Matter of Facts: Road Trip

[00:00:00] Welcome back to the Matterfax Podcast on the Prepper Broadcasting Network. We talk prepping

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[00:00:17] partners. I'm your host Phil Rabbley and my co-host Andrew Bobo is on the airside

[00:00:20] of the mic and here's your show. Welcome back to Matterfax.

[00:00:24] Oh hi!

[00:00:26] This isn't Andrew.

[00:00:27] It's not.

[00:00:28] Andrew got tied up so I got my much prettier co-host to join me.

[00:00:33] Thank you. I'm here. I'm physically here. I'm very tired. But I'm here to help you.

[00:00:41] Well, and to talk about the topic which is road trips, which this is actually something

[00:00:46] that one of our patrons Kyle dropped on us recently because you know it's we just

[00:00:52] finished out springtime at least for our area. Summer's coming up everybody's going

[00:00:56] on vacations and road trips. And this topic tends to come up pretty much every year of

[00:01:02] how does the preparedness minded person handle a road trip, which Pryceans hilarious to

[00:01:07] everybody that's not in this mindset because you just you know your biggest concern is

[00:01:11] make sure you pack all your clothes and everything. But for those of us who are

[00:01:15] a little weird and preparedness minded there's extra steps involved in something

[00:01:22] like leaving home where most of your preps are for a prolonged period of time.

[00:01:27] You know, but we have to do administrative work first because if not I will absolutely

[00:01:32] forget. OK, so I know you wanted to remind everybody that women's prep

[00:01:36] conferences coming up. Yes. Hang on. Let me I wasn't prepared.

[00:01:40] I'm sorry. Phil was talking to me and I wasn't listening.

[00:01:44] But yes, that is the mark of a good spouse when you can put your you can put

[00:01:48] your spouse to sleep just by speaking to them. It happens all the time.

[00:01:54] I get so you just your voice just made me to sleep.

[00:01:58] Dig yourself out of this whole thing.

[00:02:00] All right, so the women who prep conference is in eight days.

[00:02:04] So it is an online event from April 20th through the 23rd and my affiliate link

[00:02:11] is still up in the description of the raising values Facebook and Instagram

[00:02:18] pages so you can go to the link tree and you can purchase your tickets there.

[00:02:23] It does not have to you don't have to be a woman to attend,

[00:02:26] but it is geared more towards women.

[00:02:30] There will be access to 15 plus sessions on various preparedness

[00:02:37] and homestead topics, a mix of live and recorded conference sessions,

[00:02:41] community group just for attendees that's off social media.

[00:02:46] There will be pre-conference live chats in the community,

[00:02:49] giveaways, games and prizes and you get recorded access through July 2024.

[00:02:55] So you don't have to attend the three days of the actual event.

[00:03:00] You can access everything until July.

[00:03:04] So you want to get those tickets and like I said,

[00:03:08] it's eight days away is online.

[00:03:09] You can show up in your pajamas or whatever

[00:03:15] and that's being put on by this prepared life.

[00:03:17] Allison over at this prepared life is on Instagram

[00:03:22] and so you can follow along the women who prep on Instagram

[00:03:26] and Allison with this prepared life on Instagram.

[00:03:28] And Phil and I did a session on prepping with kids,

[00:03:32] which is always something that we like to talk about

[00:03:34] because it's something that's near and dear to our hearts.

[00:03:37] And I also did a

[00:03:41] panel discussion on urban and suburban prepping, so that'll be fun.

[00:03:46] But yeah, and I think I might be in the live Q&A at the end of the conference,

[00:03:50] but I'm not sure yet. So yeah.

[00:03:52] And you know, the women who prep conference to me is one of those situations

[00:03:57] where like for years, a lot of us in the preparedness community,

[00:04:00] just like the farms community kind of bemoaned the fact that

[00:04:04] it for a lot of years, it was a boys club.

[00:04:06] And like I would like to think that like most of us in those communities

[00:04:10] recognized very early on we have to have female voices in this lifestyle

[00:04:15] because quite frankly, y'all think of things we don't.

[00:04:18] And I know from having spoken to a lot of people who are into preparedness

[00:04:23] and like they're the man doing the prepping and the wife and the kids

[00:04:26] want nothing to do with it.

[00:04:27] And that makes things infinitely more difficult.

[00:04:31] Yeah, not just not just like financially

[00:04:33] because you have to justify it to the people who don't understand it,

[00:04:35] but emotionally, you know, like you don't have anybody to bounce those ideas off

[00:04:39] of you don't have anybody to give you their check on your,

[00:04:43] you know, your ideas, you're just kind of going at it blind.

[00:04:47] Like I've told many people and I've had I've had a lot of men ask me

[00:04:50] like how did you get your wife into this?

[00:04:51] And I'm like, well, mostly stubbornness, but,

[00:04:54] you know, it's it's a great thing when you can when we can get women

[00:04:59] of all ages into this lifestyle because, you know, some of those women are going

[00:05:04] to be your moms, your spouses, your girlfriends, your daughters.

[00:05:09] And they need to know how to watch out

[00:05:11] for themselves as much as everybody else does.

[00:05:13] Yeah, and I also like to point out that

[00:05:16] on raising values, we did an episode with Holly,

[00:05:19] Kyle's wife, who

[00:05:23] was the brainchild of this episode, for a matter of fact.

[00:05:26] But we did a giveaway for one registration on raising values and Holly won it.

[00:05:32] And so we did a before the before show.

[00:05:34] So we did we're going to do a before and after the conference.

[00:05:37] And so Holly came on and we had a really great discussion with her.

[00:05:43] So I encourage you to go check that out on raising values.

[00:05:47] It's a I think it's probably been about a week or two now since we talked to Holly

[00:05:51] on raising values.

[00:05:52] So if you if you're not following us over there, you need to go over to raising

[00:05:58] values and listen to that episode too.

[00:06:00] So we talked a lot about prepping with the family.

[00:06:04] And so yeah, and then we'll do a follow up after the conference is complete

[00:06:08] or after she's after she's attended her classes and stuff, which may be not

[00:06:13] until July. Yeah.

[00:06:15] And since we're talking about preparedness and classes,

[00:06:17] Prepper Camp is coming up in September.

[00:06:19] I'm so excited.

[00:06:20] Unlike women who prep, I can tell you that, you know, the event has not sold out yet.

[00:06:26] It almost certainly will because it does.

[00:06:29] It has every year for quite a few years.

[00:06:33] It's in Salute in North Carolina last week of September, if I recall correctly,

[00:06:38] last week in a September.

[00:06:40] And if you want information, it's preppercamp.com.

[00:06:43] It's not hard to find.

[00:06:44] The best thing I can tell you those that if you're looking for like the true

[00:06:48] prepper camp experience to get a campsite, go out there.

[00:06:52] You know, like it is what I advise

[00:06:54] first timers to do if they're able to, like if you can camp and if you can't

[00:07:00] get an Airbnb or something in the area, but the ability to be based close to

[00:07:04] there where you don't have a several hour drive home means that in the

[00:07:09] evenings, you have the ability to like find knuckleheads like us who were

[00:07:14] hanging out.

[00:07:15] Usually we're out there around a campfire, you know, like passing around bourbon

[00:07:19] and talking and just busy and getting to know each other until 10, 11, 12 o'clock

[00:07:22] at night, a lot of nights.

[00:07:23] So

[00:07:25] to be able to come in just for the day and then get the classes and go home

[00:07:29] is one layer to this experience, but the ability to like stay and participate,

[00:07:34] especially on Saturday night where they have all the all the actual

[00:07:38] prepper camp sponsored activities late into the evening.

[00:07:41] Like we'll have a keynote speaker.

[00:07:43] I think usually they do like a movie night and it's a lot of fun if y'all can attend.

[00:07:47] It is a lot of fun.

[00:07:48] I'm excited about it.

[00:07:49] We've got some people that are going this year that haven't been before.

[00:07:54] And I think our group up on the hill has grown so much that we can't fit

[00:07:59] everybody on the hill anymore.

[00:08:01] So I almost hesitate to even call it our group at this point because I mean,

[00:08:05] you've got like, you know, you've got that whole group that kind of,

[00:08:10] I guess, started off around the Matterfax podcast.

[00:08:14] And then you get the whole group from prepper broadcasting network and several

[00:08:18] people that go out there to help support them for the weekend because most of

[00:08:21] them are running vendors booth and they're teaching classes.

[00:08:24] And then like every year we pick up strays, you know, like we're pretty

[00:08:29] welcoming group of people and inevitably we wind up making more friends every

[00:08:33] year we go. So it's a great event if y'all can attend.

[00:08:37] If you can totally get it.

[00:08:38] It is it's a hall for some people, depending on where you at, where you're at.

[00:08:42] But like I know that our contingent from Michigan, they

[00:08:46] I mean, they've got 12, 13 hours to drive down from Michigan.

[00:08:49] It takes us 10, 11 hours to get up there from Louisiana.

[00:08:53] So if that's an indication of our level of commitment and what that event

[00:08:57] is, I don't know how else to tell you it's it's worth it to me to drive

[00:09:01] 10 and a half hours straight by myself in a truck because I did it for years

[00:09:05] before you and Piper started coming with me.

[00:09:06] Yeah.

[00:09:08] And this year, I'm going to make you work.

[00:09:12] I'm ready to I'm ready to work the booth and I

[00:09:18] I have batted around an idea to host a class.

[00:09:22] I haven't quite committed to that.

[00:09:25] But, you know, one day I think I'm going to get made fun of though.

