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Spokane Valley could become a sanctuary city. A different Houseman Caleb Collier says that this I'm. Opposing that the City of Spokane Valley issue of proclamation stating that our city is a second minute sanctuary. Welcome to the fire today in Church and State the Scientific Formula of God and Creation with doctor Nathaniel Israel Israel. Hellocation you patriots, and welcome to Church and State where we drive morality and religion over tolerance and apathy. And I'm your host, Caleb Callier, once again your favorite for all right, shock Jock and the show that talks about politics and religion. Jesus Christ is our referee, so it's always nice and clean. Real quick points you to the website Church and State dot Media. Check out this site. Look fill out the registration for him. Get our newsletter, which is very important especially with censorship issues. We want you to get the emails. I'm highlighting a number of the shows and also I call every single one of you who fills this out. 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Doctor Israel, thank you for joining us on Church of State. Oh, thank you very much, and I'm very glad that you're having me here. Yes, yeah, it's a real pleasure to have you on here. You were kind enough to send me one of your books. You're actually a prolific author. You sent me one for myself and one for my kids as well. You have a kid's version. But I've gotten through about half of this book. It's you know, there's a lot of scientific information in here, but you did write it in a way that it wasn't just for the academics. I guess there was kind of a balance in the book. It wasn't just for the academics, it wasn't just for the lay person. You kind of blended the two together. You're right, and thank you for that. In fact, it is a very big discovery, and so big that I could not put it in just one book. That's why I wrote many. As of now, I have a modern ten and one is called Turbulent Original Union. That's for the. Physicists high level science. Another wise it's called Tourberlen Original of Life. That's for life scientists. I remember, it's called Tobin of Chemical Particle. That's for chemists. So the latest one that the leader's one that you called a bold semi formula of creation is like the bottom line. I try to appeal to everybody. And from there anyone can go read Creature version they are pleased to study. One of the things I really enjoyed about your book is, you know, there seems to have been this this divide that was established you were either science or you were faith, And for a long time the world has been led to believe you can't have both, right, you can't have the best of both worlds. You can't have your cake and eat it too. But your approach here is to use the scientific data some of the giants within science, you know, Einstein's or Isaac Newton, and examine the data. And you were able to do so and realize that, hey, a lot of the scientists are getting this information wrong. That's correct, and that's the mystery for hundreds of years. Let's say three thousand, four hundred years that the biblical economic creation was revealed by Moses, who said that God of Israel created the earth and finished information on the thirty day, the moon and the sun on the forty. Nobody has ever proven this scientifically. You will see questions that we tell you that believe in God and creation, and yet some of them embraced theories like Big Bang evolution that we know very well go against God. And on the other side we will see scientists, secular scientists who will say that know everything about everything and denying God to a point that it is hard for Christian to even defend their faith using pure science because nobody has ever done what I did, and scientists who are looking for proof of God can not find from the Christian preaching or for the Christian theory, the advancing and themselves, they are able to find the answer through the sticular theories that go against God. I'm privileged to have come to this discovery at the crossroad of certain faith where you don't have to choose between science and faith. It is a framework, a new framework, no. Nowhere, it's very new from UK to American people now they are being shocked trying to talk to me and see what is going on. It is a mystery revealed at a time like this and have to go value for you as we talk a more. Yeah, yeah, I absolutely love that. One of the things that frustrates me coming from the more the more secular side of society is is that they believe in science, right, and they like to wag their fingers at us. You just believe in your your sky daddy as they refer to it, and you don't question how this earth could have been made. And yet the Bible very clearly gives us the creation account. Uh. And God's the author of science. He you know, he doesn't operate outside of science. He science is his creation, and so it makes sense to me that science would be able to prove that he did what he said he did. And you see, if you go back to the Bible in the beginning, when God created Adam and Eve, one of the first commandments he gave them be careful of the foods of knowledge, because if you eat that fool, you've be in trouble. They did not believe God sitting tempted then, and they failed, and they eat the frut. It is search of knowledge that began with our forefather, that led progressively to the creation of science. And because in the beginning and even today, it is not based on what God is saying, It is not based on God revelation. Most of the things