Matter of Facts: Keep Up, Or Not

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[00:00:23] And welcome back to the Matterfax Podcast. The title of the show is Keep Up or Not and I'm crazy like so when I start getting sick, which I feel like a freaking ton better today. I mean, I call the script and I called it the Teladoc and that was awesome. It only took three minutes and he was like, what do you normally do? And I'm like, well, it's a sinus infection and I get, uh, oh crap. It's the, uh, penicillin shoot.

[00:01:41] Damn it.

[00:01:42] Amoxicillin.

[00:01:43] Yes.

[00:01:44] Thank you.

[00:01:45] God dang it.

[00:01:46] I always forget that for some reason, but anyway, I, uh, I go, down this stupid rabbit hole, but I Last night I got out of work got home at like around midnight Had to be back up and back to work at 7 and I think I got to bed I think I fell asleep almost 1 o'clock and I did a shot of night quill just to kind of try to knock me out

[00:03:01] Of course that didn't work. I tossed and turned and stayed awake until I think it was like 115 130 was last time

[00:03:07] I looked at my clock I

[00:04:01] when I was in the military where it was like, okay, y'all got an hour to get some rest

[00:04:03] and the lights out.

[00:04:04] It's just like, it's like a programmed part of my brain

[00:04:08] that just says, it is time to go night night,

[00:04:10] click and flip the switch and I'm done.

[00:04:13] But it drives people who can't sleep that easily crazy.

[00:04:18] So anyway, so I thought we would have a conversation today

[00:04:22] because like we got to talking about like some of our older

[00:04:25] gun builds and for me it's all matte black. It's got black grips on it. It's not a really pretty gun. It's not a very ornate gun, but it's because they were modeled after the contract firearm that was spec'd for LAPD SWAT.

[00:05:40] They are the ones that had Kimber build them all their 1911s for the SWAT departments out

[00:05:45] in there.

[00:05:46] You know, I think this would have been of complaints out of it. And interestingly enough, Kimber's of this vintage are well known because this is when Kimber flirted with an external extractor versus the internal extractor that all other 1911s use. Kimber had so many problems with this

[00:07:02] design with breaking extractors and breaking extractor springs and poor everybody, you had to have a laser on every freaking handgun. And it also has a Surefire X200 on it, which you might remember, but the people that have been in the gun business for very long, that see like the Surefire X300s and the X300 turbos, the X200A is the predecessor to all those.

[00:08:22] And to be fair, this little tack light

[00:08:25] is brighter than that thing is. handgun though. I know. No, my first handgun was a.45 as well, 1911. Yeah. But it says Colt property of the US Army on the side of it. And it does not have anything cool, like no cool rail. It says Colt property of US Army on the side of it. That's way fricking cooler than a Kimber in my opinion.

[00:09:41] I know my, it was a hand-me-down I got from my great uncle.

[00:09:46] And he got it from, I haven't fired it. And I don't know how long, but it's still pretty solid. And I love it. I would love to, and it makes me want to get another 1911 because I would love to still carry one. But man, maybe I'll carry that one one day

[00:11:00] just for the heck of it for old nostalgia.

[00:11:04] I mean, you know, I admit basically like Rick and Jane and I'll let you come over once a year to shoot it. I don't know man. Conch go visits on top of all that makes a strong argument. But no no. Um

[00:12:22] no, I get I mean I know exactly what you're saying because I

[00:12:25] got I mean I'm a gun collector ARs that I ever built, I still have. And that thing has been through so many different versions. I mean, current, it's now currently a 16 inch version because of the, you know, awesome, wonderful ETF that we have. So it's currently a 16 inch instead of springs here and there, but it's like, well, you know what, instead of repurposing it again. I'm going to build another one and call it good. And that's the thing is like the CZ Scorpion that I have. I love it as like a truck gun or something like that.

[00:15:01] And it's like, OK, well, I'm going to repurpose that one.

[00:15:03] That's been kind of just like a range toy here and there.

[00:16:06] freaking useless. And I do have the original factory grips which are actually like... so this also gets into this whole idea of like changing trends

[00:16:11] and everything but like the grips that came on this Kimber you remember when

[00:16:16] there was a period of time and this is like kind of I don't want to say pre

[00:16:20] plastic fantastic but like when you had to have a handgun to do serious things with, that'd be what I would pick, you know? It's got a much more powerful light on it. It shoots much flatter than the 1911 does. It's got 21 round magazines.

[00:18:45] 15 or 16 rounds depending on which magazine running in the gun. There's a reason why I have a P09 as my bedside gun because I got 21 rounds of 9mm on tap. I can fix a lot of problems.

