Church & State -Sacrificing Humanity with Indy Pederson

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Thank you for having me. It's nice to be on the tails of Mike Adams. Yeah. You know, Mike Adams, uh, Definitely a personal hero for me. That was a big one for us. But I'm real excited to be talking to you about the UFOs and this phenomenon that we're seeing. And you've done a lot of studying here, and I'm just going to jump right into it. These UFOs or UAPs, whatever you want to call them, they oftentimes will be found at nuclear sites. Is that correct? Yeah, that's correct. I interviewed a lot of military people. I can go through the long list. I don't want to bore you. Just a couple of the big ones in Cheyenne Mountain, a lieutenant colonel and two generals inside the mountain. I was also in the launch control center in Missouri and Banger Nuclear Submarine Base in Washington. And I interviewed missileers. And I interviewed people in Moscow, too, including the head of the nuclear start agreements, Colonel Jablonski. But I interviewed the missileers and the Minuteman sites, and three of them were telling me, and this is corroborated by a massive, thick tome, 600-page, spent his entire life doing it, Robert Hastings, he went out and interviewed even more people than I interviewed. So I corroborated his work. And of those, I asked ChatGPT, you know, of the hundreds of cases that Robert Hastings documented of these incursions on nuclear equities. That's what they called them in the congressional hearings. Nice euphemism. Which is our launch control sites and other Excuse me. It's a lot of smoke in the air here. The other nuclear equities, everything from uranium development all the way up to the launch control sites, they've been very, there's an affinity between UFOs and these sites. But of the hundreds of incursions on our launch control sites and other military sites, I asked Chapiti, How many times did how many incursions were there? So it's hundreds. And then of these hundreds, how many could have potentially caused nuclear war? And it said 10 to 20. Wow. Wow. That's that's pretty frightening. Let me back you up here for a second, though, sir, because this is fascinating. You've been inside some of these facilities. You've been in Cheyenne Mountain. And can you tell the audience what that was like? Actually, the most interesting one was not Cheyenne Mountain. Well, actually, there's a couple of things interesting about Cheyenne Mountain. I asked one of the questions because there's a lieutenant colonel and two generals there. So I took advantage of the opportunity since they're there to ask them a lot of very interesting questions. One, I said, well, what would happen if a Russian SS-18, you know, it's right in the word itself, the number. were to hit Cheyenne Mountain. And he said, well, Cheyenne Mountain would instantly become Cheyenne Valley. And I said, well, what good is Cheyenne Mountain then? You built this thing at the cost of hundreds of millions of dollars inside of a mountain. They said it was obsolete. Russia developed the SS-18. And the nuclear weapons now, They use the Hiroshima bomb as just a little trigger because they're fission fusion bombs. The little fission trigger is like a fraction. It's a thousand times less than the biggest ones. So imagine the thousand times Hiroshima. Yeah, that was one of the more interesting ones. The other was going into Launch Control Center in Missouri. And when I was there, it takes a lot of effort to get in these facilities, first of all. They do background checks for months, and you get on a list. And any citizen can do it. It just takes an enormous amount of effort and time that most people are not willing to go through. But they do thorough background checks on you. And I get in there, and I After my thorough background check, I'm shocked to see the sign-in list where I have to sign in my name and put all my details on. It's page after page after page of long lists of Russians. What? That doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. No. And then you go down this elevator. It goes down and down and down. And you go through these corridors at a right angle. turns in solid rock, you know, for blast waves. And you get to the launch control center with the big monitors up on the above you. And I looked at the monitors and I saw at the time, this has been changed since the start agreements, but at the time, hundreds of, I couldn't count them all, there's too many, hundreds and hundreds of ICBMs hidden in farmers' cornfields. And I thought of a prophecy that I had heard, because I looked at all the prophecies across all the Christian religions. And there's one about there won't be a single inhabitant left alive in Missouri, Illinois, and Iowa, and not a yellow dog to wag its tail. And there I was looking at Missouri and Illinois and Iowa downwind, and hidden in these farmers' cornfields