Church & State -The Great Reset, with Jay Jusino Part 2

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Lastly, if you want to get ahold of US Church and State seventeen seventy six at Proton dot meme. With that, we're gonna go right back into understanding the Great Reset. This is part two. If you stumbled upon this and you're like part two, go look for part one. What we're talking about right now is not gonna make much say, so you got to go to part one first. But Jay is joining us again. Jay Jasino, as I said in the first episode, husband and father of seven children, all homeschooled. He's been a public school teacher, he's been a Christian school teacher, was actually expelled and I'm using the word intentionally from the Christian school that he had been at because he stood up against cultural Marxism, just absolute garbage, but was escorted out with by armed security. He's an author, He's taught a number of subjects including chemistry, logic, Bible, world religions, and it is just an absolute pleasure to have you again on the show. Jay. I thank you, gailb I'm very i'mticled thanking to be here, so thank you very much for having me. Absolutely so, we're just going to pick up where we left off. And as we were closing the show, you brought up Ephesians five eleven, warning Christians to have nothing to do with the fruit of darkness. And yet it's exactly what we're doing, and I'd love for you to pick it up right there. Yeah, do not participate in the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. And as I mentioned in the last episode, one of my concerns with when the COVID thing came along, I've just found ministry after ministry participating really with the narrative and not exposing it. They were doing the opposite of what that verse teaches us to do. As believers, and so I got motivated to as well, as you know, being being fired from the Christian school foreposing the culture Marxism. I realized that the Christian world, especially the Christian institutional world, meaning you know, schools and ministries and groups of Christians together, they're all trying to not buck the system and you know, not be out in left field. So they they're just kind of going along with it, and it's not what we should be doing. So I'm trying to expose a mechanism that we shouldn't be going along with. And I will submit it is difficult because as we're going to get into I realize that we talked last time about interoperability. How do you how do you? How do you avoid that? That's hard, and I want to get to that in this particular section if we can. But but let me go back to something else that we mentioned a little bit ago. I wanted to mention Amanjabi. And the reason I bring him up is because you know, people might disagree with me on a myriad of different issues that I'm bringing up here in this particular interview or in this paper. I've got some Bible verses and they say, hey, I don't hold that eschatology, and it's not it's not why I see that. What I'm trying to suggest is you don't. You don't have to hold my escathological view. You don't have to hold uh, you know, to everything I might think about a particular text in scripture to to see what's happening. You don't have to do that. You can be and and and to realize that we should avoid this, we should we should run from, we should expose it. And so Amanjabi is my is my classic. You know, I guess example of that's the case. So he was interviewed by Maria z And I'm just going to read a quote from him in the interview which I have referenced in my paper. He says this. He says, I am not a Christian, but I have a lot of Christian friends, and they believe in the whole you know, the beat system. But really it is a beast system. Whether you take it religiously or practically, it is a bat system that is being unrolled. End quote. And so he can see it. It's it's explained to him now. He was again he was Silicon Valley techie worked there for twenty five years he now exposes. But he's exposing all the same stuff I am as a non Christian, you know, forgetting the pre trip, post trip, mid trip, I mean all the the you know, rapture timings and the and the you know, post mail at a mill I mean, you can just throw that in his I mean, I'm not saying those are unimportant, as you know they are important. But what I'm getting at is you don't have to be entrenched in one of those views to see this. And I think sometimes those the views that I just mentioned, sometimes I think the labels of those views, maybe not the labels, but some of the things in those views blind people to seeing what's right in front of them. And so let me read a little bit more. This is not a quote from him. I'm just finishing out my thoughts. One does not have to be a Christian to see what is very plain. In our time, a system of total and absolute control is being set up. Interoperability and hence the connecting to everything, which is the key point. Is key is a key component of this, as connecting gives informational data which can then be used to control and manipulate. So you know, we're being connected up so that we can be controlled on the front side. Connectivity is great because what it allows us to do all kinds of stuff. We could allow us to do this interview right now. Absolutely. And So to be very clear my position, and I state this in the page, I am not anti technology. I'm