they are doing a lot. Let's see how they are interpreating scientific data is the problem. The problem is not safe. Your road data collected by. Scientists from the universe, from nature, from even from the invisible is correct. But the problem is how are they interpreting those data. To that point, we can say that secular science theories are against God, most of them as far as creation is concerned. But your road data they collected is not against God. So my my, my duty, that our honored to handle is to analyze this data through a new filmwork. I did not collect a single data. I use what collected by tob seventies for thousands of years and verified by NASA to come here. Yeah, I really really like that. And let me ask you a question regarding the different theories within this. Now, obviously most people are familiar with the Big Bang theory, and then obviously Christians are going to be familiar with the creation story. But within that, and especially within the Christian Church, it seems to me that there's been some that have compromised, some that are now claiming that well, God could have used evolution, or the Big Bank could be describing what God did, or maybe we live in not a young Earth but actually an old Earth that's billions of years old. Is just the church attempting to compromise with what the established secular scientists are claiming. You are right, it is a compromise. But when I when I studied this friend deeply and at last that it is also the consequence of ignorance. I don't think that more scientices who embraced those secular theory knew what they were doing properly. You see, after after my discovery, I went ahead and I study most of the immediate religion, the whole in this book, I color, uh, lets me see accurate, alady, accurate, certainly the proof of God. When I reveal the religion in the world, I discovered that only the Bible has a story that match exactly the math I did. Now you're talking about different division of creationism. Before I go there, let me first talk to you about the creation is worldwide. You see, when you take the world religion, it is only Islam and Christianity, let's say Islam and Judaism that have a creation story, and Andduism, Buddhism, Confucianism, the religion China, they don't have any creation story. You go to Africa and Caribbean Animism, they don't have any creation story. Now when you take Islam and Judaism, it's Christianity and Islam all do. Islam say that they believing system of creation. They put the formation of the earth on their one and the reformation of the moon in the sun on this sis, which is against what the bibble says. The Bibbles say the earth was completed on d three and the sun and the moon on their fall. And that exactly what my family, my formula approved to say that creationism Islam is Islam creationism not can prove that they are centificly or wrong. Islam is around the delusion. They might prove that. Now when you take the question, I can break it there maybe in three like we said the Young Earth creationists, the Young Earth who believe that the earth is less than ten thousand years, who believe that the day of creation are really twenty four hour consecutive days. And you end that they are right. This is true, But our tell you relations where were they miss it? You have the Old Earth creationist who will tell you that yes God created, but there we say that the creation there's a billion of years back in the wrong theory of evolution and big men. And then you have also the intelligence design day two try to prove creation, but they don't. People publicly say that the designer is God. They see to be a little bit more diplomatic in their approach to usels to prove a desire that not clearly God. Although it is now when. I in the book I reviewer of them, I see where they're wrong. The problem is when you take the young Young Earth creation is all do they believe? In the riting the approach was not right. You will see the most of them to prove creation. They're talk to you about about Noah flowed, Noah flow. They are talked to you about the Foresire, They talked to you about Green Canyon. They taught you about dinosaurs, and basically they toty. Most of these speakers tell around those things. But all those the intention is good. You will not find most of those things are listed in gener sy chatter one, which is about creation. There is no no grave flow is one. There's no foresire, no dinosaurs. Of course that was all. Maybe talk about animals, but to talk about creation of sellers to your body Geneschapter one from verse one to twenty one is plenty. But you won't see any of the things that they focused on there. I get it. They don't know how to do better. Now, when you go consider the Old Earth creationism, I know them. I just don't want to listen. Then a big mystic they will tell you, go use billions of years to create the universe in his sixties, nonstence, it doesn't much. Still you will find preachers. Make God tell evangelists, theologian top people with respect defending that nonsense. And when if the fears the free tankers look at it their life and of course they are happy. They are happy to secretion back in the billion of year. So me, when I came into aud this, thank god I was not trained as a physicist in America. I got my PhD in plant science and I finished my PhD first off my class. So it is my last story that led me to go see what NASA. NASA is saying by the formation of the universe, and that's why I found data. And because I didn't have any prejudice, any preconceive mindset, led me to where is the