were hundreds and hundreds of these ICBM silos, which were first strike targets. And immediately that came to mind, and I had this picture come to my head of these missiles ascending. It's out of, I think it was the day after or something like that. I can't remember the movie, during the 70s, 80s, where these missiles are ascending on columns of vapor And there's this moment of the void where everyone's stunned in absolute silence. So there's complete stunned silence, the moment of the void where these missiles are sending in columns of vapor and everyone knows they come awake oh my gosh in 30 minutes of silence in heaven there's going to be the return and then they all of a sudden go into mass panic but. Sure yeah yeah Fascinating. Thank you. Thank you for sharing that with the audience. Now, one of the things that you say, at least on the website anyway, I would assume you go into this in further detail in the book, is you float the idea that perhaps one of the reasons why these UFOs or UAPs are visiting these nuclear sites and oftentimes injuring or killing the personnel there is that they may be attempting to stop a nuclear war or actually Armageddon. Yeah. This is interesting because if you look at the total times that they've stopped, as in shutting down the nuclear systems, which they've done a couple times, and then they've changed the launch codes at least one time, completely changed, which means they hacked the system. I used to work at Google and, you know, the word computer glitch is just a complete misnomer. Computers, especially systems that have got triple backup systems, don't glitch. They do what they're programmed to do unless they're taken over by an outside force. In this case, they were, especially having the launch codes literally changed. I can imagine. Truly. There's been instances where the government and the propaganda media have come out and said that we were this close to launching a nuclear missile. And they claim that it was through diplomacy or whatever. Somebody's on a phone call with the Russians. Hey, we're not going to bomb you. Okay, it's the president. Do you believe that some of these were actually stopped by the UAPs? No, there's no evidence of that. And Robert Hastings is probably the leading expert in that since he spent his entire life doing that. My experiences are different and mainly that I did interview a lot of people in a lot of different, very important sites from Moscow. It's a very long list, but not as many as he has. But he hasn't come up with any cases of that. I was in Moscow right when we came closest to nuclear war. Ironically, I was warning people, showing them the very book, because I had it in PowerPoint at the time. And, you know, they were laughing at me. Don't you know the Cold War is over? Where have you been? And, you know, things like that. Oh, this can't possibly happen. We won't let it happen. And at the very moment I was there in the winter of 95, at that very time, and had I been a little earlier, I would have literally been there at the very time it was happening. I was there, you know, like days after it happened. because my Russian visa was put off. I just had this terrible sense that something seriously bad was afoot. And I ended up in Russia in a freezing cold winter when this is happening. And I was telling the American friends there, you know, showing them my book. And they were, don't you know the Cold War is over? Where have you been? And laughing at me. And ironically, they came the closest to nuclear war, even closer, according to Peter Prye in his book, than the Cuban Missile Crisis, which is like shocking beyond belief. Because. the Russian president literally had his finger on the button and he was about to launch because he thought a Norwegian missile launch was us doing a first attack EMP strike. That's how a nuclear war would start, was with an EMP. So people are kind of oblivious to these things. But back to your earlier question when you said, are they stopping My argument is actually the opposite because the the media is picked up on the few times that they've Shut down our systems and the one time that they changed the launch codes But they haven't Discussed because it's too scary the up to 20 times they literally had us and I interviewed the missile ears on this and where they literally had our systems in a countdown, and they couldn't stop the countdown from proceeding. And the three missile leaders I interviewed in the Minuteman sites, the ones telling me the story that they had a complete mental breakdown because they thought they were literally in nuclear war. They were watching the missiles launches on their computer systems. They thought they were in a nuclear war. They were told it's not a test. This is real. And I guess they had to walk outside and saw that everything was still there to believe that it didn't happen. But in both cases, their systems