not saying that we can't use the Internet or even AI for that matter, for the expansion of the gospel. I'm not saying that AI's distributed across pretty much all platforms already anyway. Right, It's like it's hard to do anything on the computer without some in interference with AI. What the enemy have meant for evil, God means for good. Right, I mean, it's the principle there we get from Genesis chapter fifty, if I'm not mistaken, and Joseph's story. So we want to use what the enemy is created for evil and use for good. But history, as I said, is going somewhere, and the people that are enemies of God are using this. They're building a system with this technology that will enslave and entrap everybody. That is the plan, and we should not be ignorant to that. That's the point we should not be oblivious to that. I think a lot of times people when they are afraid to go down this path because of its implications. How's that going to change my life? What am I going to have to do or change? Or you know what if I say this in public, I might be ostracized or people think I'm crazy. Well, yeah, maybe that's true. But I suppose you and I hear that a lot, right, I've been fired from a Christian school. I've heard that from Christians before. But anyway, we I'm suggesting that we need to we need to think about this, and that's really the conclusion of my paper. I don't cut to the chase too fast, but I don't want to miss that. We My conclusion of this paper is that, look, we need to discuss this in the church. This is a this is a point of discussion. How do we exercise Ephesians five eleven. How do we not. Participate when the very system that is being built as our prison is the system that everything functions on. I mean, it brings new it brings new meaning and clarity if you will to the you know the concept of being in the world but not of the world. How do you do that when it's all mixed together? So I give some solutions. A. A principal solution is to yes, use the tools that are there, that have been made, even that the enemy is, you know, planning for evil. If we can use them for good, we can do that. We should do that, right, We should maximize our opportunities. But while that's happening, we should be warning people where this system, what this system is, where it's going, who developed it, why they developed it, where the the end game is. From the Bible's perspective, right, the endgame is very clearly. You can go to Revelations chapter thirteen and you'll find the endgame or Daniel chapter seven, verse twenty three, which is how I start my paper. And if you don't mind, I'm just going to read that. If I can find page one quick or here we go, I'm gonna read Daniel seven twenty three. It says, thus the fourth Beast will be a fourth kingdom. And now remember what aman Jab said, it's a beast's system that's being set up, and not all Christians believe in that, Okay, I'm just reading the text and reading the scripture. The fourth Beast will be a fourth kingdom on the earth, which will be different from all the other kingdoms. Interestingly enough, the technology aspect might be the key difference right here is the technology allows this to be a different kingdom. Friend of mine pointed it out to me a couple of years ago, and I thought there was a fantastic of anyway which would be different from all the other king names. And we'll devour the whole earth and tread it down and crush it. There you go. This this what's happening right now. This system is being built. So can we use this technology? We are, but this is where it's going. And so my essential conclusion is to meet the warned people about this, and and we need to seek to disconnect rather than connect. Yeah, we're connecting to to to present a biblical message here, right, that's a good kind of connecting. But if you go to the store and you got to have the app to buy this, and you gotta have this to do that in order to get the reward discount, you got to be in their system. You know, you got to all this connecting and the apps, and it's just there's it adds nauseum. There's so many that there's a purpose to that. It's it's everyone connected together. So that once that's done, the interoperability connected to digital currency, connected to digital ID, connected to your internet, you know, your web, your your own private channels, so that they can see and hear everything that you're doing, everything you believe, and they will be able to control everything about what you spend money on. Critically, you know, it's interesting the the left say the left shouldn't say it that way, because there's even trouble with defining the left. But the Satanic agenda has always had a plan. Again, as we discussed earlier, there's a plan, and you know what that that plan is not going to be interrupted by United States America and Second Amendment rights. No, no, we'd be we'd be ignorant to believe that it would. Yes, But I think a lot of Christians today they hold that we got all these guns. I mean I hear that, you know, well, we got guns. You know well, guns aren't going to help you when you won't be able to buy anything because you are controlled by the algorithm and you can't buy anything, especially not a gun or ammunition or food. How can you shoot the gun if you don't have any food to eat and your family's starving. You're not going to be out there resisting