Church & State -UFO Disclosure with LA Marzulli

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He is an author, lecturer, filmmaker. He's actually the author of fourteen different books, including the Nephilum Trilogy, which is absolutely phenomenal and with everybody talking about aliens right now, this is the perfect episode. La. Thank you so much for joining us on Church and State. Thanks for having me really appreciate it. Good to be here, absolutely yes. So with what I just said, all of a sudden, Christians are talking about UFOs, that they're talking about aliens. All these pastors are going out there saying that they've been brought to secretive meetings with the government to ready people for an alien encounter. Well that's the prevailing story. It's sort of everywhere. The question is was it really our government that did it? Are these just whistleblowers? We don't have a trail, we don't have anything we can pay back to. Right now, it's a lot of hearsay, even from the people that were allegedly there, and it's being what's troublesome to me, And I just did a show with my publisher, John Charisma John Mattaraso, who works at Charisma Media, And you know we published they published the Run the Disclosure shameless plug here but seventeen year uns and right now we're up to run number twenty eight, so Runs of the Disclosure dot com. But here's here's what we talked about. And what's alarming to me this is being pushed out to the Christian Church. Oh, it's all demonic. Not so fast, not so fast, and that thanks for having me. How we can talk about this. So when we talk about demonic what are we really talking about? And unfortunately the Church for the most part, I mean, there are segments of Christianity which actually get into demonology and the difference between fallen angels and demons. Most Christians have no idea. They just lump it all together. Mistake number one, because what we're looking at is physical. What we're looking at has physicality to it. This is not phantom, This is not delusion. These are not you know, little puffs of things that come in and out. It's not what we're looking at. What we're looking at our nuts in bolts technology. You say yourself, well, why does God do that? Why would God allow. Something like that? Well read Second Kings chapter six. I got this from my friend man No Gonzalez, but I actually quoted this way back in the Nephilm trilogy which you reference. So when Elijah the prophet with a servant Kahazi, are surrounded by the Syrian army, go hazz He's thinking, it's like we're gonna die, it's over right, And I get that the natural man, but Eliza goes Lord open his eyes and boots Kahazi out of a tech Gahazi like his eyes are open supernaturally. What does he see? I saw the chariots of fire all around, Elisha. What is a chariot of fire? Let's go back a couple of thousands of years right, All you have in your lexicon the apex mode of transportation is a chariot thousands of years ago. That's it. It's all you got. So you're something and. You go chariot because you're trying to describe what you saw motive transportation, a vehicle, and this thing is really bright, it lights up. So what do you say? Fire? Because the fire is all you got. You have. You have oil lamps and torchlight and you've got bonfires and cooking fires. So what's the chariot of fire? You tell me, You tell me what a chariot of fire is. You can tap dance around that to mcgalskamo. But there and these are the good guys. These are the good guys. And then you say, well, why does why do angels eat technology? And this is ridiculous, So like, okay, let's go to another one. What about when the when the angels in the Book of Ezekiel. Two angels go into Jerusalem, and what do they have? They have slaughter weapons? What is the slaughter weapon? What about the angel who takes this inkorn and puts a mark on people's heads. We're looking at supernatural technology. What about the. Flaming sword that turns every which way that guards the entrance to the Garden of Eden. The cherub beam are next to it, but the flaming sword is in the middle. The cherub beam are not wielding it. The cher beam or the char beam are there. And in the middle is this flaming which turns every which way by itself. Boom, It's a lightsaber. And that's ridiculous, all right, not really flaming sword, lightsaber? You tell me what the difference is. Technology is all through the Bible. Then I'll just give you the last one. There's others I could point to. The New Jerusalem? Is that just a fansom? Is that just some sort of a Oh, there's nothing. Who's building a new Jerusalem? Fifteen hundred miles high, fifteen hundred miles wide and deep and all this Suther stuff? I mean, do you realize what we're looking at here? This is like, this is the eternal city. This is unbelievable, the new Jerusalem, and it just doesn't go boom on the earth and kill everybody. He kind of floats down. How is that even possible? We don't know. So at church. All that to say, we have a very truncated view of a supernatural. That's the background. So let's talk about the difference between demons and fallen angels. Angels immortal body, both the good and the that they cannot be destroyed. How do we know that? Because the bad guys wind up in Malaca Fire, and apparently that goes on forever. I don't pretend to understand that, but that's why they're not going to change. They're in some sort of a fixed state. Fallen angels are in a fixed state. They don't want to repent, they can't repent. I don't know how that works. It's beyond my bay grade, but there. Eventually they wind up in Malaca Fire with the false prophets and the whole deal, the Antichrist, everybody's there. They have immortal bodies demons according to the Book of Enoch. And