Church and State - The Black Sphere with Kevin Jackson

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You know, when I get introduced like that, people think like I was some refugee coming from the deep, dark recesses of Africa. I was adopted by my maternal grandparents, raised with two amazing people. After my mother died, my father, of course, was in prison. I'm glad I didn't get with my dad's side of the group because all of the men on that side have been to prison or are in prison currently. So I know what my fate likely would have been. But no, you know, I don't have a sad story. My mother died. If you ask me, do I want her back? Would I want to experience that? Absolutely. There's a part of me that is. But there's also a part of me that understands life very differently. Because I lost my mother. I tell people this in my first book. I said, when you when your mother dies, I said on that day, I lost my mother and my grandmother. And they were like, your grandmother died, too. I go, no, no. You don't understand. When my grandmother took us on, me and my brother, she became my mother. So I've never I don't know what a grandmother experience is or grand grandparents experience where they love on you and then they send you home to the parents. My grandparents were my parents. So my uncles, I grew up like I was brothers to them. And but, you know, I wouldn't change it. I mean, I gave me a real firm understanding of religion. We grew up in a Baptist environment, three hour church sessions with the. the heat and sister. We go do. So, you know, I experienced the whole thing, but by no stretch of the imagination, when I look at my life and think I was, I grew up on a 25,000 acre cattle ranch where I had a car at the age of 10, my brother and I bought our first car. I was 10. My brother was 11 going on 12. That was the first car. We had a Volkswagen Beetle. And we ripped and rode up and down that 25,000-acre cattle ranch doing things I would never let my kids do. I mean, I had a. 22 Ruger. My brother had an over-and-under. 410 with a. 22. We went shooting animals every day. I don't know how many times we drove that car into a ditch, how many times we went in canoes without life jackets, how many times we faced off with wild animals. I got treated by javelinas one day because I caught a little javelina pig and decided I wanted a pet. And they treated me for about two hours. So I finally threw the thing away and they kept me there another 30 minutes for good for just to be on the safe side. So, you know, I grew up in the most crazy, fun environment that I would never allow my kids to grow up in. But it made me fearless, fearless for the Lord, obviously, and fearless in politics and this crazy world that we find ourselves in. You bring up an interesting point because your childhood sounds delightful, to be quite honest. And, you know, I didn't grow up on that kind of a ranch, but same kind of thing. I was in trouble. My parents didn't know where I was. You know, you get home from school and you just disappear. In fact, your parents didn't let you in the house. You know, you had a hose to drink water out of if you were really thirsty. And the government took it upon themselves to remind the parents, you know, hey, it's 10 o'clock. Do you know where your children are? They used to flash across the televisions. Have we gotten to a point with the helicopter parenting that we're actually doing a disservice to the youth? The short answer is, yeah. You got to let kids experience and grow in their own way. Now, that being said, I could probably count the number of so-called pedophiles, you know, on one hand that I knew growing up. I did not know what a gay guy was, a gay person was. For years, I remember we were in Dallas, Texas, visiting my cousins and this very attractive man that kind of walked like a woman. And he had a little man purse. And I looked at him, we were putting gas in the car and I see this guy and he's stylish. I mean, I'm a country kid, right? I got blue jeans and that kind of side. I didn't know men could dress stylishly. And we had two and a half movie, you know, TV channels. So it wasn't like you were you got a thousand channels and you see James Bond. Right. And, you know, that style. Well, this guy was stylish, but he walked like a woman. And I'll never forget. I was probably 15. And I looked at him and then I looked at my grandmother and my grandmother looked at me and I said, she goes, he's funny like that. And so here's what's funny. in black vernacular as a kid, when somebody said he's funny, it wasn't humor based. It meant he was gay and which ironically funny and gay became the same thing. But that's how gay became the word because black folks used to say he's funny. So, but that was my first, you know, I, I didn't, and then here's the thing. I probably knew people were gay, but didn't