Matter of Facts: More Troubles

Welcome back to the Matter of Facts podcast on the Prepper Broadcasting Network. We talk prepping, guns, politics every week on iTunes, Ditcher, and Spotify. Go check out our content at mwefpodcast dot com, on Facebook or Instagram. You can support us be a Patreon or by checking out our affiliate partners. I'm your host, Phil Raveley Andrew Nicker on the other side of the mic, and here's your show. Welcome back to the. Matter of Facts Podcast, still guarantee be the least professional podcast. On the Internet. I'm Phil and that's Nick and we are back from summer camp with zero casualties. True, zero casualties, A couple fairly nasty hangovers. Not my fault. I did not bring the full strength bourbon. I brought the northern stuff. I mean, this is one of those happy little moments in time where like I don't personally get hangovers. Lucky Mary Halluyah. I'm not sure where my genetic soup that comes from, but like me and hangovers, I've had one in my entire life, and in forty three years, one of them was bad enough. They're not great. There's a reason why I tried to be very cognizant about the drinks I make for myself, and I try to be kind with the drinks I make for other people, except for you. I tried to get you drunk, but didn't work, did it, No, Because you can stand a little bit of peer pressure some of our One of our patrons, on the other hand, he did not withstand the peer pressure or the extremely delicious small badge bourbon that one of the other patrons brought. Brian, Thank you again, those were delicious. Yeah. I thought, before we get to topic, we do need to talk about summer camp a little bit. And I owe an enormous shout out to Brian because like he ended up being like our local guide, fortunately or unfortunately depending on your point of view, because we went to Kentucky this year, and like he took it upon himself to arrange a first ever like mof Range day that coincided with summer Camp, which was awesome. We got to go out and like show off all of our toys and we introduced missus Matter of Facts and our daughter to like a whole cornucopia of cool things. High precision twenty two's a lot of suppressed twenty two's. If you suppressed what ten nine thirties five five to six suppressed. I think was there too. It was a lot of fun stuff. Some was Brian brought out a mosin Yes and three. Both were fun. That has officially like scratched my itch for a very large. Rifle for a while. Dude, I told you, and you thought I was joking about about the concussion from that round. It's stout. You can feel your eyeball shaking in your head. Oh yeah, if you shoot it enough, especially with the break I have on mind, if you shoot enough, you do taste copper, which is probably not great, not the worst thing to taste. Truth. Raggle was asking if we brought out the meat. I did not think we brought out meat. I didn't have any ready. I will try to have some ready for next summer. We did, on the other hand, have quite a collection of bourbon, and we brought Uncle Randy's bottle of cactus juice that never got uncorked. I think that might have actually killed one of the patrons had we decided, had you brought that out that night, you know, probably prh probably for the maybe. I mean I brought home like five half empty whiskey bottles, So yeah, yeah, there was a lot of consumption, and there was I'm convinced that like one of my lungs left my body and went on protest from all the cigars I was smoking. Yeah, you have you brought a bunch? Well, I bring a bunch every time I go mm hmm. Well you don't want to run out halfway through? Oh no, that's awful. Then I'd have to go shop for cigars while on vacation. Whoever is that reminds me, I have a very excellent cigar lounge just one town over for me. I should I should send you their collection website and see if there's anything in there that you feel you need before next summer camp. I mean, I'm pretty easy to shop for. I like mediums, Okay, I'm not I like So. Are you a cigar smoker. I've been known to have them on occasion. I mostly just do pipes anymore because I smoke them so rarely, because I just I just don't have the time. Most of the time. I'm busy with other things that the cigars that and we get so dry in the winter. I have a really hard time keeping a quality humidor at the right humidity, Whereas the pipe tobacco. I can kind of just seal it up in like a mason jar and it's pretty solid for an awful long time. Yeah, that's all fair. Yeah, but yeah, so we. Did range day. You and Rachel did some exploring of the local trails in the park. Found all the ticks. All the ticks. Oh, the god damn ticks this year. I think the one hike, the hike, the morning hike we did because a lot of the days of the heat in decks of like one hundred and five, so we really didn't do a ton of hiking. The morning we did. I think between me and her and the dog, we stopped counting at twenty five tick. That's excessive. There was quite a few. I mean, I think only the dog and Rachel had one actually bite them. The rest of them were just crawling either on me or on the dog or I'm Rachel. So not too bad. Not the word the ticks I've ever been into, but significant numbers. Yes, And me and missus matter of fact, and Piper went to see Mammoth Cave, which was really cool. Honestly. You know what we found out though, did you know that Mammoth Cave has cabin out there on the property. No, and they have something like a dozen different guided tours. Like we went on the self guided tour, which is kind of like, you know, the main cavern, but the guided tours go in all kinds of places you can't go unless it's a guided tour. Cool. So Gilly and I were talking about, like, wouldn't it be a lot of fun if we ever jump back of property, get a cabin on the property and do like two tours a day. Yeah, just see the whole cave complex. Absolutely, that's awesome. And then the cool part of it is so ninety two degrees above ground fifty four degrees below ground. I didn't notice that in some of the pictures you were wearing sweaters. Well I wasn't. I just wore like, you know, T shirt and my hiking shirt. But Piper and Gillion were both like putting on and off sweaters, long sleeve shirts and everything, because once. We got onder ground, it got chilly. Genuinely, I think I want to say, I know in my area, if you get ten feet below ground. It averages like sixty degrees fifty eight or sixty degrees uh. In the summer and in the winter sounded like the forties. Yeah, so I can only imagine it and with the Yeah, with the amount of volume is stoning around you, it's gonna stay very cool all the time. Altimeter was saying from from when we got from when we were out of the cave to down in the cave, it was about one hundred. And fifty feet down. Oh, I believe that it's it's massive. Yeah, I think one of the one of the tours requires a bus. One of them requires hard hats, which we were. Not in for. Huh. I'd be down for that. But yeah, it was a great It was another great vacation, like my only my only The only downside is that with my personality, like MS summer Camp, I always ride this fine line of when it's time to go home. I wish we would have stayed a little bit longer. But then I also am the person that's like, oh, I kind of want to get home. I've got projects, I get stuff to work on, you know, Like this is one of the things that it's frustrate yelling about me for years, is like I'm the worst vacationer on earth because after I've been on vacation for a few days, I'm itching to go home because I just I've got stuff around. Here I want to work on. You know, I don't pay as much as I do for a mortgage to be in a place I don't want to be. Yeah. Well, and it's not like I didn't want to be up there. No, no, you do. But still like, I bought my house because I enjoy my house. I like being here, and that's why I continue to pay the mortgage. I like going on vacations too, but I like the things I'm doing on vacation. I very rarely like the act of being in a different location and having Like I don't have all my normal gear with me. I don't have my normal bed because there's Look, the beds were nice in the cabins. They were they were good beds for being in a cabin. Oh yeah, it's not my bed. You don't sleep the same. Neither does my dog, neither does my wife. So you always end up a little bit sleep deprived for at least a couple of days till you get used to the mattress. Then by that point it's like Wednesday, Thursday. Then you go home. Then you gotta get reused to your bed. It's I like getting to see the cool spots. I like getting to see the like. We went and walked along a big limestone bluff that was really cool, saw some really neat erosion and sandstone formations, saw some cool little lizards, a bunch of other neat stuff. But I just it's not the same as home. Yeah, and since I came home, I've been putting in a little bit of work here and there at the reloading bench. It appears we have a Cypers survivalist who is listening along. Oh yeah, I bet I knew who that is. We also we also got to check out that limestone day that they built. That was really cool. I did not realize that, damn for the lake we were on was stone built. I thought it was concrete from the top and we went down below it's actually stacked limestone. Looked like, yeah, cyber Survival is that's my wife. She's just on the nonprofit account right now, I guess, you know. But yeah, since I came home. Well, so on the way home, I stopped at mid South Shooter Supply, which I mean, we were driving through Clarksville, how are you not going to required? And I had to do the Walk of shame where you walk back to the vehicle that your your family's waiting in with a box full of stuff, and you know the question that's going to get asked. Look, don't ask, don't tell applies to reloading stars. See. It's funny though, because, like Gillian, wasn't asking an accusational way, like how much did you spend fill? It was just curiosity because you know it was a it was a box. It wasn't like a huge how much does the box cost? Seven hundred and fifty something bucks? It's easy to do when powder is what, oh, fifty sixty bucks a pounds? Yeah, I was gonna say six. I think last time I averaged it out it was like sixty bucks a pound between the three powders I stock. So yeah, I got. I picked up some h one ten because I intend to shoot a lot more of my three percent magnum in the near future. Picked up two more pounds of argam, which brings me up to four because I think that's probably I'm going to give that a whirl in in my three way Winchester. Eventually, I I think you're gonna be surprised with how much you like it. It meters very well, I will say that it in my hot six. It did, it didn't do what I was hoping for. I