah, it was pretty heavy. That's the first time I've ever been there. Okay, oh okay, yeah, that's right. I forgot that. That's the first time you've been there, and there is there's this darkness upon it. But here here's Scott just being a light to every single person that he's coming in contact with. And it was beautiful to behold. And so I love what you're talking about. With discipleship. This is something I've been pretty big on with church and state. I hate the dunk them and forget them mentality that is so prevalent in the American Christianity as you were just pointing out discipleship takes work, it's going to require a relationship, it's going to require some time, and that's exactly what you're doing. So what I used to think was that here's of the gospel, that is that Jesus came die person so that we could say a prayer and go to heaven and check a box. Boom. You know, we're good, go to church every Sunday, you know, but through the week, you know, we're struggling right Monday through Saturday. And what I realized is that Jesus did not come to shed his blood and be marred beyond any other man in existence, just for us to check a box to go to heaven. He actually shed his blood so that we could be restored back to a loving relationship with the Father the way that he intended in the very beginning in the garden with Adam. He came to restore the love and relationship and communion that we're supposed to have with him walking with him. And so when we get a revelation of the heart of why Jesus came, then we know how to disciple others. We're not just trying to, you know, preach out people actually trying to share the heart of the Father with them, to teach them how to actually follow Jesus and be restored back to the Father. And that's just really it really has changed my life and everybody that I talked to him, like, you don't realize you're not just a Christian for yourself, You're a Christian for his namesake. He wants you to restore back to the Father. He wants you to know the love that He originally had for us in the beginning in the garden when we were supposed to walk and commune with him. And so that's big, big with me. Yeah, and it's a beautiful thing. Now. One of the other things that you talked about, and I don't want the audience to bypass this because you mentioned January six and we got to go into that because you were literally boots on the ground January sixth, the insurrection, the worst attack on American democracy that we've seen in a long time. You know, obviously I'm being facetious here, but this was the claims from the mainstream media and you were there. What did you see there? Love saving money with the Royal Farms Ropo rewards app You'll unlock exclusive deals every day, and when you pay with Rofo Pay, you'll save even more on Royal Farms. Top quality fuel. Every purchase earns you points, redeem them for free favorites at world famous Chicken Fresh, Brood Coffee. Refreshing Fountain Drinks, and so much more. 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They were trying to interview us and they were trying to spin it. They were trying to interview us and spin it in a way later, you know, to make it look bad. And we're like, you know, literally like praying for him. It was pretty cool. So kind of they were going for the Christian nationalist agin. Yes, yes, okay, yes, yeah, And I understand that, you know that our country is important, but what we do is we say America first instead of Jesus verst And we're doing stuff out of retaliation and anger and we are we're doing stuff thinking that that we have rights, and I understand the constitution, fully believe in it. But when Jesus shed his blood for us, we lost all of our rights and we became slaves to him. And so his love is what comes first. Otherwise you don't have a country, you know, and it's loving and serving others. It's not calling out, condemning, being defensive. You know, rise up and you know, grab our guns, you know, even though I have plenty of them, and I fully believe it, But it's Jesus first. It's not America first. But we were there at the Capitol, and we obviously made a walk towards the capital and a lot of what people were seeing on TV was not what we were seeing, and so they'd be calling us and like, you know, it's it looks terrible. Well, all that was happening on the backside, and that was because that was all staged, you know, for the cameras. But when the smoke, grenades and stuff started going off, we all felt at the same time like the Holy Spirit like prompting us to not go forward towards the steps. And so it's sad for a lot of people because I feel like if a lot of people were there for the right reason in their hearts, you know, and and for the Lord, that they would have heard the Holy Spirit prompt to not do that. So a lot of people went in. Unfortunately, Yeah, we got out before an hour before they shut the city down. And I think that has kind of bonded us this group of this couple from our church for years have we still have the same chat like every day, you know that we encourage each other with. But I think it really just encouraged me to just be buld about the gospel and about the fans of the kingdom. That's really what that did for me. Yeah, incredible, So