Church & State - I Do Not Consent w. Dr Simone Gold

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She's been an absolute warrior fighting for medical freedoms and it is a pleasure to bring her back on the show. Doctor Gold, thank you again for your us on Church and State. It's great to be back. Caleb, thank you. So much, absolutely so. You have, I mean, to so many of us in the medical freedom fight. You have been a hero for us. You've been very brave and bold and faced a significant amount of persecution for your stance. Why did you decide that you couldn't just sit back, couldn't just kind of bury your head in the sand, just kind of maybe be a doctor that maybe you didn't push the vaccine amongst your patients, but you didn't really you weren't very vocal about it. Why did you decide that you needed to tackle this issue head on? I love that question. It is the starting point. My father was a doctor, so I grew up believing that medicine was the best thing you could do with your life. It's not an exaggeration to say that in my family, being President. Of the United States would not have been considered a greater honor. I really thought most doctors were like myself, that they really put the patient first, that they were there to help the patient. And I actually had no idea. And then twenty twenty world around. I knew that the practice of medicine party then was always difficult, filled with paperwork and inefficiencies and complicated motives, but you always, at the end of the day, I thought could do the right thing by the patient. In twenty twenty, all of a sudden, for the first time in my career, I actually could not do the right thing for the patient. If I did the right thing for the patient, I would lose my job. It was dystopian. So honestly, for me, there was no choice. It was obviously I was going to do the right thing by the patient and let the chips fall where they may. They turned out to fall kind of aggressively, but I wouldn't take any of that back. It started with a specific moment, a specific patient in the er who needed early treatment, and I prescribed early treatment for her, and I was naive enough to think that that would be the end of it. She did great. Then I was called in by the chief medical officer who threatened to fire me, which was utterly shocking. Not only did I have a great reputation until that point, but also really, you didn't get involved with peers, you know, direct patient care. That just wasn't the thing that was done. So that is what activated me. It was actually the patient looking at for the patient. I didn't want to live in a country where the doctors were harnessed to the government to just do the government's bidding. Sure, and it's so wild to me. It was such as you said, dystopian, It truly was. Twenty twenty was a moment in time that I think every American will remember, as we really had the veil pierced and we saw what exactly was at stake and how the government was going to intrude on things that we just naturally assumed we had the ability to decide, I'm going to take this drug, I'm not going to take this drug. I'm going to vaccinate, I'm not going to vaccinate. This was something that was essential freedoms to us, and in twenty twenty the government said, uh uh no, we control this. Yeah. And I want to remind people also that in addition to being a doctor, I'm must a lawyer. So when all this came down in twenty twenty, I saw right away that this was an enormous threat to our institutional freedoms. We remember, right they were closing churches, but keeping Walmart opened. If there is something that's so dangerous that you have to close a church, which is the last thing that our country has permission to close, right because it's in our Bill of rights that you can free to assemble. If you can close that, then you can't keep Walmart open. They can't both be true. So when I saw that happening, I became very, very alarmed for our freedoms and our constitution. And the other very specific thing that happened was that the state of California sent out a letter to all of its doctors saying that if we prescribe early treatment, we can lose our license. Again. As a lawyer, I understood where the threat this was. This wasn't about hydroxychloroquin or covid or stars or anything like that. This was about gaining control or anybody who has a state license. If they could tell me who owns a state license, a licensee, what I can do, what I can say, then there is no freedom. So for me, I was fighting. Really for everyone, every middle class business owner, you know, liquor shop owner or restaurant owner, who was being threatened child Dacre centers. They were being threatened. Why are they being threatened because the state control the licensed their livelihood and we saw a lot of that in twenty twenty. I don't want people to forget this is real. Many of my closest friends now for the last several years are the doctors who stood up to this tyranny. This is real, like this, this is real that they're pulling back the ability of Americans to speak because they're controlling their livelihoods. Sure, and you know, I've often said on the show that there was some silver linings to what we experienced with COVID nineteen, and a lot of people woke up, as I was kind of referring to, a lot of people saw the evil behind what government was doing here. And then we saw the Maha movement arise. And I got to tell you, I was one of those people that was more excited about Maha than I was Maga, to be quite honest, I said, gosh, if we can fix what's in our food supply, if we can actually start having discussions about what medications I'm going to take, or what vaccines. I don't take any vaccines, but you know, if somebody's still interested in those, and I feel like there's a lot of people out here in the Maha movement that are feeling kind of betrayed. What say you, doctor Gold. I'm going to say that the answer is complicated. I don't personally feel that way, and I'll list why. However, I sotly understand when you look at it, it feels very disappointing. I think I don't feel that way because I always knew, or for thirty years at least, Big Farmer runs a federal government, not the other way around. We all think there's a military industrial complex. Heck no, there's a medical industrial complex. It's