FOIL FRIDAY: The 4th Turning w/ Dave Jones and Chin Gibson

To oppose to and fight for the rights are creator bestowed us in the United States Constitution. We are the proper broadcasting network. Well, hello, everyone out there on the internet radio land, let me get this volume right here. I want to blow your ears up. This is Dave Jones, the NBC guy. How you doing. I hope everybody out there in radio listening land is doing great. And if you're tuning in to US live, we have a new chat room, and I have the old chat room up and there's no one in there, so we're doing good. We're doing good, and there's someone in the new chat room, so we're working on it. I have a very special guest tonight, and this is a very special show because I have not had this many show notes and I don't know how long. So first let me bring in the special guest. He is someone that should be should have no introduction whatsoever, because he is our Lucius Fox Jin Gibson. He is a fetcher at Prepper Camp. He's been a long time listener PBN, and he is the man that did so much amazing work on the Discord channel for US during COVID and the gun rally in Virginia and they've got banned from Discord. I don't know if he got banned for life, but he got kicked off and now he's working on the Element for us. So that's what I mean when I say we have a new chat room. It's the Element. We're in there right now, Lucky. He's in there, Jen's in there, and Chin is in there. And the great thing about Element is that we won't lose the chat. So if you post something in chat, we can go back to it if there's blinks that come up the old PBN chat, Uh, it went away when when you were done and you signed out, all that information was lost. Yes, he is truly a wizard. Chin. Can you hear me? Chin's up? What's up? He Chin's up? And I can hear you. Can they hear us? That's the question that should be question, Do they want to hear it? Lucky give us a thumbs up if you can hear us in the chat? Okay, I'm telling you we had some technical difficulties, and I'm sure it was on my end because I have spotty Internet at best, an older computer that I broadcast on, and being there with my phone, someone's texting me. I did nothing I'm innocent. It's Alex. I'm going to silence this he's upstairs and send a message downstairs. Welcome to the Modern Family. Okay. So I'm going to assume that we're live and people can hear us because I clicked the live button and not the record button, which is always a good start. Okay. So tonight's show, we got Chin on because we had we were going to talk about the fourth turning. Okay, but before we do that, I want to talk about some some other stuff. Oh. It says Dave's sound is a little choppy, and when we were testing it out today in all the different variations, the only way we could get it to work is if Dave's sound was a little choppy. And since Chin is the special guest star tonight, I said I can live with that. So I'm not going to be talking about anything all that much important. So we're just gonna have to go with the choppiness. Chin. I have a couple questions to ask you before we get started in the fourth turn Oh, and then we're going to review. My neighbor has some bug out bags and a bug out vehicle, and he asked me, excuse me, He asked me to check it over and give an opinion. And this was just this afternoon, and I said, do you mind if we talk about it on a show tonight and he said no, great, And this way you guys can hear what we're talking about why, and in the chat room you can give us more suggestions if there's something we miss, you know, because you know, more heads are better than one. Especially when my to Cabby chid Chi, I wanted to ask you, did you do any special preps or changes to your preps or change your parties since COVID started. I bought a lot of masks, uh. Or yes, chemical protecting masks. Or well, I just did ninety five Okay, I kind of I I it toorried everything all over again. Yeah, And then we did a hard rotation on our stocks, so I bought a lot of new stuff. While I still like that the first couple of weeks when when we were all saying it's coming down the pike before the government told us it was coming down the pike, Yes, I did a lot of restocking and then rotated the old stocks up to the top, just to refresh everything. And since then I have not since we've still been able to restock. I've been just basically doing a pretty standard shopping bi weekly or so, so I don't touch anything. I mean, at first, we didn't know how bad the lockdown it was going to be, so we kind of wanted to get everything in order. And then as it never since, we could still get things, get items. We're doing a lot of like mail order stuff, a lot of the grocery stores and stuff will delivered to the house. I never really went without. We just couldn't go in person the purchase. So I as long as I could get it coming in, I kept it coming in. So we weren't blinishing any of our stocks, depleting any of our stocks. So that's kind of what we did. I beefed up a bunch of just over the counter meds and stuff. To my wife and I are fairly healthy, so we didn't have to worry about prescriptions or anything. So he just kind of beefed up everything, reviewed everything, and then didn't touch anything and kept living our lives. Yeah, and when we think back when that first started. Okay, two things that you said there that I got to point out to the listeners. If you are listening Prepper Broadcasting Network, you will get some early warning. And I mean we talked about this in January before it was on anybody's radar, and I remember talking to James about it and he said, do you think we should do a show on it? And I said, well, the death toll isn't quite there yet. So he put up a show by Doc Doc Bones Nurse Amy, which was really really good. And that's how far back is. But when you say how far back, that's only been seven months, it seems. Like it seems like a decade. Yeah. Yeah. When this first started, I expected to see checkpoints and police stopping vehicles because they put us on lockdown. And I'm like, you know, first of all, I didn't want to go anywhere, and then when we did decide to venture, man, we were practically in full full month here. We've been lucky, actually, so my job has allowed me to telework, so I shifted from an office worker to a teleworker, and I have teilwork since the middle of March, and we have I have only been in a tractor supply once, and I've been in an auto mechanics uh twice, two different vehicles that I was getting, you know, some just