were taken over. And it was written off later. Official, official story. as a computer glitch. And back to my Google days, no, that doesn't happen. Sorry. These are triple backup systems. They don't glitch. So they were taken over. And then this exact same thing happened, Hastings covers this, in Russia, that they literally couldn't stop the countdown. They shut the system down. They turned them off. They did everything. We had one similar. He reports as well. They literally tried to shut the things down and the countdown kept on going. And it wasn't until the UFO in Russia incident, which is launching on us, left that the countdown stopped. So these could have potentially caused a nuclear war up to 20 times. And that's really scary if you think about it, because our systems are on what's called LOW launch on warning alone. which takes a long time to explain, and I won't get into it. But it means a hair trigger, literally a hair trigger, and it has to be, because one high-altitude EMP burst of the center of the United States, it causes x-ray pin-down, I had this confirmed by the lieutenant colonel in NORAD, of our launch codes. And so you can't get the launch codes off. So if like when the Russian sub was sitting 30 miles off of Florida coast just recently, that was blacked out from the media. It should have been a Cuban missile crisis, but nobody knew about it. Wow. Couldn't get any more dangerous than that. I mean, literally sitting there with, you know, a sub that. It could have been completely full of nuclear weapons. And matter of fact, when it showed up in Cuba, no one examined to see if there were nuclear weapons on board. So there could have been easily. And those have SLBMs have six minute flight times. So you get one high altitude EMP burst of the center of the United States and it pins down all your ICBMs so you can't launch. And so we're going to use it or lose it. launch on warning alone state, which means it's hair trigger. It's literally like this. You got six. Minutes to make a decision. Yeah. They got it. They got to make it immediately. Like Mr. President, it is time. Uh, if we got six minutes and if you don't launch right now, yeah, we're not going to be affected. These UFOs are, are literally causing countdowns and, and they took out a, in another case, this was in, um, recreated in the, in the fictional, fictional, uh, Project Blue Book series on History Channel. They recreated the footage. So you see this ICBM launch with a dummy warhead in it. This really happened. This is reported by Hastings again. And I cover this in depth in my book, Sacrificing Humanity. I condense the few really pertinent points of Hastings from the 600 life. volumes of cases after case after case, and with my personal experiences. So my book is not a regurgitation of any other people's, but it's my personal experiences I had. And it's a completely unique book. But they had an ICBM test with a dummy warhead on, and it was recreated really well in the Project Blue Book series, which people should see. you got this ICBM going at 9,000 miles per hour. And this this orb it's over here on one side and it zaps and it goes over here and it's flying around it like a bee and around a stationary object, and it's a missile flying at 9,000 miles per hour. And it zaps it here, zaps it here, and it goes down to where, so probably, you know, if the nuke was active, it's no longer active, right? And then it goes down and takes out the whole thing, and it's gone. Incredible. That that alone could have that alone could have caused a nuclear war, because if we thought that Russia did that, it could literally started a hair trigger systems and away we go. So there's it's far more frightening the many times the 20 times, according to chat GPT pro, that it could have caused nuclear war. Incredible. I got to tell you, what you were saying really aligns a whole lot more with my faith, my eschatology, that they're trying to push us into nuclear war. I've long on the show talked about the fact that I personally believe that much of these UAPs are actually demonic in origin. And so if they're pushing us to a nuclear war, that checks off for me. You brought up the orbs as well. And I want to go into this because You've also had an incredible experience with orbs. And I've had Elia Marzulli on the show a couple of times talking about these orbs. Most people who study this or even our novices have at least seen something about these orbs. But a lot of times when people are around these orbs, They end up dying. And you've been almost face to face with one of these. And here you are to live to talk about it. Couldn't get any closer. I think as far as I know, I'm the closest that anyone has been to one of these orbs and has lived to tell about it. Not all of them kill people, though. That came up in the congressional hearings. People should watch all three of those congressional hearings