anti Christian or you know, resisting tyrannical political movements. If you can't eat I mean till it sounds I'm gonna be a little bit blunt here, sir. You know, I have weapons and I have ammunition, and the only thing a gun is going to do against what we're describing right here on this episode is I'll die in a hail of bullets versus languishing in prison and ultimately being decapitated. That's that's it, and that's really blunt. I wanted to bring up a few things that you brought up here because this I love the conversation that we're having, and I like how you're talking about. Using the tools of the enemy for good. Right. It's the analogy of going into the matrix and trying to get people out of it. But the Bible also gives us a reference to this that was coming to my mind as you were talking, when Paul goes and he sees this alter to an unknown god. All right, this is a tool of the enemy. This has been brought to this people, and they're worshiping an unknown god because they believe that there's so many gods out there that they don't want to miss any and how does Paul use this. He uses it to tell them. Hey, I know that unknown God and here's his message, right that is using the tools or the plans of the enemy to bring about salvation to an unsaved people group. And I think that's what we're doing right now through the communication through the technology that is existing here. So I would say that to the people as. A reminder that this is nothing new, that heroes of the Bible have been using the existing demonic system for a long time. Yes, but let me add that the biggest resistance. I get and I agree with what you're saying, I'm not My comment is not in disagreement with what you're saying. But when I bring up the caution about the internet or about the connectivity, uh, it's a quick frown, you know, dismiss you know, your you're you're you're just running, You're just acting in fear. You know, you're just being afraid. Stop acting in fear. The Bible says we're not supposed to be afraid, and so they just dismiss that. I'm suggesting that, yes, while we are using the enemy's infrastructure, let's put it that way for good and to advance the gospel. Yes, at the same time, we let's not just walk into their trap personally, that's the idea. Let's not just embrace digital currency, which by the way, is embraced with the digital ID, which is the real ID, which is the star idea that most people have a star on their driver's license in all the states and they don't realize that's the that's the system that that it's. Going to bring about. The worst of all these technological control grids is this connection to a digital currency. It doesn't have to be central bank. Digital currency doesn't have to be it's just a digital doesn't care. You know, it'd be worse to have this digital currency in the private hands, right because because then one person can control all of it, right, and that's just terrible. So anyway, we are just walking into that trap. So I'm I'm advising, hey, yes, while well, first of all, don't don't assume and label me an amish that I'm just sticking my head in the sand. And you know, I don't use technology, you know, to preach the gospel or whatever. Don't label you know what, there's a proverb Proverbs eighteen thirteen. He who answers before listening is follying. Shame to him, right, people don't listen. They hear the first thing I say, we got to be careful of the internet, and immediately proved. They jumped the conclusion that, ah, he's an amish guy. You know he's gonna he's gonna go live in the forest. Then you know, how's that going to go for it? You know, Jay, Well, hey, there's more to the story. People. I'm trying to I'm trying to save people now, not that I'm the savior. We've covered that clearly in the first presentation. Jesus Christ is our savior. But let me read a scripture to you in Proverbs twenty four, starting at verse eleven, it says, this delivered those who are being taken away to death, and to those who are staggering to slaughter. Oh, hold them back. That's what I'm trying to do, all right, by helping people understand what this is. And then look at it says this. If you say, see we did not know this, Now there's pleading ignorance. Right, does he not consider it? Who weighs the hearts? And does he not know it? Who keeps your soul? And will he not render to man occurring to his work. So don't pretend we didn't know about this. Are we do know about this? It's very clear, it's obvious. Even Aman Jube, again non Christian, can see what's happening. Let's not pretend it doesn't exist. And then then the answer I get from a lot of You know, I shouldn't say a lot certainly I don't. I don't get out pulling all the Christians in the world, but I do hear this frequently, this type of thing. I should say, well, we all got to die something. I know. It's just an apathetic approach. Yeah, it's an apathetic approach to our Christianity, to. Our life here on earth. I wanted to bring up a couple of other things that you had brought up discussed a little bit further. Number one, when when you're referencing Daniel, you know, it's certainly not lost on me. And I'm probably not the first person to say this, but that statue, that that vision that Daniel has the fourth Kingdom, that the kingdom that's created there is a mixture of clay and iron, mixture of humanity and perhaps technology. And