Patriot Power Hour #304 - Indo-Pak War Starts; Tariff Updates; Ration or Ruin Week #1

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[00:01:14] Introducing your hosts, Ben, the Breaker of Banksters, and Future Dan, the editor of FutureDanger.com Patriot Power Hour, May 6th, 2025. It's episode 304, Ben the Breaker of Banksters. Here with Future Dan, we got some pretty important breaking news we're going to hit straight away.

[00:01:35] Future Dan, Indo-Pak War Starts, Lighting Up Like a Christmas Tree, literally in the last hour. Big developments here. Maybe you want to run us through some of these headlines and we can go through this.

[00:01:48] Yeah, so from bottom to top, we can see in the archive for this indicator that around April 24th, was it, that we had a terror attack in this disputed territory between Pakistan and India.

[00:02:09] Just scrolling up, right after that, as has happened before, India and Pakistan trade gunfire, start building up militaries, exchanging fire for a second day. Indian PM announces five days later that there'd be a green light to respond. Pakistan on May 3rd, three days ago, test fires a nuclear-capable ballistic missile that is absolutely a demonstration of force.

[00:02:36] And then today, India was said to have cut off water this morning and then breaking. Tonight, India attacks Pakistan in three locations, nine targets. It's said tonight, this is escalating right now as we speak, Ben. The militaries are in heavy contact along the LOC, that's the line of control. Think about Korea, there's a DMZ, demilitarized zone.

[00:03:06] They don't have a demilitarized zone between these countries. They have a line of control. Basically, a dug-in front line and it is exchanging fire tonight. The Indian airstrikes on Pakistan are deadly. Pakistan is admitting that. And bottom line is, we fear for war between two nuclear-armed states.

[00:03:30] So, all of this has happened just in the last couple hours, all of the airstrikes and the attacks of May 6th, which is today, of course. We talked about this a couple episodes back, and I covered a couple of these articles last week as well. So, it's been accelerating. We've been reviewing and talking about here on Patriot Power Hour. Going into this archive, looking back, nothing approaches this level of hostility between them.

[00:04:00] That's since 2019. Since 2019, or I don't even, I think we're past that based off what I've seen. My cursory review of what was going on in 2019 seems like we're past that. Any thoughts there? There's reports that there's been aircraft struck on the ground. So, if these air forces who are nearly in combat right now are actually striking each other's airfields, then this is another India-Pakistan war.

[00:04:30] Does it escalate to nuclear is what we have to pay attention to. So, yeah, that is why it's on Future Danger, and that's why on Prepper Broadcasting Network, where Preppers, mostly based in the West, mostly based in the United States, not all, but mostly. Why do we care about this? Well, nuclear-armed countries, first and foremost. Even a conventional war with them would be crazy.

[00:04:59] It's just so expensive with lives and monetarily worldwide, but the nuclear card is the real, real reason to follow. Now, what you might be seeing on screen right now, to our radio listeners, you might want to go check out the archive on Rumble, YouTube, and X. So, we do screen share now. I'm showing from March 2019. Time flies.

[00:05:51] Time flies. Time flies. Time flies. India and Pakistan did have a big war in the 70s, and they have had a lot of other military action against one another. So, I'm not saying this is, you know, the all-out final war between them by any means, but it does look very, very serious and something that's breaking right now, the night of the 6th of May, 2025. Yeah.

[00:06:15] So, what I'm thinking about is how the Indian and Pakistani national command authorities for their nuclear arsenals. Think about what's happening right now between those parts of both of those militaries. You know, we're talking many score of warheads, less than 200 each, but they have enough in a very densely populated part of the world, right? Right?

[00:06:43] So, these warheads stay in bunkers, right? And they have to be assembled and mated with whatever platform delivers them, right? So, you keep them safe and under control in bunkers. Bringing them forward and putting them on delivery systems is what both of those militaries are looking at right now, trying to determine if either of them is doing it.

[00:07:08] And you better believe that every major intelligence agency in the world is also trying to figure that out right now. You did. I'd like to ask you to repeat the last 30 seconds. You're kind of warping it in and out. Hopefully, it was just my end of it, but I'll presume the listeners also had a little bit of rubber banding. Can you repeat that last maybe 30 seconds? Yeah. Yeah.

[00:07:33] So, indicators that both of the militaries, India and Pakistan, as well as all the major intelligence agencies in the West, Russia, China, all the neighboring countries, even Iran, everybody wants to watch very carefully. The warheads coming out of the bunkers and getting put onto platforms that can be delivered.

[00:07:58] And there's this issue that, especially for Pakistan, if you don't use them, you might lose them. If you don't strike first and therefore having them sitting in bunkers and not available, it's a dilemma. It's a nuclear warfighting dilemma.

[00:08:20] Another part of this is India's National Command Authority and its structure resembles most Western nations with these weapons. And the PM through the National Command Authority and the strategic force in India, that's pretty well accepted that that's unified. A unified command that, you know, we'll operate whatever the decision is at the top, it'll execute.

[00:08:49] But what we presume our National Command Authority is for nuclear weapons in Pakistan, not so much that that military has its prerogatives. That military is not always, you know, aligned and subordinate to the civilian authority. Sharif in Pakistan, how much control does he have of his military? What are major Pakistani generals doing and thinking right now?

[00:09:17] That's something that let's just say, you know, there's a lot of powerful spy agencies in the world right now. There's not to say they weren't focused on this. They are always focused on this, but there's a lot of people right now on the planet in serious positions wanting to understand how far is this escalating?

[00:09:42] Well, I certainly hope it's not escalating any further than it has, but we'll be reporting here on Patriot Power Hour. And well, if there's another reason to prep, there you go. I don't even think we had Pakistan, India war breaks out on our predictions for 2025. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't think we did. We had a lot of, you know, a lot of things that we reviewed, but not that. And it seems like this could be escalating quickly. Anything else you want to hit on this topic? Maybe we can hit the news blitz after if you want.

[00:10:12] We can. But I think it's important is like, why is this a future danger indicator? Let me ask you that. I know because I created future danger, but why would this be one of 492 indicators, almost all of which are focused on our country? Well, I think I talked about it last week. So correct me if I'm wrong.