because I call them in my book, Sacrificing Humanity, a Galileo moment. Because they admitted UFOs are real. They admitted Roswell happened. They admitted that they're reverse engineering these craft. They admitted that we have alien bodies. They called them biologics. Nice euphemistic word. As Nancy May said in her hearing, which was the best of the three, which you couldn't find. It was on C-SPAN and live. And for a year, it happened in 2024, I think it was. I think it was November 13th, 2024. Don't quote me on the date, but I think it's something like that. For a year, you couldn't find that hearing anywhere. Even though it had appeared on C-SPAN, I had friends looking for it, I was looking for it. It was gone. Anyway, Nancy Mace, who headed that up, Representative Nancy Mace, said, how is it that our government, the Pentagon, is denying that we have these recovered craft when we're paying huge sums of money out for people who have been injured by recovered craft? And yes, the people have been injured, and even worse, they've been killed, not just by the recovered craft, but by the orbs. And so Gary Nolan, Stanford, famous Stanford pathologist, he studied for the families of the victims for legal cases that they're in, 100 of these people, and studied their brains. And of these, 125 died. And the others had their brains seriously fried like Havana syndrome, where the brain cells turn white. And it's permanent damage. It's horrible. But I had one of these orbs right here. Two feet in front of my face. I can tell that story if you've got a minute. Please do, yeah. I think the audience is going to be really interested in this. Okay, so when I bought an island property on an island that's the size of Maui, and I had nine miles of it, and I was building a resort, a $ 60 million resort that was to be second to none. I flew down Antoine Piedoc, the number one architect in the world. He's like the Falling Water, Frank Lloyd Wright of Today. And he said, how did a gringo find this place out here in the middle? Absolutely nowhere. Not only did we fly him in at his huge retainer and all expenses for him and his team, but I had to rent a small plane to fly it into the island and get him way out there in the middle of nowhere in the boat and everything else. It's a long trip. And he's going, how did you find this place? Because it's out in the middle, absolutely nowhere. And he said, I can build you a place that the world would, you know, I know an architect could build this and it'd be world famous, but I can build you something here that the day it opens, everyone in the world would know about it. So that's what we were doing. We were building a $ 60 million resort project. And before I purchased it, the locals said, told me, you know, this island you're buying property on is a known UFO base. Yeah, well, it's a national park, but there's no entrance to it. There's no way of getting in it. You can't even take one step past the jungle. It's so thick. So it's a national park, and I had nine miles of it. I was developing the entrance, privatized entrance to the national park. and building a resort over on top of waterfalls, spectacular. Anyway, so they warned me, this is a known UFO base, locals did. And I laughed because I didn't believe in UFOs because no one could get a decent picture of one. That was explained recently in the Age of Disclosure film with all of our 12 of our, or more of our top officials, including NSA and Secretary of State Rubio and others. Pretty credible cast of people saying, well, the physicists on Earth, Hal Puthoff, who said, well, it's because they're in a space-time continuum bubble. And you're trying to take a photo through that. So, of course, it's going to be blurry as you're literally taking a picture through that space-time bubble that they're flying inside of. And then the other reason I didn't believe in UFOs is because they supposedly travel light years and then they crash, which he explained as well in that film. And that is that, well, actually, that wasn't explained in the film. That was explained by the director on the Rogan show. On Rogan, the director said where all these top officials told him, told him that we're blasting these things with EMP and knocking them out of the sky. So can you imagine blasting out a superior in technology race? You know, it doesn't work out so well in history. Actually, I got something here I want to point out that's a good parallel in history. I do need to get this story about the orb. I'm actually going to first mention this about history because I think this is relevant. Because a lot of people say, well, we've been dealing with these things for 30 years, plus 30 years or more. Now, they haven't done anything thus far. Well, I tried to explain this to people and the best analogy I can think of is in 1493, within two to three years of the time of the landing of the Spaniards, they were being killed. But that was way in the Caribbean. It's kind of like me on the front lines in Patagonia in Brazil right now. We're on the front lines, and we're witnessing the front lines and the people being killed. And I can get into that. And at the same time, in 1620, the pilgrims arrived at Plymouth. Let me pause you real quick there. 