Church & State -Mama Bears Rising with Jessica Brassington

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So tell us you know, obviously there's there's been a Mama Bear movement for a while now, but tell us why you got involved here. What was the catalyst? You were talking a little bit off there with twenty twenty. I assume that might have been the beginning of this. Yes, that was the beginning of what is now known as Mama Bear's Rising. But I've been an advocate for several decades now for speaking up for our veterans against child trafficking, and I'm no stranger to speaking truth and not caring, you know, who else is joining me? Right, So when twenty twenty came around, because of my holistic health background, I was privy to remdesevir that was being used in the protocols, and so I started speaking out on my platforms and I was like, wait a second, y'all. Something's not right here, you know. And when I did that, other people started come in to me and saying, hey, please don't say anything, but you know, my husband's in the military, he doesn't want to get this shot. Or I'm a doctor or a nurse and I'm being told to get the shot or lose my job. So I live in Montgomery, Texas, outside of Houston, and so the hospitals there Methodist that was the first to actually implement this. So I become friends since then with some of the whistleblowers. And nurses and doctors. But then teachers started saying, Okay, there's these books in my classroom. They're not coming for me, but they're having inappropriate things. And then just one thing led to another, and so everything else took a back seat because people were being murdered and lied to and children's bodies mutilated, and so Mama Bear's Rising became a movement in twenty twenty one. Officially, I absolutely love that. One of the things I advocate on this show all the time is for individuals to take action, to not have that apathetic approach of well, somebody had to do something, or even worse than that, the government how to do something. No, you saw a need as an individual, and you said, I'm gonna I'm going to step up and I'm going to do something about this. I've got connections, I've been in the field for a long time, and you know, twenty twenty I mean such a wake up call. I always say that there were silver linings because there was such a grand community that really awoke during this time period. And you're certainly a part of that. Yes, thank you. And you know, even then, even though I've never been shy about speaking out at the time, looking back, I was so ignorant of policy and legislation, especially on the local level. I had no clue what a commissioner court was. I mean, I thought our county judge was an actual judge that sat on a bench. So you know, it's and it's not that I had my head in the sand, but I got the American Legion Award in middle school, you know, so the patriotism was there, but then you have children and your homeschooling and managing your household and volunteering. And I think part of a big issue now is my generation, but definitely this next generation's lack of civic education. And when you don't you don't. Know what you don't know. And then, like me, I made I kept going until I found people and things to do. But most people just get overwhelmed and give up. They certainly do, I mean a lot of I mean, there's so many distractions in this world. You run up some positive ones. You know, there are positive distractions. Children are an incredibly positive distraction. But you know, still you can find something that you're passionate about, as you're an example of, and really roll up your sleeves and get to work, you know. I mean, this is why I do what I do with church and State. It's it's my passion. And if I can reach a few people, then awesome, I love it. If I can wake a few people up, We need more and more Americans to stop examined, especially as we're about to hit two hundred and fifty years, examine what this country is really all about. It's foundations, it's the original intent. And then I don't know, pull your head out of the sand and say, hey, this is America operating the way it's supposed to. Yeah, yeah, that's right. And it stems back to. If you do ask yourself that question, how do you even know what are you basing that off of? And there's that civic education again, right. So a dear friend of mine who's definitely a Mama Bear, rising, doctor Carrie Butler, she is starting something in America uncut. And it's not only getting civic education, but that leadership and. That community involvement and getting the young people the multimedia part component, right, connecting them with people in your local community. And I'm in something now and a cohort through I don't know if you've heard of it, the Policy Circle. And what I like about that is because I'm very much about it's not party, it's policy. I've had is I'm sure you have Caleb. At the beginning, I thought, oh, I'll just go to the politician. And one of them helped me with my friends who had loved ones in the hospital and they weren't able to see them, and all the things he did get me so far, But then as I got into that conservative groups, I quickly found that if they're not always happy if you don't fall in you know, lockstep, and I'm like, hold on now, I thought, this is what the Democrats did, which, by the way, they do that and that is why they're so successful. They blindly follow, you know. And so I saw. Early