that's a theory, and perhaps I'm wrong on this, but it could be accurate this description of what we're seeing within transhumanism. I also wanted to say this as well, because you've been talking a lot about bucking the system and that Christians we have to be comfortable with the idea of bucking the system. I think that's so essential. It's foundational to our belief system. God told us that we are not of this world. He told us, because they persecuted him, that they would persecute us. And so Christians need to get very, very comfortable with this idea that we are outsiders. We are going to be looked at from the world as not normal, as weirdos exactly. And I really get frustrated, and let me just turn this towards men and then you can comment here. But as men, we like specific movies, don't we. And I've talked about this before on the show, But we like the movies like you know, William Wallace Braveheart, and even with the modern iterations of the superhero movies. Right, we're Captain America where Steve Rogers and we're saying, as we're getting our butts kicked, I can do this all day, right, we put ourselves in those and then when we have the opportunity to actually do that in real life, we shy away from it. We run, We pretend we don't even know it's possible. That's a very good point. It's like the dog. It's like the time, you know, I'm old grass, you know, and so I go to the sometimes customers doors and there's a little marphed dog. You know. Boys use that door open, they run the other way. You know. That's kind of what you're talking about. It's a little by analogy here. Yeah, let me bring up a Bible verse and I'll forgive me. I don't have the reference off the top of me, but I remember it. What it says, anyone who desires to live a godly life in Christ will be persecuted. And I would submit that if Christians don't find themselves ever being persecuted or finding themselves on the wrong end quote unquote of an argument, they're really probably not living that godly life in Christ that they that they think they are. And I'm not I'm not. Trying to you know, I'm not saying I don't. I'm not guilty that myself. I know I have to look at examine my own self in that. But to your point, I think, yeah, we we need to the system because and not embrace it. That's it, and that's what this paper's about. Christians are embracing the system. They're not bucking it. And when I say bucket, I'm gonna quickly go to a vision six. You're familiar with the text of Esians five eleven. We've already talked about it. If you keep going resist in the evil days, stand firm against the schemes of the devil. That word schemes is the Greek word methodia. Satan has methods, resist those methods, expose those methods, right one, Peter, chapter four, I'm sorry, First, Timothy, Chapter four of verse one says that in the in the latter days, the spirit explicitly says in the latter days many will fall away from the faith paying attention to doctrines and demons. But then you skip down to verse six in that context that it says you will be a good soldier of Christ if you if you remind the brothers of these things. That's what you and I are doing. We're reminding people the Hey, we need to not fall into this doctrines of demons, and certainly this we talked about it earlier. You know, the transhumanist doctrine of demons absolutely doctor of demons, and the AI is again godlike AI is where it's heading. It's a demonic thing. So we would do well to remind the brothers of these things, why so we can see what it is, expose it. You remember First Chronicles, chapter twelve, verse thirty two. Everyone's familiar with this verse. Dave Noble, you know, named his ministry Understanding the Times. I think from this, right, the men of Issachar who understood the times with knowledge and get this and knew. What Israel should do. The point is understanding brings knowledge of what action to take, or you might say, what action to not take. I'll reference the COVID shots, right. I mean if you knew, if you had the knowledge of what those shots were and what their connected was it a transhumanist event, was a great reset event, it was a satanic event bringing all this to bear that he's trying to make. If you knew that's what it was, you would have known not to take that shot. That's the concept. So this information that you and I are talking about is bringing it up so that we can see it for what it is, call in ace and ace and resist it and expose it and work against it, not join it and be part of it, which is what I see Christian ministries and individual Christians doing. And they're complacent. They say, ah, no, we can't fix that, there's nothing we can do about it, and so they just they just dismiss Ephesian six, is what they're doing. I don't think they realize it. They're not not thinking about it that way, but in practicality they're dismissing Ephesian six and the principles there. There's nowhere in scripture that I see for fatalistic complacency, just not there. No, I completely agree, and it was almost like we were on the same wavelength here. I'm so glad you transitioned into talking about DNA and mRNA because we had already in episode one we had covered transhumanism, we had covered artificial intelligence, and actually I wanted to start talking about unification DNA the grid. Obviously, I mean complete agreement with you. In