know, you know what I'm saying? I mean, I'd been around them, but that guy I knew was different. And so, but that was my first, because you're sheltered. Now, what's interesting is my kids knew about gay people by the time they were six. So I'm just using that as an example. Now, what else have they been exposed to? Many, many things. I mean, we have a, my wife has an app that tells us where the pedophiles, people that are on the registry, So before we move, she'll say, okay, that house, that house, and that house have pedophiles. So when we lived in St. Louis, we wouldn't let our son go out the door without us watching him. And the car would be right there if he had to get something out of the car. We watched him. Now, we live in a place now where he rips and runs, and he's 20, our youngest son. He rips and runs and does whatever. But prior to that... We were helicopter parents almost because you had to be, especially growing up. You know, I always kind of lived in nice neighborhoods, but I'm saying, you know, growing up the way I did, it was a different thing. So I don't blame parents as much as I might. But I do feel that the kids need to be you need to let them grow. And there comes a point like at 15 with our son, our last son, we pretty much said, look, you're going to grow up because we've been coddling you a little too much. Sure. Well, let me just say this, uh, as a, as a standup comedian, uh, as you are, I hope black people never say that you are funny. Uh, I'll just throw that out there for you. That's a good one, man. I try. On occasion. Yes. Um, I want to turn this, this conversation into politics. Cause I know, I mean, this is your wheelhouse. Uh, you've been, you've been in it at Fox news. Uh, you were employed with them for a long time. Currently, politics is very, very interesting. I mean, there is some factions that have arisen. There's fighting within the Democrat side of things. There's fighting within the Republican side. And you truly are an expert on this. But let me just throw some things at you here. We've got the midterms coming up here. And, you know, some of them, some people are being on the doom scale, like, hey, the Republicans are going to lose. They're going to lose pretty badly due to things like the Epstein files, the war in Iran or Ukraine, the economy, of course. And then there's others saying, no, no, there's going to be a massive red wave. The Democrats aren't bringing anything new to the table. Where do you align on all this? The latter. The Republicans are going to absolutely skin the Democrats alive. So there's a couple of things I always like to have fun with. And so I'll do the thing with you. So who is the leader of the Republicans? Donald Trump. Pretty easy answer, right? Most people, I don't think there's anybody that's going to disagree with that. And it's the first thing out of your mouth. Now, who's the leader of the Democrats? Yeah, I mean, I might throw out AOC, Mondami. I mean, there's a lot that are out there. I think that DSA probably is more of the leadership. So we got DSA. You named two people, AOC and Mondami. You could throw in Pelosi. She's retiring, but she's still a big name. Hakeem Jeffries is the theoretical leader because he's the fourth in line. or fifth, whatever, for the presidency, and he's the leader of the Democrats, a minority leader in the House, you could throw in Pete Buttigieg, may think he is. What about Joe Biden and Kamala Harris? I mean, he's a former president. She's a former presidential candidate. What about Barack Obama? He's supposed to be the elder statesman of the Democratic Party. But what's funny is none of those names come right to mind because it's simple. None of them are the leader of the Democratic Party. We know who our leader is. So I would tell you, is there an advantage there? I say there is. Now, the media will tell us that they're not. Donald Trump is hated. So now let's explore it a little deeper. So there's a report right now that the Republicans are outraising the Democrats substantially. We got to take a break. Nope. I think Chris accidentally hit something. Some things happen organically. There we go. All right. So, Chris, I don't know, man. I think I'm not trying to compete with the with the blue collar Elon Musk here, but I'm a pretty handsome guy. You have to take me off the TV, bro. All right. I'll give you another chance. All right. I got another shot. Let me let me do my other my Zoolander side. That's good. The blue steel. I like it. Blue steel, black steel, black steel, black steel. Sorry. Anyway, so we look at the money right now. The Democrats are saying we're broke. Why are they broke? The Democrats have never been broke. If you go back and look throughout history, it's been neck and neck or the Democrats have been the leader. in terms of financing. But they're not. They're broke. James