[00:09:29] For what?

[00:09:31] For doing an alternative protein class.

[00:09:34] Oh, eat the bugs, eat the bugs.

[00:09:36] So that requires context.

[00:09:38] Gillian used to work at the Insectarium in New Orleans.

[00:09:42] I was an entomologist for a long time.

[00:09:44] Yes. So yes, she was she was eating.

[00:09:47] She was telling people to eat the bugs before the New World War.

[00:09:50] Bill Gates did.

[00:09:51] Yeah.

[00:09:52] Before the WHO and the NWO and all of them started.

[00:09:55] So. But anyway.

[00:09:56] So the topic today is road trips, which everybody does.

[00:09:59] I'm assuming everybody goes on a vacation sooner or later.

[00:10:03] Sooner or later, your your spouses and kids win the argument.

[00:10:05] And you all have, you know, sideline

[00:10:08] other things in the name of spending money on a road trip.

[00:10:11] It just happens.

[00:10:13] But that kind of introduces a whole layer of different concerns for a person who's

[00:10:19] like, in my mind, set of preparedness because, like,

[00:10:22] you know, pre prepper Phil would have just said, make sure I've got enough

[00:10:27] socks and underwear and, you know, like my overnight bag.

[00:10:30] So I've got like some basic medications and stuff like that in there.

[00:10:33] But now I look at I look at like the whole process of a road trip through

[00:10:41] the lens of preparedness, which is how do I mitigate certain risks that come up

[00:10:47] when you're away from home?

[00:10:48] And some of those are risks that could happen here to our house while we're gone.

[00:10:52] Some of those are risk to us while we're over the road.

[00:10:55] And like I was telling you right before we start recording,

[00:10:58] like the thing of it is from my perspective is that if we have a risk

[00:11:01] here at home, it's kind of mitigated by the fact that we are in the mindset we are.

[00:11:06] We have we have the sixth most supply of food.

[00:11:09] We have the water.

[00:11:10] We have the things we have all the things here we need to like

[00:11:13] kind of go low tech if we have to like we did after Hurricane Ida.

[00:11:17] You know, as bad of a situation as that was and we took it on the chin.

[00:11:21] We had the things we needed to not be in immediate danger.

[00:11:24] But when you're away from home, that calculus changes substantially.

[00:11:28] Yeah. So again, for the for the prepper minded person,

[00:11:31] it introduces new worries.

[00:11:34] Yeah. I think

[00:11:38] before before we started this whole lifestyle,

[00:11:42] yeah, I was the same way I was a do I have enough underwear?

[00:11:45] Do I have enough socks?

[00:11:46] And what happens if I don't know?

[00:11:49] I always would always said to myself like, what happens if, you know,

[00:11:52] I fall in the lake or something and I need a change of clothes?

[00:11:55] So I would always pack more, but I never considered what to do in the car.

[00:11:59] And except for

[00:12:03] well, I can't even say like check your tires and everything else.

[00:12:06] Really, the only thing that I did prepared wise

[00:12:09] well now, but I'm talking about before, like I'm thinking like when I would

[00:12:13] do these road trips in college or whatever, I wouldn't check tires.

[00:12:16] I wouldn't check oil.

[00:12:17] I wouldn't do any of those things.

[00:12:21] I would say a prayer when we sat in the car and we were on our way.

[00:12:26] You know, I have no I have no bug out bag in the back seat or in the thing.

[00:12:31] I didn't have anything for I think I may have had a flat tire kit.

[00:12:37] You know, where you spray the stuff in there may have had that was your spare

[00:12:40] tire even air it up.

[00:12:41] I don't know. Probably not.

[00:12:45] Men, please please teach your daughters these things.

[00:12:49] I know, right?

[00:12:52] And not to say anything negative about my dad, but no, I did not learn that stuff.

[00:12:58] That was not something I don't know why I didn't know that stuff.

[00:13:02] But

[00:13:04] party liquors, candy and a cell phone.

[00:13:07] That sounds like a college road trip.

[00:13:10] Yeah, that's pretty much that's pretty much it.

[00:13:14] Doritos.

[00:13:17] But yeah, so but now

[00:13:19] I go through we have a whole checklist.

[00:13:22] You have yours, I have mine.

[00:13:23] You check tires, oil, you do you do all those things.

[00:13:27] But I know how to do those things.

[00:13:30] I unintentionally have a bag of clothes in the back seat right now, which are in

[00:13:35] the back hatch or the the Jeep that is supposed to go to Goodwill.

[00:13:40] But if I'm like debating on if I just keep that back there because those are all

[00:13:47] designed that stuff fit.

[00:13:48] Well, they're they're big.

[00:13:50] Like I'm getting rid of them because I don't I can't wear them anymore because

[00:13:53] they're too big, but I go back and forth with we'll just keep it because it's

[00:13:58] clothes, it's in case I mean everything's in there.

[00:14:02] There's all kinds of things in there.

[00:14:04] So

[00:14:05] my laziness has turned into a prep.

[00:14:09] That's that's one way to try to sell it.

[00:14:11] But let's get there, right?

[00:14:13] But let's start at pre travel.

[00:14:15] And this is separate from what to pack because that's a whole that

[00:14:18] will probably be 20 minutes of this conversation by itself.

[00:14:21] But like pre travel and you've already talked about a lot of those things.

[00:14:25] Like I go I approach this bear in mind, you know, did a little bit time in the

[00:14:31] military and you don't you don't pull a vehicle out of the motor pool

[00:14:35] before you check the tires, check the oil, check your fluids,

[00:14:38] made sure everything in that vehicle is not going to break down unexpectedly if

[00:14:42] you can help it.

[00:14:43] So those things are just kind of like built into me and credit my dad.

[00:14:47] He beat a lot of this into me too about

[00:14:49] like, you know, if if your car is not ready to drive 300 miles right now,

[00:14:55] it's not ready to make a road trip.

[00:14:57] So for those people that are like, well, the tires are a little ball,

[00:14:59] but I think they'll make it.

[00:15:00] It's like, no, those those tires are not going to make it.

[00:15:02] You need to go get your tires dealt with or

[00:15:05] the brakes are just making a little bit of noise.

[00:15:07] I'll be all right. No, go get your brakes changed.

[00:15:09] Like these these and this was a discussion you and I were having.

[00:15:12] That's probably going to be my Saturday is doing the brakes on your Jeep because

[00:15:15] we're taking that to we're taking that to Tennessee and we're taking that to

[00:15:20] Florida over the summer.

[00:15:21] So I need to know that your Jeep is ready to make those trips.

[00:15:26] And then before we go to Prepper Camp,

[00:15:29] I got to do this.

[00:15:30] I got to do front brakes and probably wheel bearings on my truck.

[00:15:33] It's all these mechanical things have to be dealt with.

[00:15:36] And for me, that is part of my pre-travel checks.

[00:15:39] A lot of times this doesn't even start the day before the trip.

[00:15:43] Some of these things, some of the things things start the weekend before the trip

[00:15:48] because if I find if I'm digging around

[00:15:51] under the hood and I find a problem, I got to have time to go to the auto parts store,

[00:15:54] get the parts, get it taken care of.

[00:15:55] I got to have time to go put it into a shop.

[00:15:58] Like these are checks that these are checks that start early.

[00:16:01] And some of this I kind of cheat by the fact that I do

[00:16:04] the majority of our maintenance myself.

[00:16:07] So every time I do an old change, I'm under the hood.

[00:16:09] If there's something leaking or misbehaving, I'm probably going to find it.

[00:16:13] So that's that's one aspect to this is pre-travel checks on the vehicle.

[00:16:19] Your Jeep at my insistence has like a minimum amount of food and water in it.

[00:16:23] In case we get stuck someplace for eight to 12 hours.

[00:16:26] It has other things in it at my insistence.

[00:16:29] So for a long time, I didn't have a blowout kit in my car.

[00:16:33] And I told you, I wanted to blow out kit in my car.

[00:16:36] And I fixed that problem within what a week.

[00:16:38] I think you I had a spare.

[00:16:41] I think you were so excited that day.

[00:16:43] I was like, Phil, I'm just realizing I don't have a blowout kit in my car.

[00:16:47] And I would really like to have one.

[00:16:49] And I think you like jumped up that that second and like blow out kit.

[00:16:53] Yeah, I'll go get it.

[00:16:54] And then in five minutes, how to blow out kit in my car.

[00:16:57] Yeah, this is where having a proper

[00:16:58] husband comes in handy because like I literally had I had all the stuff

[00:17:03] in a box in the office to make a blowout kit just right there.

[00:17:06] But why didn't you just put one together for me, husband?

[00:17:09] Because a certain amount of so a certain

[00:17:12] amount of like you and preparedness separate from this topic has always been.

[00:17:16] I feel like I have to kind of present the information,

[00:17:19] but then I have to wait for you to think it's your idea.

[00:17:21] Wait, what?

[00:17:24] Well, OK, sometime because I find that with bringing you along in

[00:17:30] the preparedness lifestyle, there were things in the earlier days you didn't

[00:17:34] really buy into it first.

[00:17:35] Right. And there are still things that you haven't bought into.

[00:17:38] Name one. Conceal carry.

[00:17:41] Damn it. Yes.

[00:17:43] And here's the but here's the thing.

[00:17:44] I've always told you if you're not comfortable doing it, I'm not going to push.

[00:17:49] Well, I feel like with concealed carry, I'm not comfortable with it.

[00:17:53] So I'm more dangerous with it.

