PBN Special Report: Secret Service Fail or What? w. Dave Jones

They are live PBM family. Welcome in Dave Jones, the NBC guys here with me tonight. We're a little late on this thing, but we're gonna be great on this thing. Okay, I can tell you that much. I can tell you that much. We haven't talked about it in deep detail and as much as we'll talk about sort of the critique of how things could have went. What I really like to get from tonight is what you could learn from tonight right for your own personal security, personal preparedness, home defense, whatever the hell. Dave Jones, thanks for joining us tonight, my man, how are you? I am good? How are you doing in trepid? Commander always good? Many thanks for last week. Here was a life star. Yeah, they've join p of the Week by far well thanks and look you you inspired the routine this month and it turns out it's really awesome. It's a really good one. Everyone needs to try it out, Okay, just you don't have to go the whole month. Just do a few days, a couple of days a week, whatever, and guarantee you you're gonna be like, oh I never thought that would turn out that way. Yeah, you're gonna feel great. After you do those first and you get them under your belt, I mean lessons learned, confidence building. Yeah, today was a one mile jog with the pistol in holster. Oh, because if you've never done that some things. No, you're good. Everything's fine on our head. I don't think you can change any of like the layout. Or good because I just tapped something on my thing here, how do I get this to go away? Ms? Oh yeah, I don't want them. Yeah. So, like we're gonna talk, We're gonna take a look at the video. I've got a little bit of a breakdown of sort of the how things took place before and during the attack. We're talking about the Cole Allen attempted whatever the hell he attempted shooting of the Secret Service agent and somehow made it out of there basically unscathed, which is amazing. When I watched a video, I don't even know how it's possible. I'm starting to think the Secret Service agent's guns have blanks in them based off of this thing. I don't know what could have happened, but it's it's really crazy to watch. So we'll watch some of the video, will go over sort of the play by play and then yeah, I can't wait to hear what Dave Jones has to say. Yeah, well, I mean you talked about it a little bit on air already. I heard you. Yeah, on over one thousand hours of police Academy training. I have a bachelor's degree in criminal justice and a master's degree in security management. And for the years that I was over in the Middle East, we looked at hotels, five star hotels that Tommy Franks, you know, the General and charge of Sentcom, would be staying in. So we did vulnerability assessments and wow, wow. I gotta tell you, wow, it is a wow. There's no doubt about it. Maybe we should set the stage a little bit for everybody to get their head back into it, because it has been what what's it been a week? Yeah, April. Oh no, it's been two weeks. April. It was a week on Saturday. I think, yeah, that's right, you're right. Yeah. So on April sixth, twenty twenty six, cole aland reserved the room at the Washington Hilton for three nights, the twenty fourth through the twenty six, which is kind of funny when you think about it. I wonder what he was thinking about when he reserved the night of the twenty sixth. That means he thought that perhaps I'll make it back to my room, right, because the incident happened on the twenty fifth, So if he booked the twenty six then he was thinking I might make it back and just enjoy a good night's sleep. Oh that's a weird one. Well, you got you gotta be there over the night. So he's not checking out until the next morning. Oh, because he'd have to check out. Yeah, that's right early, good point. Good point. April twenty four to twenty twenty six, Friday, Allen travels by train from near Los Angeles to Chicago. In Chicago to DC, What a What a hike. He arrives around one pm, checks into the Hilton he had purchased. The weapons used earlier a twelve gauge pump Mossburg in August twenty twenty five or thirty eight semi auto nineteen eleven were from Rock Island Armory in October twenty twenty three, and he also had a bunch of knives. I don't know what he was planning on doing with those, but I got viv for Vendetta vibes when I saw the knives on him. I'm gonna start hurling knives of people. How that goes? Well? Look at this video now, this is earlier April twenty fifth. Alan is seen in the hotel. You know what, let's just play it. We'll play it while I read, so it's not too boring, and feel free to chime in, Dave, you know whatever this is. This is FBI field audio program m hm, okay, that's the setup. Alan is seen on hotel surveillance video leaving his room, dressed in black, carrying the shotgun. Oh no, that's not this video. Concealed under a long black coat, handgun and knives in a black bag, uses an interior stairwell to avoid monitor I don't know if I have this part to avoid monitored areas. Exits now, he did a pretty good job. Interior stairwell to avoid monitored areas and exits near foyer, red carpet area leading to the ballroom where the black tied dinner is underway with Trump First Lady Milania. Yeah, shortly before eight form. Yeah. I don't know what he did in the gym. I guess he was. This is where he was just casing things. Yeah, he's looking around, and he ends up talking to this attendant there. This lady. Yeah, he's like, what are you doing later? I need a date? How fast you run? Okay? For some reason they increased playback speed here he's walking around. So at eight forty pm he sends a pre scheduled email to his family and employer, where he apologizes profusely for what's about to happen, signs off as cold, cold force friendly federal assassin Allen. Interesting. All right, let's see here he is after the case in the place. I wonder if we got the video of him with the trench coat on and everything. Three minutes pass, here he comes again, So this is Oh, this is the night before, this is the twenty fourth. What's at nine o'clock? Yeah? Yeah, nine oh six. At that door, I guess that's the door that exit, that double door exit right there might be the door. You'll see it here in a second. This part of the video, I don't know. Instagram, what is up? Nothing going on over there? Really? Instagram? Yeah, it's weird. Oh here he is here he is with the guns. That's the coat and the guns and everything. So he probably has the Mossburg slung over east shoulder. I guess, yeah, like this. Up under his arm pit so you can't see it sticking down. But it was a right, No, it was a shock wave. Oh is that what it was? Okay, yeah, no need see. Here's those double doors, Yeah, that he's been walking by, and here's the bomb sniffing dog. This is the guy who I think encounters him. It seems like it seems like he gets the gap and that somebody at those doors pause it for a second, and he's telling them, okay, so. So they're tearing down this this magnetometer. This is the check right, Yeah. So no one else is getting in, and that that big box. That thing folds up and goes in that big box. But what future Dan was talking about is having