stuff that needs. To because you didn't have yeah, able to say, hey, aren't weaving on games? Sam? Yeah? Sam b had had put the you know, throw down the gauntlet. I'm like, well heck, if she could stay cooped up, I'm doing now. Yeah. Yeah, but no, we figured if we if we don't have to expose ourselves, let's just play it safe. And I mean we've gone. We took a long vacation, long weekend vacation kind of away to get out of town. But even then it was like to a secluded you know, go hiking and just kind of grab fresh air, but not be around anyone. So yeah, we're taking it serious. So what we did we changed our priorities of some preps. Okay, so we Yeah, what got us was the organized finally Okay, we got everything inventoried up on shelves. We we really really got our crap together. And that's that's what I'm feeling good about. We know exactly where we are and pretty much exactly what we need. So that was correct. Hey, did you do anything special for the Riots. Other than just before again, just before lockdown, I was in a sporting good store and at that time they had some some precious metals on sale on sale. No way, I made a purchase. I came over and shout it to the wife and this is how much I'm a lucky guy. But she goes, well, should you get more? Oh? I never get that. Oh yeah, I can't really. Get what the heck did you get that for? You know, it's never a good idea to. Its Yeah, I know, well yeah, yeah, to be smart, we're smarter, not harder. Yeah, I can't work hard enough around here. The war cracking the whip man. I am beat I am beat down. I know we were we were talking this morning and all of a sudden you had to be quiet because someone was coming down the stairs. Yeah, you got found out. I did, so, you know, I two people have asked me about body armors, so I started checking in body armor. This is for the riots, okay, yeah, and uh man, it is what it's gone. It's yeah. Uh so is everything else? Yeah? Have you seen have you seen like firearms are like twenty two is the biggest caliber that I've seen on like ads and stuff right now. All the all the other stuff is pretty it's stuff for really obscure manufacturers. Yeah. Yeah, so if you didn't what is PBN proper Broadcasting Network. Oh it's he is in the chat. Okay, everybody on their best behavior, that's right. Straighten up now. So you were saying about body armor. Yeah, there's a guy that makes it and I think it's in Tennessee. He has a plasma cutter and he actually makes it and dips it in that rubber and he got on his website, please allow four weeks for delivery. And I'm like, wait a minute, you're making it out of your you know, shop there, and he must be so backlogged on orders that he had to put this stuff on the website. And ceramic plates if you could find him at them, because they're they're non existent and you just can't you cut them out of steel. They have to be really made. Another thing that came up was Fortitude Ranch is opening up for the election, so it's the first time ever they're opening up for members there. Also, we're doing preper training at forty two Ranch. We have never done this before. Two weekends ago, we brought members in, we trained them up and they got tactical training, how to move, how to camouflage, all that kind of stuff. We went over procedures for the ranch. What will happen different scenarios. And they're doing this again in the Colorado location. So if anybody's interested in getting some top notch prepper training, google four to Tude Ranch. It's at the end of August. Members get it for free. Other people have to pay for it, So if you're thinking about a membership, this might push over the edge. Also, they're opening up two new locations, one in Tennessee and one in Nevada. Of course we're still in Wisconsin. I don't know what that is. Someone put out of too much coffee. I guess it looks like a dead bug. They put it in a shack room. So that's my for Fortitude Ranch. You know, if if you're looking for a good plan. B Yep, there's nothing better than actually getting off a static range and learning walking through doing this training. It's way different than you know indoor ranges or you're your local like community outdoor static range moving and shooting is is is a skill to learn. And we all we all Sunday we went out and shot R E R S and it's it's a clear Yeah, it's a multi level range, so you got to shoot up and down in all different levels. So and then we we critiqued what we did so that you got better and better, and it was it was really really a good, good amount of training. Hey, and I got something down here. It says truck parts from China. Okay, now you have a story about truck parts, right. Yeah. So I had I had one of my vehicles, did a little uh accessorizing too, and you know, and I had I had matchboxes with I'm a kid and now I have bigger toys to play with as an adult. But so I was in there talking and the guy at the counter was like, you know, you got in just in time. And I had placed my order about three weeks ago, and he said, I am having problems getting parts. He goes, I got a guy supposed to come in today or this was yesterday, supposed to come in today. And he goes, I'm trying to track the parts and they're not. We don't know when they might come in next week, We don't know. So they're starting, you know, it's it's trickling down to even like the four wheel drive, you know, four by four aftermarket parks, you know, and accessories are starting to that's start to try out. But whatever happened to Whitney, right, could you imagine that? I remember that as a kid man. That's awesome. Yeah, So I have a story like that too. It's one in the home depot and every one of their appliances has us a paper stuck on it. So I go over to see what the paper is, you know, and it says not available at this time. So there's and it was on every appliance everyone. Now, they had some that were out in the aisle that were clearanced, like last year's model, you know, scratching dent. But that was the only thing that you could actually buy at our home depot here in Winchester, Virginia. So how are the prices with scratching dent marked. Or scratching dent were marked down? Hey, and speaking prices, have you noticed the price on just about everything is going up? Yeah? It was outrageous. Gas is not going up, so that can't be the reason. You know, I haven't bought gas. I mean, I know is still under two. In whatever whatever since March. I've only put like one tank of gas between two cars. Yeah, because I just don't drive. I mean, we run over to