far more powerful. So I knew that Bobby Kennedy was going to have a very difficult time. His job is at least as hard as the president's. He has to get all these different stakeholders in line. He can't turn left, he can't turn right. It's very difficult. So I think that my expectations were probably lower than somebody who wasn't so familiar with it. However, there are some specific things that need to be done that we have to jump on, but you need a Congress for example. There are two very specific things I want to point out. One is we need to get rid of ads on television that are advertising pharmaceuticals. I want to. Share with all of your viewers that we are one of only two nations that allows pharmaceutical ads to consumers direct to consumers. And this all is very new. They started in the nineteen nineties. This is just one generation. So now you turn on the TV and there's six ads in a row, and if you're paying attention, you can see that a lot of ads that follow each other are actually side effects for the ad that they just had. It's kind of crazy, and you wonder if people are thinking this through. But that's something that has to happen, and that's something that I do think that the President and Kennedy working together could move the needle on and that would make a big difference over the long haul, and of course the vaccine schedule which he's working on. I think I had limited expectations, so I think it's an impossible job. Sure. I love that you bring up the commercials because I always laugh at these. It's kind of a sad laugh, but it's still a little bit of laughter because it seems like, and I've brought this up on the show multiple times, you know, every commercial is the same. They show these people they're struggling with some sort of ailment, but then it gets happy as they start taking these drugs and the lighting changes, and then when they get to the side effects. You remember the micromachine guy that used to talk super super fast. That's what they do with all the side effects, and then they go back to Hey, but life can be better if you're taking this medication. To me, I think we need to move the same direction we did with tobacco, you know, where we don't allow tobacco advertisements anymore on television and to me, actually tobacco is less dangerous than most of the medications out there. Yeah, that's why I'm sharing with everybody. They should get activated on this issue. You know, you're looking around you think it's normal. It is absolutely abnormal to have direct to consumer advertising on drugs. It's absolutely abnormal. Two nations in the world do it. It's the United States and for some reason New Zealand. But it's only one generation and it's a complete a barancy and it needs to be abolished. That is itself will do a lot. Not only are people convinced they of diseases and need meds when they don't. There's also just a culture of medicalization and culture of medical fear, like. I might get that disease, I might get that disease. Maybe I have that disease, or I take that pill and everything will be better, or I take that pill. It's just it's just in mushrooms. It has to stop those ads, and I am hoping that the administration does turn its attention to that, because I do think that's a victory we can win. Yeah, I would agree with you on that one. And you're absolutely right. If you're constantly subjected to this propaganda of all these different medications, you're going to start thinking, oh, my gosh, my head hurts. Mostly my head hurts from politics, but my head hurts, So maybe I have, you know, this disease, and maybe I should start getting on this medication. Oh but that medication has side effects. Don't worry, there's another medication to counteract those side effects. And suddenly you're taking multiple pillows every single day. And I always want to share with people. You know, you start listening in this world and you start thinking this is normal. It is absolute not normal to need a lot of medicines. Think back to your grandparents and not even your parents anymore. Your grandparents were not taking meds like this. This was total aberration. And I started noticing this as an er doctor. The people in their forty started to be on like three or four meds, and people over fifty were on like four or five mens And I was like, when did this become normal? And we'll get to it later. But I built a healthcare network for this purpose. We don't want people to be on meds. We don't want them to be in meds forever. That's another like you know, scam. People now think that if they go on a med they're kind of implied that they should be on it forever. That should not be the default position. But there's this consumer demand that's being fed, and we're also being told that life is fixable with a pill. You know what, most of life is very difficult, and you have to get up with a smile. You have to move your body every day, you have to eat as healthy as you can every day. You have to have social relationships, and people are complicated, so it's not easy. But these are the things that keep people healthy. People don't want to hear that. They want to hear that they can take a pill. Our government should not be in the business of pill pushing. I completely agree with that. I'm glad you brought up the food because this is something that a lot of people within the MAHA movement. We're very excited with Bobby Kennedy getting in there changing our diets. When you go to the grocery store, it's literally poison, I mean, and everything is packaged the colors. Everything's just designed to draw your attention. Oh, I want that it looks delicious. You're consuming vast quantities of sugars, food colorings, glycipates, all these different things. How I just love your opinion as a professional, as somebody really knows what they're doing. What are some recommendations that doctor Gold would have for people as they go to the grocery store to avoid or at least decrease the amount of these toxins that they're consuming. You know, it's I'm going to compare someonthing that's very you wouldn't think be compared, but it's a little bit like social media. Social media is all around you, and the best thing you can do is withdraw from it because when you immersed in that social media world is very negative, toxic environment. It's