obstacles for people to walk around, so they can't just sprint through your checkpoint, you know, unless they're sp and that can leap over tables and linebackers and all that kind of stuff. You want them to not be able to do that, and you want to complicate the flow. And they didn't do any of that. They didn't do any of that. If it wasn't for that box right there that he had to go around, he would have had a straight shot. Oh that's a great point. Yeah, this is an unintended obstacle. Yeah, and they had they had no other obstacles. Usually you put like planners or tables or something like that out there to make the person go like this as they're going through to get screened. Well, it's weird that you have all the people on the walls. Three guys on the walls. Zoom in on those ladies because they TSA screening. They even have the same type of uniform that TSA has. I think they were running those metal detectors. Probably that's why they're off to the side. Yeah, and that's probably why they're not armed. I don't remember if they are or aren't. When the act kicks off, people start pulling guns quick. Yeah. I don't think that's right. You're right, Yeah, those two guys step step into the breach there. Yeah, okay, let's play. Let's play forward. Alan approached security checkmun on terrorist level the hotel mag nautometer area leading to the ball where he runs through the magnetometer while holding a long gun. He reportedly discards the coat allowed gun shots hurdy on fires A program and strikings. You can wearing ballistic best ones. We know that one, all right, So I was wrong. He doesn't shoot one of these guys right here. Oh, here he comes. We'll get to see it in slow mo, so don't worry. See, I thought he shot right there, but he didn't one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight nine nine drawn weapons maybe more because the guy's behind all right. Now. Yeah, there's guys over. There on the terrace. Yeah, let's see what the ladies do. And there's two guys that are taking the magnetometer apart. They get right in there. Here he comes, Yeah, go ahead. The dog guy backs off and that's when he comes out. Now, look at this this guy. He's drawn. They're both drawn on each other here. Yeah, and he's not the only one that shoots this dude, or at this dude. I don't know how he missed him. Well, he surely could have hit someone in the background there for sure. Maybe look he shot there. Yeah, you could see the gun. Yeah, there's the muzzle, muzzle flat. I think I think here. I think here he was thinking about his target and what's beyond it. He's thinking, I'm gonna shoot one of these dudes putting the thing away, or I'm gonna shoot one of these girls. He disregards all of that because that that's muzzle flash there. Oh that is right there, that is around going off. Yeah, David Jones, how do you miss him? How's that work? He don't know. This doesn't seem right to me, especially. If you're aiming center mass. Of course the guy was skinny, but holy cow, you're what you could have spit on him. You know what else is really weird? Right now? Look at my man at the magnominder. Yes, the one who's closest to the guy who just ran by with a gun. Yeah, why is he not turned his head? Yeah, especially if there's a shot being fired. He just saw a dude. Unless he I gotta go back, that's crazy. He must have put his maybe put his head down. It doesn't look like he moved all right, he's got his head down. He must have the earbuds in. This guy comes running. He doesn't even see him. Earbuds is a no no you now, I think the circles mean shots fire. I think you're right. Yeah, so that one guy shot then just he's looking up. Yeah, and then this guy jumps out of the way. He falls over. Oh, so one of them guys did take off. Hold on, let's go back. I gotta see this metal detector situation here. This whole thing is crazy. Well maybe it happened that fast. She trips that all of them try to scurry out of there. I'm just interested in this guy bent over here. It's really weird. He doesn't see him clearly, he doesn't see him. No, he's looking. You hear this though, there's no way you don't hear this action. I am boom, his head drops the little bit booom. That's two shots. And the guy there is. Watching, Yeah, the guy. People on the wall are clearly like they know it's going down. Yeah, they're cringing down, they're like, ah, like that. This guy in front of the box is grabbing his nuts right now. I don't know what he's doing. He looks like his holster hand is on the cabinet still it is it is. He's bent over like he got kicked in the balls, and he goes for the gun. Here. This dude's still getting This guy's shooting, is still trying to shoot people too. By the way, Yeah, I'm sorry. Look, that's like hunting training you take when you're a teenager, Like you don't want to shoot the guy past the guy right, and he's aimed at everybody working here. I mean, I guess you have you know, you have limited opportunity. We have stationary posts and then you have roving posts. Okay, so there should have been someone right out that door. There should have been someone in that fourier where he ran in from stationed to guard that whole entrance. I think these dudes were on break out here past these double doors or something. You're you're never in break. I mean, if you're on break, you're somewhere else. You're in the security operation center. You're you're not out there on the floor, because if you're on the floor, you have to be paying attention to everything. See my man in the in the back is on now, so he yeah, he must. He must have just been really fast and surprised him because he's reaching for his gun already. The h but he. And turn around. H. This dude falls over almost. See the other guy goes with the girls. The other metal detective worker goes with the girls. Oh no, he doesn't. He comes around like flanks a little bit. Then here come the guns. Yeah. Then three guys come out of the other fourier there. Why weren't one of those guys over there. That's a stairwell, right, the Virginia boy went too far, We went too far and we got an ad. So there's a security operations center that has all these cameras and it communicates with uniformed security for the hotel and playing closed security for the hotel. Okay, so they should have both. I mean, if this is a five star hotel, they should have all kinds of amenities. Yeah, and that guy. Who's watching all these monitors, there should be a Secret Service guy standing right there with him telling him. Pull this guy, pull this up, pull that up, do this. You know, he don't operate. The Secret Service guy can't come in and operate this guy's camera that he knows how to operate for forever, you know, does it forty hours a week every week? Yeah, this is and he can say. Show me this, zoom in on that, show me this stairwell. That the Secret Service puts their own guy in there to be able to call to the secrets nervous guys without having to go through anybody else. And d C Police, DC police should have you know, it goes back to Butler man. I mean, you think after a lashing like that, right, there's no way anything could be laxed after. Then again, they had the people, they had the numbers, but