[00:10:41] And it was two weeks ago when you were on the show last with me. But I said, at least from a couple of places I've read and heard, this is a top five. And I classified it as the fifth most likely to turn into thermonuclear war, right? You have, let's just say North Korea and South Korea. Could that be a top five? Taiwan and China. That could be a top five. And then you have Ukraine, Israel, and Iran.

[00:11:11] That's the fourth one. And Indian Pakistan. I think this would rank. Maybe it's the fifth most. And I don't even know if you can really rank any of those. But my point is, Indian Pakistan, a lot of war games and a lot of real experts that I've read about and read their opinions. I think this is a top area where SHTF could originate from because it just would permeate to the rest of the world.

[00:11:40] Yeah, I'm thinking in terms. You're not wrong. You're not wrong at all. But I'm focused on what kind of major fighting might spark off in Ukraine tonight. I think there's reports that Russia has already done a barrage of ballistic missiles, including Hing Kev. So, you know, when one hand's doing something over here, what's the other hand's doing?

[00:12:05] India and China, both the nuclear armed states, giant populations have border. In fact, this same Kashmir-Jammu area has territory that India claims that China has seized, right? China has forces and has, you know, exposure. They're right there next to this conflict zone. And what the Indian nuclear posture is, it's got to be something that they plan for in Beijing all the time, right?

[00:12:34] You know, China's probably reinforcing its border right now. China allies essentially with Pakistan. Making sure Pakistan stays as a client state of China is an objective. You know, the second order effects of this. What other countries now look at for entirely unrelated, you know, unrelated to Jammu Kashmir.

[00:13:01] Does this provide cover for Israel to take a strike on Iran, right? If nuclear weapons start getting employed or even, you know, a real crisis where it's almost deployed and really bad threats and the world's holding its breath about Kashmir in the next 24 hours. What happens elsewhere at the same time? Gets very unstable fast.

[00:13:31] It does. And we've been watching things become more and more unstable over the years, over the 304 episodes of Patriot Power Hour. Certainly rather have Trump in office than Kamala Harris at this point. But I don't even know if Trump could prevent every crisis from spinning out of control at this point. Let's do this news blitz. What do you say? Go for it, man. All right. Well, we've already gone through all these articles. Let's start there anyway.

[00:14:03] Indo-Pac war starts over the last few days, but especially tonight. This has been lighting up real quick. Pakistan test fires nuke-capable ballistic missile as tensions with India soar. India said to have cut water flow to Pakistan. India attacks Pakistan from three places from their own airspace. These missiles hit nine sites. New reporting coming in there. Operation Sindor is the name.

[00:14:32] S-I-N-D-O-O-R. Operation Sindor. Indian Armed Forces Strike Guerrilla Camps. Not Pakistani forces is what we're seeing here. So they didn't hit, you know, a million dollars worth of jets on the ground. Forget the dollars. They didn't put any threat on the Pakistani nuclear arsenal. There you go. That's what's important. Because use it or lose it, right?

[00:15:02] There you go. Heavy artillery all throughout the areas. I'm not even going to try to read them. Indian heavy guns respond in equal measure. India airstrikes on Pakistan proved deadly with two planes shot down and huge escalation. So India was the one hitting Pakistani territory but lost two of its own planes, it seems. Fears of war between the two nuclear armed states.

[00:15:32] Let's finish off geopolitics and really security. And you're right. There's a lot already going on and could some of this escalate because of Indo-Pac war? We'll see. Well, we have the Indo-Pac-com commander of the United States stating that China has had a rapid boil for military action against Taiwan. Meanwhile, U.S. buzzes Chinese military satellite.

[00:16:03] China exhibiting end of regime conduct. Experts warm of this perplexing behavior because the tariffs push them over the edge. Internal revolution. Protests erupt in China. Steep U.S. tariffs really biting them. Houthi ballistic missiles slamming to Israeli international airport, injuring several.

[00:16:26] Trump, though, was talking at the White House with Mark Carney of Canada today stating that Houthi cried uncle. They don't want to fight anymore and they won't attack shipping anymore so we won't hit them anymore. This is, you know, just a day or two after they hit Israeli international airport. Heard a few people didn't kill anyone apparently.

[00:16:48] The point is maybe that'll reverse course and heat back up if Indo-Pac goes out of control again. We have a couple other security that might not be related to or one more that's not necessarily related to those theaters of potential war, I guess, but still important. XNSC official fears open AI completely penetrated by multiple spy agencies.

[00:17:15] So open AI, IE, chat GPT and all those permutations completely penetrated by multiple spy agencies worldwide. So yeah, give them your data at your, I guess, peril or risk. Liberty indicators couple. Sec def threatens Iran over Houthi support. Epstein victim's father says she wasn't suicidal.

[00:17:45] Demands investigation. Economically federal government debt on an unsustainable path amidst the treasury secretary. We've seen Bitcoin spike crazy just in the last hour or two. I don't know if it's out of fear because India, Pakistan are just totally unrelated because Bitcoin's crazy. But we saw gold just today go up.

[00:18:09] Let's just say yesterday and today go from 3250 to just above 3400. Not those records we saw, you know, just a few weeks ago, but quite a run back up for gold in the last couple of trading days. You know, real World War three craziness is going on. I expect gold to just go to $10,000 overnight. I don't know. It's rather tepid the last couple of hours, but U.S. markets are closed.

[00:18:38] We'll see what happens tomorrow. But yeah, again, Bitcoin up pretty crazy recently. Trying to get back up to the 100K mark. Go for it. Jeez, I think future Dan, there's no real other economic info. There's literally no health or this fourth column over here. No health or natural news, which is no news. Good news generally in our business. So future Dan, what's your thoughts on the news blitz?

[00:19:07] What do you want to hit on first? Let's hit on the comments on StreamYard. So we got Jay Fergie in the house. Thank you for the compliment. We are the dream team. I appreciate that. Cashmere. Cashmere spelled C-A-N-E. S-H-M-E-R-E. The goat wool. It's derived from the region. Cashmere, right? So that textile came from this region.