quite similar in a grocery store. To the extent you can avoid it. You really shouldn't even be going into these huge grocery stores. I live in Florida. Now they've got beautiful grocery stores, but still when you go in, you're very tempted to get all sorts of things that you don't need. The old rules, you know, stick with the fresh food. They're on the aisles right, you know, and the perimeter of the store. You really are supposed to stick with food that you grandma and your grandfather would recognized as food. You know, you should try to do meals. You should try not to eat on the run, eat standing up, basic things like that. The most important thing, though, is to maintain a normal body weight. We lived in a culture now where you can't see the truth. Well, I'm a truth teller. It is not healthy to be very overweight. Of course you might get away with it, but your odds of getting a bad disease go up exponentially. You have to do make every effort to be the normal body weight. There are natural supplements that can help with that that are not prescription g LP one agonist medications, but those GLP ones are out there. The important point is you have to move your body every day. You've got to exercise. No matter what age you are, You've got to be lifting weights. You've got to have that muscle tone. I don't care if you're in your eighties. A lot of people are in their older caleb. They think that they can't lift weights. It's actually not true. You should be lifting weights always for women. Hormone replacement very important. We were sold kind of a false narrative for about twenty to thirty years now that women shouldn't consider hormone replacement. In fact, both sexes should be considering hormone replacement. That's another whole, huge area. We are nutritionally deplete on vitamins. So this is what I've turned my attention to the last several years of gold Care, and we've combined wellness with medical. The company is goal Care Health and Wellness. And the reason it is is we take the health portion, which is like the disease portion, doctors like myself, medical doctors experts at that. But we have the wellness portion, the naturopathic doctors, the functional doctors, the integrat of doctors. That's just as important. In fact, for most people most of the time, it's more important. You need doctors like rarely, you need a wellness guidance really kind of all of your life. So we put that together and we just want to help you live healthy. And you know, those are just things. There's not a lot of money, I think to be made on telling people these things. Right, you should go at ground and you should walk around and bare feet, you should get some sunlight. Yeah, I mean. All things that, as you said, our grandparents were doing. They understood it. You're talking about grounding, going out in the sun, working in the garden, eating foods that they could actually pronounce. You know that used to be the normal and now it is not. I love that you brought up a healthy weight. I used to be an emt and when all this things, all this came out about fat shaming, I was like, this is one of the most unloving things you can do to society, to tell them no, no, no, you're big and beautiful. No, ladies and gentlemen. If you want to live healthy, if. You don't want to be miserable in your skin, get to a healthy weight. I want to share something with you because this is a WEE can spend the whole entire show talking it. Because if there's one one thing that you can do that would move the needle from most people, it's actually being a normal body weight. The reason this is so. Important is that most illnesses are either directly resulted or worsened by what we call metabolic syndrome. And metabolic syndrome is really when you get too heavy and your body is stressed and it's constantly releasing insulin. It's a very superficial way of explaining it, but you want to be in a state where your body isn't constantly being pressured to release insulin. Every time we put food in our mouth, we release insulin, and that is very taxing on the body. It's for a lot of reasons. You have to be a normal body weight. You have to make every effort to get there. That's why I'm actually more sympathetic than you might imagine to the golp one agonists because I know that for some. People it's necessary. However, there has to be informed consent, and there really hasn't been informed consent. You might not know. For example, golp one agonists can be used at microdoses. Nobody talks about that because it's not as lucrative for big pharma. But there's tools at your disposal. But you have to have as. A starting point that you're not going to be as healthy and live your best life if you're not in a normal body weight. And you alluded to the fact that it's just kind of difficult. To move in your daily life with the feeling of happiness and motivation if you're carrying a lot of extra weight. Sure, I want to go into this because this is an interesting subject. I know a lot of people that are taking GLP ones. It's the latest greatest phase. Everybody's doing it. They're dropping massive amounts of weight. They look pretty good, but there are some side effects that are associated with that. And you talked about microdosing there. I'd love to expand a little bit on that for the audience because I think this is something that could greatly benefit them. First, I'm going to make a shameless pitch because we do that. This is what we do at Goldcare so it's Goldcare dot Com. We give people the information that they need Goldcare dot Com. So GLP one agonists are successful at helping people lose weight. The problem is, I start from a libertarian perspective. You need informed consent, and it really isn't happening. The overhalling majority of people who take GOLP one agonists like ozempic are not realizing and not being informed that a disproportionate amount of the weight being lost is actually lean muscle mass or lean mass as. Opposed to fat. So if you put somebody on just died and exercise versus ozembic or Munjarre right where GOVI whatever. They're all called the group that's just died in exercise. If they succeed, and that's the big gift. But if they succeed, will lose about fifteen maybe twenty percent of the weight loss will be in lean mass. But in the GOLP one group