Church & State -Stop Screaming for Silence with Mindy Robinson

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Lastly, if you want to get a hold of us, Church and State seventeen seventy six at proton dot me with that, this is going to be a fun episode. Many of you probably know Mindy Robinson. She's got a massive social media following. She's an independent journalist, hidden history buff libertarian. She's a host of conspiracy truths, not conspiracy theories. These are truth ladies and gentlemen. So Mindy, a pleasure to have you on the show. Oh thanks for having me. Yeah, absolutely, So just run off the bat. Perhaps you know there's an audience member who doesn't know you, but you are such a hardcore advocate for personal freedom, for liberty. So tell us how you got your start. Oh gosh, you know, I was actually did TV and film for a long time, so I had already had kind of built up a platform. And then when Trump decided to run in twenty sixteen, I realized nobody knew what they were. Talking about politics. And I actually have a useless degree in political science and margan history, and so I was kind of able to use like my comedic, you know, background, on top of trying to explain how things work and stuff like that. So I kind of get into it that way. And I've backed out of politics a lot. I feel like it's I don't know, I see like this big design where it's just meant to keep us distracted and depleted and fighting with each other instead of, you know, trying to presume our own sovereignty. I would completely agree with that. I've been using my channel to advocate for people to stop with this engineered hostility towards people that you view differently politically. I tell people all the time that Democrat neighbor is not your enemy, and so I appreciate that. But getting into you know, you're obviously you're big into health, You're big into these so called conspiracies. So let's we'll really kind of showcase that as we progressed in the episode. Let's just start with health here, because this is such a big issue with us. And I mean everything, the air, the water, the food, it's all polluted, it's all poison. It's very difficult for those of us who have concerns to I don't know, eat properly, drink good water. Well, they definitely don't make it easy. I think, like many people, I woke up. I mean I was already kind of a conspiracy you know, truther, but I really woke up with COVID, and I think a lot of people did. When you see the entire medical community get behind a vaccine that could not have been tested in time, there was no long term testing, There definitely wasn't any generational side effects, and push it as safe as an effective and push it on you like mandatory wise, and then watching people get sick and then deny it watching people get kicked. I couldn't tell you how many times I was thrown in a Facebook jail. I was even kicked off Twitter for two years for like saying things like, hey, you guys didn't test this vaccine. And so once people realize that doctors and everyone are willing to murder them on ventilators and vendesabaer just to make a check, then you have to start digging, well, what else are they lying about? And it turns out everything, absolutely everything. Salt is good for you, it's not bad for you. Cholesterol is good for you, your brain needs that. The sunshine is good for you. Sunblock is bad for you. So it's just been I think. With everybody just slowly unraveling a lifetime of lies and getting to the truth and actually getting healthy for the first time probably my life. I so completely agree with you, and I talk about this on the show quite a bit. COVID had silver linings, and the biggest one to me is exactly what you were talking about right there, people waking up. The distrust of the establishment was massive for us, and so yeah, we started looking at it and saying, hey, we've been told for years where sunscreen right that the sun is giving you cancer, And that's just one example. And now they're even admitting it. I mean we're seeing this on mainstream news. Oh hey, guess what sunblock's bad for you? Amazing? Who would have thought it? Well, you know, the sunblock we buy in America isn't even legal overseas because it destroys and kills marine life. So what do you think it's doing when you cover your body head to toe in it and when you look at like the explosion of skin cancers, you know in the sixties and seventies, Well what else came out? Sunglasses and sunblock? And so for Bernie Man, I experimented on myself. I always, as a true conspiracy realized, try try it on myself before I promote it to others. I had already cut out seed oils. For six months, which is a huge thing because it causes inflammation, it makes you burn faster. I stopped wearing sunglasses unless it was to drive, and I already wasn't wearing sunblock. And I'm Irish American. I did not burn the entire time, and I was really out in the sun. And now like pretty tan, I'm like, if I can tend as one of the whitest people I knew, then there's hope for the rest of us. And maybe not redheads. I don't know about gingers. I'd probably just stay out of the sun. But you know, and so if they're lying about that, what else they're lying about the sun? Do you remember during COVID when they said don't go outside and it turns out that was the best thing you could have done. These people are awful, but it's our job to see through that. And I think that's the journey of life is no matter what they tell you, go with your heart, go with your intuition, go with you know, whatever other people whatever, the opposite of what they're saying. Basically, yeah, I think it's it's very healthy and very American actually to be a bit of a