was hoping for a better metering forty sixty four. Forty sixty four didn't still searching for the ideal powder for my thirty odd six, but I I also still have seven pounds of forty sixty four, so I have no real urgency behind looking for something else. Yeah, and I'm in this situation where like I have less than two pounds of forty sixty four on the shelf, So like, if the varget winds up doing the same as forty sixty four, I will probably swap over to that for precision. Yeah, and I'll say the forty sixty four for like see our game kings or hunting. Rounds or something else. So it's like, I still want something that's really, really, really accurate for the hunting ammunition, but I would really like to be able to load more than like two, you know, two hundred of the stupid things at this point. Yeah. But I've also I've also put aside all my three away Winchester reloading until probably the end of the year, because you know, you and I were talking, like I have finally made it my mind rather than rip apart the three away Winchester hunting rifle I have and have rey barrel and change the bottom metal and like really molested because it was it was it was inherited my part. Yeah, So I think what I'm kind of looking at now, and I've been picking at this and I'm not totally set on yet, but like I really kind of like a Savage one ten Predator. I have a lot of good things to say about Savage one ten action, but. The Core Predator, because the primary difference there is that the the Core rifles have like an aluminum betting surface embedded down into that that polymer stock. They do so acceptable, perfectly acceptable. They seem like they have good, good ish triggers, decent actions, floating bolt head, heavy barrel or heavy medium heavy profile barrel. Yeah, the Predator has a zero mo A rail, whereas the tactical that Andrew used to have has a twenty mo A rail. But I look at it as honestly, I'm probably gonna putting like some twenty MOA rings on it anyway, because the scope that I have in mind has enough adjustment that, like I should have no problem getting the thing down to mechanical zero at one hundred even with a twenty m way rail. And that then just means that when. I if I ever get the chance to push it out, I've got plenty of upward adjustment. True. True, Yeah, you really shouldn't have a problem there. I mean, I have never owned a Savage one ten. I know a few people that do, and I've tuned some loads with a couple of guys that have. They are phenomenally accurate rifles out of the box. They are very, very acceptable, even without tuning. Yeah, Andrew really had no complaints of his other than it was heavy. Yeah, that was the primary reason he got rid of it. Stock does have some extra weight to it. It does. But it's like I told him, I'm like, literally the third purchase I make for this thing behind the rifle and the scope is going to be a bipod like this is. This isn't tended first and foremost to be a shoot off, arrest shoot off of a bipod rifle. I'm not. This is not a put on my back and lug it through the woods. Because if I'm going to do something with that, then I'm gonna go grab the ruger, you know. I I want to once again make the case for you to build a rifle from an action. Up and I haven't totally dismissed that I was also looking at brown Els has how of fifteen hundred barreled actions with a good cold hammer forged a heavy profile barrel with their two stage trigger that I'm not crazy about. I'm only two stage triggers, but it's not a bad trigger. It's just trigger is a very acceptable trigger for people that aren't for people that want a two stage trigger. If you don't like two stage triggers, you're not going to be happy with it. Yeah, which is why I'm also factoring, like if I go that direction, I'm almost obligated. To swap out the trigger. Yeah you are, which isn't the end of the world dc to do. And the how of fifteen hundreds they're not hard to work on, not really. Yeah, And MDT makes a really nice chassis for the thing. So I mean, like, I have it's enough the LSS chassis on my seven hundred. Yeah, but that's kind of where I'm at. It's like, either either I buy the barrel to action get get get the stock that I have in mind, which basically has half the chassis built into it, and then do bipod scope rings and then a trigger, or I just suck it up, spend the money on the Savage, which already has a trigger that I suspect I'm gonna like just fine, already has a stock on it that has basically half a chass system embedded in it. Yeah, it's one of those situations where it's like it's not even a money question at this point, because once you factor in the cost of the trigger on the HOWA there, I'm pretty close either direction. But I find that you would enjoy the process of barreling in action, going through all the steps in the accurizing, put picking, and putting on your own trigger. I think you would enjoy the entire process of building the rifle if you don't have the time. Nothing wrong with the Savage, Nothing wrong with the Savage at all. I mean most of those most of those Savages with factory ammunition or one MOA guns or sub MOA guns without an issue, without an issue with an inexperienced shooter. You know, and I have the ability. I have both need some work, But honestly, man, I've already proven that I can I can put four rounds on top of each tyre at one hundred, right. But it's also the fact that like I can tune the ammunition. To the web. I mean, it's so this with the aluminum bedding in that Savage, in that Savage polymer stock, you probably won't have a lot of trouble tuning it in. You're really gonna have to just tune the velocity into the barrel whip that you're going to get off that specific barrel, which I would do with anything be a big deal. No, you're gonna do that anyway. Even if you build a custom rifle and it's a completely free floated barrel like my seven hundred has been modified into being with the LSS chassis. You have to do that anyway. No matter what you buy, you're gonna have to do that. But I suppose it's down to the time investment you would have to have, because do you feel like buying headspace gauges. Do you feel like setting up advice to say, say you went with like a Remage prefit barrel or something like that, or a Savage prefit barrel and a Savage action, you still should get headspace gauges for that. Yes, they're prefit. Yes, you can technically do it without them. Don't don't be dumb by the gauges. They are like seventy bucks. It's cheaper than new hands. Yeah, and it's also the fact that, like even if I no matter which direction I go with this, I think I'm also gonna have to make the jump in into like next sizing dies. I've always fulling three sized things just for the sake of like reliability and consistency. But I did just spend a not inconsequential amount of money on one hundred pieces of Peterson Peterson match brass. So and I would really like, since this is something that's really being intended for precision rifle, I'd really like the ability to just next size it and have a little bit of a tighter fit between round and chamber. If you're using your brass that's been fired in your rifle. Next sizing, go go forward and do great things, hit many small targets. If it's going to be ammunition shared between rifles, full length three size is my is my. Preferred Yeah, well man, that's why I have Foling three size for That's why I have Foling three size for the ar because even though I have a seventy seven grain SMK kind of earmarked for the for the spo are, and I shoot primarily fifty five's out of the out of the car, being those that that that round's got to be able to work in both of them. Oh, it absolutely does if you if you grab the wrong mag you want to be able to send those pills anyway. Yeah, it's going to be close enough for government work. Yeah. So a couple of questions. Ragl asked about forty eight ninety five. I actually don't think I have any in this in my stash. I'd have to look, I haven't if I do. If I do, it's something I have like a pound of and I've just never played with it before. It might. I mean I've heard it's pretty good and three awight, but never played around with it. And I wouldn't be upset. He also asked about a Ruger American. So I did debate this with myself of what if I get like a Savage Axis or Ruger American as a base. I would have to get. I would really rather get one with a heavy barrel right out of the gate, because like, why buy one and then throw the barrel in the trash. Okay, So what I would say in that case, what you could do is do just a shitload of load testing and training on that barrel that you are intending to junk. Run it hot and fast, run it low and slow, throw a bunch of rounds through it, just to get rounds under your belt. Get used to the felt recoil, get used to the trigger, wear that barrel down, and then put your really nice barrel on and tune for precision. I mean that's potential, but like three eight barrel WINA is quite long anyway. Yeah, But I guess when I look at a Riuger American, not that I think it's a bad rifle on me. I've seen quite a few of them built out in really nice shooters. But I go into. This this cost exercise of like, if I can start with this, it's much cheaper rifle versus the Savage. But I know I don't like the stock on it. Mm hmm. So we're into a stock. I might be able to get away with like really polishing up the trigger like I did on my route my current Ruger. Maybe I might have to junk the trigger maybe and it and and then if I shoot. Up the barrel, or if the barrel just will not come together appropriately, now I have to junk the barrel. I get into the position of like, Okay, I'm gonna buy this thing. I'm gonna rip its poor friggin head off and change almost all of it. Why didn't I just go get the Savage one ten Predator. Well, look, because it's it's already out of the box, going to do pretty much exactly what I want to do. That ruger with the right load, unless you get it junk one, which is pretty rare with quality control nowadays. Yeah, it will perform, it will perform, but here lies the problem. Is it going to have the same top end performance as a heavy profile barrel and a properly betted stock. No, but here lies the problem. I've already got a rifle over there with a sportweight barrel, with an internal box magazine, not AICs magazine I'd like to have that will already stack four rounds on top of each oart one hundred yards. So why buy a second one? That is the problem I keep butting my head against. Why buy another one that has all the same compromises that thing does? And it's a great rifle. For a hunting rifle. It's going to be just perfect, But why buy another one that does pretty much what that