Floods, Floods, and More Floods

[00:00:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to the Changing Earth Podcast with author Sarah F Hathaway and co-host

[00:00:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Chen Gibson. Blending survival fiction and fact to bring you entertaining education that

[00:00:18] [SPEAKER_00]: will help you dream, survive, and thrive. And now here's your hosts Sarah F Hathaway

[00:00:25] [SPEAKER_00]: and Chen Gibson.

[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_08]: Hello and welcome back to the Changing Earth Podcast. This is episode number 461. Sorry

[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_08]: guys no live show tonight. And I won't have any Changing Earth news on this show either.

[00:00:41] [SPEAKER_08]: I really encourage you to keep your eyes wide open because there are a lot of volcanoes

[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_08]: that are erupting right now. There's a lot of global flooding going on right now. So

[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_08]: keep your eyes wide open, stay prepared, stay vigilant and make sure you're paying attention

[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_08]: to what's going on in our planet as well as what's going on with our societies. Today's

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_08]: show is going to be a great show. I've put together some of my best flooding interviews

[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_08]: that I've done. I've got Ken Jensen here. I've got the interview with James Yeager

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_08]: lined up and then a really great one that Chen and I did in regards to how do you clean

[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_08]: up and stuff like that after a flood. And because we're having so much flooding on

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_08]: our planet and so much of threat of that happening and just, you know, situation

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_08]: where you could actually be in the flood zone and needing to know how to clean

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_08]: up afterwards and take care of this, I thought it'd be a great show to put together.

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm really excited about it. So stick around, stay tuned and enjoy all the information

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_08]: you're going to get flooded with.

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_08]: Back again with my good friend Ken Jensen. He is the host of the Prepper podcast and

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_08]: he is going to help us out today with getting us ready in case we live in a flood

[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_08]: area. So thanks very much for being back with me, Ken.

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for having me back.

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_08]: So what's three to five ways that people can prepare their home for a flood if they

[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_08]: live in a flood prone area?

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Number one is don't move to a flood area.

[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, people of Sacramento that and you know what I'm joking, but I'm serious as

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, you don't want to have to deal with the flood.

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Well then don't move to a flood zone.

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_01]: It's that freaking simple.

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_01]: The next thing is if you happen to move to a flood zone, get your butt some flood

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_01]: insurance. That's number two.

[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. All right.

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And and all these preppers are like, well, I know that crap.

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the same old same old.

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_08]: They need to really look into their flood insurance though as well, because

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_08]: flood insurance has many.

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_08]: I used to sell insurance, so flood insurance has a lot of different aspects

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_08]: than your traditional home insurance.

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_08]: And it usually boils down to not as much as covered.

[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_08]: So they need to check that out and make sure that they're going to be covered

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_08]: for the groundwater movement and things like that.

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, right. So get your flood insurance and check it.

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead and call Sarah at home at three in the morning and ask questions

[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_07]: about flood insurance.

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_07]: Definitely not. Definitely not.

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And the next thing you need to do is have a household inventory.

[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_01]: You need to have written and visual inventory of the personal property that

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_01]: you have in your household, things like major appliances, electronics,

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_01]: jewelry and artwork.

[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the stuff that you'd be surprised at how much clothing people

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_01]: have in their closets and how much shoes in itself is just worth.

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_01]: How many shoes do you have, Sarah?

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_08]: I got a couple of boxes of them in there.

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_08]: My husband makes me throw out two pair when I get one pair.

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_08]: So I'm not that many as I used to have.

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Smart man.

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Smart man.

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Now I have more shoes than any man should ever have.

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be honest here, but most of those are hunting boots and

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_01]: hiking shoes.

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And then I have specialty running shoes for long distance running.

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So I have quite a bit of money in my closet as well.

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And if you're going around and you're thinking about what do I have

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_01]: in my house, you're taking pictures of your, of your, uh, stoves

[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_01]: and your microwaves and your TVs.

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_09]: Collections.

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_09]: People have like stamp collections and stuff.

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Big stuff.

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_01]: The major stuff.

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And you forget that you've got like $2,000 worth of clothing right there

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_01]: in your closet.

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And if you get that, you know, you need to get that on there and then jewelry

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_01]: artwork and stuff like that.

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's a lot of jewelry that people have.

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of people have, you know, waste valuable money on expensive jewelry.

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, make sure that you get that documented as well.

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty important.

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_09]: Right.

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_09]: Firearms, things like that.

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, now after you're done documenting all this stuff, well, you need a place

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_01]: to put it and I am going to tick off everybody and say that one place that

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I put documentation of my stuff is in cloud storage storage.

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm not putting it on Google drive.

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not putting it on, uh, I'm not putting it on what's the

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_01]: other main cloud storage.

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't know.

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_09]: Uh, computer question for me.

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, no.

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm not putting it in the typical cloud storage.

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Dropbox.

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what it is.

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh right.

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_09]: Uh huh.

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I'm actually putting it on, um, a, a server, a remote server, kind of

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_01]: like what I do with my websites and stuff like that, you know, that's

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_01]: my lifeblood is my website.

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's a business of mine.

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to protect it.

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm not going to put my personal information on something with a public

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_01]: H, you know, with a public URL that can easily be sniffed out by hackers

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_01]: and stuff like that, but if I get a dedicated server and I'm paying a

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_01]: monthly fee on this dedicated server, I can keep my important stuff

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_01]: like that on a cloud device.

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And that way, if you're stuck in a flood or in a fire or something

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_01]: like that, well, then you have the ability to retrieve that from another

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_01]: location.

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_01]: So not only do you have that, but then you've got the digital copies on

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_01]: your own computer, that kind of thing.

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_08]: Right?

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_08]: You could always put like a, uh, external hard drive.

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_08]: You could keep it at your buddy's house in another town or, or

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_08]: something like that flash drive.

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_08]: That's somebody else's house kind of thing as well.

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you could do that.

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And if you are smart about it, if you're a nerdy enough, like I am,

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_01]: you would probably set up something where you are automatically going to

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_01]: back up your hard drive to that external drive through the cloud.

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyways.

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_09]: Right.

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay.

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, the, the better place to put this, the, the place that everybody

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_01]: can easily do is, uh, put all your copies in a waterproof fireproof safe.

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, you'll, you're going to want, not only are you going to want this

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_01]: documentation in the safe, but you're also going to want financial records

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_01]: in their insurance policies, uh, home deed and lease identification, money.

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Important memories.

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, um, you're, you're, you're gonna lose a lot of stuff.

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_09]: Marriage certificates.

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_01]: You'll lose a lot of stuff in a flood.

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And this doesn't guarantee anything, but what's really nice is if you have

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_01]: an in-ground safe, that's waterproof and fireproof, then the chances of a

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_01]: flood taking your safe off the foundation is not very likely.

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but you're going to want your contact list.

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to put your favorite survival books in there, evacuation

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_01]: maps, and, uh, put your camera in there with all the inventory copies.

[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_01]: The camera that you took for your inventory, put that in there because

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_01]: after a flood comes through, after a fire comes through something like that,

[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_01]: you can get in there and your camera has a good chance of still being in

[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_01]: good condition and now you can go around and document everything

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_01]: while it's there and fresh.

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_09]: After.

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_01]: So that was number four.

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Number five is prepare your home.

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Preparing your home.

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Now I'm talking things like basements.

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_01]: In your basement, you got a sump pump, have a battery operated backup.

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_01]: You need your sump pumps running to keep the water out because

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_01]: not all floods are landslides, right?

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Most floods are just basically that it's standing water.

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So if you have a sump pump, you can keep most of that water out,

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_01]: especially if you have a basement, that is the perfect place for a sump pump.

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, get yourself a water alarm.

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_01]: If you have a basement, you need a water alarm, plain and simple.

[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And all it is a little switch.

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And when the water touches it, it's going to alarm upstairs and you're

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_01]: going to know to go downstairs and check it out and see why your sump pump

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_01]: is not working and why your battery operated backup sump pump is not

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_01]: operating and, uh, you may just go out there with a manual pump

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_01]: and continue to pump away.

