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[00:00:09] Welcome everybody to The Rising Republic. It's your boy, Zell Douglas Hogan. And Ryan Buford. Glad to have you with us on the show today, everyone. It's been crazy, Ryan. What you got going on this week, man? Actually, it's been the last couple weeks. Yeah, it's been crazy. Went over to the west side, got to drive around with a bunch of crazies in Seattle in a snowstorm, Vancouver area. That was a lot of fun. And actually, I just got a new puppy. What'd you get? It's a pit bull and mastiff mix. So it's gonna be a big boy.
[00:00:38] Yeah, Jinx, you'll make a go. We're working on training him up and so far he's doing good, but he's gonna be a presence for sure, which is exactly what I was hoping for. Good deal. Indoor or outdoor? Oh, well, probably a little bit of both. He'll be a guardian dog to a certain extent to keep the coyotes at bay. And then he's definitely gonna be here at the house whenever I'm not, that's for sure. So, but yeah, it's good. I mean, new life, new blood, and finally a dog that can hear. He doesn't eat cats, does he? He wouldn't have to eat cats, does he? No cats, no.
[00:01:08] You don't, he don't, so he doesn't eat cats? I don't know, maybe. Probably not. I got some, I'm just nevermind probably shouldn't be saying talking like that. I'm more concerned about him eating my chickens. The thing is, I've lost a couple of chickens within the last couple of weeks to coyotes. So I need to get them trained up and ready so that he can keep these coyotes at bay and I can get my flock back. Yeah, send him out there to eat the, eat the other, what, what it's called cannibalism. At least kill them. At least kill them.
[00:01:36] If nothing else, just hold them down so I can shoot them. That's, that's what I can ask. Wasn't you I was talking to not long ago about, about Peanut the puppy? There's a dog named Peanut. Oh yeah. And the coyotes and the hunting coyotes and stuff like that. I think we talked about hunting one time on the show and, and uh, yeah, because the groups are always about, oh yeah, don't kill, don't kill coyotes and all this stuff because it's cruel and all. But, uh, it's funny how the tide turns when one of their own gets eaten. It's like, oh yeah. Peanut. Peanut was like a, I don't know what it was. It's some kind of a,
[00:02:03] it was just a little dog, uh, similar to, I don't know, like a Jack Russell kind of a dog and something itty bitty like that. And, uh, well, in comes a coyote and you know, they're usually in packs and grabs, grabs a little peanut and takes off. And, uh, of course they don't just kill them. Generally, generally sometimes they will, they'll kill another dog and just cause it's territorial to them. They don't care if it's fenced or not. They don't know the difference. They'll just come in and kill it, run off with it. If the cat run off with it,
[00:02:28] whatever the case may be. Um, but yeah, they gotta go down because they're like us, right? We're predators. And, uh, if, if we're, if we're competing for food sources, they gotta go. One of us has gotta go. Oh yeah. And it's, I mean, they, they do keep a balance, but, uh, that balance needs to stay away from, from my flock. Right. Because, uh, right now the balance is, I get about an egg or two a day, which is like gold anymore. Uh, so I'm gonna try and keep that,
[00:02:56] that part of my bank account dialed in here on the homestead. How many chickens did the government put down for this, uh, bird flu thing? Oh gosh. I don't know. Probably. I mean, it had to have been tens of thousands, if not hundreds. I mean, it's, it's ridiculous. I think I heard 400,000. Yeah. And I mean, it's just like year after year. I remember in 2020, they were popping off these, uh, these farms, you know, these, uh, poultry farms left and right.
[00:03:25] Nobody was saying anything about it. And then next thing you know, shoot, there's another one going up. Oh, there's another one. They're up in flames left and right all over the country. And, uh, you know, now we're starting to feel some of that. And on top of that, they're dropping the bird flu. So it's like anything when the government says you can't have it, it makes me really start to wonder, well, why the hell not? And what, what's the big deal? You know, why, why is it? And chickens, especially it's, and you start looking into it and it's the cheapest form of protein you can get always has been. And it's been something that
[00:03:54] we've been able to survive on as independent people for eons. Yeah. And chickens, chickens in particular, one of those, one of those animals that are just like goats and cattle that are more practical, right? They, they, they serve more than one purpose because chicken's good for meat. I mean, how many things can you do with an egg by itself? Right. I mean, that's the chef's hat's got what 200 folds in it and each fold represents a different way to prepare an egg. And I mean,
[00:04:21] it's just, it's an unbelievable product. And I think to me, it boggles my mind that people would, wouldn't look closely into why this is such a big deal and why government stepping in saying the bird flu is affecting it, especially, you know, small, um, not hobby farmers, but you know, people like me, I've got only got five or so hens, but I mean, it's not like I'm doing commercial farming and I am very concerned about the potential of a state or federal agency coming down and saying,
[00:04:51] you got to kill your chickens. Well, how much, how many times though in the past has the government come down and try to shut down some, some milk producer, right. That's doing things that has a private business because it's not regulated. They shut it, they shut it down or they, or, or more recently under the Biden administration, agriculture, just farms in general are burning down. You see what I'm saying? And then, so, you know, it's not much of an excuse for the government to say, Oh, bird flu, kill all the
[00:05:16] chickens because it's something that we, the people can, can produce in mass, right? Without, without any form of government regulation, we know that countries like our countries, I wish it was its own country, uh, states like California, for example, that, that tax or, or restrict people from, from collecting rainwater, right. Uh, because they want your, the almighty tax dollar, they'll stop you from doing that because they want to regulate it.
[00:05:41] Yeah. There's a saying that if it can be, uh, if it can be measured, it can be managed. And if it can be managed, it can be taxed. So there, there's kind of a thing where you just, you have, at some point you've got to look into this, like, wait a second, if you have free range chickens on your own property and they cut that off, then you are forced to fall in line and go and rely with what, yeah, go with and be reliant on whatever system exists where it played the place
[00:06:10] that product. And frankly, eggs is like the simplest thing. And people are, are just now starting to realize that now that they're saying that, wait a second, they're not on the shelf. So they're too expensive or whatever. But I mean, we, I've been paying, I don't know about you, but I haven't paying attention to it for the last five years. And, uh, it's, I mean, I'm glad that I learned how to grow my own chickens and raise my own flock up to this point, you know, just, just so people would know. I mean, this is a supply and demand thing, correct? I mean, you, you raise chickens. I don't,
[00:06:39] when you, when you kill 400,000 egg producing chickens that are going out to the public, to the stores to purchase eggs, there's fewer of them. And when there's fewer of them, the price goes up. Is that how it works? Oh, absolutely. And you're talking 400,000 per day, as far as how many legs those hens will lay. Right. So as time goes on, I mean, it takes
[00:07:03] about four months from chick to a layer. So, and maybe even longer depending on where it is or what kind of layer it is. So this isn't, I mean, it's short term if all the chicks are there to replace them, but it kind of makes me wonder what these chicks are that are coming in. You know, do we have some weird vaccine schedule for these new chicks? And is it going to be something that, you know, are you even going to want those eggs? Is this like some sort of backdoor vaccine that, you know,
[00:07:30] people are going to wind up eating and not realizing. Help me clarify something though, because do chickens just hens lay eggs, they can lay eggs without a rooster, correct? They just can't. Oh yeah. They just, the eggs just don't turn. The eggs aren't fertilized unless there's a rooster. So you have to have, like you, if you have, say you have a dozen, let's make it easy. Say you have 10 hens, one rooster, all the roughly one egg a day, you would expect to be fertilized.