it's about twenty five to forty percent of the weight loss is the lean mass. Lean mass is what's like muscle is metabolically metabolically active during the day, So if you drop your lean mass, you actually proportionally can eat less calories during the day. This is why when. People who start these mets get rebound weight gain. When they go off these mets, they actually have less muscle mass. So if you're going to consider, if you've tried everything else, you've had informed consent, and this is the path that you've decided you want to go down, you should strongly consider microdosing, and you should go in with the mindset that this is temporary. You should think of it like you've got a broken ankle and you're on crutches, and this is something you're going to do for a period of time, and in that period of time it's going to help you reset your thoughts because it's not just a stomach satiety. It's working on your brain too, to quiet all the food and emotional reasons why people eat. It's quieting both. You take that time period to learn how to train yourself into better habits, and you can do that at much lower doses than they tell people. And you have to do resistance training during that period to minimize the amount of lean mass that you're going to lose. In that way, you can use these drugs with minimal harm and better long term success. I think that is wonderful information for the audience there. And I do want to bring up the website goldcare dot com, Chris, if you can bring that up. But I mean, what you're talking about here is like it's taking personal responsibility instead of you know, and I don't want to be mean, but a lot of Americans are out there like, nah, just give me the pill. I don't have to change my diet. I don't have to change my lifestyle. I can still be a couch potato. But I dropped all this weight. But you're telling the audience here that you're going to lose a lot of lean mass, the stuff that you actually need and if you ever come off this diet, because of course what we were talking about with the pharmaceutical companies, they want you on it for life, that you'll actually bounce back, you'll gain more weight, and it'll be the weight that you were originally trying to lose in the first place. No, it's true. It's well documented that you have rebound weight gain because you basically struck for the rest of your life. If you want to maintain a weight. Again, we are sympathetic, and everyone is an individual, and I'm not in the business of making decisions for grown, sentient thinking adults. I'm in the business of sharing solid information with you. And if a GLP one agonist is the direction you want to go, you should be informed. You should consider microdosing. In fact, it's what we do. It should be microdos and you have to do weightlifting at the same time, and you have to go in with the mindset that this is temporary, that this is a crutch that you're going to use. For a short time. And my goodness, Caleb, if only medicine doctors acted like that, you know, Instead they're saying, here, take this pill, take it forever. You don't have to do anything else. I'm literally saying the opposite and saying, let's use medicines here and there, maybe cautiously with the mindset towards it's being transient. Yeah, I mean, I mean that's the kind of the doctor that I want to see. There's also natural right, It's not as lucrative and it's not as sex scene. It involves you have to do some work, you know, I lift weights pretty much every day. There's also natural things that people could try. There's berberine, which is good at reducing appetite. You also have to have a good night's sleep every night. Melatonin is helpful, you know, there's a lot of things women. Hormone replacement is actually really important for post mental pausa women because they really have a difficult time sleeping. I'm in that category and hormone replacement therapy changed my life. And I grew up in an era of medical training where they got rid of hormone replacement therapy for women, and I think it's a crime. It's terrible. So there's a lot of things you can do to feel better in your own skin on a daily basis. Let me ask you something, just a personal note for myself because I started doing this, and I didn't expect the result. But I started taking methylene blue and I struggled with insomnia. My brain just would not shut off. I didn't expect methylene blue to actually help with insomnia, but in my case it has. Is there a reason for that? I hate? But I hate more than a minuting. I don't know something, as I would never say something if I don't know, and the answers I actually don't know. I've never inquired about methylene blue. I've never looked at that and insomnia. I had never heard that before. But I want to tell you something I don't ever argue with success. One of the lessons we learned during COVID is doctors are so arrogant. They're so full of. Certainty over what they know that when a patient comes in and tells you something that it's working for them. I know many of my peers they, oh, no, that doesn't work, simply because that doctor doesn't know, hasn't looked into it. It's not their worldview. They said that all the time about acupuncture, for example, because Western doctors don't know anything about it. So the answer is it's working for you. So whether the research supports or doesn't support it. I don't know, but it's working for you and it's a safe supplement. There you go, just say, thank god, I'm so happy my insomnia is better. There we go. All right. I like that answer quite a bit. I want to move into some of the books because not only being a lawyer and a doctor, you're also an author. You've done documentaries as well. We'll get into that in just a little bit here too, But you've written a few books selective Persecution, and I do not consent, and Chris, you can find oh you've already found it. Good job, Chris. This is on doctor simonegold dot com. But I want to talk to you about these books, selective persecution. This is an interesting one and it kind of goes to what we really started the episode with. But you were persecuted a lot of great doctors, Kirk Moore. I mean, there's so many out there that I've interviewed over the years, but great people that faced similar persecutions to you. Is this why you wrote this book? Notice how some homes sell faster in your neighborhood. It's not luck, it's local. No, how Remax agents know their street schools and communities inside and out. And with Remax, those local pros. Are everywhere, which means when you're ready to buy or sell, you'll get trusted neighborhood insight that puts you a step ahead. Reach out Today. Remax the experts close to home, each office independently owned and operated. My baby always comes first. We spent months preparing her nursery, baby proof the house, and cut the safest car seat. So why would we consider baby diapers that could irritate her skin. 