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Or you can tell your teenage kid to get his butt down.

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_01]: He's been motion off of you for 17 years.

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_01]: The next thing that you want to do is keep your gutters clean.

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, you know, if you don't keep your gutters clean, the water

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_01]: goes where you don't want it to go.

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And I actually kind of had a run in with this.

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm ashamed to say I had a run in with this.

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_01]: We had a real bad storm and one of my gutters, I didn't realize was

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_01]: stopped up and it all was coming down onto my siding into my window

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_01]: ceiling, kind of mess some stuff up.

[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_08]: Mm-hmm.

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_08]: Bad can.

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_08]: We had one, uh, so full of acorns and stuff.

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_08]: Once the water got into it actually was pulling it off of the house.

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_09]: It was like, Whoa, gotta get that under control.

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_09]: So the whole, yeah, pulling the whole gutter off.

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, mine actually leaked through my window into the house.

[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh man.

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_01]: It was bad.

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It was real bad.

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but that's good on insurance.

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_09]: You can still claim that on insurance though, cause at least

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_09]: it's not like a groundwater movement.

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Ah, but you better clean your gutter out first.

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise they're going to tell you.

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_09]: Fair enough.

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_09]: Maintenance was slacking.

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, they would.

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_09]: Fair enough.

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Definitely do that unless you have a friend that works for them.

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Make sure that you have a friend that works for a good insurance.

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_09]: Then you're all set.

[00:11:42] Right.

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_01]: You go.

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, the next thing is electrical devices, receptacles,

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_01]: switches, socket circuit breakers, that kind of thing have to be 12 inches

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_01]: above your projected wood, your, your, your projected floodplain.

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_01]: So if you're in a flood zone, you are supposed to know about how high

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_01]: that water will typically rise if you have a basic flood.

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, stay at least 12 inches above that because normal doesn't normally happen.

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Normal is not really normal.

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_01]: That's an average, which means you get lower and higher.

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_01]: So at least be a foot above that number.

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you can install backflow check valves in your piping because

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_01]: if you're in a flooded area, you should know that, uh, water is going to

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_01]: settle in the lowest place that it can go.

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_01]: So when you're upstairs and you flush your toilet, it's going to end up in

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_01]: your teenage daughter's bathtub while she's taking a shower.

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it's nasty.

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_09]: So you have that happen in Michigan.

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_01]: So you can put these backflow check valves in your piping.

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, that'll, that'll keep the water from going the direction it's not supposed to.

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, this was, uh, they put the backflow on the line, like down the neighborhood.

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_08]: So every time anybody in the neighborhood flushed, it was coming into our

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_08]: basement, which was awesome.

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So sounds wonderful.

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_01]: My parents, how many gallons of iodine and, uh, betadine did you purchase so

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_01]: you could just drown your entire floor with it?

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh man, I don't know.

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_08]: I was pretty young when it happened.

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_08]: We were also severely ill with the flu at the time.

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_08]: So my mom was, yeah, my mom was basically bucketing sewage out of the

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_08]: basement while she was taking care of, uh, you know, all of us all sick.

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm puking all over the place upstairs.

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_08]: So it, I'm sure it's one of her fondest memories, you know?

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm telling you what, no matter what she did the rest of her life,

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_01]: that's a wonderful woman.

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Exactly.

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So you can, uh, in your home, you can also, yeah, consider turning off,

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, you need to consider turning off all your utilities if the

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_01]: water gets in there because, you know, electrical things and gas things

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_01]: don't really work too well with flood stuff, so don't mix electrical

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_01]: and water, just shut it off.

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_08]: Be familiar with how to do that before you're faced with that situation.

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And I would recommend having some material on hand, be prepared

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_01]: for that flood to occur because you're in a floodplain because you

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_01]: didn't listen to number one and not move there.

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_09]: Um, sandbags, you know, you should probably have some sandbags.

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I do have that on there, but did you know that sandbags

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_01]: actually don't do all that well?

[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Sandbags don't really hold water back like people think it does.

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_01]: What does is the plastic sheeting that you're going

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_01]: to put in with your sandbags.

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_01]: So what you're going to do is like a pyramid style thing with your

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_01]: sandbags and you're only going to fill your sandbags halfway and you

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_01]: will have plastic go down kind of the middle of the pyramid and that

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_01]: plastic sheeting, this is going to be thick plastic, okay?

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Plastic sheeting in conjunction with your sandbags can reduce the amount

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_01]: of flooding that's going to happen in your area, but let's think about this.

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Most people are thinking sandbags.

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to sandbag your entire yard.

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_01]: No, you're not going to sandbag your entire yard.

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You dummy.

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to put sandbags around like your door

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_01]: entrances and stuff like that.

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, if you have like a brick house or something, then you're

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_01]: in luck because the water is not going to come into that as easily as it would.

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, if you had wood with siding and that kind of thing, a wood frame house,

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_01]: you put sandbags around the door to keep things from coming in because

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_01]: your house actually doesn't do too bad of a job of keeping the water back.

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Even though it does destroy the wall in the process, it's going

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_01]: to keep the damage to a minimum.

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's the benefit of the sandbags is you use plastic sheeting.

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a leak reduction around the windows and doors.

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And the other time that I would use sandbags is to redirect flood water movement.

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_01]: So if you know the flood water is coming by your home, you don't

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_01]: need to use this plastic sheeting.

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You can put your sandbags there to redirect it.

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, let's say 15 degrees is all you need to redirect

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_01]: it to keep it from coming into your yard and flooding you out.

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So your sandbags can be used to redirect at 15 degrees and it'll pass

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_01]: by your house and flood your neighbors.

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Perfect.

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know that pesky neighbor they were whining and complaining to the

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, they were always peeking over the fence anyway.

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, yeah.

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And there's a reason why you don't have chickens anymore.

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, flood them out.

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_08]: So we already talked about having our documents and everything ready to go.

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_08]: What else should we have personally ready to go in case we needed to,

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_08]: you know, in case we knew the flood was coming.

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_08]: We're going to leave our house.

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_08]: What should we have ready to go personally?

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_01]: OK.

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_01]: So you need to know when to leave.

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You need to know when to leave.

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And here's a hint before it floods.

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Follow any recommended or mandatory evacuation orders.

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Flooding is not a freaking joke.

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, so last year, 2015, I have preliminary stats here in 2015.

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_01]: A hundred fifty five people died fatalities.

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Due to flooding.

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_01]: That's that's.

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot more than lightning.

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Lightning was twenty seven tornadoes were thirty six hurricanes for 14 heat

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_01]: overheat forty five.

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Winter, everybody prepares for those blizzards coming through

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_01]: and they live in Texas, winter killed twenty eight people last year.

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_01]: The cold just in general, fifty two wind.

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, all those straight line winds that rip the tops off of houses.

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Six right rip currents.

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Fifty eight.

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_01]: But floods one hundred fifty five.

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_08]: Wow.

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So this is a big freaking do and you need to know when people going.

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't need to leave.

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_08]: This isn't going to happen.

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And they say exactly when they say, hey, mandatory evacuation, they say,

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_01]: hey, I live in freaking New Orleans and I can do whatever I want.

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to stay here.

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_06]: All right.

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's too soon for those jokes yet.

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_01]: So you need an evacuation kit, your evacuation kit.

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to need your bug out bags, you know, one per person.

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I would have your bug out vehicle kits.

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to go into the details and your bug out bags and bug out

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_01]: vehicle kits, because if you want to know about that stuff,

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_01]: number one, I think you may have already covered it, Sarah.

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Number two, if you haven't go to the prepper podcast because I sure as heck

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_01]: have covered it.

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I've got it on my website as well for download for a bug out bag.

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_08]: It's kind of the basics.

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So have your bug out bags, have your bug out vehicle kids.

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Now it's going to have waters and stuff like that.

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_01]: But I would say for your evacuation, have more drinking water.

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And you're going to want this drinking water to be in jugs and stuff.

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you don't want something that can be contaminated.

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Have first aid kits available and have maps of the area.