contrarian, all right, to look at what the establish the government is saying and question it immediately. And I'm not trying to say that everything the government has ever told us, or anything the establishment or the elites have ever told us is a lie, but I think for every single one of us, we should at least test it. I actually think everything they ever told us was a lie. I'm hard pressed sitting there thinking of something they haven't lied about. We didn't go to the Moon. I love that one. My heart was broken that day when I started digging into it. I'm like, I'm looking at the footage like, no, it was like an old movie where the effects did and hold up. I'm like, this never happened. And if they're lying about that, what else they lying about? And the history is all wrong. I'm major in American history. I'll tell you it's all lies. Someone had fun making it up and it doesn't make sense. And now, you know, just going back with and I think that is kind of nice, you know, as a society, like digging through it together and trying to get to the truth behind everything. If we all do a little bit of something and then show each other the work, we actually might you know, write this ship. I know I would agree with that. Actually, perhaps I was being a little bit too generous when it came to the government, because yeah, most of it I do agree as lies. I'm one hundred percent with you with the moon landing. That was fake Ladies and gentlemen shot in a Hollywood basement. You don't believe me. Check out Red Hot Chili Pepper's Californication. They spell it out for you right there. And it's not that they're the good guys, ladies and gentlemen. No, that's not the case. But yeah, I mean the chemtrails is another example. All right. They told us that this was just this just condensation, right, and we're all looking at the sky going I remember clouds being puffy. I remember laying on my back in the grass and looking up and imagining shapes in them. Not this haze that dissipated from the engine of an airplane and black cloud of the whole world. It was wild. Uh yeah, kem trails were one likes. Here's an interesting partly pretty much everything I believe now is the opposite what I used to believe. So I get where people are when. You go, oh, kem trails use contralts like I understand the programming. They are not dosing us with fluoride by accident. They're not indoctrinating us from youth by an accident. It's all a plan to make us think a certain way. And it really once you see past that curtain one time, whether it was COVID nine to eleven, whatever, you see through everything and I just look at my timeline, and it's interesting seeing other people also figuring that out. They're not gonna sit there and argue with you about whatever, like that's dumb, that's fake. That definitely didn't happen. Okay, next, like it's not working. The syops aren't working anymore. I think it's the most beautiful thing ever. Like nobody believes what this government says, Bring on the aliens. I can't wait. Right, I'm right there with you, you know, And you bring up a really interesting point, because you're right, the syomps aren't working anymore. And it seems like the government, the elites, whatever, the mom I don't care, whatever you want to call these people, they don't seem to care anymore. Like the Charlie Kirk assassination, for example. Like, there is no way you will ever convince me of a lone gunman who disassembled the rifle, reassembled it, ran off the roof, reassembled it back in the woods so that people could find it that that was even a shot. There's no way, and they didn't even try it seemed like to convince the people because unfortunately the vast majority are consumed by the bread and circus well. I don't know, I feel like a mass you know, they made. Us watch it. So fear mongering is a big thing for this government because people that live in fear are easier to control, people that live without God are easier to control. And so one of the things they. Did is like NonStop like murder mystery shows and law and. Order and you know, crime. So everyone can like look at something and be like, no, you know, that doesn't make sense. And if it doesn't make sense, it's not true. And then you start digging further. And that's the thing with lying it. It's always going to lead to moral lies or things that don't make sense. And so it's kind of a beautiful thing to watch the critical thinking level in this country just kind of explode. Uh And yes, you're gonna see people are like agree with it. But then you look at them, all the same influencers that you know, don't think Charlie Kirk was killed by Israel, also happened to port Israel also happened to don't care about Epstein. They also, you know, they defend all these things. That nobody else does because they're getting paid. And then you can see the bots. I see the bot accounts, you can click on them. There's nothing to him. It's always a picture of a dog. There's always some ridiculousness. They if they were in the majority, they wouldn't have to fake it. And so that's how I know we're winning. Even if it doesn't feel like it, I know in my heart it feels like it because they're trying, they are failing, they are going. Down in flames, and it's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. No, I would definitely agree with that. And you bring up a really great point that I want to dive into. These conservative influencers that literally make me want to smash my head into the table because they're all saying the exact same thing. I don't care who it is, Ben Shapiro, who who's the one that was just outed a case there we go, Yes, And even some of the older ones, the Sean Hannity's, the Mark