[00:07:59] You know, maybe more, two or three, if you're, you know, if you got a busy rooster kind of thing, but you still have to have a way to incubate those eggs. And if you're using your own hens, then that takes time. So from egg to chicken, as in baby chick, you're looking at about four weeks, six weeks sometimes. And then beyond that, you're looking at four to six months for an actual layer.
[00:08:24] So you've got about a six month to eight month timeframe from conception to production. So you're not really, and without a rooster, it ain't happening unless you're artificially inseminating these eggs somehow. It's not really insemination. It's different. That's kind of the way they do it. We could be well into Trump's second year before we start seeing the price of eggs go down then. Oh, absolutely. I mean, people don't realize this, this is just the beginning and it's going to get
[00:08:50] quite a bit worse. I'm more concerned about getting chicks because I have a feeling that large farmers who have contracts are going to be able to buy up other chicks and from reputable breeders. And then those breeders are going to run out. And so secondary and tertiary breeders are going to wind up having to fill in. Well, usually when you go to your farm and home store, that's where you get your chicks. Well, this year we might be okay getting chicks next year
[00:09:18] might be a different story. So personally, um, I usually figure three chickens a year. I'm going to lose from predation or, you know, just death in general. Chickens don't last very long. So three a year tends to keep me in enough chickens with a flock of five to eight hens or keep, keep me in eggs where I never have to go buy eggs basically. And the cost of food, 20 bucks a month, uh, for
[00:09:48] what's essentially anywhere from two to five eggs a day. Uh, that's, that's significant and it's getting more significant as time goes on. So for me, I'm, I'm paying attention to roosters that are available on Craigslist and layer hens that people are getting rid of and baby chicks, especially. So it's, it's going to be an interesting 12 months for sure. Yeah. And cause there's people out there that's going to be, you know, I've already seen it. People complaining that the price of eggs
[00:10:15] haven't gone, gone back down yet. You know, expecting that because Trump is president that the, somehow that it was, you know, that Trump could come in and increase the egg development, right. Which would drive the price of eggs. I don't think they understand the whole process and what this bird flu and the killing of the chickens, all that has to do with, with the eggs in the, in the stores are not gonna be on the shelves. And if they are, they're going to be few. And, and then if there are a few, they're going to be high in price. Right. And it's kind of like, at some point you got to wonder if that is fabricated. Like,
[00:10:44] is it a price gouging type setup? Because you know, the store only gets say a hundred dozen eggs and you, they might not know when they're going to get eggs again. So instead of selling them for a dollar or $2 a dozen, they're going to sell them for seven, eight, nine, $10 a dozen. Well, I had no doubt that it's price gouging because if you're normal, if let's say that you're Kroger, okay. And Kroger's used to having 500 dozen eggs and this is how much money they
[00:11:10] expect for 500 dozen eggs. But now they're only getting a hundred dozen eggs to make that bank again, the same amount they got for the 500 dozen eggs. They got to raise the price on the 100 dozen eggs to make that equal out. That's, that's how capitalism works. They're expecting this much income from the sale of these, these products. But when they're suddenly not there because of the supply and demand situation, the price has to go up so that they, they come out, they have the employees to pay. That's the thing. You know, everybody, it's very complicated situation,
[00:11:39] but if Kroger is paying 50 employees that are working at their store X amount of dollars, because this is what they're expecting from these sales. And all of a sudden those products are not coming in. They're not making the money. They can't pay. Therefore, if they keep, if they lower the price of eggs, for example, they, they won't have the income to pay their employees. So they got to raise the price to keep things. That's just how it is. That's, that's basic capitalism 101. Yeah. I mean, it, I, it doesn't surprise me at all. In fact,
[00:12:07] what the only thing that does surprise me is it didn't happen sooner. Um, I was really expecting this to happen in 2022, 2023. So I think there were probably, I can't say, but I have a feeling that some of these things were subsidized and farmers were allowed to sell their eggs cheaper to keep them on the market. So that as soon as the, the change of the guard, so to speak happened, that if Biden would
[00:12:32] have stayed in office or his, his entourage, whoever was going to be after him stayed, then those farmers would have been able to retain that supplementary income or, you know, whatever to offset the costs that they have for the chickens since it didn't. And since we're starting to see a lot of these federal programs drying up and, you know, some of this money's realized, you know, we're realizing this money's being misspent now, all of a sudden I have a feeling that, you know,
[00:12:59] these farmers aren't getting their subsidies. They have to recover their costs on. And as a result of, you know, whatever left wing extremisms happening on this bird flu scene, um, the, the egg production is not going to be there and it's not going to be there for another, at least six months to a year to where we start seeing any kind of prices drop. So honestly, there's a kind of a whole perfect
[00:13:25] storm and it's almost too perfect. It seems orchestrated in my opinion. And it could be because there's been a lot of stuff that has been, man, with Trump going in office because he's released and I talked about it here. Um, on the last show, I think I, I went, the one I ran solo on with the, uh, Northwoods project, Northwoods. Uh, that's some crazy stuff, uh, that I talked
[00:13:48] about with how, uh, back when JFK was around, no, I'm sorry. Yeah. Back in the 1960s, um, the United States, when we were at cold war with Russia and, and Cuba was become, became communistic, the United States was, was talking about, and this is when I got, I had documentation I talked about where the operation Northwoods, um, produced signatures, all the joints of chiefs, chiefs of staff produced signatures, um, that they were willing to commit atrocities on the United States
[00:14:18] population and blame it on Cuba to help incite a war with them because they were now communist and they needed a reason to do it. And so say the bombing of a United States ship or say the bombing of, you know, uh, us cities, this was the plan. And this was all, I guess JFK when he got in office was, was going to this part of the JFK stuff that was released, that was declassified by Trump. All this stuff is in there and project Northwoods or operation Northwoods, whichever it's called
[00:14:46] was actually released back in 1962, declassified back in 1962. I had never even heard of it until the JFK files were declassified. And I got to looking into that a little bit. I'm like, Oh my God, if the, if the, if the United States government is, is, is capable of committing atrocities in the name of furthering their own, their own agenda, right. Then, then what's to stop them from doing anything, keeping anything secret from us, such as, you know, orchestrating, uh, this egg thing. So they control synthetic eggs. You know, if you can start controlling
[00:15:14] something and making things that like beef has already been approved by the U S or whatever it is USDA, thank you. Yes. Uh, it's been, it's been approved. Synthetic meat has been approved for sale to the United, to the people, to send to the United States to consume and sell the marketplace. And once they start doing that, once, once they started, it could be regulated by the, by the government. And once they start regulating that kind of food, it's regulated by the government, then they can control anything that goes into it. We've already heard about Gates talking about
[00:15:42] putting vaccines in, in meats and giving it to us that way. You know, these are things he's not probably not going to talk about it now. Uh, but it's out there. Yeah. I think what we're probably going to see is some in the next year or two, we're probably going to see some form of egg product that comes out in the carton or some kind of, uh, maybe you can get egg whites, egg yolks, powdered eggs, or something like that. And they're going to call it that, but I don't think it's
[00:16:11] really going to be that it's going to be a protein substitute like material. And it's going to be made probably from some sort of plant or synthetically manufactured thing. And the only way to really sell that and make it feasible is to make it slightly cheaper than normal eggs. Right. And so it'll probably hit the market with, you know, any one dozen egg equivalent, uh, that's maybe 20 or 30%
[00:16:40] less. And it's going to be sold as something beneficial with, Oh, you know, like, like, uh, vitamin D milk. Yeah, exactly. So I think, I think we're probably going to see something like that. And it's a little scary. I don't know what other countries are experiencing, but I mean, in some locations, chickens run wild. I mean, Hawaii and, and tropical areas and region Mexico, some of these places, they just there, they exist and they roam around restaurants and wherever else
[00:17:06] wild chicken. Oh yeah. Wild chickens, roosters, they just, they live on the wild. They're, they're capable of surviving on their own. Uh, and they overproduce because they get killed off so frequently, but, and it's kind of one of those things where if we go away from a natural source of food, we're really putting ourselves at, at an unknown risk of, you know, how, what is this going
[00:17:31] to do to our bodies and our, our mental state years down the road? You know, we're supplementing estrogen and testosterone and all these other things. I mean, it's just like eating a fake plant, you know, it just doesn't, it doesn't cut it. It's not the same thing. Lab grown is not the same thing. No, let's take an early quick break because I want, when we come back, I want to talk about because USAID, I mean, Doge has been killing it. They've been uncovering a lot of stuff.