they did that was. Blocking, right, and and their their thing was it was outside of our perimeter. You know what, I don't care if it's outside of your perimeter. You know what. The perimeter of this was terrible. I mean, we in the Middle East, we looked mainly at bombs and bombing because that's what they were going to pull up and detonate a bomb. If they would have did it here. Do you know who would have been in charge of our country? A ninety two year old old senator who is the Senate pro tem and I can't remember his name off and he was the designated guy. He's ninety two. He can't even stay up this late. That's that's why they made him. And then because the President came, Loddie Doddy, everybody came. They said it was the most attendant they've had in years. Of course, yeah, because the President said he was coming, and boy, they wanted to see what he was going to say, you know firsthand. And wow, this failed on so many levels. You know, a truck would be really cool. What's the name of the hotel. The the Washington Hilton, the Washington Hilton. I'd love to get a map of the place. It's huge. It's been there since. It's nineteen sixty five, and it's it's big, it's massive. You can go to their website. I got it pulled up here. Yeah, and it has a massive ballroom. They had twenty five hundred people in there. Yeah. I'm trying to get like a like a facility's matt was in Hilton Washington Hilton Hotel floor This might do it. Oh yeah, it's a four star. How about that? Oh it is Yeah, geeesh, that's terrible. Well even a four star, who's going to host the president? It's gonna have some some stuff. We went into this hotel in Kazakhstan and uh, you know, it was to the point where we were playing stumped the dummy. We were trying to we were trying to find out what this guy, you know, if we could find anything on this guy. And Hillary Clinton had stayed there. Uh. This was when she was first Lady, not even you know. Yeah, and we said, uh, do you have a nurse on staff? With five nurses? Oh? Okay, do you have a doctor. We have two doctors. They are on call and one lives right over there. And the guy pointed to where the doctor lives. And then we said, uh, and and they're not required to have this, but we said, do you have a bomb sniffing dog or access to one? Yes, we have two of them on premises. We're like, holy cow, this hotel has everything. And they had used to this. Yeah, they had a private elevator. The top floor was the suite that uh, you know, the shakes, the saudy shakes and aid in and they had a private elevator. Security had their their own security operations center in that suite, so they had cameras that were in the suite that you could monitor that hole. And the upper the top floor was the suite. It was the Yeah, and the elevator. The private elevator didn't stop on any other floor. It only went to the penthals and to the garage in the basement. Yeah. And then when we said, well, how do you control the garage, they said, when anybody stays in that suite, they don't allow anybody to park in the garage in the basement. But yeah, well that makes sense. Yeah, I don't even. Look at this thing. Ah, look at that. So for what I can see, Yeah, the checkpoint is in into the right hallway, in through the foyer where the elevators are. Correct me if I'm wrong, in into the right. But I also have a picture of that that we can look at too real quick to figure out exactly where that checkpoint is. I wanted to take away's PBM family is like your home and your neighborhood. What we're doing right now. If you don't do this stuff, there's no way you can secure anything. Yeah, Like, if you don't have an overhead idea of your property at the very least, then there's no way you know where to put anybody. And you're not going to be like, oh, all of a sudden, we got problems. I know exactly where I need to put people. So it's important, you know. And they should have like us. Screening and scanning, uh you know, just cars pulling up to drop people off. And they should have been doing all of that because gosh, I think about Timothy mcmay bomb man. That would have been just devastating. Wow yeah the bomb Yeah. Yeah. And then you look at this image and you kind of could see what we're looking at. Yeah, so he got in and then ran around the corner because he was going around the corner to try and go down those stairwells because the ballroom is actually on the yeah, the next level down. Yeah, so he was, and he made. It to the top of those stairs. He almost made it to the stairs. You go. I would like to see footage of the apprehension. That's what I'd like to see. How did they take him down? How did he get his shirt off? That's what I'm trying to figure out. Yea, yeah, well they probably ripped it off of him. It's always he had all those knives and crap on him. They just, oh, you're right, you're right. Yeah, they kept digging and finding more weapons. They were like, just stripped this guy. Yeah, God only knows what he's got on him. But the dog didn't spell him, so I guess they were felt pretty comfortable about that. Well, the dog, you know, the dog kind alerted on him, but the handler kind of pulled him back. He was like, yeah, you're right. I think he even walks through. Let me share it again. I think he even walks through, which is crazy. Which one is this sharing man? The first thing I would have done was let that dog loose. The dog's only gonna go after the dog's only gonna go after the one guy that's running. I wonder what happened with him. He must have took off. He must say, I ain't getting. You can't run with a German shepherd attached your ass. That is physically impossible. You definitely ain't making any shots. I can tell you that was That's about the only thing that's gonna make your aim worse than these guys. Yeah, and apparently he wore the trench code down just to get the shotgun there. Because so is this him up up there? You're gonna see a guy come walking by. It looks like him. That's him, right, he's already in the room. It looks like him. Let's see Reddy Boom goes in. Okay, he must have stashed the shotgun in that fourier. The dog that's the dog alerts on him. The dog. Guy starts, if the dog's gone. I think they talked here, and I think he probably asked him, what the hell are you doing? Yeah, and then as soon as he walks away. Turns, he turns, and that's when the guy takes. Off and he's hitting. Now he's flying shot. You're right, because that shotgun, I don't know. That thing looks pretty long. Oh he took his trench coat off too. He's in his suit now, right. He went in there to drop the coat off, which is another weird thing. Right, unless you walk into a room drop the coat off. Anybody in that they have a trench coat on. Man that is ding ding ding ding stops. You know. This is the one that drives me nuts. Right here, Yeah, where's the bullet go? Nobody behind him gets shot. I don't see a hole in the wall. I don't see dust in the wall. Well, it would probably penetrate unless that's concrete. Maybe, yeah, maybe that's it. What a weird situation to be in. Yeah. I really love the concept of the uh pillars and vases and couches and all that shit in the way here. Yeah, because I think that's