would an event, And I love that you confirmed that, yes, that there was. It was staged, that there were some bad actors, some agents, if you will, that we're throwing into the mix. These are the people that were the loudest clamoring for everybody to go in. They did not end up getting arrested for partaking in that. So you draw your own conclusions, ladies and gentlemen. But from here I want to transition. You know. J six is a great point to talk about should Christians be concerned about digital privacy? Now, there are a lot of Christians Scott that will say, I don't care if people are listening in my phones. I don't have anything to hide. They're going I'm going to be preaching the gospel to my FBI agent. What would you say to a ab remark like that. I can I can understand where they're coming from because I probably you know, used to be like that as well. But I know that that we are commanded to advance the kingdom and if God gives us wisdom and discernment with digital privacy, I think that we would be able to help build a parallel economy and a kingdom network of believers that can actually advance the kingdom in a more efficient way rather than just being flippant about what you're saying and doing in front of your phone. And so I feel like God gives us everything. We have our resources from the Lord right and we're supposed to be good stewards of all those things, and obviously with our words, you know, with what we do with our finances and anything that He's given us. And so I feel like that we could build a network of believers and have secure communications that can help advance the kingdom more efficiently. Would you agree? I completely agree with that, And let me do a follow up on this, and then I want to take it back again because I want to discuss some things with you here. But would you say that Christians are reactionary or resolutions oriented? I would say generally we have been reactionary, and I think that we have been reactionary because we haven't taken what Jesus said to do his commands. And really that comes down to people just not reading their Bibles instead reading footnotes in the Schofield Bible. Okay, so welfare. So when you actually read his words in the heart behind his words. A tax notice, an unexpected bill fine print, a dispute you can't resolve. One minute, you're living your best life. Ever, then suddenly you're googling how do I live in my car? Things can spiral fast. Legal Shold makes successing a lawyer easy and affordable. 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Jesus did for three solid years on the earth. He got his hands dirty, and everywhere he went people were healed and people were touched. And so it's our job as the body of Christ to stop being selfish, stop being self centered, stop looking to a far away nation, you know, as Lord and master of our lives, and start following Jesus. I mean, I completely agree with you on what you just said. And it's a sad state of affairs that the American westernized Church has become reactionary instead of that solutions oriented, purpose driven. Not to I don't like that. Purpose purpose of church. But here's the thing. We do need to have purpose and be very intentional about our ministry, about proclaiming the Gospel and making disciples, and we're just not doing that. And now a lot of the church, especially the Western night Church, we've never experienced persecution. But you and I know Scott now you're you're Hungarian, like your history is behind the communist Soviet Bloc, like your ancestors New extreme persecution. We don't know that here in America, but it's coming, ladies and gentlemen. I firmly believe that it is coming our direction. And why not, as Scott was just saying, start in on that parallel economy, start going with some secure calms so that when it comes, you're not behind that iron curtain literally looking over your shoulder. Am I going to get persecut for going into this church? Yeah? I mean there's nothing wrong with starting a prison ministry if you get thrown in. You know, Paul knows how to do that. But why not have wisdom and have the freedom to be able to move around and build a network and build a church and build the believers and actually bring people that Jesus wants to come back and look for for a beautiful bride and not you know, a corrupt, dirty, stained, lazy bride. And so he wants us to be beautiful, and he wants us to be joyous. He wants us to be full of peace and love, and everywhere we go like, that's that's what we should be leading with, because it's the goodness and the kindness of the Lord that actually lead people to re penance. Absolutely, but we tend to have this sit on our hands mentality, this idea that, and I'm certainly not going against this. Yes, God has order to everything, and God is not surprised by anything that mankind does. But we have this tendency to look and say, oh, well, you know China, for example, Yeah, it fell the communism, but that was God's plan all along. Well, yes, but also could it be that the people didn't get engaged, didn't identify the evil of communism, and didn't fight back against it. They kind of took that apathetic approach to it. I don't want that here for America, Scott Amen. I believe