[00:17:58] It's just mind boggling to me. And the left, when I say the left, I mean the Democrats in Congress seem oblivious. Like they're complaining about the, the, the young 19, 20, 21 year old men that Musk has, uh, recruited into his team to, to go through and find this finding all kinds of stuff. Yes. That's what they're complaining about. They don't care that a child it's, it's, you know, a few months ago, it's, and it still is in their minds. It's okay for a child, for a minor to say, you know,
[00:18:27] who still believes in Santa Claus, say a little boy that he wants his, his testicles cut off because he wants to be a girl, right? That's okay. It that's okay. But, but, but this 19 year old kid is too young to be combing through our financial records. You know, you see what I'm saying? It's just, it's mind boggling. Let's take a quick break because I won't come back. I want to talk about, I just want to run down a long list of some of the things, um, that's going on. And I want to hear Jesse Waters talk a little bit about it and, uh, uh, Fox and friends, one moment we'll come back from
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[00:19:47] and, uh, and this, a lot of the stuff I, you're going to probably going to hear again from Jesse Waters and Fox and friends, but, uh, this is crazy. This is crazy. All right. So $2 million is doge discovered this, right? The Department of Government Efficiency discovered this in USAID. Again, that's the United States Agency for Independent Development, I believe is what it stands for. And it's basically a front, uh, a government agency front for money laundering. Yeah. All right. So it
[00:20:14] goes into this, it's supposed to, the whole purpose of this is to, is to further the goals of the United States. Like, so basically if it, if it improves the United States, right, it makes us better, uh, then that's what this money is supposed to be spent on. Okay. But this is what Doge has uncovered. This is what the Department of Government Efficiency has uncovered. This is what Trump was elected to do. All right. Trump was elected in office and he ran that he was going to, to do this
[00:20:40] kind of stuff. He ran on this. Everybody knew it when they voted him in office. This is what he was going to do. And this is what has been uncovered. And this is not even, this is the short list. $2 million for Moroccan pottery classes. Okay. The Moroccans have been building, have been making pottery longer the United States has been around. Yeah. True story. We're teaching them how to do it. Right. $2 million for promoting tourism in Lebanon. Again, how's that been in 50 United States?
[00:21:09] $20 million for a Sesame Street show in Iraq. Oh, I heard about that. I think I might've seen a clip, but I wasn't sure if it was fake or not. Cause I was like, there's no way Sesame Street in Iraq. No way. Can you imagine big bird throwing a homosexual Muppet off of a building? Oh my God. Oh, you're gay. I mean, I saw them. Yeah. I, I don't know how true the, the clip that I saw was, but I mean,
[00:21:33] they had like Muppets behind sandbags and they had, um, what do you call them? They're not burkas. Cause they're, um, ah, it's the little neck scarf. He, not a hijab. You know, I do know what you're talking about. Uh, I don't know. It's a multipurpose thing. They're like throwing bombs and stuff. I'm like, you gotta be kidding me. This isn't, this can't be real. This cannot be real. I have a feeling it probably was. Well, it probably was. Yeah. If that's what it, I mean, cause that's the culture I,
[00:22:03] I saw who was, was it CNN the other day? And this is one of those legacy media groups was over in one of those countries. Um, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iraq, I can't remember where it was at and the children, a group of children started stoning the reporters. Wow. And, and you see, that's the culture there. So Sesame street is going to feed the culture. So basically we're, we're investing, we invested $20 million for Sesame street to further, you know, that kind of,
[00:22:31] that kind of culture, that kind of behavior. Well, it kind of makes you wonder too. Like I remember watching Sesame street as a kid. So were we the experiment back then to see if we could be programmed gaslighting at its finest right there? Oh yeah. Uh, 1.5 million for DEI in Serbia. How is diversity, equity, inclusion in Serbia beneficial to the United States? I just don't understand. Did you see, did you say million? 1.5 million. Wow. Yes. 70,000 for DEI musical,
[00:23:01] in Ireland. So it's funny. Uh, a democracy gets a $70,000, right? And, uh, 1.5 million to Serbia and 70,000 to, to Ireland. I just think that's mind boggling. I don't want, I don't think any of this should be going over there for any kind of DEI, anything that was the case. 47, all our taxpayer dollars. Yes. Columbia gets $47,000. These are all, of course, all of this is, all this is taxpayer
[00:23:29] funded stuff. So this is going, is being funneled into USAID and is being laundered out to these other, these other ideals. We call it this ideology that the American people doesn't vote for. Well, in the contracts on the under, on the other end of that is what's really, I'm kind of curious to see what's going to happen to that. And I have a feeling that's why a lot of the politicians are freaking out because they've got, you know, some weird shelter corporation that
[00:23:54] they're funneling money into their nonprofit, so to speak. Doge from these. Yeah. Elon Musk recently said this happened within the last week or so that he is opening their, Doge is opening an investigation into the network net worth situation with our, our, our Congress people, because you get people like AOC and, um, and Pocahontas, uh, Elizabeth Warren, you know, these individuals who come in, they only make
[00:24:18] 150, $200,000 a year. It's not, it's a lot to me, especially if you live in Washington, DC, right? Where the price of living is, is crazy, but they, that's how much they make, right? 200,000 a year, but their net worth is in the millions of dollars. Yeah. And, um, I think I might've saved a video bartender to a millionaire within a couple of years. Yes. So you can't tell me that they're not getting some kind of kickbacks, probably from this, this kind of stuff here. And it's probably an inside thing. Like you don't really know this is going on. You run for office, you get in, Hey,
[00:24:48] let me show you about this little secret. Right. And, uh, and, but you got to work with us on this. You work with us on this and you keep your mouth shut. You know, you'll get all this, all these proceeds, but you gotta work with us on this. And that's how you keep people online because money, money talks. Oh yeah. And I think what's interesting is you got Doge and, you know, President Trump, both Elon Musk. And if it's headed up by Elon Musk, you got two billionaires. They, I mean, they don't have skin in the game at this point. They're doing it for efficiency sake.