[00:19:37] It became famous in the 18th, 19th centuries. So same word, but spelled different. One's a fabric and one's a site of a war tonight. And of course, Les Eppelin song, but cashmere. Yes. Cashmere sweaters, right? Yeah. So, uh, yes. Oh, by the way, as always, thanks for folks. Turn tuning in live.

[00:20:04] We do have chat feature, whether it's rumble X or YouTube. We have a fair amount of live listeners right now. Cause this is breaking news with India and Pakistan. In the last 15 minutes, 20 minutes, uh, future Dan, and I can even pull up X if you want me to, but have there been major developments on some of the trusted sources and, uh, searches that you have on X? Cause this seems like a real fiery situation. There might've been updates just recently. Yeah. Let's sit, let's set India and Pakistan aside for a moment.

[00:20:34] I would say it's slightly escalated past where it was in 2019, but both sides have domestic audiences to play to. So if they can both come away, you know, telling their domestic audiences that they, you know, served, you know, punishment or justice to each other, it could return to, you know, every five years we get a border skirmish like this, or it could go through the roof. And that's why we have to watch it.

[00:21:03] But turning our attention to a bigger issue, look at these articles about China. I think behind the scenes, it's been hinted at the part of making a deal to get your tariffs lower could easily be a, a term from the Trump administration to raise your tariffs on China to basically build a worldwide.

[00:21:29] I don't know, quasi embargo, semi embargo, definitely going right after the Chinese economy and, and essentially Trump's flexing power that has always been latent in our country. And in my opinion is it is deserved after the COVID-19 bioweapon attack.

[00:21:50] So Gordon Chang, very famous, you know, staunch anti-Chinese communist analyst on geopolitical matters with China. That's where this article for Chinese revolt or coup occurs. If you could pop that headline open for us, China is exhibiting end of regime conduct. Expert warrants in perplexing behavior. There he is. There's Gordon Chang.

[00:22:19] I like listening to this guy. He is serious, serious author, and he knows what he's talking about. And, you know, he, he, he, he does have his political angle on this. The collapse of the communist Chinese party in China would be very welcomed by this man as it would be too. So he's writing this article. You know, if you're a Chinese communist proponent, you'd say it's, it's spin,

[00:22:47] but he's making the case that things are not all, you know, hunky dory in the regime in China. Right. And, and, and, and, you know, honestly, if you lived through the cold war and you saw what Reagan did to the Soviet Union, a period of time in Trump's life. I mean, he was a young man and saw that happen.

[00:23:06] And it could very well be secretly the national policy of the United States to foment dissent inside of China to the point where at least the Xi regime falls, if, if not the communist party. And, and from a liberty point of view, that would be a monumental step forward in human civilization. But in the near term, it's also seriously dangerous.

[00:23:36] Last week. And I want to kind of tie this in with the price of gold last week is announced that China sold, I believe was 1 million ounces of gold. That might be just to placate the masses. Things are hitting them so bad. They're actually having to sell their physical gold reserves to keep massive riots and destruction. I'm not saying that's absolutely true, but that was just regular financial news. China sold a lot of its gold at the top or near the top, which was late April into May, which is around 3,400.

[00:24:06] Dropped down to 3,200 almost within, you know, a week or less. That's right when these tariffs are starting to bite. Why else would China sell those physical gold? Not to mention they're selling tons and tons of U.S. treasuries, which is part of the retaliation, but also ways to, ways to raise capital to barely keep their, you know, civilization going along because, you know, they're hurting real bad.

[00:24:35] So I wanted to float that potential idea. Then we have, you know, tie that in with the protests in China and what you also said about Chang. Chang. So we're watching these, we're watching all these different metrics and I think each week we'll see more and more evidence of concern and hopefully China will acquiesce. We'll drop all its tariffs on us. We'll be a free society and we can trade with them. So that's a long way from here.

[00:25:02] And I also agree that we need to play real hardball. Actually, going back super quick, we don't have the. Hey, Ben, you started the video. We're listening to Maria Bartima. Oh, I can't hear you. That sucks because I can't even hear it. Yeah, just kill that webpage. We're good. All right. I don't know if that's even there, but block that out. Glad you told me because I wouldn't even notice. No one would be able to hear me. Still going on too. Awesome. I don't even know which one it is, man.

[00:25:32] This is why I would need to. Who knows where it could be at this point? Maybe it's here. I'm just going to start closing everything. When in doubt, close. Except for don't close stream yarns. Still not working. We can still hear you. Yeah. I don't even see her anywhere on my sting. So who knows where that is, brother.

[00:26:02] Too bad. Too bad. You sure that's not on yours? You didn't open a window by accident on your own, did you? Anyway, I'll keep looking around. Maybe I got some tab. I'm just going to close everything. All of Twitter. Yeah, we're good. All right. Good. To summarize that article, though, what Chang's saying is,

[00:26:24] the trade war, the things that Beijing's doing near Philippines, Taiwan, South Korea, Australia. Despite needing trade partners, they're still very adverse to these, almost all of their neighbors. The missing generals, and some of the generals that go missing in China, or are relieved of command and quietly retired at least,

[00:26:54] they're not Xi guys. They're actually other power centers in the Chinese military. So, you know, and if you adhere to, you know, a certain worldview, like we do, that communist regimes are, you know, utterly corrupt and destined to failure, that's what Chang's article is about, is the Trump trade wars.

[00:27:22] It's not necessarily about economics. It's about collapsing an adversarial regime. And just before Maria Bartoloma, or whatever the heck her name is, interrupted us, I was going to say that part of what's going on with China's, you know, you were talking about the worldwide boycott or semi-embargo of China Trump's trying to put together.

[00:27:49] Well, today, again, when he was talking with Mark Carney of Canada in the White House just a few hours ago, he was saying, hey, for some of you countries, I just, you know, it might be financial. I need you to cut the tariffs or pay fees and we'll play nice. For some of you others, it's more about freedom or it's more about opening up for business or with regard to, you know, maybe stop doing so much business with China

[00:28:16] and we can start trading with you again with less or no tariffs. So Trump mentioned that it's not just about the financial part of it. It is a little bit cultural and it is certainly national security. It's all boiled up and each country is different. He also said, I'm not really going to sign any plans. Like they're going to do it. And as soon as they stop doing it, you know, the tariffs are coming back. I'm not signing plans necessarily. And, you know, it's up to them. They need us.