that we need to be bold and stand up and evil evil. So so you have a mountain, and you know you have you've taken that ground, you have authority of the over that mountain. Well, every inch that you give up the enemy he's gonna he's gonna try to take as much ground as he possibly can. So we actually need to advance and take ground. King David when he was in his castle and he's supposed to be out in war in the spring, advancing the kingdom what kings were supposed to be doing. Instead, he was lazy and apathetic and he sat on the roof and that's what got him in trouble. He started watching Netflix, got in big trouble. So he was supposed to be out advancing the kingdom, taking ground. And that's what we're supposed to be doing every day. I look at it like the analogy of a fast moving river. Once you let go and don't swim against the current like you by the fall, you're automatically taking down that river just by doing nothing. So we are in a battle and we have to wear armor and we have to fight every day. But here's the thing. If if you're not if you're not digging into communing with the Lord in his word and putting on armor and filled up to overflowing every day, then you all you're gonna do is get by every day and you're gonna white knuckle just trying not to send. And that's not what Jesus called you do. And he's right, gentlemen, you can't be white knight in Scott I apologize, we got that heartbreak. We're coming back, ladies and gentlemen. Ladies and gentlemen, I want all of you to be a walking billboard. Some of us don't have platforms such as Church and State. But you know what, we can wear T shirts and engage in great conversations with Christians and patriots all across the country. Stand Up Now Apparel is the best T shirts out there. These are American made, owned by a Christian and a Patriot, and the material it's like getting a warm hug from yours truly. One of the better things as well, is there's no tags. I hate tags. I know you do as well. 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And your apps and stealing your personal data and information, basically doing a digital profile of your life in its entirety, the things that you buy, the things, the places that you're going to be next week or go in a month. Like it's literally taking a profile of your life, all for money and a dollar bill and to control you. So Graphios is the operating system. It's locked down. And then on top of Graphios we install our privacy focused apps to basically replace most of the apps that you have on your current Apple or Google device, so that you've got apps that are privacy focused, open source, and they are mission aligned with not stealing your data. The devices we have are ghost phones, ghost laptops, and ghost tablets. The laptops have a version of Linux called Zorin on them. Everything is well priced and I mean, do we mention Patriot Mobile. We haven't yet, So I'm going to love you take it man. This is exciting news for everybody that's employed by Mark three seven dot com and anyone who's in the market for digital privacy. Scott take it away. Awesome. So we just got news today. This has been works for a long time that we are going to have the Mark three to seven ghost phones on Patriot Mobile site starting tomorrow. So our ghost moondes will be on Patriot Mobile sites starting tomorrow. So you can go to Patriotmobile dot com and see any of our devices. You can also go to Mark three seven dot com look at the devices as well. We're really excited about working with Patriot Mobile. They are America's number one Christian wireless company that is very much mission aligned with us. We were just at the Shot show in Vegas with them and they were really excited to start working with us. Sean has been working really hard with their team. They have such a great offering. One of the benefits to their services is that they protect your personal information. So they are an MVNO, which is basically a reseller of the three big companies, the three big network services. But the benefit to Patriot Mobile is when you sign up with them, they keep your personal information private. So when they go sign up the phone line or migrate your phone service over to THEIRS, they don't send your personal information through to the big tech companies. So that is definitely one of the huge benefits of them. We're excited to be working with them. Yeah, I'm thrilled with this news. And by the way, to the audience, as of this recording, it is February third, so it'll be February fourth. I think this episode actually comes out February fifth, so well, it'll be a little bit messed up on the timeline as you're listening to this. If you are, then you can actually go to Padrio Mobile right now and go check out the ghost phones right there from mark three seven. You know, Scott, some of the other things I love all the cool things that our phones have. I just started doing the pin scrambler, So ladies and gentlemen, when you're picking up your phone, somebody can actually watch you and a student individual can watch you and by how you're pointing on your finger they can actually determine your password. So one of the cool features we have is every single time that pin comes up for you, the numbers are