on that it's not necessarily the party, it's the policy. And so in this cohort leadership group that I'm in, they have policy briefs and we bring discussion and civil discourse with respect. And that is what we need to bring back to all generations in our nation, because if we don't know the foundation, we're not defining terms, how can we even go and find those solutions and say, hey, is this how it's supposed to operate? And if not, what can I do about it? I absolutely love that it's funny that you bring that up. I actually recorded an episode yesterday and the show was called Are You a Bot? And that's what we're currently experiencing, and not just politically, I mean inside the church, inside education, they're building bots and politically, and I can attest to this is if you fall out a line, if you're not part of the agenda. You ask questions, you have an independent mind, you can critically think, Yeah, you can find quickly find yourself on the outs. That's why I'm a libertarian, but not a part of the libertarian party. I'm just kind of done with all parties. Yes, And I think it goes back to really getting to the heart of the issues. And then that is what at least from what I've seen with the younger people, but even you know, I'm in my late forties, even my generation, they get so frustrated or turned off by the political drama and all of this, and so I encourage them, Look, do your research, connect with some great resources. And that's what Mama Bear's rising is. That's a space that I'm filling. And back to the beginning of our conversation, I did wait, Caleb for someone to speak up. When I heard Remdesevir and knew that Fauci had that morbidity rate of over fifty percent or crazier than that. I kept waiting, like, surely someone more qualified than a Montgomery housewife is going to speak up, And when they didn't, I said, Okay, well, maybe God's asking me to do. This, and so. I think it's important just to say create a path that we're not going to do all that nonsense here, but you do need to be informed. So at Mama Bear's Rising, we say where moms go to be informed, not influenced. Start with the information and these different topics for what's keeping you up at night, and then it's up to you to go from there and use your brain that God gave you, think critically, ask questions, and then. You know, start from there. But people speaking of bots, there's the human bots that they want us to be robots, but then there are the more and more AI bots that are on social media. People aren't trusting it. And that's where community. This face to face, this relationship equity is so important. And I really think the pendulum shifting, especially with the younger generation, to wanting to go back to more basics and talk to people that they actually know in real life. And so that's what I'm excited about. If we have to look for the silver linings. Yeah, no, I love everything that you just said there, and I agree with you. The younger generation, you know, there's always this you know, kind of get get off my lawn mentality. Older generations looking at the younger ones, going, oh, they're messing everything up. Well, your parents said the same thing about you, so but no, the younger generation is is actually getting me very excited. They're moving away from this. They're getting tired of constantly being on social media. They're literally replacing their phones with dumb phones like flip phones are coming back, and I'm so excited to see something like that. Let me get into your pillars here, because I really want the audience to become not only familiar with your organization, but I want them to join. We got a lot of ladies that like this show, and I want them to join Mama Bear's Rising. So when I'm looking at the pillars here, we start with faith. Can you tell us exactly what that looks like. Yes. So faith is the backbone and the foundation of everything that I do. So I have a biblical worldview. So that is going to that lens that I'm looking at the world through, is going to affect my values where I stand on things, and so I am not shy about saying it's faith. I am a Christian. I'm a believer in Jesus Christ. I believe that he is my savior. He was born crucified, buried, and rose again, and He is the way, the truth, and the life and. The only way. So I do not apologize for that. However, this is the big butt, right. I think a lot of people that I've met as truth speakers, especially in twenty twenty, a lot of them share truth, but they're lacking the love. So it is that heart posture that I approach things with, and so does Mama Bear's rising that we have hope in Jesus Christ and we always lead with love. Now that doesn't mean I'm going to sugarcoat and not tell you the truth. So that is what I believe is so important about the faith. That's the first pillar. Everything else is from that, absolutely, and I think that's a beautiful approach. Likewise, I've experienced a lot of truth seekers and some of them want to carry a very big stick and just whack you over the head with that, And that's really, honestly not the approach. Coach. This world is hurting you and I both know it, the audience knows it, and we need to share a lot more love. And because that was the overall I mean, that's the message of Christ is love. I mean, it's his commandments to love your neighbor as yourself and if we're just literally whacking people, we're going to drive them away. So hats off to you