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So it's it's about the weaponization of the government, how vulnerable the individual citizen is to an awesome, fearful federal government. So every chapter is something that happened to me by our government and my response to it. And it's really a warning sign for people like this really happens, and this is really what you do, and it's scary. You know, our founding fathers well taught us. You know, the whole purpose of our Constitution and our Bill of Rights is to keep to limit the government's power. And we grow up in this you know, comfortable, lovely, amazing country. And so we think that the government is benign the entity. It's not. Governments are not benign entities. We have the most one of the most benign on the planet. But they're not benign. They really kind of feed on themselves, they grow on themselves. They really kind of exist to get bigger and more powerful, and we have to check that power. So this book, every chapter is something that happened to me. As you know, I was present on January sixth. I was peaceful, obviously. I mean, I'm dedicating my life to saving lives. It's like ludicrous that I have to say that. But you know, I got arrested by the FBI in the most violent swat team arrest imaginable. And you say to yourself, what kind of policies does or FBI have that they could go into the home and break down the door with like twenty men in tactical gear and big, huge weapons pointing at you, you know, laser lights on my chest. What has happened to our nation that that could even be possible. So we walk you through that prosecutors lie. This is tragic. I actually in my journey in the last four years, I met many secuters. Unfortunately, every single prosecutor I interacted with lied, And it's all in the book with all of the evidence of the transcripts, and you can see their lives and you ask yourself, wow, I didn't know I lived in a country while all the prosecutors are lying. That's pretty scary stuff. And we all lived through COVID, and I thought, wow, if you're interested in COVID, I expose it. All that's in chapter six. You know, would it shock you to know that, you know, how did this all happen? Well, co Fauchi did this all in the AIDS epidemic. He did the same thing with AIDS epidemic that I did with COVID, and like, I put all that together. So it's quite fascinating. You know, I've fluted this theory before on the show. But whenever you're watching a movie and you're not sure about is this guy a bad guy or a good guy, and if he harms a pet, if he goes and kills a dog or something, you're like, uh, bad guy doctor Fauci taking beagle puppies and allowing sand fleas to literally eat their flesh while they're alive. I don't know, just me, I tend to believe that a bad guy leischmaniasis. They were seting this disea called leischmaniasis leichmniosis, I don't have to pronounce it. And anyway, a lot of the dogs are whipering so badly that they actually cut vocal cores in the dogs. I mean it's so crazy, like it's absolutely crazy. Also, follow the money, and you know the other thing is who who isn't benefiting financially? Doctor Kirkmore was not benefiting financially. I was not benefiting financially. You know, those are the people to listen to. Well, I'm I'm going to have to get this book because this sounds like something I will absolutely Yeah, I'll probably get a little bit angry, but it'll be a righteous anger, so that is great. I do not consent, which is what I've titled this show, walk us through this book as well. This is doctor gold. I apologize. I just looked at the clock. We're at that hard break, ladies and gentlemen. Maybe that's a teaser, Okay, a little bit of a teaser. We're going to be talking about this book as well as the documentary when we get back. Unless you're an alien or you've been living under a rock for the last few years, you know that the price of doing business everywhere is going up. Bread, milk, eggs. 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Also, real quick hit the donate button for us just to keep us on the air and continue to have wonderful conversations with people like doctor Simone Gold. With that, let's go ahead and go back to our guest. I had to cut her off, but what a teaser. We're going to talk about her other book. I do not consent, doctor Gold, thanks for staying with us. I do not consent is about how I got started on this fight. You've asked me at the top of the show why I did this, as it was actually a specific patient that needed specific medication and I would not consent with hurting her. It was just out of the question. So if you're very curious about this, or you wondered how I knew. You know, a lot of people credited me with being so wise. I said, honestly, this was information that was available to anybody who could read. This was not complicated stuff. You just had you know, in about five minutes. If you read some of the studies, you could see. What I saw. So this book shows you how easy it was to not really believe the lies that we were being told. The problem was they were being suppressed and censored. I actually think this book in a way makes you pretty angry because you'll see what a simple lie it was that we were given. It was such a it was like a second grade lie, and we all, you know, many people fell for it. Sure, and in that story you were talking about when you were treating this patient, you treated them immediately you saw the issues. I'm assuming I might be wrong, but something like ivermecked in what was probably a dosage or a treatment that you gave. But why was there such an attack on the medications that were actually working? Right? It's the perfect that's