check on family, you know, some older family members and occasionally just to you know, check on them or give them a little care package or something. But we're not driving around town. Yeah, that same here, and you know I practically when we go to home depot back. I mean, yeah, okay, so I guess we better get on to the main subject. Huh twenty minutes. Well, yeah, hey, and I want to tell you to get over to Prepper Broadcasting and sign up as a member. We have an exclusive member's only side to Prepper Broadcasting and if you sign up, you will get access to a whole bunch of the videos. I have a spreadsheet that's going to go in there on bugout bags. So if you want to see what we're going to review tonight on the show, you will be able to get a copy of this spreadsheet, but only on the member's only side. And we're going to evaluate this guy's bug out bag right here on the air later later tonight. So Prepper Broadcasting Network Members only side, you can sign up for a month, try it out. You can sign up for six months, try that out. The best deal is to sign up for a year, and trust me, you want to be in there for a year because this year is going to be so interesting. And you said you had something to say about the election, right. Oh, yeah, yeah, Well everybody's talking about yeah. I mean, no matter who who says they win, Yeah, it's gonna be a fest on the other side, right, the other side. But the wife and I were talking over lunch today and we're like, you know, no matter how fast the returns come back, and we know they're not going to come back fast because of all the mail and stuff and everything else that start talking about. But no matter how fast they come back, if you remember, like well some people, if you can remember, we used to be used to mail stuff back and forth. It would take a couple of days to a week or so to get information from one person to the other, right, And then it was faxes, and now it's emails and texts and chats and everything. And now we get them before it's even like left your mind. The other guy's getting the message what you're trying to say, right, So I think society is so like instantaneous. They need facts right away that even if it's like two day, which we know is gonna be longer to days, but even if it was like a two day delay in getting the reporting back, people are going to go nuts in the streets, don't you think. Can you hear me? I muted myself. It's definitely going to be that way because I remember, you know, when the Bush Gore election, you know, debacle, and it moves Florida and the hanging checks and that the Secretary of State of Florida couldn't count, I mean, not without taking her shoes off or something I don't know, and and it went to the Supreme Court. But I want to point out a fact that it was the Democrats that contested the election. So I think a similar type of play is going to go into effect. But they're going to have. A lot more. Ammunition with this mail in voting to muddy up the waters. And I think that is their objective, is just to muddy up the water. They really, if they could have fixed any election, they would have fixed the last one, and they didn't do it. So I don't think they have the power to sway it. They have health concerns, public health concerns to slow it down, to mess it up. Yeah, it was it's yeah, catastrophe, go to waste. Yeah. So uh. And there's a lot of bluesteak governors out there that are going to be making their own rules, so it's going to be. I mean, I've heard so many of the podcasts and YouTube video channels that I watched have talked about the mail in ballot situation, and Trump was saying, you know, he's trying to get the a debate going before they actually send out the ballots, because it looks like the first debate is going to be weeks several weeks. After after people vote. Yeah, so there's gonna be mail in ballots already lick stamped and put back in the mailbox, hopefully coming back well know who knows. But before people get the heat here, Joe come out of the basement. Well, which really isn't fair, And it just isn't no, I mean no, And I remember voting absentee when I was in the military and then finding out later that they don't. Even crack crack open those unless. The election is close close, And I'm like, holy cow, I've been voting all this time when I was in the military, and my vote never counted, you know. Yeah, Okay, let's get onto the fourth turney. I wonder if I can play a commercial here. Let's see if this works in the chat room. Tell me if you can hear. This here at the Prepper Broadcasting Network. Our mission has expanded and we have decided to use our influence to aid in disaster recovery. PBN is offering up our airwaves to nonprofits and boots on the ground organizations that are affecting disaster recovery. The real people out there rebuilding lives, from organizations that re establish the supply chain, to those who deliver aid, and even organizations that rebuild shattered homes and lives. 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Yay Chin, thank you Chin, thank you for being here. Hey, so here's a start. A few weeks back, I got a one, you know, came up on my feed. You might want to look at this uh thing, this video. So I looked at this video and it was a guy that did precious metal things, and he talked about these two economists that wrote turned it down. I'm deaf, that's the intrepid commander in chat there. I'm sorry, sorry, I gotta play with these levels a little. Anyway. Here here's what I got. This thing and this this guy, this precious metal guy, was talking about these two economists that wrote a book called the Fourth Turning and he uh he explained that these guys uh had examined why the economy goes through a cycle and that periodically we get depressions and booms and things like that. Well, when they started attaching history looking through history and finding this finding it out. They found a cycle, a large predictable cycle that goes back for thousands of years. But we're just going to talk about the United States tonight because we don't want to go back to the fron Empire or anything. Yeah, you might think that this is a crackpot theory, but these two economists are the guys that coin millennial and Generation X. And they wrote this book back in the nineties. Not many people took it seriously because if you remember the nineties dot com whom, you know, things were great and these guys wrote a book about, Hey, things are going to be bad. Yeah ninety seven it came out. Yeah ninety seven. So