on that one printal authority. You know, this is a very big issue, and I applaud you for homeschooling your kids. My kids are in private school, and I tell people all the time, get your kids out of public education, please, especially as a Christian. They're not being the salt and light. You're sending them into war and they're not prepared for that. So let's talk a little bit about prontal authority. Yeah. So, actually, I've done a mix of government school, public, government school, private, and homeschool throughout my journey. I believe every child is different and honestly, every year can be different. And so I live in Texas. I'm so thankful for the freedoms I have in Texas regarding that. And so I've done a mix. I've been through all the different things, been there, got my T shirt, have my wounds from government school for sure, took on all the way up to the school board with some issues that happened with my oldest daughter. And you know, Caleb, the response that I kept getting when I would find these things was change the legislation. We're you know, we're here, we need it change. And so that was even before Mama Bears Rising. And so I agree, parents, we are the decision makers. I had the principal at my local government school say, when the kids are here, we are the parents, and I said, no, sir, I'm the parent one hundred percent of the time. However, that is a lesson for what it truly is, are we in charge of our children when they're there? Because I tell you one thing right now, the books and the guard that are in those schools and the physical violence that happens in a school, that same act and those same books would be considered they would have legal consequences if it were off of the property. So that leads one to say, what all is happening in these schools? And why do our local law enforcement not have the same powers if it's on that property versus the convenience store down the street. So that that should alone should really concern parents. But yes, parents are the end all be all, and we have to make sure that we make that known and that we understand what's happening and that we're we're the biggest influence of our children, and the way to do that is to be around them the most of their childhood. They're they're waking. Hours right absolutely, And you know, there's so much more to this parental authority as well. I appreciate what you're saying about education, and I kind of jumped the gun because but they're kind of aligned parental authority and education. But there's also that online concern. And one of the things that breaks my heart is when I go and I see parents and their children at ten years old, nine years old, and they have cell phones, and I'm like, what are you doing? Like, do you understand how much garbage is coming at your children, how much influence is happening through that cell phone. Can you talk a little bit about the online privacy issues and the rights and the authority that a parent has in dealing with those. Yeah? Sure, So, my girl. My daughters are now on I'm kind of that next almost that empty nester phase. Now they're twenty two, twenty one, and seventeen, and my youngest just finished her high school credit last month. She chose to do that a year early. But so I kind of was on the cusp of when I remember then oldest, my oldest daughter, who was then in sixth grade, said everyone has phones, and I remember thinking, oh, you know, and this is when she I put her in government school, and then I quickly saw yes, everyone had phones. And it seems like since then all the other younger children had phones. Even earlier, they have made some changes. It was big on Apple made some changes here recently, and someone interviewed me about that. But to that, I say, it's kind of like you're trusting the person who profits from the technology and the use. To make these changes. So while that's great, I don't want parents to think, oh, okay, I'll put these parameters and then I can let my child go free. Because a lot of the work that I do and partner with organizations to fight child trafficking, it's not usually that big scary guy in the white van. It's online, and children don't understand a lot of times that there's bad people out there and they're manipulating them and doing things in a way that they're just not ready to handle. And so that is a really scary thing to know. And then as a parents, it's overwhelming because it's like, now, you know, I don't know what to feed my kids. This is bad. This is good. Wait, no, this is bad. And now you know, I'm having to worry about what's being injected into my kid, what school, and now I'm going to navigate this. So it is overwhelming. And I just tell parents, like our discussion I think before this started, there's no easy way around it. It's just to be involved, to set parameters that work for you and your family, and just be okay, knowing you you might be the only ones that are doing that and instilling in your child that you know, they may not be able to do things that their other friends aren't that their other friends are doing. Yeah, and here's the thing. You're going to grow up and do things that the other people aren't doing because you've been raised, right, You've been raised to not be distracted by these screens. I mean I look around society and people are literally, uh you know, walking into lamp poles and walking into traffic because they're staring at their screens. And if