FOIL FRIDAY: COVIDCast - May 2020 WE DIDNT PLEAD THE 5th!

The Pepper Broadcasting Networks. We have to hit the reset. But to create a true culture preparedness, starting at a very young age and filtering all the way up. Well, PB and family, How are we this evening? James Walton here, big cast of characters Tonight's special interview Tonight. I don't know about you, but things the news doesn't seem to be hitting as hard as it has been. Things seem to be Uh well, I guess the big news is that the White House has been rocked with infections in and around the area. The NIH head came out today and said that we, you know, maybe gonna need maybe need a handful of vaccinations to deal with the old COVID nineteen, not just one, not just one stick for the for the vaccine. Uh you know, I don't know. Maybe it's just me, but I don't know. I'm getting tired of looking at the ticker tape about this thing. To be quite honest with you, I'm getting tired of looking at statistics and how many new dailygues and how many deaths, and I mean, yeah, it's kind of wearing on me. I think we might have to fire the MC at the COVID cast because We've got to get some new blood in here to get to get everybody riled up. We've got Jordan with us of a Family Affairs Saturday Night host. Tonight we have Day. Night. We have Dave Jones, the NBC guy. As per usual, We're lucky enough to have Steven Menking of on Theobjective dot Org with us again. We got a couple of great questions from Dave Jones that he's gonna speak too right off the bat, and we have a we have we have a great group. So this is I'm just gonna give you one caveat on this interview. We have a great group. We haven't all got together, particularly with Jordan, in a while and chatted. So we're we're gonna jump right in with Steve. We're gonna go go into Dave in his report, then we'll start talking to Jordan, and uh, we're gonna run the interview at some point. I just want you to know it. Maybe it's gonna be the last thing we do. So if we get rolling and we're having good conversation, you're gonna have to wait till the end of the show to hear from Tim mcwelsh. That could be like two hours from now. It all depends, you know. But you guys got fast forward and rewind. If you want to hear this thing after or if you're listening to it in a you know, not live sense, then you can just fast forward to that at the end of the show. But that's about it, folks. I'm not going to do any shameless plugging up front. You guys know all the channels and the routes and the routines. So without further ado, let's get Stephen Menking on here. Steven, how are you this evening, sir. I'm doing just fine here, James. It's a pleasure to be back with everyone at PBN. And if you don't mind, I think it's good to jump into Dave's two questions about the stock market and potential inflation to get us started. What do you think? I love it? I love it. Let's do it all right. So, the basic overview is that the only V shaped recovery that is visible at this moment is in the stock market, and particularly in the technology sector that was leading this market rally prior to the pandemic. And it's an interesting situation because many of these online tech businesses at scale in winner take all environments are eating all of the smaller players. And we have a perplexing situation because on one hand, people are talking about extended secular declines in the economy, but that really hasn't been the case in terms of it being directly reflected in equity indexes. And what I would point out is that the primary mechanism for this is, of course the idea that prices go up when there are more buyers than sellers, and prices go down when they're more sellers than buyers. It's simplistic, but it helps us understand what's going on at a point where bailouts have been levied at major American industries and liquidity has been guaran ted. One of the first places that that liquidity goes is into these types of assets, and stocks have been in this kind of holding pattern a little bit. It just has resumed and uptrend. And that doesn't mean that it's going to fall off a cliff anytime soon. But you could imagine the catalyst that would that would create that it would be a return to the max fear dynamic typically you know, because of some other kind of catalyst. It would require another news item. At this standpoint, to shake, to shake people again, or if the extent of the fiscal and monetary stimulus doesn't match up with people's expectations. And you know here, of course, now it's a garden variety thing that every couple of weeks, a couple trillion dollars is put on the table. And it begins to get into a question that I've seen several people ask, and that is, hey, if the government can just print trillions of dollars and not be worried about the impact, then why are we even paying taxes at all? Like why do they need the thousands of dollars that middle class a middle class family would pay into the system. If they could just print that without so much as a second thought, if this ammunition was all there, then you know, why couldn't we Why couldn't we push a little bit more on the on the printing press and and and stimulate the economy by leaving people more of their money. And it's a it's a question that gets to the heart of economic policy. But it gets into the second question about inflation. We certainly haven't seen the kind of runaway inflation that many have predicted, and part of that is because, you know, we can't exclusively base our analysis on historical precedent. Yeah, fiat currencies end up printing themselves into oblivion. Yes, the common lifespan of a fiat currency is a handful of decades, and yes we are sort of past that mark. But each situation has its own unique components. And starting after the financial crisis, as quantitative easing really began to expand and dominate the monetary policy landscape, we saw money velocity go down. It just wasn't getting put to work in the same way. And it's worth noting that each individual person, each individual household, is going to experience inflation differently because inflation is quoted according to a CPI basket of goods that is supposed to represent some average or representative families spending on different goods and services. But presumably any one of us listening is going to have a different outlay in terms of spend than this quote unquote typical family. And so we've seen very areas education and healthcare, let's say, over the past couple decades, absolutely skyrocket in terms of price and other things. In terms of computing power and the technology driven items, those decrease as Moore's law continues to press on unabated, and this tells you that there isn't something consistent and just overall happening at every level of the economy. It is more towards the incentive structure and the regulation the way that different sectors are governed and interacted with at a governmental level that is actually going to determine their price dynamics. So we of course haven't yet seen the wholesale inflation that many have called for. And the difficulty is that, even though we understand that there is an inevitability to the reduction in pursoning power that reaches a tipping point, that tipping point is psychological. And when you're looking at the billions and billions of dollars that is looking for a home, like where is this capital going to go? Any other investment in the sovereign bond market other than the US is taking on is taking on additional risk in terms of getting the yield. And so what are people going to do? Are they going to buy Japanese bonds? Are they going to buy Chinese bonds? Where is that money going to find a home. And because of the ubiquity of the dollar, it still retains its world reserve currency status even in a world that is slightly dedollarized, and we certainly haven't reached that tipping point just yet. However, it is not necessarily the case that that can protect us forever. In fact, mathematically it just can't be the case. The world does change, but in terms of the current dynamics, it hasn't changed yet, and it's very much a bit by bit, bit by bit, slowly but surely, and then suddenly all at once, that kind of inflection point tipping point dynamic where all of a sudden the psychology changes and you go from a before to and after picture and everything becomes different. And that's extremely challenging because for people who understand the idea of the need for us to be responsible in terms of monetary policy, and who really don't see a way out of this apart from aggressive levels of growth, you end up in a situation where people, unfortunately will be over predictive, and you know, for every call for inflation, by the time you get one right, you've made a dozen wrong. And so the timing that really is tricky. But it's important for us to make that fundamental case, but also to be aware that the system as it's constructed depending on the incentives. You know, it's not necessarily going to obey economic rules of nature and gravity quite the same way that we might like. Was there a clarifying question that I could help answer there, and someone just open up their mic, I will proceed accordingly. Please feel free to interrupt here. But speaking of the idea of the psychological changes, it's very important to understand that market behavior and economics is attempting to predict and understand how human beings make decisions, and not just at an individual level, at a collective level, and that's extremely difficult. So what can we expect, Well more of the same. Weirdly enough, the psychological adjustment to the new status quo of trillions of dollars of stimulus has taken place, and we will see how all of that plays out. But it really is difficult in terms of knowing when the