Chin, I immediately thought of Chin, I said, who can do this justice? And only our own Lucier's box is the is the only one that I found. Sent me down this rabbit hole. Well, I said, I think I sent it to you and said, hey, do you think this is legit? And I knew the YouTube channel because I've watched him before. Oh okay, and yeah, I forget it now, but yeah, so I mean I knew the channel and he said watch this, and I just I think Samuel Kolper with Aford Observer. He had mentioned the the Turnings had done a show on Attorneys so or talked about it in a show. So you know that was like three different people like sources saying you got to read this. So I said, well, I guess I need to go buy the book. So I made you buy the book. Yes, sir, the straw. You were the straw that broke the camera day. So let me let me start by asking you about the premise. The premise for this idea, and it basically is. Generational, right right, Yeah, So basically they they saw, they said, for the most part through history, people look at time in a lineal fashion, you know, like people are born, grow up, die, their kids are born, grow up. You know, it's just generations go one after like a train, just one after this, just straight line. But they saw how it's more like seasonal repetition of a cycle. So they tried to flesh that out, and it's funny how it kind of lined up with their their turnings. The length of the cycle of turnings lined up with the human lifespan, so every eighty to one hundred and ten years, they were saying, is like it goes through this turning, and then that broke down into seasons. So they said the cycle has four seasons and they kind of equated to like summer, fall, winter, spring, right, and those ran about twenty twenty five years each season. And then they will get eighty to one and ten years, so that's a full cycle. And then the seasons are about twenty to twenty five years, So that's where you get generation X, Y and Z. Yeah, then and then the Millennials. Okay, yep, now that the generation that's after the millennials has yet to be named, is that correct? Millennials? Yeah, I don't know what they they kind of well, they kind of stopped. I don't know if there is right now in like pop culture or whatever, but current events, if there's a name for him yet, but they like the book came out in ninety seven, right, so. Name and yeah, Well, and the one guy died. Right, yeah, Because we were just talking pre show, I was like, you know, I never heard too much about the other guy. The how So the authors are William Strauss and Neil Howe. And Howe has been on several current like this year, last year, interviews on like YouTube and stuff, but I haven't seen the William Strauss and so while we were pregaming, I looked it up and he died in two thousand and seven, So he passed away, so that's why we weren't seeing him. So do you do you want to go over the cycles that we're in right now or do you want to go all the way back to the beginning and show how the cycles line up with sure? Yeah, so like the the twenty year just a little background. So they were saying, like the twenty year seasons, yes, you know, like are equate, like the awakening is once is the first season. They equate that to to like our summer where you like it's love and all the you know, everything's blossoming and everything's you know, cranking along. And then after summer, what comes next is fall, and that's like unraveling. They called it the unraveling and that's it brings like arguments and from augmentations and uncertainty, right. And then after fall what comes winter, like the cold, hard stripe of winter, and that's they called that the crisis. And then after winter everybody's cabin fees, they're ready to go, and it's called the high. So and that would be equivalent to our spring, and that's when everything starts rebuilding or the new the new turning is coming around. Hey, do you mind if I post your notes in the chat right now? I'm gonna try this now, everybody that didn't, well. Then I'll just I could just sit back. You'll just read and I'll listen, you. Know, if you have any questions in college. In your questions, yeah, you can see how my mind works, all this highlighting and readlining and yeah. Now he broke down. You're not exactly through the whole book yet, right. Oh, I couldn't. I mean, since this isn't like just reading reading like a prepper fiction novel where you could just like crank through it and we'll sim people be doing to day. It usually takes me your weekend to a week, depending on how much time I got to sit down this book because I'm going so slow because it's so intriguing to me. We only got through four chapters. I only got through just over a third of the book, and we finally said, you know, you and I had to start at least kind of sharing notes so we had something to talk about instead of me just reading, because it ain't gonna all just come out of my head. Yeah, well okay, so you have the four seasons, the awakening, the. Yeah, the four seasons are you're back to that. So it's it's the awakening, the unraveling, and then the crisis. And then the hot. So they started they started at summer. Okay, let me say, Summer is the awakening, Fall is the unraveling, which we're kind of coming out of, and we're getting into the fourth you know, the the crisis. Yeah, okay, then everything after that. So explain to us the history. Uh, do you want to do the cycle that we're in or do you want to go back all the way to the to the beginning of the United States? Because it lines up perfectly? Is it crazy? Yeah? So he So, I said, Dave, you know, because he brought it all the way back to like way back. He's at parts of the book he's talking about almost like biblical times and stuff. So I said, let's just start with the the X cycle cycle. Gosh, I just yeah, So s E A c U l U M. That's what he calls this collection of four turnings. That's like the the that eighty to one hundred year cycle, like the full cycle is like in calendar you would think of the year like the year is a seculum, right, and so the. United States as a country has been through two and. A half three that's it. Well, so he's kind of yeah, he's kind of he kind of they changed a little bit because of how how things were going. It's not the other thing is he said, it's not like a hard science because he like he said, like during the Civil War, things happened a lot quicker than that kind of messed up the whole. It still happened, like they still had the first turning, the high, the awakening, the