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, in waterproof laminate, you know, in a waterproof type

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_08]: seal to put your map in there so that it doesn't get all wet and then

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_08]: you can't use it.

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And you also are going to want to have sorry, there's a phone

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_01]: going off in the background.

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_01]: People don't know when to hang up.

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, this is real time podcasting right here.

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want you to edit that out.

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you need to plan evacuation routes and you need to practice those

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_01]: evacuations, you know, you need to be ready to move to higher ground.

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_01]: You need to know which routes are in flood areas in the ground

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_01]: elevation of those routes.

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_01]: You can, you need to know those roads night and day because guess what?

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Floods are going to remove signs and landmarks that you would typically use.

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So you need to know the roads without signs and landmarks.

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_01]: You need to know where you're going.

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_01]: You need a copy of emergency numbers by the phone, um, you know, so

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_01]: that you can call as you're leaving.

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_01]: You need to teach your children to do the exact same thing.

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And you need to have bug out locations available for you to go to.

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Now I was talking about knowing which routes are at what elevation, right?

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Man.

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_01]: A really easy way to do that is typically by using, um, using the

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_01]: U S, uh, topographic maps or even, even just using Google, you know, you can

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_01]: use Google their elevation map.

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Now to give you a good idea of what's, you know, what's at what elevation.

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_09]: The topographical maps are really nice.

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_09]: They're easy to read by, you know, it's not complicated and, uh, they

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_09]: give you a really good idea of where you need to go.

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, your bug out vehicle, your bug out vehicle.

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_01]: It could get in trouble, right?

[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're going to jump in your car.

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to walk.

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not going to wait for a flood.

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_01]: No, that's perfect time for a vehicle.

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_01]: So in there, I'm going to say that you need to have emergency

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_01]: life vests because vehicles, they get flooded, uh, and idiots like

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_01]: to drive across moving water.

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Have emergency life vests, have emergency SOS beacons and have an

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_01]: amateur radio because guess what?

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_01]: It's an emergency.

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not illegal right now, whether you have a license or not.

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_09]: Uh huh.

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, the other thing that might be a good idea is they make the

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_08]: flashlights that have the window breakers on them.

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, people die in their car because they can't open the door.

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_08]: So if you have one of those window breakers, it's a good thing to be

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_08]: able to help you out and get you out of that vehicle.

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_01]: That is a great idea.

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I actually have a big flood kit that, um, that has a lot of stuff in it.

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know if you want to go over that, but I do have a lot

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_01]: more items that I can tell you, but that was the flood kit that you

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_01]: should keep in your home, not in your, not ready to evacuate, but it

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_01]: has a lot of the same stuff because you're going to try to move your

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_01]: flood kit into your vehicle as you leave.

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_08]: Right.

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_08]: Wait, how, when you are driving, okay.

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_08]: So there's water across the road.

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_08]: How much water can you drive across safely?

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_01]: So the numbers are typically when driving a less than two feet of

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_01]: moving water can sweep you off the road.

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_09]: Wow.

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_09]: That's not very much.

[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's really not.

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and this we're, we're even talking big jacked up pickups and stuff

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_01]: that people think can go through anything, right?

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Two feet of water will move that truck right off the road as well.

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_08]: Because you create that layer between the rubber and the road

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_08]: of water, right?

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_08]: And then you're done.

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And you've got all that side, all that side force coming in at the

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_01]: tires from the water going around it.

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_09]: Right.

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, that makes sense.

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_08]: And then what about walking?

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, what, what's a, if you had to get out of your vehicle, you

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_08]: know, what's a safe up to what depends, I guess on your strength base, right?

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_01]: So safe walking.

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, I've seen some of the biggest baddest guys try to cross a

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_01]: river and they're the first ones to go down, so I'm not going to say

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_01]: strength has a whole lot to do with it as more technique, but walking in

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_01]: less than six inches of swift moving water can take you off your feet.

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And it can take you right down the river.

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_01]: But here's the thing.

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't know the depth of the freaking water before you start walking

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_01]: through it and before you start driving through it, so don't

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_01]: freaking cross the water.

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_01]: If you don't know the depth of it, don't cross it, turn around

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_01]: and go some other way.

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but you know, there is what, what if your route you chose to

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_01]: the highest route because you listened to Sarah Hathaway, uh, tell you that

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_01]: you needed to take your road on the highest route, but if you must cross.

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's not too wide for you to do it.

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You can follow a lot of the river crossing techniques that allow you

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_01]: to tie off and do other things.

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And you can probably get across, but you need to use proper techniques.

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Most river crossing techniques allow you to have like a backup in

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_01]: case your feet lose their placing.

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_09]: That makes sense.

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, the other thing I was thinking is maybe if you had your walking stick

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_08]: or something with you, you know, go test it out first before you just

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_08]: go, you know, blow in through that water.

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_08]: So, you know, give it a test and see maybe you could have a ring

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_08]: on your stack or whatever of how deep, you know, the water wet.

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_08]: So it's just an idea instead of just driving across it unknown.

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Putting a ring on your stick is, um, probably a good idea if you're

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_01]: wanting to walk across, um, because you could, you could just put that ahead

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_01]: of you and that's your six inch mark.

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And as you're walking across, as long as it doesn't go over

[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_01]: that ring, you're still good to go.

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and then you can, you know, if it, if it goes over six inches,

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_01]: you can't go far enough to tell how deep it is anymore because

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_01]: you don't need to go any further.

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So at this point, if it's six inches deep, you probably shouldn't drive across

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_01]: it because you really don't know how deep it is, but you can walk across it

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_01]: until you get to that six inch mark.

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_01]: You still gotta have a good wide stance because people can, you know,

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_01]: there there's the person that can get swept off and, you know, an inch

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_01]: of water because they're, you know, they, they trip over

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_01]: their own shoelaces all the time.

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_08]: And I don't think that size or strength really has any matter there.

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_08]: Some people that just bumble along anyhow.

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_08]: So, um, let's wrap it up.

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_08]: Uh, steps we should take, um, and then tips for getting, you know, to high

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_08]: ground safety is probably going to be mayhem.

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_08]: So, uh, you know, you already gave us a lot of really good pointers there

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_08]: as far as, uh, you know, knowing it by the back of your hand, because

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_08]: the signs are going to be out and things like that.

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_08]: So, um, let's just kind of wrap it up with the summary there of,

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_08]: you know, steps and, uh, any more tips you have for getting there safely.

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Step number one, listen to the radio and watch the news because it's a flood.

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not the end of the world.

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_01]: So guess what?

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_01]: The news and media are actually going to cover it.

[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Listen to weather radio alerts because now I'm be the first one to say that

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_01]: whether radios can get really annoying at times because every time an alert comes

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_01]: on it, fricking screams at you at the top of its lungs until you turn it off.

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And then a tornado shows up and you didn't have it on.

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_09]: That's Murphy's law right there for you too.

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, make any last minute evacuation preparations, depending on how much

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_01]: time you have then, you know, you, you may have time to make some last

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_01]: minute evacuation preps and do that before leaving, you know, that's like

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_01]: turning stuff off, that kind of thing.

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_09]: Your utilities want not.

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, go ahead and fill the sandbags or build, build walls for leak reduction

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_01]: with the plastic sheeting and stuff like that, um, elevate important items

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_01]: and furniture as high as possible.

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and if you're in a floodplain and you get to, you know, if you

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_01]: are in a floodplain and you get to a flood or flash flood warning, it's

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_01]: time to leave, not a watch, but if you have a warning in your area, then

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_01]: it's time to leave because you got to get out of there before it floods.

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause once it floods, you're stuck.

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Stay out of floodwater.

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Oftentimes it is extremely toxic.

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes.

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_09]: Yep.

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's, that's the basic steps I think that you should

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_01]: take in the event of a flood.

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_01]: It's more of like lessons learned and important things to keep in mind.

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but this is all stuff that you're going to do right before leaving.

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_09]: All right.

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, I think we're ready for, for the next flood that comes in.

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_08]: None of these listeners are going to be among those 155, I hope.

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that is unless they get, uh, unless they get stuck in the

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_01]: chaos of everybody else trying to get there, so get there first.