ultimate cracks will show. We know that the foundation is continuing to erode because we don't see the conditions necessary in order to reverse that process this, but as it pertains specifically on the COVID side, we know more and more that the way that the fatalities are being counted isn't going to be perfectly representative. And of course it's difficult, if not impossible, to get fully accurate data in something as complex as this, But what we're seeing is that there are the official guidelines have essentially anyone who has tested positive, regardless of whether that is the proximate cause of death or not, is counted in these statistics. And so I don't I haven't checked to see if the discrepancy that was pointed out last week has been has been resolved. Presumably it's accounting methodology thing, but regardless, this psychology is not max fear the way it was at the at the end of March. And I think there's an interesting sort of approach here that we can think about as it pertains to the extremely inflammatory and contempt That is that if we end up getting proper evidence about the efficacy of various treatment regiments, particularly at early enough stages in the cycle, then if you are if you're a person who doesn't have other risk factors, then you know I would say that, and again this depends on the situation. I would have a hunch that I would prefer just speaking for myself, this is clearly not a medical opinion, But if I am a healthy young adult who doesn't have any other major risk factors, and there's an efficacious treatment regiment that is demonstrably effective in the early stages of something like this, then I would feel more comfortable knowing that that's out there then taking a vaccine that, even if you have rush trials, is difficult to prove in terms of avoiding second order effects. So I think there there's a difference there, And of course people's concerned would be that a particular medical course of action would be would be mandated, and that's that's a different discussion of the geopolitical and the tyrannical variety. But we're definitely in, as we mentioned before, a different, different stage of the game. And you know, James, if you're if you're tired of watching the cry on on this stuff, I imagine that most other people are as well, and that shouldn't be too much of a surprise. I think that as we do this stage rollout of people continuing to have other social distancing guidelines, then you know, we'll we'll see it is hopefully going to be an evidence based response in terms of the policy as opposed to a political one. But there there comes a point where the incentives are. The incentives are such that the the the momentum towards opening is going to going to continue, and how that plays out, of course, remains to be seen. But from a psychological perspective, I think a lot of the differential in the news cycle is because of the uptick in the Obama Gate scenario in terms of the transcripts being released of the Russian investigation, which demonstrates that key Obama officials, in fact, no one had any direct evidence of collusion, despite direct and demonstrable claims to the contrary. So it's a it's a tricky scenario, a tricky time. People are definitely on edge, and we will see how things develop as we get closer and closer to the summer. But if we don't get if we don't get back to some more semblance of normalcy by Memorial Day, I think people's patients may may run out, But it's very clear to see the officials who are in charge, such as the mayor of Chicago and the governor of Michigan and the folks out in California. The overreach is now abundantly clear, and so hopefully we can get a situation where people are paying attention to this more and more, and it results in more appropriate action at the ballot box to change to change the regime here, to really prioritize the installment of public officials who understand and prioritize the constitution. Maybe that's wishful thinking on my part, but I think more people than ever are more aware of the situation and the stakes that we're playing for because we have visual examples, we can see what happens. We don't just have to believe a dire warning that someone raises on YouTube and the internet. So that's my take. Inflation may take longer than we might expect to play out, but when it happens, it happens suddenly, and that's why you have to take concentrated steps to prepare in advance. But you also don't want to be, you know, among the batch of people who are or sort of constantly decrying the state of affairs and calling for economic doomsday this week or the next, because even if you're eventually right, and you will be, you're going to be wrong so many times that the influence of your perspective and your opinions is going to be diminished. So we have to think very carefully, not just about what is going to happen, but when it might happen and how best to effectuate our message. This doesn't mean that we should modulate it to avoid speaking the truth or to equivocate about the possibilities, but it just means we should be more reasoned and articulate about the various scenarios that could develop so that we don't torpedo our own credibility and an effort to get people to pay attention to things, because that has too often been an approach. It's been a scare tactic where in order to motivate either the purchase of particular goods that are being sold or a change in the course of action, which even might be of benefit long term to people, the approach and the tactic has been to escalate the scenario and to use fear as a motivating factor, when instead we should be focused more on effective education. And it's difficult, of course, because the channels that produce and that disseminate information are programmed quite literally to propagate that kind of messaging, in part because it is designed to facilitate attention of because of the nature of human emotions and our current information dissemination platforms are structured along the lines where they are rewarded for attention, so that system isn't going to change anytime soon, even if we do potentially have different kinds of technologies that could be developed to change that model. So it's a confusing and a complex scenario, but hopefully the stakes are becoming clearer and clearer to people, and the choices of how we want to construct and govern our society are becoming clear. There is still, in my view, a non zero probability that this entire scenario could tilt us more towards freedom than towards tyranny, even though tyranny is definitely making a strong play here, because that's all tyranny does. It just pushes and pushes and oppresses and oppresses and tries to grab power wherever possible. So given that there's a non zero chance of actually stepping into a future that focuses on constitutional freedoms and proper information and community response and preparation, that's a future that is absolutely worth fighting for, and it's worth us being measured and appropriate in our responses so that we can maintain credibility as voices to stand up against the sort of default, criticism of conspiracy and alternative viewpoints, and that kind of over our attempt to discredit that is going to come naturally from establishment media sources. So we have to be extremely responsible in the here and now with everything that we're doing, with our research, with what we're talking about, and if we do so, then the people themselves will see which approach is better, which approach is driven on truth and an inspiring view of the world that we can build, the world that we can help build for our children and for our country. This is a critical moment, as we've often said, and I'm grateful to be here with this group of incredibly astute and passionate hosts and presenters on such an important occasion, speaking to people at this pivotal time. So the stakes are extremely generous. Pay attention. Well, you're too generous. It's worth it. Lots of people are doing nothing or simply contributing to the various kinds of pr negative feedback loops that we see where you know, you get a headline from someone and then you automatically take it in as dogma and then present it as a fact without even knowing where you yourself got that opinion. So you know, we're I take a lot of pride in knowing that this group is being responsible about what we're doing because of the genuine understanding of the stakes involved here. So I thank I thank you for that, Dave. But it's a generosity that is well earned in my view. So, Steven, one of the things that UH kind of is always kicking around in my head. And you're a You're in a part of the country that's pretty set apart from most of us, just from the hosts of the I Am Liberty, I mean of the Prepper broadcasting network. Rather, you're in a part of the country that not a lot of us get get into on a regular basis, And I want wanted to get your take. I mean, if I could squeeze the grape a little more. After all that, I also wanted to kind of get your personal take on the atmosphere in the further northeast and kind of if I don't know if you're getting out and having interaction or not, but if you are, I'd love to get it. This is one of my this is one of my favorite things to ask people right now is what are people like in your area? So there's a mix of different scenarios. I'm here in Connecticut, so there's a lot of people who have had their businesses disrupted, either through furlough or through job loss, or just through working remote. There is a great deal of pessimism in the New York side of things, because people are essentially looking at a scenario where it's going to be it's going to be the case that they are anticipating even when you re open some very strict guidelines about how