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So down in Patagonia, I've been living down there 20 years on doing developing this private island project that is a known UFO base, according to locals. I was on the front lines, so I was witnessing, and they are right, either that island or in the deep fjords is a base, no doubt about it. I witnessed the largest cattle mutilation in South American history, hundreds of cows and sheep and dozens in a single night directly across a narrow fjord from my island property. Yeah, and then plus the orb experience I'll get to in just a second. But I want to lay the context for it first. People say, well, we've been dealing with these UFOs for 30 years. They haven't done anything thus far. Well, actually, they're doing things down where we are, killing people. And I've seen the blood-curdling photos of humans, their eyes cored out and their genitals just exactly like the cows in the cattle mutilation, identical. horrible pictures that I've seen. So it's happening down there in an entire village of Cloris on another island, very similar to mine, where 400 people were attacked by UFOs and 40 ended up in the hospital with serious burns and two died. So we're on the front lines. So it's kind of like Columbus. After Columbus landed, 1493, the Spaniards were already killing a few of them. And then at Plymouth Rock, like we're sitting on Plymouth Colony up here, away from the front lines, it wasn't until 1620 that they had Plymouth Rock, and it wasn't until another 50 years that, despite periodic tensions, that anything serious happened, and then there was a turning point, and at that turning point in 1675, was the bloodiest conflict per capita in American history. So that's a good parallel. So back to my orb experience. So my business partner, excuse me, there's terrible smoke in the air where I am. Yeah, we're in a, and I'll just say this to the audience. My guest is in Oregon, I'm in Washington. There's horrible forest fires that are raging and the air quality is just awful. Yeah, the air quality is awful right now. So I've been waking up where I can barely speak. So my business partner, we're coming back from the island on the Camino Australis dirt road. It's 3 a.m., which is usually when these things are seen. They're seen in very remote areas, and between hours one and three is most common. So that's the equation for seeing these. So there wasn't anyone within 100 miles of us. We're out in National Park in the winter in the most remote region in the world other than Antarctic. And even that has bases. So this is maybe more remote in some aspects. And we pull over to sleep. And immediately, my business partner is in the back. It's a club cab. And we're going to sleep. And she goes, look at that. And then you see one of these orbs that is especially the same as what you saw in tranche four and five on the White House site. Look at those. Those are the same things I saw. It's zipping around like a star. And then it's seeing us seeing it. They can tell when they're being watched. You can see that also in the two tranches that came out recently. It comes down to the tree right next to us and hovers over the tree for a while. This whole thing took 15 minutes, so it rolls out ball lightning and a piezoelectric effect, so all other explanations are gone now. It has intelligence, so it knows where we are. It comes literally down to the side window where I am because I was going to sleep this way and put my pillow there, and I was just making my bed, and it comes up right to the side window right here. So it's two feet in front of me, and it's right there. And I can see this churning liquid reaction going on inside of some really powerful engine. And then what I've been talking about, wrote about it for a year, and nobody's believed me because nobody else has ever explained this. It just came out in May 8th of this year in one of the military files, it was a whistleblower dump, which is called anamorphousuap.mov, and it's a video file. And you can see what I saw there in that file, except mine materialized more. It was just like Scotty beamed me up, and literally an alien being started materializing right there in front of me from that orb. Yeah, wow. And it's called anamorphous, not amorphous, but anamorphous. You can look up the term. It's a biological term. That's what the military file is labeled. It's a biological term that means the arms and legs grow last. They come in last when the materialization. And that's exactly what I saw. The head and torso were there. and the arms and legs