I can raise my children to where that's not the normal, then they're gonna do great things. So I'm right there with you. My kids, my oldest is fourteen, my youngest is nine. They don't have cell phones, and I'm gonna be I'm going to be that parent, so and I like that about myself. So gender ideology as well. You know, this is a big issue, it seems to me. And and please correct me if you think I'm wrong here, but it seems to me that they kind of jumped the shark a little bit on this one where they really really pushed an agenda, and a lot of Americans, regardless of political affiliation, said that's that's a bridge too far for me. Now, certainly there's pockets, there's areas like San Francisco where I was born, where no, it's it's the norm. But I think generally across America people are getting real tired of this being shoved down our throats. Yes, I think, and I and I saw some of your stickers on your laptop, so I have the no balls and women's stalls sticker on my other my other laptop, So that shows you what I think about that. But yes, I think in a lot of ways that you know, as bad as it is, I think people needed to see that to say hold on, now, this is this is how far it will go when you have an agenda, and especially when profits are involved, and I always say, follow the money, right, it's big pharma. These uh, these children and some and adults. But even more so what I speak on is the children they get, they're told these things, they're indoctrinated, then they're put on hormones lifelong you know, uh patients, and then they have these surgeries and we bought those here in Texas, actually Texas Children's I don't know if. You saw that. Finally and they were had, they had to pay a certain amount and now they have to get help for these transitioners. And the whistleblower, doctor e. Tom Haim, is from Texas, and Vanessa Savage, a nurse here, spoke out against that. But it's like that's great, kind of like the phone thing, but what about all these children who have been affected? And so I think it was a good wake up call for parents to say, welly, I may not want to be involved in politics or have us you know, want to talk about people's sexual orientation, but you've gone too far. I don't know if you saw the Supreme Court, there was a. Victory there and they did say, you know, we have here in Texas our Republican running for attorney general, senator Mace Middleton. He was with the Save Women's Sports Act, and so you are seeing that you're pushing. People too far. But that is just a sign to let people know that we can't be apathetic and wait till it gets to this point, like are you going to wait again until you know you're liberties are trampled upon and you're told you can't go to work and you have to put poison in your body against your will, and so yeah, I think it's just another example of how far it will go. And they're going to see how far people will be pushed before they speak up. So let's not give them any more room. It's just there's no room for that anymore. Well said on that one. You know, that's something I advocate all the time on the show, is when is enough enough? Like you have these God given rights and take them. Don't tell the or don't allow the government to tell you. No, we control that. No. Get familiar with your rights, your God given rights, the Declaration, the Bill of Rights, and start utilizing them. And that leads me into education here. Now we've kind of touched upon this a little bit, but was there anything else that you wanted to say about advocating for your children in the education sphere. Yes, I would say the same thing. Know your rights there. Vaccines is a big one, especially here in Texas. I've supported Texans for vaccine choice since I found out about them. They're also informed consent. And just knowing that, knowing that if you are going to send your child to a government school, read the fine print, know the process, not when you need it, like I did. You know, I had a horrible situation with one of my daughters and then I'm now counting on the school to kind of tell me back then, you know what the procedures were, And so I would say, if you're going to go that route, be involved and understand what you're getting into and know your rights in your state. All right, fantastic. Now we've been talking like we've been hitting upon the family wellness and I love that you're so bold on this one because I tell people all the time on the show, don't get vaccinated like these. Some of these are just literally poison. And you know, the nineteen eighty six Act, unfortunately, signed by Reagan, has made it to where you cannot soothe the manufacturers. This should make you scratch your head. Ladies, and gentlemen. So please, I don't want to be the guy, you know, taking all the words here tell us about family wellness and why this is such an important issue. Yes, so I'm a certified holistic health coach. So I was the crazy mom before MAHA was mainstream, getting the moms to go to the Chick fil a and get the comment cards and telling them to remove ingredients. So I was that mom when I found out what GMOs were genetically modified organisms from Vanny Harry. She'll see her a lot now because she's taken on Kellogg's and glyc of State. But this was, you know, twelve thirteen years ago when I had a blog, And so I'm happy to see that. MAHA is becoming more mainstream. And although it has a ways to go, it's brought it to attention. Even the