close people can be to one another in an office space, and essentially similar kinds of regulations that are applied to hospitals and other kind of sensitive facilities would be applied potentially to all office spaces. So I know people who are involved in the planning procedure for bringing an office back online, and these are the things that they are worried about. And they're worried about this because of the complexity that's involved. And you know, given the high population density, particularly on public transit, and the ease for many white collar businesses of working from home, people are now sort of questioning, like, what is the value proposition of of being in New York, at least being in New York with as many people on the team as before. So that's one conversation. I know, I know a couple of different people who have moved out of New York City and you know, plan to but certainly will because of this, at least on a semi permanent kind of basis. We'll see how everything shakes out. But there is a lot of pessimism here. And this is an area where if we take a big picture of view and we say, hey, one of the twenty thirty agenda items was to urbanize in a dramatic fashion, and this change in psychology may push people in the opposite direction. Interestingly enough, that doesn't necessarily mean that all of the rural areas of the country will now be the beneficiaries of a great deal of New Yorkers fleeing there, but it means a greater shift in terms of the suburbs and the exerbs and that sort of thing, particularly given the different scenario now here in Connecticut. There's definitely a different psychology depending on how closely people are aligned politically to the agendas that are being, let's say, propagandized by mainstream media networks. If it is very clear that for people who have been hard hard, like mainlined into CNN and MSNBC for this entire time. They are going to be the kinds of people who are extremely skeptical of any effort to open, and they are going to be very aggressive about making social media comments here, particularly on Facebook given the age demographic, to say, you know, nobody should be outside at all, how dare you You're endangering my children, et cetera, et cetera very very very hardline in terms of being enthusiastic about draconian measures and criticizing any effort to any effort to reopen as something that is a rush or too hasty. But this is also a situation where this is coming from a demographic who is not in dire financial straits. As a result of this, there are plenty of other people who are just frustrated about how long this has gone on in terms of the potential damage that is being done to small businesses. And it's a divide, and it is definitely a divide that has some of its contours along political lines. And that isn't terribly surprising given the importance of the information that is available, because when you have a diet of propaganda, we shouldn't be surprised that your viewpoint will take on the will take on the positions that that propaganda is desiring. Like propaganda is used for reason, it's because it's an extremely effective tool in order to manage the emotions, the psychology, and all of those sorts of efforts. So people are definitely divided. But as time goes by, and as you know, some people are heavily propagandized and are not going to come out of that. They're just going to follow the follow the line that is that is put out there. But as time goes on, you'd imagine that that balance shifts towards the people who are desiring of a of a responsible kind of return to normalcy. Like around here, we're going into the stage where low density, low density things can begin to reopen, but with continued social distance and face covering measures involved. But for most people there is a little bit of frustration and fatigue. But there isn't a great sense here of okay, we need to you know, we need to go to city hall to protest these kind of these kind of things, because it hasn't reached, at least in this immediate area, the kind of things that we've seen that we've seen elsewhere and they're also isn't quite as much of that of that spirit inside of the citizenry in the electorate. This is a fairly old sort of more more old line liberal kind of kind of cohort in terms of the way that it is it's laid out, and so I wouldn't expect to see any major rallies or protests in in my vicinity anytime soon. But that's the that's the report from the New York metro area on the Connecticut side. If you go different places in New England, you're going to get a completely different approach because I imagine, like up in Vermont where there are practically no cases, you know, people are more enthusiastic about getting things open because the risk reward trade off. But so far, so far it hasn't. We haven't seen the kind of crazy overreach that is that is elsewhere. But you know, people could beg to differ because it's all relative on that on that kind of standpoint, But that's the tend for us. I see it. I appreciate it. Steven, thanks so much for joining us tonight's They're always a enlightening conversation here on the COVID cast, which you become a staple of here. So I think you've got to call the night at this point. And we do appreciate you as always. Well again my pleasure, and it's a great privilege to be here with all of you, and so I am appreciative and thankful for the continued invitations, and I would urge everyone listening to step up because this is an important moment. I know I've been saying that every single week, but it's still true. It is still true that this is a time to look ahead to what the future could be. Because just as tyranny will never let a good crisis go to waste, neither should the people who are intent on re establishing and building a new vis of what proper freedom, constitutional freedom looks like in a country where we can have more informed citizenry, people who are more aware of the dangers of tyranny, people who are better equipped to be prepared for different outcomes, so that tyranny is less of an enticing and exciting option. And this is about changing hearts and minds, because that is the nature of the asymmetric battlefield. So please please continue to be thoughtful and responsible and effective in your presentations. As I know everyone else here will be. I have no doubt about that. So thanks again everyone for having me with you. I will see you on the next broadcast. Hey, Steven, Yeah, I know you can't hear me because I was on mute, but I took I kept track, and I have eight little tick marks here. Every time I said amen to what. What I'll say amen to that, you can add an extra tick mark. Give it one for myself. I am myself a little bit my pleasure. God bless you guys, Stephen meenkingfolks on the Objective dot org Economic Updates reliance every Sunday. Hopefully when Steven Menking comes on the microphone, you hear a familiar voice and not someone new because he's been putting out great content here at PBN for a long time now. So we've got a new someone new is met and entered the field of battle. It's Sam b uh Dave. I know you had you had a document you wanted to talk about. Then I think we're going to turn this thing loose into uh, you know, a barstool conversation because we got the perfect group for it. Absolutely. Hey, well, I just wanted to let the listeners know my two questions, and I've learned after weeks okay, that you got to ask your questions up front or Steven goes. So I asked him before the show. I said, look, how come everything is so bad but the stock market keeps going up? Okay? That was my first question, and then my second question was do you see any way out of this without massive inflation? And of course he answered both of those in droves and then some So I just wanted you to know what those questions were. Hey, and Georgia, who opened up I think almost two weeks ago, has had their lowest recorded increase since this thing happened, so they've been open. Okay. It's amazing what happens when you actually trust your citizenry they do the right thing and you have your lowest cases ever. Fact, Yeah, when Como was going over his things last week, they found sixty six percent the people were at home the cases the cases that were hospitalized reported was sixty six percent. It was the largest by far where they came from. So it's funny that if you let people go and they go out and enjoy the sun, okay, and get out of the house, you have fewer cases. Hold on, I didn't understand that, Dave six. Sixty six percent of the cases what was it? Yes, that they were trying to figure out where the cases were coming from. And sixty six percent, the largest of any category that they had on their slides were from home. Oh I see, I see see, I got you now, So people were being infected in their own homes. Yes, they were isolated, They were in their homes. And they were the largest percentage by far for the categories that they had on that slide, which is really really fascinating. Well, let's see the numbers. We're like eighty thousand. Now, let me put this in perspective for you. To eighty thousand, just the number, right, If you add the total deaths of the Korean War and the total deaths of the Vietnam War, that's ninety one thousand, six hundred and twenty five. So we're almost at the equivalent, and we probably will be there by the time we talk next week. Okay, the total deaths of the Korean War and the Vietnam War put together. And that's the undeniable. That's no matter what comes out, right, if they got the deaths right, But no matter how this thing goes that's sort of that undeniable gut check. It's like, yeah, eighty thousand, that's a that's a tall order, you know. Yeah, that's a heck of a life. If this was a war in the Middle East, everybody would