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_01]: First one to get there.

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_08]: No, your warnings get out.

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_08]: Don't waste time.

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_08]: You know,

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah, it's more important to know.

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_01]: It is more important to know which roads are elevated the highest than

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_01]: it is to know the roads that have the most traffic because if you are on

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_01]: the road with the most traffic, but it is higher than all the other roads,

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_01]: you're probably the most safe because you're out of the flood zone.

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, absolutely.

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_08]: Even if you are stuck in traffic, at least you're stuck up above where the flood is.

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, that makes sense.

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_01]: So for evacuation, I always use the three three three rule.

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you know what the three three three rule is or have you heard me say it before?

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_01]: No.

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_01]: So have three destinations and three different locations, you know, in three

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_01]: directions, I guess three destinations and three, in three directions and

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_01]: three routes of getting to that destination and have three rest stops

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_01]: along each route where if you get split up from somebody, you can find

[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_01]: them at the next rest stop.

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[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_03]: It's funny that this is the topic literally here two days ago.

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_03]: We had flash floods, like really, really bad flash floods.

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_03]: And so, um, uh, so, uh, I mean, I live in the Southeast.

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_03]: We get a lot of rain, uh, and, uh, flash flooding is a very common thing here.

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_03]: And, um, last year, about two years ago, uh, there was some bad flooding and

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_03]: some people actually drowned on the interstates around Nashville, Tennessee.

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_03]: And, uh, none of those people were from the South and I'm not trying

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_03]: to make fun of them, but if, uh, I know I have a lot of friends that

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_03]: are desert dwellers and they don't understand the concept of flash flooding

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_03]: and raining and like, like we do in the South and, uh, those people that

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_03]: got caught flat-footed so to speak, uh, and died in the drowning.

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_03]: So they weren't southerners.

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_03]: And, uh, and so it was almost a, um, there's almost a, um, you know, a,

[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_03]: uh, I don't know, localization for some of these disasters that happen.

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, but, uh, something we're very used to here.

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember what your question was, but I talked for a long time.

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_07]: I was talking about, uh, how long, you know, how fast can these

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_07]: situations escalate, how, you know, it goes from nothing to just

[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_07]: these flash flood situations.

[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, I mean, instantly, I mean, within, within minutes, I won't even

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_03]: say hours within minutes and at the same time can also recede within,

[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_03]: within minutes a road that was covered a half hour ago is not now or vice

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_03]: versa.

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a, it's a very, very fast acting.

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_08]: A lot of people think, you know, Oh, it hasn't been raining that long.

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_08]: It's not going to be a dangerous situation.

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_08]: It's just wrong.

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't, doesn't even have to be raining hard in your area.

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Could be up river that's sending all the water your way.

[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Yep.

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_08]: So what type of vehicle is best suited?

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_08]: If you got, you know, cars, trucks, a boat, listen, don't drop,

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_03]: don't drive through flowing water.

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't care what vehicle you have.

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_03]: If it, if there's water flowing across the highway, do not drive

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_03]: your vehicle through that water.

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_03]: It's that simple.

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_08]: Alternate route.

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_08]: That's why I always tell people, you know, you got to have so many routes

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_08]: mapped out of your place because you never know what's going to be cut off.

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_08]: What's going to be available to you.

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_08]: And so, you know, you know, you need those multiple routes.

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_03]: When you're, when you're rolling down the road, your tires have what's

[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_03]: called a contact patch that touches the road and it's about the, as big

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_03]: as a palm of your hand.

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_03]: So even this is why I like racing cars have really wide tires and

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_03]: things like that to have a bigger contact patch, but a regular car

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_03]: going down the road about about the size of your hand.

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_03]: And so if you imagine two, four hands on the road and swift water

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_03]: rushing across the road, how much, and now they're wet, how much

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_03]: friction could it possibly be, be having on that roadway as

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_03]: that water pushes it?

[00:34:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Not much.

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_08]: People are like, Oh, my tires are, you know, made for it or whatever.

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_06]: No.

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_08]: So how about like weight?

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, people are like, Oh, put sandbags in the back of my truck.

[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, weight that thing down and I'll be able to do better that way.

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_03]: There's a certain amount of physics involved with it.

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_03]: The heavier the vehicle is, you know, the harder it is, you know, the

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_03]: more energy it takes to push.

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_03]: But if you're emboldened because of that, you're going to go

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_03]: through even deeper water.

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_03]: So I think it probably negates the effect of the putting

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_03]: the weight in the vehicle.

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_08]: The overconfidence is a killer, right?

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_08]: No.

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah.

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_08]: So if you're forced to drive through this, like how fast, how fast

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_08]: she's not keeping up on it.

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm not, I'm not.

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Okay.

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_08]: You got to go through it.

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Now I would recommend a slow instead of fast, you drive fast, you

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_03]: start splashing water under your hood of your car and you, you, you

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_03]: might, uh, you might kill your car.

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Not, not from, you know, the actual water pushing it aside, but you

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_03]: might actually literally flood the engine with water.

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And, uh, that's why these, these vehicles that are made to Ford

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_03]: rivers and stuff have the big snorkels that come out of the top of them.

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_03]: So they can breathe if they get doused with water.

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_03]: But, uh, but, uh, I guess slow

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_08]: history does.

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_08]: History does a cool show on a truck night in America.

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_08]: And they have like, uh, you got to go through these huge

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_08]: waterways and stuff.

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_08]: And yeah, it's funny to watch the race car drivers think they can

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_08]: just ramp it through there.

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_03]: A slow, tall, heavy vehicle, I guess.

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, so are there steps that we can take?

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Like, uh, obviously you don't want to wrap your exhaust fan or your

[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_08]: exhaust pipe and cellophane or something, but is there anything

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_08]: that you'd recommend to protect your vehicle in that type of situation?

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't drive through flood water.

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I mean, it's, it's like, if you said, if you said, uh, James,

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, so I come home from work and I find my door's been kicked in.

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_03]: How should I clear my house?

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to tell you to call the police.

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_03]: You're going to hear, but what if, and I'm going to say you could,

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_03]: but you should call the police.

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the right answer here is not to drive through floodwater.

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_08]: Don't do it.

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, what about hazards?

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, cause there could be hazards up river, right?

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_08]: Coming down your way.

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_08]: So even if you think you can take it.

[00:37:01] Yeah.

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_03]: There's all kinds of stuff when it, when it floods here, you know,

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_03]: especially, uh, uh, trees that have fallen and stuff like that.

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Big trees and chunks of stuff.

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_03]: And, uh, no, thanks.

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_08]: So even if you have the snorkel, you're like, man, I'm going to do this.

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_08]: I got this.

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Like you should be aware.

[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_08]: There's like, yeah, things you can't control.

[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_03]: There's plenty of those videos.

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_03]: You can watch those guys trying to cross those rivers and their

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_03]: vehicle floating down the river.

[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_03]: You know?

[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, I don't think, I don't even think that's good enough.

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Not for me, especially I might do something stupid if I'm by myself,

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_03]: but if my wife or grandkids are in the vehicle, there's no way I would do that.

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_08]: Absolutely.

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_08]: That would really change the game.

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_08]: What about all your windows?

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_08]: So, so you're, you're the ding dong.

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_08]: That's all by yourself going through it.

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_08]: What if, what should you do with your window up or down?

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Your windows should always be all the way up or all the way down.

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_03]: They should never be halfway in between.

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_03]: It should either be fully up or fully down.

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_03]: And for this case, it should be fully up.

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_08]: Cause I was thinking like, okay, if you left it cracked at least, like,

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_08]: you know, you're not going to get like the suction, you know, how your

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_08]: door like won't open if you're in the water.

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_08]: So I was like, okay, well, at least if you had your window open a little

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_08]: bit, you're not going to get wet inside, but you might.

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like having a screen door in a submarine though.

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want the water coming in.

[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_08]: Right.

[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_08]: That's true.

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_08]: That's true.

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, how about a tool?

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_08]: Like what kind of tool do you keep a tool in your truck for something?

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_08]: Uh, if you had to bust the window or something like that?