unraveling, and the crisis. They still but something happened quicker than you know, you know one like fifteen years and and five years for the crisis. The Civil War was the crisis during. That Yeah, during that cycle. Yeah, and so that I often. Go back to the Civil War to think about the times that we're going through right now, because, yeah, those people, their whole way of life was collapsing before the very eyes. And I'm sure that the people of the South when Sherman did his march, didn't see they really thought, you know, the apocalypse was upon them. So if you just look at that, so they said, well, eighteen sixty to eighteen fifty was the fourth turning, the crisis turning of the Civil War cycle, right, And so they had they have that lining up with they had a presidential election where Southerners we're trying, we're starting to get the mood of succession. And there was a trigger with the Fort Sumter and. Yeah, Fort, the actual secession started when Abraham Lincoln was elected elected. Right, that's what I said, the presidential election. And twenty years the abolitionists, I mean, it was going down this path for like twenty years before the firing on forts out. There, right, they go ahead. Yeah, so they well they said that the whole, the whole. So that cycle, they said started in seventeen eighty four, right, and that was the high time to feel good, the air of social harmony and empire building, and that's you know, that's when they were saying, like we were settling new territories and you know, canals and steamboats and turnpikes and that, you know, you know, going out west and everything. So civil disorder was rare, they were saying. So that was kind of the notes that I put in for that. So it went, you know, it followed and then they said they had an awakening, and that's when they started to see like there's some slavery bolts, right, and that peaked in eighteen thirty one with the Turner Rebellion, right, Yeah. And. So you could see where things were starting, like the whole utopia thing is starting to decline, decline, yeah, and people are were starting to feel unrest. And so now after the Civil War we have reconstruction, yeah, and then the Industrial Revolution yeah, and then and then the Roaring twenties, which you know, it was unbelievable prosperity for everybody, and then what happened? But then, well they had the prohibition, right that shuts down the twenties. Yeah, because the twenties seemed like well, heck, you know, sex, drugs and rock and roll or whatever. What was the what was the big band and stuff? It wasn't Yeah, it wasn't rock and roll, but it was all different music. But yeah, so that kind of got shut down with prohibition. Yeah, but it just went underground. Yeah, I mean bootlegging. That you know, speak easy about this topic. Oh yeah. So after that came the Great Depression yep, which worldwide economic collapse and you know, an interesting thing and I thought of this just before the show. There was a psychologist that was teaching us. Actually it was through a video when I was the trooper and they were trying to teach us how to communicate with people. And and he broke it down like this, He said, you are what you are because of who you were when. Yes, and that was another part. Did you see my notes about that? Yes? And and and that is so true because people that lived through the Great Depression. Uh my, my. First father in law, he did not trust banks. He did who does, well, you shouldn't trust him nowadays. But I mean growing up, you know, I got I got married in seven the toaster right exactly. He didn't put all these money in the bank. He put enough money in the bank, you know, to write a check or something like that. He kept his money in the house. Uh My mom would save bread bags, the plastic bread bags and these. It made an indelible impression on these people that lasted an entire lifetime. Well that's what they called. So the book calls that markers, right, yeah, so the markers leave, like you said, lifelong impressions on a person. And it depends it's different for every person, depending on what age, that marker is set into their memory, right, so a child might have a different you know, it might create a different marker on a child, a different memory on a child. And then as we age, how we deal with situations in our future, we pull off of our past experiences, right exactly. So that's how that's kind of like you say, it's a cycle, it just repeats, but it's not a perfect copy xerox copy of itself. Because as each generation is at a different point in their lifespan, when a marker hits, it will create a celestial what they called like the generational the way the generations are stacked at a certain time, it's called it's like a celestial pattern. And so that that'll affect how like society as a collective reacts to events, you know what I mean. Well, now let's talk about what we're seeing right now and what they predicted in the book for us to see right now, because you sent me that page, let me see if I can find it. It was like, holy cow, uh, I mean you predicted that the pandemic, you know, which, which is pretty unbelievable. What else did they predict? Well, I mean they there they were saying that with the with the cycles. So they were saying, okay, so the current, the current uh seleucul that word that I can't pronounce that we're in right now. It's called the millennium. Right. So we had like the revolutionary one for the American Revolution when we were founded, then the Civil War, and then the great powers went like America was like the great power in the world, right right, and then now we're in the millennium millennial and we are currently two thousand. They were predicting between two thousand and five and twenty twenty six was going to be the fourth turning, hence the name of the book. It was going to be the fourth turning of the millennial millennial selecqualium. Yeah, and so this we are currently well into because twenty six they were, you know, they thought would be the end of this fourth turning. So that's six years away, right yeah. So that's if you follow along with this and you believe in it. That's why we're seeing so much crazy going on right now because we're deep in the heart of this fourth turning. We're in the winter, right yeah, So everything's starting to get tough, and they. They predicted the pandemic, the riots, the civil unrest, and this was back in the nineties. And then there was something else that caught my mind. And I'm trying to think it wasn't the