[00:28:44] And finally, I just to put a bow on it. I like this. I'm loving this. Trump, by the way. He said, America has all the cards, but we, you know, we barely got this done in time. Like we've been in going back to what you said, where America had this power, this market leverage, but since World War II really, even before. But we've been losing a little bit over the years, over the years.

[00:29:10] And if we didn't turn it around now, I mean, it's still like in question, if we can turn it around now, I think we can. But if we went another five, 10, 20 years like this, then America really would have been in a backseat position and screwed really compared to China specifically and others. So I know I've been saying a lot, but just want to get that all out there. China's backs a little bit up against the wall by this trade war.

[00:29:33] And now in Asia, we got India and Pakistan going at it, breaking eight minutes ago. This is not confirmed, but the Pakistani defense minister is saying that they have taken Indian POWs. Taking Indian POWs. So land battles, not just throwing shells at each other, but raids or even full on infantry attacks.

[00:30:02] I guess it could be POWs from airplanes that were shot down technically, but we'll have to watch that more developments there. Yeah. So meanwhile, in our lives and then listeners of Pepper Broadcasting Network, right? We're going to ruin. What day are we on? I haven't eaten a lot, so I can't remember. So Saturday was first day, Sunday is second, third. Today's four. We're almost done with four.

[00:30:30] I pretty much hit four straight days of starting now of not eating real food, I guess. I went with only my supplements. And my supplements, I'm putting it out there. They'll be just transparent. I'm drinking muscle milk, which is not anywhere near as long-term storage as the other foods were, the products we're reviewing this week. But 160 calories times three a day.

[00:31:00] So I had that much with 75 grams of protein, which is why I'm doing it on Saturday and Sunday. Then yesterday, we had a little first try at our Ready Hour product. So we've started our Ready Hour product review. Well, I will be potentially supplementing down the line, but I'm sticking more with the straight up,

[00:31:29] hey, if you don't forage it, if you don't hunt, if you don't trap, if you don't fish it, I get zero calories that day. So Saturday, Sunday, and today, Tuesday, zero calories. Yesterday, I ate my 2,000 or so calories of storable food and then supplemented an additional 500 calories with two bottles of muscle milk or equivalent, not the exact same brand, and a little bit of cod liver and cod liver oil.

[00:32:00] So I've calculated, and I won't go too deep into it. I will share my spreadsheet on a future episodes and during our Rational Ruin later this week, all the guys are going to get together and talk through it. So we won't get too deep into it. But I estimate about, I'm bigger than the average guy in terms of weight. So 2,500 calories is more my base load, not 2,000. So I hit 2,000 calories of storable food like we agreed to. And then my supplements were about 500 calories.

[00:32:29] So about zero deficit yesterday. But yeah, I'm at about 7,500 calorie total deficit based on my spreadsheet. So that's two pounds of fat. Each pound of fat has about 3,500 calories in it, if any of y'all didn't know. So I'm already like down a couple pounds. And my actual weight is down like four plus pounds,

[00:32:55] even though I've only lost a couple from actually burning fat and maybe a little muscle, unfortunately. At least half of the weight right now is because water, water weight. When you don't eat, especially if you go multiple days, your body will kind of drain off some of that water. So a lot of fluctuation in my weight though, because when I did eat the storable food high in sodium and, you know,

[00:33:24] I gained five pounds in about three hours yesterday. But I've lost almost all that by today, which is about 24 hours later. So yeah, that's where I'm at so far. I'm feeling okay though in terms of energy, memory. I'm probably rambling a little bit more, but I felt worse live on air. So we're doing okay so far. So I shot you a little artificial intelligence exercise that I asked Grok to do for us.

[00:33:50] Because we announced ration or ration, and, you know, we're going to do one product a week. So right now the product of the week is ready hour. Emergency storable food. And I thought to myself, if we're going to review this, we should, you know, have kind of a balanced, you know, set of metrics or attributes that we can kind of compare. Next week will be Mountain House.

[00:34:19] The third week is going to be XMREs. And the last week is going to be freeze drive food from Dave Jones's Homestead. So three off the shelf, long-term food solutions and one storable solution, but not preserved for a 30 year period. Right. So I asked the AI to, you know, just suggest some metrics and it did. And we're going to talk about them in a minute.

[00:34:49] And then I asked it to kind of like consider, you know, on, for every one of these metrics, what's the least and the most, the worst and the best that a particular product could be. And then I thought, you know, some of these metrics are actually interrelated with other metrics. So if you're going to like bash or knock an aspect of a product, you got to take into consideration why it's that way. If it has interdependencies.

[00:35:16] So I want to, I want to run through these attributes and we're both eaten off a ready hour. You, we both ate it yesterday and this, this, I, I, I'd like to suggest for Tuesday. Patriot power hours is sort of a, you know, a preliminary scorecard. And like you said, a moment ago by Friday, we're going to get together and have, you know, the final say on how that product was.

[00:35:43] Again, we're only eating these emergency storable foods on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. And we're eliminated to 6,000 calories or 2,000 calories for those three days. So you want to, you want to jump through some of these metrics with me? Let's do it. I like it. Like you said, uh, you can't be score a perfect 10 in all these metrics. It's literally impossible. So you got to give and take somewhere. So let's go for it. Longevity.

[00:36:11] First thing most people think about, right? So in any food, I mean, what is it shelf stable? How, how long will it last? So zero is it spoils within days or weeks, like fresh produce from, from wherever you may get it. And, and a 10 on the long jet longevity scale is, you know, shelf life of 30 plus years,

[00:36:34] which is what ready hour claims and, uh, the interdependencies, like what else is related to this? Well, I'm going to preview some other attributes by doing this, but the packaging, right. Durable packaging, Ziploc seals, the ready hour has Ziploc seals. So you don't have to use all of the contents of a pouch, uh, additives. You're talking about the additives, the sodium, but it's not just sodium. There's a lot of preservatives.