be clamoring to get out. Yeah, either get out or signing up to go over one of the other, one or the other. So, Jordan, what's happening in your neck of the woods? Good to have you back on PBN. We missed you the whole thing, and now you're back. Give us a little bit of an update. What's going on in your world? You were telling us a little bit about some pretty impressive food production in the backyard there. I'd like to hear all about it. I'm I'm definitely trying to increase or at least optimize what I'm growing. I am trying a few new things. My rice is sprouting. I've got maize going as well as with sweet corn and some Cherokee GM corn. I want to try my hand at some of our own grain. I even have amorants growing in between to help separate the corn crops, so it should be interesting if it's read correctly. With the amorant I've got. I should get about almost a pound of grain per plant on the amorant, So it's going to be interesting. I'm trying some completely new things. I'm trying to maximize what I have, or at least supplement what I know we use in our households. It has been very interesting. We had one little cold snap which I was able to cover and save my plants. Thank god. I'm all right, and I know out east y'arre about to get in on another one, but I am. Going to put this out. I hadn't said it, and it's what better to say on the COVID cast itself. We actually lost a family member personally very close to us due to COVID nineteen. And here's the real kicker is I still hear a lot of criticism. I've had people say stuff, and the issue for me is the woman we lost had no underlying health conditions. Okay, yeah, she was older, she was ninety one, but she was as healthy as most forty year old men, you know what I mean, maybe even. Healthier, is what I should say. The only thing that went against her was that she had Alzheimer's. The entire time, her vital signs were great. They were strong and then she was gone. So don't think for one instant that just because you're healthy you are immune from getting this. And I know that sounds horrible and I didn't mean to go dark on y'all, but it's real. If it hadn't been for her mind being gone, I think she would have made it. And the nurse said the same thing. If it hadn't been for the fact that her mind was gone and there wasn't someone to actually push her healthy body to keep going, you could have possibly made it. So please, for for any instant, don't think for a second it can't affect you personally. Yeah, we're sorry for that loss, Jordan. I didn't want to bring it up because of your business. No, it's it's it's fine. I mean, I'm I'm okay with putting it out there now, but it is very real. There's no doubt about it. There's no doubt about When you get to that point of eighty ninety one hundred thousand deaths, you know that there's there's no getting around that number. I think the issues people don't see how bad it is affecting places. And this is not to blow out. The nursing homes habit. In Arkansas, every single nursing home has it. The nurse and staff has it, and they. Still have to go to work and still show up, even with it potentially infecting the elderly patients who don't have it. So people are not taking it seriously. I think the biggest issues for us is we're in stage two. I think about to approach stage three of reopening, and I have seen more people. So I'll go into a store and it seems like anymore it's just maybe the staff. Members wearing a mask. Elsewise you might see ten percent, maybe five percent of the people coming in and out wearing masks. Really, yeah, it's. A lot less than what you would expect. Everybody has gone into protocol complacency. Well, here in Mississippi, people think because everything's op and the virus has gone. Sorry, I didn't mean the backtracked y'usehold tonight, But it really is an issue. Here in the mid South. We do not see hardly anyone with face masks. My family, my mother in law, my children, we all wear a mask when we go into town. We refuse to go in. And here's the proof that one percent can be the issue is out of nine people. We have one person in our entire family, and there's nine people who refuse us to wear a mask into town. That's surprising. That's very surprising because here in Virginia it's well, at least in my neck of the woods, it's been impressive. It's been impressive. There's a lot of people out there wearing masks. A lot of people you wouldn't expect wearing masks too. You know, young couples, no kids, walking around in the in the woods and stuff with masks on. And I see them, Wow, look woods. Yeah, you know, don't want to jack your car? Well, you know they But. I am going to chime in on something though, I did catch windows. If we jump back to the whole food thing real quick, I have it from from a good source, from a truck driver. He's retired now, but he just retired and he still gets updates from other truck drivers on what to pay attention for. And the trucks that have been going to the meat processing plants for the scraps to to take for dog food have completely stopped. They actually stopped about a week ago, so there are no longer uh from the processing plants. There is no outgoing meat for dog food, so you will start seeing a shortage on on dog food itself. And I know that sounds silly, but that's what you're going. To see first. That makes sense because you have to process meat together the scraps. Right, and those have all stopped. Yeah, so I mean from to hear from a truck driver himself. His buddy who who goes to those places, says that he has now at a standstill and now has to do additional runs at other facilities to try to pick up work because now he's not making the dog food run. Hey, this came into mind because we were talking about the meat situation a lot lately, and I was obvious. I don't know if everybody's heard about it or not, but I'm sure most of you have read that. You know, the the exports to places like China have not really taken much of a hit, even though the processing plants themselves have taken a hit, and the American people are going to take a hit. That's bad enough news, but that's that's the situation. You know, when you let a China, a country like China buy up one of the biggest pork processors and producers in your own I guess that's what you have to deal with. But I was thinking about those piles of pigs and wondering why couldn't we export those Why didn't Why didn't that become the backbone of the export. Why didn't we talk to someone in China, in China and say, hey, we're gonna send whole pigs, you process them yourself. I couldn't, you know, the chickens, the pigs, the cows. There has to be a nation somewhere where we could have sent those things rather than and then to see on the back end, Okay, we killed them all. They're just total waste. Yet we're still going to export tons of meat to foreign nations and limit the shopping here in the United States. Those things, those things drive me insane. I don't know about you, guys. What's your take on it? Sam, China ruling the roost here on farming and and meet exports in the whole nine yards. I'm not surprised. I mean, Smithfield got bought by the Chinese a long time ago. It was a day. I remember that day. Do you remember it? I'm sure you read it like when it happened. Yeah, I mean, and the dog food thing yeah, I thought about that a while back. And Matt and I were talking today about some dog food companies, like some of the more fancy ones like Taste of the Wild and stuff. There's people there's like the only real source of meat if the processes are shut down, and this would still have an effect, is like you can get like wild boar based dog foods because you're allowed to sell it to people. There's people in Texas that that's they just shoot wild boor and they sell them to the dog food companies. But I don't even think that's going to be happening. And right now you can get a lot of dogs food for a pretty reasonable price delivered. But yeah, that's not gonna go on for a while. And I I don't the whole meat processing thing. I don't. I wonder how long it's gonna stay shut down because I don't think. I've worked at a like a fish factory where they process fish a lot and the conditions are just perfect for COVID nineteen. It is damp, it is wet, it is cold. Yeah, I used to have to go down me about it. I've worked at a chicken flactory where we had salmonella go. Through Oh yeah, that's I just like I was. It's like the place is called E. F. Phillips and it was up in Ketchikan, Alaskans. The whole floor was just I mean, I bet they must be shut down. They would have to be because that it's such a small island. And I just don't see how the meat process there's can until this is really contained not have outbreaks all the time. Yeah, I know where is? Oh catch you can? Yeah, I was a state trooper in Alaska. Oh boy, I bet you had some real stories. That place was terrible with crime. Oh yeah, but that might have been before you were born, though. Oh. When I was there in the early I guess it was two thousand and five through seven, and just the crime rate was awful. It was like worse than the worst part of New Jersey. In ketchi Can damn I was. I was a state trooper when Carter was president. Okay, yeah, before I was born. Were there people up there. Easy to keep track of? I mean, gee, I remember when I was growing up, they were still paying people to go there. They were like, you was stipend to go live in the last It was so horrendous. Still yeah, yeah, yeah, I care when they started that. Yeah, it's not much. No, I haven't heard yet about the chicken factories back home shutting down. As far as I know, all three of them are still going. But I'm sure it's going to start being strained. I know in Arkansas a lot of the chicken factories are actually