[00:17:55] I think that could be ameliorated with training personally.

[00:18:00] I agree. But again, you're not comfortable.

[00:18:03] That's fine. Not going to push that.

[00:18:04] But my point of view is that most of these things require some degree of training

[00:18:10] to be able to use them like it would tickle me pink if I could sit.

[00:18:15] If I could get you and Piper to sit down and commit to like a basic like

[00:18:19] field trauma class that I can teach you all myself because I know how to do

[00:18:22] all this stuff just to refresh all his memory on how to use him.

[00:18:26] This stuff like how to use a cat turn.

[00:18:28] How do you use an Israeli bandage?

[00:18:31] Then let's do it.

[00:18:33] OK, all of my witnesses, she agreed to it.

[00:18:35] But I am not I am not opposed.

[00:18:38] I'm sorry, we're going off on a tangent and now you're about to get.

[00:18:43] I am not opposed to a lot of the things anymore.

[00:18:49] And all you have to do is just say, hey, babe.

[00:18:52] Let's do this.

[00:18:53] And I'm going to be like, cool, or let's wait just a day or so or maybe this weekend

[00:18:58] or don't act like that.

[00:19:00] You're being you're not being fair.

[00:19:03] Everyone tried to get you to commit to doing drive hard training with me.

[00:19:06] And I got the eye roll and the I don't really want to do this.

[00:19:12] I'm leaving. You can call Andrew.

[00:19:14] He's not available anyway.

[00:19:17] But anyway, my point is that, you know, like

[00:19:21] there are certain things I just don't feel like you develop the interest in.

[00:19:26] And if it's not something that like I am prepared to like go to war over,

[00:19:31] then I'm just not going to go to war over it.

[00:19:33] The whole here's food and water you're going to keep in your Jeep.

[00:19:36] That's non-negotiable.

[00:19:37] But you didn't you didn't fight with me on that either.

[00:19:40] That would be really stupid to fight over.

[00:19:42] But my point is that there are certain there are certain things within

[00:19:45] because bear in mind preparedness is a big tent.

[00:19:47] There's a lot of room underneath it.

[00:19:49] And within the within the lifestyle preparedness,

[00:19:52] not everybody sees things the same way.

[00:19:55] So I'm trying.

[00:19:56] I'm trying to meet you where you're at.

[00:19:58] I get that which is why the moment you said, hey,

[00:20:00] you've blow out kid in your truck.

[00:20:02] Why don't I have one of my Jeep?

[00:20:03] I was like, I don't know what was it like 10 minutes I had that problem fix

[00:20:08] because I had a box full of so for context,

[00:20:11] I was in the process of building another I pack

[00:20:15] and at that time and I bought extras of everything

[00:20:18] because I was swapping out a lot of I'm swapping out like the quick clod

[00:20:21] from a lot of old kits and stuff kind of doing maintenance on the kit.

[00:20:25] Some of this stuff has about a five year shelf life.

[00:20:27] You got to replace it every now and then

[00:20:28] and I was in the middle of doing that.

[00:20:30] So when you said, hey, I need, I was like,

[00:20:33] I bought like three extras of everything.

[00:20:35] It was not difficult to put together a kit on the spot.

[00:20:39] But if I hadn't had all the stuff, I'd put it on order that day.

[00:20:42] Yeah, but that was that was an easy thing to fix.

[00:20:46] I mean, yeah, things like checking your tires and your oil.

[00:20:49] Those go go into pre-travel checks for the house.

[00:20:53] Well, wait a second.

[00:20:54] I think there's so much to have in your car

[00:20:56] that you need before we move into the house.

[00:21:00] Like there's still something that I want for my car that I don't have yet.

[00:21:03] Although I know that I can use the

[00:21:06] headrests, the posts on the headrest, but glass breaker.

[00:21:09] Yeah, I would like a glass breaker and

[00:21:12] Jazz, is it her name?

[00:21:14] Yes, I can remember her name over at Mother Prepper.

[00:21:18] She had some really good content that came out after the Baltimore

[00:21:22] bridge was knocked over.

[00:21:26] But so go check that out too.

[00:21:29] But one of the simple things that I don't have in my car and I and I live

[00:21:33] in a place where we have the longest bridge over water.

[00:21:36] And you know, I'm always I'm always having intrusive thoughts of, well,

[00:21:40] what happens if my car goes here or what happens if I go there?

[00:21:43] I mean, it's not unheard of that Gillian has been in a ditch before.

[00:21:47] You know, so having the stuff there that if I need to take care of myself or

[00:21:52] someone else or get out of my car in the water,

[00:21:55] I want to make sure we have all those things there.

[00:21:59] I can say honestly, my car is not prepped the way it should be.

[00:22:04] We could start fixing those problems.

[00:22:09] Today, today, today.

[00:22:11] OK, anyway.

[00:22:12] Anyway, so now we can move into the car.

[00:22:14] I mean, the house.

[00:22:15] Well, but the other thing and I can't I think I have a set in your Jeep.

[00:22:20] If not, I have a spare set in the garage.

[00:22:23] Emergency beacons, the little LED sticks.

[00:22:26] I yes, I think I have a set, but I need I need to check.

[00:22:31] Yeah, I'm they're in that little black plastic case.

[00:22:34] But I mean, it's just it's a it's a modern battery powered version of a road

[00:22:38] flare, you know, they have a magnet on the bottom of them.

[00:22:41] That way that you can just stick them on the side of your vehicle or on the back.

[00:22:44] They got a little tripod base if you need to put them on the ground.

[00:22:46] But like some kind of emergency signaling device is one of those things that,

[00:22:51] like I am a huge proponent of I am actually not a huge proponent of

[00:22:55] like tire, slime or fix a flat and all that nonsense.

[00:22:59] What I carry in my truck is actually like

[00:23:03] for giving for not knowing the brand off the top of my head, ARB.

[00:23:06] But it's an ARB like a plug, a legitimate plug kit,

[00:23:09] the kind of thing you use to plug like tractor tires or big off road tires.

[00:23:13] Because if I get a big old nail or something,

[00:23:16] I can whip that as to be on the side of the road, put a plug into it.

[00:23:19] I've got a 12 volt

[00:23:22] tire inflator that stays in my truck.

[00:23:23] And that's another thing I need to get for you, your own tire inflator,

[00:23:27] your own jump box.

[00:23:28] And again, the thing of it is that I keep all that stuff in my truck

[00:23:33] because most of the time when we go out someplace really remote,

[00:23:36] we're going in the truck where the ability to self recover is more of a problem

[00:23:40] than if you're in town and you can call AAA.

[00:23:42] I get that.

[00:23:43] But you know that you notice that every time we're taking the Jeep someplace,

[00:23:47] I've got that Nike drawstring bread bag that I throw in the back of the Jeep.

[00:23:51] And it's because I clear everything out of my truck.

[00:23:53] I take my iFAC, which is basically yours with a couple extra things in it.

[00:23:58] I take my jump box.

[00:24:01] So if we get a dead battery, we can jump the Jeep right off of that.

[00:24:05] I take my tire inflator.

[00:24:07] I take my spare tools.

[00:24:08] Most of the things I would use for

[00:24:10] emergency roadside stuff, it all fits into a drawstring bag and I just chuck into

[00:24:14] the back of the Jeep.

[00:24:15] So those things, those things transfer

[00:24:19] raising Keynes's prepper food, Kyle, not, not exactly.

[00:24:24] But raising Keynes was I have to get home from school and I don't feel like

[00:24:29] cooking because I'm too tired.

[00:24:30] And then Piper came in and sweet talk to her daddy and to go into Keynes

[00:24:34] today, so not a sponsor of the show, but could be.

[00:24:37] He's one of the new billionaires in Louisiana.

[00:24:41] Not me, the guy who started raising Keynes.

[00:24:43] I started a podcast.

[00:24:45] I just started to start making fried chicken.

[00:24:48] Anyway, so like, I guess that kind of puts a pin in what to have in the vehicle.

[00:24:54] Like you want to have all the things you need to make sure that when you

[00:24:58] leave your driveway, you can get where you're going.

[00:25:01] A minimum amount of extra food and water.

[00:25:04] I'm going to tell you right now, like I'm notorious for I like to drive in flip

[00:25:07] flops and that's just because it's comfortable, but I'm not going anywhere

[00:25:12] too far from home without having a pair of clothes toad shoes and a pair of socks

[00:25:16] in the vehicle.

[00:25:17] And obviously if you're dry, if I'm now, if I'm driving, especially like

[00:25:20] when we go to prepper camp, a lot of times I've got my boots with a pair

[00:25:24] of boot socks in them and they're like by the back door or something

[00:25:28] where they're quick and easy to get a hold of.

[00:25:30] That way, if we get out to prepper camp and it's muddy or it's raining or it's

[00:25:34] disgusting, I just dump the flip flops off in the truck, put the boots on

[00:25:38] and then get out and go.

[00:25:39] But poncho, cold weather gear, if you need it,

[00:25:44] every vehicle should have a poncho in it.

[00:25:47] Like, I guess you can make an argument about having an umbrella.

[00:25:50] But for me, I just want to have my hands free.

[00:25:52] So I keep a poncho in the back of the back of the truck behind the seat.

[00:25:56] Just quick as easy as anything in the world to throw on and keep yourself dry.

[00:26:01] But anyway, so yeah, for the house.