fact, I was banned off of YouTube because I kept telling people not to take the vaccine because it was dangerous and I recognized it for what it. Was like Franklin Graham. Right. What I mean, what I mean by that is unlike you. You were not like Frank Frank Graham was telling. People to take it. He was. He was firing people, his employees if they wouldn't take it. Yeah. Now, look, I like Frank mcgraham. I'm not to run him down. I'm just it's just an example and everyone knew it. So anyway, keep going back to what you were saying. I'm so unification. You were talking about the shots and everything. Yeah, I mean, we're currently seeing and I you know, I'm I'm not trying to bring in politics necessarily, but the current administration. Where we're we're partnering. We're seeing these really troublesome partnerships. We were promised, you know, that we were going to go after so many people and that we're going to drain the swamp. And now we're seeing uh, you. Know, Mark Zuckerberg being brought into the White House and and and Facebook being celebrated and cherished. We're seeing or Coole Larry Ellison, you know, with his his personal cancer mRNA vaccine, that's that's getting pushed upon us. We're seeing partnerships with Palenteer to build a complete surveillance state. Uh and literally, the the m RNA is changing people's DNA I alarm bells like danger. Will Robinson like, this is the experience I'm feeling. Yeah, there is a lot, there's a lot. There's a lot going on there. Let me quickly comment about your mention in politics. You kind of like, you know, kind of like so, I'm sorry, I don't mean to be and well, you know, that's what the that's what the Muslim world likes to talk about really only two things, religion and politics. So but Christians aren't able to do that, right, I'm suggesting that we really need to because our politics. Is really an outworking of our our. Religious beliefs, and so we have to talk about these things. But yeah, we are unfortunately heading in the wrong direction in this part. Ask another specific question regards to that. Yeah, I mean, just as I'm seeing this unification and it's so nefarious, right, we should be unified in christ This is something that all Christians should do. You've already brought up the fact that there's different belief systems. You and I have different belief systems. We talked on the phone. You know, I'm a Lutheran you know, I believe in covenant theology. You know, I don't believe in the pre trib But we're having a fascinating conversation about this, and I truly traerish you as. A Christian brother. But the unification that we're seeing from the opposing side is not the unification that we want to have any part of. And I brought up examples of Palenteer and Oracle and the mRNA vaccines that are changing our DNA. Yeah, the unification is absolutely what we don't want because it's unifying with the system, and that's what we don't want. Yes, absolutely, unification in Christ is what we do want. So unification has a place. And as I make a case in the. Paper, we are God exists as as a trinity, right Father God, the Father God is Godloyspirit. He exists in perfect unity we when we're made in His image, and so we we seek that unit. We want to be. We want to be in unification, but it has to be in truth and that's the issue. It has to be in Christ. And so Satan uses this unification desire we have that's ingrained in us, and he corrupts it and he wants us to unify with the global system, totally opposite. Of what we should be doing. Absolutely. Now we're coming down to that hard to break here, so I'm going to take the opportunity to once again promote your book, The Truth is Fallen in the Street, and you can find that at store Dotvante dot com. This is a book about. What's going on specifically within our public indoctrination system otherwise known as schools. But you can get that, ladies and gentlemal so I highly recommend you read that. 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In fact, we just did the data or looked at the data, and Christian radio has actually taken over. It's the number one spot. It actually beat out country music, which I'm thrilled about because country music makes my ears bleed a little bit. Sorry, I know it's offensive, but it does. Okay, I don't want to hear a song about my dog died and my wife left me and truck broke down and what, Chris, don't don't start with me, Chris, I know I'm offending all sorts of people. Hey, if I didn't offend you, consider hitting the donate button. All right with that, let's go back to our guest Jay. I'm sorry if you like country music and I offended you, But no, let's get back into the unification. Yeah. So I wanted to point out that it's Christians I think perhaps in some ways are more susceptible to falling for a false view of unification because the Scripture has different places in there where. Unification is advocated. Jesus prayed in his high priest of prayer that we that they would be one. Right they he was praying, you're talking to his disciples and praying praying to God of course about that, and and praying for unity. And so yeah, unity is just it just rings with us. We like it because we want to be bigger than ourselves. We want to be part of something that's bigger than ourselves. We know that that, you know. And as I already said, we're made in God's image, and God