really a missed opportunity. Here. He comes three hundred percent slower these people. They just start looking. I draws. He draws because he sees the shotgun. Yeah, he's not true hit a gun, but he doesn't fire until he gets shot. That is so wild. How are they not shooting right now. That's amazing to me. He must have thrown the shotgun and dived on the floor game flying back. I saw that. I saw that. I did hear that he fell, he tripped or something, and that's how they got him. See, that's that's what I want to see. I want to see that. Oh they're already. Yeah, they taught they got him down quick, because what's flying back is the knives. What looks like it. Yeah, watch on the ground. There's two of them that come flying back. So they probably got him down and are ripping his coat off and throwing knives back here watching the middle by the feet. One two, yeah, two knives come flow. So I picture a guy on him pulling those off. And that's actually why. You chew and get a boner if that video didn't do it for you. Yeah, it's wild man. But there's a lot. There's a lot to pick apart there. Yeah, there's a lot to pick apart there because the guy. You know, when they apprehended him, he he was shocked that he was still alive. He he really this was a one way trip. I'd be interested to know if he booked return transportation. That's a good question. Yeah, you know around question, elf support says he was dressed up like the main character from hit Man two. Oh uh so yeah, Like I said, in terms of how things like this can be applied, one of the things that I think we got to wrap our head around in like a situational awareness situation is, uh, the speed. Everybody remarked on the speed, and you know that's real life, that's real life, you know what I. Mean that the adrenalin was pumping. You know, this was his one way mission to die. Yeah, he's in uh, he's in the padded cell. Now he's in the suicide watch because they don't want anything happening to him. I think your comments about the types of targets they're shooting, yeah, I'd had a lot to do with that. You know, it was clear that they're not shooting stuff that moves. There's no way do they do they have I mean, there are rangers that do that, that have targets that move, you. Know, just there aren't. The Secret Service got to have it right. Surely, surely they would. Yeah. When I was at the Federal Law Enforcement trainings, enter every other day half the class, we separated that class and in the afternoon right after lunch, you either changed out to do PT and PT was physical fitness and apprehension techniques. I mean it was cuffing, it was martial arts, it was takedowns, but TOM training. What happened there pretty quick. Now that I see those knives come flying back, it looks like they were well trained on that. Yeah, but they they said the guy tripped. They said that he tripped and was on the ground and that's when they jumped on him. So I'm wondering, you know, how far would the guy have got if he would have stayed on his feet. Maybe shot him. Yeah, maybe they'd have gunned him down if they could have. Somebody in that pack had to know how to shoot. That guy that was Yeah, didn't know how to shoot, that's for sure, or he didn't have a real It's gotta be one of the two. He had a blank fire and weapon or something. But he shot four shots off. I mean you could see them. Yeah, Like you said, you could see the muzzle flash boom boom booms. The guy hit, he was it was hit. It didn't even look like it bothered him. I wonder what he shot him with. There's no way he shot the guy with buckshot he just stood there and kept shooting. I don't know. It's a lot of kinetic energy close range. Dude, Yeah right, yeah, he must have had the body, Yeah. He had something. Yeah, I don't even see the guy like a little bit. No. Well, and then the other half of the class would go to the range and we shot. We had three fifty sevens and we shot different rangers, different, I mean, all different types of things. Time, m darkness, uh low late, and the only thing was our targets did not move, so it was obstacles. And the Secret Service did way more than we did, oh way more. Hunter Hunter in chat our man Hunter s F seven seventy said, uh, simunitions, airsoft heck, take the squad paintballing once in a while. In terms of like being able to learn how to hit moving targets, you know, yeah, because that is yeah. Yeah, and we we were trained. Never one shot when you drew in fire was bang, bang, bang bang. They didn't want to go bang and look, did you do anything right? You know? Yeah? So so here's the breakdown. He runs through the magnetometer why don't they call it him while holding the long gun chest shotgun. He reportedly discards the concealing coat. A loud gunshot has heard. Alan fires the twelve gage, striking the US Secret Service officer wearing a ballistic vest once in the chest with buck shot. I think the best thing we could do right now, Dave, for the PBN audience is find out what kind of ballistic vest that dude was wearing. Yeah, nessment, Yeah, he took a point blank shot with that. You remember, are you have to go back through your videos and stuff because we did shoot a vest here. Yeah, we shot the armor for the people it's called yeah hut their patch right over here, and yeah that. It did a very good job. I mean, it did great, But I'm there's still kinetic energy of the sure, you know what I mean. That's what's crazy about it. Yeah, because when we put the vest on the water jug and it didn't penetrate the vest, but it broke the water drug. Yeah, exactly, So think about your sternum. You're right, you know. Yeah, my man was returning fire, it says the Secret Service officer draws his weapon and fires multiple times five to eight during the chaos. I don't know how they don't know. I guess they just haven't reported it. Alan falls to the ground. There you go. He suffers only minor injuries, is not struck by gunfire. Some accounts describe him being tackled subdued by officers. He's immediately arrested on the steam while still in possession of the loaded shotgun, handgun and knives. Hmm, yeah, this guy was. He had one thing in mind, suicide by cob and I don't know. Oh uh. Elf support says he thought the officer that got shot was saved by a bulletproof plate. At that range, buckshot wouldn't have spread far. I didn't see muzzle flash from the purp. We gotta see the video again then. Yeah, I thought I didn't see it. I thought, I know, maybe I was wrong. And boy, you would from a shockwave. I mean, there they what is it? Eighteen twenty inch barrow? It's very oh yeah, very. You should watch the slow motion. Your slow motion will tell us. Yeah, the stuff that just doesn't read right compared to what happened. Let's go to the sloe. Well, we don't get the whole picture. There has to be a camera outside that farrior. Oh where, yeah, for sure, where he took off his jacket and but see who's watching the cameras, because yeah, I would be focused on any camera around that ballroom. Oh yeah, not just one guy focused. I would have the Washington police officer, the guy that runs the camera, the secret service guy, all those cameras. We're getting one view here. All right, let's see