[00:26:09] I mean, there are those people that get really crazy about it, like they'll turn

[00:26:13] off their gas in case they have a gas leak and all kinds of stuff that I don't

[00:26:16] think is a huge problem because I feel like if you had a gas leak,

[00:26:19] take care of that problem.

[00:26:22] We leave a couple of lights on in the house

[00:26:25] and that's not because you're trying to like trick, trick potential thieves

[00:26:29] and think it's somebody's home because

[00:26:31] an amateur is going to break in regardless because they're idiots.

[00:26:35] And a professional is going to case the house for three or four days anyway.

[00:26:38] And when they see no cars coming in or out, they're going to know nobody's home.

[00:26:42] So I look at leaving the lights on strictly under the guise of when we come home,

[00:26:47] if it's if it's after dark, I want that porch light on so I can see as I'm

[00:26:52] approaching the door, I want lights on in the house so I can not come into a

[00:26:55] dark house and I can just assess my surroundings.

[00:27:00] Make sure the house is locked up.

[00:27:02] We like to let a neighbor, a trusted neighbor know like, hey, we're going to be gone.

[00:27:05] If you see any lights on or wild parties or cars in the front yard, call the police.

[00:27:11] But you know, other than that, like the only thing I'm really particular about

[00:27:14] is I make sure that

[00:27:18] there's one firearm that stays out all the time and that's because it's

[00:27:21] in the office, it's in the backdrop for a matter of fact, when we're not

[00:27:24] shooting in here, but the bolt's been removed from it.

[00:27:27] So I am perfectly comfortable leaving it out with pipe around because you can't

[00:27:31] get the day I can shoot no matter what.

[00:27:34] But every firearm in this house, except for the ones we're bringing with us,

[00:27:37] they all get locked up, hidden, squirreled away and they're diversified.

[00:27:41] They're not on one place because I don't just in case somebody breaks in.

[00:27:47] I want to reduce the likelihood that they will steal a number of firearms

[00:27:52] that all have loaded magazines and have ammunition right next to them.

[00:27:59] Other than that, I mean, what?

[00:28:01] Take the trash out so it doesn't stink.

[00:28:04] I don't feel like we do a lot to the house to prep for a trip.

[00:28:09] I don't feel like we do either.

[00:28:10] I clean the house before we leave because I don't want to come home

[00:28:13] to a dirty house, but we don't.

[00:28:15] I mean, our house isn't dirty at all.

[00:28:17] It is lived in.

[00:28:19] No, I don't feel like we do much else with

[00:28:24] with the prep.

[00:28:25] I mean, our animals, you take care of your animals.

[00:28:27] But I mean, some of this stuff is so just common sense before you walk out

[00:28:30] of the house that you just do it for the trip as well.

[00:28:35] I think the car is probably more important

[00:28:39] and has more layers to it than prepping your house before you leave.

[00:28:46] Have someone get mail in packages?

[00:28:48] Yeah, I mean, if you're going to be gone for an extended period of time,

[00:28:51] you certainly don't want that to be building up because then that's another

[00:28:55] sign of you're away from home.

[00:28:58] And then I have my father-in-law's voice in my head

[00:29:02] every time I go on a trip of not posting anything to social media while you're

[00:29:07] gone, because then you really are giving away that you are not at the house.

[00:29:13] Sometimes I do and sometimes I don't.

[00:29:18] So what to pack other than like underwear and socks and clothes?

[00:29:23] Other than other.

[00:29:24] OK, I'm talking about the things to pack other than the things that normal

[00:29:29] and air quotes people think to pack.

[00:29:33] Like, what do you bring on a trip that is not what our neighbors would bring

[00:29:38] on a trip, for example, as a prepper? Yes.

[00:29:43] Is this where I step in?

[00:29:45] Yeah, I'm trying to think, what did I bring on this last trip?

[00:29:48] I mean,

[00:29:52] so I always make sure I have extra medication and a first aid kit in my backpack

[00:29:59] wherever I go, whether it's hiking at the state park or going to Costa Rica or

[00:30:05] define first aid kit.

[00:30:06] That means different things, different people.

[00:30:08] OK, mine is just a basic first aid kit.

[00:30:10] It's been a drill in case you need something for, you know, been a drill.

[00:30:14] It's Band-Aids, Gauze and Ibuprofen, Toll & All.

[00:30:19] It's like simple basic stuff.

[00:30:21] It's what I refer to as an ouchy kit.

[00:30:25] Yeah, it's really an ouchy kit.

[00:30:26] Well, but here's the thing.

[00:30:28] Somebody got a splinter, so I have tweezers.

[00:30:30] It's not stuff that's going to kill you,

[00:30:32] but it is stuff that you need to deal with or it's going to make the trip

[00:30:35] suck. And almost every time we go hiking, I pull it out for something,

[00:30:39] whether it's a Band-Aid or some Ibuprofen or whatever.

[00:30:42] Oh, and then the little thing I got for Christmas from our

[00:30:49] from my secret Santa, for matter of fact, secret Santa was the...

[00:30:54] You're going to have to help me with the name of it.

[00:30:56] It's the the

[00:30:59] the girls P thing.

[00:31:01] Oh, the Shiwi.

[00:31:02] Shiwi. There are other names for it.

[00:31:04] It will always be a Shiwi to me because...

[00:31:07] It's the girls P-tunnel funnel, not tunnel funnel.

[00:31:10] That's what that's what we called them in the army with Shiwis.

[00:31:13] They issued female crew chiefs because there weren't a lot of toilets when you

[00:31:16] were at a fob in the middle of nowhere.

[00:31:18] So I'm definitely I need to get two of those for the car.

[00:31:21] And then I have one for my hiking bag that I keep in there.

[00:31:26] But I try to make sure that those are always in there because mom bladders on a

[00:31:31] hike, it doesn't matter.

[00:31:32] And daughter bladders too, although y'all prior can share Shiwi.

[00:31:37] That's why I said two.

[00:31:38] Well, she needs one for her hiking bag too.

[00:31:40] But I'm just thinking like for mine, what to pack in there and what I keep in there.

[00:31:44] But yeah, so the Alchi kit, I wouldn't say like a full on trauma kit.

[00:31:50] But it's not a trauma kit.

[00:31:52] But you know, I put together something similar, but larger, just better stocked

[00:31:56] that stays in my truck.

[00:31:57] And it's got a lot of the same things.

[00:31:59] I've proven tall and all, bed and drill, band aids, ace bandages case,

[00:32:02] my twist and angle.

[00:32:03] And that's just stuff that lives in the truck.

[00:32:05] But I'll be dad gumdiff within the first two weeks I had that kit put together in

[00:32:09] the truck, we did.

[00:32:10] We went someplace and Piper had a headache.

[00:32:13] The most minor thing you can think of.

[00:32:16] But dad had, I've been proven tall and all in the truck.

[00:32:21] Wasn't even a thin and I keep bottles of water in the truck.

[00:32:23] It was nothing right there in the park.

[00:32:26] A lot of a restaurant to pop that kit open, grab out what I needed for my

[00:32:30] kid, pop a bottle of water and get her taken care of.

[00:32:33] It's just one of those things where it's like, yeah,

[00:32:34] it's such a minor problem.

[00:32:36] But the point is to deal with minor problems, not just suffer through them.

[00:32:40] Right.

[00:32:42] We went

[00:32:44] we were in Lafayette.

[00:32:46] We went to go visit my sister and there was

[00:32:50] a truck fire on the interstate.

[00:32:51] And remember, we were at a dead stop.

[00:32:54] It happened not a half mile, not even a quarter mile in front of us.

[00:32:58] And so we were at a dead stop on the interstate for almost two and a half

[00:33:01] hours. And of course, little bladder started to take effect.

[00:33:06] And I wish at that point I had had that

[00:33:09] sheewee, but definitely going to get one because Piper, we were in the middle of

[00:33:15] the swamp, so there wasn't really any way for her to go to the bathroom.

[00:33:19] But she had to go.

[00:33:21] I don't remember how we went.

[00:33:22] Oh, she peed in your coffee cup.

[00:33:24] Oh, yeah.

[00:33:26] Yes, that was the big blue one that you're always drinking out of.

[00:33:30] Such a good dad.

[00:33:31] I washed it so thoroughly after that.

[00:33:33] Yeah, but I think it would have been a lot easier had I been prepared with the sheewee.

[00:33:39] Maybe, I don't know anyway.

[00:33:41] But yeah, I mean, you know, you make things happen.

[00:33:45] What else would you pack?

[00:33:47] Well, if we're depending on, I mean, obviously firearm.

[00:33:51] I carry a firearm just go across the street.

[00:33:55] I mean, it's just the way I'm wired.

[00:33:57] Your sister asked me the other day,

[00:33:59] is Phil always wear his gun when he's in the house?

[00:34:02] And I was like, yeah, why?

[00:34:04] And she goes, oh, he was just showing me something.

[00:34:08] I don't remember what it was.

[00:34:09] And he lifted up his shirt and I saw the butt of his gun.

[00:34:13] But y'all were at the house and I was like, yeah, everywhere we go, even at home.

[00:34:19] Phil is armed.

[00:34:21] Is that weird?

[00:34:22] I don't know if that's weird.

[00:34:24] I mean, I don't know that's weird, but that's the way it's going to be.

[00:34:26] Like there is no such thing as a gun free zone if I'm present.

[00:34:31] But I thought that.

[00:34:32] But how far from home we go dictates kind of what gets

[00:34:35] broad in that vein, you know what I'm saying?

[00:34:37] Like or what's happening?

[00:34:39] Yes, sometimes sometimes what's happening.