truth? And that's where we are now. You know you you uh dropped a lot of knowledge bombs on, that's right there. Oh, let me dissect a few things. Number one, what you were talking about with with these these people who have puffed themselves up with knowledge, and I'm sure you would agree with me that so oftentimes when we deal with these individuals, they're lacking wisdom. And that seems to be the issue within the secular scientific community is they're so puffed up with their own knowledge and oftentimes inventing theories that contradict each other, that they're lacking that wisdom that you and I both believe is found in the Bible. I also really really appreciate the fact that you called out Islam right off the bat well. I mean, you called out all the other religions, all the world religions out there, and none of them have a creation theory or story, but Islam does. But mathematically you are able to prove you guys are wrong. And if you're wrong at the foundation, right at the creation, then your entire religion is false. If you're wrong from the very beginning, why would I follow that? And then the third point here, and I'll let you hit on all three of these topics that I just said. But the third one here is that compromise that you're discussing there and really calling out the Christians. Look, if you believe that God, the Father, the creator of it all, can perform miracles still today, can heal you like that? Why would you believe that He needed billions upon billions of years to create this whole thing in the first place. That's a good comment. Yes, you are right. They like the wisdom you see in the Bible. When you see the teaching of apostal pot he will tell you plainly that the wisdom of this world is folishness and the foolishness that the world think we believe in have is gods wisdom. So people who don't know God, they don't have the lights to understand spiritual things. They're living darkness. But where the thing is shocking though there are many people who say they believe in God, are just some of them. If I can name companies leaders who are trying to fight me for that dis goovernor will be shocked how many of our own leader are doing the same thing or believer they are doing. And because of the ego, they don't want to repent, humble themselves and embrace the truth. You see. So wisdom is the key, but also we need to be we need to die for the truth. Even if we don't have any interests in defending we're serving God. Now you're talking about Islam. Of course they have a creation story. You see. It is only in the Bible. That from the first book, from the first verse, will you have a chronological story in Islam. If you get quaran, do not begin by your creation. Even their own elit, their own scholar prove that they don't have a clear story. It is here and there that drops some vese in the whole Quuran. It's as if the Muslim the forefather is trying to prove the you wrong and you sis story very shocking and like you said, yes, if you miss the beginning, you cannot get the end. And this is not preaching. I'm not a pasta. I'm not a preacher. It's a mathematic People can fight me as they wish, but that's what it is saying. And it's a kind of shocking. But this discovery at the time, like this, this new joke. It took me to fus to come here and I was quiet and now time to speak, and nobody can stop it. Sure, absolutely, yeah, So let's get into the nuts and bolts, because I'm sure the audience is like, I want to know how he mathematically was able to prove that the Earth and let me get the numbers correct here it's on the back of your book here, But the Earth was formed in two point eight two days, the moon and three point three two days, and the sun three point six nine days. How are you mathematically and scientifically able to prove that? Good question, I will lease straight by using the example of the Earth and can't get it? Look and see for the moon and then the Sun. You see, one of the greatest mystics the scientific people have have made is they don't know the history of the journey of the stelesto body precursor. It is not by change that we have the Moon at the precise distance from the Earth, moving at the precise speed, and we have the Earth itself at the prey sale descend from the Sun, moving at the precise speed. And we have the Moon, the Sun, and the Earth having precise size. So my formula to make a long stay shot prove that all those body had a precursor, and that precators have a precise journey and travel a certain distance before arriving at the place where we see those bodies today. And then the forefather or the fore reunner was a rapy around at the precise speed to become what we have today. So if you take for the Earth, the formula is proving that before runner of the Earth, which I called the precursor of the Earth, move from about the position of the song and travel a distance echo to that separating the Song and the Earth before arriving at about the orbit. Of the Earth. And then that precurture was a rappy around like how you can wrap a spaggling model around the fog to become the earth we know today. So the formula you see if I take I don't know if you can see if I take a I'll show you it is a t echo d di valid by V E plus two happy divaried by V. What does for me? And I told you it the following of the earth move from about the song to the earth at the speed. So if you take the distance separating the song and the Earth and divide that by that the speed of that journey, you will see the first part of the term it you took for the Earth to be found? I will tell