Carville just came out and said, Republicans got advantage. They got more money than Democrats. Well, why? Why do they have more money than Democrats? What's changed? Let me tell you what's changed. They dried up the money source, USAID to NGOs, flowing back into ActBlue, going to the Democrats. So, why do we have the DSA? Because the Democrats broke them— Donald Trump broke that conveyor belt of grift, and all these lazy Democrats that didn't have to do anything to get money and put it into their campaigns and essentially buy their votes, can't buy their votes anymore. So it allowed the DSA to take over. Now, you could say, well, the DSA is the equivalent of MAGA. No, it's not. MAGA makes sense. MAGA is the Tea Party Revised. It's Tea Party 2.0. The only difference is it has a leader, and that leader is liked. And so let's go back to the money. If the Democrats are so liked and Trump is so hated, and we're all looking at how the money flows— in other words, if ActBlue is having issues, shouldn't WinRed be having the same issues? In other words, if both groups are cheating, then why isn't WinRed afraid? Why isn't Congress bringing WinRed and saying, where are these donations coming from for the Republicans who have $ 600 million in their coffers? Well, because the donations for the Republicans are coming from legitimate people, not smurfs, not fake bots that voted for Joe Biden and so on. So, if Trump is hated, and yet he— answer me this, and Chris, you get in on this too, bro— Is there anybody in the Republican Party who wouldn't take a fundraiser with Trump there or ask Trump to come support them in the Republican Party? Is there anybody that would reject President Trump if he said, I'll come and do a fundraiser, I'll come to your city to rally the vote? Probably Thomas Massey. I got jokes. I'm bringing the jokes. No, I mean, you're right. And I will say, and the audience knows this about me, I'm not a Republican. I'm not a Democrat. I refer to myself as a Bibletarian. I'm a Christian Libertarian. So I do have issues on both sides. They both tend to frustrate me. But I will say with what you were speaking about, Donald Trump has proven exactly what you're saying. When candidates bring Donald Trump, when his endorsement comes... They do win. And I'll throw out Lindsey Graham, who I despised, quite honestly. I did not like Lindsey Graham. And I thought, gosh, he's got to lose. People don't like him. I'm seeing people booing him. Trump endorses him, and he won. Now, ultimately, his sister replaced him. But you do have something to stand on with what you're saying. Well, I'll ask it this way. Right now, the Democrats are telling Kamala Harris, don't campaign with us. They're telling Joe. Is there anybody that wants Biden to campaign with him? I mean, come on. Right. And Barack Obama, Bill Clinton are supposed to be their big secret weapons. How many people are they campaigning with? So, look, you don't have to get too philosophical here to understand where we are. They tell you Trump is hated, but everybody wants him. They tell you that the polls show this. Carville, in an interview recently, said, I don't believe the polls. Now, I've been saying it for years. The polls are nonsense. The polls are like the historical— well, historically, during the midterms, the president in office, you know, the party in office loses. Well, that's—you know what they're telling you? That's the way we've rigged it. We've rigged it so that when the loss occurs, you go, well, that's the history. But the fact is, that's not the case. And what's going to happen in the midterms is the Democrats are going to get bludgeoned. And here's why. Number one, Donald Trump is doing his job. Now, you can point at the price of gasoline and inflation. Everybody knows Trump doesn't own that. That's a Biden issue. But the second thing is he's super effective and his effectiveness has drawn the Democrats into complete and utter lunacy. There's not a single policy position, and I defy anybody looking at the program, right to me, there's not a single policy position that the Democrats are, as the saying goes, on the 80% side of. Whether it's closing the border, deportation of these illegals, the crime wave that's occurring under them, I just profiled all these prosecutors and judges who let people out on the street who are violent criminals. And, you know, they do nothing. And there's been nothing that's happened to them. Well, now they're starting to take a look at that in states like Texas, where they're going to start holding those prosecutors and judges responsible. But the treatment of women... Look at the trends issue with respect to how women are being treated, how little girls and they're disrespecting Title nine. Look at what they're doing to the best basketball player in the NBA, the WNBA. I call it the Black Lesbian League. But look at