here he comes. Now it's reported or we think that this guy with the black hair standing closest to the camera is the one that gets shot, right because right see he's already got his and he looks in here. Yeah, okay, let's see if the guy goes back any Oh, he looks like he did double over there. Oh he did, it doesn't and that. It's his first shot right. The second they shoot, he shoots almost at the same time. Is this guy if he is shooting see one right there right there, he feels the It looks like he feels the impact. Unless Yea'll take that. Yeah, I'll take me one of them. If he got shot that close, that's you know, that's a huge marketing opportunity. What do you think that is? We were the manufacturers of the best that protected that. Yeah, oh my goshtakes. Yeah, I mean that is that that's barely three meters. No, I don't think it's three meters. Like I said, you can spit on him. Well, back in the day, I could have pissed on him anymore. Probably six seven feet at best. Yeah, I'd say about six feet. The hunter says that all this guy is right there with. His hand on the box. Yeah, he's probably around six something. And you could lay it and it'd be about as tall as he is. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. Hunter says. Maybe he got hit with a ball. Yeah, like Buckshot has more than one, he could have been hit with only one of the balls maybe. Well, uh, they they found one in his vest. Uh so maybe that's what it was. Maybe the other one's hit and fell out. But they did find one that was lodged in the vest. Hmmm, and nobody got hit with any other that's amazing. He's pretty close, so I guess that makes it. The ward won't even travel that far. Yeah, that's what you're right. Yeah, they're right. Shot boxes at that distance to see what the pattern was gonna go like, and the wad hits the box. Yeah, yeah that makes sense. Oh, well that's it. Then he's the guy. Yeah, he gets hit with a single ball or something. It pushes him back a little. You can see that this dude starts ducking rounds of thirty eight or whatever. This guy's probably got a nine million like he's in the matrix. That one goes right over his shoulder. These people don't duck, which is amazing to me. There's two three shots fired. They're still standing against the wall like targets. Well, I bet you believe he didn't shoot his buddy here. I'm amazed that he didn't shoot that guy. I feel like I would have shot that guy by accident. Well yeah, I mean, if you're doing that. But there there again, stationary, there has to be you stay here, You stay here. That way, you're not shooting each other, do you understand. Then the roving patrols, they're the ones that are out there. Like the dog guy, you need to have both. And no, sure, yeah, yeah, And I wonder what this guy's doing with his dog here. He must just be holding on to him back there. I guess at that point they figured, you hear a gun, What am I gonna let the dog go for? They're shooting. Well, but if if it's a dog that's trained to sniff, they're usually not a trained to attack. Yeah, and then they hear that that might mess him up too. That's loud. Yeah, I used to hear. I mean if if we're wondering why he didn't lease the dog, a K nine that a police officer has is trained to do. You know, like they have a suspect in the building, Well they can let that dog go in the building and he's trained to sniff the guy out and latch onto. A bomb niffing dog or a dog that you know for gunpowder is not trained to do that. It's trained when they. Sniff something, you know, sit down or ark or do something alert on on whatever he's sniffing. So PBN family that like, oh, Hunter said he had to buy his own gear. The guy who took the twelve that shit was a government issued Yeah that's funny. Hey, you'd have been dead, right man. So you know what few things right in these I think it was it's either Sarah or Jordan or both who have always talked about having your kids take off away from you if you're ever in an active shooter situation and to know, you know, head off in that direction towards the cover if I'm pulling my gun out type of thing, right, And this is exactly why. Yeah, you put yourself between the shooter and your kids. Yeah. Well, actually, what she always talked about, and what I think is even better than that, is to send them opposite, the opposite the direction of the incident entirely, so like left or right of what's happening. Yeah, you know, towards the nearest cover. Because this is just one of those situations where one of the most insane things is that no one else got shot here. I can't believe it. Yeah, because I mean, you're lining up on this dude. Here's another thing Dave Jones mentioned PT. Now, I don't want to pick on this guy. I'm not picking on him. I'm just telling you the importance of PT. And I'm telling you you know what I see with my own eyes, this dude, there's no way this guy's going to the gym and squatting. Ever, this guy with the dress shoes on here, they can't get his gun out that almost falls over. Yeah, his legs are crazy tiny. He looks very thin. Yeah. I don't know if that matters as much to the Secret Service or not, but or maybe it could be the camera height that makes him look skinny. I don't know. The other thing, though, is the holstering of the web. I mean we've done yeah, I don't know how many dry fire drills in the routines over how many months. Yeah, and I know this guy's panicking, but look, it might be you panicking one day. And I just watch him. If you watch the video where Reagan got shot, the Secret Service and that Dene are pulling oozies out faster than this guy can pull a hand guy out. Yeah, I want to watch him full speed, try to wrestle this gun out. This guy with his skinny legs. I just want to see he might be tall, skinny guy. He looks pretty tall. Actually, I want to see him at real speed because the slow speed kind of you know, it's doesn't do anybody justice. He's alert, though, I mean he's paying it somewhat pin he's not really paying that good attention. Actually, here comes a guy he's not even looking. That seems like a long time. I think I could get my gun out a lot quicker than that. I don't even train that much. He actually even turned his body before his. Gun was Yeah. Yeah, that's weird. What's the point thing I. Would be turning my I would be drawing and turning. But you know that we're not hearing the gunshots, so he's kind of docking from the gunshots. That's true. Yeah, there's no audio on this video. I don't know why. Yeah, there's people falling down the stairs. They're falling. They fell several times trying to get away. They couldn't believe anything happened. I guess, hey, elf, support, how you doing man? Go to Prepperbroadcasting dot com. Sir, we do four shows every day of the week. Okay, Monday nights we sometimes do a Monday well most Monday nights we actually do a show, but most of our shows are during the day in the early morning. We put out a show. Sorry, the guy at Chad asked, He said, can I get a schedule the shows on the network, But go to prepper broadcasting dot com and you could subscribe to the podcast there and then you'll get alerted to every show that comes on. Uh yeah, okay, just just