[00:37:02] So, you know, as a catch-all additives is a different attribute to look at. Um, it has a downside and we'll get into that in a minute, but it's contributes to longevity, right? And, and, and preparation, another attribute, you know, freeze, freeze, freeze foods require preparation, more preparation. I was actually used to, I was doing more cooking for a longer amount of time yesterday than I'm, uh, that I usually do. So that's longevity.

[00:37:31] Uh, any, any, any, any word from your perspective on ready hours product in that regard? Oh, they, it's gotta be, if not the best and possibly one of the best with regard to longevity. And what I'm going to do here real quick is copy paste this. So people can read maybe some of this, uh, but it's gotta be like a nine or 10 out of 10 for longevity. That's the best strength by far. Yeah.

[00:37:59] We're not going to measure it further by Friday. So on the, on the longevity scale, ready hour is going to be, you know, up, up towards the max, but right after longevity or right there with longevity, you got to think about nutrition zero on the scale of the insufficient calories, uh, lacking essential nutrients, no protein, vitamins, minerals. I mean, it's food, but you can get malnutrition.

[00:38:27] If that's all you're eating on the zero end of that scale, the nutrition scale on the 10, it's, it's everything that's best about any diet that you could possibly have. Right. All the proteins, all the freshest foods, all the sufficient carbs and fats. Right. I'm not a nutritionist and I haven't studied the labels on these packages. I probably will as I eat them. Cause I'm looking right now, I got them right in front of me. I got traveler stew, creamy chicken flavored rice. Notice that's not chicken.

[00:38:56] That's just chicken flavored rice and, uh, cheese and broccoli and rice soup. So I'm not going to read packages on this stuff, but you know, you know, the, the, the nutritional label, but I mean, it's food. There's nutrition in here. I'm not sure where it hits on that scale. Do you, I have a pretty good guess in my opinion. I, I do at least.

[00:39:22] So I'm mostly looking at macronutrients to keep it simple. So, so you want to have not a whole bunch of carbs with no protein and no fat. Now, some fats are better than others and some proteins are better than others. But with the, like, let's just take the, so far the worst by the cream, you know, strawberry cream of wheat.

[00:39:51] It was like 90 plus percent carbohydrates. Yeah. Almost no protein, almost no fat and also fiber. Don't forget fiber. So it has no fiber, no fat, no protein, all carb. These are all low protein. I got the packages here. I got the packages right here. They're all like seven grams per serving. They're not very high. And it's seven grams of protein.

[00:40:17] It's like 40 or 50 grams of carbs, which is just like a horrible ratio. I usually go the opposite where I want like 50 grams of protein for like five or 10 carbs, but I'm keto most of the time. But my point is that's one, that's a baseline nutrition. If you don't get better, a better mix than that, like you can't get higher than a four out of 10, like no matter what, in my opinion. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, the next attribute, which is you can't avoid it.

[00:40:46] You got to talk about it, but I would question whether it's of the same standing. As you know, longevity and nutrition is taste. So zero is extremely unpalatable. It's going to lower morale in your group. If you're eating it, it's just not good. Right. And 10 is, you know, the most, you know, gourmet food that you prefer that you could possibly imagine on a scale of one to 10 ready hour. Just, just the meals you ate yesterday.

[00:41:17] What are you thinking about the taste? So we have, I think, I believe five meals, but again, they're multiple servings. So five meals. I've used two of the five, the strawberry cream of wheat. I had about 800 calories, 700 calories worth. It was pretty horrible. Two out of 10 taste. Yeah. It was, it was rough. It was rough. I had the same thing yesterday, but I also had the potato soup.

[00:41:46] And it was much higher on the taste scale to me. Me too. I gave it like a six out of 10. And what I'm thinking of is like literally at a, like a nice restaurant, what would their potato soup be like an eight or a nine or a 10? So I was like, this is a six out of 10. You know, I kind of boiled it down longer than the instructions and got it a little bit more solid. Cause after not eating for Saturday and Sunday, I was like, I need to have this, you know, I need, I need to get filled.

[00:42:14] I need to have felt like I ate something. So my stomach would start growling. Right. Yeah. Well, you know, I could see an emergency scenario eating that without any problem once, maybe three times every two weeks. And you know, the, the potato soup I'm talking about, God, I don't like cream of wheat anyways. So the three, the 30 year lifespan cream of wheat was, yeah, it was rough.

[00:42:44] Next up variety. All right. So this is hard because we were busting up and breaking out. I guess you had what a three month pail of ready hour and you broke it up for James and I and you to do this product review. So, so the variety, uh, you, you made sure none of that. We, we didn't get repeat packages and anything. So I'm thinking that the variety is decent, but you know, a zero would be, you're eating the same meal every day.

[00:43:15] 10 is the most luxurious widest range of meals. What, what do you, what are you thinking about this variety? So this one, I'm gonna have to, it's kind of wishy-washy. What I would say is the basic ready hour buckets that I've have. Let's just say I've spent like $500 on them and it was a while ago. So they're more expensive now, but I have like 10 of these buckets and they go as pairs.

[00:43:41] So it's really five pairs of, you know, equals 10, five times two equals 10. Yeah. I only opened one of the buckets. So there was only like five types. The other bucket has an entire five different variety that I've never tasted. And I, and you guys didn't get any. So there's some built-in extra variety there that we won't ever notice. Um, one thing I'll say, I got hungry like a few weeks ago and I, we were looking through

[00:44:09] this stuff and they had some banana chips, essentially like freeze-dried bananas that were in I ate them up already and they were pretty good. So they were actually pretty damn good. Those only lasted 10 years though. It said it clearly on the bag, 10 years only. They're about three years old and I ate them and they were pretty damn good. That wasn't part of rationing room. But my point is there is a little bit of variety.

[00:44:32] Um, but eventually it's a lot of soups, mashed potatoes, mashed potato soup, and just rice type things like you'll get real sick of mushy mouth stuff. I'll tell you that. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, you, you saw the total array of products that your bucket came in. Let me ask you this.