you so how how I get there? I'm not giving a third thirdy from less panias. So take the distance between the Earth and the song, and divide by the speed that scientists don't know since the days of Isaac Newton. They know that speed. It is called escape versity of the song. The speed requires a friend to move out of the song minimum speed. Then know that. So when you take the din and divided by that speed, and to that you are going to add, Now, how not you for the forerunner of the earth to be rapier around you take the length of the forerunner of the Earth and divide that by the speed of the rapping. Simple math. So the distance approve it is about the cirl confidence of the perimed all around the Earth. And when we know the radius of the Earth. To calculate the perimedia around the Earth or the circle of the Earth, you just do two, multiply by pie. Multiply by the radious pie is three point one, and you divide that by the speed at which the Earth is moving around the Sun today. You were non since since hundreds of years. So the how that was the formula is saying, but how do you get there? But to get there, sir, it took me two eelve years. I went over hundreds of valuable collectors on the stress of body. I study a lot of stuff science, chemistry, life science. Thank God. My journey from Africa said, I was born and raged in Africa. I'm moved to America about twenty years ago. For almost fifteen plus years now I'm a US citizen, and I'm proud to be living in this great country and I'm proud to be discovering this here, which is also all their nation. So my journey from Africa to America, and in America. What I went through before I got my PhD and after my PhD have trained my mind to think a certain way, to think a little bit differently. So when I got those that are a lot of those valuable, people can assess them in my books the borders scientific God of God in Creation or when they go there, they can serve the book I wrote. It's another thing, Jos, that are that allowed me to piece together, one by one what may have happened from this variable to that one to this one, the descend between things, the size, the speed, how they actility, how is the opp a ton of stuff? And together there there is a mystery in science that they're called turbinus turbiness. It is well known as a mystery, in fact, as an unsolved mystery in science. But me and not ha been betraying. As a physicist. I was able to crack that thing. And it was breaking that code that let me find a formula. And for five hundred years the scientists and doubles have been trying to trying to prove it. That cannotprove it. So I had to break that before I discovered the simple formula. I just told you I hope people can follow up in the book and see where they detailed. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I'm glad you brought up the turbulence because that was actually going to be my next my next question for him. We'll probably have to wait till after the break there. But going going back to your formula that you that you you found developed, does that require a focal point? Then? Is that part of the mathematical equation that if you're going to be looking at the distance between these two celestial bodies, that there has to be a focal point from where it started. You see, it's a matter for what I called split gathering. It's a concept of icon what that means the waste less to body were firm. It is as if something was split and then the frame bone out of it was we gathered. Now, ask any scientists why is the Moon orbitting the Earth and why is the Earth orbitting the the song and why they even think there is some Let's say the Solar system is orbiting around the center of the Milicure Galaxy, the galaxy you belong to. And then if you tell you that even the Milicure galaxy sef is or seem to be orbiting another, another center of close up galassy and so forth. So when you study the the way. Body are organized across the universe, it is like a nest of art of body orbiting after body from the satellite to planet, to a stellar system, to a galaxy, to a glassy system, to a glassy glassy system. You see when you see like the global network of body. The heart is now even if when you take atoms, when you take chemical particles, if you were normal for more than one hundred years, that atoms are like you have in the middle with the nucleus or let's say the proton, the proton and the netroom and run. They believe you have the electron. It is the same thing that replicating everywhere you come to a nation, you will see families. You have a father and a mother surrounded by by chidri. You have your family so London by grandpet, great grand pet. The same thing that happened to cescial body, that's happening here. So to answer the question, you shot, yes, that is the beginning for for for those things verriference, veriferous and you must consider that a friend before you come property. All right, I appreciate that response. We've hit that heartbreak leads and gentlemen, but we're going to continue on abe about another fifteen minutes. Hey, this is Caleb Call. You're a Church and State and I want to tell you about methylene blue. For a long time now you've seen the MAHA people using methylene blue. I thought i'd give it a try. You know what, It helped me considerably, not only with mental clarity, but also with insomnia. 