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[00:08:16] Welcome back. Let's get our guests on the air here with this Ben Janelle. Do we
[00:08:22] still have you guys over there in the world of self-reliance event planning? How did that start? Well, for me, I got started when I married my wife Janelle. I call her my pioneer woman, and she next neighbor had. 80 acres. He was an airline pilot. And he was retired. And I think he thought he was still like the captain of the
[00:11:02] mountain or whatever.
[00:11:03] And he didn't like that.
[00:11:05] We were living in 14 foot tiny home. And now we have a mansion which creek. It just had everything that that I was looking for. And that's a blessing right there. So you guys go from from finding the perfect piece of land to
[00:13:41] to sort of working it from scratch into what you know, when you learn how to develop a property and kind of how to live off-grid, how to live a minimal life, a lot of people are wanting to do that. I travel for a living. I used to be a perfusionist.
[00:15:03] I operated the heart lung machine during heart surgery. You know, it's a higher level of you know when we when we try to go Work through like a in this area force fires if force fires come and devastate while you're surviving You know just getting by well, how do you get to the point where not only when? You know things go to a hell in a handbag at basket that you're not just survived, but you actually thrive through it
[00:16:23] Yeah, I mean if you ask me things are kind of hell in the hand basket already
[00:17:21] when I'd be traveling on the road, the husband would say, I would love to do that,
[00:17:24] but my wife would never go for it or vice versa.
[00:17:29] And I think people have that dream,
[00:17:32] but they also don't really know some of the difficulties,
[00:17:38] some of the pitfalls,
[00:17:39] some of the things you have to get through
[00:17:42] to get to the point where you can live out
[00:17:45] in the middle of nowhere and be self-sufficient lifestyle anymore. If you're, I mean, I don't live on big land like that. And then we do a lot of things self sufficiently. So there had people that literally were on their way or even here and so we felt really bad about that and we's hands because there were so many people that seemed to be interested in how to do this. And we had been doing it for a number of years already, that that's when we had our first fair three years ago. So this year's fair, May 26 and 27, this will be our a community. And I remember one guy after the first fair, he was so excited, he came and he goes, you know, I've lived in this area for five or six years. And he goes, this is the first time I've ever felt a sense of community. And so when I heard that, Janelle and I both knew that we were onto something.
[00:23:01] And, you know, obviously we had talked about the pandemic
[00:23:06] and some of the pandemic response and so on and so forth. COVID, we probably treated over 300 people. Wow. 300 people. At your place or you went to them? We went to them. Yeah, we drove around and went to them. We also had doctors call like in the old days. We had people calling from Texas, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Ohio.
[00:24:22] Just by word of mouth.
[00:24:23] By word of mouth.
[00:24:24] We had no idea. with a lot of comorbidities. And yeah, I've remecked in works. It did the deal, huh? Just too cheap to actually quote unquote work work. Yeah, you know, we had a source over in India and we were able to treat people for COVID for about $15. Yeah, oh, I believe it.
[00:25:40] I believe it.
[00:25:41] That's why we weren't allowed to use it.
[00:25:44] But I don't wanna, I don't wanna, I don't know. Where do you guys do it now? Are you allowed to disclose the location? Is it still at your place or? Yeah, it's at our place We have it on our property we have We get it we rent a big main tent and then we have three or four smaller breakout tents 20 20 by 20 breakout tents and
[00:27:01] We have you know we have demonstrations
[00:27:05] of different sorts and
[00:28:07] We've got random shelters all over our property where we've done that. I love it.
[00:28:09] Mushroom hunting.
[00:28:10] And it was really fun because we were looking for morels and looked for about two hours and didn't know me from Adam and I said I'd love to go out and hunt some Morels on a fall. Might have been a ladder part of the fall. Wasn't that cold out? But I remember they were chasing each other up this really steep hill. I have two boys and they were chasing each other up this really steepness and how to live a simpler life and situational awareness. Situational awareness. We need to teach our kids that and pass that information down. Oh, yeah. It only goes one way. I mean, that is fundamental.
[00:32:21] I always call it the 100-year amnesia, but that's how that happened, right?
[00:32:26] Yeah. me, you know, because I was reared like, I was reared in that weird way that a lot of kids who grew up in the 90s were, which was like, you know, you can be whatever you want to be. And that's enough. So like being a chef and paying your bills was going to do it. It was going to be fine. And I would never run into a problem that would go outside
[00:33:41] of those bounds. I suppose as long as I could small we've tapped into something that is much needed. And it's just cool teaching people about how to live this kind of lifestyle. Yeah. Events like yours are so important because what I've come to realize, I do a little bit of
[00:35:01] consulting work as well.
[00:35:03] And what I've come to realize, the biggest problem be used for a lot of different things. And, you know, what it would add skill or class, you know, to that example. But I think people need that. They need that sort of exposure to a variety of different takes and a variety of different skills on preparedness and self-reliance. And maybe even a variety of different sort of lifestyles in total so they can start
[00:36:25] to parse out, you know, I'd like to have chickens.