Levans, they're all literally saying the exact same thing. And we during you know, the Trump era, we had this mainstream media this is fake news. We don't want any part of it. But so many of them got distracted by these so called conservative influencers who are doing the exact same thing, and you brought up the nation of Israel. This is a subject I'm not afraid to approach on my show. Look, you have to look at the Nation of Israel and say, yes, they've been involved in some very shady behavior. And is there some ties to for example, the Charlie Kirk assassination. I think so, but the very least we should at least look at it. You know, if you watch enough murder shows the guilty, who has motive? Who had motive to do this? It certainly wasn't a tranny that whatever that ridiculous story was. Israel offered them a lot of money to keep pushing the propaganda, and he turned them down, and they made an example of them, and it couldn't be clearer than day. And then the cover up, the poor cover because you know. As much I don't want our military or anything to be merged with the foreign country. That should never happen. But the truth as it already is, they just want it done on paper. The whole nine to eleven thing. Who do you think actually brought down the towers? Who had access? It's one big entity and you know they are not in the majority. They've always been afraid of our numbers, and I think we're about to live through the time where we see the end of this corrupt system once. And for all. Yeah. I pray for that daily, that this whole thing would come crashing down, that we replaced the government with one that will actually protect our God given rights, our sovereignty. As you spoke about a little bit earlier. Yeah, I'm with you on this one. We should not be I mean, our founding fathers talked about this foreign entanglements with none, free trade withal and yet we have this favored nation status that we've doled out to a few nations out there, but Israel's at the top of the list. And for me, I throw that directly upon the dispensational lie that was sold by Schofield and Darby and I talk about this a lot on the show. But there's so many Christians that believe that Israel's God's chosen people and so we can't touch them. And it's based off a lie. And anyone who digs deep enough realize it's based off a lie. And here's the issue. I'm a hermetic gnostic Christian. It was basically the Christianity that existed before the Roman Catholic Church what I. Was raised in. And a lot of people are like, this is a Bible, this is a word of God, and like, you have to understand that was written by men with their own ideals. The Council of Nicea was led by a pagan Roman emperor who murdered his wife and child. You have to question it. What is true in your heart about God is going to be true. And so this is the Schoofield Bible. A man wrote it, a man wrote it. We have to learn to, I think, have our own relationship with God and question the things that man has done in his name if we're going to, you know, truly find peace in this world. Honestly, Yeah, I mean I'm not a gnostic. I'm Lutheran personally, but you know some of what you're saying there, you know, Paul and I talk about this a lot on the show too. Paul commended the Bareans why because they heard the message and then they searched the scriptures to see if it was true. And so I think any of us that are pursuing truth, because I think you and I would both agree if you're on a journey of pursuing truth, you're going to look for the source, and that source is always going to be God. Well God is everything, but our interpretation of it is the thing that's always up for debate. Sure I can respect that for sure. All right. So continuing on with the conversation, and we've been I mean, I said health originally, but we dove into a lot of these conspiracy truths as well. But they're so wrapped in together. You know, it's like, why are they putting fluorite in the water. Why are they forcing kids to get you know, seventy something vaccines before they turn the age of two, because, as you pointed out, they want a sickly population, they want a fear based population because we're easier to control. Then, yeah, it's actually. All related no matter what you look at it, Like why fake the moon landing? Because it removes God on it people's lives. It makes you think you came from monkeys having sex, from a giant cosmic accident. Which your life is worthless. And I know, you know, everything they do has a meaning to them about it. And I'm literally just try just whatever they say, do the opposite, think the opposite. And it's crazy how much more sense things make sense because that's how inverted everything has becommon and that's part. Of the plan as well. Yeah, I would definitely agree with that. All right, let's get a little bit wild here. Conspiracy truths, okay, And sometimes I've seen people go really far into this. I've seen people claim that like Australia isn't real, that it doesn't actually exist, and then you talk to somebody from Australia and you're. Like, I'm here, I'm over here. So sometimes I think there's disinformation thrown out there. But some of the more wild conspiracy theories I want to ask you questions about, Like, let's just bring up flat Earth. My producer is a flat earth or he loves that. I'm already talking about this, but where do you stand on this? So here's the deal. The globe, they kind of made up those numbers, so if you actually took a camera, you could see further than the curvatu're supposed to let you can see things that are further. So they're kind of proving themselves wrong. Now as to whether it's round or flat, it's neither in my In my opinion, I think