[00:18:53] So I just don't... it's one of those situations where it's like I probably change the grips,

[00:18:57] I can justify that especially because I already have them. I don't think I would spend a lot of

[00:19:01] time or effort or money further upgrading the firearm. Yes, yes, yes Ben, stop. More stopping I put a Magpul fixed stock on it because I didn't like the folding stock they made. And because the factory stocks all have this kind of like this gooseneck feature to them where there's a hitch in the stock that positions the receiver high rep relative to your shoulder. And the Magpul stock is very much a straight inline stock, which I think helps with recoil

[00:20:21] mitigation. You basically took a Russian and got frickin smooth and it runs great. Never had an issue with it yet But I'm gonna put some wood stock on it eventually and they make a wood kit for it I just I just like that wood. I mean, I've always been a fanboy of the woods the wood and I've also been a fan of the modernization

[00:21:43] Look of it as well at the rails and all the you know, everything like that And so I've always wanted to well, I get to now probably not

[00:22:48] that hinges onto the hand guard that kind of sits on top of the rear sight block for you to mount a red dot in that position where it's closer to your eye further down the receiver

[00:22:54] towards you. However, none of that existed at the time I built this thing. So what was

[00:23:00] much more common back then was either to use the side of mounted like where you would think about a Scout rifle having its LPV, its long eye relief scope mounted, you know? Like it's kind of way further away from the eye than what is traditionally used now, but I can tell you from having brought it to the range and made like perfectly respectable 100 yard hits on an 8 inch plate, it works. Having the scope, having the red

[00:24:22] dot mounted that far away from the eye really doesn't hurt anything as far as usage. It doesn't the only good mounting position for an optic, or you got the mount that it can't, you know, it mounted on the side of your receiver. Because if you tried to mount it on the dust cover, if you ever seen a AK-47 in slow motion, there's a reason why there's like no dirt ever found in that fricking thing. You shoot it and it rattles a completely apart

[00:25:40] and comes back together like a wizard.

[00:25:43] But what's nice though is permanently attached to the receiver, it's not like precision marksman going to return to zero, but it's going to be close enough that you can legitimately use it. And a lot of the newer generation of the dust covers that have the Picatinny rails on them,

[00:27:04] there's some kind of a system to either sh effective up to like 50 yards. So like there's there's nothing envisioned in the design of the AK. Bear in mind that this design dates back to the 40s. You know like let's be realistic. And

[00:28:20] yeah you can make the argument that the design of the AR dates back to like what

[00:28:24] the late 50s early 60s. So anyway. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I guess kind of going off of the trends and stuff of the gun industry. What's interesting is the whole red dot situation.

[00:29:45] You have yet to catch up on that.

[00:29:48] But... I think the whole industry is going closed. It's back and forth from what I'm saying. Because hear me out, I don't think there's much more debate to be had about red dots on pistols. Five years ago, 10 years ago definitely, there was a ton of debate to be had. I among other people had a lot of worries about putting electronic things as my primary

[00:31:03] sighting system on a handgun. And then here come the here come the closed emitter optics The the I call them the mailboxes because that's what they all every one of them looks like a mailbox You know, that's the what the Aimpoint acro Hollison a EMS help me out here Andrew The Steiner and Steiner MPS

[00:32:22] I

[00:32:24] Don't know I know you're talking about the mailboxes. They all look like a mailbox. Yeah

[00:33:25] and then you're going to have to sit there and try to blow it out or try to knock the sand loose or whatever you have, what have you. So yeah, you know, there's the pros for that, but I mean, and I'd say price, but really the price for both closed and open are really the same price.

[00:33:37] I mean, they're close enough.

[00:33:39] I mean, if you look at the, I mean, well, if you look at like the Trajicon, I mean, Trajicon, their new RMR HD dress around it. But so I don't know. Again, it's to each their own. It's if you want to follow the trend and you want to jump on it, do it. But here train with it. But I guess here's the question. Let's let's say hypothetically, because the title of the episode is Keep Up or Not. You already have a gun. It already you already have a it doesn't matter concealed carry gun or or an open carry gun.

[00:35:05] It's got an open.

[00:35:06] It's got an old school closed emitter, but do you go back and rip all the RMRs off and replace them with something else because the industry has moved on? No, I mean, and I haven't done that. I have an MMP 9C that's milled for an RMR. I ran

[00:36:23] an RMR on it for a while. I bought an SRO and actually my Rugs and stuff like that. But I'm more comfortable with throwing it on my shotgun, throwing it back on my shotgun, torquing everything downwards in spec and all that stuff. And then okay, throwing it in the corner or putting it back safe and say, okay, I can get out this weekend. I can get out in two weeks

[00:37:40] and I can throw a slug down range and make sure it's on.

[00:37:44] Versus my carry gun, pop it not an early adopter on almost anything and I'm probably gonna wind up, I'm stuck between an RMR and like a Holosun 507 and I don't know.

[00:39:01] Like the Trigicon is not that much more expensive than a 507 and on the one hand the 507 is products, but you know, and that's the thing is they're doing something right. Whoever their freaking QA people are and like their engineers and stuff like that, whatever they're doing, they're doing it right. It's China. It's China crap, but it's like it's good. China crap. I mean, I I compare that to the Sig Romeo that I've shot before and I

[00:40:21] have the Sig Romeo is China crap and for some reason, I

[00:40:25] don't I mean, obviously, on buying. I've been kind of waiting to see some of the new, especially with the new RCR and the RMR HD. I kind of want them just to get out and get field tested and just some more people bang on them a little bit and stuff like that.

[00:41:40] And I want to see them more.