immediately some people go, oh, you can't read the Book of Enoon. You're going to keep one book away from the people. You keep Enoch one. When you take chapter six of Enoch one and you overlay it with the King James Bible. Chapter six word for word, it's for except the sons of God are. The fallen angels see angels of Heaven. So the book of Enoch tells you exactly who the sons of God are. My mentor doctor id E. Thomas and his book The Amagic Conspiracy nail this. It's always been a Hilohim is in the Hebrew and it always refers to the angelic hoast. So these are the. Sons of God, These are the fallen angels. The fallen angels saw the women of earth, they were beautiful Genesis six, and took wives. Why did they do this? Genesis three fifteen, Thank you Gary Steerman. Why do they do this? It points back at Genesis threet fifteen. Adam and Eva in the garden. They've just done something unthinkable. They're not sure what it is. Their DNA has been changed. They are terrified. They're hiding from the Lord. They realize they're neggard. By the way Jesus bears our shame on the cross, He's completely neggd on the cross. Most people don't realize that he bears our shame. I mean, it's just don't get me going, because I don't want to get that rabbit trail. So Adam and Eva. Here the dragon's over here of a shining woman in the cost. Jesus is in the garden, pre you Carni Christ and he looks at the dragon and he says, this is the gateway to the entire Bible. Folks, understand Genesis street fifteen, Bible opens up. Don't understand Genesis three fifteen. Have the wrong ex to Jesus. Never understand what you're reading. In my opinion, you Gary Steerman for illuminating this years ago at the Nephelie Mounts conference. The Lord says, Jesus says to the dragon, your seed, your offspring will be at war with the offspring of the woman. The seed of the woman, the one coming from the woman will crush your head. You'll bruise his heel. Since the whole Bible three chapters later, what do we see this incursion from? You know, interdimensional entities with a very nefarious agenda. And guess what, And the Lord just showed me this about a month ago. The flood wipes everybody out except for eight people. Something happened to the inhabitants of earth. They sided with the dragon. But this injecture on my part, I always preface it by saying this the Lord. I thought the Lord showed me this. I can't prove it, but I felt it was like a revelation, and do it at what you will. Was there some kind of a mark something that was given to the people outside of Noah and his so and his son's wives that change their dna, that the Lord just wiped them all out because they were no longer human? What do we see in the Book of Revelation? Why does Jesus tell us it'll be like the days of Noah? Just just saying it's a lot of conjecture here, but the food for thought, it would be like the days of no when he returns. In the Book of Revelation, people take the mark. Anybody who takes the mark, what happens to them? They wind up in a like a fire. Why is that there is no grace in mercy? So does is there some sort of a connection that is not written in the biblical narrative? Very possible. That's why I always preface it it's conjecture, but something's happening, and what it is is the seed war, the mingling of the seed. Then Daniel two forty three, their seed will mingle with the seed of men, but they will not cleave to them. It's exactly where we are, so it's complex. Demons. Demons are the disembodied spirits of the nephilem. The nephilem are the progeny of fallen angels and human women, creating a high bred nephileine which was never supposed to be here, and that's why the flood and but disembodied spirits of a nephilene becomes the demons that wander the earth. They need bodies and do anhabit. When Jesus cast out the demons from a demoniac, right, we are legion when we are many. Okay, we don't know how many demons can fit in a human being, but they're there. And then they don't know. I could get down a rabbit trail here, but I'll restrain myself. But they go from the human being the man, to a herd of swine. We all know the story in the Swine Freak cal So demons need to inhabit a human being, an animal, or an object in order to manifest in this dimension. Fallen angels do not. Here's the proof text. Satan is a fallen angel. When Satan appears to Jesus, who was fasting and praying for forty days, right, turn the stones to bread. That's not a phantom. And then he takes Jesus. He takes Jesus and brings him up to a high place, right and shows him in a moment of time, all the kingdoms of the world fall down and worship me, and all these can be yours. So what we're looking at here nobody ever talks about this. First of all, there's by location. Jesus is in the desert, the dragon of cures. It's he's flesh and blood. He's not you know, he's an immortal being. But he's there. And he takes Jesus. That's not phantom, that's not demonic delusion. He takes Jesus and moves him by location from point A to the high place where he opens up time as we know it. And shows them all the kingdoms of the world. How is it possible? You see? We look at these things, but we turn the page because and then he moves them from the high place, moves them over to the temple mountain on a pinnacle of a temple by location again and then brings them back. It's physical, it's not delusion. It's not some sort of a mirage. He's there. He's moving from point A to point B to see and then back again to A. So fallen angels can shape shift. They can appear as Nordics, they can appear as male or female. They can appear as an angel of light. That's what our Bible tells us. So they can you know, what do they really look like? That's a three hour conversation and some of its conjecture. But