exists in perfect unity with himself and the in the Trinitarian Godhead. And so yeah, so I think we fall for that. We we fall for the Satan's corruption of it. I don't want to say fall for that. What I mean is the corruption of that. We fall for that. So we like to be part of things bigger than ourselves. And so in the Great Reset narrative, I like to point out the uh some of the terms that are there and so we if I can find them here it's things like uh like together and things like I hang on, I gotta find that. I thought it was words like we our. Here it is together, we our us, collective, collaborate, community, common united, partnership, think of public private partnerships. Right, it's all about working together and it sounds good, you know. So Christians Unfortunately, I think fall for this not realizing again that this unification in the world or you know, in the world system, is really rebellion against God. Jesus said, John wrote in What the First John, Uh, I'm not sure which chapter anyone who loves the world right. Is? I forgive me. I can't quote it now anyway. I do not love the world nor the things in the world right anyone who loves the world, you know, it's not a good situation. So we gotta we got to be unified in Christ and in the truth and in love, true love, not a woke version of love, not in the world system. So that's my that's my encouragement. I guess for people why, you know why, I want to alert them to this potential pitfall. Yeah, and if I may, you know, this isn't a quote from the Bible, but it is a quote from our founding fathers, and it was, you know, rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. And that's kind of how I live my life. I got to admit I'm a little bit obnoxious, perhaps, but when the whole rest of the world is telling me do this or go that direction, my response is generally just no, And I'm okay with that because going back to that quote rebellion to tyrants, I recognize that this world, the whole structure, has been designed by tyrants, with ultimately the ultimate tyrant, Satan himself, being in control of all of these these evil sycophants. And so when they're telling me take the shot, when they're telling me globalization is a good thing, when they're telling me digital currency is the way to go, my response is always. No, I'm not going to do that. And you know you can kill me, which I say on the show all the time. Don't threaten a Christian with a good time. But because ultimately I'm restored at that point with God, I'm in his presence. So I think Christians need to move away from this this global unity that they're promoting. It truly is a false gospel. It is. It is. And I'm going to quote Jermaine to your point at Acts chapter four, and we're all familiar with this, this account where Peter and John were arrested, and you know, here's what they responded when they were commanded, now commanded not to teach in Jesus' name, he says, But Peter and John answer and said it. Then, whether it is right in the sight of God to give heed to you rather than to God, you be the judge, for we cannot stop speaking what we have seen and heard. We obey God rather than men, whose chapter. Five says, yeah, acts one of my favorite verses. Yeah, Let's obey God, not men. And that that brings me to a point we discussed a little bit earlier, as I I'm afraid that in our society, American society, we are unfortunately, and I just I really think this is an important error. That's a thing to point out as. An error, is that we're we're we're we're acting as Americans first and not Christians first. And I think it's reverse. We really should be Christians first and not Americans first. Now, look, I'm I'm patriotic in the sense, you know, God is a god of nations, of congenous revelation verse chapter twenty one, and right the end there's three or four times that mentions nations and kings and in the eternal state even right, God's a god of nations. He's not a god of a global unity. But when your nation goes. Against God, then it's time to draw that line and I think that Christians aren't seeing that we're not. We're just we're so interested in the right left dichotomy struggle, you know that we're and we're caught up in that narrative and in perhaps motivating trying to fight the good fight. I understand that, you know, people are trying to do the right thing, but they're not seeing that we've already gone way past this point. We're past that. And so you know, and what is it Hebrews chapter ten versus twenty one, I want to say, talks about how they joyfully accepted the seizure of their property all right, looking for better rewards coming, you know, is right before Hebrews eleven. That Hall of Faith, and you know. The War Economic Forum says, you know you're gonna own nothing and be happy. Well, I don't want to give up my property. I'm gonna I'm an American. I don't want. But look, we need to be Christians first. I actually know of Christians who have given up property far more of far more value than anything I own, and they did it with joy, knowing that their reward is in heaven and it's not on this earth that they're going to be rewarded. So I'm gonna encourage people to be Christians first, and you know Americans after that, I. Would agree, and just kind of expanding on this, there are certain things that Christians, you know, American Christians, I should say when they