young men and teens that I talked to, they're starting to speak up. And so family wellness is so broad, right, It's from being a leader and make it in your home and making better decisions with the foods that you're putting on your table. But then also for sure you can go to the extreme with these vaccines. And I try to tell people stop waiting for the authorities and again people benefiting from this to tell you the truth or what it is. It's do the research, think for yourself, ask for the ingredients. If your health care provider is giving you issues, it's time to fire that person and get a different health care provider. And remember that this is your life and your body a lot. Like we've said before, once you can you can always do the vaccine later, but once it's done, it's done. And it's kind of the same for your child's education. Right, You've got a long way in that childhood to educate your child, so why not start one way. You can always change add or send them to government school. But then once they're exposed, you could apply that to the phone. Right, Once they're exposed to these things, it's done. But you can always add these things in later. But really look at the ingredients. Would you. I just always started saying, if you put even a fraction of those things in a cup and swirled it around and put some water in it, would you drink that cup? What was in that cup? And for me, that's going to be a hard no. And so if you don't want to take the time to see what ingredients you're literally injecting into your body and your child's body. Then maybe that's time to think about your role as a parent and where you stand on what you're doing in your child's life. Yeah, once again, I completely agree with you. I'm going to bring up the website. We're coming up on a hard break here and I want to talk a little bit more about the family well onness side of this when we come back from the break. But real quick, let's bring up the website here, Chris Mama bearsarising dot com. I want everyone that's watching the show to go to this right off the bat. You can sign up, grab you're quieting the noise guide here. I love that absolutely. It's easy. First name, last name, email address, and phone number. But fill this out, ladies and gentlemen, and get in contact with Jessica here and we've hit that brake. Ladies and gentlemen. I want all of you to be a walking billboard. 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These kinds of conversations, So please hit that donate button. With that, let's go ahead and go back to Jessica, our guest, Mama Bear's rising, and we were talking about family wellness, and I so appreciate your bold take on this because you're absolutely right. There is so much poison and it's in everything. It's in our air, it's in our water, it's in our food supply. It's the Big Pharma. I mean, you look at these doctors. Why do you think Big Pharma spends so many billions of dollars courting these physicians, bringing them donuts and coffees and all this stuff. Why do you think that is? Ladies and gentlemen, it's because they want to keep us sick. They want to keep it. I say it all the time on the show. A sick society is one that's so easy to control. What do you say, Jessica, I totally agree. They want to keep us, you know, obese, dumb, literally dumb distracted, because they're easier to subdue and to con And you'll notice if you have started making these changes. And yes, I know it could be so overwhelming. You know, well, this is organic, Well really it's not organic, you know, obviously the best is to buy if you can know your rancher, know, you know, get your own chickens. Rite and eggs. But if you can't do that, at least get to know your local community. We have a lot of farmers' markets and ranchers in Texas where I live, so that's been great that at least get to know that. But if you start making these changes and stop eating as much crap all the time and these chemicals and dies, you will start noticing. You're more alert, you feel better, and if you feel better, you have more energy to actually do the hard brain work that's required to be an informed citizen nowadays. And so I think you're totally right, Caleb. I mean it's you have to look at this as a war, because it is. It's a spiritual battle. It's a spiritual war. It's a war for our mind, minds, our souls, and our children. And so I think when you look at it through that lens, warriors need to be healthy, and the healthier you are, the more you bet, the better decisions you can make. Yeah, once again, I completely agree with you. And you know, just as we close on that subject, the vaccines, ladies and gentlemen like this is such a big issue to me, and I've had so many people on the medical freedom side on this show, Dell Big Tree, doctor Peter McCollough, individuals that are they're giants in this well in this attack against the industry. I was about to say in the industry, but attack against the industry is more appropriate. Read those ingredients. Once again, you know, you I go back to what you were talking about with biblical worldview. I look at what God created and I don't think he made a mistake. I don't think he made it. And it was like I'm going to make them, you know, in my image, except for if they want to survive this world, they got to get a back or are they got to be on drugs, you know, or medications. No, clearly that's not the case. God made us in his image. And if we do eat