does? And I'm going to have to rip it all apart, which is the whole thing I'm trying not to do on this. So I've gone through this this exercise on my head a few times, and I keep coming back to the unescapable conclusion of either I built something from a bucket of parts, or I buy something that's pretty close and outfitted the way I want it, and that is like the Savage one Tang Corp Predator or an alternative that I'm still weighing out. But one way or the other that that little thing is going to be maybe a birthday present to myself maybe towards the end of the year. It's not going to have happened for the moment. We've got we got funds in too many different directions right now for me to shave off, you know, eleven hundred dollars. Plus for a rifle. Yeah, plus glass, plus massco plus bags that are thirty bucks a whack, by the way, and I don't I never buy just two or three of them, so you need ten. It's really one of those situations where it's like, could I go out and buy the rifle tomorrow? Absolutely? Could I go out and buy. Everything else that's going to take to make to take to make that weapon system. Absolutely. I just can't convince myself that's where I want my money to go right now, because it's going everywhere else. Me and myself, me and my siblings have this thing we do when one of us wants to buy something that's expensive and we're refusing to buy it for ourselves. One of my siblings will propose a blood packed and it's not an actual blood packed, it's it's it's a joke, but it's, well, I'll buy myself this expensive thing that you have to buy yourself, that thing that you're debating about. I've been trying to do that with you with night vision for years. I know other things that I need more than night vision, one of which is a mill. I do need a mill to sit right there next to the lathe. I will only buy off on that idea. If you use the mill to make night vision housings. I can. I absolutely can. I can also use this lathe to make night vision housings. I am about that close to buying some some just empty tubes. I know, I know, I have all the specs, I have the nick I make these things go. Yeah, rangell I do need. I also do need a shed, and the government is still boning me on that. You wait a second, wait, wait, wait, wait wait, you have a basement. I do. Well, see here's the issue, all right, and and and and have you ever tried to move a mill down a flight of stairs? Okay, hold up a second. I know that's a rhetorical question, by the way, Yeah, but let let's do some here. People do it. People do? Oh? When I go down a set of stairs in southeast Louisiana. Well, it could start on the second floor. Unless you're going down into a swimming pool. Raggle knows where I'm coming from. No, I like the minute you says down the stairs, I was like, you just teasing me at this point. The main casting for most mills, and I'm going to use a Bridgeport style n EMIL for those of you that don't know what it is, google Bridgeport mill. It'll be the first thing that pops up. It'll be a J series. They're all J serieses that are images that will pop up unless you find a round column, in which case financial you don't need a mill. No, I do. Most of my projects that I have planned, including the twenty two gatling gun, will require a mill. And I have to make a new gatling gun. Buddy. That is that is a can of worms? All right? There is a web There is a YouTube creator called not an Engineer. I think he's in Australia. He is building himself a CNC mill from scratcher in his home shop. The dude is brilliant. He even built all the like control and everything. It has taken him many years. It has taken him many years. I will say, sure, I'm sure you could do it too. You're smart guys, Oh I could. I mean, it's not like they're that mechanically complex. I want a manual one, so why haven't you made one yet? Largely due to the fact that the tools I have aren't capable of making some of the things I need. So I'm making the tools to make the tools to make the things I need to make other tools. This sounds like a very technical way of like the way I get when I'm building, when I'm working on cars and I'm like, I don't have the tool I need to reach that thing. So I'm going to take this and bend it and heat it up and do this and make. It fit right sort of anyway. So the deal. The deal is the mills that are available for sale around me are full size industrial mills. They're not terribly expensive. You can buy one for one thousand or fifteen hundred dollars pretty much every day of the week. What do they cost a ship? Oh no, I can put them on a trailer. I have a trailer that I can use at any time. Not an issue. The issue is unloading it at my house and putting it in the garage where there is no space, or my basement. They're like twenty six hundred pounds, so getting it down to. Some large burly friends, well. I mean, in theory you'd think so. They're also extremely top heavy, and they're surprisingly fragile for what they are. If you tip one over it it's pretty much ruined, you know, upside down it'll be bottom heavy, it would, but that would also be ruined most of the time because of all the delicate bits. I mean, for a cast iron, it's shockingly fragile when you drop it off a trailer. So what you're trying to do is move a very fragile mid nineties Honda Civic down a flight of stairs into a basement that is probably covered in a variety of mechanical lubricants and very shiny razor blades just all over the place. Okay, because I'll sign off on the idea that you need to shed right. I mean, it's it's one of those things where that and the ceiling clearance in this basement is not tall enough. Mm hmm, Like I would have to put the motor up in between the ceiling joists, and that just it would be troublesome to do belt changes. Troublesome, it would. I you really need like an eight and a half foot ceiling minimum for those to really do them, do them correctly. And I don't have an eight and a half foot ceiling in the basement. I've got like seven foot six or seven foot nine something like that, depend on where you are. But what we can find is a bench top style mill, which I'm looking for. And if anybody knows of someone that has a bench top style mill, let me know. Guy. The comments smash the thumbs up to flex on the status cultists exactly. Speaking of status cultists, Yes, there's been some foolishness going on in Ireland, also most of the UK, also a lot of Europe and France in general, Spain, Poland is doing fine. Poland the one place that said send your but we will take no boats. Yes, we will take no boats, will take no migrants, and Poland seems to be doing pretty great, shockingly without all of the violent Third World migrants. So, for those of you that have not known while we were on or do not know, while we were on our MF camping trip or slightly before. According to the UK, an attempted stabbing occurred. A migrant attempted to behead a mentally challenged neighbor in Ireland. That's naughty, Yeah, gouged his eyes out with a knife and then attempted to behead him in the middle of just a public street. And I'm assuming this was over some kind of really egregious, you know, slight that was committed. I've not seen the motive published. I've not been able to find the motive for the what is it African migrant beheading a man in the the streets. Somalian, I've heard Sudanese, I've heard Somalian. I don't know for sure, so I'm not going to claim either one. I know that all of the places he was claimed to be from are in Africa, either Sudan or Somalia or one of the other countries that around there. I don't know that it particularly makes a difference where he's from. It really doesn't. Just for the sake of conversation, Yeah, But what I think matters here is that Number one, the North Irish government, Northern Irish government, and the UK government and most of the European Union in their subsidiary countries have been ignoring the demands of the populace for years now to stop bringing these people into their countries and into their neighborhoods and into their schools where they are let's be honest, raping thousands of people, Like look at the UK grooming thing that just broke in the last two days. How many thousands of women were trafficked back to the Middle East or Africa. Jan It does seem like when you import a culture that views women as cattle and property, this kind of thing might have been foreseeable. You know, you'd like to think it would have been an easily foreseeable consequence, and maybe the idea all along was to spark nationalism and public interest in their own countries. Again, I doubt it. I'm fairly certain this was an attempt at replacement of the native population with a population that will vote for pro status policies. I hate to allege that, but it is starting to seem that way. I mean, is it is, look at what these people vote for from these places. They're heavily corrupt. My one experience with multiculturalism unless we're talking about like American subcultures, which is probably a whole different discussion. American subcultures, I think is a differentferent topic of itself. Yeah, But like my one experience with multicultural culturalism is from Iraq, and as a young, idealistic young man who had been you know, fed at the teat of neo cons for most of his teenage years, I really bought into that whole idea that like, if we just gave them American dollars and Levi's, like we we could americanize or westernize these people. And it took me some. Time to realize that, as with most young people, I was very naive and that the principal problem with trying to westernize or americanize Iraqis is that they don't view themselves as Iraqis to begin with. Nope, they feel like they view themselves as Sunnis, Shia or various other tribal affiliations. And by the way, none of this is meant to be a dig at that culture. It's just the beast of the reality. Yeah, so that the reality is like that that people, the people of that nation, the people of that that area, do not view themselves as Iraqis. Like I might say, I'm from Louisiana, but I'm an American. That is a cultural identity to me, and so does Nick, and so I suspect to do a lot of people in this country view themselves as being American citizens. Sure, And though we might come from different ethnic or religious backgrounds or have different family histories, we have common threads that we through all that because we share a common national identity. And at least a pseudo pseudo common culture, a fairly close to common culture. Yeah, there's regional differences, I mean, how there's regional differences between in the same state. But enough commonalities, Like even even for those people that are like atheists, like you