[00:25:15] So that's what I wanted to see happen the first term. And now we're actually seeing it, um, on the second go around right off, right out of the gate. And it's kind of interesting to see because it's like, what are these people who have millions of dollars going to do against someone who has billions of dollars? You know, when, when their intentions are essentially to expose the truth. Right. Well, it's funny that they're, they're crying foul about all this stuff. Oh, Don. Yeah. Because they're, they're, they're crying, uh, that he was that Elon Musk was,
[00:25:44] is it? If you, their, their big complaint is he's unelected. He's unelected. He's okay. I didn't like to send my money to Lebanon or Siberia or wherever the hell else it's going. But that's exactly right. And, and the administrator of, of, uh, USAID who's been sending all this stuff, it wasn't elected either. No. Right. So you had this administrator that's going and tell you what, what else, you know, you don't need to be an elected person to go in there and do this job. Uh, and they're also saying that he's, he's taken over the power of the presidency and all
[00:26:13] this it's, it's all baloney. This job was actually created by, uh, I want to say by JFK. I could be mistaken, but I believe it was created by JFK back a long time ago in the 1960s, um, by the swipe of a pin. All right. Any government agency can be created by the president and it could be annihilated by the president. True story. Um, just because Congress votes to how much money they're going to send to these agencies doesn't mean that, uh, you know, that, that you need congressional approval to cut
[00:26:42] the agency. If it was created by the president, it could be taken down by the president. The thing is, there's been too many presidents with somebody else in their back pocket over the past several decades to where they don't, you know, they, they absolutely cannot turn that loose because there's money coming in. You know, they got to keep that money flowing into their own, I don't know, estates or whatever. So did I say a 47,000 for transgender opera in Columbia yet?
[00:27:12] Oh my God. I think you, I don't think you, you got all the way through the sentence. Uh, 40, yeah. 47,000 for transgender opera in Columbia. Very interesting. Uh, 32,000 for a transgender comic book in Peru. Wow. And here's another millions. So, I mean, $32,000 in Peru. That's a, when you convert that to that kind of the local money, that's, that's a hell of a lot of money. That's an annual
[00:27:38] salary for an average American. Right. And now you take that to Peru where people are making pennies right today. That's big bucks. That's huge. Yeah. So that country could essentially be funneling money somehow, some way back into a Congress person's, you know, whoever made, whoever saw fit to do this. Yeah. You know, the guy stealing luggage. Well, here's another thing. This, this could just be an idea. I don't know if this is accurate or not, but this is just, this is just L. Douglas Hogan talking about this, but you've heard,
[00:28:05] you've heard, um, let's, let's use, um, uh, a Democrat, for example, saying Republicans are not, we wrote a bill to send money to North Carolina, but the Republicans voted it down. Right. When you get to looking into those bills, you'll see that $5 million was going to North Carolina and $100 billion. And this is just, I'm just throwing some crazy numbers out there. $100 billion is going to Serbia for, for gay robot, um, porn comic books. They got writers on the bill that. Yes.
[00:28:34] Destroying, but there's line items in that bill. So you'll have 6,000 pages in a bill. One page will go to North Carolina and all these other, all the rest of it's called pork. It's just garbage. And so what they'll, what they'll say is we wrote this bill to send money. We tried to approve this bill to send money to North Carolina, but the Republicans shot it down. The Republicans are holding it up at, in the house or whatever the case may be, because you got stuff like this. What's my, my, my idea, and this is just L. Douglas Hogan talking is, is when you get, um, you know,
[00:29:04] say in this, this 6,000 page bill that's got one page for North Carolina, uh, that $2 million will go to Moroccan poetry classes or pottery classes, $2 million will go to tourism in Lebanon, $20 million to go to Sesame street, showing line items. So where does that go? They don't send it directly to the president or the dictator or, you know, the prime minister or whatever of that country, but it would get, probably get fun. My idea is that it probably gets funneled through USAID
[00:29:29] and they push it through to wherever it goes. So in my mind, I'm thinking that these people are, these Congress persons have these, probably these lobbyists that work for them and are, there's, there's probably a middleman, maybe two or three middle people. So there's fricking no, no crumbs, no breadcrumbs leading back to the Congress person. So when they get this approved in this bill, this kickback comes from this country back to this Congress person. And that's how their
[00:29:55] net worth builds up like that. Absolutely. And it's, I mean, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to scientists to figure it out, but it takes a lot of work to make that happen. And I think people are starting to see through, like people are actually starting to care. And like, I, I, I've had this conversation with a couple of people, like, you know, they're really, really upset with what's happening right now. I was super upset that, you know, the programs are getting cut or grants are getting pulled or different things or people are getting loose
[00:30:25] jobs, that kind of stuff. But if you think about it, that kind of stuff, again, like you said, it was already on the docket. That's, that's what was the plan. And some people obviously were against that plan. I think to me, it's really important to look at this big picture because right now, if I don't have to pay income tax or if it's reduced significantly, that's money back in
[00:30:49] my pocket. And that's money that'll allow me to live my life more fully and contribute in ways and in directions that I feel are worthwhile. Like maybe I want to donate to a humane society or do something else. If I want to send money to a transgender opera in Berlin, you know, Belgrade or wherever hell it is, I'll do that. But I want that to be my choice. I want it to be something that I decide on, not that some politician or group of politicians, Republicans and Democrats
[00:31:18] that are signing off on something, shipping out all of our cash somewhere else, and then laundering it back to themselves. I mean, you have billions of people in the United States getting taxed hundreds of dollars every month to pay for politicians to get richer. And we know this and we know what's happening. I think we're actually fed up enough to where we don't care what the fallout is. We want to see it burn to the ground and start back over with what we essentially need self-defense or,
[00:31:47] you know, national defense, you know, stable farms, that kind of stuff and independence. I don't think the man on the street in any of these liberal cities, I mean, you know as well as I do that liberal cities carry most states. Oh yeah. But I don't think that the man on the street understands that nothing is free. If you ask him, hey, how do you feel about the United States
[00:32:12] sending $2 million to, to a Morocco for pottery classes? It'll be, oh yeah, yeah, that's great. You know, cause what, what person wouldn't like for a Moroccan to make pottery? You know what I'm saying? Uh, what they're not understanding is they're making, uh, $15 an hour and, uh, how much of that is actually going into their pocket because the government is taking X amount of dollars away from them to send that to Morocco. Uh, you know, and it's not fair to the American taxpayer because
[00:32:40] even if you do support that, I don't. And you know, if, if, if I'm putting a single dollar into it, I have a vote on that and you shouldn't be taking my money without my knowledge and sending it somewhere else to some ridiculous DEI project in another country that's not benefiting the United States at all. Yeah. It's not furthering our goals. $2 million for sex changes in Guatemala, $6 million for tourism in Egypt, $1 million to help disabled, disabled people in Tajikistan
[00:33:09] become climate leaders, climate leaders, climate leaders. What's a climate leader? Is that going to, I was just going to say Greta, what's her name? Greta Thunberg. Yes. Are we going to create a generation of Greta's God? I hope not. And who's the other client we talked about last time on the show? The, uh, the kid that they just voted to be the, what's the vice? Oh yeah. Yes. I know like a whole generation of David Hoggs and Greta Thunbergs.
[00:33:40] No, thank you. Uh, $15 million for contraceptives and condoms in Taliban controlled Afghanistan. That's a lot of condoms. Yeah. And you think they're actually going to, what are they going to do? Oh no. They're actually going to use them? Yeah. You think they're good. They're, they're getting, yeah, exactly. That exactly that that's going to, it's getting funneled in and they're saying, Oh, look for $15 million for condoms. Uh, you think, you think it's being trans translated into condoms before they're the condoms are dropped into the country? Or do you think the money's just going into the country and they're spending on what they want? Guns.