tsunami or the hurricane. It was something else, but it was like a major natural disaster. I'm like, how does our generation create a natural disaster like that? But you had pointed out that all the stuff that's happened, you know, Katrina and the revolt that they had because you know, Bush didn't do enough, and Bush. Well, that's because people died. I mean the book. The book was published in ninety seven, so really this current cycle that we're in, they were just projecting. So I after after I stopped reading and I started just kind of like researching. I went through the years where they kind of stopped, like I started two thousand and five through and I just tried to post a whole bunch of major events per year. So like two thousand and five was Katrina, well both the bush W's second term, but so I just tried. Yeah, like the Spanish flu was in two thousand and five. Yeah, there's a Spanish virus. Yeah, the Avian flu, right, so we have had a flu aian flu has already come around, but it was handled a lot different. As I recall, Hey, as a question and the commander, how long does winter last and when is spring coming? Well, now this is to the book twenty to twenty five years. Twenty to twenty five years, so. And they're thinking that the current the winter started in two thousand and five ish, So. We're so we got about twenty thirty into it. Yeah, it's so twenty thirty thirty five. We're like, who, well, twenty twenty twenty would be twenty twenty five, would be twenty years, right, Okay, so they were predicting roughly at twenty twenty six ishes kind of be the end, and then we'll head into springtime and everything's would be hunky dory. But and they say, not every not every cycle ends like that. Every cycle ends with the Revolutionary War or the Civil War or World War two. But those cycles all ended in the Revolutionary war civil War. True, you look at it that way, So this cycle is going to end with a war. It kind of seems like if you look at that spreadsheet, the patterns that I put out for you, Yeah. When I can see things shaping up with China geeves that war, you. Know, Okay, poor James is throwing up in a bucket. Oh my god, this is a really cheery episode here. This is really so this is this is interesting too, So like the whole like how generations react. Let me post this, let me grab this and throw it, how generations react to stuff? Profit? Here this profit. Putting it in a chat room. Now, so everybody in chat to copy and I want to uh, I want to switch gears. And oh yeah, so that that shows you. So I love this new chat. The generation. Yeah, the generations don't think of generations like the millennium generation, ex g. This is this is what like, oh man, what you're like the adults. It's one generation, you know. The So this shows you that that celest the combination of generations inside of atturning. So he says, you will have a profit generation, a nomad generation, a hero generation, and an artist generation and typically each generation. He showed some examples like Ben Franklin, Lincoln FDR. We're all profit generations. And there they were like visionaries. They had you know, there they had set values so protective as they are indulgent kids indulged as kids, and they were protective parents. So you can see how how the collection of generations are built. Yeah, and depending on the markers and how they when they happen, what generation like, what generation was an adult? Ye? Under that? So the intrumpet commander says, tomorrow his son's turned to nine, and I will be in such a good mood. But think of it this way. The things that are happening right now is shaping your son to be the man that he's going to be in the future. So whereas I think he's going to be a prepper myself, I think so. Sam b is in the PBN chat room. She don't know we're in the new chat. You have to get her pulled over. I'm loving this huge chat. It's kind of interesting. I mean, as she gets deep into this book, it's saying you kind of see it at the at the patterns, like the adult, depending on the what the adult is, what phase of life the adult is in. You know where they were they born? You know, a nomad where they you know they move around where they born? An artist? You know, is Trump one of the heroes? He's sure? Right? So where is so elderhood? Right? Is he a boomer? Is he older than a boomer. He's uh, no way he'd be in the boomer. He'd be he's in the boomer. That was So another side note that they said is we're getting longer life spans. So it's almost like there's not for there. You know, it's not the prophet, the nomad, the hero, and the artist. There's almost like a new like like advanced elder, you know, like like a senior generation that's going to have to be worked into this. Because we were just saying, you know, where's Trump because did he make the boomer or is he pre boomer? But anyway, so they're they're putting, you know, the boomer as the prophet, and the prophet would be examples of like Ben Franklin, Lincoln, an FDR. So it's almost like, if you look at it that way, presidents that we're taking on big like social work projects, right or trying to pull things together right. Well, you know, when you look at the Great Depression, a lot of people say that World War two who brought us out of the Great Depression. So so I'm wondering what the war will be that will bring us out of this. Yeah, Hey, so let's shift gears now and go to the bug out bag. Let's see if I can stick this in the chat room. Uh, well, I'm blowing up the internet. We are, yes, gen X, I am gen X. Uh. The he goes over the generations and what they're called and what they're named. Right in the book, I. Do a little chart. So can you pull that up and see what time span each one is? Let's see, let me go. I think. Luck, he's typing it in right now. He always pulls it out. I'm gonna try and find the spreadsheets. Okay, here we go, Here we go. Oh, that's your spearsheet and I'm gonna stick them in the chat room. And James, you you can put these in the member's only side. These are examples of bug out bags and bug out vehicles. A friend of mine asked me to look this over and he said, give me your input. So I thought, wow, we can do this other show to I and he said, okay, so we can put these in the member's only side as examples of bug out bags. And I think he did a really good job. I know, Jen and I only have a couple changes that we would make. Trump was born in forty six, so he's a war maybe. So he did not. He's yeah, so let's put wait a minute. Forty six was the beginning of