have to acknowledge that there's a tremendous overlap between like our legal theory and like Gudeo Christian values. There's a tremendous overlap between our legal theory and like common law, and you know some of the philosophies of like John Locke, and it's. Almost like their foundational documents. Yeah, and because of that, like we can all find enough in common between us that we can we can identify each other as members of a comic culture. But the problem with the nation of Iraq, and I expect many nations in that area, is that they don't identify themselves as Iraqis. That was the biggest trouble. It was the biggest trouble we had trying to like stand up a government in that area. It was the biggest role we had with trying to stand up a new Iraqi police force. Was like the people didn't want to listen to the chief because he was from a different tribe. And that's not my tribe. He's not my tribal elder. I don't have to listen to him. It's it was the silliest nonsense on earth to young, young twenty something phil that like he's your commander, he's your police chief. He's or whatever. Of course you have to listen to him. But I am operating from a shared cultural identity of where all Americans first and foremost he's been appointed over me. And until I find a really good reason not to listen to him, I'm going to listen to him, not the way things work and most of the rest of the world. And I think that's like, that's a base layer that you have to put on for this conversation because if not, you can't understand how different the culture we're looking at is to our own and why those differences are so stark. And that is before you add. In Islam, is Muslims, whatever, which we've said before, is not a religion, is a political ideology. Well, it's a religion, it is. It's also a political ideology. It's also a judicial framework. One thing. If okay, So, one of my greatest criticisms of Catholicism is that you have the hierarchy of the Papacy. You have a pseudo government being the Vatican. You have land that is Vatican Land not acknowledged to be part of Italy, have a standing army. They have their own law, basically their own set of laws within the walls of the Vatican that they enforce with their own standing army. I kind of have issues with that because now it kind of seems like this religion is acting like a political system or like a political sub subdivision, or you know, they're acting like a political entity because they're why. But that's why, whenever you and I have this conversation about Islam, I say they're a political ideology. They're not a religion because they don't act like a religion. They act like a political, social economic movement. Because of it is it look a thing can be two things at one time. Not all squares or rectangles, all going ales are squares. But going back to our idealistics, phil, I think that when religions start acting like think other things are than religions, I stop calling them religions because I'm like, you're not a religion. There, But it does. It does have a religious. Framework, but you don't get to be a religonion and a political subdivision at the same time. In my book, that's fair. I mean, if we want to operate on those rules, fine. If you want to be a religion, be religion, be concerned about people's immortal souls and all that nonsense. But the minutes you start screwing around in Caesar's backyard with Caesar's money and all that, you have jumped the shark. You're not a religion anymore. Now you're horsing around in corporeal matters that are outside the scope of religion. In my opinion, that's why I've left multiple organized religions over the years, because they started moonlighting in crap that was none of their damn business. In my opinion, that's entirely fair, and we can agree to disagree on that. I mean, it's I think it's a difference in our personal definitions on the subject. That's usually where we disagree. Hey, yeah, and that's totally fine. But the end result is the same. We have a group of people with a political ideology and religious ideology that demands conversion or death, the conquest of the planet, and women are property. Non believers are property you, and that tells them they can do whatever is necessary to steal from, to seize territory, to destroy their opposition. And also that age of consent is somehow a flexible thing, which is really antithetical to Western European cultures or subsidiaries like American culture like we we say that when you touch fourteen year old girls, you go face us into. The wood chipper. Then not everybody sees it that way, which to me is the moment in which I would start questioning why my government is importing thousands or millions of these people into my backyard, because like, cultural incompatibility is a thing. It is, and you know it not to be a dick, but not a whole cultures are created equal. One culture glorifies suicide by bombings and marrying twelve year olds and nine year olds and six year olds I've seen the reports, and the other one advocates for women being able to actively consent and control their life. Women like people because they are people. Yeah, even I get a little squeamish at at like the statement that like not all, not all, one culture is superior to another, But I find. It hard to disagree. Look, I think I think from my point of view, like I don't see an that culture has nothing to do with my culture until it comes in, until it gets imported into the backyard of my culture. And now we have a conflict. Oh absolutely, Like if if, if you want to stay in the part of the world where that culture is dominant and you want to behave like, in my opinion, a statistic bastard. I don't. I disapprove, But it's not my problem. Well, yeah, it's it's not my property, it's not my area, it's not my issue. But when you come to say, in this case Ireland, yes, and a mentally handicapped man assists you in moving into your government subsidized housing that Ireland collectively has paid for, and then you decide to behead that. Man in the street point of order that Ireland stole money from its citizens to pay for True, but Ireland collectively did pay for it one way or another by theft. Sure, okay, by theft. No I'm not. I am not saying that you are wrong. I'm just saying that however that money was gathered, it. Was theft through taxation, it was paid for by the country, and the locals in the country that paid for all of it willingly or not probably not willingly, have all been saying for years now, we don't want the government paying for all of these people to come to the country. Now. I was under the impression, having talked to my coworker quite a lot about Ireland, because that is where he was born and raised. He immigrated here when he was in his mid twenties. I don't know the exact year, but mid twenties. That Ireland has, especially in Northern Ireland, has continued to have employment issues, housing problems, not enough available housing, not enough available jobs, economic issues due to a variety of policies. Why are they bringing over. People that number one don't speak the language so they can't economically integrate if they wanted to, which doesn't seem like they want to. They can't support themselves because they can't integrate into the economy and they're making the housing an employment situation worse on top of adding extra violence to the situation. Look, this is these riots are exactly what you get when the government absolutely refuses, categorically to negotiate with its citizens and good faith and it just says. No, we're doing this, we know what's good for you. People eventually are going to violently no longer consent. Yeah, and I have to admit, like the BBC and the governments of that area just hurling the R word at every bit of this. It's not really tampa anything down or making it go away. Like look, people, people are rightfully pissed off because I mean, call what it is. If you knew a mentally disabled person, you might I don't know, I know, but it's but okay, pick one at random, fairly nice person. Yeah, generally gets a long their body. I would say there are times in which they get overwhelmed because they have a hard time dealing with the complexities of life that they are not equipped to handle. I mean, I'm a forty three year old there. That I sympathize with that exactly. Look, I get overwhelmed by stuff every now and then too, But they have less coping mechanisms than you or I have. Yeah, they could be a little unpleasant at times. It so can we. All, but not deserving of having their eyeballs ouched out and nearly beheaded. Gosh No, absolutely so, at least the ones. So kind of my issue with this, And someone out there could write this off as a singular act of violence not all migrants, yeah to yeah. Yeah, then explain the exploding rape, assault and murder rates all across Europe. Well, I mean, without getting called the R word. I can't. No, you actually can't. And the reason why we actually statistically can't is because most of the European countries refuse to publish the names of the people that do it, the demographics of the individuals that commit these crimes until after they're convicted, usually years later. It's funny how the first thing government does when their statistics destroy the narrative is they stop publishing the statistics. Not just European nations. Our government's really cool about that too. Chicago does this really nifty thing where it's not where it's not a crime if the DA refuses to h to charge you. Chicago also does this really nifty thing when they want to scare the hell everybody about gun violence and how it affects children, is that they start mysteriously treating twenty five year olds like their children. They corpses. Yeah, unfortunately, Chicago considers you a child up to the age of twenty five. Assuming your shot, especially if you're shot within a mile of a school, then it's got the gret shooting of a child. I got to drag this comment from God the comments out, because God, it gets to here so well. He said, at seventeen, you can get sent to war. There are laws in place to have a functioning society, because sometimes it makes sense to convict sixteen year olds as adults, and sometimes it doesn't and sight sidebar. This is part of what pisses me off about governments, because these the literal same group of people want to raise the aged to purchase of firearm to like infinity. I've seen twenty five argued fairly regularly. Yeah, okay, so they want to make it to where you can't purchase farm till you're twenty five. They want to treat you like like I want to voting sixteen, Yeah, and that's kind of weird to me, Like you want to you. But the majority is still going to be