[00:34:09] Yeah. They're just, yeah. Guns, ammo, whatever. Yeah. This isn't going to advancement or development. It's going to just garbage. It is truly going to garbage. So now what I want to do is, um, because I got, I made a list of these things off of, um, some, some shows, you know, that we watch, but let's hear it out of, uh, as Jesse waters, here's a clip from Jesse waters. Show us, he's reporting on some of this. We'll do a couple, a couple, uh, uh, outtakes from,
[00:34:36] from his show. $43 million on a gas station in Afghanistan that had no customers still less though than what Biden paid for a charging station here. One and a half million to promote gays, lesbians, and trans in Jamaica, Jamaican me crazy 4 million for trans Serbians, five and a half mil for gay rights in Uganda. Over 6 million for men who have sex with men in South Africa.
[00:35:05] That's just how it was described. 17 million to promote inclusion in Vietnam. It's just probably another way of saying it went to trans. We carpet bond them and then we paid them the cross dress 25 million to promote green transportation in Georgia, not the state, the country. And it's not like we took the money and bought them electric cars. We just paid a shady agency to put up a
[00:35:29] billboard that says buy electric cars. A million for Arab and Jewish photographers. Are you Jewish? Are you Arab? Do you have cameras? Here's a check $8 million to teach Sri Lankan journalists how to avoid a binary gendered language translation. We spent 8 million so that a reporter in Sri Lanka
[00:35:51] doesn't write he or she. Well, at least nobody died, right? Wrong. 122 million of the USAID money was given to terrorists. The Taliban is taxpayer funded. So was the Wuhan lab. So we're on a roll. Thoughts? It just makes me mad. I mean, I think and I think that makes a lot of people mad. Seeing this stuff, I mean, you, a lot of us knew that it was bad, but I don't think many people
[00:36:18] realized how bad it really was. And the fact that we're seeing it now, I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. Once we start seeing more of this stuff come out, once we start seeing the IRS and some of these other agencies, the FBI and things like that, as they get audited, I heard there was movement on Fort Knox as well to have to audit the gold reserves. I mean, I think we're really going
[00:36:46] to see some things and it's important. We got to rip off the bandaid. We got to get this stuff exposed and out there so people are paying attention. And then I think people will be able to make better decisions about their own politicians. Hopefully we don't see as much of the blue cities ruling the red states, essentially, because I think people will start to wake up to that as absurdity. Even
[00:37:11] people who would normally be left centric should be able to at least recognize that these are not effective ways to spend our taxpayer dollars. No, exactly. And we, we just, here's the thing. We had this, this huge, I don't think it's, I think red wave is the wrong term for it. I think because what happened with this last election was people that were centric, like, like in the middle,
[00:37:36] moderate, and maybe even a little left of, of moderate has, has seen what's going on in this country. And they were tired of it. They're tired of this stuff being force fed to us. And these, these things happening to us there, if you want to impact somebody, attack their pocketbook. And that's, what's going on here. People, the left has the, the money is people are filling it at home. They're filling it in their bills or filling it in the groceries. You know, we're, we talked about the price of eggs a while ago. You know, it, that's not really part of the economic problem as much as
[00:38:04] it is, you know, um, a pandemic issue, but the average American doesn't understand the difference when they go to the grocery store and they see that a dozen eggs is $6 that makes them angry. And, uh, that hits, that hits hard. And that happened during the Biden administration. And so, you know, they, they take to the polls and, and they vote for the, whoever's on the opposite team. Right. And so that's what we're seeing here. Yeah. And I think it'll make a big difference,
[00:38:31] but I think people, like I said, we got to pull the bandaid. We have to see this stuff. And I think people need to feel the pain, especially the politicians. Yeah. We got to hold them accountable at the, at the, at the, at the balance. That's for sure. Here's another clip from Jesse Waters, because why, what it was, what we just heard was in addition to the long list of things that I read earlier, here's another clip. This is what Democrats are fighting to save $20 million for
[00:38:56] Iraqi Sesame street. We covered that $2 million for Moroccan pottery classes, 11 million to tell Vietnam to stop burning trash, 27 million to give gift bags to illegals before we deport them millions to help Afghanis grow crops instead of opium. That program was such a success that opium production doubled. We also gave Afghanistan 300 million to build diesel fuel power plants,
[00:39:24] but they couldn't use them because diesel was too expensive. 200 million on a dam that was too unsafe to ever be used. We could have used that dam in California, 250 million on a road that was never used. We literally built a road to nowhere. Oh, and we gave Syrians nine mil for humanitarian aid, but someone messed up and it went to Al Qaeda. A million for bat research in Wuhan.
[00:39:52] That equates to a million dollars for each dead American. USAID was funding fashion week in Paris. France isn't even paying its NATO dues and we're paying for their fashion week. USAID is a $40 billion deep state social justice slush fund. Yep. I agree with that. Absolutely. That's probably the best way to put that deep state,
[00:40:18] deep state social slush fund. Yep. Let's see here. A couple more on USAID. Elon Musk says workers at Doge are putting in 120 hour work weeks. So host of Fox businesses making money. Charles Payne joins us now to take a look at a few of the cuts from this agency. This is very exciting. Think about this. He was inaugurated on the 20th, Charles. Right. And these are just the
[00:40:44] numbers that we've cut in the, what, 10 days? It's called a whirlwind and it's just getting started. It is. Let's go through some of it. This is the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Look how much we were spending. They had to cut almost 20 million. Department of Agriculture, Charles? 110 million. Office of Personnel Management, 500 million. USAID, obviously this is the one that's in the news right now. Right. 200, over 200 million. Because Elon shut it down. Yeah. Well, here's the thing.
[00:41:11] Listen, all of these things ostensibly were designed for good reasons or good intentions, but then they become covered. You ever ask us to clarify, these are Doge cuts. So the USAID stuff we talked about a while ago is wrapped up in that USAID that they just talked about. But in general, everything that this, that Fox Friends right now is talking about is what Doge is cutting expenditures to because they found, they found some kind of fraud or some kind of
[00:41:38] government waste. They spent money, you know. So where do all these folks who work in these administrations go after the administration's ousted? How do they still live in mansions after they're out of government? What's the answer? Well, a lot of it is these NGOs. A lot of these NGOs operate things that are funded by USAID. And it's amazing. As we find, as we start to peel the layer of the onion, we're going to see people like, oh, I thought this person was a journalist. He's getting millions of dollars from taxpayers. Right. What? Right. What exactly is this agency?
[00:42:08] What was it? What was it created to do? What was it created to sort of represent America around the world and help other nations? Humanitarian efforts. It's aid. But again, it's like who decides what the aid is? Who gets in? By the way, who manages it? There's no accountability for it. Right. And so it's you've got to shut it down. It's become a beast. It does. It does things that we're not supposed to do. So let's say Congress says, hey, we no longer want to do X, Y, Z in this country. USAID can fund an entity to do the same thing on behalf of special interests.