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah.

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, there's a, there's a little tool called a rescue me that I keep in all

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_03]: my vehicles and it's a little bitty thing about the size of a big lighter

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_03]: that'll cut a seatbelt and pop a window.

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, but the key to it is you can pop a window with, with a rock or with a

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_03]: pistol, I don't even mean shooting it, but people, when they, when they try

[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_03]: to break a window, they try to hit the middle of it and then the window flexes.

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, if you need to break a window, break the corner, hit the corner

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_03]: of the window, there's the least amount of flex and it's most likely

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_03]: to break if you hit the harder part of the window, believe it or not.

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, then then the center.

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, that makes sense.

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_08]: And I would go center mass, right?

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_08]: Yep.

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody would.

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_03]: And I had people do it in class all the time with rifles when

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_03]: you're a vehicle taxi.

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_03]: So just say hit that window.

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_03]: They go boom with a rifle and it just skids right off the window.

[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_03]: You're going to hit the corner.

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Pow breaks.

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_08]: Wow.

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_08]: You think that was the, have you seen the new Tesla truck?

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_08]: Do you think that was the problem there?

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_08]: The ball test where they threw it.

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's all I think they had, I think they had a model up there and

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_03]: nobody told them not to do anything stupid.

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure there was somebody on a walkie talkie somewhere going, don't do that.

[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, right.

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Talk about looking like a jacket, Jack, everybody, but here we are

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_03]: talking about Tesla for free.

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, true.

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_08]: Fair enough.

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_03]: There's no such thing as bad advertisement.

[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_08]: Yep.

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_08]: So, um, the tool that you use can, you know, elderly people, young

[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_08]: people, people with no muscle structure.

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_08]: Can it still be done, you know, fairly easily for them if they're

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_08]: in that emergency situation?

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_03]: It's, it's a R E S big Q M E rescue me and it's there.

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_03]: They're 10 bucks or something on Amazon about as big as a lighter.

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I hang them on my, I got them.

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I have vehicle made kits.

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_03]: They're in all the med kits in case I go to a car and need to

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_03]: break a window, but they're hanging off the visors and things like that.

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Some people hang them off their key chains, but it's, it's really easy

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_03]: to use as a little spring loaded thing.

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Doesn't require any, no real muscle power other than be able to

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_03]: push it about a half inch go click.

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Cause I always worry about that, you know, uh, with tools and, and

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_08]: just self-defense and everything for the elderly cause they, you know,

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_08]: the get, you get older, they start feeling vulnerable and it's like,

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_08]: nah, you can still do this really easily.

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_08]: So I watched my mom turn from a little mighty mouse and, uh, you

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_08]: know, then she gets older.

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_08]: She's like, Oh, I can't do this.

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_08]: I can't do that.

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, come on, you know, you can still do it.

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_08]: You could still do it.

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_08]: So, um, so basically don't drive in the floodwater and then make sure

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_08]: that water stays off your engine.

[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, I did drive through an area where I shouldn't cause it's like

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_03]: the corner of my, we've all done stuff we should never do again.

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_08]: Yep.

[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_08]: I was like, that was probably a little deep bent my license

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_08]: plate out forward and everything.

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_08]: But I was getting home.

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_03]: So, um, the exact place.

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_03]: No, hold on a second.

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_03]: But I was getting home.

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm telling you like you got to watch that.

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Like what was so, what was so pressing?

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_03]: What was so pressing?

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_03]: That's the thing.

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody acts like their life can't be interrupted.

[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just kind of mess around with you, but everybody

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_03]: acts like they're like, what's a cop?

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm telling you there.

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_03]: There's any number of horrible things that have happened to people

[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_03]: because they couldn't, they couldn't wait 15 more minutes.

[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, that's true.

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_08]: I could have just gone into town, had a subway or something.

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_08]: Let the rain recede a little bit.

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Uh, fair enough.

[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_08]: I was going, I was going home.

[00:42:18] So,

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_04]: all right.

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I live in a, I live in South Carolina and we had, we have the

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_04]: hurricanes and floods and everything.

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_04]: And we had prison guards evacuating prisoners in a van and they got into

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_04]: the floodwater thought they could get through, couldn't get through.

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_04]: They ditched the prisoners died.

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Cause they drowned in the flood and now they're going to jail.

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_04]: That just happened.

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Yep.

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_04]: This last hurricane season.

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, that's crazy.

[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_08]: I didn't even hear that.

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_08]: That's nuts.

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_08]: That's nuts.

[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_03]: That kind of stuff happens all the time.

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_08]: So any good flood stories from, from anything in your past that you've seen

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_08]: that you're like, no, you're just a moron.

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Just, you know, just when I was a cop, just going to help people

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_03]: that thought they could make it.

[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_03]: They had to get home, you know, they had to add something.

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_03]: They had something better.

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't have time to wait, you know?

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_03]: And, and, and, and I'm sure in any natural disaster that there are those

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_03]: people that just exacerbate the problem because they are so self important

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_03]: that they can't be troubled with waiting in line for gas or something like that.

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure, I'm sure it's in a, in a, in a, you know, a more long-term disaster.

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, that, that kind of stuff, uh, ruins a lot of people.

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_08]: Yep.

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_08]: Be smart.

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_08]: Don't do it.

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_08]: Alrighty.

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_08]: So that pretty much wraps up our flood driving, uh, episode.

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Because don't do it.

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_08]: It doesn't matter.

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_08]: So my book, I have the guy there like they come to this big river and

[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_08]: they like build a bridge, you know, to get across it.

[00:44:01] [SPEAKER_08]: They're like throwing stuff into the water so that they can drive across

[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_08]: it and I'm like, I don't know how that would really work out.

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't think that really would work out because now you just

[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_08]: got more debris building more water.

[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I've seen four wheel drive people throw stuff, rocks and

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_03]: stuff into, into things and drive across it.

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I've seen that work like maybe not great, but it worked.

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_08]: But they got across.

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, how about checking the depth?

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_08]: Like, um, any, you know, uh, just have your walk and

[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_08]: stick with you or what, you know?

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Here's the thing.

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Like still water, like one that's not moving is not very

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_03]: dangerous other than you might just kill your car.

[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_03]: It's the flowing water.

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_03]: That's the problem.

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_03]: And so that, so the depth would only matter is if you're trying

[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_03]: to cross a patch of, of still water.

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, fair enough.

[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_08]: And if it's flowing, you don't want to walk out there and check it.

[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_08]: You're just as vulnerable as your vehicle is.

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_03]: That's that's what the snorkels are for.

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_03]: It's still water.

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_08]: I've seen them even rerouted.

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_08]: So I wrote that into my book that they rerouted the exhaust

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_08]: into the cab, you know, and that way you can go through like water.

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_08]: Volcano.

[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, not the exhaust, the intake.

[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_04]: The intake.

[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Tired on that trip.

[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_04]: The old banana in the tailpipe trick.

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_08]: The banana, the tailpipe.

[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_08]: That's old school.

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_08]: So let me just go ahead and give you a chance to give me your spiel

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_08]: on where to find you.

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_03]: If they are too stupid to find me, they don't deserve to train with me.

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_09]: Alrighty, sir.

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_09]: Thank you so much.

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_09]: Appreciate it.

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, sir.

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Anytime.

[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_10]: To pay me in your path back to stability.

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_08]: Today's show we had Erica.

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_08]: She is navigating the floodwaters.

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_08]: That was a scenario I wrote about the dam system above Sacramento failing.

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Damn system.

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, that damn system up above.

[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_08]: And then the scarier thing though, that's that I want you to think about

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_08]: that I've been studying a lot about lately.

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_08]: The Mississippi is controlled by a series of dams.

[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_08]: I think it's five to nine dams.

[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_08]: I can't remember the exact number because the Mississippi flows off the

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_08]: Missouri river and many of these dam structures are very old and they were

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_08]: built for a forecasted 100 year flood back when they were built, right?

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_08]: And they never even imagined like the amount of rain that we would be

[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_08]: picking up just instantaneously.