eighteen. So at sixteen I can vote. At eighteen, I can legally enter into contracts and the military, and the military I can ostensibly if there's every draft Cain. At eighteen, I can go get my head shot off for a war I probably didn't vote for. And don't really want. You can probably drive it, kim, buy kim, drive a tank and not buy alcohol till you're twenty one, cannot buy a fire until you're twenty five. But you get treated like a child for statistical purposes when the elites see fit. Yes, this is the weirdest mother fing timeline i've ever I could have ever envision where you're on an island, in which case they'll consider you an adult at for Yeah, anyway, sidebar over. I just the mental gymnastics of when we treat people like adults in this country or any other are just I got a simple answer for you for that. Eighteen. No for why the politicians do what they do. Oh, obviously, because it's really what it is. I was going to say, because intellectual consistency is a dead order. Nah, they just do it. They just do it for convenience. I mean, yes, you're right, though, the simple answer to all of these, to a lot of these issues is is eighteen the age of majority? If yes, all things, all rights, all consequences, eighteen Yep. That's kind of what I've been arguing for the longest time, is like I have my own opinions when the age majority is, but whatever the age of majority is, it's the age majority for everything. So if you want sixteen year old votes, then sixteen year olds can go buy a freaking machine gun as far as I'm concerned. And if you don't like that, then I guess we said it. Eighteen. If you're not responsible, if you are responsible enough to set the direction of the country. You're responsible enough for machine guns and rocket launchers. Yeah. I bear it in mind though that like slight sidebar from my history, I had to get parental permission to enlist at seventeen. Because you were not at the age of consent. No, I was seventeen years old. My dad had to sign so that I could go off the base training between my junior and senior year of high school. I came home from base to training after spending ten weeks firing select fire, fricking machine guns and playing with hand grenades. And rockets and crap. And when I came home, I still could not have legally purchased a firearm or bought a beer for myself. And ever since that experience in life, I began to realize there's something weird going on. Oh absolutely. But you know the reason why I wanted you and I to talk about the troubles going on in Ireland right now is how fast this escalated. Oh yeah, I mean within hours. Oh here's the thing though, which, by the way, I'm not trying to be argument by nature. When I have whiskey in my cup, I'm really ranty. But pretty mellow otherwise, but this was high strength coffee because it's been a really weird week at work and for the listeners, it's Thursday, the eighteenth. We just had a tropical storm blow our frigging roof off this morning, so like I was two hours late going to work this morning because I was waiting for the for the ground to stop shaking outside. It's been a wild morning. But anyway, yes, this escalated from this one incident to immediate writing very quickly. Biting the forced migrants. But the reason I cringe went to say, yeah, this escally really fast is like when you have this is not a situation. This one thing might be a watershed moment, but there's been this sentiment brewing for months and months and months, and I have to wonder how much anger has been bubbling up under the serf from under the surface at this and this was just a spark that kicked the powder keg off. You ever hear the phrase history happens a little bit every day and. Then all at once, yeah, otherwise known as the army, the old army saying of hurry up and wait exactly, or or hours of boredom and. Moments of panic or you know days where decades happen, and decades where days happen. There's so many great quotes that come out of that freaking idea. Look the theory of the theory of relativity exactly. Sometimes hours feel like seconds, sometimes seconds feel like hours. This is one of those situations where, yes, the resentment has been building for a very long time, the government has been ignoring its people for a very long time. A lot of the warning signs were there, and we're seeing a lot of those same warning signs in the US surrounding something slightly different this time. It's the team takeovers we're seeing in various locations, famous locations, beaches, various vacation locations, restaurants. Look for the boomers out there. What does the team takeover? Because it's not exactly like a bunch of teams just breaking out spontaneous fun. It is an organized mobbing that it's usually it's it's an organized flash mob. That is that's intent is violence and destruction from the ground up. You can tell me it's yeah, you can tell me it's not. But every single one of these team takeover actions either destroys property, ends in looting, or ends in vandalism, usually all of the above, sometimes with a Scotia murder on the side. I mean, you know what's a little murder when you're out having fun? Look it. If the government does not begin begin going back to applying the laws of the common laws that we all supposedly have to follow to these people, individuals are going to start taking their own action, and that is going to end poorly. I mean, I've told you in private, away from the murder screens, on multiple occasions that my willingness to follow. You know, most of the laws are totally contingent upon whether or not my wife and daughter's happiness and well being continues to be respected. Right the second it comes to your door, all of the rules are out the window, because it doesn't matter if you were right or wrong if you're dead. Yeah, and you don't know which time that this group of one hundred and fifty teenagers that is destroying the restaurant that you happen to be eating in are going to be the ones that just vandalize the place or they also going to be the ones that do a murder or two while they're here. You mean, I look, I. Have had this argument with people over and over and over, and admittedly, like within my coworkers, my friend group, my associates and everything, like, I talk to people who are all the way one side of the political spectrum all the way to the other. And I do get those people that are like, well, if they're not trying to hurt you, they're just trying to break stuff, like why would you. Pull a gun out? Why? Why would you that? And my answer is consistently always the same because at that moment where someone is doing violence in my proximity, in my family's proximity, whether we are at a restaurant or whether we're at a grocery store, or whether I am in my home, the moment you start doing violence to include kicking the front door, and that's a violent act. It is. I have no ability or right to assume the best of you. I have to assume the worst and react appropriately to guard my family. Unless I'm just someone here has developed the ability to be telepathic. Contrary to what I'm contrary to what my wife has said for two decades now, I cannot read minds, not hers, not anybody else. So if you start doing dumb stuff in my presence, I'm going to assume you intend to hurt my wife and my daughter. I'm going to react poorly, very very very poorly, because I have no right to place them in further jeopardy or danger. To assume the best of you. I assume if you're willing to break stuff and set fires and you know, hurt people, you're probably willing to hurt my people. And I'm going to react poorly. And that's kind of the That's kind of like the issue I see here, that is the commonality between what's happening in Ireland and what's starting to happen here in the US is like we've seen these instances where there are these flash mobs. Then they do commit violence, and they do commit vandalism and theft and everything else, and usually what winds up happening is that the DA and the police and that area just say oopsies and don't do anything about it, which you can't do. Anymore because there's too many of them. And then after that store suffers enough losses that they finally get tired of freaking getting their teeth kicked in financially, they shut the store down, and then they get Lambay asked it for shutting the store down. Because how dare you not serve our community? And it's like your community wouldn't stop stealing from us, and your freaking police wouldn't do anything about it. Yeah, you know, sooner or later. Think things happen. There's reactions to things. Guy, the comments. Grifters and neptists think they're untouchable because they historically have been. For the last fifty years, they kind of have been. Look at all these boomer politicians that are finally starting to lose and retire. Great, they've been winning this game for the entirety of mine and my parents' lives, with no consequences, with no meaningful consequences. Pelosi has been doing insider trading longer than I've been a conscious entity. You remember when I said at one point that, oh Jesus Christ, I lost my train of thought that fast. My bad, am I even drinking. You know what? You also lost? What the admin work? Yeah, I gotcha. We can hit it at the end. Oh, I was gonna say, have you seen the meme on Instagram? Comes every now and that always gives me a chuckle. And it's a picture of the back of a cement truck and the title just reads me backing up to the bunker after the world has ended. Oh yeah, yeah, basically saying that when the elites and the grifters and the nepotass when they lock themselves in their bunkers to say, screw off everybody else. You're on your own. And somebody's like, there's a cement truck right there. You're not coming out of there. Ah, here's here's a go one, Jeff. There are too many of them. Yet they were able to fly across the country and arrest everyone that was at DC in January sixth Thousands of people can't handle hundreds of teenagers. Yeah. They don't arrest them because they don't want to. Yeah, they arrest you because they know you probably won't resist. And here's kind of here's kind of the there. Here's a gear of parallel here. More than just the violence and just the the organized violence and the complete flouting of the law, there is also an aspect of two tier justice system here. Oh absolutely, And we've seen that in our nation and in other nations, where certain people do things they're not supposed to and their handle with kid gloves. Look at the seekh knife exception. Oh you mean where the poor sob they got stabbed, was literally put in handcuffs and allowed to bleed out while they caught molly coddle to freakin the migrant that stabbed