we know that angels look like men. Paul tells us some of you have entertained angels unawares. I had an angel sit next to me on a ski trip. I'm not making this up. I'm not making this up. I'll tell you this story real quick, real quick. Just me. I'm skating myself at spring conditions. My wife is on another. Chair lift, and I'm in a state where I'm not sure where the ministry should go next. I'm kind of in a quandary about it, and I'm praying, and you know, lord, I'm not sure what to do, what to call this this new feature? You know what, I need direction? So there's nobody in the ski lines, and it's a spring conditions. So I'm skiing up. And down and up and down and up and down this one and I pull in to the lift and I'm there by myself. It's a four four seater. Four people can sit in this chair. All of a sudden, I hear, hey, mind if I join you? I go, no, no, come on up. So this guy comes up. He looks like Chris Kringle Number one looks like Chris Kringle. He's completely fit. He's wearing a ski racing suit. He got all these different patches from all these different ski resorts. And he sits down. So here's I'm on the left of a chair. He's on the right of a chair, two empty seats, and he goes, how many days of skiing do you have this year? And I go only about fifteen, kind of puffing my chest up, you know, fifteen. Well he goes, oh, I got one hundred and twenty. So the guy skis every day and he's like, you know, he's a skier, and he goes, I guess you must be working, right, I go, yeah, I'm still working. Well what do you do why? I make films and write books. I'm in nepheline. So I'm figuring. Here we go, we have a five minute chair ride. I'm going to give him a thumbnail sketch. Maybe I'll maybe I can win his appetite and talk about Jesus who knows? Right, So I'm doing this and he skips right over that. He doesn't say anything, he doesn't ask me whoever neppelein right? And then he goes and I go, yeah, I have a YouTube channel and oh, have you ever seen this gun channel? And I go no, Well she's got her name is Itchy Boost. That's the name of the channel. She's got over a million subscribers. I go, oh, that's going to be on my league. This is where it goes off the rails. Okay, completely off the rails. Remember there's two empty seats. He reaches over and he touches my right shoulder and he goes, no, you're doing the right thing. Keep doing what you're doing. You're on the right track. And at this point when he's touching me, all of a sudden I've got brain fog, and I'm thinking to myself, what is going on? Who is this guy? Why is he? You know, he's just just met this guy. He doesn't know me. How can he possibly say? You're doing the right thing. Keep doing what. You're doing, You're on the right track. The chair lift ends, I get off, he gets off, He cuts in front of me, waves goodbye, and never see the guy again. I just go straight ahead with my eyes like this, what just happened. I'm trying to process it. And that night I asked the Lord R is that one of your guys? And I thought the Alway spirit say yep. And that was what I needed at that moment. By the way, folks, this doesn't happen every day. It's what I needed at that moment to propel me to do what we do here every day. Excellent. Now, I thank you for sharing that story with myself and the audience. I agree with everything that you've been saying. I mean, I've been studying this, not not to the degree that you have, but I've interviewed Gary Wayne, I've interviewed you, I've interviewed a number of individuals, just had Tim Chafee on as well. Talking about this, and I've always believed that the demons are the disembodied souls of the Nephelom. I like the Book of Enoch personally, it's to Christians who have an issue with it. Okay, fine, I understand where you're coming from. It's not canonized. Why did Peter reference it? Why is it quoted word for word in the Book of Jude. Great questions to have? And then when I'm looking at at what the government is telling us, and it's pretty wild, la. You know, for a long time it was put on your tinfoil hat if you believe in aliens. That was a weather balloon. Come on now, yeah, you've got the tinfoil hat right there. You're ready to go. And I'm ready to go. All of a sudden, just recently, all of a sudden, this has been declassified and the government's telling that there are aliens. Now as I look at it, and I want to I want to get you your take on this. When I look at it, it's yes, I think technology that that man has, technology, governments have technology that they're that we're not privy to. Uh, And so some of it could be that. I'm always very curious about Project Bluebean. But but I think generally I'm with you on this. There are angels and fallen angels that are active that we get glimpses of, glimpses of, and we're all kind of pondering, scratching our head. What was that? Well, I mean, there is. And and look and and they have Disclosure, which is a film by Dan Ferra. If you haven't seen it, it's a must see. And that led to our two day virtual conference where we had ten speakers virtually. We also showed two films on the whole subject, basically counteracting Dan Ferra's film, and he did a great job. I'm not trying to disparage Farah in any ways, great great filmmaker, bully for him. But what he's promulgating is that we're not alone in the universe. And the opening salvo of that film, the opening opening of that film, he. Has scientists, physicists. Congressmen, Congresswoman Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, and others looking right at the camera, and I love them. It's great filmmaking, very Sicago, like it goes from one person to another. We're not alone in the universe. We are not the only species in the universe. We are not alone in the universe. You