[00:41:41] And the stuff I've been seeing out of them is very impressive.

[00:41:45] And so that's why I'm like, you know what?

[00:41:47] I'm going to spend the money, it's just they had to basically redesign the RMR from the ground up because the fact that they had this design that worked awesome, it was robust, I mean you couldn't kill it, and people wanted a top-load battery. Well it's like the

[00:43:02] electronics inside really don't call for a tiny little you know, tiny little collapse down CQB gun And we're seeing this a lot kind of in tandem with the night vision game because now we're seeing the I call it the battle of the optic risers like everybody higher your optic, the more upright your head posture is, fast you come on target, it's better for CQB, like from here to 25 yards away, no one cares what the offset is. And it's all really good arguments, but I guess my point is like I've seen the industry go from these two extremes and everything in the middle. It always seems like the

[00:45:43] industry is always looking for the next thing a half to 11 and a half to 12 and a half. I think a lot of that's honestly because of the the pistol brace fight that's going on in the courts right now. Like that has done a lot to stifle sub 16 inch barrel ARs. And so as a result, people are saying, well, if I can't have 10 and a half inch barrel,

[00:47:01] might as well have 16, 18 or 20 make an doubt they'll give up the government never gives up. But they kind of, it's so it feels like the pistol brace kind of got is getting pushed away. They're accepting that slap on the hand and that that defeat, until they decide to do something even like to go coyote hunting or deer hunting. And I wanted something that can, that has a little bit more kick behind it than a 10 and a half inch 5.56. Like, that's why I built my rifle. It wasn't because of the industry. So, you know, for if somebody who sits there

[00:49:41] and is like, oh, I did it because the industry said so.

[00:49:43] Dude, you should, if they told you,

[00:49:45] the back, going back to the whole,

[00:49:47] if your friend told you, or if your friend told you shotgun. Well, yeah, because at the time I was looking for a home defense shotgun and I didn't have one. So that was like that filled that niche. So I don't know. It's just the industry is fun. It's it's but at the same time, it's annoying because like it's cool to see what's out there. But don't do

[00:51:01] stuff just because freaking the industry told you to get do it

[00:51:04] because it do it because it had a silver arms folder and it had a 10.5 inch barrel. It was a very small AR and it fit in the space it needed to. Comma, however, I don't feel like it was ever the perfect truck gun up total versus the 10 and a half inch AR pistol, but it was substantially smaller as far as the receiver length and everything. The AR pistol was always going to be basically stay in the truck.

[00:53:41] The Scorpion is small enough to something like a 2-10, give me a little bit more magnification than a 6x. I don't know, I'm not sold on that idea. 6x does what I needed to do at the ranges I shoot at. It'd be nice to have a little bit more but I can live without it so that's a debate I'm having with myself

[00:55:00] which is the very next bullet point. But the MOF patrons all the time about because they all think that I should have stuck with a 10 with the 10.5 inch pistol but scorpions are a vibe. So since we've been talking about this eternal bar fight about optics, I've seen the industry go in so many different directions as far as what is like the one optic to rule them all. And I continue to giggle and sneer at this idea that there is ever going to be one decision, one optic to rule them all. No one optic, no one optic can rule them all. And if anybody disagrees with that, I direct you directly towards the DOD.

[00:57:43] The Department of Defense has, regrettably, I hate to admit it, near limitless budgets. to rule the mall or one choice to rule the mall and we have to say what makes sense in your use case and that's what you ought to be concerned about and not let the industry try to convince us that any one of these objects is going to work 100% of the time 100% of cases because they don't. Disagree with me? Try to go precision shooting at 500 yards over the red dot let me know how it works.

[00:59:01] I mean the industry has only went all it's especially if it's like an AR platform or an AR 10 platform, build

[01:00:24] one lower, build a couple uppers, you know, it's one of those things, it's like I've heard so, I've heard people go, well, I wanna get a rifle, I wanna build a rifle, so when I go out west, all kind.

[01:01:42] All right.

[01:01:44] When are you gonna go?

[01:01:45] Well, I don't know.

[01:01:47] All right.

[01:01:48] What are you gonna hunt next year? need a t-shirt that is a cartoon version of you holding a pokeball open with a bunch of rifles in it saying gotta catch them all. Gotta get them all. Now we just need like a professional illustrator. No, if you say gotta catch them all you're probably gonna get sued. So gotta get them all. Okay. Or collect them all.

[01:03:00] No, I just need a professional illust Because many firearms has been made functionally useless because it started out to do this one thing and then you added this thing to make it do something else and this other thing to do something else. And then before you know it, you have the mall ninja meme where you have like a scope and

[01:04:23] three red dots and backup iron sights and like, you know, 15,000 freaking accessories I'm going to do a little bit of a dance. I'm going to do a little bit of a dance. I'm going to do a little bit of a dance. I'm going to do a little bit of a dance. I'm going to do a little bit of a dance. I'm going to do a little bit of a dance. I'm going to do a little bit of a dance. I'm going to do a little bit of a dance. I'm going to do a little bit of a dance. I'm going to do a little bit of a dance.

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