everything is energy, everything is sound and frequency. God created everything with sound. Everything is vibration. The earth is whatever you want it to be. If you want it to be round, you'll keep seeing clues for it being round. If you want it to be flat, you'll see truth or being flat. We are at least bigger than what they're saying that I will give you just on the evidence. But it's it's energy, It's whatever you want it to be. It's an infinite amount of possible realities at all times. It's probably more shaped like a toroidal, feel something magnetic than anything. But I think it's small minded to think it's either a ball or just flat flat, And then where's this is the realm of energy from which we live. I believe we're fractals of God experience saying itself experiencing consciousness. Everything is mine, everything is consciousness. To argue about the physicality of non physical things seems kind of irrelevant in the big scope of things. I think we're selling ourselves short. That were much bigger and much more cooler than a globe or you know, a. Pancake, gotcha, I mean, And what you're saying, you know, I mean, obviously, frequency is very important, and as you said, God designed this, and there's a reason why the elites changed the frequency of the music that we listen to to one that's much more disruptive of our human selves. So there is something to be said for these frequencies. There's a lot If everything is sound and energy, then you should be able to manipulate things for the good or better with that sound and energy. And so there's a lot of conspiracies about Tartaria and the bells. Why did they destroy all the bells because they were healing. Sound frequency is healing. There's even a theory that cathedrals. Weren't made for church, but not really does designed for it physically, they were kind of like there were places of healing. And no one hated natural holistic medicine worse than Rockefella because he wanted to make money off getting you sick. And it's interesting like he lived in like ninety six you know why, because he had a holistic doctor. He know it worked. He just wanted the rest of you to only live so long. So, yeah, everything is sound and frequency. Everything from the music you listen to. If you want to listen to rap music about killing people and robbing people, it's going to affect your soul. It kind of has to you put us some easy listening from the sexies. You're having a great day. Everything really is sound in frequency, and I think it's underrated. I think we need to incorporate it more. Everything's so busy sounding. Why is it gonna be music everywhere? You know, there's nothing. Wrong in silence. There's something beautiful about nature and it's all related. Yeah, I think I might be a tad schizophrenic here because my music is either classical music, which is absolutely beautiful at healing, or punk rock, which is like anti authoritarian. Well the old punk ro not the new punk rock. So yeah, I mean there's I don't know. Maybe that's just what I need in my life, is the balance of those two different frequencies. But there is something to be said for the music that you're listening to. I appreciate what you said there. Because rap, yeah, I mean, there's evidence that points out that the CIA was directly involved behind rap music. If you don't believe the audience, look it up. My guest is already Noddy. Yes, that is true, because well, anything that damages the community or the family unit makes people easier to control, you know. So they gave rap music about violence to black people, they put them on crack in the eighties, they gave white people opiates, you know, in the zeros or tens what every want to call it. Like they're always trying to destroy the. Family unit because as a community, we will always be stronger than that in the elite few living off of us like tax cattle. And you know, maybe, like think about it, you need to listen to angry music to do something to the inside of you, to release something, because it's frequency. It works like that. Why is listening to sad songs help during a breakup? These are all things that are interesting that we should be studying more. And we don't. Yeah, I would agree with that. Although the man and me says I never listened to sad songs during a breakup, I will neither confirm or deny that one. Chris. Don't laugh at that, Chris, It's fine. I can be sensitive too, No. Manbe this is It's a great conversation, and I hope it's waking people up and encouraging people to explore different perspectives, to not just immediately dismiss something just because that sounds strange, that sounds foreign. And one of the things that I saw on your website. Did I have to ask you about and Chris is going to bring it up real quick. Pandas aren't real, Like, that's a really interesting topic right there. You've done a whole video on it. I did, so you know, I'm always on the question for new content because I'm not the only. One digging into this. It's a whole community. And I came I kept coming across the pandua's pandas at really and the thing is they're not imaginary. You know, they obviously exist, but they don't seem to exists well, and there's not a long history of them in China, Like they just kind of show up in artwork rather recently. They don't breathe for anything. They're like they're like they. Can only breathe like two days a year, and they're really bad at that. If you ever see videos. Of them, they're like they're they're not fighting off a tiger, they're not fighting off anything. They're they're rolling around. They can barely stand. They're falling out of trees. So the theory is maybe they were. Genetically made because someone wanted a cute bear