know, I have seen with my own eyes, and you know UFOs and the pilots who who were in those UFOs. So it's very Sicado like and it goes like this, and they talk about christ from Mellen former you know, CIA guy says that they have free energy. It's going to be a wonderful boon to society. Luis Alisando says, this could change the trajectory of an entire species. So they're rolling it out. And when I saw that film, we saw it when it was released, you know, we paid the money and watched it. And this is what this is. Homework people, you know, that's why we have ten films on UFOs. Either do your homework, because you know, closing hands of the first, second, third, kind, abductions, crop circles, I mean, it's all there canter mutilations, two films on Roswell for Crying Out about Finally what is the Truth? Were the only Christian ministry. That's ten films that cover all aspects of it, all aspects of it. But I digress as usual. So what we need to understand here is that led to our virtual conference, which you can watch by going to Helmazoli dot com ten different speakers way in on the subject. From a Christian viewpoint, that was we pushed back. And when Steven Spielberg's film comes out and I've done a scene by seeing analysis of the latest trailer, trailer number three, and what we're looking at. And by the way, and trailer number three, they talk about Roswell, which is unbelievable, absolutely unbelievable. So this thing is being rolled out. This is the coming great deception. This changes everything in a moment of time and a twinkling of an eye. Again we know from Paul. I got this from my friend Mama Gonzales. You know the First Thessalonians chapter God says some strong delusions because they did not believe a lot. Okay, we get that. From that, I coined the term the coming great deception. The springboard for that is First Thessalonians, because they did not believe the truth, God said a strong delusion, the falling away is it a rapture of a church is in an apostasia, and Christians can argue about that. But what Christians can argue about is First Timothy chapter four. Thank you Mondo Gonzalez and it says this, Paul's speaking to Timothy. The spirit expressly states that in the latter days some will depart from the faith. Here's here's the punchline. Here's the kicker giving heed to seducing spirits of a doctrine of demons. It's exactly where we are. He writes this two thousand years ago. He's being transported through time physically, visually, we don't know. Paul doesn't tell us, but the spirit is telling him what's going to happen? Is it? Is it voice of skul We don't know. We don't know how he receives the information. He doesn't tell us that, but he does say this. The spirit, the Spirit of a living God, the Holy Spirit, the third part of the Trinity, which you know fully god fully manned, they're all connected. That's a mystery in itself. The Spirit of a Living God especially states that I'm a latter days some will depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits of a doctrine of demons. That's exactly where we are. I mean, there's a there's a little little pathlet that you know, I read has channeled information and it explains. Away the rapttion of a church. There is a potential for many people to leave the planet in an afternoon. The people who leave the planet in an afternoon do not. Fit here any longer, and they are stopping the harmony of the earth. That explains away the rapture of a church. What do you mean is it's a potential for many people to leave the planet, because that's how the rapture of a church is going to be explained. And I think it's after a nuclear event. And I wrote about this and the runt of disclosure. The book only goes up to Wrung seventeen and eighteen. We're up to rung number twenty eight and runs updisclosure dot COM's an interactive website every time there's a new rung up the ladder, like David Grush stating. Which is actually run number sixteen. I think in the book, David Grush in front of Congress under Oath, Nancy Mays asked him do we have crash craft? He says, yes, I've already talked about this in my Newstation interview. Well, Nancy Mays follows up, well, do we we have bodies from these crass craft? And Grush looks right, up at her. Yes, we have biologics. He's kind of on a cagy there. Then she goes, well, are they human or not even biologics under oath in Congress, And he looks right up at her and says, non human by alloics, you know, blew my mind completely away. So it's no longer the stuff of you know, Art Bell and George Norian. I love George Lory. I'll be on next Thursday night on Coast to Coast. I'm a regular there. At least two or three times a year I'm on that show. And because you know, I've been doing this for like. Thirty years, warning the church, warn the warning the people like George that these are not friendly aliens from some faraway star system. These are the fallen angels, and they are masters of deceptions. The title of Josh Let's book, Messengers of Deception. There is a breeding program which hails back to the Genesis sixth narrative, which hails back to Daniel two forty three. And this is why Genesis three fifteen is so important, because if we don't understand the property to Jesus of it, when we get to Daniel two forty three and we read that they're seat will mingle with the seed of men, but they will not cleave to them. Who are we talking about? Who are these mysterious they people? Jane three fifteen tells you exactly who it is, fallen angels mixing the scene. Why would Jesus want on us if you like the days of Noah when he returns, He's got the entire Old Testament not to go to goes right to the days of Noah. Yeah, he could have picked any destructive event. There are numerous destructive events in