[00:44:55] How many days would a group of people feeding off of this emergency supply food have to go before you are on the second or third or fourth time that you had to eat some of these things that you really, some of it's not bad, but some of it like the cream of wheat, that'd be rough. How many weeks do you think before you'd start to get a food fatigue, right? You want variety because food fatigue is a thing.

[00:45:24] It's sort of on the softer side, right? Nutrition is on the hard side. Like is the nutrition there? Yes. No. Can you consume it? And can you function? Taste food fatigue. Variety is a little bit more on the, you know, depends on how hard you are. Right. And, and sure. If you're eating this, you're maybe sad to say, but you're going to be getting harder. Yeah, exactly. That, that enjoying life in Hawaii or something like that.

[00:45:52] Probably a month before you started to get food fatigue with one bucket. Is that. I feel like you could have. Let's say. Well, one thing I do is I eat twice a day during this. So I don't have three meals. I have two. So I would say you could have two different meals per day and have a completely different, all different for an entire week. So that's like 14, like 14 separate things.

[00:46:18] And so you could probably go, if you went a month, you'd only eat each thing for four, you know, four times within a month. I mean, but that in particular, getting sick of the potato rice or, I mean, the potato soup, that would be a little tougher, but just overall being sick of storable food. Of course, you would get food fatigue much more quickly. Now the strawberry cream of wheat is different because I hate that already. And I don't ever want to eat it and get on us already.

[00:46:45] I might try to force myself to eat it on like day 27 of our challenges to see if I like it more, but there you go. Ready hour is going to have its, this is ready hours week. It's, it's the product review of ready hours. So don't say. Well, I got other bags is what I mean. I might just try it out. Okay. Maybe I'll try it after the exercise. What I meant is like, if I'm more hungry in like two weeks from now, because this is only week one by week three or four, I might like that cream of wheat a little bit more.

[00:47:12] Well, we did say in our signal chat when, when, and James Walton's doing this at the same time, right? Right. If you actually could forage berries, fresh berries, then the cream of wheat that you're eating them in would be tolerable. If it was loaded full of forage berries. So maybe you want to try this again in June when the strawberries are, you know, maybe July when the blackberries are out. Perfect.

[00:47:41] And if I had not eaten the, uh, banana chips already, the freeze dried banana chips, it would have gone decent in it. Not great, but it would have gotten from like a two out of 10 to like a four out of 10, which that can make a big difference. Yeah. I, I, I can't give the, the cream of wheat, uh, even a two. It was rough to eat. Rough to eat. Preparation is probably part of that. So preparation is our next kind of zero to 10 metric, right?

[00:48:08] Zero is, is it's on the low side, complex preparation, multiple steps, cooking equipment, significant resources, not really practical in an emergency or, you know, get ready to get thrown back to the, you know, 1800s when you cooked the meals by wood fire. Right. 10 is minimal preparation, just add water, no cooking needed. And we already know that the X MREs, they're civilian newer versions of military ready to eat.

[00:48:38] We're going to, we're going to look at X MREs two weeks from now. They're going to score a 10 on the, on the minimal preparation. They're ready to eat. It's like literally in the name ready hour though. It's takes, it takes a little bit of work. How'd you find the preparation score for ready hour? Their, their, their preliminary score on Tuesday. I'm going to answer that super quick, but do want to say another shout out to Jay Ferg.

[00:49:05] Jay Ferg says she commends us for this. She just, just got moved so she can't do this this time, but maybe it'll inspire to test some other things out. If not, just try out some of your storable food, you know, folks out there. If you don't want to starve yourselves a little bit, at least try out some of your storable food, see what you like, see what you don't like. Jay Ferg finally says my biggest issue would be my food allergy. I think this is something we'll talk about a little later here.

[00:49:30] Like if it messes you up, but a knock on wood, my food allergies, I don't really have any and I did not get messed up by it last night. So Jay Ferg, thanks again for in the chat. Will anybody else out there have questions or thoughts? Let me know. So preparation for ready hour, both of the, both the cream of wheat and the potato soup were, I don't know.

[00:49:56] I would say, I'm going to say seven out of 10. So the higher, the number, the easier it is to make. So that's kind of good. You would think it's, you want to be higher, of course. So, uh, you got to boil water and you got to kind of whisk it and stir it a bit, but it's still just pretty damn easy. Couple steps, boiling the water and spending 10, 15, 20 minutes stirring it to taste.

[00:50:23] And all that is a little bit of a pain to ass, especially if you were doing it by a fire and you worried about people trying to come and kill you or steal your stuff. Uh, I'd much rather have an MRE. So maybe it's not a seven out of 10, just for the fact you have to boil water. Maybe that, what do you think the hard cap on that is? Yeah. Yeah. It was, it was, it's work. It's work. It's nothing our ancestors couldn't have done, but when you live in modern life and you

[00:50:51] can microwave things fast and lots of food comes, you know, ready to eat. Oh yeah. Sure. If, if, if you are not, you know, back to basics, homesteading for producing fresh food and you guys, you know, you're making, you're making freeze dried soup. Right. So you got to measure it. Right. I think I did the, the cream of wheat wrong. They got to put too much water in it and it made it worse.

[00:51:20] So I'm not giving ready hour a seven just yet, but I have three more of these pouches to make. So we'll see. Now it's less than seven for me. Um, cost the next factor, uh, do you happen to know which package you bought? Cause I looked up ready hours, current offerings. Right. And maybe, yeah, maybe you could tell us which one. There we go.

[00:51:50] Yeah. They're, they're, they're, they're X handles in there and you can get to their website from it. Nice. Oops. Wrong thing. There we go. So I don't remember the exact price, but it was. So you go to the, uh, case pack. No bulk foods. Oh no. Emergency food kits. Top left choice in the menu. There you go. Perfect. This is exactly what they look like. The two week emergency food supply. This is it.

[00:52:20] Yes. It comes with two different buckets, like bucket one and bucket two. I think I looks, I don't see the two different buckets, but I did get a two week emergency supply. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I got a one month emergency supply and each bucket is two weeks. I think it is that actually. So I got to double check all this because again, I got pairs of buckets. I got five pairs of buckets. That's 10 total buckets, which in this in theory would be $1,270.