right, if we maintain our health and we stay away from sugars and you know, make sure that we have a healthy body weight, I think we're going to be okay. Yes, is this world fallen? It is? And is there a lot of things that can kill you on this world? Yes there is, but don't add to it by getting a vaccine. Yeah, it's kind of. Like, don't make it easy on the enemy. Right, And I'll give you a quick example for your listeners who maybe are you know, kind of on the fence or once again, it's all about being informed. In Mama Bear Rising, we want you to know grow and show no, you're not alone, because I felt alone for so long and so many things right, whether it was homeschool or eating healthier or then definitely speaking out against. The COVID hospital protocols. So we want you to know you're not alone, grow in your faith, health in mom journey, and then show others. Don't keep it. To yourself, and you can do that through mentorship in the community. But I think for that person out there that's that's scared, because this has been the biggest psychological in my opinion, psyop of fear and killing Grahama. If you don't do this, killing your kids and it's on you. But one example, I'll take My grandson is seven months, beautiful baby, and they told my daughter to get him circumcised. He had had to get the vitamin K shot. And I said, there should have been a comma there because there's some alternatives. One was an alternative for a preservative free. They're not going to tell you that it's a pain. They have to know and ordered ahead of time. And two could wait a certain amount of days. Right for God, in his infinite wisdom, go figure, he created our bodies in a way that when you are born, it's created to be able to if there's injuries and things like that. Right. So, but if you wait within that amount of time I think it's seven or eight days, then you can get their circumcision. But circumcision. But see here there's so many half truths and it's like we need the comma or the butt in there. And so that's where being informed comes in and knowing the right questions and The way to do that is to be around either people who are in the trenches with you going through these situations, or who have been where you are and have the heart of a teacher and want a mentor. And that's why it's important you know back and I have a Facebook group. Could I kept saying I was getting off of Facebook and all that, but before that's where. You did that. That's why I. Think more and more people are going to these in person relationships and communities that. They can trust. And so that's what upsets me is when you're not informed. My daughter did choose to do the vitamin K. That's the only one she chose. Out of fear. And this is what happens even with me as a mom. But again I said, you're the parent. Now I'm going to give you the information. And I think that's a whole other thing that grandparents. We need that community too, because now as our children become parents, how do you inform and stay connected? And so many things has divided families. So that's where I stand on that, and it's these half truths that I just I cannot tolerate. Yeah, I completely agree. If you go to your doctor and they're hitting you with fear, it's time to find a new doctor. Last one is for your pillars anyway, a civic engagement, and obviously we've talked a little bit about this during the interview, but this is such an important one to understand where your rights come from. To read the founding documents once again, two hundred and fifty years we're about to celebrate it, ladies and gentlemen. Now would be the perfect time to read through the Declaration of Independence to see what this country was all about and to understand where are rights coming and why. One of the things I love about the Declaration of Independence, Jessica, is these twenty seven grievances that are spelled out in there, And as I read through those, I'm like, oh, that's happening now, and oh that one's happening now too. Our founding fathers would have been horrified by what our government has turned into. Well, they'd have been like, what are these pansies doing? You know, like how is everyone allowing these things to happen? And then especially to their children, and not only their children, but just women and children in general. And that's something I've been very. Vocal about for years, way before Mama Bear's Rising was speaking against all this garbage about toxic masculinity. It's like, I want our men in America to be very masculine, because a true masculine man will not sit by and allow women and children to be harmed. And so I think it's important to know that. But also I want to encourage the listener who is maybe where I was, didn't know where to start. We don't have to know all of that, all of the things, and not to allow our egos or embarrassment to get in our way, because what we've found with the people that they're surveying is they're less they're more likely to be apathetic and not engage if they don't know all the answers. And it's like, you got to start somewhere. And so there's a lot of even free resources out there. You know, Hillsdale College, I was just retaking their. Constitution one on one. I don't know everything either, but it's where when are we going to start? And so the two. Hundred and fiftieth year, you know, I've spoken to people from different countries and I always say, go live in one of these communist countries