[00:34:42] But I don't lean too heavily into that line of thought just because my point.

[00:34:46] I go back to there's a fire, a self-defense instructor named Masada.

[00:34:49] You've probably never heard of him.

[00:34:51] He's very well known in my circles.

[00:34:53] But I can't remember if it was him or somebody else equally prolific.

[00:34:58] But one of them made one of them kind of in tone,

[00:35:01] don't go stupid places with stupid people and do stupid things.

[00:35:05] And I I tend to well, I tend to look at things in that vein of

[00:35:10] if there's a place that is so dangerous, I feel like I need a plate carrier and a

[00:35:15] rifle and armor on my truck to go there.

[00:35:18] I don't need to go there.

[00:35:19] I don't need to go there.

[00:35:21] Like we can eliminate all these extra steps and just say, we don't need to go there.

[00:35:25] It's that place is a level of threat.

[00:35:28] We're not there's no point in dulling it.

[00:35:31] But at the same time, if I'm not going to go there means you don't go do

[00:35:35] something you want to do, then you have to ask yourself how reasonable is this

[00:35:38] fear that I'm having?

[00:35:40] So there's give and take there.

[00:35:42] I was thinking more along the lines of when Hurricane Ida happened and we

[00:35:46] had to go to my parents and you packed the body armor and three guns

[00:35:51] OK, now that and that is kind of like special situations.

[00:35:56] But I also have to point out that if it weren't

[00:35:57] off for the fact that we had to go check on your parents, we wouldn't left the house.

[00:36:02] So because the place we were going because of what was going on around us,

[00:36:07] there was a heightened threat.

[00:36:09] And because the place we were going, we really didn't have a choice.

[00:36:12] We had to go then I'm going to escalate the preps to match that environment.

[00:36:17] So that's good. That's fair point.

[00:36:19] And in that case, yeah, I mean, like I would never like to drive 45 minutes away

[00:36:25] from home, I might not even pack a spare magazine.

[00:36:27] I might just bring my one mag and my gun and be perfectly OK with that.

[00:36:30] Because you know, if you can't solve a problem with 14 rounds,

[00:36:33] millimeter, you're doing it wrong.

[00:36:35] But in that situation, yeah, I had a play

[00:36:38] carrier and three spare mags and an AR 15 like down on the floorboards of the

[00:36:43] truck and chainsaw and fuel in the back because we were going to be cutting

[00:36:46] trees out there and I had a five gallon jug of water and I think five or six

[00:36:51] MREs in the back of the truck like I I had what we needed if we had to spend

[00:36:56] the night into the truck out there.

[00:36:57] Because again, like, you know, post-post hurricane Ida,

[00:37:02] there's trees down everywhere, the powers out everywhere.

[00:37:05] Police response time will be measured in hours,

[00:37:08] even for an emergency response, if you can get a phone call out

[00:37:11] because cell towers were down everywhere.

[00:37:13] So it was one of the situations where like I approach this from the perspective

[00:37:17] of almost like a military operation of I'm going someplace,

[00:37:22] I'm going into an environment I don't know in a situation I don't know

[00:37:26] with no support and no safety net.

[00:37:29] So I have to do everything I can to mitigate those risks.

[00:37:33] Under normal circumstances, if we're driving within a couple of hours,

[00:37:38] I might pack a spare magazine when we go on vacations.

[00:37:42] I usually pack my scorpion, my CZ Scorpion.

[00:37:45] And with that, I've got four or five extra magazines and,

[00:37:49] you know, like I'll pack the the bailout bag.

[00:37:52] I call it the man purse is what Stuart Keith calls it, that old jerk.

[00:37:58] But, you know, the the that shoulder bag has four spare magazines in it.

[00:38:04] It's got two spare handgun magazines in it.

[00:38:06] It's got the whole contents of a blowout kit in it.

[00:38:09] It is that and a bag to hide the scorpion.

[00:38:12] And my, you know, my normal concealed carry handgun is all the firepower

[00:38:16] and prepper equipment I feel like I need to have to go four or five, six hours away.

[00:38:23] And maybe the only upgrade from that would be like if I'm going to prepper

[00:38:26] camp, sometimes I'll take the scorpions, sometimes I'll take

[00:38:31] I'll take one of my ARs and a couple of mags and maybe a play carrier

[00:38:35] maybe a chest rig, but like, you know, how far away from home I'm going

[00:38:40] kind of dictates that end of things.

[00:38:43] And it kind of to a degree also dictates the rest of the car preps.

[00:38:47] Like when I go to prepper camp by myself,

[00:38:50] I've usually got like two, two five gallon Jerry cans full of fuel with me.

[00:38:55] Because if I get off the interstate at prepper camp again,

[00:38:59] you know, 600 miles away from home,

[00:39:02] if I get off the interstate in, in North South Carolina and I gas up,

[00:39:06] I've got 20 gallons in my tank, 10 gallons in the bed,

[00:39:10] 30 gallons of fuel will get me to within about 20 miles

[00:39:13] of home before I conk out on the interstate.

[00:39:15] So I have all the fuel I need to drive from Saluda straight here

[00:39:19] and not stop at a gas station.

[00:39:21] Worst case scenario, I have what I need to get home

[00:39:24] and I carry extra water and I carry extra food and you know,

[00:39:27] I'm packed up to be there for four or five days.

[00:39:29] So I've got everything I need to live out of my truck for four or five days.

[00:39:34] But with you and Piper, we're going to have to do a little bit

[00:39:37] of truck tetris and maneuvering this year to get everything into the truck.

[00:39:41] Yeah.

[00:39:42] But the point still remains, I would say that for a normal,

[00:39:46] for a normal vacation where you're going to be like at a hotel

[00:39:49] or at a campground or at a pool or whatever,

[00:39:52] you just need to make sure that if things.

[00:39:58] If things were to suddenly unwind,

[00:40:00] you have the things you need to protect your family.

[00:40:03] You have the things you need to, you know,

[00:40:05] care for your family's immediate needs until the situation stabilizes.

[00:40:09] And nine times out of 10, that is as simple as a farm,

[00:40:12] a few extra magazines and like a few hundred dollars in emergency cash.

[00:40:16] Like if you're at a hotel and something happens,

[00:40:18] you got to stay an extra day or two.

[00:40:19] Do you have enough money to check an account to cover two extra nights

[00:40:22] in the hotel? If the answer is no, that's poor planning.

[00:40:26] It's the reason why every time we go someplace,

[00:40:28] I've got five hundred dollars cash with me minimum if we go on a trip.

[00:40:32] And that's not blow on junk money.

[00:40:35] That is emergency get home no matter what happens money.

[00:40:39] Yeah.

[00:40:39] So it's just it's a lot of little things like that, guys.

[00:40:42] Like none of this to most of you all,

[00:40:44] this price sounds like a big no duh and it should.

[00:40:47] But there's a lot of people that didn't learn these lessons.

[00:40:50] I see Joe.

[00:40:53] Joe Oliver is saying that he and the wife are listening tonight.

[00:40:57] And Kyle has been in the comments.

[00:40:58] We haven't been ignoring you just trying to keep the conversation moving.

[00:41:02] So prepping on the road,

[00:41:06] this is going to sound absolutely hilarious coming from a person who took

[00:41:09] combat convoy training, which is legal.

[00:41:12] It's it is the opposite of defensive driving.

[00:41:16] Like the D.O.D.

[00:41:18] taught me how to use a truck like

[00:41:19] like an armed weapon to run people off the road.

[00:41:22] But like the very first thing I always point out to people when we're talking

[00:41:26] about prepping over the road is just like eyes open, don't be fooling around with

[00:41:31] yourself under your radio, be scanning your mirrors, be watching around you,

[00:41:34] drive super defensively and look way down the road.

[00:41:39] Not of what's happened in like 20 feet in front of your bumper.

[00:41:42] But like look way down the road where

[00:41:44] so you can see the tail all of a sudden everybody's brake lights all

[00:41:47] start lighting up, there's a wreck or something

[00:41:49] or watch this knucklehead that's merging on to the interstate right next to you.

[00:41:54] Who might be a jerk and just try to push you out of your lane.

[00:41:57] You know, like to me, step one is always just drive ultra defensively.

[00:42:02] Just be aware of your surroundings.

[00:42:05] I again have your dad's dad in my head.

[00:42:09] But he's never said this to me.

[00:42:10] It was something that you said to me.

[00:42:12] But of course, you started it off with

[00:42:14] you know, my dad said, yeah.

[00:42:17] And it's always when I make a turn the turn into the subdivision here

[00:42:23] of cutting, cutting it close like turning in front of someone who might be

[00:42:28] only a quarter mile down the road or whatever.

[00:42:30] Always say to myself or hear your father say,

[00:42:33] no, what would happen if your car stalled?

[00:42:38] And again, that advice is not as pertinent today in the land

[00:42:43] of automatic transmissions.

[00:42:45] But when back into the day, when he was driving a manual and I drove manuals

[00:42:50] for quite a few years before this truck, like that was a legitimate concern is that

[00:42:54] you might just bugger up getting the car moving in first gear and you might

[00:42:57] stall in the middle of the intersection.

[00:42:59] And that could be a situation when somebody's buried down on you at 60 miles

[00:43:02] an hour. Yeah.

[00:43:04] So what do you mean by this on the road?

[00:43:06] Because I feel like we've talked about packing the car and everything.

[00:43:12] Hang on a second.

[00:43:13] I got to pop this up.

[00:43:15] Joe saying, watch the side of the road.