the foundational question. It actually turns out there's a really simple, easy answer. So there's a law in America that if you are going to release an experimental treatment or vaccine like as an emergency, it has to be because there's no other already approved treatment available. That was the crust. Follow the money, so they couldn't come out with the vaccine quickly and bypassed the fifteen years of research that they need to do on the fertility and you know, cancer risk and all of those things and safety and efficacy if there's another treatment available. So the role out of Madernifizer, Johnson Johnson, Astra Zeneca all depended upon the being no other treatment available. Wow, there it is right there. Let me ask you this as well, because this was an interesting a note that a lot of doctors within the medical freedom side saw and talked openly about. But with a. Respiratory illness, so like COVID nineteen, why were tobacco users actually a little bit safer? It seemed. It seems strange if it's a respiratory you would think a smoker that it was going to affect them even worse. But that wasn't what we were seeing. Yeah, it was. I saw mixed data on that. The theory was that it competed in its binding site with tacco receptors. I'm not certain that that was definitely accurate, I will tell you, but I wanted to re emphasize that if you did not have multiple comorbid conditions, you came through this situation no problem by the CDC's own. Data. You know. That was really the tragedy is that people were led to be so afraid. When of the data supported it. And it was bewildering to people like you or me because you didn't have to be a doctor to notice that there was actually not bodies lining up in the streets, right There were no big body bags by the dozens laying out on the curb waiting to be picked up by the sanitation department. I mean, that's literally what they were telling us. It was was Biden the Winter of Death or whatever they were using, and that wasn't what. It was at all. In fact, when you look at the total. Mortality numbers over it spiked a little bit, very little, and it actually spiked after the vaccine roll out. Shocker shocker, right there. Yeah, Well, let's move over to here, because you just don't stop. And I love this about you. Not only are you going against the vaccines, the establishment, really working diligently for medical freedom, but you're also addressing what we've been doing to our children. And this, I mean, this makes me sick. It makes me so angry, and you as well, obviously. But what is this plot against kids? My goodness, I got two things. Oh, the plot against the kids explains the COVID tyranny what it really was, which was trying to turn our country more into a communist nation. So the six foot social distancing was a way to keep the schools closed, for example. The masking right was a way to kind of reduce emotional connection between people. It was a way to bring fear into the family. It was a way that the state had more power than the parents. For example, this is an amazing book. Nobody's written a. Book like this is the children's book, but obviously, you know, kind of also for adults to really explain what the COVID is. I haven't had a situation yet where people buy that book and then they go back and they buy ten and then give it to all of their friends. So that's what that's about. I thought, where you're going, and I think you've thought as well, is the medical mutilation of the children. So what people you know on the left really just very sick people. I don't want to say. And the left is sick, but these very sick like predators, I call them trans predators. And they call it this gender affirming care. Well that's false. It's medical mutilation, plain and simple. When you take healthy human body tissue and you do kind of a procedure on it so that tissue doesn't work, that's mutilating. It's called medical mutilation. And we have a whole underbelly of society that's like pushing this on our children. And the reason it's so dangerous is not just that child and that family. It's because it's going the heart of parental rights. Who gets say in control over children? Is it the parents or is it the state? Well, right now we're battling at the Supreme Court that it's of course the parents. We're having victories since Trump came into office, but these cases almost they really preceded Trump to arisen at the Supreme Court. But like discrematic case and my Mood versus Tailor, these cases are where parents push back and they said, no, I'm in charge. I'm in charge of my children, not you. And that's what people need to understand. If you're interested about the medical mutilation in general, you say, oh, gosh, I don't know anything about this. What is this? We did a documentary that is mind blowing. It's called What Is a Doctor? And we walk you through over the COVID to the medical mutilation, and you'll see that the entire medical industrial complex is hard at work advising ordinary people to do very, very unhealthy things. What is a Doctor? I'm definitely gonna have to watch this documentary and we'll link it in the show. But you know, this, this. Issue, this used to be the thing of horror stories, you know, the doctor Frankenstein taking body parts and creating this monster. You know, we used to do in the medical practices. We used to do things like lobotomies or blood letting. Uh. And now with our you know, our modern lens. We're like, oh, it's so archaic. I can't believe we used to. Literally, you know, drill into somebody's head and stir their brains around. Don't you think we're going to come to a point in the. Future where where science will look at this and say, I can't believe we used to experiment on our children. Yeah, actually, it's really really close. There was just a settlement yesterday. I think that the case in my mood that now they have a right to sue the school district and get an award. So and people are now turning around and they're suing the doctors and they're getting awards. Now one hundred percent, this is very This stuff was so sick and so deviant and so outside the realm of normal. It was invisible to a lot of people. But they literally were taking children and cutting off their breasts, cutting off their penises. I'm sorry from not allowed to say that word, but