the baby boomers, the very beginning, So I don't know sure. Let me see the other notes. So so not my tight notes, but those other notes that I sent you earlier in the week. This is probably where that's all. Let me see here, you work on, you work on the spreadsheet, and I'll pull. Up the Okay, I'm sticking this notehat room right. Open up my turning folder. And I'm a lot of dead air here. Deep modify there we go, uploade. Okay, man, look at that up right in there and upload. Now you have. Everybody has this spreadsheet that we're going to be talking about right now. And let me see where my coffee's are. They're on the printer. Let me play a commercial. I'll be right back here at the Prepper Broadcasting Network. Our mission has expanded and we have decided to use our influence to aid in disaster recovery. PBN is offering up our airwaves to nonprofits and boots on the ground organizations that are affecting disaster recovery. The real people out there rebuilding lives from organizations that re establish the supply chain to those who deliver aid, and even organizations that rebuild shattered homes and lives. The future of disaster response does not lay in the hands of some government organizations. No, it's up to us. 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He's saying, forty three to sixty was the when when did they say Trump was forty six? Yeah? Yeah, and that falls into the profit which you were just talking. We're not saying profits are like profits you know from the Bible telling the future. They're just saying that's the archetype that I don't know personality is the right word for it. But yeah, hey, so we're looking at the spreadsheets now. Jen says she can see both of them, which is good. Nice. Yeah, so we have which one do you want to start first? I was impressed with these bug out bags. First of all, he has multiple bug out bags. He has a like a daily carry bag and then a. Like, uh, a patrol bag. I guess, yeah that was a Yeah, that's one that I really don't have. So his daily carry bag is thirteen pounds and his patrol bag is twenty one pounds, and he has got a lot of stuff in this bag. Let me read you some of the stuff that he's got in here. One hundred feet of parachute cord, hand warmers, waterproof matches, strike lighter, you know, firestick, smoke signal, some kind of a smoke signal thing, pen, paper, lip bomb. Oh, there's compass, matches and whistle. You said about a compass. He has a. Compass in this bag. Good, a multi knife with a compass. So his two compasses, practical flashlight, can opener. Now okay, and it's just for the patrol bag. Yeah, that's his patrol bag. Now his his daily carry bag. He has a song multi tool ten feet, a parachute cord, booney hats, first aid kit. Too many tourniquits in there. Okay, I'm seeing. A lot of good stuff there. You know, when I'm not. Seeing the day bag. Is that like his commute to working back or drive into town and back bag. Yeah, that's what I would I would take that as Yeah. Now you know what I'm not seeing is a water a stick, life straw. I don't see a life strong in this one. I saw a life straw in the daily bag and he had water pureification tablets. I think, oh okay, I see the water purification. It's a twenty four packet. There's the life straw. Okay. Yeah, what about a container for your water? You know, you want to have an analogy. He had a Nalgene bottle, which I had commented that I might do a metal bottle, yeah, because then you could use it to purify water. Over a fire exactly. You could cook in it or heat it up. Yeah, or at least have one of those metal cups that that nestle that the Elgin bottle nestles into. Yeah. Oh, I didn't go down far enough. He has another bag. Is this a different bag twenty this? Yeah, he had like like side pockets and interior pockets. That's a main pouch. Yeah, it's listed. As a main pouch. So this is what he has in the main pouch. And he only has one ninety five one set of gloves. Ah. Yeah, I'd probably put more than that in here. There he has another tourniquet. Well. The other thing is it could be seasonal because during the summer and crew in the mid mid Atlantic States would be a different loadout than in the winter of the Mid Atlantic States, right. Yeah, because you know neck cover, he's got cover here, you know, a scarf like thing, uh, blue plastic bag. Interesting, then maybe that would be like he's poncho you were saying that. Yeah, I would definitely put a pacho in there, Yeah, because you could use it for either for a rain gear for camouflage, or. See his binoculars. He's got Sterner binocas. That's got to be like a four hundred all a prayer of monoculars. Well, you can send him up on the bridge to spot for you exactly. And then in the second bag there he has an m R E in the left and the right pocket, which is great. There are about three thousand calories. Yeah, they're they're heavy in dnse in calories. And boy, in a stressful situation, you pop one of them out and you're like, yeah. So that's good. Okay, So let me see if I can do the vehicle So I need so, okay, I need, I need a bigger monitor. Yes matter, it does upload. Okay, I just save that as a PDF. So maybe Lucky you can look at it now and I'll go grab the other one. The other one is a vehicle bag. No, this is a lot bigger. No, it's only eighteen pounds. Say hm hmm, open pedia. Okay. He has two pockets in this. One says front pocket, one says main pocket, sip tize fifty feet, a par cord ten feet, a power cord flashlight with batteries, another multi tool. I'm a big fan of multi tools and knives. Emergency survival blanket which is great especially for the car mm hmm. I heard of a gentleman saved another guy his life when there was a car wreck. He witnessed the car wreck. The guy was impaled, so he had like a sunken chest wound and he couldn't breathe. So he took his space blanket covered the hole with it and he's lung. Yeah, so he's lungray won inflate nice. Yeah, I mean their air you know, waterproof, airproof, and they reflect heat. They're they're really really handy, light, They're very light. You could you can stick them anywhere. So what do you see in this bag that you might he doesn't have a compasseness. Oh and I had changed out, so, I mean, I know this is like the holes Ford Chevy thing. But yeah, I was thinking that the life straw might have been better served as the sawyer, like a sawyer mini, because there's a couple of different sawyer types. But they one you can actually screw on the top of water bottle or you can They have like a collapsible