get in gat aged in politics that they do stand for. Right, the abortion would be a factor. Right, you talk to pretty much every Christian, and I'm excluding those progressive Christians who do not know the Word of God, but most Christians would say I am fundamentally opposed to abortion because we believe that life is created in the womb and we don't have the right to murder that too. But those same Christians, they won't take the necessary steps. They'll still do business with businesses that are promoting abortion, that are pouring tons, millions upon millions of dollars. Into the abortion mills. They won't boycott our taxes going to providing government sponsored abortions. So they're not willing to take those steps. And then we fall prey. To you and I were talking off camera, but manufactured Saviors and you had such a great way of putting this, Kamala Harris, Joe Biden. They were the weak side, and Donald Trump is the strong side of this. And yet when we look at so many of the policies that are being enacted in the current administration, we see this globalist plan being enacted right before our eyes, and we're applauding it. Yes, And that's why we don't we don't recognize it because it is masquerading as a as republicanism. It's masquerading as the correct side, the right side, not the left side, the right side. And so what I'm suggesting there is that both sides are used by Satan and his globalists with his globalist agenda, and they use when I say, they mean again the Satanic you know forces, if you will, the principalities and powers and whatnot again, using humans to do their bidding and whatnot and build their system that they're they're used. They use the right when they need the right for certain things. And in this case, they needed a strong person. So we were talking about, you know, Christians opposing the North American Union back, you know, a couple decades ago or whenever it was joining with Mexico and Canada and all this stuff. Well, now Trump is essentially in print in words at least, and in many clear steps that we could talk about if we had more time, has has done that is doing that. Pete Hexath come out and said, we're or a greater, greater American Defense Unit. You know, we're greater America or you know, I can't remember, forgive me, I don't have that exact quote in front of me, but wow, we just became the North American Union. And instead of instead of giving in weakness up to the global system, we have joined the global system in strength. And that's where Trump comes in. You know, Trump has done with his strength position, flying that flag, you know, make America great again. He has done more to accomplish the wrecking. Of the American. Sovereignty than than all those other guys, because look, it's happened. Essentially happened. We were part of that regionalism. Now and when I say that is hexas statement, I can't stress this enough. It essentially says how Trump and that whole sector is viewing us now we're a Greenland and Cuba and Venezuela and pan we're all one region. That's regionalism, and that's Club of Rome. That's nineteen seventy three, you know, Limits to growth. World Economic Forum. Klaus Schwab working with the Club of Rome back in those days. We have accomplished Trump. Under Trump's administration and with his help, that has been accomplished, and the right and the Christians included, are cheering it on. It's just not it's they're not seeing it. Now. Keep in mind we talked about this too. That doesn't mean I'm pro Kamala Harris. Please don't don't misunderstanding. I'm not saying that I'm in favor of any of that leftist garbage. What I'm suggesting is what we think is the right really isn't the right. It's the left in disguise. And that's what makes it so hard for Christians to see it. And you know a lot of people people want evidence for this kind of stuff. You know what, we have the evidence. The evidence is add nausea and there's so much evidence. It's but the problem is it takes time to go through that evidence, and people have to read and they have to listen, and they have to study history, and they have to think for themselves. What I mean by that. Is not let their pastor or their whatever. You know, or artificial intelligence. Or artificial intelligence, or their political party think for them, you know, and I'm look, I'm I'm guilty of all these problems. I'm not saying I'm no I know everything or I've got it all. I don't have it all together. I'm not suggesting I do. I don't want anyone to. I don't want to come across in an arrogant fashion. I'm just look, I'm trying to take an example, an honest look at the American Church, and I think that we were not seeing what's really happening, unfortunately, and because of it, we're joining the We're joining it. They're joining the the leftist anti god world system. We're joining it happily without any really resist stunts. I in agreement with you on this one. We are we have we have that strong delusion I think about us that we we've accepted this. We're just moving along. I'd love to as we're closing this show out, obviously, you and I we we know how this will end. Uh, And I want to stress this to the the audience. Look, just because Satan is moving and is creating this BT system and we're kind of watching it be created before our very eyes, that does not mean that God is not in control. He is in