fed or you know, the chickens that come in are coming from the local chicken farmers there where they have three or four several hundred foot houses. Because when I put myself through weld in school, I actually ran four hundred foot chicken houses myself and would go through and I worked it for someone who raised them. So I mean I remember the I think it was uh not Pilgrim, the other one, Tyson or something came in and would gather up the chickens and take them straight to the process. And so I don't know how it works at other places. Well, now, for every downside, oh sorry god, Well for every downside, there's an upside. So I was in Pennsylvania today and the guy I was talking to said that if you wanted a half a side of beef, that they can't get their beef to the processing plan. So you can buy now direct from the farmer Now. The flip side to that. On Friday, I got a call from my guy at the farmer's market who does beef, and he said, hey, I have you down for half a beef in June, and I want you to know I can't fill this order. He said, yeah. He said, it's all I can do to get enough beef to the farmer's market because the stores are running out so quickly and everybody's going to the farmer's market now. And of course I told yeah, I told him, I said, well, that's a great place to be. You know, it's starting to become where it's almost better for you as a buyer to buy directly from the farmer themselves. And that's what Mississippi is really trying to promote, is buying from straight from the producer. Then go and do a third person yay. I mentioned the CSA, that's the way to go. The cool thing got the CSAY is that they commit to you, you know what I mean, So you don't you don't have to worry about that issue that Dave is talking about, where I've got an order way at a time. You know, it's like, yeah, I'm in. I bought my share you're going to bring me my stuff. You know you've already planned for this and that. Yeah, that's the way to go. I think, well, and it's a lot it so out here you can. Buy it by a whole cow, a half cow, quarter cow, an eighth of the cow, whatever you want to do. You are going to put more into it, and yes you're gonna have to process more, but it really isn't an investment. Luckily for me is I can buy locally. I do have a girlfriend who raises her own Cuney cooney American guinea hogs who she's getting her USDA or whatever it is. She has to go through to have it licensed, so she can sell directly from her farm to people. And so it's fortunate enough to have friends who I can get sheep or pork. I am working on building a relationship with someone so I can actually start buying a whole cow or even do a trade of I pay for the head of cow as long as they raise the cow, and then I come and butcher when it's time. So I'm really working on a barter and trade system of being able to keep food or goods in my house that I can't necessarily do by myself. That's the key. Yeah. And a thing that Preper Broadcasting Network has always done is we've looked ahead. So if you look back on these COVID presentations that we've done, we've always told you ahead of time what what you should be looking at now. And we're all talking about food and when you when you listen to the interview with Tim mcwelch, okay, So he's a survival guy, a prepper. He wrote seven or eight books, three of them New York Times bestsellers, and he's talking about food. Okay. So if you're not hammered down these relationships now, you really should. Be right or look at people you can. You know what's kind of funny is I did an interview Saturday with Eric tracat Night and it came up, like you said, is building a relationship, but it was also knowing that you may have a skill. You may not think anything of. It has a value. You know, whether it be crochet, whether it be spinning. Whether it be basket weaving, whatever it is, you have a skilled. Look, Dave has quell that right there comes with a value. You know. James has a garden, Sam has her sheep. Everybody has some value. That is, it has a value that is worth something. So don't sell yourself short on what you're able to trade or barter because it is in its own currency. Sorry, I had to get that little uplifting out there after I endown did earlier. Well, you know that we're not going to really understand the effect of the meat shortage or the processing plants being shut down until the nation is back. You know, we're seeing we're seeing things being limited now at locations, but there's no restaurants ordering you know what I mean? Right? How long? That's yes? Where's all that food that was supposed to be going to the restaurantsmart? See, we were fortunate enough. The food that ended up in the restaurants where from the local butcher I purchased from, and so they did a freezer sellout on all the bulk food. So don't think for one second I didn't stand there and snatch up as much as I could. I probably spent five hundred dollars, but that was five hundred dollars I could spend on food at one go because I wasn't going to the grocery store. Well that's a good pickup. So you got to look at the fact that if you if you are in an area like mine, most of these restaurants want to be known for their best food or their best cuts of meat. So most of them here I don't know about where you're at, only purchased local so they can and you know, so they can port a local business, but also showed that they're're being supported too, which means more people buying, more people purchasing. I know, some of the main restaurants were actually selling their freezer stocks here, like the ones that were being closed, Like some of the big dining restaurants were selling everything they had in their freezer to try to bring in some income since they weren't actually cooking. Well yeah, and they knew it would you know, not be good by the time they opened back up. Hey, and speaking to open it back up. Since I was in Pennsylvania today, they're a little dictator of a governor being he is being all he can be. Okay, well that's the syndrome lately. Yeah, So here's what's happening, just like in Virginia, where the rural parts of the state are saying, hey, what the heck? You know, these counties have put to misitioned the governor to let them open, and he says no, and we are in control of your licenses. Whoa, and we will pull your license if you open. The restaurant license, the liquor license, all of the license of the service industry run through the state. Now, is that not the total dictator right? Well, it's amazing that they aren't. You know, we beg them to do the right thing, and when the right thing comes up, they almost seem unwilling to do it because they're worried about re election, you know, the conservative thing, whatever that thing may be. But this thing is they just have thrown all caution through the wind. It seems like many of these governors have no desire to be It's almost like they've they're like the Emperor palpaty in their ear or something. They're telling them down. You must keep them locked down, you know what I mean, because you're being elected again. There's no way that guy will get elected again. It's too many people are gonna be crushed, especially those small guys out there in the rural areas. You have to let them open up. That's so crazy. You know. You have to salons, barbershops, they're all licensed through your state. Yeah, that's that's rough. That's rough because God only knows how long they're gonna they're gonna push that, you know, that could just go as long as they want, all depending on who's what the data is around there, and how many cases can you have in Mechanicsville, Pennsylvania right now, you know, or Mecklenburg, I mean rather exactly. Likes that's that's Cyoga County. Yeah, exactly. Who's quandering around there? Man, that's an ugly thing. But but we're seeing, you know, we're seeing the true face of what power can do to people. You know, it makes people, they get drunk, They get drunk on it, and it's that's exactly what a lot of them are doing right now. I don't know what's going to happen. You know what I'm most well, I'm still I'll tell you Dave talks about the future and what we talk about the things that are coming, and what I'm most most concerned about right now. Now. I'm an idiot when it comes to economics, So I take Steven's word for it when it comes to what the financial crisis could look like, would look like, should look like. I'm most concerned about the fall you know, I really am worried about what happens if and I'm not necessarily concerned about a second, more deadly wave of the virus. What I'm concerned about is a second wave of the virus, and I'm concerned about the people of the United States going There's no way I'm going through that hell again. Like, there is no way, because I know people who are going through hell right now, you know what I mean, like the highest, the lowest levels of hell that you can go through. There going through no money, no unemployment, money, no way to work, no, you know, the whole thing. Kids are screwed by this thing. And I for all that has happened. You know, I know like three guys personally that are like, we're probably gonna go out of business. You know, three personally around the nation that are basically they're in They're in the business equivalent of hospice right now, and I just can't imagine if they somehow survive and then we make it through this summer and the fall kicks in and the holiday shopping season is right around the corner, and cases start creeping up, and you have dipshit. Mayor in Pennsylvania Governor's saying, oh, you know what, we're gonna have to close it all down again. People are gonna go crazy. I just can't see, you know, people have done. I think people have done a pretty damn good job, at least in my area in Delaware and