[00:52:46] I sure as hell didn't pay that much, but I know storable food has gone up 30, 40% since the pandemic, if not more. This looks very similar because I definitely have Mac and cheese. You guys didn't get any. And I didn't open that up, but I know for a fact that has that it has the, uh, I know we have the home saw potato soup, maple grove, oatmeal, Southwest rice, buttermilk pancakes, long grain, white, white rice, creamy chicken flavored rice. I believe that was yesterday. Yeah. All right. Yeah.

[00:53:16] For breakfast. What none of us got was orange energy drink mix. So that's like eight, nine or 10 out of 10 in terms of, I think you just mix it up and drinking and it's, you know, sugar and, uh, electrolytes. So that wasn't part of what we had, but the bucket had it as well as those banana chips. I'm telling you, this is one of the best things. It's not in this bucket though. It must be in the other bucket. Uh, the chips were good. Tons of calories and literally just open a bag and eat them. So that was good. I know you're hungry. I was freaking starving.

[00:53:44] We, we sort of deviated. Let's go back to cost. Oh my God. The cost measurement on this is, um, we got to do the apples to apples. So I don't think we're going to have a score even this Friday, but we got to go and look at the costs and the count basically, you know, cost per calorie might be the easiest way to do the measurement, but I'm pretty sure the cost on ready made hour is going to be on

[00:54:11] the low side compared to the other products that we're doing this week or this month. Uh, you know, we talk about apples to apples and then there, you know, are apples to oranges. They're different with quantities and different packaging. So, you know, you got to equalize it. How do you actually measure Dave and Maria's time producing the week of food that we're going to eat in them? Um, some would argue it's cheaper, but their labor went into it and that, that wasn't, you know, time is money.

[00:54:38] So cost is going to be a hard one to measure, but I'm getting a feeling this is, this is preliminary. It's ready. I was going to be on a, you know, a higher affordability score. I believe. I agree. It'll certainly be higher affordability than the mountain house, which is known as relatively premium. We'll I'll run the numbers though, especially just at today's market prices. We'll just compare. We'll try to do that.

[00:55:04] But anyway, next week, mountain house, I feel like that will be a little more expensive and the XMREs are definitely more expensive, but they are, they look so good. I'm already looking forward to them. Number one reason for that is the next attribute packaging. Yeah. All right. Actually, no. Well, packaging, but also after that portioning packaging is about how safely the food is, you know, packaged so that you can trust that it's edible when you go to use it, even if it's right. Decades later.

[00:55:35] So the packaging for ready hour seems, you know, superior. It's, it's, it's, it's going to be edible if it's kept, you know, according to directions, you know, dry, cool place. Um, this is not fleas flimsy, easily damaged pouches. They are about as durable and protected as they can be, but by, by what I can tell. They definitely are. And one thing I love about the ready hour are the buckets.

[00:56:04] They're storable, meaning easy to stack on each other and they're nice shape or whatever and extra level of protection for sure. Uh, I highlighted it for those that are watching the presentation, so to speak, pests, you know, packaging protects against moisture, light or pests in my early, early prepping days. Let's say about a decade ago, I had just a bunch of like oatmeal and relatively loose packaging, just in like a duffel bag.

[00:56:34] And it ended up in my garage and let's just say the mice got in there and ate it all up, made a huge mess, crapped all over the garage. So, uh, don't forget about pests and this bucket, the bucket makes it with a nice carry handle. I'll put me, I'm not gonna put it back on screen, but my point is that the packaging for ready hour is really good. It's two, two levels of packaging. You got the bucket and that goes for the, like the macro storing it. Right. And then the micro is a pouch and it Ziploc sealed.

[00:57:03] So you don't have to, you know, you can just pour out of it as much as you need to eat. So, you know, I, I, I'd give ready hour pretty strong preliminary grade for packaging portioning though. Right. That's important to talk about. I'm a former soldier. My experience in this kind of food is the meal ready to eat. So I'm getting, I'll read them real quick. Uh, we got cheesy broccoli and rice soup. This has four servings per container.

[00:57:32] The traveler stew has four. The what's this thing? Creavy creamy chicken flavored rice. This has four. And I think there was eight in the cream of wheat. And again, four in the potato soup. And you got to have the measuring instruments to pour it out and, and, uh, you know, do the recipes. Sounds simple, right?

[00:58:01] Sounds, sounds simple. Now add a major catastrophe. Shit sit the fan. You have no electricity. You haven't rehearsed this. You haven't trained on this. You're getting it started and finding a way to make this food off of a campfire. Uh, let's just say there'll be a learning curve there and it won't be an enjoyable one. No. And it's still early to tell. Cause we've only prepared a couple of things each.

[00:58:29] It sounds like, but I thought I did pretty damn good preparing both. Maybe I could make the trip cream of wheat better, but my point is it would only get worse than how I created it with all the electricity, you know, pretty happy life. I'm still living, even though I'm getting pretty hungry these days. Uh, I prepared as best as I could with measuring instruments, like you said on a stove top or whatever. And still like, you know, that was best case scenario and it wasn't the greatest.

[00:58:58] So the portioning you're right that I think the eight, uh, so the cream of wheat, and there's also oatmeal and pancakes, which we did not disperse, but that came in these buckets and you know, that's eight servings. That's like a pound of pancake batter. Right. Right. Which it's, uh, it is resealable, but it's not as, as awesome in terms of, uh, yeah, the portioning. So the portioning is not ideal.

[00:59:25] I don't think it's horrible, but I, yeah, it's like a six out of 10. I would give it so far. And a couple of weeks ago when we did our, you know, pre ration or ruin, you know, kind of planning event where we went on air with Dave and James, if you recall, Dave shared a story from his army service of, of the early MREs. And then we got all into army, army MREs and, you know, talking about how that, how it was like eating those.

[00:59:53] And, and one of the points I made and asked him about, and he confirmed is that, you know, you, you just throw them out to individuals when you, when it's time to open a case, you toss one to each person, you get rid of that whole dilemma of, you know, picking favorites and getting people, you know, pitted against each other and upset because they had to eat the, the tuna every single time. Right. The portioning for ready hour it's for a group.