him because he said he said a racist thing to me, uh huh, because rast by the way. Racism is worse than stabbing a man to death. And by the way, I just have to take one little potshot at our English cousins, even though I'm French, so they're. Not They're not my people. Did that man not have any surviving family members? Because if if this were like my sister or one of my brother in laws or one of my sister in laws that this happened to, I would have irrational things in my mind, in my heart, whatever, rational things when I know what it's like, violently rational in my opinion, that's the weird part of it. Though. It's like at a at a certain point, the populace is going to see enough of two tier justice system. They're going to see enough of their will being disrespected by their politicians. They're going to see enough of the laws that to some degree I'm assuming they believe in, Like there's plenty of laws Nick, you and I think are stupid but then there's some laws like you know, don't kill people, don't rape them, don't hit them, don't steal from them, really basic stuff that like it sounds like a great idea to me. I like that law. I think we should all respect that. So when we end up in the situation where there's this group of people that have been forcibly imported into my backyard who don't respect laws that I kind of hold near and dear to my heart, it creates a friction point. And then I complain to the government, Hey, I don't like it's not to have a problem with those people, but if they come here, I want them to respect my law. It's I don't like their behavior. Yeah, that's what's not it. And yet the thing we keep hearing is is like, well, it's not it's not their behavior that bothers you, it's their skin color. As if there's never been black and brown people marching around the streets of fricking Ireland or England before. I mean, I don't think people understand. Fland was one of the most multicultural nations on the planet as early as the seventeen hundreds. Yes, because it was, and this is this is something I don't think a lot of people understand. And you can apply laws to the US as well. But like in England, because of the system, because of their imperial system and the number of colonies they had, it was not uncommon for members of those colonia of that colonial empire to come to England and they were treated as British citizens because they practically. Were though they they by law they were British citizens as long as they weren't Americans, correct, they weren't Americans. Well, yeah, you know we we did different rebellion. Well no, that's the whole reason we did the rebellion because they wouldn't treat us like British citisms. If they would just. Treating us worse, yeah, it would have been. But that's the wacky part to me, man, Like, I know, America doesn't make a whole lot of sense most of the time. The world doesn't make a lot of sense because the world is full of people and people don't. Make a lot of sense. But but that's. Why, that's why that this charge about this one instance in Ireland, and what's happening in England and in Spain and in Germany and in all across Europe and here in the US. The charge that the the uproar to this is based strictly in racism and bigotry is the stupidest freaking thing on earth to me, because down here, in in down here in the Deep South, on the Gulf Coast, I know enough of this this area's history to know that there were some pretty dark days for certain people. And and I would like to think that the average person has tried their absolute best to free and move on past that and that sentiment of those ideas and try to view people based on their character and their actions rather than the color of their skin. But here's the problem. If we do what they told us to do for decades for such was treat people based on their actions. Yeah, if we treat people based on their actions, now, if it's the wronger, you're racist because I'm holding them to the same standard I hold myself. You know, I did have a conversation with my wife total cybar again, because I do that apparently when I'm working down coffee. I had to talk with my wife and I've had it with my daughter too, by the way, I told them, like, you know, because I believe so much inequality. I believe that everyone has the same abilities I do. Everyone has the same potential I do. Everyone can do the same things I do. It might be harder or easier for you. You might be a little more a little less intelligent. Look, I'm not going to play in the NBA. I'm five foot eleven and chunky, and I can't jump that high. Maybe if I really work my butt off at I'd be able to, but it's just not my natural You're not bust to scrugs. But the point is there are people out there who have more abilities in that realm than I do. So I don't immediately say that, well, the NBA is racist, it's white people. I just say chubby guys that have a hard time jumping are not uniquely adept or not naturally adept at that thing unless they put an extra work. But the point is that because I view everyone in the same lens as if I did it, you could probably do it too. Yeah, I too, is in a restaurant and burn it to the ground with one hundred and fifty random other people, or gouge out some random guy's eyeballs and try to saw his head off with a rusty fork. Yeah, like to make itze I don't remember what it was from my point of view. And again this goes back to like the same kind of analysis I made of iraq Iraqis don't see themselves as being Iraqis. They see themselves as. Being part of a tribe, or part of a religious group, or part of a family or whatever. If the people who are, if the people who are committing these crimes in any of these countries in clear violation of that nation's laws, if they view themselves as being distinctly separate from having to abide by those laws, then we have a natural flashpoint where people are going to get a little impatient and say, hold on a second, I'm supposed to abide by those laws. You are too, why aren't you. And then the government says, oh, no, no, they don't have to, and you're evil for thinking that the law applies to them, when the entire precedent there, the entire point of Western common law is based on equality under the law. The law applies to us all theoretically, hmm, in theory at least, that's that is the founding principle. Like whether or not it's applied, you can't argue that that's not one of the founding principles of Western common laws, that the law applies to us all equally. It's never really worked out that way. Let's call it what it is. If you come from the right family, whether it's Kennedy or Pelosi, or Clinton or Clinton's or Bush. George got up to some wild stuff back in college. Dare I say Trump one hundred percent Trump? If you come from the right family, with the right amount of money behind you and the right connections, you can pretty much flaunt whenever law you freaking want. Biden, everything is legal for a fee. That's why there are fines. Yeah, because it's fine if you do it's fine if you pay for it. Yeah, And that that's that's kind of my gripe here though, Ma'm is like, how long can. So we have a couple of I have a couple of gripes here. Immigration without assimilation is not. Immigration, No, it's not. It's invasion. When when when my family came to this country, actually, my family came to this area before, before it was America. Fair enough. We woke up one morning, we're like, oh, we're actually we started off as Frenchman. I don't even know if the rabbles realized they were under Spanish control because it lived so far in the backwoods Louisiana. They woke up one morning they were like, oh, we're that you purchased Louisiana. That's frozen. Oh no, But you know, like. The Rabbleys came here with the intention of making a life in the New World. I know this from my own personal history or you know, the my own like a couple of generations back family history. But like my grandfather was one of the was one of the first generations to go to English speaking schools, specifically and was directly and specifically discouraged from from speaking Cajun French anywhere it except at home because his parents believe rightfully, So if you don't learn English, it's always going to hold you back. You're never gonna be able to year, it's going to hold you back from certain jobs. You have to learn speak English as a primary language. Now still with a tiny little bit of an accent, I can hear it, Yeah, but speaks very good English from what I understood from him when I was younger. His father didn't learn English. Until he was in his forties. And why the hell would you in that part of Louisiana at that time period, no one spoke English. Yeah, but. Times were changing. My point is is that there was this idea that we are here to assimilate. We are here to like remember our own culture and like where we come from, but we're here to be Louisianians and Americans, and we're here to immigrate into this culture. And every time I've seen people immigrate to the United States using the correct channels, going through the process as as asked backwards as it is, and I'll happily admit that there's problems with it, no doubt those But those people, by far and large, they are the quickest to shed their old national identity, their old culture and assemblate into American culture because they came here wanting to be Americans. Yeah, and that I feel like is part of the bargain. It's like, you know, ever liberals left the point at the Statue liberty and say, well, what happened to give us you're tired and you're poor and downtown that's I blame on the French. That was not an American thing. That was the French. But here's the other part of the bargain. Yes, give us you're tired, you're poor, you're downtrodden. Give us the people you don't give. Us, Jodson Burglars say the French. I mean, yes, the French did give us a lot of prostitutes. That's fine. But give us those people and then let us turn them into Americans so that we can call them our countrymen, not bring in a foreign culture that maintains its own culture that has countered ours. If you come here, we rightfully expect for you to immigrate to assembly into our culture. And that's a very fair thing that the Irish are demanding of this, and they're not getting it. And what's worse is not only are they're not getting it from the people that are immigrating to their backyard, but they're being actively and continually told by their government you have no right to expect it in the first place. And that's going over like a turd in a punch bowl. Yeah, And I think we're gonna see more of this in Europe, I really do. I don't think this situation is going to get better in Europe because