[00:47:00] [SPEAKER_08]: And if the top one breaks, you have catastrophic failure down the line.

[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_08]: We are looking at a flooding of the whole central United States.

[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_08]: This would be definitely a worst case scenario obviously, but the

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_08]: potential is there if we don't really start looking into investing back

[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_08]: into some of our infrastructure, not just collecting money with a

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_08]: bill called that and then not really doing it.

[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know when that's happened recently, but you know, for example.

[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_08]: So just saying these things are happening more and more.

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_08]: These catastrophic flooding scenarios are not really a hundred a year

[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_08]: events anymore.

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_08]: It's a reality we need to start really thinking about.

[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_08]: But in light of that, we were going to talk today about preparing for

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_08]: flooding, what you can do to kind of be ready for it and how you can

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_08]: clean up once the devastation happens and the flood waters recede.

[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_08]: So let's get into it.

[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_08]: First thing that I would do is look at a geographical analysis of your area.

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_08]: Is your house sitting in an area that has the potential to get flooded?

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, if that big rain comes in, are you in danger?

[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_08]: If that's the case, then you need to have an even faster evacuation plan.

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, you can't just sit back and be like, oh, you know, it won't happen to

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_08]: me because I guarantee everybody thinks that.

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_04]: And think about, you know, water runs downhill, right?

[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_04]: So if there's heavy rains a couple of towns above you, that might be

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_04]: coming your way in a day or so, right?

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_08]: Right.

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_08]: And watching even the weather forecasts on, you know, where those heavy

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_08]: storms are moving through things like that and how the water is going

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_04]: to run off of that area where it's going to go.

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_08]: So if this is coming your way, how much time do you really have?

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, again, like you said, Chen, when the hurricane's approaching,

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_08]: you need to have a line in your brain so you're not making an

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_08]: emotional decision on the fly.

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_08]: You got to have some kind of a preset standard so that you can go,

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_08]: oh, it hit my line.

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_08]: We're gone.

[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_08]: Even though, you know, better to be safe than sorry.

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_08]: Will water compromise your home stability?

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_08]: I've been seeing this a lot where walls, exterior walls are actually

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_08]: coming down, where things are slipping off their foundations, you know.

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_08]: Is that going to happen to your house?

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_08]: You don't want to be in it when it does, you know, better to save

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_08]: your family's life than your home.

[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_08]: You're not going to be able to do anything anyway.

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_08]: One of the things that happened up in Canada also is that the

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_08]: sewage treatment plant was compromised.

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_04]: So the flood water.

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's go play in the road.

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_08]: So we're going to talk a little bit more about the quality of that water,

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_08]: but are there chemical production facilities around you?

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_08]: Is that a potential hazard?

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_08]: Is there a dam up above you?

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_08]: If there is, you need to be ready to go like quickly,

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_08]: especially, you know, look at the Missouri system and how long

[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_08]: that would take to hit you.

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, that Mississippi system, if you're in that danger area.

[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_08]: When the floods happen.

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_08]: I talk a lot about in my book about the toxic waters and people are like,

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_08]: well, how Sarah, how did the waters become toxic?

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_08]: You know what?

[00:50:27] [SPEAKER_08]: What kind of happened there?

[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, this is based off a research that I did of if the dam system

[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_08]: did fail in Sacramento, what would happen?

[00:50:36] [SPEAKER_08]: And because of all the fertilizers, pesticides, the city chemicals,

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_08]: the gas, the oils, all of that stuff, all of the city waste,

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_08]: the garbage, the grime, you mix that all together in this big slurry

[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_08]: and then it soaks into the ground.

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_08]: It would be equal to like a nuclear disaster in terms of making that land

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_08]: unusable for farming in the future.

[00:50:58] [SPEAKER_08]: And it's definitely not something I'd want to be swimming around in.

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Right. And every time there's a flood,

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_04]: you always see people like in their kayaks and bicycles and stuff

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_04]: just gooping off the water. Yeah.

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. And it's disgusting.

[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_08]: And yeah, you really helped add that, you know, to even just the normal

[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_08]: kind of flooding like people that, you know, after hours,

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_08]: maybe they just take a leak on the street.

[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_08]: There's all that garbage is all that nasty.

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Yeah.

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Not you're not even like chemical content.

[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, even there's like

[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_04]: runoff from cars and trucks and, you know, spills

[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_04]: and stuff that accumulates over the time. But hmm.

[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Nasty.

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_08]: It's not like lake water, guys.

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_08]: It's not like a river.

[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_08]: It's not like a pool.

[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_08]: It's like disgusting slurry of slop.

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_08]: So that's really it really can present a danger to you.

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_08]: So another thing that I started pondering was

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_08]: when we talk about food storage and we talk about water storage

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_08]: and we talk about having our preps, most of the time,

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_08]: our preps are stored low to keep them cool. Right.

[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_08]: We can't have basements here in Texas, but in the Midwest,

[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm sure in Canada, they have basements, sellers, things like that

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_08]: where you keep your your products to keep them cool,

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_08]: keep the light away, that kind of stuff.

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_08]: It's an ideal storage setup.

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_08]: However, that that's like flood zone, right?

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_08]: How much of your preps are you going to lose?

[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_08]: How much water storage are you going to lose because of that?

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_08]: So the only thing that I could really think of is if you're in,

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_08]: you know, kind of the the threat is imminent.

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_08]: Maybe you want to start moving all that stuff to higher ground,

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_08]: move it up to your attic, that kind of thing.

[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_08]: Make sure your stuff's in watertight containers.

[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_08]: However, even if you salvage that, you want to clean that off

[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_08]: because now it's had all that yucky water all over it.

[00:53:04] [SPEAKER_08]: You don't want to just open that up.

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_08]: You could contaminate the whole thing.

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_08]: Having multiple stash sites.

[00:53:13] [SPEAKER_08]: So instead of just having all your preps at your house,

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_08]: you know, maybe you have some at, you know, a relative's house

[00:53:20] [SPEAKER_08]: that's not too far, kind of like your bug out location,

[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_08]: that kind of thing, right?

[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_08]: And then firearms and ammunition and water are also a bad mix.

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, they you're going to rust out your firearms, that kind of stuff.

[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_08]: So if these things are happening, you need to have a plan

[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_08]: to start moving product, moving your your storage items

[00:53:42] [SPEAKER_08]: someplace higher. Get that stuff to safety.

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_08]: I was like, man, that, you know, even if you have something buried, right?

[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, now you just had it all.

[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_04]: It could be saturated in water.

[00:53:56] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

[00:53:58] [SPEAKER_08]: So big, big risk because that's kind of the standard

[00:54:02] [SPEAKER_08]: for storing your stuff.

[00:54:06] [SPEAKER_08]: Evacuation.

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_08]: If you wait too long, it's probably not going to be possible or safe.

[00:54:12] [SPEAKER_08]: Right. Because why?

[00:54:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Because you have to go through all that water

[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_04]: that just surrounded your your house or your town.

[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_08]: Right. Because we never drive through the flood waters.

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_04]: That's right, James.

[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, we never drive through the flood waters.

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_04]: There I just posted a solution to flooding.

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I see that like your own private.

[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Damn. Yeah.

[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, that's awesome.

[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_08]: All right.

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_08]: So for those of you who are really, really rich

[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_08]: and you're looking at the live chat, you can just buy this blow up ring

[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_08]: that goes around your whole house.

[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Is it a blow up ring?

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_04]: It's probably full of water, honestly.

[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, there you go.

[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_08]: Yep. Fair enough to keep it.

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it looks like it worked to me.

[00:55:02] [SPEAKER_08]: There was a guy who made the tornado berm around his house

[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_08]: and saved it. Everybody laughed at him, but it saved it.

[00:55:09] [SPEAKER_08]: If you're in a major risk zone, guys, you got to you got to research this

[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_08]: and you have to know this and you got to leave earlier

[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_04]: and plan your route.

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, like you said in your notes, multiple routes.

[00:55:21] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. Routes upon routes.

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_08]: Because you never know like what roads going to wash out,

[00:55:26] [SPEAKER_08]: which ones can be unstable.