[00:42:35] So even though the government's not directly funding it, the taxpayers are still paying for it against the wishes of our Congress. It's really become an outlaw industry. I mean, people are waking up right now and getting ready to take their kids to school and go to their jobs. Hardworking Americans. They work for these tax dollars and then we're wasting it on. Look at look at this. This is where we're sending money to other countries. Serbian LGBT. All the stuff you're ready to cover is of USAID. EQ rights group. They got one point five million dollars electric
[00:43:05] vehicles for Vietnam. Two point five million South African transgender HIV research. Thirty million. Uganda, LGBTQ rights group, four million and Egyptian tourism, six million. I heard on Sean show last night. They we we gave we according to Eric Schmidt, our senator, uh, 20 million dollars to Sesame Street shows in Iraq. Yeah. Yeah. And again, a lot of this is pushing in an ultimate, an alternative agenda,
[00:43:30] right? Uh, Uganda, Uganda has their own government. They have their own people. They have their own say, right? They may not want us pushing LGBTQ in their country, right? We're trying to force our values or not. Sometimes it's not even our values. Sometimes it may be the values of special interests using taxpayer money. It has to stop. You say, how do we get this? Almost 40 trillion now in debt, right? Mm hmm. Trillion dollars a year just to service the debt. This is what's crushing America. If we want
[00:43:56] to remain the greatest nation in the world, we have to. Just to re- I would pause it there. Just to reiterate that, uh, that $4 million that went to Ugandan LGBTQ rights group, that's, that would be similar to, to say, um, Russia giving $4 million to, to Black Lives Matter or to some other, uh, hate group in the United States, uh, that, that burns buildings and tears up police cars. You see what I'm saying? They're, they're pushing their money. We're pushing our money into another government,
[00:44:24] to another group, to, to push an agenda. That's our own would per se, you know, the liberal left from the United States into Uganda. It might not be their policy. They wouldn't like it if that was happening to us with them pushing, you know, if Russia was sending money over here, oh my Lord, can you imagine what would happen? Because right now the left, the hates, because right now it's, it's, it's good for them to hate Russia because Trump is talking, uh, making relations with Putin, for example. Right. So, and then they got the whole, the whole thing with where, where,
[00:44:53] where Trump was colluding. So, so, so Putin is like the, the number one enemy right now to, uh, to the left. And, uh, so imagine if they were to send money over here to push an agenda that was pro-Russian picking back up sort of haircuts and it's not going to be hard. Everyone's like saying it's going to be hard. It's not going to be hard, but it does mean that a lot of these sort of, these special interest groups are going to take a hit. They're very powerful. They have amazing resources. They control a lot, but they've never met the force of a
[00:45:21] combination of a president Trump and Elon Musk. They've never had that one, two combination before. Yeah. I understand starving children in another country. I understand maybe helping with war efforts, but not that's who we are as a nation. We've saved the country. We saved the world on a couple of occasions. We've, we've, we've built the world on a couple of occasions. That's what America is. But these things have been hijacked. Our, our sympathy for the world, our compassion for the world has been hijacked by special interests who are doing, doing two things, pushing an agenda and lining their pockets. It's time to say no.
[00:45:51] You're right. Marco Rubio talked about this. You know, he was meeting with the El Salvadorian president. He was meeting with Maduro already working hard in a short amount of time. And here's what he said, calling out USAID. USAID is not only not cooperative, they undermine the work that we're doing in that country. They are supporting programs that upset the host government. They're completely uncooperative.
[00:46:20] So we had no choice but to take dramatic steps to bring this thing under control. We are going to fund programs that make America stronger or safer or more prosperous. We're going to, we're going to pay for things that make sense for the United States. The United States government is not a charity. It is not a global charity. And what is the goal each day? How much does Elon want to cut? Ultimately, I think $4 billion a day. That's, that's the goal. And it's got, it's got to listen. This is a lot of money. People are lining their pockets. There are people out there who are making
[00:46:48] hundreds of millions of dollars off of this. And it's a real nice cushion. They've got friends all the way in the media. They've got friends throughout the corporate world. They've got friends throughout government. It's not an easy thing. It can only in my mind have been achieved or could be achieved by an outsider with the kind of power of a Leland Musk who can't be bought off. He can't be intimidated and neither can the president. Again, that's the ultimate one, two points for getting to some of this stuff, because there's going to be a tremendous amount of pressure and you're going to read articles today. How dare we deny people around the world? Who are we? Who have
[00:47:18] we become? We don't want to help the poor folks out there. Of course we do. We don't want to help their, you know, their leader somewhere with a Swiss bank account. Right. Sesame Street in Iraq. I mean, it's common sense. Exactly. It goes back to that. And again, what Rubio said to, Secretary Rubio said that was intriguing. Often it goes against the interests of either our interests or even the interests of those governments. It's not even in their interests. They don't even want it.
[00:47:43] In some cases. We're trying to instill certain things in some of these countries that they don't want. Right. You know, you know, and it's, this is how we get into wars. This is how, you know, this is how we get into the, to get involved in things that we should not be involved in. Yeah. So in my thought, I didn't even think about, about the whole team of, of Trump and Elon Musk. Like they, they, both these men are workhorses. They don't rest. They, I know neither, true story.
[00:48:12] Neither one of them speak well. They both think well. And I, I raised an argument one time to a liberal that, that Trump is, is a good businessman. They're like, well, I hardly think he's a successful businessman. He's went bankrupt. Fine. The guy came into his network worth whenever he, you know, I mean, his father, I think he inherited like $4.2 million, something like that. And now he's like worth what? 40 million, something along those lines. Uh, so that's success in my book. Not all businesses
[00:48:41] succeed. You can start a hundred business. Any person can start a hundred businesses and several of them will fail and go bankrupt because that's just, you throw out an idea. You got to go big. Sometimes you gotta make big decisions to make big money. And sometimes they fail. That's just how it is. Trump is successful. Elon is successful. Neither one of these men rest. They're both very intelligent and they both need to want to talk very well. And they, they, they hit hard and they cannot be paid for. Yeah. And they surround themselves with people who are in that same vein, very intelligent people that are working hard and
[00:49:10] or smart, you know? So I think what's interesting with, uh, on your USA, say, AD, USAID thing, I'm, and the bill, the 6,000 page, you know, pork bills that are actually getting through. You got to realize too, that in order for those bills to have passed for that money to have been sent to these places, there would have had to have been bipartisan effort, which means that this isn't just
[00:49:37] the left. There's people on the right who are skimming off of that. Maybe not a hundred percent, maybe not 50%, but you know that there is money going on both sides of the table. And I'm really curious to see who on the right side of the fence is going to start shouting. Well, naturally it's going to be the, it's going to be the rhinos. It's going to be, and there might be more outside of that, I'm sure, but you get these ones who always seem to align themselves. They go in red and they seem to align themselves all the time when it comes to the voting
[00:50:06] on bills and things with the blue, with, you know, with the people across the, across the alley. Absolutely. And it makes me wonder like, why, what are they getting out of it? And now we're starting to see what they're getting out of it. They're getting kickbacks from some of that. They have to be getting contracts or kickbacks out of these NGOs, which is a non-government office, right? Yes. Something like that. Let's see here. Stephen Miller, Republican advisor. I guess, I guess he's, he's moved on to,
[00:50:34] who in Trump's new administration is a Homeland Security advisor. Listen to this, like he kind of knocks it out of the park here. He's on, he's on Fox with, um, uh, I won't say McCallum is her name, the blonde head lady on Fox. Uh, listen to this. You know, with regard to this yelling and screaming about Elon Musk and the fact that he is unelected, um, explain how you see the legal basis for him to have, uh, the right to do everything that he is
[00:51:03] doing in asking these different agencies to open up their books. The, the Democrat use of the term unelected is really quite remarkable here. Donald Trump was elected in an overwhelming landslide. These are Donald Trump staffers. And this is like saying that Mike Walls, the national security advisor is unelected, or Susie Wilde, the chief of staff is unelected, or Donald Trump's communications team is unelected. This is
[00:51:29] presidential staff that serves at the pleasure and for the president, just as I do. I am a staffer for the president of the United States. He is elected. He is the one that American people have chosen to implement his agenda. This is the agenda the American people voted for, that he is asking his staff, his subordinates, his employees to implement. The unelected power in this country is the rogue
[00:51:54] bureaucracy. USAID is unelected. The FBI, the persecuted president Trump for eight years is unelected. The CIA and those who have laundered intelligence to try to change the foreign policy of the United States are unelected. President Trump is restoring democracy by controlling the federal bureaucracy. There's one man in the country who is elected by the whole American people