plastic bag thing. You fill the bagup of water, you screw the sawyer on top and then you squeeze it out. Yeah. Yeah, So I think that the sours are much more multitasking than the life straw. Oh yeah, I mean I. Have life straws. I bought them when I first started this whole crazy thing. Yeah, but I've since switched to sawyers. Yeah, because life straws were everywhere. Yeah, they were like the thing, right, they were the thing, and then as I kind of learned more, So, I mean I still have them. They're good. They're like backups, the backups. But I think if somebody were to ask me, I would suggest something in the vein of soor you can even put them in your hydration bags. You can. They have attachments so you can put them in the line, in the line of the Yeah, so you would just fill up your bag and then you just have to drink out of the straw and it automatically gets filters on its way through, which I think is a great idea. So I think they're multi talented a little better, and they're not much. They're about the same price. So yeah, and then yeah, he has a one leader bottle here with the life straw in it. Now, you had suggested a sling saw. Oh yeah, yeah, well now I also know that this person carries twenty four to seven. Yeah, well that's that's good too. But might be a time when you don't want to have the report. So and it could be used for all It could be used for signaling. It could be used to shoot, Like you could tie a piece of line onto an object and shoot it over a branch if you're trying to Like for comms, there was another thing missing. But for colms, you could run a makeshift antenna up a tree by shooting a piece of fishing line over a branch and then hauling it your antenna up. So there's a lot of uses. Hit a squirrel. Yeah, if you're bored, you can hit Dave in the head while you're sitting on the. Camp. Yeah. Hey, so you said that he doesn't have any colm scare. He doesn't, but he's not he doesn't have anybody's talk to. So, but coms are not always two way, correct. You would want some kind of way to get information, Yes, absolutely so, some kind of radio. You know in the movies when they're all when when the good guy always is like behind enemy lines and he picks up a walkie talkie from one of the guys that he knocked out, but then he can listen to everything that's going on exactly. And there was one other thing that you mentioned, Uh, you put in here travel money, and I would I would put travel money slash barter material. Okay. Well, when I was traveling in the Middle East, okay, I had kind of uh go to bag. Everybody had their own little bag. Okay. So but one of the things I did was you remember thirty five millimeter film cases. Yeah, yeah, the plastic yeah up. With silver okay, silver rounds, okay. And I also had gold quarter rounds. Gold. They were little uh eagles, you know, arounds gold. Gold was a lot cheaper back then too, And I carried those in a special pocket in this bag. And I figured if I couldn't offer them anything else gold or silver, which is pretty much universal, they'd understand that, you know. So just just to think something to barter with, something that you're willing to give up mm hmm to someone else that may you know, maybe even a bribe, you know, you might get out of jail free guard. Just an idea, just like. Hey, another thing that I didn't see and I didn't think of before I turned back again. And it's seasonal, so like in the in the winter you might want the hand warmers and the footwarmers and the lip chap lip stuff. But in the summer you might want bugs, bug screens or bug spray and sun sun screen. So it's almost That's the stage that I'm in right now, is how do I make seasonal kits in a changeable seasonal kids to go in and out of my bags? So well, if you have a Molly. System, yeah, you can put. An outside pocket on for your seasonal change and. The same thing for clothing too, you're gonna. Yeah, yeah, you're gonna have to have. But dude, I wear long sleeve all the time. I can't stand the sun. It gives me sun poison. Ever since I've been in the Middle East time, I look like an Amish guy because I have the big brim ad long sleeves at long pants and people look at me and say, aren't you hot? And I said, hell, yes, I'm hot, but I have no choice, but I'm conscious. Yeah, well, Jenna, I think we pretty much beat this horse dead. Anybody in the chat room have any additions or deletions from the bags that we were looking at a vehicle bag and he had three other bags. Yeah, he just had a clearance seal in bags. Maybe they had all up. But you know, he and and he's a single guy, so he's not he's not looking out for anybody else in his family. So or he doesn't have a governor to slow him down like we do. Yeah, a control rod. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Okay, Well let's see if I can delete. Oh, I hope I didn't. Are you still there, I'm here? Okay, good to get rid of me. Well, chin, thank you so much for making this show even possible, because there's no way I could have read the book with the warden on my ass twenty four to seven. And and it's my pleasure and and everybody listening should really pick up a copy of the book and give it a read. It's it's it's good material to give you, get you thinking outside of the box. And let you know what's coming. I mean, it. Doesn't tell you you're not going to like know, it's not a prophecy book, but it's it tells it said like part of the book it said, our whole goal here is to teach you how to look at current and past events to help you deal with future events. It's like that's all that's their goal is not to tell you what the future is to be, but kind of how to deal with it. Do you think we go through these cycles because people forget history and they just it just naturally. When people don't, well, people don't want to think about history. They think about it as a timeline. Like I said in the opening, they think as a straight line, but it around goes around right exactly. Well, ladies and gentlemen out there and radio listening land, I appreciate you tuning in tonight or downloading at a future date, but I highly recommend that you join us in the live chat in our new elements. Curtsey of chin Gin's up. This is the whole. This is a group effort, a couple of keys at the beginning. We're all build this to be. He's very very modest. We we wouldn't be where we were if it wasn't for Chin because he's the tech guy. For sure. Listen to you. He will take care of everybody. And remember prep On We are the Prepper Broadcasting Network