in Pennsylvania from what I've heard from the people that I know. They are my family in particular. Amen, Man, I can't see them being nice and playing nice again, particularly if if you hit them right before the holidays. I just that's worst case scenario in my head right now, is what the fuck? I think you're gonna see that. I hate to say it, but I think you are gonna see that. And I think a suggestion. Now, I'm not telling people to go out and panic by, but I've realized with just the what the couple months since November, I think really December is really when I started cutting back on how much it's going out anyways, and they'll definitely the last two months, I've really not gone anywhere, but I've been able to watch how it's impacted our supply. So to our listeners, yes, I have. Noticed a price increase on your common goods and it's only been to probably get worse if we have the same issues we have the last few years in the Midwest with our major crops on top of the meat shortage. Go ahead and start restocking your stuff or add into it. Now they're not limiting and goods at the moment. You can still get can goods again. Now I'm not trying to scare anyone, but go ahead and get some extra because if it hits that come December or November or whatever it is, Like James is saying, the last thing you want to do is being that person trying to go out and grab that one crappy can of peas or beans or whatever it is on the shelf. But I mean, honestly, you can buy rice and flour again. Go ahead and buy and put it up. We know how to. I mean, then that way we're not having to fight the people who have no clue how to even store these goods. I mean, I was finally able to go in and buy five little containers of peanut butter. Believe or not, you wouln't believe how excited I was to have those, because that's what I eat. At work, peanut butter and celery sticks, car it or. So here you have five preppers Okay, sitting around this is what James said is barstool talk, right, So we're all sitting around, we're just chatting. And what are we chatting about? The next food? The food and putting up food. And it's all focused on food. So it's not that you want to scare anybody. It's just that we're talking about making food, preserving food, storing food. Uh. You know, we got we got chickens now, which we've never had, and all we're doing is producing chickens so we can have chicken because the last two times we went out, there was no chicken at Costco and no chicken at Walmart. Right, I mean that's just our area and that's just what we saw. But my wife's good, right. I think that's great that you're doing that. I really do. Uh. The fun part is, even for all of y'all in the chat or even on on here with me, is how many of y'all are going to take in the chickens of the people who don't who just bought all those chicks and don't realize they won't start laying until they're six months old. Oh yeah, yeah, that's you can get three roosters on prigs list, yeah. And the roosters are the ones you want to eat. And you got all these people who don't have a clue about chickens. I actually had a couple come in to tract Or Supply was picking up I was picking up something for the chickens I had, and oh for the duck. I have a miscovie duck. And these people started asking this employee, well, how much does that coop hold? Well? And she goes, Honestly, I don't know, and I was like, well, I can chime in, and I started telling them information about the coup they have about the chickens. They had no clue. They apparently bought like twelve chickens or chicks and had no clue how much the coop held. I told them approximate from what the size was. You know what the time span on these coops that you buy from Tractor Supply are. I mean, they were just asking all these questions. I even guided them to the network because she's she's into prepping or learning about prepping. And I was like, it was great to have that network, but it goes to show at least they were willing to ask questions. You'd be surprised the number of people I've seen coming in and then coming back later from those employees who have no clue what the heck they're doing. Yeah, here is another thing. Okay, go ahead, Well those those during coops, they show it tractor supply, so they should come with a warning label that they are not raccoon proof. Or they are not moldproof. You have to treat them to keep them from get mold. We actually left out and got a big coop for like fifty dollars that was exposed to whether I have to replace one door. The coop that they have on display in tractor supply is covered in mold, and it's never been outside and it. Is covered in mold. See yeah, so I mean people don't realize the shelf life on these coops also aren't but a couple of years then expect to make repairs and build something a little more permanent. They will fall apart on you. Yeah. You know. The other big factor in the fall, as perilous as it's sounds and as almost conspiratorial as it sounds, is the idea that I have to imagine the people who are heading up these states and have the power to shut down things again are going to be are gonna be pushing to affect the election in some way, right, because we've never lived through a time like this where so many people have just they're willing to do almost anything to get Donald Trump out of office. And if we can convince the public that they have to shelter in place again in the fall and then they have to vote online, how how wacky could things get if we have some kind of first time ever online election in the fall. I mean, it just that is another terrifying situation, you know it, And it's almost not it almost doesn't scare me as much from the standpoint of the election itself, but it terrifies me to think what could happen following election like that if you find out that somehow Joe Biden wins and the people are so disenfranchised because that guy is like, uh, you know, he's like a scarecrow, and somehow he pulls through and wins the election, and nobody's gonna trust the results either way. You know, It's another just terrifying. Thing, another little fact. You know, I'm full of these during little tidbits that just fly out of my head. So if Biden wins the election, he will be older than Ronald Reagan was when he left office. I believe it. I believe it. I wouldn't care how old the guy was. I care that he can't even keep his eyes open. That's what I care about, you know what I mean. I mean, the age is no big deal to me, but geez, yeah, it's a terrifying thing to look at that man and think, what is There's nobody, nobody in the media, nobody in the Democrat Party has stood up to say, what if we've done? What have we done? Did Trump pay somebody to make this guy his opponent? I mean, it's like you paid somebody. It's like, if you could set it up perfect, if you were setting up a boxing match, who would you want. You would want Joe Biden in the in the opposing corner. And that's what Donald Trump has. It's insane. It's just all none of it adds up, and it all leads me to this sort of fall fiasco that I am really starting to get worried about. But that was the whole point of the EPC. That was the whole point of kind of what what we started all way back then? And uh, you know, the big the biggest takeaway from every everyone. Whatever one is saying tonight is don't fall into the pitfall of I have my preps and I'm using my preps because it's a crisis, because you're right in that. But the thing about prepping is that you have to prep through the crisis too, you know. It's it's not like, Okay, it's crisis time. I'm not leaving, I'm not doing anything. I'm not Everything stops and we just start chewing through our resources and supplies. No way. Now we have to keep the ball rolling or things will run out, you know, and you don't want things to run out in wave two with an election with a I mean, who knows in the fall where we're going to be with China. The fall is worrying me, man, the fall is really worrying me. Maybe we get it all my supplies, would you say, Jordan. I've started using up some of my what i'd call my acts supplies. So now than be, we are getting close towards touching the reserves, which is now my time to re stalk our active and rotate out, which I knew about how long we could go on just active, which is fine, but because of everything else that we're luckily going into a season where here, pretty soon my garden's going to be producing, so I can then take push back some of my can goods so then I can get ready to eat fresh and then. Start canning fresh. Sure. Oh yeah, and then like right now, I'm. I've got actually probably over five dozen eggs at my fridge right now, I'll probably got more than that. I like the sounds of it, but yeah, it's about thing. Keep it really is. I have learned myself. Okay, I've used up some and went into my reserves and I used it up, which means now I need to supplement. So people take for me definitely, if you think you have enough, you probably don't because I thought I had enough of one thing. You'd be surprised how much you can go through something just in a few months. Or you don't realize how much your family eats something until you've gone through it completely. That's another great concept because there you may turn your you may set your sights on using something more. You eat, You store what you eat, right, that's the basics of it all, but you may not understand how much of it you might eat. The best example is rice. You know that we eat rice like. Crazy beans in our house. Yeah, exactly right, and that stuff just starts to go like you buy a fifty pounds bag of rice and you're like, how the hell did we eat fifty pounds of rice? You know what I mean? Rice? Beans? I think green beans is a big one that really hit us. But beans, you do