[00:52:22] to implement an agenda they support. That is the president. Every other officer in this country, members of Congress and senators, are elected at the state or local level. The Constitution puts one man in charge of the federal executive branch, and that's the president. I understood. And all of these people serve at his behalf and have been appointed. With regard to where the Doge effort
[00:52:45] goes next, tell me what you think the plan is for the Pentagon and for Medicaid, which we know does have a lot of waste in it. Does the president intend to go after Medicaid and find waste there and cut it? Well, the president is going to direct his staff, which includes Doge, which includes me, which includes the Domestic Policy Council, to go and look for waste, fraud, and abuse in every part of the federal
[00:53:13] government. I mean, for example, we have Medicaid going to illegal aliens. Illegal aliens. Who the heck wants federal taxpayer dollars to subsidize free health care for illegals? Yeah, that's got to be shut down. And if we have foreign nationals who don't belong here, stealing federal benefits, or scammers stealing federal benefits, of course you want that shut down. And as far as the Pentagon is concerned, we want the most lethal and effective fighting force in the world. We certainly don't
[00:53:39] want any graft. We certainly don't want any corruption. We certainly don't want anyone inflating contracts or taking 10 years to do something that should happen in one year. We want maximum value for the taxpayer. President Trump is a businessman, a business titan, who has made a living for decades, finding cost savings, delivering projects ahead of schedule under budget. And now he is our he's our president. He is the leader of this country and he is going to deliver radical cost
[00:54:07] savings for the American people, which is what they voted for. Yeah. And how many campaign pictures did you say keep spending? I mean, it's something pretty much about seeing how worked up Democrats are about protecting, for example, the Department of Education, which has been a failure, an abject failure in its mission, which was to help kids at the lower end of the academic range to catch up. And they've spent a trillion dollars doing that, as we just said in the prior segment. And that would be considered,
[00:54:35] I think by anyone's measure, a failure. Let me ask you a specific question, Stephen, about, so the number, we're seeing 45,000 have accepted the package to leave federal government employment. You can tell me if that number has increased. After this expires at midnight on Monday, this offer for eight months of paid vacation at the end of this chart of their term, will then
[00:55:00] will it go to layoffs if people refuse to come back to the office? What comes next? Well, of course, if you refuse to go back to the office, they're going to be laid off. I mean, why would federal taxpayers be subsidizing Netflix watching at home for so-called federal workers? In other words, how can you call yourself a federal worker if you never show up at the office? We have these giant cavernous office buildings in Washington, D.C., carved out of marble stone and
[00:55:27] granite in the Greek classical style for the most gorgeous buildings on earth. The taxpayers fund it, they pay for it, they upkeep to provide electricity to, and no one's showing up. I'm going to stop it there. It's a long interview, but he made some really good points. I'm torn, though, on the public education thing. What's your thoughts on that? Honestly, I'm on board. I think it was a failed experiment. And I'm a product of the public
[00:55:55] education system. My kids have gone through the public education system. But I think that I probably could have done better homeschooling. And I know that in my experience with my son and daughter, the time that they spent homeschooling essentially at their own pace, they were finishing their work significantly earlier to the point where it wasn't so much about education at school,
[00:56:21] it was about socialization. So there's an aspect, there's a component of the public education system with regard to social interaction. But the generations that exist right now in school, they socially interact very differently than we did. And so if we're trying to teach them at a pace that is slower than they could learn on their own, then it's not really school. It's social time.
[00:56:45] Right. And it's a waste. It's a daycare. So we're paying these massive daycares that are supposedly going to instruct our children on basic things that they're not learning because it's too slow. It's not advanced. They're not engaged. And granted, there are exceptions to that. But for the most part, that's what I'm seeing. I'm like 70% in favor of gutting it like 30 30% in favor of rehauling it. Uh, and here, mostly because I'm married to, um, she used to be a teacher and she's argued her points to
[00:57:15] me, which are very understandable. Um, if it goes to the States, which I'm a, I'm a fan of, I think it should go to the States. Um, but if the States are developing their own curriculum, how different would it be if my, if I relocate from Illinois, let's say I have a teenager that's just going finishing her freshman year leaving from Illinois, where they're probably going to have a very liberal curriculum to, um, another, another state or vice versa. Let's say I'm in Tennessee and
[00:57:40] I'm moving to Illinois. I'm going from a very conservative curriculum to a very liberal curriculum that could, you know, and they're going to be in a different place. Like they could be further ahead or they could be further behind. And, and that was one argument that she pitched and I totally get it. And also the other, the second thing that she pitched to me was the, the socialization. We have kids in, in, in school right now that are being taught that it's okay to, uh, you know, to urinate or to
[00:58:06] poop, defecate or whatever in, in, in cat boxes. Right. Um, that's not what I call socializing. You know, I don't want my kids to learn how to do that. I don't want my kids to see that. I don't want them to be around that, but they do need to be around. They do need to learn how to communicate with children in groups and stuff and talk because, um, I'm going to say somebody I know, uh, has a supervisor that was homeschooled and her, she don't know how to communicate with
[00:58:33] people at all. Like her hand, her communication skills are awful. She, she don't go to, to, to community, to, to, to groups, to, um, committees, um, that are, that she's responsible for. Like there's several committees below her that she should be going to, but she doesn't because she's not a group speaker. She don't know how to public speak. She's not good at it. Uh, she's not good at communicating. Uh, she goes outside and she's kind of got this introvert kind of personality, which I'm not, I'm not, you know, saying that that's a bad thing,
[00:59:02] but when you learn, when you don't learn to communicate. It's fairly typical with homeschool. Yeah. Uh, and, and a lot of the, a lot of the kids I know that have been homeschooled or introverted, they don't know how to behave in groups of kids. Yeah. And, and, and that's how we're going to develop leaders properly, you know, if, if we're not getting them in groups and that's just, that's my 30 percentile thing that I'm, you know, uh, the playground, it's not, it's not really happening anymore. No. And you know, both of my kids actually went, they tried homeschooling
[00:59:30] and they were great at it and they got their stuff done early, but both of them went back to the public school system because of that lack of connection. They were just home by themselves all day. So I think that there is a lot of room for improvement in the curriculum and the speed, the pace, you know, the compatibility between States speaking from experience. I went from a school district in Salt Lake city to a school district in Eastern Washington. In fifth grade,
[00:59:57] I was reading and, uh, doing math at about a three or four grade deficiency. I had like, in, I want to say in fifth grade, I didn't even know how to multiply two sets of two numbers together, like 12 times 40. And I had to basically get caught up. Didn't take very long, but they realized that I was way off. And part of that, and this was before we started having standardized testing and,
[01:00:26] you know, that kind of stuff. So being at the same level, you got to be careful because sometimes there's good and bad with that. Cause you could be dragging people down who should be excelling. And on the other hand, you could be holding people back on the individual state side of things like you were saying, where you go to a different state, but that can also be beneficial because if, if, for example, a state has a more desirable, uh, education system, then you will
[01:00:55] attract people to that state who are more capable and who want to have that type of education for their kids. So there's, there's arguments to both sides of it. But I think in general, the main argument is that the system that we have now is flawed to the point where it's a waste of money. And, you know, we, we just, we need to find a better way. My biggest argument with the current system is the curriculum. When, when the government regulates anything, they control it. So,
[01:01:22] you know, I don't know who, who, I don't know the process, who controls the curriculum. All I know is that when, when, when, when, again, my kids are grown, I got, you know, my stepdaughters in school still, and, and she's a sophomore and she's taking college level classes and she's already getting ready, you know, cause that's this, this system right now where she's going to school at. She's, she's thriving. She's doing well. Um, and, and my son, some, and I'm going
[01:01:48] back to the nineties now, whenever he was, uh, he was, he has, he was autistic and there was, there was, he was kind of behind everybody because of that. And so nobody could meet him in his level. He wasn't able to keep up with the style of instruction that he was receiving. So I was, I actually spearheaded was one of the persons that spearheaded at least in Illinois. I don't know if, if I was the only person I don't know. I don't know to tell you the truth, but I know in that school I spearheaded the, what do you call it? The, the school board or whatever, uh, to develop,
[01:02:18] um, an IED for the IED, not IED, IPE, individualized IED. No, I'm thinking of, uh, if it might as explosive device, I'm talking about, about, um, when you, uh, get, uh, an individual, um, education. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's a learning plan. I think I'm just getting my acronyms wrong. Uh, when, when we, of course he didn't have that, but once that was developed for him, he was able to catch up and into, to, to maintain and graduate on time with everybody else.