[00:43:17] Always have an out for your vehicle.

[00:43:20] This is actually really good.

[00:43:22] When I say on the road, I mean like literally in transit to your destination.

[00:43:26] OK, so we're past the packing.

[00:43:28] We're past the packing.

[00:43:30] We are now at the point of like we have five hours to get where we go

[00:43:33] under 10 hours or whatever.

[00:43:35] We are in trans to our destination.

[00:43:37] And obviously this is a multi day trip.

[00:43:39] There's multiple instances of this.

[00:43:41] Yeah.

[00:43:41] But yeah, I mean, Joe brought up one good thing as it pertains to defensive

[00:43:46] driving, which is like always have an out, which is the reason why I've always told

[00:43:50] people, I'm like, you know, you want to you want to stop far enough back from

[00:43:54] the vehicle in front of you that you can see the bottom of their tires.

[00:43:58] Not not the bumper, but like you want to be able to look down over the edge

[00:44:02] of your hood and be able to see where their tires touch the pavement.

[00:44:05] Because on most vehicles, that just happens to be enough room between you

[00:44:09] and the vehicle in front of you.

[00:44:10] You can whip the wheel hard right and cut around them

[00:44:13] without having to hit them and push them out of the way, which in an emergency

[00:44:17] that can happen, but you don't want to have to shove a four or five thousand

[00:44:21] pound vehicle to get out from behind it.

[00:44:23] Yeah. So that's one thing.

[00:44:25] You don't if there's a three lane road.

[00:44:29] It's kind of a it's kind of a thing where like on a on a on a two lane

[00:44:33] road, you can defer to the right or the left if you have to get out

[00:44:37] of the travel lane on a three lane road.

[00:44:38] I don't like being in the center lane a lot

[00:44:41] just because if you get boxed in on your right and left, you have nowhere to go.

[00:44:44] You're stuck.

[00:44:46] So that but then again, there are instances where like being in the center lane

[00:44:49] means you don't have to deal with all the traffic slowing down and speeding up,

[00:44:52] merging onto the interstate.

[00:44:53] So it's kind of a situational thing.

[00:44:55] The takeaway though is to always have a plan for if this person does

[00:44:59] something they're not supposed to do, how do I escape from it?

[00:45:02] Because you just try not to get into an accident.

[00:45:04] It's not about saving the vehicle.

[00:45:06] It's about saving your family that's with you in the vehicle.

[00:45:09] Like trucks can be replaced.

[00:45:11] Bumpers aren't that expensive.

[00:45:13] Family members, that's a little tricky.

[00:45:16] It's hard to replace good wives.

[00:45:18] Oh, sweet.

[00:45:19] Woke me up for a second.

[00:45:22] I'm struggling and Kyle is saying pay attention to the weather, which

[00:45:28] I mean, that kind of to me, that almost goes back to like pre-travel checks.

[00:45:31] Like if your tires are bald, if your windshield wipers are skidding

[00:45:35] across the, if your windshield is not clean.

[00:45:40] So why did you look at me like that?

[00:45:43] Well, I thought of something and I kind of blue screen for a second.

[00:45:47] But that was intentional.

[00:45:49] Well, but one of the things to bear in mind, though, is like if it's

[00:45:54] love bug season down here in South Louisiana and your

[00:45:58] windshield gets love bug to death after about three days,

[00:46:02] you just got to keep it clean because a dirty windshield is going to reduce

[00:46:05] your visibility if it's raining in your windshield is dirty.

[00:46:08] Then the rain is going to streak back and forth.

[00:46:10] Your windshield wipers aren't going to work worth a damn.

[00:46:12] Yeah, it's just one of those things where like this all goes to

[00:46:15] the best way to mitigate weather is to have a vehicle that is properly

[00:46:18] maintained so that it mitigates the weather for you and don't overdrive

[00:46:23] your headlights, don't overdrive the conditions like this is all

[00:46:26] defensive driving 101.

[00:46:28] Um,

[00:46:30] that username

[00:46:33] Brig Jail, I think I know who that is actually.

[00:46:36] LJ.

[00:46:37] But I don't want to say it on the on the show.

[00:46:41] But

[00:46:43] emergency extra cash not on your person.

[00:46:47] So I don't know if you were ever in this

[00:46:49] habit when you were younger, but I know when I was young,

[00:46:52] it wasn't an uncommon thing to like you had a 20 like in your glove box.

[00:46:56] And that was like emergency.

[00:46:58] That was not beer money.

[00:47:00] That was like emergency get home money.

[00:47:01] That because this is back when $20 with Philip, your gas tank and buy you a Coke.

[00:47:05] Now $20 is like, but you know, get you about two miles down the road.

[00:47:10] No, I didn't have that.

[00:47:11] But my mom told me all the time to keep a quarter in my shoes so that if I

[00:47:15] needed to make a phone call home, I could find a pay phone and call home.

[00:47:18] I think we just dated ourselves.

[00:47:20] I know.

[00:47:21] So I did.

[00:47:21] I kept a quarter in my shoe.

[00:47:23] Pay phone and a quarter make a phone call.

[00:47:25] That's

[00:47:27] it was.

[00:47:27] We didn't have cell phones and pay phones were still a thing and

[00:47:31] or know how to call collect.

[00:47:33] But and that was when you memorized everybody's number because you didn't have a

[00:47:38] your the Rolodex was in your head.

[00:47:40] But yeah, I kept a quarter in my shoe or in my sock.

[00:47:43] The only number I've memorized is yours.

[00:47:46] Really?

[00:47:46] Yeah.

[00:47:49] I was one of those weird kids that had like a little pad of paper

[00:47:52] or their by his number on it because I just like something in my brain is really

[00:47:56] good at math and really bad at memorizing.

[00:47:58] Mom and dad's phone number was the same thing because it was a house phone.

[00:48:01] It was a landline.

[00:48:02] Yeah, I wasn't memorized in cell phone numbers.

[00:48:05] So actually, I think I still know my old my old home phone number.

[00:48:10] Anyway, wow.

[00:48:12] Anyway, so when you're away from home ostensibly, this is going to be

[00:48:16] when you're staying at a hotel someplace.

[00:48:18] I mean, I'm not really lumping in like camping trips with this because

[00:48:21] when we go camping, like you're you're going to live like a homeless person anyway.

[00:48:24] So you bring everything with you.

[00:48:26] But like, is there anything preparedness wise that we do or don't do or

[00:48:31] things we do differently when we're staying away from the house at like a

[00:48:36] hotel or something that maybe don't apply to the average person?

[00:48:41] I mean, I have things I have.

[00:48:43] I make sure that I always have hair clips so that I can clip the curtains

[00:48:48] together and I use every lock on the door, no matter what.

[00:48:56] And I test those locks so I'll put the little little flap thing over and open

[00:49:01] the door to make sure it holds or the chain to make sure it holds

[00:49:07] as crazy as it sounds.

[00:49:10] I look for places where cameras can be.

[00:49:15] Do you know the window trick or the mirror trick?

[00:49:17] Yeah. So the mirror trick, I never use the mirror trick if they don't know.

[00:49:23] So if you put your finger on the mirror and there's

[00:49:29] there's a space between your reflection, then it's a real real mirror.

[00:49:34] If you put your finger on the mirror and there's no space between your finger

[00:49:38] and the reflection, then it's most likely a two way mirror or it's one way mirror.

[00:49:45] Or there's a one way.

[00:49:47] Yeah, one way mirror.

[00:49:48] I'm sorry, it's a one way mirror so you can see through it on the other side.

[00:49:52] So there's that trick.

[00:49:54] I don't worry about that because if somebody is going to go through

[00:49:57] that much trouble to see my neck and butt, get out of the shower, enjoy it.

[00:50:00] But you know, ladies might want to consider that.

[00:50:03] But and then the other thing is I never use a hotel safe.

[00:50:08] That is an excellent point because a lot of people do not take into account

[00:50:12] the fact that hotel staff almost exclusively has a way to break into those things.

[00:50:18] And that's assuming they don't just set them all to the exact same combination

[00:50:22] because knowing a lot of a lot of patrons won't change the combination.

[00:50:26] You know, you're supposed to.

[00:50:27] So I make sure that my valuables if I have them are on me at all times.

[00:50:34] The other thing that I'll do like for this last trip that I went on

[00:50:37] to Costa Rica, I did not wear my diamond rings down there.

[00:50:40] I wore some fifteen dollar Amazon purchase in case that fell off.

[00:50:46] So I make sure like it depends on the event or whatever we're doing,

[00:50:50] but I'm not going to bring like my jewelry or good expensive jewelry.

[00:50:54] I'll wear, you know, whatever.

[00:50:56] And yeah, I just I don't I just make sure everything stays on me or it's

[00:51:04] locked up in my own stuff.

[00:51:06] Yeah. And typically, I mean, if I'm going to be away from the hotel

[00:51:10] for any length of time, I'll usually take like that one bag that has

[00:51:14] the fireman everything in it.

[00:51:15] And I'll if so, if the truck's going to be someplace out of my custody

[00:51:22] for extended period of time, then I'm kind of in a weird position where I'll

[00:51:25] usually try to hide at some place in the in the room, you know what I'm

[00:51:29] saying? Because I agree with you about leaving in the hotel safe to me.

[00:51:33] That's that's that's like putting a big old sign on this as here's the

[00:51:36] stuff I don't want stolen.

[00:51:38] Whereas I feel like if you hide at someplace in the hotel,

[00:51:41] the first obstacle has to be overcome.