MEAs really. We do do black eyed peas, but not as often. We probably do a lot more fried beans. So we actually ran through beans in a certain seasons pretty quick. Yeah. Man, this stuff goes goes fast. What else? What are we missing? Sam? You with us still? I'm here? What do you think we're missing on. This sham showing us pictures of her chicken fortress? Missing out on this? Yeah? I have chicken invY. I know we've had a lot of chicken pans. It took a while to get to that point because we just say, have changed a lot over the farm over the years, and we had this little barn up in the vineyard and chain link, and so we created the chicken wing. Matt built the chicken wing and then there's this chicken like chain link. It looks all I needs Razor warreness, a light that looks like. It is amazing though it is are gantuous and I love it. I am very envious. My girlfriend has an open field or open area and she has big o' dog pins is what she's using as separate chicken pins to separate each of her chickens. And that's amazing. I'm jealous above y'all. That just oh man, we. Had bobcats last year, like get a lot of geese and stuff and the dogs. See we could put the dogs around that barn too, and that's nice just to guard it. It's I just don't want to lose them because it's probably be hard to replace chickens right now. We have an incubator. Oh it's impossible. We're told we can't get chicks until sometime in June and then it's a first come, first serve, even if you are on the list. Yeah, I don't know what's really short at grocery stores are around here any sake, because I still haven't been to one, so I don't know. I just don't know. I think it's pretty pretty like meat, maybe a little bit. They had these big chicken sales at various places where like House of Rayford I think it was called. I think they mostly do the restaurant business. But they would just pull up and sell like forty pound boxes of chicken for thirty five dollars or something. So people thought a lot of that, and some people complained because they're like, I could only get drumsticks. But it's like, well, you're paying less than a dollar a pound for chicken. I wouldn't complain too much about that. But you didn't have to get out of your car, So I think that helped alleviate some of it. But going into fall and such, I think there's just gonna be various types of shortages and stuff. But the articles I just did was on just the household goods because there was a lot of stuff in this country when this started. But we're going to start running through those containers. It's going to be the electronics, it's going to be I've see some of the lists from people that work at Walmart when stuff's gonna get restocked, and it's terrible. The sewing machines. Sewing machines are absolutely unavailable to every time I've talked to the Walmart staff, they said they cannot keep them. They can't even stalk them online because they're they're gone. They're not going to get any more for about four months. Yeah, it's and they're host of fabric for those who enjoy sewing has gone up immensely if they're simple fat square for those who know what I'm talking about, or square normally would pay ninety seven cents. Now you're paying two dollars for just one single quarter square. Holy crap. So it's it's gone up quite a bit. So your one yard of fabric that you should buy pre cut went from two dollars four dollars. So there is definitely a price increase on your basic stuff. Ohlectronics is gonna be a big issue too. If anybody needs a wireless card or something like that, they better get it now because. Oh, big screen TVs are sold out up at the Walmart here, they said people about their stimulus checks. It was big screen TVs, TV players. And uh something else. It wasn't laptops, surprisingly enough. Yeah, there you go, so you get your stimulus check. And of course you can't eat a big screen TV come the winter time. No, it doesn't even burn. Put spices like spices is a big deal, people, don't. I mean there's all this you know, flood that we've got put back, like rice and uh and such. You've got to be able to spice it. Black peppercorns, most of them are grown in India. M And I know you're not gonna get a pound of peppercorns in the last forever. But things like that, we just thinking about what the textiles like sheets and socks. We grow a lot of cotton here, but that doesn't mean that the cotton doesn't go over to India and get woven in and stuff. You know, it's funny that you say that, because I have actually probably spent a good little chunk of change recently on fleeces, which I need to get some from you too. I need to purchase something. I bought some marino. I actually have a girlfriend who traded me somealpaka. I'm gonna get my hands on some lama, and then I have some romney. I'm trying different fibers, and then I've got a loom. So I am working on what I can do to start producing more of my own textiles in my home, whether it be me quilton, weave in crochet, and you know, it's it really is trying to produce what I can for the winter, because. God knows wool socks are amazing. If anyone's ever had one hundred percent wool socks, they breathe believe it or not, sermais and Adela Angra and your feet are toasty. Yeah. Winter clothing is something that right now you can get it for pennies on the dollars too. I mean I thought it. Yeah, if anybody has any little extra, you can get your winter clothes right now for about seventy percent off. I think I paid like twenty five cents a shirt at Walmart for some thicker, long sleeve almost thermal type shirts and sweats. I think I paid like twenty five cents a pair of sweatpants. Yeah. Some of the online retailers are very desperate, like Coals. I never go into a cold store, but I've been shopping at them online because right now you can get and they give you so much money back that your second order is really cheap. So you wind up on your second order get in a Columbia Fleef for fifteen bucks or something instead of sixty right, things like is it not cheap, No, and it's very but it's cheaper than what you get at the dollar store Walmart. When you got in your coupons and stuff like right now, so and hats, just anything that you need for winter time. If you have a little extra, you can save a lot because it might be a lot higher than an average come winner. Like you have to insulate yourself from rising costs because things like microwaves and such. Okay, if people are selling on eBay, if there's a shortage of something and they put some for auction on eBay, they're not price gouging. If that auction goes up, they can start fifty bucks. And if some rich person wants to pay five hundred dollars for the microwaves that you or I would have paid seventy five for, they can outbit us and we're out of luck. Right So anything like that, Yeah, we're going to compete with people that have unlimited funds. It doesn't mean anything to them to pay absorbent prices, right and pay attention. Oh sorry, go ahead, that's okay. I have this report. I wanted to know what James is going to do with it. Where's he going to post it? Because there's a whole vitamin protocol in there. It turns out that this disease, as we learn more about it, it's more about the blood than it is about the lungs. So looks like a mosquito. Yeah, he gets into the blood and does different things. It's that ACE two receptor which is located in a lot of places, including the lungs. Now, it may get in through the lungs and the mucous membranes of the you know, the lining of the passageways, but it affects your liver, your heart, all kinds of organs inside your body. Because it seems to be a blood type thing. So this report that I have and I've been talking about it is and you can google it. Anybody out there listening, you can google it. But I provided James the PDF copy. It's called the ev MS Critical Care COVID nineteen Management Protocol. Is it the same as your vitamin protocol? Well, a little different, but pretty much the same. So on the like the second or third page, it's just a thirteen page report. It comes from the university. Where's this that in Eastern Virginia Medical University, Eastern Virginia, Norfolk, Virginia. The chief of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicines. Okay, this is the and right here on the report it says urgent. Please circulate as the widest possible circulation. It is critical that this gets to pulmonary pull pullman relogists. But with the heart, Every critical yeah, pulmonologist, every critical care doctor and nurse, and every hospital administrator and every public health official received this information immediately, and it's the reason why they didn't need all the ventilators in New York. Okay, remember when this first started and it was all about ventilators. It's not about the lungs, and they're actually finding out that if you put ventilated air into people's lungs, you break them. So it's about the blood. And there's a vitamin protocol in here. So prophylactis is five hundred milegrams of vitamin C and two hundred and fifty to five hundred zinc okay, which we talked about zinc before, and they recommend the zinc lozengers because it's between seventy five and one hundred milligrams of zinc. For some reason, they put malatinum in there. But I think it's our melatonin. Sorry, I have to decipher from what publish calls it melatonin, and I think it's to get good sleep. I'm not sure what that is for. But then vitamin D one thousand to four thousand units per day. That's interesting. They go from milligrams to international units, so they're using two different measures, which is kind of strange. But this is the prophylactic. If you don't have any symptoms and you're just going about your normal day, this is what you should be taken on a daily basis. And