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Now, we were talking about the theory that was developed, the mathematical equation, and so as I'm looking through this, and I had another question that I wanted to bring up, and and then I'll go to turbulence, sir. But can we apply your mathematical scientific principles to every single planet? So can we look at Mercury, Venus, Jupiter for example, and determine when those were created as well? Of course, and I did that in this book. See this book, All the Turbulent Original for the Universe. It is like seven hundred pages. In it, I developed, I detail a lot of things, and I calculated how long each of those body, I mean how long it took for them to be firm. And from Venice to Mars to let's Mercury to Venice to Earth to Mars to Jupitter, Saturn, Uranis to all of them, they have precise dates. And when you plug the formula, it's easy. Not just in this trar system. Now if you go to other other stellar sister other galaxy, you can also do the same formula to calculate how long they were born. But because the Bible focused on the Earth, the Moon, and the Sun. I shoot to focus on those things, or do I can ply anywhere I don't. I don't have to. So that's it, Okay, absolutely fascinating. I mean I've always been fascinated by astronomy. I always look to the stars and just kind of wondered, and so I love the concept. I absolutely love the idea. Now, one of the things that you also talk about in your book is is turbulence. That it was very turbulent in the creation. Can you explain that for the audience. Yes, turbuleness. It's, like I said earlier, a very complicated topic. It is like the way things like fruit, let's say, water or air move and organize themselves. When you talk to the aspect, the aspect in turberness and ask them to define for you, Devid Tall, turbuleness is a chaotic thing, a random disorder. That how they define it. But as for me, when I study, it's not a chaos. It we the people who are trying to to assess it, who lack to understand what happening there and me I came to a complusion by analyzing their own data slowly. No pressure was not me, no church, no university, no government, no nobody was helping me. So I was against all those pressure. I took my term slowly because I when I saw it that I felt like, hey, this is that I need to handle. I need if I told them that we have killed me by now, if I can't see how they how not they are against me, not just vesticular even the people who who said the believing god out there. So turbulist is not chaos. Its re organized. When you have when you take water in the bucket and you throw in the air, you see it can break down. You can't do people can't do that. Then themself take your order throw in the air. You see it can break down into pocket or water. When we see cloud in the sky, whether it's for over a hurricane even well when how fen turn and organized into structure, all those are part of doubleness. When you have doubles, you have water, cout three d find organized in like in different structures that you can easily see it. Now it's defined for the people to understand. And when you go into the bath, what you need to discovery is when you have turbulens, things are moving at precise speed and b real range, differently according to precise law, according to precise asses and references, giving birth to precise structure, which can be moving in different circle, different orbit, elongated and tilted in a different way. But when you don't know how to organize them, you may think fair and moving properly. Why is the all the planets, let's say, all the asteroids, Why are they moving around the song? Why is the the moon moving around the Earth? Why is a mass two satellite moving it around mass? You go to GPT more than sixty satellite moving there around Repeter Sudden more than two moving around them, and still all of them moving around this song? Imagine, imagine you you you reduce that with a small scale you can see how how do you think I've been messed up? So if you misunderstanding about this concept, that case people to be thinking that chaos and when I study or they're collected, you can never ever crack the code of the universe if you don't onnerstand that. I absolutely love this. You know, the Bible tells us that God is a god of order, and science has told us that there's chaos in our environment in the universe. You're absolutely right. What you just said makes complete sense to me. I hope it does to the audience as well. We may view it and because of our finite human understanding, we may see that and say that's chaotic, But you're right, it all has order. Your example of throwing water up in the air, that may seem chaotic, but it still got formed to it, right, It's still water, it's it's gravity is taking effect. There's still order to all of that. I think that's absolutely fantastic and groundbreaking, honestly because it flies in the face of what modern science tells us. But just to a layman, it makes a whole lot more sense. M You see, even when you take the Bible, the first few versts got to say the beginning, God created heaven and earth. It is said the earth has no form, was formless, but God told us how tom if you said, the spirit of God move on the surface of the water, and God said there were division of water from water? You see? And then they said God gather things before forming the earth, the moon, and the sun, and many ever. Says a body that fair, I just said, it's turbulist. The separation of water from water, the movement of water God own minded. Do you think we move on the water like slowly. It is a power. It was very powerful. If you take water and shake it slowly, it will not move as if you shake it very very strongly. It is the way God shook fames. God really find God pushed fine