I don't think the governments, despite the fact that a lot of more further right governments are beginning to be elected in a lot of these countries. It's gonna take a long time to unwind these policies, and it's gonna take a long time to get rid of the people that refuse to assimilate and refuse to buy by the laws. Yeah, but the first thing it's gonna take is like an actual, honest to God attempt to do anything about it. And I don't I don't even know what the path forward is for people to convince their government to do the right thing here, Like, I don't know either. I wish I had an answer for that. I really do not, because voicing your grievances does not seem to be working voting in any country. Voting might work if you vote on all the people that stand for these policies, we'll see. But you and I already talked about that. Though. The problem, part of the problem in Ireland and the UK is part of the problem we have too, and that is that there's a there's a group of people actively voting for more of this who have decided that they are going to vote for it and support it, but they're going to insulate themselves from it as well. And there's people that are voting for this because they want to burn the bitch down. Yes, I've been hearing that from conservatives to a shocking degree because Trump has accelerationism. Oh yeah, Trump has stopped being what he was elected to be. I mean, that's fair criticism. I was literally further away from it the longer he's been in office. I told my daughter the other day that because in the name of full disclosure, like she is, she's reaching an age where politics and social ideas and everything are becoming the topic du jour amongst you know, her class's kids. I'm very conscious of it. Yeah, yes, And. I commented she was commenting that, like somebody was just a hate Trump. I hate Trump. I hate Trump for all these different reasons, you know, Nazi and fascist and Yetti Idia. And I told my daughter, I'm like, you know, it's hilarious. They don't like Trump because they think he's too far to the right. And I don't like Trump because he's nineteen nineties Bill Clinton, and our perspectives on this one single man and his actions are so friggin opposite. I don't know how we. Ever rectify them. I don't think you can, except. That when you have like a young teenage left leaning person and a forty three year old. I don't know what the hell. I am a politically homeless person and we both don't like the same person for totally opposite reasons. What do you have? How bad do you have to screw up at your job that those two desparirate groups people both dislike you. I will say his. First term did a lot of things that I liked. Early in this term did a lot. Of things that I liked. I think he I think for all of his I think for all of the screw ups that I am watching him commit in real time. By the way, and I have to admit I got really twisted up on Trump when Thomas Massey got primaried. The amount of the amount of money that got dumped into that election to push him out. Really rubbed me the wrong way. And I know that there's people out there that are like, well, you know, Massy was this, mass was that. But let me just harp on Raggle for a second. But Ragle said, the reason, the reason that like I can't figure out politically where I am is because I'm an individual. And I think that's what I liked about Thomas Massey. He was going to agree with Trump on some things. And disagree with him on other things because he had his own individual viewpoint. And I like the idea that we have a government that does disagree with itself and they have to argue things, and they have to compromise, and they have to like win the battle of ideas to convince your your your fellow, your fellow voting member, your fellow congress person, like, hey, this is what we should do, or hey, maybe we have a little of your idea, a little bit idea we put together, we have a better plan. I don't like the idea that when someone bucks you, the answer is I just. Dumped millions of dollars into that election. To have you forced out that. Yeah, that that does bother me as well. And that's before we even get to the allegations that, like there was foreign money that came into that election. There definitely seems like there was quite a bit of foreign money that got pushed into that election, and which which is one nation in particular. Which is really weird to me because I remember a president getting damn there in heached on the back of some allegations like that, and now the very same people that cried foul at that are freaking blind deaf and dumb to what has just happened. Yeah, it's it's a serious issue, and it's not. I don't think it is being treated in the public or in the government with the seriousness that it really is due. Absolutely not. But you know what's but you Noah was fun. Once Massey realized that his days were numbered. He got just dropping the mic on everybody. Because what does he have to lose at this point? Yeah, are you gonna clin them? Are you gonna freaking JFKM? I dare you? Yeah? But he is. He's walking up to everyone's table, dropping receipts, slapping him across the face, and then walking off without saying another word. Good. That's what we want people like him to do. Yeah, I just wish he could do it for another term. Sure, Yeah, I bet a lot of us do. And you know what, just because he lost this time doesn't mean he can't run again. I mean this is true. Look, there's no term limits for those folks. There's not a guy that comments. Don't play with me. He would never be allowed to win. I know at this point, like what what we need for my wildest fever dream to come true and have a third party win the presidency is a complete and total breakdown of society because we would need to do Trump. Running again, an AOC running with Kamala on the ticket for a third term. That's what would get a third party candidate elected. I mean, we got we we had. It looked like we had a shot there for a second with Robert F. Kennedy. It did. Kennedy did very well for a third party candidate. Yeah, I don't know, man. You know the one reason I really shy away from I was saying, no, dude, it's the only way it's going to happen is if we have something like that, or if Nick, or if we have an issue where four or five candidates are running on the Democrat side and four or five candidates are running on the Republican side and we. Have one independent run Nick. Nick's superpower is to come up with the best possible ideas and the worst possible ideas. Nothing. No idea I've ever heard come out of Nick is like middle rough milk toes. No, it's either outstandingly outstanding or awfully awful. Look, my brain is really good at finding edge cases. I don't know a lot, but it is. And some of them are very entertaining. But yeah, I mean, like I was gonna say, like, the reason I really shy away from doing topics like this, though, man is like I hate to do doom and gloom for freaking an hour and then say, well, there's nothing we can do to fix it. But in recent we do to fix it. To vote your local elections, because. That's a place where you can actively make a measurable difference in a large way. And I will say, fifty to one hundred votes is usually all you have to do to swing a local election. I mean, most county board member votes are decided by less than. Fifty And I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell you, from my perspective, the positions that have the most swing judges yep, District attorneys, and county or parish sheriffs. County has an awful lot of power around here. County sheriff has a ton of power and a ton of respect yep. But I mean, like we've we've been fortunate in this parish that we have had like a string of fairly fairly good, fairly competent sheriffs in a row. And as a matter of fact, this so I live in Saint Hamny Parish. It is known colloquially as Saint Slamony. The the the rumor is is you don't want to come up here and do foolishness because you will go to prison. Good like sheriff to do. That's what you come to do. If you come up here and you commit murder and mayhem and stupid stuff, you are definitely going to prison. I do if you did that. One sheriff in Florida that keeps getting re elected that just constantly goes on the news and says, if you riot here, I will advocate for the public to shoot you. If you loot here, you will be shot. Yes, killed him. They ran him over with with a bear cat. Have you what is his name, Clay Higgins? Have you run across him? Yeah? You do know where he came from, right before he was a person Louisiana law enforce fantastic look he he he is. I mean, just do some googling on his his history. He has a very well deserve reputation for tolerating exactly zero foolishness. And you know what that that's what their job is. Their job is to apply the law as it is written. YEP. And you have to have a DA who will prosecute and a judge who won't just give people a smack on the wrist and let them off, so that you can actually have like a functioning, freaking society. I do believe that there is a point at which, like I'm going to be the one to say that there are certain laws that I think are frankly freaking ridiculous to prosecute. I really wish I could be on every one of those juries just so I could hang them, so that those those things would never result in another person going to prison because they're freaking dumb. But we have to have some kind of basis of law and order in this country where we don't have a functioning society unless we can all agree here and now that we don't want to live in a high trust society anymore, because if we want to go that route, I am aokay solve of my problems myself, but I just don't think nobody else wants to go there. I don't think anybody really wants to go there, and I don't think you do either. I'll be real honest with you, but you and I've had this conversation before. There there are moments in time where I'm like, Okay, Like, if that's the way we have to if that's if that is what I have to do to maintain my family safety, I am. I'm not happy about it, but I'm comfortable. Going to that. Oh, I get where you're at. Look, I'll play by the rule. I will most of the time play by the rules of the game as long as I'm allowed to understand the rules of the game. Because I don't change mid game. Yeah, I can manipulate the rules of the game to my advantage pretty much wherever I feel like it. Most rules have loopholes, and you can skate those lines pretty pretty aggressively for your own advantage. A politician student all the time. You should too, really look into tax law. But shifting to that style of rule set is going to be a massive drop in quality of life for most people, if not