[00:51:43] Somebody has to find it and that involves them going looking for it.

[00:51:47] And I tend to think that if things are just not left out in the open,

[00:51:51] that that's that is already the greatest the greatest thing you could do.

[00:51:56] Like for those of you who are in the that are in preparedness,

[00:51:59] I would say like have a if you're going to have prepper stuff or firearms

[00:52:03] and it's going to be left out of your custody because sometimes that's

[00:52:05] just unavoidable on a trip, have the most non-descript duffel bag you can find.

[00:52:11] Nothing that's camouflage, nothing that has patches or Velcro on it,

[00:52:15] nothing that looks like something you got of an army surplus store.

[00:52:18] Like I'm telling you, you could get a guitar case and you could have a

[00:52:23] freaking minigun if you wanted.

[00:52:24] Most people wouldn't even think twice about it.

[00:52:26] So like, you know, a little bit of like gray man knowledge,

[00:52:30] a little bit of hiding stuff in plain sight goes a long way in that instance.

[00:52:36] Personally, I do agree with you about checking to make sure all the locks actually work.

[00:52:42] We usually will take the do not disturb sign and we'll smack that on the outside

[00:52:46] of the door as soon as we get there.

[00:52:47] Yeah, because I don't we don't want people in out of our hotel room.

[00:52:51] And if it gets bad enough that they need to be in our room,

[00:52:53] we will intentionally take that off and at least usually will stick around

[00:52:59] around the hotel until they've come and left and then put it right back on.

[00:53:03] Because we just if you minimize the traffic in your hotel room,

[00:53:06] there's less opportunity for something to turn it missing.

[00:53:10] Yeah.

[00:53:10] So those oh on this trip.

[00:53:13] So I have my passport and all that stuff.

[00:53:16] Well, you don't want to carry your passport on you at all times.

[00:53:19] So I made sure that I found a place

[00:53:23] when in my room where I could safely put my passport.

[00:53:28] And I did not keep my passport and my money together.

[00:53:31] I won't say where I hid everything, but

[00:53:35] you know, thinking about that beforehand of OK, this is going to be a good place

[00:53:39] to stash my cash because I'm only going to take

[00:53:42] sixty dollars with me as I go out today.

[00:53:44] But you know, the couple hundred are going to stay back at the room in a

[00:53:48] certain place and I'm certainly not taking my passport with me.

[00:53:51] But I do have my ID, my state issued ID on me for identification so I can get

[00:53:57] in and out of this country and taking a picture of your passport that has

[00:54:03] your ID number on it and then the stamp when you got into country to show.

[00:54:08] Look, I really am here because my passport.

[00:54:12] Here's a good one.

[00:54:13] And I came kind of ashamed.

[00:54:14] I just now thought of it.

[00:54:15] Did you know where the where your nearest consulate office was?

[00:54:20] I did not.

[00:54:21] That would have been.

[00:54:21] But I knew where the police station was.

[00:54:23] Police station would have helped.

[00:54:24] But I would say if you knew where the nearest US either consulate office or US

[00:54:28] embassy was because you were out of the country,

[00:54:30] I would say that would be very useful information for those of you who are going

[00:54:33] to travel internationally because like you said, if you have a picture of your

[00:54:38] passport or you have a state issued ID from the US and you show up at

[00:54:43] the front gate and say, I'm an American, I need help.

[00:54:45] You're in infinitely better position than if you show up hat in hand

[00:54:49] because the first thing they have to do at that point is prove who the hell

[00:54:52] you are.

[00:54:53] If you at least have a picture of your passport,

[00:54:56] they can call home and verify that.

[00:54:59] So, you know, but at least know where the nearest police station is.

[00:55:03] I did know where the police station was.

[00:55:05] Do you know where the nearest hospital was?

[00:55:09] I knew where the clinics were.

[00:55:11] OK.

[00:55:12] I don't know.

[00:55:13] I don't know how Costa Rica works with hospitals.

[00:55:16] I never saw a major hospital, but there were clinics everywhere like Urgent

[00:55:19] Cares as long as it's place you can get emergency

[00:55:21] medical care.

[00:55:23] And again, like this is one of those things that like I usually will

[00:55:27] again, it depends on the situation.

[00:55:29] Like when I go to prepper camp, I'll be honest,

[00:55:30] I have no idea where the nearest hospital is prepper camp.

[00:55:33] Don't don't really care to know either because because of everyone we're

[00:55:37] surrounded by. Well, OK, we're at prepper camp.

[00:55:41] I'm going to tell the story and I doubt Dave Jones is listening.

[00:55:44] Dave Jones, the NBC guy from Prepper Rock has no work.

[00:55:47] So the first year we were at prepper camp,

[00:55:49] Dave cut the F out of himself.

[00:55:52] He had a big old like a Rambo knife he was he was selling.

[00:55:55] I remember this story.

[00:55:56] Yeah, he was selling at his booth at prepper camp and some I want to see it.

[00:56:00] So he whips that thing on out of the sheath and just right through the meat of his

[00:56:05] hand with it and he went to the aid station.

[00:56:09] I think all they have is like band-aids and some gauze and they wrapped his

[00:56:12] hand up said, yeah, you might need to go get some stitches.

[00:56:14] So he's coming back.

[00:56:16] He's holding pressure on it.

[00:56:18] You know, gauze and a Spanish razz hand come back to the booth and we

[00:56:21] happen to see him.

[00:56:22] And it's like what happened?

[00:56:23] He's like, oh, you know, I cut myself this and the other.

[00:56:27] Well, we're standing right there with Tommy,

[00:56:29] who's a critical care flight paramedic by trade.

[00:56:33] Well, Tommy frigate has med bond in his pack and like literally like

[00:56:37] I dine them and glue that glue that shot right there in the vendors area

[00:56:41] of prepper camp. So yeah, like prepper camp is

[00:56:45] the best place to have a life-threatening emergency.

[00:56:48] Right. Because you were surrounded by people that are,

[00:56:51] you know, paramedics, EMTs, firefighters, police, military.

[00:56:57] I will say this in Costa Rica because your sister, Becca, got

[00:57:02] the opportunity she's

[00:57:05] she's a paramedic works for

[00:57:08] one of our local ambulance services, but

[00:57:12] we were crossing the street and it just so happened that one of their

[00:57:16] ambulances pulled up right behind us and the look on your sister's face was

[00:57:20] this Christmas, it was like, oh my God, should I go talk to him?

[00:57:23] I really want to go talk to him.

[00:57:24] I really need to go talk to him.

[00:57:25] I really want to see what's inside that ambulance.

[00:57:27] And so I said, go talk to him.

[00:57:29] And so I push her over that way.

[00:57:30] She goes, she's so excited.

[00:57:32] I mean, she was jumping.

[00:57:33] She was so giddy and I have pictures of her talking to these paramedics.

[00:57:37] But I don't even know if that's what you would call them.

[00:57:39] But I can say that we are better equipped and prepared in our car.

[00:57:48] Then well, if not more than at least equal to minus a stretcher

[00:57:55] to the ambulances in Costa Rica.

[00:57:58] They are just basic life support, basic like

[00:58:05] like boo boo kits, just if it's worse than that, you're going to a hospital.

[00:58:10] Yeah, but there's there was only one ambulance in Haco that had an AED on it.

[00:58:18] Only one in the entire area.

[00:58:24] You can say what you want about our health industry and the cost of health

[00:58:28] insurance and the cost of an ambulance ride.

[00:58:30] But you cannot complain about the sheer volume of equipment and medicine

[00:58:37] that our health system can bring to bear our problem.

[00:58:40] Yeah, I totally believe that I am better equipped in my Jeep than one of those ambulances.

[00:58:46] Although there's they're going to have more of the supplies.

[00:58:49] I have it just for three people or whatever.

[00:58:52] But yeah, I thought it was really interesting, very interesting.

[00:58:58] Sounds like we're definitely more prepared at Prepper Camp with everyone.

[00:59:03] Well, I mean, that's the whole point is to be more prepared than if you weren't.

[00:59:06] I'm talking about in comparison to an ambulance in Costa Rica.

[00:59:11] So I mean, is there anything we haven't talked about?

[00:59:15] Yeah, that you feel like belongs in a conversation around

[00:59:20] going on a road trip, going on vacation when you have crazy prepper

[00:59:24] husband and prep attendants?

[00:59:26] I think most of it is common sense.

[00:59:28] I really do. Oh, I can't sign off on that idea though.

[00:59:31] Well, the basics are should be common sense.

[00:59:34] You use the right qualifier.

[00:59:36] I know, I know, I know.

[00:59:37] That's why I changed what I said.

[00:59:39] I can't think of anything that we didn't discuss or didn't talk about.

[00:59:46] No, I think that when it comes,

[00:59:50] I'm kind of notorious for insisting that preparedness is not like a hobby or a set

[00:59:55] of activities that's a mindset.

[00:59:57] Oh, Gillian has an idea.

[00:59:59] You have you have downloaded maps on your phone so that you don't have to

[01:00:05] use the Internet. So if you get out in a place where there's no cell phone service

[01:00:09] and obviously no Wi-Fi, you at least have maps to get us out of there.

[01:00:14] But I will say that in that vein, if you're going to rely on maps on your phone,

[01:00:19] you now have to carry like one of those rechargeable battery packs.

[01:00:23] You have to carry one of those either in your bag or in your vehicle.

[01:00:27] And that is not.

[01:00:28] Oh, I just want to play Candy Crush or nonsense.