they could hug that would murder them, or or something like that, but they're not. They're not one hundred percent nature made. And that's actually believable because I don't think. This is the first we think were the most advanced civilization that has ever come, and we know we're not. We can't even explain how they made buildings, you know, from not that long ago, so obviously they're not. We're the era of plastic. Everything is temporary and cheap. I don't even know how my phone works, you know, so I don't know. I thought it was a fun one and I. Might actually agree with it, and they they might genetically genetically. I could see the argument for it. I mean, you watch these these zoo keepers, any of them dealing with pandas. I mean, they're they're literally actively trying to make sure they don't kill themselves. They have no balance, I mean, they're constantly falling over, just crashing into things. So I could see the argument being made that these things were genetically engineered. It wouldn't be the first time. I mean, those of us who listened to Alex Jones back in the day, remember him ranting and raven about spider goats. There was a spider goats that were they were weaving this like silk for armament, So it wouldn't be the first time for. Us, you know, it won't be the last. No, You're you're absolutely right. I mean, look at the transhumanism. You know, you've all known Harari. For example, in the World Economic Forum, they're talking about this, they're talking about being able to clone humanity, to make cyborgs, to merge us with machines. So yeah, obviously there is an agenda there and they're talking about it openly. Yeah, I you're gonna wonder what you know, it's their agenda, but you're gonna wonder, like what's behind it? And I'm not even wondering, like do clone people? Would they have souls? Does that work? Like that is anyone? Is that what they're looking for? Like a human without a soul that they don't. And on the other hand, here's the other conspiracy theory. If you're if you're a tartarian or anything like that, there seems to be a giant reset not that long ago, like in the eighteen hundreds where you have all these orphan kids on trains being sent for farm labor across America, across. Australia, Like where did all these little white kids come from. Why you know, there are babies and incubators at world's fairs and stuff like, why was it so rare to see a baby? See? Where are the babies? Why aren't they selling babies as coming from cabbage patches and storks? And people were buying babies all, you know, like on postcords and stuff. There seems to have been a reset and a population and I I don't think cloning or any of that stuff is anything new, but that's just me. I mean, everything points to their having been plumbed humans before. And why would they stop? Why would they ever stop? I'm sure like they're making the rich people who's making propagatage of themselves but not understanding that doesn't make them themselves. Our awareness, our God getting conscious is what actually you know makes us a lot. That's everything exceptarate except your awareness. Yeah. Well, I would say that they're very short sighted. They're not looking at you know, living in a different existence heaven or hell. They're they're trying to, you know, find the fountain of eternal youth to where they can live on this earth for all of eternity, that they can defeat death. And obviously for. You and I, you know that that's not the case. That these people are actually going to imprison themselves, especially if they merge themselves with technology. Yeah, do you know how that works? With the technology, This idea need to live forever in a physical body is kind of bizarre. The body's designed to break down. That's the whole experience of life is it's limited. You've got the illusion of time or you're experiencing yourself. Otherwise, what's the alternative if you woke up tomorrow and you are omnipoi and omnipresent, and you knew everything, and you knew every alternate version of anything that could ever happen. How much fun is that? This is the experience that these limited bodies and the awareness lives forever, the ego doesn't, and the ego, which it's designed to keep us alive on this animal planet that never wants to die. I think that's really what they're wrestling with. They're not looking to really live for everywhere do that. They're looking to keep their ego, their their individuality and when really it's for all connected. And I think being connected is a lot cooler than being myself for eternity. Yeah, I mean, obviously there's there's a communist element to that mindset, that hive mindset that they're pushing upon us, and it results in a lack of freedom, a lack of individuality, and for people, you know, on our spectrum, we're going to reject that wholeheartedly. And whether you're a Christian, libertarian, anybody that wants that freedom, we're going to reject the plans of these elitist because it's honestly, it's it's it's going to bring about the downfall of humanity. Wouldn't be the first. Time, No, No, it's sadly it would not be. I mean history is filled with exactly what we're discussing right there. These these tyrants that emerge and they have the utopian mindset. You know, if you if you listen to or read things that Hitler said, or Mao or Stalin or Lenin or any of these guys, they have this utopian mindset. But the end result was always death. Well that's the thing, and. I think maybe this is why I get out of politics and whatnot. There's only two things you can do. You can either free people or control them. And controlling people to force them to be good is still control. But if you truly freed people. If