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_08]: It depends on, you know, how much rain hit that area.

[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_08]: There's so many variables.

[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_04]: So traffic, you know, is this like a primary route?

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, everybody's going to be going that way.

[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you know of a different way?

[00:55:42] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, for sure.

[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_08]: So special prepping ideas for flooding, flotation devices.

[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, the more you can keep out of flooding water,

[00:55:53] [SPEAKER_08]: the better. Yeah.

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, I was thinking life jackets even, you know, better

[00:55:58] [SPEAKER_08]: to have a life jacket on the night if you were to get swept away

[00:56:02] [SPEAKER_08]: kind of thing, you know.

[00:56:03] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know if I'd want to be walking around my life jacket.

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_08]: But, you know, whatever.

[00:56:09] [SPEAKER_08]: I definitely have my kid in one, you know.

[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_08]: But you can you can take preps away.

[00:56:15] [SPEAKER_08]: You can take that stuff away if you have like a blow up raft

[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_08]: that you could use something like that.

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. Waiters.

[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, if you're a hunter or something like that,

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_08]: you know exactly what I'm talking about, but they have like big overalls

[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_08]: that come all the way up.

[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_08]: So if you have to walk through the water to do something,

[00:56:33] [SPEAKER_08]: you know, to take care of your house, whatever,

[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_08]: at least you would be, you know, have that protective barrier

[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_08]: between you and the floodwaters.

[00:56:44] [SPEAKER_08]: A walking stick.

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_08]: So walk. Yeah.

[00:56:47] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, I love my walking stick.

[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_08]: It's just my.

[00:56:51] [SPEAKER_08]: My it's my baby.

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_08]: I love it.

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_08]: I got my paracord on there.

[00:56:56] [SPEAKER_08]: House me stretch my shoulder.

[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_08]: But it allows you to judge the depth of the water before you step into it.

[00:57:03] [SPEAKER_08]: Also, it turns you from a bipod to a tripod.

[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_08]: So you have more stability when you're in an unstable situation.

[00:57:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Again, if you're evacuating some special things

[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_08]: you want to think about, you want to have a water or a window breaking tool.

[00:57:21] [SPEAKER_08]: You need it.

[00:57:22] [SPEAKER_08]: The pressure of the water on the window can make them hard to roll down.

[00:57:27] [SPEAKER_08]: So you can't escape most the drownings

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_08]: in flood type situations happens when people are still in their vehicle.

[00:57:34] [SPEAKER_08]: So you need a window breaking tool.

[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_08]: The electronics might fail, so you can't roll down your window anymore.

[00:57:42] [SPEAKER_08]: When you're breaking a window, you don't want to hit it in the center.

[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_08]: It's easiest if you hit it on the edge to break it.

[00:57:49] [SPEAKER_08]: That was an interesting thing I picked up.

[00:57:52] [SPEAKER_08]: So I have a like a pointy baton that I carry on my key ring all the time.

[00:57:57] [SPEAKER_08]: It is technically a window breaker, but it's a great self-defense tool as well.

[00:58:02] [SPEAKER_08]: Dual purpose, it's on my key ring all the time and I never have to worry about it.

[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_08]: I used to also help market a product called

[00:58:13] [SPEAKER_08]: cash was the owl window breaker.

[00:58:17] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it's like a credit card size

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_08]: and you don't need strength for it.

[00:58:23] [SPEAKER_08]: Anybody can do it.

[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_08]: You just hook it to the window and then flick it and it'll break that window

[00:58:27] [SPEAKER_08]: just like that. It's really neat.

[00:58:30] [SPEAKER_08]: So if you're elderly or you have really bad arthritis or something like that,

[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_08]: that is an option for you for sure.

[00:58:38] [SPEAKER_08]: OK, we're already oh, the emergency car kit.

[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_08]: So your food, water, med kit, you know, you guys should have this anyway.

[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_08]: We've been talking about these a lot lately.

[00:58:49] [SPEAKER_08]: It's definitely something that should be in your vehicle.

[00:58:52] [SPEAKER_08]: And then have your flotation device or your life jackets with you in the car.

[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_08]: Like, don't take off and leave that behind because, you know,

[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_08]: that could really help you out.

[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_08]: All right. After the flood.

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_08]: After the flood is just as dangerous, I would say, as during the flood.

[00:59:11] [SPEAKER_08]: There's a lot of potential threats that you need to think about.

[00:59:15] [SPEAKER_08]: Things could have shifted as far as homes, trees,

[00:59:19] [SPEAKER_08]: all of that stuff. Water can just take everything out.

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_08]: So after the flood as well, if that infrastructure like in BC has been destroyed.

[00:59:30] [SPEAKER_08]: Now you're looking at food shortages, water shortages, gas shortages,

[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_08]: essential supplies are all being delayed because of shipping,

[00:59:39] [SPEAKER_08]: because of trucks can't get in there.

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_08]: The roads might be impassable.

[00:59:42] [SPEAKER_08]: Bridges are down.

[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_08]: Critical infrastructure is destroyed and your utility systems are destroyed.

[00:59:48] [SPEAKER_08]: So this is when your preps are going to come in key.

[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_08]: So you do not want them wrecked by the floodwater.

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_08]: So you have nothing then water causes a ton of damage.

[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_08]: And you can throw those couple of videos up in the chat there, Chin.

[01:00:06] [SPEAKER_08]: Those are great ones. Yes, ma'am.

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_08]: So you want to begin drying out your home as soon as possible.

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_08]: And honestly, until I watch these videos, because I work insurance,

[01:00:19] [SPEAKER_08]: I know a lot of this stuff and I deal with it all the time.

[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_08]: But I didn't realize how intensive it is until I watched these videos

[01:00:29] [SPEAKER_08]: that Chin shared with me so we could get a little bit more educated.

[01:00:36] [SPEAKER_08]: And, you know, you have to cut away the drywall.

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_08]: You're not just ripping the carpet out and the padding out and stuff like that.

[01:00:44] [SPEAKER_08]: You have to cut away the drywall above that water line.

[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_08]: You have to cut away that insulation.

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_08]: But I mean, we're down to studs in the whole bottom of the house.

[01:00:54] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just. Yeah, the water line down.

[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. Yeah.

[01:00:59] [SPEAKER_08]: And it makes sense.

[01:01:01] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, mold is like major concern.

[01:01:05] [SPEAKER_08]: And what do you say? Two days.

[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_02]: It starts. Yeah.

[01:01:09] [SPEAKER_08]: And that was some mega mold going on.

[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_08]: So, of course, anytime you're doing the clean out efforts

[01:01:15] [SPEAKER_08]: and 95 mass, you got to protect your lungs from all these mold spores

[01:01:20] [SPEAKER_08]: of bacteria, just nastiness in the air.

[01:01:25] [SPEAKER_08]: Look out for any kind of structural concerns.

[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_08]: I've seen it where like water was coming through the roof.

[01:01:30] [SPEAKER_08]: It comes out around ceiling fans and things like that a lot.

[01:01:34] [SPEAKER_08]: So those are have potentials to fall down, that kind of thing.

[01:01:40] [SPEAKER_08]: So watch out for, you know, don't just look down,

[01:01:43] [SPEAKER_08]: look up to you and see what's going on.

[01:01:45] [SPEAKER_08]: You never know what what could be ready to fall on your head, basically.

[01:01:52] [SPEAKER_08]: The water line stripped down is even more than you think,

[01:01:56] [SPEAKER_08]: like even behind the tubs. Right.

[01:01:59] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. That was crazy.

[01:02:01] [SPEAKER_04]: When he said that, I was like, oh, I didn't think about that.

[01:02:05] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. All that drywall, all that insulation behind the cabinetry.

[01:02:10] [SPEAKER_08]: Right. You have to strip that all out and start to dry it.

[01:02:15] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, there was a little bit in each video, there's a different recipe.

[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_08]: So one guy makes it a little bit stronger than the other one.

[01:02:22] [SPEAKER_08]: But I thought the one cup to bleach to five gallons of water

[01:02:25] [SPEAKER_08]: was just easier to kind of remember them three core.