scrambled. That isn't say one, two, three, four, five, six, No, it's all scrambled up, So it's different for you every single time. And if somebody gets your phone and checks out your fingerprints, it's going to be different every time on that as well. Very much so, a couple of cool features along with that pen scrambler is a duress mode. I love this one. So you can hold down the power button on the ghost phone with grapheos and you can hit lockdown. And what lockdown does is it uses a secondary pin that you have previously set up, not the primary one that you put in, but a secondary one. When you punch that in, it essentially reboots and wipes the phone. So that is such a great situation for high profile people or Christians believers that are in a situation where persecution is happening, you know, and you don't want to give your phone over. So Mike Lindell a couple of years ago got pulled over in a hearty sparking lot by the FBI and they snatched the phone out of his hand. And if he had had a ghost phone at the time and held down that power button and went into lockdown for the duress mode, he could have punched in his secondary pen and handed it right to them, said here take my phone, and gotten his car walked away and it would have wiped his device. So that's one of the great features. And the fat like you're not going to be able to strike data from it. Correct. One of the other quick stories you heard me say this at the Shots show, is that some of the apps that we pre install on the Ghost phone, including Signal, which is a privacy encrypted messaging app. It is a great app for communication, but you have to have it on a phone that has Graphios for the operating system, otherwise it's going to have access to your data. So case in point Tucker. Tucker, when he did the interview with Putin a couple of years ago, you guys will remember he said that his phone got hacked. Well, he was using Signal for that conversation with Putin or his associates, but he was using Signal on his Apple iOS device, and so the operating system itself is what was hackable. And so they basically went through the back door through the operating system, got access to his Signal app and got access to that phone call and his data. Yeah, and that's the thing, ladies and gentlemen. They can literally watch your screen real time what you're texting through Apple through Android, and so it's not a matter of I don't really have anything to hide. I hate that term. People often don't realize that they're literally paraphrasing Joseph Goebbels, Minister of Propaganda for the Nazi Party. Those who have nothing to hide, have nothing to fear. Stop saying that. Get that out of your brain, Lesion, gentlemen, it's not about having something to hide. It's about the fact that the government doesn't have the right to spy on me. I retain those rights. Or if you want to make it a little bit more benign, are you tired of talking about, Hey, you know, a vacation in Hawaii sounds really good, And ten minutes later your phone is showing you hotels for Hawaii, Like, I'm tired of that. I don't want the convenience, so called convenience of that. What's the use Scott Amen. Yeah, the convenience is what keeps us lulled to sleep and continually stuck in the matrix and these big tech companies systems, and so you have to wake up and realize that you can do something about it. You could take some very simple steps starting today. You can stop using a Google Chrome browser and start using the Brave browser, which is a privacy focused browser. You can get a ghost phone and take your SIM card out, throw it in there, and instantly you can start having a privacy centered phone. One question that I know people are gonn to ask, like, okay, well, what about all the apps that I'm used to using, you know, on my on my communist phone, what about you know, Outlook and and WhatsApp and all those things. Well, on the ghost phone, there is a special feature that is a sandbox area of the phone that you can set up. Takes about ten minutes to set up. And like, for instance, when I go on mission trips, I need to use WhatsApp for right now to communicate with some of the pastors and leaders in other countries. So what I do is I just go into the sandbox area of my ghost phone and WhatsApp gets installed in there, and it has no access to the rest of my phone, has no access to my contacts, my photos, my data, the operating system or any other apps. So I could literally use that app in time out in a sandbox and and and I don't have to lose the functionality you know, of needing an app. So like, if somebody needs Outlook for work, you know, you could put it in that sandbox area and use Outlook. Yeah, it's yes, does it take a little bit of education to get there. Sure, we're not going to deny that, but ladies and gentlemen, it's in your hands. Your digital privacy is in your hands. And as somebody who's gone through some digital privacy courses, they're hard, they're difficult to understand. Like you want me to install graphy and OS on my Android phone, I'm not going to be able to do that, Okay, but mark three to seven, as Scott just said, it was simple for me. I started using one. I took my SD card and I moved it to the phone and started going. So if