control and ultimately these are his plans, his plans to bring about greater goodness. But we know how it's going to end. We know that the devil will accomplish some things. But I'd love to say just just give the. Audience a few solutions as they're navigating how to how to. Not be a part of this be system that's created. I want to give yous some solutions and a Bible verse I love. I gotta got to close with a Bible versific. How many how many minutes do I have just so I. Can get Yeah, we can go a few more minutes. Okay. The solutions are to disconnect wherever possible. That's that's my you know, that is my solution. And that's opposite of what the world and everything convenient is telling us, everything is telling us connect, Connect, Connect. It will give you freedom quote unquote to do whatever you want, but it's really bringing us into the slave state, and. I think that's the wrong way to be. So, yeah, we use the tools of the Internet and the tools of AI et cetera for or good right, but disconnect wherever you can. Stop getting the apps, stop buying stuff that need an app to stuff. Just disconnect. But I want to leave with some an encouraging Bible. Verse Daniel seven to twenty three can be a daunting verse, but I want to read verse twenty seven. So verse twenty three talks about this fourth kingdom on the earth, devouring the whole earth, treading it down, crushing it. And then it talks about the ten Horns, which we already touched on a little bit with the North American Union and whatnot. But wasn't the verse twenty seven It says, then then is a time sensitive word that's important to recognize. Then the sovereignty, the dominion, and the greatness of all the kingdoms under the whole heaven will be given to the people of the Saints of the Highest One, and his kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all the dominions will serve and obey him. There's that's what's coming for the Christian, but the true follower of Christ, the believer, the one who has received Christ, and not just a Christian in name only. So we have a lot to look forward to. This difficulty event in verse twenty three is is going to give way to verse twenty seventh, and that so I want to leave your listeners, and with that encouragement that that is coming. But we our job simply is to hold fast. To the truth and to do the things we've already talked about, to resist in the evil day, stand firm against schemes the devil, and again holding fast to Jesus Christ, fixing our eyes on him as the author effect for our faith and our and our true savior, our only savior. Absolutely, and to pull as many out of the bast system as we possibly can. And that is obviously an extension of the great commission there, ladies and gentlemen. Absolutely, and that's the purpose of this discussion. Absolutely. Yeah. Well, Jay, I can't tell you how much I've enjoyed this conversation. I hope I did my due diligence in getting through this entire paper. And ladies and gentlemen, there's a lot more to this, and I'm sure if you connect with Jay that he'd be willing to send this over to you. And remember this. Is for pastors, so I would suggest, hey, send both these episodes, part one and part two to your pastor, let them listen to it, and then we can get them the white paper here so that they can read through it and start addressing this from the pulpit and Jay, I know you want to comment on that, but yeah, comment on that and give us last words as well. Well. Real quick, as far as the paper, actually, I don't have a website, I've already told you that, but I do the paper is actually on the Mark three to seven website somewhere, and I have to confess I'm not sure where to talk to Sean about where it's located, but you could link that in the notes there if you want. That would be helpful people to be able to see it, and I'd love for people to get in touch with it. But yeah, pastors, my heart is that pastors will we'll receive this not as a hammer on the head, but as a wow, I see why this is important. Hey, I'm gonna I'm going to expose this and let people understand because, as we said, we were trying to save people. Not that we're the savior or Jesus the savior, but we have a role to play and people are heading off into oblivion right into this system and we are not. Unfortunately, the by and large pastor or leadership is not alerting the flock to this threat. So it's my heart's desire that this paper and this interview. These interviews will will go to remedying that whatever way the Lord allows. Yeah, once again, I echo exactly what you're saying there. So, Jay, it has been amazing having you on and thank you for taking the time to do not just one episode, but two episodes because I think this is a very important subject for my audience to hear and so continue your work, sir. I look forward to reading more watching your videos because we need to connect with like minded individuals and tackle the enemy. Do battle. It's time, ladies and gentlemen, to be that William Wallace and to grab that broad sword and to say say, you know things that stand out in people's minds. You know that they may take our lives, but they'll never take our freedom. Jay, thank you once again. I'm gonna go ahead and close this out. If you hold on one more minute post production, Saarah, goodbyes. I'd appreciate it. 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