you told them what they were, if you told them what you know that they are a part of God, would they do half the things that they do right now if they weren't like atheists all that other stuff like. So, I believe in freeing people. I don't want to control people. I think if people knew the truth, they would behave differently. And yeah, I think that's a huge problem that people fall into, that you're a good guy, but you're still trying to control people. At the end of the day, You're absolutely right. I gotta apoluse to Mindy. I apologize, we have that heartbreak. I hate doing that to guess, but hate ladies and gentlemen. Mindy's going to be with us another fifteen minutes. This is Caleb Callier with Church and State Don Media. This is gentlemen. If you're not sleeping on my pillow, do you even patriots? I gotta tell you, this is the most wonderful stuff from a man who's given it all for your freedoms, whether it be the pillow, the sheets, or the slippers. 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I hate cunning people off because it's there's so much great information out there. So please continue with what you were saying. I remember what I was saying to you. Basically, I mean, you're right, you were talking about control and controllers is freedom. And so if somebody, even if they are acting in a benevolent manner, you're still a control, You're still a tyrant. Yeah, And I think that's the problem that we're looking at and of course the alternative is with anarchy is what. I don't know. I get like, you shouldn't kill people, it shouldn't rob people. But like the but jillion rules and laws we have online and fees and registries. Those don't need to exist. Those are just enriching a corrupt system. I think we could. We're absolutely capable of regulating ourselves. And I think a huge problem will never find peace as long as we're fighting for it. It's like screaming for silence. It's just not how it works. That's a really good way of putting it. Screaming screaming for silence. I like that. In fact, maybe that's the name of the show, Chris screaming for silence. But yeah, you're you're right, we do. I mean, the vast majority of us, we have that in our DNA right we can we can look around and we can say, uh, I shouldn't kill that person, and we have enough control self control to not act upon that. We may hate that person, but we're not going to go actively kill them. And so I agree with you wholeheartedly that a more of an anarchy based system and not the one that the media tries to convince us of. Right, that anarchy is these Antifa people that are throwing brickstra windows. Like, that's not anarchy, ladies and gentlemen. Anarchy is just a lack of government, zero governments that we can govern ourselves. Yeah, everyone thinks it's. Going to turn into the purge, but whatever, Like we're perfectly fine regulating ourselves. And I would dare say better off. You know, the government. Why is our army even overseas? Like all these questions that we have that I think people are having now for the first time ever, I'd be having no government this point. We were not voting our way out of this. We're not doing anything. I'd be fine if we woke up tomorrow and something happened to our world leaders and that the Aliens took them, the Russians tooke them. I don't care what a great day that would be, Like, Okay. Cool, I guess we'll just go back to normal, but just working less and paying less stuff. I'm right there with you. I mean, every time we hear, you know, governments shut down, and everybody that the CNN folks, the Fox News folks are all worried about the government shutdown, and I'm over here, like bring it on. You know this sounds great like shut it down. And no pay, shut it down and no pay, And it's always like no pay for like the plea, but it's never no pay for Congress or any of that stuff. I say, you shut it, shut the whole thing down, do it? Do it? Make my day? Never open it back up. Nobody cares, nobody cares, No one's going to. Our biggest fear would be way a land invasion, not America, because we still have our guns. We never got rid of them. That's why we never got rid of them. Good luck taking over taxes, Like, what are you gonna do? You're either destruct by everything in bombs, which makes it useless. You wouldn't do that, or you're gonna try to do a ground invasion, which you will fail. You will fail. Don't need government. I completely agree with you. I mean, if the government shut down, I don't think most people would notice. Life would continue. And not only that, you'd allow the private industry to go without regulations that are so burdensome. You'd allow them to step in and fill the void. And that that's what every libertarian is talking about, is that the private is way more capable of handling all of this, it's a. Government shutdown first to do a dance. Then I throw a party, and then I'd opened up my own pothole fixing company for fifty bucks. I fixed a. Pothole for fifty bucks, and just keep going around, pop hole in front of your house. I'll fix it for fifty bucks, and you already got more done than the government GA should do in ten years. Do you remember when Dominoes was fixing potholes? That was awesome. I was like, yes, right there, you're proving every libertarian right that a private corporation, an entity could do it better than the government was doing. And why did they do it? It's a gimmick. Guys, because they have all these you know, delivery drivers out there that are wrecking their cars on these potholes. So Dominoes fix them and they put their little stamp on it. Right there, it works. And I mean you can go down the line of all these different things that are so called