you want to check one out Church and State dot media, go to Mark three seven dot com and use that promo code Church and State. Scott, I want to talk to you about that convenience. This is important because it's making us lazy and it's making us stupid. One of my favorite dystopian movies. I really don't recommend it for Christians because it's a language warning. But Idiocracy right is a is a really humor there is dystopian movie that kind of became a documentary. And nowadays we're all walking around and we're using our government surveillance systems constantly, and we like the convenience. I like that my phone already knows what I'm going to be doing. I'm like that, I don't even have to stop and ponder or even look up at the sky in awe and amazement about God's creation. No, this is all by design and as you just said, we're actively trying to get people out of that matrix. Amen. Yeah. And what's really cool about the resources that we have on mark three seven dot COM's website. There are countless thousands of hours that Sean, our founder, has put in too resources for the simplicity of people being able to migrate over from their old devices to their privacy focused devices. You can go to the resources to have three seven dot com at the top and you can either click on what you want to focus on for migration your phones or your laptops. And I know from firsthand experience from talking to count some amount of people on the phone, especially even older men and women in their seventies and eighties, can go through those step by steps one through three four on how to get stuff migrated. It is very simple, is very straightforward, and you would not believe the boomers that have knocked the stuff out of the park. It's amazing. Yeah, it truly is. Scott. Let me ask you this last question actually for us that I want to ask you because there are some competitors out there, and probably the most well known competitor for what we do at Mark three seven dot com is the up phone. But there's a problem with the upphone, isn't. There there's a small problem with the up phone. So one of Sean, the founder of Mark three seven's companies that he started was intel OD dot net. That's Intel OD which stands for Intel on Demand dot Net. He decided years ago when starting this company that he needed to vet all of the companies that we were either going to look into work for. Maybe companies that you thought was mission align and christ focus. He has found out, uh, time after time after time, if you follow the money and follow the ethos of the companies that they are actually not mission aaligned and actually the money and the people behind the scenes is corrupt. And so Intel OD dot net he has done many dossier's on some companies and including the Prince phone phone. And let's just say that the team of people there Prince got to hire and set up his phone and software everything came from the Israeli Masad IDF and so the background there has definitely been questionable. And then you know, you build an up phone, you have them create the software and they're the same people that developed the Pegasus software that basically can jump on anybody's phone anytime, which has happened many time and taking over their data and stolen their identities and stuff like that. And so like you, you have a guy that you know, has them build the software in the phone, and then you jump on one of the biggest podcastings Jose the Nation, you know, Sean Ryan, and have him promote it. You know, that's just it just seems questionable there. So you can look up all that stuff on inteld dot net. Yeah, it's all public record. And I don't care if it's MASAD, it's CIA. If they tell me, hey we developed this privacy phone, we want to use it and it's developed by an intelligence agency. Yeah, hard pass on my part. That's just me Scott. It has been an absolute pleasure having you on. I love where your heart is, I love your ministry. And how do people get in contact with you? All right? So you can reach out to me at Scott at mark three seven dot com. That's Scott at mark three seven dot com. That is my email. I would love to talk to you and love to talk to you about getting transition out of the matrix. And number one start following Jesus, and number two start taking the resources that he has given you to steward and to start doing it for his glory and for his purposes and advancing his kingdom. Yeah, that'll be. Encourage you and get in the word, spend some time with him, get to know him. Amen, well said well, Scott, I'm gonna go ahead and close this out. If you hold on one more minute post production, just so we can say goodbyes, I'd appreciate it. But once again, thank you for joining us on Church and State. Sure enjoyed it. Thank you all right, Ladies and gentlemen, there you go. You have the capabilities in your hands, but it just takes, as I tell you so often, a little bit of work. Roll up your sleeves, get busy for Christ, and get busy taking back your digital sovereignty and privacy. Church and State is brought to you in part by Colonial Life, Spookan, Independent Agents, Finder's Insurance, and Mark three to seven dot Com. I'm Caleb Collier. I was born for a storm. 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