weren't. And the one I saw materialized more than the one in the military file, because the military file one could tell it was on camera and it zipped off. They know when they're on camera, so they're highly intelligent. So I believe that they're delivery vehicles for the aliens, and we're on the front lines down there in South America. I would like to share my screen, if I could. Sure. Well, you do that. Can I just ask, like, so are these orbs almost like a portal for the alien to travel through or my belief system, the demon to travel through? And a secondary follow up to that is how do you believe that you were able to survive this? But please go ahead and share the screen as you formulate an answer to those questions. Yeah. So how do I how did I survive this? Well, It didn't work well for the ones on the nuclear launch sites. Twenty-five of those people died, and the rest of the hundred ended up with serious brain damage. But in the congressional hearings, one of the witnesses said it doesn't happen with all the orbs, so all orbs are not created equal. The worst ones are the red ones that we saw in Tronche. Four I believe it was where they're on the moon. Have you seen that the half? Yes, you see the red one Materializing dematerializing it looks like a light going on and off but that's an orb materializing and dematerializing They can dematerialize and come into our atmosphere So they don't you don't even see them coming in and then they materialize and they're here voila That's what they do. And then while the camera is on the one, another one on the moon. So NASA has been hiding all this stuff from us for decades. Another one, another of the red ones, which is the most dangerous, does a right angle turn. And it's going so fast that the frame rate on the video can't even keep up with it. And a right angle turn. So in the congressional hearing, they said that they're doing 3,000 Gs. Our craft fly apart, I think it is at 17. Don't quote me on the 17, but something like that. 17 Gs, they completely disintegrate. Well, these are doing 3,000 Gs. So pretty amazing. They completely defy all of our physics. But if I can share my screen for a second here. Yeah, please do. I want to show the start of the book because the UFOs, as they call them UAPs now, are the key part of this. And so I just hit share screen. Did that share? Yeah. Allow. There we go. So we'll be getting that for the audience real quick there. And as soon as Chris sees that, we'll bring it up here. Can Chris see that there? Not yet. Yeah. So we'll just because the nature of the show, we're going to we're going to just keep pressing forward as he tries to figure that out. We'll see if we can get access to that, ladies and gentlemen. If not, we can put it in the show notes as well. But kind of that follow up as well on that, you know, how you were able to survive it, you know, because if a lot of people are not, a lot of people are either dying or horrifically brain damaged. How do you think that you were able to survive this? Well, they're not all the same, again. Not all the orbs are identical. I've interviewed Linda Moulton Howe several times on this, and the red ones that you saw on the moon there, those are by far the most dangerous ones. So what color was the one that you encountered? It was white. White, okay. Yeah, it was a white one. Yeah, if you see the red ones, you better go run fast. Although at 3,000 miles, you're not going to be able to outrun that thing for sure. It's ironic is when it started turning into an alien. That's when I freaked out because I was literally staring inside this thing two feet in front of my face and going, wow, look at that engine inside of there. It's like, wow, that's a powerful fusion reactor or something. Yeah, I was just staring at it. Not very many people have had that opportunity. But when it started to convert into an alien, and it was like Star Trek materializing literally right in front of me, I didn't wait around for all the appendages in that anamorphous orb to appear. Yeah, and I drove like crazy trying to outrun something that can do.... So you had the wherewithal to realize you were at risk here, and you started the vehicle and drove off. Yeah. So my book starts off with prophecies. It starts off with Revelation. And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth. And to him is given the key, the bottomless pit. So... Stars literally cannot fall from heaven onto the earth because they have greater gravity and it's impossible. But these things do look like stars when they come down. We thought it was a star initially, but it's zipping around doing all these right angle turns and reversing. So it looks like a star initially. And then when it comes down, you realize it's not. It came down to the earth, fell down to the earth. And unto him is given the key, the bottomless pit. Well, these things do not launch with a button. That's