[00:36:27] I wouldn't like to our huge composting bin and showed them the compost and picked up a big handful of it and said, smell it. And some people were like, you could tell they were hesitant to smell it.
[00:37:42] I hope it was far along.
[00:37:43] Like, well, that smells good. It's a great solution. It's nothing human or is a thing. It's definitely a thing, you know. I've never personally composted it before. I have chickens in my backyard that are, I think they would get into it. Do you guys have free ranging chickens or you keep them far away
[00:39:00] from that? I don't have enough room to keep it and dig it all up or whatever they you know that kind of thing. But we do have dogs so if we kept it in the yard they probably wouldn't come in the yard. It's very rare they risk it all for a chicken and come in the yard because we have pit bulls so they would they meet
[00:40:22] it up pretty nasty end if they do risk it and Jane from Prepper Camp. She is, Jane is, well, according to Rick anyway, he always tells me about all the amazing concoctions that she comes up with from the milk because they have goats and they have,
[00:41:41] they get like inundated when it comes.
[00:41:44] Ice cream and cheesecake and obviously cheese would like to well what we're doing now is um and it's one of the things that we're gonna feature at this year's fair is is uh uh we're probably 75-80 done of billing a walla peony I don't know if you've heard of that before but if they speak yeah it's an underground greenhouse and um oh okay i've seen them i didn't know that was the name
[00:44:05] do it and there'll be just another level of training that we can give. It had a couple of people that have already told us that they're very excited to hear
[00:44:09] about the Walla Peony.
[00:44:11] Yeah, it's very cool.
[00:44:12] I've seen those for sure.
[00:44:13] I guess you have to grade the ground in such a way that so it doesn't like fill up
[00:44:18] with water when it rains or something like that.
[00:44:20] That was my always my biggest concern was the water.
[00:44:24] Yeah, definitely back east because your groundwater is it has three eighths you can use three eighths or a half-inch polycarbonate We actually in our loft area where our boys before they were younger then, but now they're gone. We actually left that uninsulated in the roof because the wood burning stove was, we were very comfortable down below here, but when they were up there with the heat rising, they kept the window open a year round. I mean, you're all...
[00:47:03] They were roasting up there.
[00:47:04] Yeah, they were roasting. So they kept the window open even be 10 below outside. You know, and I think a lot of it has to do with that, right? It's just the incescent growth of our living space that we are rarely in and Most of that living space we rarely use. I mean I live in a small house and there are rooms that I never go in You know like it's not a big hat. It's not a like a tiny house, but it's a tiny house by most people standards nowadays for sure and
[00:49:24] tell you is that if you're kind of downside and you want to live a simpler lifestyle, you want to live
[00:49:31] in a tiny house, you know, our 16 by 32 foot, that's a large tiny house, but it's still a tiny house compared to most standards is if you haven't used it in a year, get rid of it and donate it or sell
[00:49:39] it or whatever. And as a result of us living a simpler lifestyle, we are totally debt free.
[00:50:45] live in a barn rather than my, you know, $500,000 nightmare house that I have to work my ass off to keep up, you know,
[00:50:49] inside and out and all that kind of stuff. It's tough.
[00:50:54] Something about it. We need an American downsizing for sure.
[00:50:59] We have a little picture we have on our wall and it says if you
[00:51:03] want more, have less. And that you're gonna need to make sure you bring your own water, but with that said, we gave a bunch of water out last year because not everyone came prepared. And, but yeah, and I think that that's what, I think that that's what people like about the pepper camp out there in Saluta, North Carolina.
[00:52:22] You can camp, you spend the weekend.
[00:52:24] I mean, we've got this beautiful place
[00:52:27] where you can hike around. people and we think it's going to even be bigger this year. Oh, it will. I'm sure it will. I'm sure it will. You're in that weird sort of vein that I'm in where, uh, and many preppers and survivalist types are, which is unfortunately, um, we're fortunate when things are unfortunate on the world stage.
[00:53:44] You know what I mean?
[00:53:44] It brings people to this thing, but I don't know, you know, I, I, there may have been,
[00:54:51] Well, yeah, and I think that COVID was such a paradigm shift for us, Heidi, that most of the people that had any sense of common sense realized that something, how are governments
[00:55:02] of the world reacted Consider the Thriveless fair Thriveless org Thriveless with an s.org Go check the website out. I guess the closer you guys get you know a schedule will be up for
[00:56:25] Do you guys have a section here about who's gonna get there and it's people like you getting the word out and I'm greatly appreciated. Thank you so much. I appreciate you guys hanging out with me
[00:57:41] for an hour and talking about it.
[00:57:43] And if you get, once we get into May,
[00:57:46] if you wanna come back on, just reach out