[01:02:45] But I don't want my kids going to school and learning that there's no such thing as genders or that there's an, you know, an infinite number of genders. Invest that kind of time or energy into it when we have far greater deficiencies within our mental, the mental capability of the students that we're raising right now. Right. And you know, Illinois, and it's not that they're not capable. Obviously your son is capable, but it needed a different method that didn't fit the mold. So, and like states like Illinois and Washington is very liberal
[01:03:15] too in California. When these, these States are highly liberal and they're taxing their people have to death. Uh, how much money do you think they're actually going to put into an education system? Yeah. I mean, exactly. It's just, and it's going to, that's the, you're going to see it. You're going to see it at the gas station. You're going to see it in your, you know, maybe income tax or housing, you know, whatever your, what do you call it? I'm trying to blank, but like you say,
[01:03:44] what are you going to get out of it? I mean, how's that going to shape up? It's going to be interesting to see, cause I don't want to be sitting here living in Washington and paying for people to learn how to use their own device or use the wrong bathroom or something. Exactly. It's not exactly. And that's the whole thing with the whole government. This system is broken. It's definitely broken. And the whole department of education, I think it needs to be gutted. I think it needs to be overhauled. Uh, you know, if, if, if, if we're going to be,
[01:04:11] there needs to be, if we're going to put tax dollars into an education system, a government education system, so that everything is, is the same across the board, then it needs to be regulated by the people. There needs to be a committee of people, you know, not just somebody that the president appoints to oversee that, you know what I'm saying? Uh, because for eight years, we could have somebody, you know, we'd have a Democrat president for eight years who has extremely liberal values is going to elect a cabinet member that oversees the department of
[01:04:38] education. Who's going to make sure that the curriculum that goes into our school systems are extremely liberal. That system is broken. And that's a part of it that I think needs to be, needs to be fixed. I'm absolutely for it, but I, there, it needs, we need an alternative and it needs to be a successful alternative. We just can't, we just can't throw it to the States. Here you go. Good luck. Yeah. I mean, there's gotta be, there's gotta be a method out there. And I think we're not really looking at it closely enough. I think we've, we paid more attention to options and what we could do and what we should be doing. Because we've had the same system. I got one more
[01:05:08] little video on a play and it's just because it's, you know, we need to close for an hour, over an hour, um, threats to, uh, to Elon Musk. Um, talk to you briefly about it. Uh, even let you listen to the video or the audio, um, right before the show started, uh, they've already started. And I think what I'm gonna start doing, you know, is remember what I had before with all the, all the Trumps, all the threats against Trump in the intro, I'm gonna start putting a new fresh batch together. Cause I'm telling you, it's getting to take off again. They're already, it's already
[01:05:35] getting crazy. Yes. It's getting nuts and they're already starting to make threats. Now we have a person here, a representative, a Democrat representative made saying we need actual weapons and that we're in a, we're in actual war and we need actual weapons. Listen to this lunacy. I've got to tell Elon Musk. Well, hold on a second. This is, this is the wrong video, but I'm going to go and play this. This is like a compilation audio of, uh, of several Democrats, uh, starting their violent tendencies
[01:06:01] again here. Hold on. I've got to tell Elon Musk. Nobody elected your. He must be made to pay. We must enforce the law. It is pretty clear. We have to check down the city. We are at war. Yeah. Anyway, all right, let me see here. I want to hear, uh, why, but do you think
[01:06:28] that calling Elon Musk a dick is effective messaging for confronting what is a potentially irreversible transformation of the U S government? Well, he is a dick. And I think he's also harming the American public in an enormous way. And what I think is really important. And what the American public want is for us to bring actual weapons to this bar fight. This is an actual fight for
[01:06:54] democracy, for the future of this country. And it's important to push back on the chairperson of this committee. I mean, Marjorie Taylor green talks about having decorum about bipartisanship. This is the person that lies more than anybody else in the entire Congress. And so if she is going to make a mockery of hearings, I want to make sure that us as Democrats are bringing that same level of energy. Ryan, he, he said, he said Elon Musk is causing actual damage to the American, the American
[01:07:22] population or American people. Yeah. And I mean, I think the only thing that he's damaging is the reputation of politicians and people who are sucking that government tea. That's just it. He's, he's, what he's doing is he's digging into, into these, um, all this wasteful spinning and he's making it available. He's, he's, he's showing transparency to the American people and showing them what waste has been going out to all these countries. And it's driving these people crazy because they know that their
[01:07:51] bank is drying up and they're upset about it. So they're pointing the fingers, everything that they point at Elon Musk or is three fingers pointed right back at them. Yep. And you just watch, I mean, you're going to see half a million, million dollar condos going up for sale in DC because these people are going to be able to afford their two and three and four houses, you know, because all the money's going to dry up. And so these, these politicians that were elected are actually going to have to do
[01:08:18] their job. Yeah. And it's going to be the first time in some cases that they ever have. So I think, I think it's really going to turn things around. I, it's going to hurt and it's going to hurt those people, but guess what? That's how you get stronger. I say grow, no pain, no gain. Yeah. My brother used to tell me pain's weakness, leaving the body. And right now we're going through some pain, but I can feel the weakness leaving in this nation. I hear you. All right. We want to thank everybody for joining us today on the rising Republic. I'm L Douglas Hogan.
[01:08:48] And I'm Ryan Buford. Thanks for joining us, everybody.