and see how long you last, and see how much you love America. We are far from perfect. But you know what the great thing is, we can change that if we the people show that we are not happy with it. But what I've seen time and time again, when it's maybe been two or three moms and me and then the other opposition side is showing up in droves, these elected officials are going to say, well, apparently these things aren't as important to the you know, to the people, so it's up to us, So stop complaining and get out and do something about it. You're absolutely right, And politicians are a fickle bunch. They're fear driven as well, and more than anything else, they want to retain their power, right, their money, and their power. And so if the opposition is showing up in droves, which way do you think that politicians going to vote, Because unfortunately, we don't have statesmen anymore. We don't have people that are like, no, this is right, this is my true north, this is what the constitution allows me to do, and I'm going to stay within those confines. We don't have that anymore. We have people that it's a popularity contest and they just want to stay popular. And if that's the case, then it means that we as conservatives, as libertarians, as people who just love freedom, we need to band together and get in front of those people. Yes, I agree. And then I've been in DC quite a bit this year and I was just there last week, but I was meeting with the lady with the Republican Women's Caucus and Congresswoman Camick, which is she's out of Florida. She's been getting a little a lot of attention for what she's been speaking up about and saying, hey, y'all need to do your job in. The Senate and hold them accountable. But it's right. So if you it's a perfect example, go to them. Let all those congresswomen know how you feel. But we've got to be speaking up. And they are. People are noticing moms because we're not stopping. We're affecting the markets, and we're hitting people and companies in their pocketbook. And that's why I said, you be the leader of your home, the decisions you're making. Let your physicians know, Okay, you're fired, you know I'm leaving, and speak their language. Sometimes you have to speak their language in a way to get their attention. And you can do that with respect, but it needs to be hey, we're not going to take this and this is the choice that I'm making instead. Same with the the school system, right, it's they get paid to have these children in the seat. So guess what if you're not liking something, take your child out of those seats and then you'll get their attention. Yeah. Absolutely, I mean I think when I'm looking at your pillars, the foundations that biblical worldview, knowing where you know that God is the king of this universe, he created all. Jesus Christ, his son is your savior. That is essential. And then the free market, right, and that's really what you're talking about here, is when it comes to the schools, you can say, you know what, I don't like what you're teaching, so you're fired. I'm quitting this school. I'm taking my kids out, I'm homeschooling them, I'm putting them in a private school or a co op. That's the free market. It's the solution. When we look at these doctors, if they're telling you you have to get this vaccine or I'm not going to see you anymore. Okay, wow, threaten me with a good time, go and find because there are free market doctor's physicians nurses that are out there that are on our side of this. So please, ladies and gentlemen, get informed, know where your rights come from, know God, and start utilizing the free market to take back our power. Yes, and that's where in Mama Bear's Rising, Like I said, we'll have Mama mentors in there, and people are just so overwhelmed. They don't know want to spend hours scrolling, they don't really a lot of them don't want to be on social media to get their information. So speak to people that are in the trenches and with you or have been there. And then we will have Mama Bear University launching next year and that is more for that mom who wants to go deeper learn more about one of the pillars. And we're going to have some amazing resources in there, and so I hope that the mamas will join us. Yeah. Absolutely, So we're winding down at the end of the interview, so I'm going to go back to the website again, Chris, if you'd bring that up for us, Mamabearrising dot com please check it out. Sorry, Mama Bear's risingologized for that, but Jessica, just in the last minute here tell people why they should get get in contact with you. Yeah, so at the very least, to have someone who's been where you've been and has a heart for a mom. Let me know if you I'm an a Fearce advocate. If I don't have the answer, I most likely have a resource or someone who can help you. This is my passion. I've funded it myself. We're not a nonprofit. I'm a company with the cause and my heart is for that mom and our freedom and nation. So no, you're not alone. Come grow on your journey. And if you're if you're a mentor who wants to give back. We want you in there too. Fantastic. Well, I've so enjoyed this interview. It's been it's just been awesome. It's refreshing to talk to somebody that just gets it and is taking action. So for the audience, once again, please go to Mama Bears Rising dot com. Fill out the form get in contact. I support this organization. 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