wanted to clear that up. You will definitely find your cup of tea here at Prepper Broadcasting. Well, let's do that real quick, actually, Dave Jones, because you're right on the money. I just want to like what we do now, this year twenty twenty six. It's worth showing because it's so crazy. And today I actually didn't even put Church and State up. Oh I didn't know. Ur stays so good? Right, you love it? I know you gotta love it. Property tax Rebellion. So this is Prepperbroadcasting dot com. Can everybody see this? Let me check yep, yeah, this is Prepperbroadcasting dot com. This is the de facto podcast website. And as you can see, we have our medical Mondays every Monday, Matter of facts. Every Monday, Matter of Fact is great. I loved Andrew. I believe man Andrew is the man. But Phil really found his co host in uh oh yeah, in the New Guy. He just yeah, yeah, this is crap. I meant that about the Daily Audio. Because I know I saw that on Sunday and I was listening to it. I was like, oh god, what did he find? What is it? I said, what do I call this? Whoa? It was crap? Really? I deleted the first one too. Yeah. This show on the Digital i D last week was phenomenal. And then they did a two parter on the Great Reset. Herbal Medicines for Preppers every week is insane. I got a great Thank you from Dave Jones. That was very heartwarming. Man. Patriot Power Hour is great every week. Yeah. They talk about a duo there, yeah, those two, Yeah, that's a team. They fit together like a hand in a glove. Well, they're a well oiled machine now man, I mean that's just what they are, you know, They're a well oiled machine changing earth audio drama. Can't get it anywhere else. It's gonna be on TV. You might as well listen to it now and be like, oh, I used to listen to that, but it was just an audio drama because yeah, it's going to be on TV and they might change things. You never know. She changed things from the books to the draw audio drama. Yeah. Yeah, the Prepper food storage show. That was a good one. Throwback Thursday, we did Dave Jones on the Established Position, Improve Upon a daily awesome show. We run The Shadow late night and this amazing show here that I never knew existed, which is I was a Communist Communist for the FBI. True True Accounts of undercover FBI agent that infiltrated the Communist Party back in the fifties. Yeah, it's an amazing show. Peace report for the Times it's it's really is amazing because if you haven't heard, we're experiencing a communist revolution in the United States currently, if you haven't noticed. So, yeah, we do a Women's Wednesday every Wednesday. That show was awesome. Sarah Hathaway put together the Ladies of Prepper Camp round Table. Great show. That was a great show. I didn't do my show last week. Actually, Tactical Tuesday was amazing. Yeah, that gorilla fighter fieldcraft was awesome. Yeah, I mean it's yeah, it is what it is. Okay, tell the world, It's all I can tell you. If you really care about the country. There's a lot of people out there who are like, really patriotic, really care about the nation. You need to tell people about BBN. Okay, because who you are right now compared to who you'll be after a year listening to us. If even if you do one percent of the stuff you're gonna be, you're gonna be better than them guys standing there protecting the president. I think at least some of them. You know, I can guarantee you that because. Hey, now go over the the actual exercises. That yeah, we could do that. Let me bring that. Up because uh, you know, we always end up over here at the range. And the first time you guys came out, man, Larry pulled out everything. Oh you thought we got the shooting that we've done together. Yeah, our exercises, oh you know as the forest exercises. And yeah, that's true. Too, that's true too. Everybody should take advantage of those. I mean, look, you could do you could do exactly what we did last year starting today, which was rational ruin and we started in May and ration and ruin man will change your whole mentality on survival food. Last year we did thirty days the whole month of May. We ate three days out of the week. We did MRIs one week, we did Mountainhouse Foods. One week we did and then we did two weeks. No, we did it Jonstead week, which was the best week, and then we did in other words, the Jones. That week was Maria's freeze dried stews and freeze dried eggs, and it was it had your body. We did it like week four or three, I camera, I think it was last week. It was the last week. We saved the best for the last week. Yeah, and it felt like the body was like like hungry for real food. Because we also did aunt not a mountain house. What is it be prip No, I can't think of the name ready hour. We did a ready hour week. Yeah, and I'm telling you the best the best week was the freaking outside of Dave Jones' food, obviously was the Mountain House. Like everything else was kind of a nightmare. But the rest of the week, so you ate three days of the week, you have rest of the week. It was up to you to feast on the forgeable, fishable, huntable foods that you could acquire. And uh, you know it, really I did. I did. My dog dispatched a raccoon for me, and I broke him down, skin in them and man, he was good. The only problem with the raccoon, man, was the uh, the residual smell, you know what I mean, because they have this like this pheromone and it it was really on me a while. It was on my hands for a while. It was making me sick, like nauseous. Yeah. And but yet what you could so you learn a bunch of things, right, You learn like do I like this survival food or not? Which I found out I don't really like it even when I'm starving. And then you figure out how how good of a hunting forging fisherman am I? And it just so happened that we had the craziest spring. You remember the spring? Oh yeah, you had freezing temperatures in June. Yep or it was like the last day of May. I think froze and it was rain and it was hell. It was terrible. But you learn so much on those things we've done. What was the first one? What was the first one they did the Azure Highland. Yeah, they they hike. There's a there's a first. Did you ever suck water out of a survival straw? That's a good one because Ben found out that that's no picnic. Ben left his canteen on the trail the very first stop they made, and he didn't have any water for the rest of the trip, and he was taking his life straw and. Sucking it out of the ditch. Yeah, he said, not a lot of water spots on that Appalachian trail. That was a summer too, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did that summer. This year, we did the Appalachian Operation, me and him. Remember, I don't remember if that was June or July or sometent I think it was it was before Prepper camp. Oh yeah, we did twelve miles on the Appalachian Trail in the dark overnight. Yeah, and we I don't know how he did it without a canteen. I have no idea. He must have been so dehydrated. Yeah, it must have been. It's so phenomenal. By the time I got here, even his pants were so he was soaked all the way down. To his socks. Just uhh uh oh. Elf Support says it looks like there was an assassination attempt on JD Vance outside