a complete misnomer. It's a misconception. They launch with a key, and I show the picture of the key. And then the next picture you see... So the first picture you see is an orb over top of the LC launch control site taking control of the thing. Next, you see the key of the bottomless pit, which is a launch key. The next picture you see is the actual... Imagine if in the days thousands of years ago, seeing a vision of this and when you dug pits with a shovel and you have a pit that's hundreds of feet deep where you can't even see the bottom, it would look bottomless. If it was truly bottomless, literally, it would go through the earth to the other side. So it can't be bottomless, but it looks bottomless. So And there rose a smoke, and he opened the bottomless pit, and there rose a smoke at a pit, a smoke of a great furnace, and the heavens and the earth are darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. And I also quote from the Dead Sea Scrolls, and the heavens shall roar with a great noise, hell and Abaddon, that's the one who launches them, Abaddon, shall open and all the flying arrows of the pit shall send out their voices of the abyss. And the gates of hell shall open and the hell of abandon. The pits were open and all the arrows of the pit flew out without cease and striking left no hope. So that's from the Dead Sea Scrolls. And then back to Revelation. I saw a star formed from heaven unto the earth and named him as given the key of the bottomless pit. An angel of the bottomless pit whose name in Hebrew tongue is Abaddon but in Greek tongue hath the name Apollyon. So... That's how the book starts. I show pictures of the smoke coming out of the pit. Does it smoke a great furnace? That's exactly what it looks like. And then I quote from Enoch, which is show a picture of the Russian one coming out of its silo. And it says, giant, massive pillar. And this is the quote. And I saw a deep pit with a heavenly fire on its pillars. And I saw inside them descending pillars of fire, which are immeasurable in respect in both altitude and depth. And on top of the pit, I saw a desolate and terrible place. And the angel said to me, this place is the ultimate end of heaven and earth. So that's how my book starts. It's a pretty shocking. Entry. That's a great way to start a book. I mean, Revelation... Dead Sea Scrolls, Enoch, which I'm a big fan of. I know some Christians take issue with that, but I've read it and I really enjoyed it and thought it revealed quite a bit about. What we're experiencing. It reveals a lot. What it covers, it elaborates on the angels having sex with the humans. Exactly. Yeah. Which we've talked with Gary Wayne about. It goes in a great length on that. And, and, um, It's still in the Bible and the Ethiopian church and the Eastern churches that didn't have the Catholic church rid them of it. So, yeah, it's still there in their Bible. And it's quoted in the Bible. Enoch is mentioned in the Bible a number of times. Yes, it is. It's a valid book, in my opinion. I would agree. I mean, Jude literally quotes it word for word. That's the best example of it. But it is throughout the New Testament where you can actually see it. Sir, we've we've actually hit the end of the show and I am going to have to bring you back. Not only we just started. I know we didn't even get to scratch the surface of this. So we're going to have to have you back. Perhaps this is the the teaser episode, but I'll definitely reschedule you here. And we've also we're talking because you've also written books about your experiences with the fires and investigating them in Oregon specifically. Currently, we're dealing with that in Spokane. So another fascinating interview we could do there. But I want to bring up the website, SacrificingHumanity.com. Ladies and gentlemen, Chris is bringing that up right now. Yeah, it's also on Amazon. You can either go to the website, which has links to Amazon and all the booksellers there. You can click on Trying Day was my publisher or Amazon and go to any of those. And there it is on Amazon. Yep. Yep. So please, ladies and gentlemen, check out this book. And also, you're coming to our area, but you're doing a book tour. You're going to be in Coeur d'Alene. We don't know the date yet, but you're going to be all over really kind of the West Coast there into Colorado as well. I would like to coordinate that with you. Actually, I would love to come in your studio. I would. Oh, an in-studio interview would be phenomenal. Let's do that for sure. I would love to do that. OK, well, we'll definitely we'll get that scheduled. So, yeah. So I've got to go ahead and close this out. If you hold on one more minute post-production to say our goodbyes, I'd appreciate it. But thank you so much for coming on Church and State. It was a great interview. And I cannot wait to read your book. Yeah. 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