public and how much better they operate in the private. Well, what's the government really supposed to do? Make sure there's not poison in our food, poison in our air, poison in our water that our kids are saying, why are we paying any of this? I mean I don't pay taxes. I don't make enough. But like I expect a giant tax revolt, I just don't do it. It isn't with half of us just stop paying taxes, businesses and everything. What are they gonna do anything they can do? And the money system would collapse and we'd have to barter with each other for our services and goods. And I think I'd be fine. With that, as as would I. But you also bring up a really interesting point, because what is the government supposed to do? You said, keep our food safe, don't poison our water, don't poison our air, keep our kids safe, except for the governments doing the exact opposite of that, ladies and gentlemen. So maybe Mindy's saying we should remove the government. Replace it with something better. Nothing. What does a local community can't do, you know, come together, like you know, John and Mike are having a fight. Okay, you know, air it out, figure it out at the pub. I mean, really, what do we really really need from the government that we weren't doing as colonies? Really? So, yeah, they're supposed to keep us safe from like foreign wars, and here we are starting them. So I'm good. I'm good I'm paying for genocide. Ever again, I'm good on unbombing school kids by accident and no one gets. In trouble, no one goes to jail. Then you wonder why you have terrorists. I don't know. You kill their entire family. That's the perpetuation of the whole thing. And I think people are saying it, and I don't know. I think the key is to not everyone thinks you need a civil war. No, that's what they want. They want us to fight each other, that's what they've been setting up this entire time. But we need a revolution. That doesn't even mean you need to do violence. It just means you stop participating in a corrupt system. Just stop. Like I said, if half of us did it, And how. Uncomfortable do we have to be as a society before we do that. How much more ridiculous can it be? Because it's going to just continue to get more ridiculous until just enough people say, you know what, I'm just gonna squat ram and not pay anything. And I think I'd be fine with that. You know, the idea has a lot of merit. I got to tell you, And you're right, about the Civil War as well. I've advocated for this for a number of years to not fall into their trap, because that is exactly what they want because you hear, you know, the more conservative side of things, and they're like, well, there's no way the left can win this war. They know that, Okay, they absolutely know that, but they still they want you to kill them off. And then they want to bring in the United Nations peacekeepers or whatever. It looks like, maybe Israel now that we've merged with them, and all of a sudden, you've got somebody that actually knows what they're doing fighting against you. Don't go that route. It's that Ron Paul revolution with love right that was written in it. You could see it during his campaign. Just you love people, you stop fighting, You figure out what you have in common, and come to the table. As you said, you got to fight, figure it out in a pub. That's a whole lot better of a world. That's one I'd like to live in me too. And when you look at me, the reason that there are illegal immigrants here doing violent things is because we're paying for them to be the reason anything that is happening is because we're subsidizing our own destruction and it's all a distraction, and I don't maybe a producer will know. But like the Civil War are do you think it was really fought to free the slaves? Do you really think it was some kind of like humanitarian mission where they went down and started murdering their own countrymen and breaking their cities down. And raping their women and stealing their food. Do you think that was all done because it's the good of their heart. Or do you think it was designed to watch just tear each other apart put ourselves in perpetual debt because the banks were funding both sides, and. Then they would just sweep in and take over the entire country in nineteen thirteen. Exactly. Oh yeah, I've reported on this subject myself. Huh, I've reported on this subject myself. Absolutely, this is exactly you really want to know the intentions behind the Civil war. That's exactly what my guests just said. It was the banks funding at all. And initially they funded the South because they thought they could break this up much like Europe and have every state be its own country, each with a central bank inside of it. So, yeah, the banks. Look at the banks, ladies and gentlemen, you want to know why almost every single war has ever been fought looked to the banks. And I love the quote from Norm MacDonald who said, you know, it says you're in this history book that the good guys won every single time. Like think about it, guys comedy, it's great. It points to the truth. Yeah, never matter of fact, we helped Stalin go on and killt way more people than anybody. I mean, that's that's our history, the history that is kind of true and still just so rewritten, and so it is what it is. But I don't see it repeating. I just don't see I think this whole internet thing and social media was kind of like their other way to control us, an it kind of backard because now it's awesome a way for us. To share information, and the information is going to be out there. They tried the censor and we lived through that. There's really no censoring at some point. Once the people are this distrustful of the news, who