I am a doctor. Go ahead. They were literally giving them. Medicine so that for the rest of their life. If you were female, you never make an egg. If you're mail, you'd never make a sperm, right like, in other words, this is not infertility you can fix. You will never make sperm or egg in your life. And you're saying that a fourteen year old can make these decisions. A fourteen year old. Can decide never to breastfeed, and that either sex can decide that they're going to have a very dysfunctional sex life for the rest of their life because the physical effects leave people mostly an argasmic with an inability to have an orgasm. And you're going to tell me that a fourteen year old can consent to this, I don't think. So this is where the lorier part of me gets really, really angry. So we file a lot of Friends of the Court briefs when we explain in very explicit language exactly what it is these doctors are doing. They are Frankenstein, and you need to put them in prison and it'll stop. I completely agree with that that every single person should face significant prison time for experimenting on these children, taking advantage of the youth, of their emotionalism. And you know, when I look at this doctor Gold, it's like if I were to come to you and say, I am Donald Trump. I believe I'm Donald Trump, I'm the president of the United States, you would say, you know, you probably need to go through some mental health counseling. There's obviously see an issue here. But if I were to come to your average doctor and say, I'm a girl, I don't care if I have this beard, I am a woman one hundred percent, they would oh, absolutely you are. They would affirm that, and let's get you into the treatment. Where's the disconnect, right, It's really shameful the doctor's role in this. They need to be going to prison, So the doctors need to stop it. There are doctors that make a lot of money in this. They've lost their minds, And it's also not at all benign. It turns out that if you let these children who are confused go through normal puberty, it actually cures their confusion so to. The extent that they're confused, to the extent that. It's not just all social pressure and social acceptance and positive rewards for going down this path, of which there's plenty of those positive rewards, the vast majority, I'm talking about ninety five percent. When they go through puberty, when they get the hormones that they're supposed to get at the corporate agent time, it actually solves these confused thoughts and feelings. How do you like that they're actually withholding the thing that actually makes the child better for their own deviant gain. And by the way, many of the doctors who engage in this have tremendous problems of their own when you dive into their background. It's shameful. Yeah, I mean, just just talking to any parent out there, there comes a period of time, right when puberty hits the teenage years, where your child really changes they go from being this wonderful kid, you love them to death, and all of a sudden they become kind of annoying almost. You know, they're like they know everything. They're rebellious, and you're like, oh my gosh, just get me through this. And you know, as they grow, as they age, they come back to being that child that they were. That's the same personality. And this is the point where all these doctors are saying, right now, where the hormones are spiking, where everything's just insane, we let them make life decisions or life changing decisions. Yeah, and it's even worse, it's just oh, it's so you have no idea how bad it is. Our government is, our certain state governments are enabling this. So there's a case going on right now in Colorado Podre I think, or Powdre and the counselors in Colorado. There's a law that says that you cannot talk about biological truth. So if a child or family comes to you and they've confused, and let's say the family is a Christian family and they said, doc, can you help us? We do therapy and da da da, And if the therapist is also Christian, for example, or just normal, normal thoughts. Sane wants to actually explain, there's two sexes, there's XX, there's x y. They can lose their license. How do you like that? So it's not just. This transpredator kind of fetish stuff. It is restricting the livelihood. We've heard that before. It's restricting the livelihood by making the doctor widget in a government machinery. So that case right now is on appeal in America's Frontline Doctors has filed and MIKI briefs in that and we should win and we should push the states back. Can you imagine that the state is telling licensed doctors you actually can't talk about biological truth? And let me put on my lawyer hat for a minute. There's a concept in the law called viewpoint viewpoint discriminate. You're not allowed to have viewpoint discrimination. There's times the government can constrain someone's speech. Right, you can't, you'll fire in the theater for example. Right, But you're not allowed to constrain one viewpoint and favor another viewpoint. So that's of course what they're doing. They're saying that you can talk about the gender affirm and care or the medical mutilation side, but you actually can't even talk about biological reality. I mean, it's enough to make your head spin anyway. So we do those fights because we have to push back on this kind of tyranny. What are the word is there but tyranny. It is. Whether you preface it with medical, it is all tyranny. That's exactly what they're engaging in. As you said, it's dystopian, and I, for one, I don't care. About my truth or your truth. I care about the truth, and the truth is you're born one of two sexes. Your male or your female. You can't change that. And if you attempt to do so through modern science techniques, if you want to call them that, I call it Frankenstein's monster. Personally, all you're going to do is cause of a massive harm to the body. Let me just share a fact that's going to change everyone's perspective on how they think about this. Every cell in your body, and I'm excluding the very very very rare people who have chromosomal abteromaladies, is very tiny. Every cell in your body is either xx or x Y. Every cell in your body billions and billions of cells. That's not changing. Whether you cut something off in a