then if you start getting symptomatic, if you start getting some symptoms, they say vitamin C five hundred milligrams, zinc seventy five to one hundred milatinum, melatonin, sorry, and then vitamin D one thousand to four hundred, and then they say optional an aspirin an eighty one milligram aspirin to three hundred and twenty. Yes, yes, aspirin is a blood thinner. Sure, yeah, So what this thing has been doing is putting clots in little places in the lungs and all through your body. There's been people that have had blood clots, and then there's this thing called covid toes and it's the absence of circulation in the very small veins in your body. Blood has been clotting. And then they also say hydroxy color quin if you're in the early stages, early symptomatics. So it's a very good report. It gives people some action that they can do right now. And when they get the disease. They also say get a pulse ox pulse ox meter. They say, have that on hand at home, which we said that two weeks and weeks ago. Yeah, we're gonna. Put it up. I just put it up on Facebook. I just put it up on our Discord server under the COVID nineteen heading. So go ahead and get it. What I'll do tomorrow is I'll shoot it out as a protocol to follow through our newsletter also and hit that group. So Facebook, Discord and email list. If you you are listening to the podcast and you are not over on Facebook, discord or the mailing list, shame on you. So can I mention another shortage? Yeah, but it's not food, so it's medicine. Oh, most definitely. So he mentioned the hydroxy chloroquin, which we will are now finally able. To purchase outside of hospitals. They're actually making the hospitals return all the hydroxychloroquin because there's been so many studies that are actually against it, or I guess the information isn't definitive enough to say it works one hundred percent or it doesn't, but that that drug itself has more than tripled in price. We have seen your simple drugs such as zolofts. For those who don't know name brand, it's certraline. It's used as an antidepressant. It's helped to increase this mood. That for us. If anybody has noticed as an increase in prices, because these medications have almost tripled, frippled in price, I mean it's gotten very hard. We finally were just able to get a certain type of sole off that we haven't been able to get a Bilify. I was finally able to get a Bilify again as well, which is Eric Pippersal. So keep in mind that. These shortages do not just affect our food industry or our goods industry. It also affects our medication. And I am seeing it hard. My cart iss tell them a Sartain. I can't get it right now. The few I can get are so ridiculously expensive that I'm trying to wait till last minute before I have to purchase them because I know which patients are on them. So keep in mind if you see a price a price increase. It is not the pharmacy trying to do one over on you. It's because the prices have gone high that it affects how we have to build them. So I have seen. Order just oh, Valsartan is absolutely unattabable. If you're on vow Sartan, talk to your doctor. You may need to see if you can be put on a different. Type of medication. Formatiting fomodity. Believe it or not, we have just now started to be able to get it. Most of the pharmacies can't get it at all, even your big box store pharmacies. So it is definitely something to look at your medication. I know, I preach it time and time again. Pay attention to what you're on. If you can get ahead on your pills, do so. A lot of pharmacies are not doing ninety days supply still, so if you're lucky enough, then that's great, But elsewise, just keep an eye out because your medication and your health is just as much just as important as being able to feed yourself, because there's a lot of medication people cannot come off of. So sorry, and there's my little. Rant on meds, but I have seen a lot of meds, both normal blood pressure and cholesterol meds as well stomach meds and mental health meds unavailable. When I know a lot of our listeners are military or former military, the VA will do ninety days. So if you can get in the fantastic yeah, and if you can get it, get it for ninety days. See, we'll do ninety days. But we try to take care of our patients as much as possible. But I know, like Walgreens and CBS at the moment are not doing them here. I don't know about anywhere else. It's all very interesting, isn't it. This is a weird It's such a weird event that it just touches almost everything. You know, It touches almost every layer of our life. And I think one of the biggest takeaways from this, at least where we're at now, I don't know if it's going to be. You know, who knows what it's going to be. Nobody really knows. We just look ahead and you know, use the evidence we have now to assume we know what's going to happen in the future. But I've been ending these casts with the same message about it being a tremendous time for personal transformation. You know, it really is a great time to, particularly if you're listening to this podcast on a whim, to really sit down and reevaluate and say, you know, what do I really want to be doing with my life? Should I be doing more of this preparedness stuff? Should I be doing more this growing of food and raising of chickens's? I have these little baby australrps that are running around and I can't keep them in the yard. And they're running around in the front yard, which is not the end of the world in my neighborhood. But you know, people are walking by and they see them, and they have all kinds of questions and all kinds of desires, and now's the time to really consider living out those desires rather than just watching other people do it or listen to other people do it. You know, anybody have anything else before we call it quits on this one. Well, James, I'd like to shut up the interview. All right, yeah, Okay, let's let's do a quick vote since we have a good bunch of people. Because something kind of something kind of popped into my head about the interview. Should I run it? Should we run it as a standalone interview with Tim because it's thirty minutes. It's more than long enough to be a podcast on its own, and it's probably going to get buried an hour and a half into the show. You're right, you know, And what he has to say is it's from a survivalist. Okay. I think it is very important that the people listen to it. So where are you going to put it? Well, I think I'm just going to post it as an episode of your show. Okay, what do you think about that? Yeah, you want me to record an introduction. That's completely up to you. Well I should, because we just started talking and I hit the record button. I said, I said, wait, Tim, wait, let's let's do this on the interview. And I hit the button. We just started talking. I mean, I could always say interview between Dave Jones and well, we'll talk about it offline howeveryone is set it up. But I think it deserves a spot on its own. Okay, I agree. I agree. When I seen Sam get In and Jordan get In, I said, you know what, we're gonna have a good time tonight. We're probably gonna talk for a long time, so better to give him his spotlight than bury him at the at the hour and a half plus mark. You know, people are like, God, there's this thing, and I don't want to hear from a new guy. You are saying, we'll do a short show tonight. You know, if you listen to my show. Everybody who listens to the I'm Liberty Show should not be surprised in that one. I've been guilty of that many times. But all right, folks, another COVID cast in the books. I may try to get. Don't worry about it. Another COVID cast in the books. We're gonna keep them coming as long as it makes sense. Yeah, you know, things just keep happening. Let us know wherever you can, let us know, if you email, if you however you communicate with us. We get a lot of communications from a bunch of different people. But we're getting to the point now where I'd like to kind of know. You know, the COVID casts in the past were really easy to focus on. Death rate is growing, infection rate is growing. Rate in the United States is growing. What's coming? Right? I don't want to spend the next month or two months talking about reopen. So if you have something that you would like to hear discussed on the COVID cast in the coming week, let us no tell us in discord, tell us in you know, and maybe even send me a private message because you got to make sure I'm paying attention. Or let Jordan know and Jordan shul She'll stay on me, trust me, We'll make sure she'll make sure that that gets taken care of. One of my favorite qualities of her. But uh well, I need it though. You know it helps me because I got a million in my head for me in terms of the Prepper broadcasting network and prioritizing things. It is a great quality. I appreciate you, folks. We will talk soon next Monday, no doubt Tomorrow night is the Double Barrel. Oh no, Tomorrow night is not the Double Barrel. Actually, the guys from the Patriot Power Hour taking the night off, they're going to be tentatively they're going to be doing their show on Wednesday night. I didn't read the latest email, but I think they're going to jump to Wednesday night because they want they have to take the day off Tuesday day. But those guys, man, they don't ever want to be off, so they might be on before the I am Liberty Show. I'll shore that as. A right, okay, and I'll do the daily audio cash more. I would not doubt it. I do appreciate that though, but sure, I think that's about it. Folks. I appreciate you, and we'll talk soon. Thank you for listening to the Prepper Broadcasting Network, where we promote self reliance and independence. Tune in tomorrow for another great show, and visit us at prepperbroadcasting dot com.