the White House. Damn, yep, here we go. Man allegedly opens fire on secret Service near White House as child injured in chaos. Oh my god, who are these people? Please don't tell me it's another guy that gets to walk away free and gets the padded room situation. Upon making contact, that individual fled briefly on foot, withdrew a firearm and fired in the direction of our agents and officers. Quinn said they returned fire and engaged man. When asked if the suspect was targeting President Trump in the light of the recent attack, correspond Dinner, Quinn said he would not speculate. I can't say I'm not going to guess on that. I could tell you that every time we're But if you're shooting at the Secret Service, I mean, what are you doing? Yeah? What do you mean? Did he or did he not target the break? He didn't show up me? Like, I don't like that guy that works with the Secret sorum shoot his ass? Yeah? Yeah, they got to make any example, Dave Jones. I know it's not, you know, a friendly thing to say or do, but if you're gonna have a rash of assassination attempt, somebody's got to be made an example of because it's just gonna keep happening. They're gonna get him. It's gonna happen if someone's gonna kill him, you know. And I think he don't want to be a martyr. Every one of them wants to die for the cause. Well, it's like they're left wing liberal, miserable people who ruin their life because they live lies, you know what I mean, That's what it is. Well, thank you for that elf support. I guess more to come on that. We'll figure out. If God, I hope they shot somebody. That's so horrible to say out loud, but like feel really bad, like really nervous. If they they wanted help him out. Help yeah, right, the best thing for him probably, Uh yeah. Like I said, I think it'll just it'll keep right on going if they don't do something about it. And I think somebody will get them. I do. I don't think Hunter calls itself delete by cop. Yeah, yeah, I mean, geez, you gotta yeah, you gotta set up the meeting with Jesus. I'm the guy that can arrange it. There you go. Yeah, I mean that's what you're trained for, right, that's what you're hired for. Yeah, unfortunately, I mean, but that's the job, you know. I don't bitch and be like, oh, I don't want to say these words on the air today, you know what I mean. I don't want to write about this. You're right, or you do it as we do. But uh yeah. So the the Azure Highland was great. The Apple and operation that was phenomenal. The best was, of course, got them get out. That was the best exercise I. Got them get out. Now that one that one. Where you guys actually traversed urban terrain to go to a pre arranged orb predetermined. Not a rain determined. Yeah, yeah, place where you were going to spend the night. And there were different caches that were stashed in this urban terrain whole thing. Yeah, you collected them all up. You were able to make a camp out of what you collected. Yeah. And the and the key to that exercise, if anybody wants to try it outside of the cache, is what you wound up having was just a long drawn out, bugout hike, you know what I mean, which was still fine, It was still good. Oh. You know what we forgot about and I always forget about it, and it is one of the most crucial parts was the putting together of our gear and outfits. We started that whole thing at the thrift store and we had twenty dollars to spend on. We had no coats. It was like Fember's coming that night. Yeah, it was terrible. February and you were both you were all armed with twenty five bucks. That's what you went in just with the you know pants. I had a T shirt and a long sleeve undershirt. There you go, pants, boots, and you had to take that twenty five dollars and get what you think you could use for that night. Yeah. Yeah, and I still have that. I'll never get rid of that George Mason had I bought there because it's such a great memory, man. But yeah, that but but what made it on the traversal part. Also, by the way, that was the night that I got to walk by a data center for the first time. Yeah, and that was an eerie feeling. And now I know why it was so eerie. But uh, we getting to those cash locations changed the game because it added to the sort of like like I didn't think about police at all until I got to that first cash location, and then I started thinking, oh shit, if I'm playing around inside of his box and some guy because I didn't know what's in the box, I could open it up. There could be you know, five rounds of nine millimeters sitting in there. And actually, you did pack us a bullet, you packedice or something, what was it. I put a bullet in each one of you guys's cases, and if you knew how to do it, you could pull the bullet out. That's how we started gunpowder and use the primer to start a fire. Yeah, we did. We Actually, what we did we combined we come I'm pretty sure we combined the brilloh nine volt and the gunpowder. Oh because I was trying to go just brillo, but everybody was freezing and I wasn't having luck. So then I said, you know what, just dump the gunpowder out on the thing. And then I used the spark from the brillo, and you know, we were good from then on. But yeah, that was amazing that you learned so much about so much. It was unbelievable. You know, you learn so much about what you could carry and can't carry, you know, from like a scavenge standpoint, and what's valuable and not valuable for the night, you know, versus Because there were things in the boxes I look at and I would go like, if this were a long term thing, I'd definitely take it. Yeah, although I did. One of the long term things I did wind up taking was all that paracord o pack. One of the boxes would like one hundred yards of white paracord literally, And I was like, I'm keeping this just I mean, just because you don't have to worry about it, just because whatever we cordage up later, I know I'm gonna have enough. But yeah, you guys did a great job man at positioning those things, at filling those things. I mean, it was yeah, yeah, and then it was marked. Uh the locations were like marked on a map and you had to find. Oh that's right. Yeah, we didn't even were Yeah, you're right. It was a great exercise. I mean, that's an exercise to be honest with you, that we could probably just get rich off of. Like we could take everyday people and put them through that, and they'd pay us to do that. Oh yeah, I know they would be the second part of that was we were supposed to come here and shoot the Dan that ankle and end up getting surgery. Yeah, so that's right. We shoot stuff for the next day planned, but we didn't really sleep. Dan slept a little, he tapped, He tapped deep into that SF background. That didn't slept. But Ben and I, man, we were just nursing that fire. That fire would have went out, it wouldn't have been good because it was it was probably like eighteen degrees. When Dave Jones showed up the next morning. It was I'll tell you it was cold, and I said, oh, man, if they did not get a fire started, they were freezing their cohone is off. Yeah, I mean we would have had to been we would have had to been severely injured. All of us. The only way we would have been able to start a fire