the Old Testament. He could have pointed to any of them. But he I mean, he could have pointed to Sodom and Gomorrah. No, he points directly to Noah. And I think that's a big clue for us. Now, I want to return back to the question I asked you in the beginning about these pastors, because the hair in the back of my neck goes up a little bit when I see all these pastors, some of them I will fully admit, I don't really trust, and I see them all talking about this alien encounter coming upon us, that they're getting ready for us. So I want you to get your take on that. But I also I want to couple it with this question, do you believe that the anti Christ when he emerges on scene, could be an alien? He won't be an alien, but he'll boast an alien connection. He will be a modern day nephile. He will literally you have a seed of the dragon. Think about this Rosemary's Baby the film, and I saw that when it came. It was not a Christian Okay, I saw the movie. I was very troubled by the movie. And I didn't know why I was troubled. And then again, why make a movie like this guy's because they always signal, they always tell you exactly what's going on. And will he will be? This literally the seed of the dragon, the seat of a serpent. That's that's who he will be. He will be a hybrid being. He will be a modern day nepheline, he will have all sorts of power. Is he walking on the planet now, I would say, yes, that's conjecture. I don't know, But I would say with everything that we're seeing the punch list, that Jesus gives us wars and room as a wards, families, bestl of Earth, breaks in diverse places, troublesome times, matter be twenty four twenty one Mark thirteen. Yeah, we're we're in that window of time where this is coming down like crazy. And now they'll hold uf both thaying, well, we're not alone in the universe. Excuse me, you don't know that that's conjecture on your part. You know Enrico Fermi, the physicist, this is credited to him. At lunch time, you know, you were talking about life in the universe, and you know, and Rika Firmi just basically said, Okay, presis elsewhere? Where is everybody? And he's right. You know, if we're. Surrounded by all these galaxies and everybody's inhabited, there's life all over the planet, where the heck is everybody? And we don't know? And there's this cot and mouse game with these guys. We see them now, we don't. We see them now, we don't. We see them now, we don't. And in the film Day of Disclosure, they talked about deliberate crashes. We went to the Roswell debriefield and we pulled out a piece of the metal with metal was Yeah, it was buried about eight inches below a surface. We are the only film company in history ever to show on film. According to Chuck Sakowski, who was there with the Medal of Tech or two. Frank Kimber And thanks Frank. We're the only film company ever to pull out the piece of metal. We've looked at it under a scanning electron microscope. It's an illuminum alloy, but it doesn't fit any known illuminum alloys. It's right in between these two. And we had three pieces of metal tests into three different labs. They all have the same thing, but we don't know what it is. It's right between these two known aluminum alaies, but we don't know what it is. Some more testing needs to be done. But isn't that interesting? Not a weather balloon, Not a weather balloon by any means. And in the Spielberg's film, he's going to show that he's going to drill right down. To it interesting. Have you ever seen the show Childhood's End? Oh? Yeah, absolutely, yeah. I feel like that's what's what's about to come upon us this. I think they probably picked the greatest I guess, uh movie or theater venue that they could they could pick to show us what that great deception could look like. Look, it's coming down and we can reveal all this stuff as much as we want. And I wrote about this in the book Runs a disclosure once again, Helemarzoli dot commer It's available on Amazon too. But the bottom line is this, there's going to be a nuclear event. This is conjecture. On my part, I'm out of profit. This is conjecture. There's going to be a nuclear event that happens somewhere on the planet which creates the greatest climate of fear that humanity has ever experienced. Collectively. That's when they show up. They will tell us we created all life on this planet. We genetically manipulated early man. We started the world's religions and civilizations. Now at this critical junction, we are back to usher mankind into a golden age. And that's great. That's a great pause, La, because we've got a hard break real quick. 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Look especially for the NRBTV audience, I know on the resident conspiracy theorist, Like my program is unlike anything else on the network. If you like that, if you want to see us continue there, Hey, hit the donate button for us. With that, let's go back to Lamar Zuli. Just an incredible interview that we're having here talking about the alien disclosure, this coming deception upon us. I had just brought up the movie Prometheus. I love la that you were talking about how they use film to show us their plan because they have that satanic code about them. But for metheus was exactly that, exactly what you were talking about as we hit the brake. Yeah, and you know I went and saw that movie because part I have to do that. I mean, it's part of what I do to see what the other side of the eisle was promulgating. And I mean, there it is. It showed, It showed in the very beginning of the film. You know, the entity dissolves in the water and all that DNA creates life on this planet. You know, this is what the whole Darwinian theory is based on. When Ben Stein on his classic movie Expelled, If you haven't seen that