plastic surgery procedure, because plastic surgeons are often the ones who do these procedures. Or you give that person estrogen or testosterone, that estrogen or that testosterone is hitting an XX or an xy cell. Do you understand like there's something wrong with a doctor or a lay person who thinks you can change something that is in every single selling. It's in your liver cells, it's in your heart cells, it's in your brain cells, it's in your fingernail cells. So that reality is the kind of information that we share with the Supreme Court justices because it's like it shifts how you. Think about when you say there's not my truth. In your truth, there's the truth. That's the truth. Every cell is either xx or x y and nothing a plastic surgeon can do is going to change that. You know, it's just kind of a question. And I know we're coming down towards the end of the interview, but and it may be too early to actually decipher this, but as we're playing around with this with giving people testosterone or estrogen, would you expect as a doctor that their life would actually be shortened? Oh? Yes, there's a lot of evidence to show that. So some women, some girls. Really, they get osteoporosis at a very young age. The result in a situation of a girl who broke her hip because she was like twenty or something. Absolutely. And the other thing is that when you put a girl in testosterone after I think it's about two years, those changes are permanent. Once she has voice changes, she can never get it back, even when she wants to de transition. Also, testosterone is a very powerful steroid and it kind of alters your mind, right, so it affects your ability to even make decisions and think it's horrific. I'm telling you, what is a doctor dot org? You must watch this movie. It's it's it'll blow your mind. Yeah, that's interesting, And I'm sorry everything you're saying is making me have more questions. And I'm sorry I'm holding you a little bit longer. But we just saw a shooting, a trans shooting in Canada, and I know that a lot of people have made correlations between what they're doing to their emotions, mixing it with the estrogen of the disosterone. Is that, in your opinion, why we've seen an uptick in transgender violence and shootings. Yeah? No, you First of all, one thing I learned in this journey is the vast majority of kids that are on this track have another undiagnosed I have another psychiatric diagnosis. I didn't realize that. In the beginning, there's autism, as anxiety, there's depression, and as soon as they get tracked, which is usually in the first visit on the transpath, all those other problems are ignored. It's unbelievable, and so they'll have this, this, and this problem totally ignored. They're put on meds, they put on hormones, they wake up in a whole different, altered reality. They're being kind of socially affirmed that they're doing this popular thing, and they're more depressed than ever. On a cocktail of medicines with additional medical problems. Of course there's going to be more violence. Wow, it really does make you angry that they would do this too. Really, our most precious resource, our kids. So doctor Gold, once again, I'm sorry for holding you a little bit longer, but just such a fascinating interview. You're an amazing guest. Let's bring up your two websites here, doctor Simone, goold dot com ladies and gentlemen. Great website. This is where you can get the books. I'm not seeing the documentary. Perhaps, doctor Gold, you can. Direct us to that what is a doctor dot org? We stream it for free. What is a doctor dot org? Okay, so we have what is a doctor dot org where you can watch the documentary. I know what I'm going to be doing. And then also I want. To point everybody to Goldcare dot com. Doctor Gold, I know you want to talk about this, so please tell everybody how they can get in contact with you through goldcare dot com. I invite every single person listening. I built it for you. You want to have a doctor who won't lie to You want have a doctor's unbiased. You want to have a second opinion, know that it's accurate. Do you want to get off of medication? Maybe you're on lipatory and you wonder if you really need to take it for twenty years. Maybe you wanted about hormone replacement. Maybe you warndering about a zembic. We've got the answers. It's a small subscription every month, it's seventeen dollars per person, and you get this unbelievable platform. I invite everybody, and not only that, you get the first month on me and The reason is is because I want people not to live in medical fear anymore. Goldcare dot com slash doctor Gold d r Gold and the first month is on me caven with. That seventeen dollars a month, doctor Goal to. Get access to all of this. It's incredible. This is a mission for me. This is a mission. Wow. That is incredible and really shows the character of who you are. You're not trying to make it rich off of all of your clients here, You're offering it for seventeen dollars. That's literally nothing, Doctor Gold. Any last words for our. Audience, just you know what, be happy, be joyful, don't be depressed, don't be overwhelmed. There's amazing people out there with great resources. Have dinner with friends and family. That's another very healthy tip. Have dinner with friends and family, and God bless you live your best life. I absolutely love that. All Right, well, I'm gonna go ahead and close this out. If you hold on one more minute post production, Sarah, goodbyes. I'd appreciate it. But thank you again for your time, your work, your advocacy, I said in the beginning of the show. But to a lot of people in the medical health movement. You are a hero. Thank you absolutely. All right, ladies and gentlemen, there you go take charge of your health. Do something that you don't have to go to a doctor. You know, fifteen minutes is the max amount of time. And they're basically just writing out a script as you're talking. Did they even hear what you were saying? Your concerns, your observations. Now get out of that system, ladies and gentlemen, and go find some doctor that will actually take care of you, but actually listen to you and actually care about your health. And I think Goldcare dot com is a great source for you right there. 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