[01:00:30] That is now an emergency piece of equipment to keep your maps up.

[01:00:35] I'm just saying, I know.

[01:00:37] Or an atlas. Make sure you have an atlas in your car.

[01:00:39] Again, some some way of navigating.

[01:00:42] Yes, 100 percent.

[01:00:44] I

[01:00:45] mean, if you want to take one step further, I'd say get a compass.

[01:00:48] But quite frankly, if you can't figure out like bear in mind that most of the

[01:00:51] interstates are laid out north south and east and west, you can look at the sun

[01:00:55] and know what time of day it is and figure out what direction you're going.

[01:00:58] And if you can't figure that out, you need to do some orienting.

[01:01:02] But probably shouldn't be driving.

[01:01:03] Yes. But I I agree with Joe.

[01:01:06] Well, let's let's back up.

[01:01:07] GPS unit is another good one, although if you're going to use a GPS, it's the same

[01:01:12] kind of problem. You got to have a you got to have an alternate way to power it or

[01:01:15] charge it that now becomes a piece of emergency equipment.

[01:01:18] Because if your car, if your radio or not coms radio,

[01:01:21] if your navigation equipment goes down, it's not doing any good.

[01:01:25] But I have to agree with Joe.

[01:01:26] Like a lot of this stuff should be common sense, but everybody has common

[01:01:30] sense and a lot of the a lot of the lessons like you and I grew up with.

[01:01:35] They don't apply anymore.

[01:01:37] I don't want to say they don't apply, but like people aren't being taught this

[01:01:40] stuff, people, people just cross themselves and wing in a prayer and go and

[01:01:45] hope they get where they're going and because I and then Joe's comments

[01:01:50] start carrying extra lady hygiene stuff again.

[01:01:53] I guess I would hope that that would be

[01:01:57] common sense for women.

[01:01:59] But I know it's not.

[01:02:00] I know it's not common sense and common sense is lacking in my gender.

[01:02:05] You are a highly evolved woman.

[01:02:09] There are other women like me out there.

[01:02:11] There are.

[01:02:11] But that is that's tucked away in all the tuck away place.

[01:02:17] No matter where we go, it's like, oh, yeah, I have that.

[01:02:21] And then having that, that's a good

[01:02:24] that could be used as a bandage or something.

[01:02:28] You know, you can use pads for or even a tampon.

[01:02:33] You don't want to think about it like that.

[01:02:35] No, there's a running joke in the prepper community that people used to think

[01:02:38] you should put tampons in your in your IFX to use for gunshots.

[01:02:45] OK, does that sound like a stupid idea?

[01:02:47] No.

[01:02:49] How much blood does a tampon absorb before it's fully saturated?

[01:02:53] Well, it'll it expands to how much how much blood?

[01:02:57] I don't know.

[01:02:58] OK, never.

[01:02:59] I don't know about one

[01:03:02] eighth to a tenth of the amount that a

[01:03:07] like a wound packing will.

[01:03:08] OK, I'm not thinking in case you get shot by a gun.

[01:03:12] I'm thinking like you I don't know you fall on a stick.

[01:03:17] I don't know.

[01:03:18] Yes, I think having something super absorbent you could also use.

[01:03:22] They're made to absorb blood.

[01:03:26] I'm going to make you talk to somebody if you keep to keep going down this whole

[01:03:30] tampons for wound care route.

[01:03:32] I'm not.

[01:03:34] OK, don't you think that having

[01:03:38] don't you think having tampons or pads for their typical use, which is to for

[01:03:43] feminine hygiene could also be doubled up as a oh shit,

[01:03:48] I need something to stop the bleeding or to put over a cut or something.

[01:03:53] It's like, ding, I have something just for bleeding.

[01:03:58] No. OK, fine.

[01:04:00] If you ever cut yourself, Lord forbid, you're not getting one of my pads.

[01:04:03] I don't want one of your pads because I have other things that are much better

[01:04:07] at dealing with, you know, OK, bleeding.

[01:04:10] Oh, Lord have mercy.

[01:04:12] Listen, OK, listen.

[01:04:13] I listen, Linda.

[01:04:16] I will concede that in an emergency situation with no other options,

[01:04:21] a tampon as a form of dressing is better than nothing.

[01:04:26] OK, comma, however, if you have to use the tampon because you ran out of gauze

[01:04:33] and everything to pack a pack of wound with, you've either had a really,

[01:04:38] really bad day or you really, really screwed up.

[01:04:40] I'm not saying only pack tampons and pads for emergency.

[01:04:45] I swear to God, honey, I will I will get one of my frigging

[01:04:49] attack med friends to like come on this show and you will be obligated to come

[01:04:53] and defend this. Oh, well, I'm not saying that.

[01:04:56] I'm not saying, oh, we got everything we need.

[01:04:59] I've got tampons and pads. Oh, Jesus Christ.

[01:05:02] That is I cannot believe we have unpacked this trope on my show.

[01:05:06] Well, the fact that you thought that that was what I said is disheartening.

[01:05:11] Joe said they're good if you cut them in quarters for nosebleeds.

[01:05:15] One that like you're going to have on punch you in your face.

[01:05:20] Now, what he did say is, Phil, you need to carry them for me and Piper.

[01:05:25] But you wear two socks.

[01:05:33] Somebody come get your boy.

[01:05:35] Come get your boy. Come get your boy.

[01:05:38] Can't help it. Not going to try to.

[01:05:41] But anyway, I mean, bearing in mind, like I was saying before,

[01:05:45] I was derailed by the tampons and med kit.

[01:05:49] Preparedness, preparedness is a mindset.

[01:05:53] It's not an activity. It's not a hobby.

[01:05:55] So because preparedness is a mindset, it becomes the lens you look at things

[01:05:58] through. And I tend to think that, yes, most of the things we would talk about

[01:06:04] in the guise of preparedness, largely are common sense things or they used to be

[01:06:09] common sense. But I think that for a lot of the same reasons why I started this show

[01:06:14] eight years ago now,

[01:06:17] you know, it's because I see people doing things that

[01:06:21] to me are common sense and at one time to our generation, they were common

[01:06:25] sense we were younger, but somewhere along the way, people forgot to get the message out.

[01:06:29] So.

[01:06:31] I have one more thing.

[01:06:32] One more thing is the tampons.

[01:06:33] No, it's not.

[01:06:36] One thing that came in

[01:06:39] I needed while I was on this trip to Costa Rica was

[01:06:42] liquid IV and having a backup resource for electrolyte imbalances

[01:06:49] because sometimes you just don't realize how hard you're working or how much sweat

[01:06:53] you're losing and things like that.

[01:06:55] And you can't get to a corner store to get a power aid.

[01:06:57] So having a little packet of powder to put in your water bottle to refresh

[01:07:01] your electrolyte so you don't pass out.

[01:07:04] That will go in every car, a box of it will go in every car and we'll go on

[01:07:09] every trip with us from now on.

[01:07:12] It was a lifesaver in Costa Rica.

[01:07:13] That's perfectly fair.

[01:07:15] Seems reasonable.

[01:07:16] Anyway, I entered, I entered

[01:07:18] interrupted your.

[01:07:20] That's OK.

[01:07:21] I'm just saying these things really should be common sense.

[01:07:25] Well, isn't that why you do this show?

[01:07:26] You and Andrew.

[01:07:27] Yeah, because common sense isn't

[01:07:29] accommodating more apparently.

[01:07:31] But I would say, you know, to the listeners,

[01:07:33] if if we missed anything that you feel like bears pointing out,

[01:07:37] like if you're watching this on YouTube or Facebook, drop a comment.

[01:07:40] If you're listening to this in audio,

[01:07:42] you can always come find us on social media and talk it talk it over with us.

[01:07:46] Or you can go straight to M o f podcast dot com and drop something on the

[01:07:50] contact form like we don't have we me and Andrew are the social media team.

[01:07:56] So when you contact us through one of those routes,

[01:07:58] it comes to us. There's there's nobody else.

[01:08:01] There's me.

[01:08:03] Not on matter of facts, not often, sometimes.

[01:08:08] OK, it goes to gilling into.

[01:08:12] But yeah, anyway, let's not turn this into an Italian goodbye.

[01:08:16] You do that. I'm I'm the Italian.

[01:08:18] I'm not even saying goodbye.

[01:08:19] You're the one doing it.

[01:08:20] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:08:23] Right before we leave.

[01:08:29] Brig J. L. Saying Brig.

[01:08:31] Brig L. J.

[01:08:32] Saying carrying a portable power station, 12 volt USB and 110.

[01:08:38] I mean, yeah, have again, to me, it is always if you have if you have a piece

[01:08:43] of equipment, you have to support the piece of equipment.

[01:08:45] If the piece of equipment is like a CPAP,

[01:08:47] like some of our listeners have to deal with or if you have if you're

[01:08:52] depending on your cell phone for anything for communications or for

[01:08:55] navigation, you got to have a way to keep that lit up.

[01:08:57] Like you just you have to you have to treat all of your support equipment

[01:09:02] as mission essential and then you have to ask yourself,

[01:09:05] what do I need to support the equipment?

[01:09:09] But anyway, we'll go ahead and kick this one out the door.

[01:09:12] Matter of fact, podcast going out with Gillian.

[01:09:15] If you're going on a trip, please plan ahead, check your tires and make sure

[01:09:19] you're going to make it there and back safely and talk to you another week.

[01:09:23] Are you asking me?

[01:09:24] I guess not. Bye.

[01:09:26] Right afternoon.