it's a must watch. He sits down with Richard Dawkins. Well, Dawkins is one of the premale evolutionists of a twenty twenty first century. And Stein goes, okay, well, where did this come from? Where did the first self replicating molecule come from? And Dawkins has no answer. I told you nobody knows. And he's kind of upset by that because it's a gotcha question. And okay, so nobody knows. Well. Then then Stein, in. A very gracious way, in my opinion, throws him in intellet actual life level, how do you think it might have happened? And Dawkins immediately, well, I suppose it could have happened like this, and he and this is circular reasoning. He talks about, you know, somewhere in the universe, a race of entities, by some Darwinian process, you know, achieved a very high level of civilization and seated us here. That's called paspermia. And that is what we are looking at. That is the great lie, because Darwinism is a mindless the whole theory of evolution is utterly mindless. We know, like, for instance, a friend of mine, one. Of the guys over at Charisma Media John Manarat. So his wife is pregnant and they just did their first ultra sound right, so they see the baby in the hearts beating boom boom boom. Just explain that to me. Just explain how that works. Just explain how a mindless thing like evolution creates a heart well in order to make this blood. Wait, wait a minute, what's blood? I don't know. I'm just evolution. I'm just mindless and can't really think about anything, and this is just evolving by his sult. But we're gonna need something to pump the blood through the circulature. Oh wait, circulatory system? What's that? Oh? I have no idea, but we're still gonna. Need this pump. Where the heck does the heart come from? Are you kidding me? Are you flipping kidding me? Stop lying to yourself and be intellectually honest. You don't know. Nobody knows how the heart works. Nobody, we just knows it works. Guess what. There's a god. Guess what he spoke everything in new existence? Guess what he's coming back that myself? Hold lay, you're such a religious fanatic. No, I'm not not religious at all. I just know who my creator is, and I believe in the beginning was the word. The word was with God, and the world was gone God in the beginning. All things are made by Him or without. It was not anything made that was made. End the story. Darwinism is a complete and utter broke fallacy of a paradigm. You can believe that all you want, but then when we show you something like this, it blows your paradigm right out of the water. Shroud of turn. So how is this done? And this is what people saw it for thousands of years in tour in Italy. Well, there looks like an image of a man. Eighteen ninety We have a whole film on this, by the way, eighteen ninety eight's it couldn't. Beer takes the first picture of the shroud, and this is what he sees. Now, you tell me, you tell me how you create this image on the shroud. You just tell me that it looks like this. But which wasn't invented two thousand years ago? And if it's a medieval forgery, right, so it still wasn't invented. So let me get this. This medieval forgery knew about he had a time travel device and he could go into the future, and he knew that someday they would create photography, and so he cryptically put this image in the shroud. No, this is God's calling card. It's never been duplicated. And there's the man on the shroud. Look at the scourging. It's incredibly brutal. Look where the nails come out the back of the wrists, right, So it's just look at this and look at the face. Look at the face. That's him, that is absolutely him. Amen. Yeah, that's what. I have a whole film on this, we call it. We call it Holy Shroud, Holy Fire. So I mean Darwinism is what a broke what a what a broke paradigm? Well, it takes it takes more faith to believe in evolution than it does for us to believe in Christianity and what God actually said. And the question, as as you alluded to, is the problem with panspermia is they never answer where did they come from? And and well it's some other higher entity created them. Well where did they come from? Where are thinking from? We don't know. It's crazy. Now I'm so glad that you brought up the shrouded term, because. Where are the ignoramuses. Yeah, we're the educated ignoramas who don't know anything about science. You can't. You don't know how DNA works. Nobody knows where that comes from. That genetic code is so so explicit, so incredible, and it just didn't come out of some primordial slime someplace. There's a creator, okay, and we know that Jesus spoke everything into existence, So believe what you want to believe. Yeah, no, absolutely, Yeah. So I was saying, I'm glad you brought up, you know, the history of the Shroud returned, but I wanted to ask you about something else that you've done, actually two movies on and this is the miracle, yet you're holding up already Fatima. Now, I'm not trying to offend Catholics. I'm not one of these Christians who thinks Catholics are all going to Hell. I've always said that on this show. I know a lot of great Catholics that love Jesus. But this miracle may not be exactly what they said it was, right, sir. Yeah, absolutely. I've been a student of fatom of for decades and we went to Fatima, Portugal at the hundred year anniversary in twenty seventeen, and we were there. We had and you know, if a lord just opened up the door. We were there with our guide, Francisco Carrera, and Francisco is head of Exel politics in Portugal, so he was in contact with everybody like jee Kim Fernandez, who wrote three books with the late Fina Diermata. We had a list of people all who has study this phenomenon. And so for people who don't understand it, it's nineteen seventeen. World War One