emotion that gave everything motion. That's the beginning of energy, that gave everything in motion and the way those things end up being unless therefore Renner ends up being organized later to what we have today as celest body, our atoms, a particle, molecule. Whatever you whatever you you you want in a way that everything is scared. It is scared. Scientence now themselves know that if you change one here, one changes why they are all connected. And God knows what he did. He knew what he uses days, He knew what he gave us days to rest fish different things organized for Klander, a lot of stuff. Long shot. God is right and please people to get who understan science can't get what color how baby universe was from. It's one of the book I really be for for children. Parents who never went to middle school can understand this, so they can they can wry from themselves what I'm talking about. You see like this one, this book. I call reconciling science and creation accurately. In it, I explain a lot of things in the Bible that people read and for granted past those preachers. Christians who want to really answer many other questions need to get a double con and you read and I'm here. I'm available invitement to your church, to your school, to your university, whatever. I can't speak and help, no matter how much I want to pay me on that. My goal is to have the whole world know this is a real We need to tell this. Seriously, absolutely well, that that is uh. You know what God has called you to do. When you were when you were speaking about all the different creations, the things that we bypass even when we're reading into the Bible. I loved the separation of waters that you were bringing up. You know, God's response after every single day was it was good. His creation is good. And I think Christians need to remember that that that order, not chaos, but that order in his creation, that it is good. I love that you brought up all the different books, and we're going to showcase the different websites here. We got to ladies, John that I want to bring to your attention. Number one, we have Science one eighty dot com, and Chris is going to show you that right there at Science one eighty dot com. Go check this out. It's where you can order all the books. And there's also a second website that I want to promote as well, Israel one twenty dot com. There's a lot of information on both of these websites. But I also, sir, and then I'll turn it back over to you to plug the website once again, or the websites once again. I love that you travel, that you're going to churches, and I know I have a large audience of Christians and a lot of you are probably pastors. This is a great opportunity to bring a man, a very very well educated man into your congregation to shore up the wisdom and knowledge that we have as Christians so that they can go out into the world and reject what secular science is telling us to be able to defend our faith, which, by the way, the Bible tells us that we should always be ready to defend our faith. And so I would encourage every single pastor out there watching the show reach out to Doctor Israel and bring them to your church, and I'll turn it back over to you to plug the websites against surround your books. Thank you very much for coming. I'm available. Don't say your heart no. If you have money, I can't help you. I can answer a question and you can gather people in your church on the screen. I can help you. See, I was lucky the company before I began this. So if my goal was just to make be rich, I will don't. But it's satisfied. So and I'm willing to share this with the world. Unlike and well speaker who will tell you you might spend me this before I spe this. I don't want to do that or do I can help me help the world to know that really God is true. So we can have a mathematical or incientific prove to the revival we are looking for. You sippreciate say. Thet come from the politition, it will come from the world. If you come from ourself. Let equip ourself. So it can be really the church that influence this kid and this. To have a story we. Can take and understand to defend our faith and believe believe in God. Yeah, and uh, there was there was a little bit of an audio issue there, and I apologize to the audience. But it was just right there at the very end. But sir, it's been an absolute pleasure having you, and you know, just to reiterate what you were saying there, Uh, defend your faith. Bring this man in to be to be a speaker you already heard from his own words. I mean, this is a man that has dedicated twelve years of his life to exploring these theories before he ever brought his to the public eye. That's a man of patience, that's a man of humility. And once again, you're going to be edified if you start at least reading these books. So I recommend them. I thank you, sir for sending me two free copies, one for me and one for my kids. I haven't brought it over to my kids yet, but definitely they're going to be reading it. And I just I want to thank you once again for just being a bold man of the faith and using the area where God had given you gifts to where you could actually promote biblical literacy, promote the sciences that God is the author of. So again I thank you for joining us on church and State, and thank you for all the work that you've contributed to our faith. Thank you very much, and for any question that it comments emailed me from suns dot com or is com, I will be pleased to assay you and God bless you. Thank you sir. 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