[01:00:21] It's not for an individual. An individual can pour out a little bit at a time, pick and choose and have lots of choices, but for the portioning, when you make an entire pouch, right. Or, you know, how, you know, how to cook for people, how to cook for people and make sure everybody's getting, you know, the calories that they need. Right. It's, it's harder with ready hour. You're going to have to be in a tight, it's meant for a family. It's meant for a family that is tight with each other.

[01:00:49] It's not meant for strangers to start popping open these, you know, things and, and, you know, think about it. People would be starving or near starving in this scenario. The portioning for ready hour definitely means sociologically. You got to be in a group with trusted members. I like it. Yeah. I mean, they call it family style for a reason at the restaurants. This is family style. It's not half or one, uh, portion at a time.

[01:01:18] It's not like you're giving a hundred calorie, uh, energy bar or something, not even close. And we, uh, continue, uh, Jay Fergie's popping into the, uh, chat. She's has some updates. So why don't we read those? Uh, soy is her allergy. Um, oh yeah. Soy is so bad. There's so much GMO crap in this. I'm just pretending that it's not existing right now, but I am very sad for my DNA.

[01:01:47] Allergic reaction to soy. So that's, that's very important. If you're in to, you know, emergency food supply, make sure that you're going to be able to eat it. Right. So that Jay Fergie also says, we're going to love those MREs. We're going to love them compared to, uh, I think this week, because I think there's aspects to the MRE that are, uh, you know, it's got a little candy in there. Maybe I'm not getting any of that this week.

[01:02:15] Um, storage, we talked about storage and packaging go hand in hand in terms of storage. You're saying that the ready hour buckets that you have and shared for this product review are much preferred for your ability to stack them, store them, move them, put them in small places. It's, it's a good storage solution. You agree? Yeah, I think so. I like the bucket more than like a big chest of them because the bucket is fully loaded or

[01:02:43] kind of how it comes is about 20 to 25 pounds. So got 25 pounds in each hand, most adults, I think, and, you know, fire man carrier, whatever it's called farmer's walk, uh, 25 pounds in each hand, a bucket, right? A hundred yards or more. If you had to carry it or bug out with it and throw it in the car. So point is a good carry in there for a form factor. There you go.

[01:03:09] I do like that equal or more than some big chest that I've seen some storable food come in. And so you got that. Go ahead. And the MREs, those are in cardboard crates. So once you break them open, you're down to the individual meal ready to eat. But in terms of bulk storage, those ready hour buckets are, you know, perhaps superior to just a cardboard, uh, carton.

[01:03:36] And J Ferg said that rats can through chew metal cans. So they can get through metal. They can definitely get through probably these freaking buckets, honestly, but definitely cardboard. It would take them a while. Yeah, exactly. Better, you know, make sure it's up to you to also prevent pests from having full, all unlimited access to your stuff. So when I was coming up with these metrics, I wanted to make sure that a very, you know,

[01:04:04] behind the scenes, contentious aspect of ration or ruin is measured. Okay. So I tried to get a catch all category that would reflect the things that honestly, you and James are more worried about than myself. But among the four of us, including Dave Jones, I'm, I'm definitely the least concerned, right? But additives, right?

[01:04:28] And, and, and, and the health effects, what you, what it means to you immediately after eating it is, is, is a dimension that we should talk about. Right. So counterintuitively, perhaps to you intuitively, I think to many people, but perhaps counterintuitively to you, you could see that in interdependency of additives is flavor.

[01:04:52] So additives, the reason they are in modern foods is because they sell better because they generally thought to taste better. What do you think? That's some of it in these storable foods and for general food, that's just out there. That's even bigger reason for the additives is for taste and to addict you. If a RFK make America healthy again, checking that out specifically for this, I expect a lot

[01:05:21] more additives for preservation purposes, but still for some taste. Um, everyone focuses on sodium and it's huge. There's just so many like nitrates and other preservatives and electrolytes. Electrolytes, electrolytes could be good or bad, but, uh, let's just say these tend towards bad electrolytes. Whereas a fresh salad with broccoli and kale would lean towards good electrolytes.

[01:05:49] So at a minimum, this stuff is like eating fast food or microwave, you know, frozen dinners. So that is not towards my lifestyle. My lifestyle is a lot of whole foods, fresh foods if possible. So, uh, in terms of like how it'll hurt you, I think you might actually want high sodium on the other hand, when stuff hits the fan, because you're going to be exercising a lot,

[01:06:17] probably you're going to need some of those sodium. So if it's, you're only eating this stuff for a week, even a month, a couple months, like I'm not as worried about it, but if you literally was eating this crap for a year, three years, five years, I gotta believe, you know, your likelihood for cancer and other long-term diseases, diabetes has got to go up, but you know, it doesn't really matter if, uh, you're going to starve to death. Probably not. No, no, that's the important point, but that is, we have to think about it. We have to consider it.

[01:06:46] It's not just the health risk of doing an exercise like rash or ruin, which James Walton described as an extreme exercise. It's not for everybody. We know that, but I think, you know, the additives are there because you get the 30 year longevity. So it's a trade space really is, is all of these dimensions. And was that it for additives on the screen? Do we have another? Oh, let me see. Make sure I need to copy paste.

[01:07:16] No, I think you got them all. I think you got them all. Okay. So, so it's a trade space, right? You can do a spider diagram and I have each of these on a pole and you can measure from zero in the middle of the spider diagram out and see what the kind of the footprint of this. We really wanted to nerd out with the data on this product, four product reviews over the course of May, 2025 and scored all of these.

[01:07:41] We could get some kind of read on them, but additives is going to be, you know, a low score for ready hour. Right. It doesn't get, it doesn't get the last 30 years without the preservatives. It's just, that's just the way it is. One of my friends was over, uh, just before ration room kicked off. Uh, I was enjoying some good food and wine, et cetera, had pretty much, she is even more

[01:08:10] healthy eating than I. So she took a look at the back, essentially the ingredients of all three of them. And she said that the XR MREs looked fairly healthy. You know, this is relative. And then also the mountain house didn't look too bad. However, the ready hour and her opinion, especially a couple of the.