watches the news, Oh, they didn't make fun of it or criticize it. Who is watching any of this stuff? So I think the great Awakening is upon it. I think we're about to live for the most exciting time that ever was, and I'm looking forward to here quite. Honestly, Yeah, I definitely agree with that. I am looking forward to this along those lines, the Great Awakening. I want to ask you a question that some of my audience may not like, but they should be used to me by now because I'm certainly no fan. Where do you stand on Trump? You know? I wrote it from three times I stood by him. I was a speaker on the Capitol, I got my I visit. I really wanted if he had only done the things he had promised. This term, and he didn't. I do not like the insider trading. I do not like the big coin scams. I don't like the Trump phone scam. I don't like trying on a play way he did that with Israel. I mean, I don't like that is son just married Epstein's banker's daughter. I don't like his daughter is married to Jared Weazel Kushner. Why is that guy even around the White House? I don't It's like it's not even the same guy. And I think, unlike the left, where they seem to like just go down with Biden in flames, I'm I'm gonna criticize your Trump because I think it's it's. This is not what we voted for. We vote for no wars. We voted the government corruption, not an increase of both. And I'm not gonna be silent about that. I don't care. Do you want to follow me for Okay, fine, I'm not a sick fan. I'm not going to lick the boots that are oppressing me. And so you know my series, it's not even him. They either compromised him to Kingdom come, or they like kay altered him, or they just killed or replaced him with how many bidens did we have, the six foot four Biden being my favorite? It was not easy to place that guy like six or eight times or whatever was going on. What's to say they didn't just take him out? And I'm trying to pinpoint exactly when it happened. I don't know if it was Butler, which didn't have the way of saying, but some thing happened where his entire thing changed. And I don't see a guy who's a narcissist and who loves his ego would suddenly crop on his base that got him there. That's just something people with egos don't do that their base is everything and so something happened. It's not the same person, and I'm not going to stand by and pretend it is one way or the other. I think that's incredibly well said and really vocalizes where I stand on this whole thing. I only voted for him once he got me. But it is a different Trump. It's not the same Trump that we that we fell in love with in twenty sixteen that we thought, hey, we finally can have an outsider getting into this political machine and start dismantling it. So I think you bring up some really good points. Another question for you on this one, because this is another one that divides a lot of people. What are your thoughts on bitcoin. I don't understand it. I really don't. I like somewhere in gold. I want to pull something in my hand. I don't want to be a lost password away or losing absolutely everything I have. It seems just as imaginary as our dollar, which is no longer backed by boulder or anything value. So I know people are crazy about it. They change to me just a digital currency, and I don't trust it. I would rather have canned goods and gasoline and diesel and gold and silver and things tangible value and as many times as people are trying to explain to me it is a busting or I don't care, I really don't. It just seems like one another. Yeah, once again, you and I are in complete agreement on that one. I've looked into it. I see nefarious means behind it. I see us getting involved in a cryptocurrency that's ultimately controlled by governments. I think they're going to pull the rug out of the bitcoin. And. Governments will step in and say we need a stable coin, we need something that is centrally backed, and there we go. We got a one world monetary policy that is not what I want to be a part of. Well, Mindy, it's been an absolute pleasure. I told you i'd only keep you for forty five minutes. You're you're currently dying any you have no air conditioning in your airstream, so you're in Vegas, so I want to be cognizant of that. But I want to push your social media's. Obviously, you have a massive following on x that people can go to, and Chris, if you can bring that up, will show everybody where they can follow Mindy on x UH. And then there's also the website here that Chris is showing as well. Mindy, tell us a little bit about your website and why people should go there. Well, I got a little tired of politics that felt like it was a negative loop cycle that whatever I put my energy to do as. We can get more of. And I didn't want more on government corruption conspiracy. So me and my business partner, event Are we put together. Iamdinfinite dot Com and that's where you go to fond your pan is real or you know, little holistic things and just digging into the more positive side of life and spirituality and just trying to you know, I believe we get the energy, so I want to put out more positive do you do excellent? Well, I will encourage the audience to go to I Am the Infinite Infinite dot com go check it out, and also to follow Mindy on all the different social media. She's all over the place you could find her. But this is somebody that's that's pursuing the truth and I respect and appreciate that. Mindy. Once again, it's a pleasure to have you on the show. Thank you for all of your work at defending freedom. And I'm going to go ahead and close this out. If you hold on one more minute. Post production, Sarah goodbyes. 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