is raging, the Bolshevik Revolution has happened. There are really no airplanes in Portugal. There might be one down in Lisbon, but we don't even know that. And you know, the war is raging. It's a very tenuous, unprecedented time. So these group and this is never talked about in the official narrative. I mean, I've got cod of tow with people that you know, priests and other stuff on Fatima and I say, well, you were aware that a group of psychics got together in nineteen seventeen and through the technique of automatic writing. And I've seen the actual the paper with the automatic writing. It's backwards. You can only see it holding up to a mirror, and it's signed Stella Matutina, and that message says there's be something wondering, wondrous happening on May thirteenth, nineteen seventeen. Something wondrous will happen to the people. It's signed Stella Montutina the right way. And of course that's the bright Morning Star Ano her name for the dragon you satan. So May thirteenth happens, and these three shepherds, shepherds are out tending the sheep. Lucia who's who's ten, Francisco is nine and just into seven. These are illiterate, very small kids, very illiterate, very illiterate. They can't read it right. And they see this apparition. It's a lady and she's dressed in a skirt which falls right below the knees. Well, everyone in nineteen seventeen. They had skirts that came all the way down to the tops of their shoes, or even even further. I mean, they were dresses that went all the way down. Women didn't appear like this prostitutes maybe, so to think that this entity as marry the Bible wearing a short skirt like us, of course you never hear anything about that all that's pushed down. Then they ask her, well, where do you come from? She never says heaven, she says from the sky. How do we know this? Because the handwritten testimonies are all done by the parish priest, father Fierira. So when the girls Lucia and Francisco with the children, should say Lucia Francisco, and you sit there are telling the parish priest, father Fiira, where did this entity say she was from from the sky, never from heaven? How did the. Endity commute with you? Communicate with you telepathically? Angels and Mary do not need voice to skull. They can speak and you can hear them. Right, that's how Just read your Bible. That's the way it works. And so. That's in May. So you have June, July, August. The kids are in jail because this whole thing is blown up. People don't like it. September, the apparition appears again. People are seeing get this, People are seeing flying hats in the sky, weird. Anomalous weather patterns. And so the magistrate and the priest and all these other people, look, we need to sign. If this is really from the Virgin Mary, we need to sign. And so the kids on September thirteenth, go back and ask the entity for a sign. She says there'll be a sign on October thirteenth, following month. So a month passes, and she says twelve noon, but twelve noon happens and nothing happens. So now it's one o'clock, so the entity is late. Just say it right, it's been raining all morning. There is a sea of umbrellas that you can see here. I think it's a lot of glare that I'm trying to get it so you can see it. There's the sea of umbrellas. There is the King's photographer Joshua Binolio. Remember Portugal is a monarchy. In nineteen seventeen, there was a they overthrew the monarchy. It became. So the kings photographer Joshua Binoio is out there with the old box cameras right the glass plates. He takes twelve twelve photographs of the event. And there was a professor of semiotics, his name is Jose Machado, who had access to all twelve glass plates, and I've interviewed him. He's in our film Strange Phenomena. And he let us use this is the original original still photographer still photographs from October thirteenth, nineteen seventeen, taken by Joshua Binoio. What do you see here? Yeah, what do you see there? I see a UFO. That's exactly what it is, and it's it's it's in we we we held Jose's feet to the fire. Could this be a chemical burns in a scratch? Jose says, no, whatever this is, whatever this disc like object is, it's in the sky, it's in the photograph. So we we published that. It's in our film. And you know, people don't like to hear that because they want to believe it's marrying the Bible. And that's why in the film itself we open the film. We're not going to disparage. People can believe what they want to believe. Millions of people come to Fatima every year. Millions of people circle the cobblestone in Mecca, millions of Buddhists and Hindus, you know, pray to their gods. Believe what you want to believe. But we also have a right to push back and dig into whatever happened in nineteen seventeen, and that's what we did, and that's why we published a photograph, and then we've got the witnesses who look up and say this, I looked up and saw a. Dull silver disc. Well, what does that sound like to you? And in nineteen seventeen, there's no UFO UAP flying saucer in the lexicon. That doesn't come to mid twentieth century. So this was a UFO event. It's big business in Fatima, big business. That sanctuary. We can hold upwards of a million people. I mean, it's absolutely unbelievable. And we show all this exactly what it looks like, and we interviewed what we believe are some of the world's experts that have actually done the homework and gone back and looked at the handwritten diary or not diary, the handwritten reporting from father Frierra. So he's interviewing the witnesses, he's interviewing the children and writing it all down. It's a completely different narrative than what we see. It was, in my opinion, a UFO event, and that's why we call the film a Harbinger of Deception. So I just get I