all of us. And I think that's the thing of it is that until until we end up in a situation where this kind of like willful allowance of mayhem, until that ends up touching the people who are currently advocating for it, I don't see this changing. No. I think I think you need someone getting smoked in Martha's vineyard or you need someone someone. They got rid of the illegals that were dropped off in Martha's vineyard hours. Bus bust their asses right on now, didn't they? No One, no one decided to open up their their nice, cushy little mansions to them. Shock. But I think, but I think that's my issue. Like the entire issue of the southern border being wide open in this country, that didn't turn into a problem until Texas got creative and started busting them to every sanctuary city that they could send a bus to. All of a sudden, places like New York and Chicago start flipping out saying, whoa wha wa, we can't take care of all these people, and it's like, what. The hell makes you think Texas can? But I think that's the issue, is that like, until until this touches the people who are currently promoting those policies directly and inconveniences them, doesn't even. Have to threaten thom mild inconvenience. I don't think that. I don't. You and I have talked about this before. Why do I think the Epstein list will never be prosecuted because the people on the list would burn the world to ash before they would suck for a moment's inconvenience. Yeah, just not allowing them to touch kids is enough to make them want to burn the world ash because they just will not accept the fact that they have to be treated like cleaves and respect laws. So I think if we can find a way as a society to make the things that are bothering us mildly inconvenience the people who are in our government who are allowing this nonsense to go on, I bet it changes pretty quick. Yep, that's really what it'll be. That's what it'll come down to. It will take it. It will take a number of these team takeover incidences happening in major wealthy areas. Yes, Finance District in New York, Martha's Vineyard, pick a few fancy ritzy vacation spots on the East Coast or the West coast. We stop California. Oh yeah, they if they start seizing and destroying wealthy individuals' homes in the hills of California. You want to you want to see a crackdown, It'll happen fast. Yeah, they're only and watch what My only frustration is, It would only happen in those areas, because let's call what it is, there are groups of people out there that don't really give a damn if the average person gets harmed by any of that. So two things, Stuart, I'm not starting over. I can't. Is this like an hour and middle to start the admin work before the end of the show. No, okay, I'll start the admin work, but I'm not starting over the whole podcast, and only that because Nick somehow managed to gave it to an hour and eight minutes without bringing it up. And get. Guy the comments before I do the admin work and rollout, because we're gonna do this whole show bass Actwards. I had an idea years ago that I think would be hilarious and it'll never happen, but it would solve I suspect most of our problems in this country. So Guy the comments aid smart move on Texas. If you support a policy or law, you got to finance it. So in Poli Sci one oh one in college and I still to this day remember that teacher Samdalo, awesome dude, taught me a lot, but he did this thing where like at least one class every week would just be he would throw talk to the class and you had to argue your idea or your point around that topic. And it was it was a poly side, one on one class. But his point of view was he said, political science is all about ideas and be able to articulate and argue your ideas. So that's what we're going to do in this class is argue about stuff, you know, with guide rails, like you can't call people ist and stupid stuff or start assassinating character because you can't beat them at their idea of those sorts of things. And we were having a discussion about tax and spending, and I being the the rogue twenty two year old in the class of all these eighteen year old kids, I was like, I got a perfect way to fix this whole problem. You can fix tax and spending both in one maneuver. And Sam's like, I'll bite what you're thinking. And I was like, what we do is we take the federal budget, like this is how much money we want to spend, and then we break it up evenly across all the people in the United States. It's no more graduated tax plan. If it's if there's three hundred and thirty million people, we want to spend three hundred and thirty million dollars three hundred and thirty million dollars. Just make the math work. I know that it doesn't work like that. Then you get presented with a dollar tax bill. Everybody pays exact same amount, and yes, that means the millionaire gets a lot more money. You know, the millionaire comparatively has more money he can don't need extra money to the government if he really feels urged too. But everyone's gonna get taxt same. But here's where we make this weird. You don't have to pay the tax bill unless you elect to. What you do is you say, one dollar is my share, and I get to decide what line item in the federal budget I want to fund. So if I'm really big on national devents. I put my monkey. I put one hundred percent of my money in military. If I think social welfare programs are not positive, I put one hundre percent of my money in welfare or social security. Or I put money into this, or I put money into that. I tell the government, here's my contribution, you spent on exactly this. It took less than ten seconds for another classmates to jump up and say. But wait a minute. That means all this stuff that I like wouldn't get funded, And I'm like, no, it'd get funded. You would just have to fund it because you think it's a good idea, and I don't. Why should I be required to pay for the items you think are important. You can pay for them, man. If you believe in it enough, you can convince all of our fellow classmates to fund that too. And if you can't, it's because the people don't want their freaking money spent on it. And if I'm a bath and if I'm just a greedy bastard that doesn't like paying taxes, I take my dollar back. In the military and the social welfare nobody gets funded and the government doesn't have money because I don't think y'all are spending my money properly. None of the things on the budget going to use it appropriately. None of the things that were presented to me sounded like anything I wanted my money spent on. So I kept my dollar and didn't send it in Texas spending fixed In one maneuver, I had the distinct pleasure of watching conservatives and liberals in that classroom all loser crap at the exact same time. It would have upset so many Apple cards. Oh, everybody was. Everybody was mad. People on the lever mad people are the briber a bad I mean my teacher trick and my teacher is like he is trying his best to suppress laughter. He he was actually a person told me I should have run for public office, and I told him, like, I would get a sassed it. Well, they would just never allow you to run. They'd find some meaningless disqualification. Yeah, I mean they would. They would trot some some random woman out to accuse me of something awful from fifteen years ago that I can't defend myself against and she can't prove, because that's just what they do when they want somebody run. Out apologize absolutely. But yeah, that was that was my idea to fix tax and spending a one maneuver, and it will never happen because God forbid the government gives up that control. Yeah, they would not do that. Okay, since work, since Nick is completely and totally screwed me on this freaking deal, and I guess part is my fault. I didn't do any banners, which meant I had no reason to look at the banners and I totally goofed this up, but that's okay. We will we will not make the same mistake twice. If you'd like to. Promote bad decisions by becoming a patron that links in the show description, You can be a patron. You can support Madness, Mayhem and tom fool like making me forget to do the freaking admintwork and come get the legend on the summer camping trip. Buy a bottle of bourbon. Yeah yeah, yeah, a little bit of bludgeoning though a little If you'd like to buy merch for the vibes from the Southern gals. We were discussing funny T shirt ideas, but I don't think any of us wrote them down, and we were all inebriated at the time. So there were a couple that was the did you write them down? Welding class, Oh yeah, the frenchtry appreciation with the wait givotin on the back. It was French carpentry enthusiasts, that's right, French carpentry enthusiasts on the front, and then a guillotine on the back and then Granby Community College welding program with eighteen months of completion. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I. Remember those because I was not nearly as drunk as some of the other participants. Yes, but the longer the discussion went on, the more the liquor flowed, and the more there forgetting happened. So those two, though, we need to circle around to Chris and talk about getting some art and everything to your for though he's hearing this. If he's not, we'll start harassing him later. 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Hopefully it doesn't get high enough that. So before we roll out. The last time the Pearl. River did this, like got really really really really really high. Uh, the range officers had to fish the shooting benches out of the woodline because the Pearl went whoo and floated all those wooden shooting. Benches into the woods. That's problematic. Also, everyone says it's June is June January marthrowe May June. Yeah, it is sp I've been dude. I've been doing freaking financial reconciliation all friggin all freakin day, and like I've been looking at July dates the whole time. So got good news from my range that I'm a member of. They've upgraded the concealed Carrie Bay. We've now got five steel targets, some of them with azone poppers, some of them with headshot poppers, some of them with hostage poppers. So we're gonna go have some fun. They're putting them in on Saturday. So when are you going to do the hostage shrill with a flamethrower. I don't think they have a rule against using flamethrowers. This sounds like an opportunity for a new range rule. Look, look, everybody, it's never it's never a war crime the first time. Exactly. It's never against the rules until it's explicitly stated. We'll see. Yep, yep, yep, all right, matter of facts, going out the door and out our body. Don't forget your coffee and talk to you another week. Take it easy, good night Under