[01:02:29] [SPEAKER_08]: He had a different one, like quarter to a gallon or something like that.

[01:02:34] [SPEAKER_08]: So it's a little bit more diluted.

[01:02:36] [SPEAKER_08]: So you can go a little bit over a cup and you're going to be fine.

[01:02:39] [SPEAKER_08]: But one cup to five gallons of water, you need to bleach everything.

[01:02:43] [SPEAKER_08]: Kill that bacteria, kill that mold, bleach.

[01:02:46] [SPEAKER_04]: The first guy said be careful metal and like electrical waters.

[01:02:51] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh yeah, fair enough.

[01:02:53] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. And shut that all down.

[01:02:55] [SPEAKER_08]: Shut down your gas line if you smell it.

[01:02:57] [SPEAKER_08]: If you think anything's weird, shut that down.

[01:02:59] [SPEAKER_08]: Shut down all your power before you even enter the house.

[01:03:01] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, why take the risk? Right.

[01:03:04] [SPEAKER_08]: So you know it's safe.

[01:03:06] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, and he was saying like even metal flashings, things like that

[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_08]: around the electrical outlets might need to come out

[01:03:12] [SPEAKER_08]: because they can get rusty after they've been wet, that kind of thing.

[01:03:17] [SPEAKER_08]: Man, so much to it.

[01:03:20] [SPEAKER_08]: And I wish I could sit here and tell you, hey, don't worry,

[01:03:24] [SPEAKER_08]: because you have home insurance and it's going to be all taken care of.

[01:03:27] [SPEAKER_08]: But that is actually not the case at all.

[01:03:32] [SPEAKER_08]: Sorry to tell you.

[01:03:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Depends on what your policy is, right?

[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_08]: That no, it actually doesn't.

[01:03:39] [SPEAKER_08]: This is a nationwide thing.

[01:03:42] [SPEAKER_08]: No groundwater movement is covered on homeowners insurance

[01:03:46] [SPEAKER_08]: on a traditional homeowners insurance plan.

[01:03:50] [SPEAKER_08]: No groundwater movement is covered.

[01:03:53] [SPEAKER_08]: So if you have a hole in your roof or the wind makes a hole in your roof

[01:03:57] [SPEAKER_08]: and it's raining and water comes in, yes, that's covered.

[01:04:01] Right.

[01:04:02] [SPEAKER_08]: But if you have a flooding situation where the floodwaters just get so high,

[01:04:07] [SPEAKER_08]: they enter your home and do all that damage.

[01:04:11] [SPEAKER_08]: No, that's groundwater movement and it's not covered.

[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_08]: So if you need, if you're in an area where you think that,

[01:04:22] [SPEAKER_08]: if you think that you're in an area where that's going to be a problem for you,

[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_08]: the only way to get coverage for that is through the national flood insurance

[01:04:31] [SPEAKER_08]: program that the federal government does.

[01:04:34] [SPEAKER_08]: It's expensive in flood area, but they have flood maps, that kind of thing.

[01:04:38] [SPEAKER_08]: So it's something to look into.

[01:04:42] [SPEAKER_08]: Also, Lloyds of London has started selling flood insurance to Americans.

[01:04:48] [SPEAKER_04]: So I think that's when we lived closer to the coast.

[01:04:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's who we had to get it through.

[01:04:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Was Lloyds of London?

[01:04:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, I am.

[01:04:54] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[01:04:56] [SPEAKER_08]: And honestly, like Lloyds of London, they're, they're like a private company.

[01:05:00] [SPEAKER_08]: They really don't have to pay out kind of thing.

[01:05:03] [SPEAKER_08]: Obviously it does them better reputationally if they do, but they're not

[01:05:08] [SPEAKER_08]: like held to it through the laws of the insurance governing laws here.

[01:05:15] [SPEAKER_08]: Anything that happens because of the storm situation, like say the water,

[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_08]: you know, screwed up your gas line, your gas line started leaking.

[01:05:26] [SPEAKER_08]: There was an explosion that burnt your house down.

[01:05:28] [SPEAKER_08]: Now that's covered because explosion and fire are both covered, right?

[01:05:34] [SPEAKER_08]: But the groundwater movement, that damage wouldn't be covered.

[01:05:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[01:05:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Like down here by the coast, there was always the definition between

[01:05:42] [SPEAKER_04]: falling water and rising water.

[01:05:44] [SPEAKER_04]: And we had to have policies that cover both.

[01:05:48] [SPEAKER_08]: That's exactly.

[01:05:48] [SPEAKER_08]: That's why I say it's a nationwide thing.

[01:05:52] [SPEAKER_08]: No policy is going to cover it unless you have special flood insurance

[01:05:56] [SPEAKER_08]: from one of those two sources.

[01:05:58] [SPEAKER_08]: They're the only ones available.

[01:06:01] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, unplanned power outages.

[01:06:04] [SPEAKER_08]: So for example, in California, when they announced that we're going

[01:06:07] [SPEAKER_08]: to have a power shortage and you don't take actions to do anything about it.

[01:06:12] [SPEAKER_08]: Now that's not covered.

[01:06:13] [SPEAKER_08]: You lose your food supply in your fridge, whatever.

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_08]: That's not covered.

[01:06:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Wow.

[01:06:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[01:06:20] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[01:06:20] [SPEAKER_08]: Cause they announced it to you ahead of time, right?

[01:06:23] [SPEAKER_08]: They gave you time to take precautions.

[01:06:26] [SPEAKER_08]: I know.

[01:06:28] [SPEAKER_08]: But if I know it's this little legal jargon, right?

[01:06:32] [SPEAKER_08]: But if the storm causes the power outage, then that is covered.

[01:06:38] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, you'll have to check with your state on that one.

[01:06:40] [SPEAKER_08]: Cause I, I'm just, I'm licensed in, you know, three different states, but

[01:06:44] [SPEAKER_08]: and California is pretty much the most restrictive with insurance.

[01:06:48] [SPEAKER_08]: So it covers most of the country, but, um, definitely check with your own plan.

[01:06:55] [SPEAKER_08]: However, say you had freezers that were full of meat, your preps, that kind

[01:06:59] [SPEAKER_08]: of thing, and you had power outage and you lost those because of it.

[01:07:02] [SPEAKER_08]: It would be covered subject to your deductible.

[01:07:05] [SPEAKER_08]: So it depends on what your deductible is.

[01:07:07] [SPEAKER_08]: If you have like a $2,000 deductible and you had, you know,

[01:07:11] [SPEAKER_08]: $4,000 worth of food go well, then it would be covered.

[01:07:14] [SPEAKER_08]: But usually that amount of food that you lose doesn't go past your

[01:07:20] [SPEAKER_08]: deductible, so you're kind of screwed either way.

[01:07:27] [SPEAKER_08]: All right.

[01:07:28] [SPEAKER_08]: So that's kind of the insurance.

[01:07:29] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, if you guys have any questions in the chat about the insurance,

[01:07:32] [SPEAKER_08]: you have any specific questions?

[01:07:34] [SPEAKER_08]: I, I definitely would field them out for you.

[01:07:37] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, but man, this situation with the flooding is just, it's going

[01:07:42] [SPEAKER_08]: to get more and more interesting.

[01:07:45] [SPEAKER_08]: And, uh, interesting theory from suspicious observers is how much

[01:07:50] [SPEAKER_08]: water we have stored beneath the ground.

[01:07:53] [SPEAKER_08]: And then when you start exciting the top, the air on top of it

[01:07:57] [SPEAKER_08]: with electrical, more electrical, um, charges basically, which can happen

[01:08:02] [SPEAKER_08]: from the sun's going into a more active field, it hits our planet.

[01:08:06] [SPEAKER_08]: It charges up the atmosphere kind of thing.

[01:08:09] [SPEAKER_08]: It actually starts pulling that water up.

[01:08:13] [SPEAKER_08]: And so we could see a lot more flooding situations even without

[01:08:17] [SPEAKER_08]: the any kind of ocean level rise.

[01:08:19] [SPEAKER_08]: So, all right guys.

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