know we're getting close to the end. I mean, I've been doing this for like over thirty years. I've got books. We've got films. You have thirty four films, fifteen books and it's all you know. We've got the ten box DVD set here. Ten films on UFOs, Close Encounters of the first, second, third, fourth, fifth, kind Abductions, Codamutilations, crop circles, two films on Roswell. Finally what is the Truth? We sit down with guys like George Norrie, the late Nick Pope is in the film, Mando Gonzalez, Gary Steerman, others weighing in on. And by the way, this is the Kemberg as UFO right there. See that? Yeah, that's the best. That's the best UFO footage in my opinion, that you'll ever see. And you can see the entities right inside them. Those are the two graves. Wow, there it is as. UFO, absolutely incredible. What I want to do is as we as we come to a close on this show and I and I will plug the website as well. But the last time I had the opportunity to interview you, we were talking about Christians who have had UFO or alien encounters, and you gave some advice that I just want to I want to echo again because I don't want people to live in a spirit of fear. Uh, there's a there's a great possibility. In fact, I think it's around the corner that we do have aliens. The whole world is their eyes are open to the fact that there are aliens out there. But you've you've interviewed so many Christians who have had alien encounters and they've been able to rebuke it in Jesus's name, and they've been say if will you tell that story to the audience. Well, Karl Wilkinson, we published her book, Stolen Ced Evil Harvest, and you know she was a lifelong abductee. She was taken from five years old and she was impregnated by them three times. Daniel Daniel two forty three. There seeming will to see the men be like the days of No they're walking amongst us. The book by doctor David Jacobs. I'm not making the stuff. Up, and it's not Look some of this we've got an hour and you know we've had forty five minutes or whatever. This is all the deep end of the pool. It's the deep end of the pool. It's the breeding program, it's the seed war, and we see it over and over again. So I'm about to interview a woman in about It's ten o'clock here. In two hours, I will interview her. She's a videographer, she's an artist. She sent me a picture. She was taken. She was a Christian from the time she was a young girl. She was taken by them against her will. And you know, these these abductions happened for a period of time and then she finally broke them off. So in most cases, if a person cries out to Jesus, it will stop the abduction. But now we and this is why it's the research is ongoing. This is new information that just came to me. And I'll be interviewing this woman in about two hours. Very unsettling. She's been a Christian since she was a little girl. But she was taken. So it's not just this you know, magic formula, like for instance, when we when the elders lay hands on people that are sick, do they recover? Not in all cases? Why is that? So it's you know, we. Need to take the whole counsel of God, hold onto our dogma lightly and be flexible, be flexible, not not in the things that matter, like my. Salvation comes from Jesus. And the story I mean, if a fallen angel shows up, you know, as an angel of light and tells me, well, I'm I'm a source of giral salvation. Excuse me, get behind me. I know I love that. Yes, one of the other things. You know, we just we're just not sure and we have to hold on of them loosely. Sure, but I do appreciate you sharing that with the audience. And just once again, ladies and gentlemen, if you're not right with God right now, like it is the time to be right with God. And as La just said, uh, there will be entities. There will be fallen angels that come as an angel of light that will say things that sound realistic. And how do you not believe your eyes? Like the aliens are upon us. You know, we're not alone in this world and they're saying they created us. Remember, ladies and gentlemen, whole firm to the Bible. La. I'm gonna plug the website lamarzuli dot com. And for any of any of you who are having in trouble with Italian names, m A R z U L l I right there, but Lamorzooli dot com, LA tell us last words here plug the website anything else you want to convey to the audience. Well, I think this thing is coming down. And again, you know, First Timothy, chapter four of Us Birder especially says the latter days some will depart from the faith, giving heat to seducing spirits of the doctors of Damon's. This is exactly where we are. It's exactly where we are. We need to understand that this is not the monic delusion. It is nuts and bolts, hardware. There's a physicality to it all day long. Elimarzuli dot com, thanks for watching. I do a show every single day on YouTube and we're all over this like white on Rice. Thanks for having me on. Appreciate it absolutely. It's been an incredible pleasure to have you on. I always will have you back. Love the conversation. But I'm gonna go yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and close us out. If you hold on one more minute post production and sayah, goodbyes. I appreciate it. But again, thank you for your work, thank you for your time. Thank you God, bless God, bless you too. Sir. All right, ladies and gentlemen, there you go. La Marzouli. I know some people this might as La said, this is the deep end, like you literally can evolve into the deep end. But this is a conversation that we need to be having. That we can't be fearful love and then we can't dismiss automatically just because it goes against our preconceived norms. Ladies and gentlemen, Aliens are coming and we got to be ready. 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