with all the stuff he gave us, you know. Well yeah yeah, and then I pull up there and it looked like a homeless can. Yeah yeah, well what we what we wound up? What it was the temperature, that's another thing though, that's a really good lesson, right it was. The idea was like we'd been cold for about eight hours. Yeah, and we could have probably been like, you know, let's take our time, let's put together a nice shelter. It was get some get some wind, break up, and get a fire going, a s a p and then and then we'll can you know, worry about whatever else. And that's exactly how it went down. But to your point, yeah, I'm sure you expected probably like uh, you know, a ridge line and roof, you know, when you showed up and all that was like let's just get something that will hold our heat in, let's get in close, let's get. I think Ben had socks on his hands. City really oh he had like yeah he did. He had some kind of weird like yeah, they were like really yeah, you're right, yeah, it was. It was it was mad amazing. Yeah, those and and like I said, you guys can do that stuff, you know what I mean, any anybody can do those things. You might need a handful of people to do Gotham get Out. We really should run some people on Gotham get Out. They would have a ball man, you know, because that is that's an awesome exercise. But all that stuff is invaluable, folks. And and I don't think yet any secret service is doing those kinds of thing. No, And it's in the archive, and yeah, we've got actually if you search omnibus, just search the word omnibus at Prepperbroadcasting dot com and you'll get a bug Out. I think it's the Bugout Omnibus. And I took all the Gotham get Out and played it in between episodes of different Bugout podcasts, and it's it's pretty much the whole shebang. But I need to put the whole shebang together too in order because it's great. It was just it was a great time. Yeah, there's so much. There's so much, And you know, what's important, I think is for everybody to understand, like the routines that we do, the real live training stuff that we've done together, this stuff doesn't eat away our life. Like, it's not like we're like, you know, I don't got no time because of all this prepping. You know, maybe you because you guys operate a massive homestead, you know what I mean. But yeah, but you know, at any given time, fifty percent of what's on our plate we raised or killed or you know, groove. You know, I'm having a hard time getting gro or gas points at the grocery store because my my grocery. Bill is like, yeah, I love it. Man. Hey, it's the way I'm telling you, It is the way that I wish I could sit down. What I would love to do is sit down some of these people, like the guy who decided his best next move is to go shoot the Secret Service at the White House, and sit these people down and tell them, Look, if you really want to be rebellious, like if you really want to make a difference, self reliance and independence is how you stick it to everybody. You know that is the goal and should be the goal. And you know that sticks it to everybody because otherwise you're you're going to become a suicidal cog in the system. Things are only going to getier. Yeah, your your life will never get better until you make it better. That's it. That is, can't depend on someone else to make it better. Game government, so losing game, right? Ask everybody on government assistance? You know you really want to ask? Is that the poor seniors in the country. Yeah, you want to depend on somebody to make your life better? Ask them how things are going with Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid. It's crazy, but I think that's about it. Dave Jones, what do you say we did an hour and ten? Yeah, I think we hammered him enough. But I mean there's just so many different things, just so many different things. Not just to be able to return fire, that's one thing. One thing, yeah, yeah, yeah, preparation, positioning of like you said, obstacles and even I mean I don't know any I know very very little about formation, but I could tell you staring into that room, that looked like nobody was thinking about formation before, during, or even after. We were not They were not placed in position. Right, you know, they were kind of chatting it up a little bit. Yeah, taking everything down. You know, they were thinking mission completing. That guy was thinking mission on. You know. That's that That's the only unanswered question. And if I could have coal here I'd ask him that question. I'd say, did you know when and how did you know when the security checkpoint was breaking down? Unless he because he was in the back there, unless he was wild. But if you've got a guy in a trench coat wandering around back behind the security checkpoint like something's way wrong, there's like you said, there's a roaming guy back there, who's going, what the hell? Yeah, what are you doing, Bud? And there's surveillance on the stairwell because who's who's Who's that guy going up and down the stairwell so many times? Because he's his room was pretty far away from the ballroom, and he used this stairwell to go up and down. He didn't use the elevators, and that's odd. I'm trying to get his StairMaster in. I don't know my ultimate fear, Dave, And you know, I hope this doesn't ever come uncovered, but it's it's just the way my brain works. My ultimate fear is that we have a you know, a mole, like someone feeding not not information that is completely deadly, but little tidbits because they don't like Trump to begin with, you know, like we're breaking down security at eight forty. Okay, we'll be breaking it down. You know, people are gonna be busy. There's gonna be guys who are typically armed on the ground putting together taking apart the metal detectors. Yeah, because otherwise, because otherwise that's lucky. That's as lucky as a man could get without a little bit of insider info. So yeah, I don't know, but we could go on and on PBN. Family, heed the call, you know what I mean. Pay attention to what we said tonight, because you things that are set on PBN have a habit of showing up later in the future. You might find that that when you played of oh that yeah, easy, dude, I didn't even remember that one. I remembered the show, but I did not the time. It was like two months away from COVID and we're talking about viruses. And vaccines and face masks. It was literally November twenty nineteen. You guys should go back and listen to you won't believe it, two months before COVID. I listened to it, and I remember doing the show. But I remember as soon as you started telling the story about your daughter. I remember the show. I was like, oh, there you go. I remember this damn show. But the proximity to the yeah, to the event. This is what I mean, Like I don't know, I don't know how to say it any clear, like yeah this share spread the word yep, because you'll hear it. You'll hear the echoes before long. Dave Jones, thank you so much for your time, man, I know it's getting late. I appreciate you. Azz usual, it's always a blast. Stay here again, family, more to come tomorrow, Buckle up, get some care, see you guys. That's all. Excellent work day.