what they're doing to the white girl in the Black Lesbian League, where the best player is being ostracized, even in this. this World Cup thing where they were playing, a guy showed that they would not throw the ball to Kaitlyn Clark because they didn't want her to become the MVP. This is the number one player in the WNBA, has saved the league, and they won't do anything to elevate her. I mean, the war against white folks, the war against the anti-Semitism, that's out there. The idea that we go to war with Iran, you know, which everybody's been kicking the can down the road on this, and Trump does something about it, and they get mad. Doge, exposing, you know, waste, fraud, and abuse. I could go down— I mean, again, show me anything. I love it when they go, the Democrats— Caro says, somebody said that the Democrats have the momentum on their side, was what they quoted. I said, where? Please, show me the momentum of the Democratic Party anywhere. If anybody believes that, man, you're subject to believe anything if somebody can convince you that in 2024, when Donald Trump kicked Kamala Harris, drug her all by. Her weave through the ghetto politically— okay, and then you're going to tell me that in the time that this man has done everything that he's done, that you can point a finger at. He can't close the border. What? He closed the border? What? He can't deport millions? What? He deported millions of people? He can't drop crime? What? He dropped the crime rate in D.C. every time they say, they get it out of their mouth before they can even finish the sentence. Trump's like, next? You know? So please, enlighten me. Show me something that gives you any trend lines. that the Democrats can win in the midterms. Oh, Kevin, they're going to cheat. Donald Trump has done more to stop the Democrats from cheating, and he's not done because he froze their money. The biggest deal was keeping that money out of their pockets. So they can't buy votes. When's the last time Antifa spun up for something or the Black Lives Matter groups or any of the other groups, the Palestinian groups? And, oh, by the way, that bugaboo of the, oh, let's avoid the issues of abortion and things like that. The Democrats don't even have racism. Thank you, SPLC. They don't have abortion to put in their hat, because Roe v. Wade's gone, and now there are no back-alley abortions, and women are still managing to find a way to live in America. So when you take away all that, we're all going to die, you know, if Trump is elected, what do you got? And what happens when you can no longer demonize this guy? You bring up some really, really interesting points. And let me do this. You know, Tallarico is a really interesting case study for me, because if you go back and listen to some of his rhetoric just a few years ago, you're going to see the what the Democrat Party became just insanity with, you know, There's there's 52 different genders or however. I forget. I lose count of how many genders there are. Luckily, where I think we're moving. There's 71. OK, so I think there's only two. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. But, you know, he was saying things like that. You know, somebody asked him, like, who his favorite drag queen was. And I was like, I saw that. Yeah. And I mean, if I were to ask you that, he had a name. He had a name. I wouldn't know one person. I don't know. I only know I only really know one. It's RuPaul. And I don't know that because he's so famous. But is he my favorite? No, he's just the only one I know. Exactly. Yeah. Right. But lately, when you hear Tallarico, he sounds more like like us. Now, is that just because he's in Texas and he's trying to win out there? Or is that the Democrat Party as a whole is trying to come back a little bit from the insanity because they know they're going to lose if they embrace that? Yeah, so there's a video circulating about Tallarico, and they said that one of his church members said that they know that Tallarico has been told to back away from those stances. So the short answer is he's a liar. He's just like the Muslims with Takiyah. They'll tell you what you want to hear to get elected, and then we're all peaceful until they're not peaceful. So Tallarico's a radical. And what's most interesting to me, and this may be one of the most incendiary things I say on your show today, is there are no real men on the left. The men on the left are male hyenas. They're there for breeding. That's it. They're not there to be real men. They don't lead women. In fact, they defer to women. They're the most non-biblical. Again, I'm talking about biblical men. They are not biblical men by any stretch of the imagination. They are eunuchs. They are pawns. in a scheme to emasculate men. And I, my next book is called America at your age. The working title was America grow the F up, but we decided we, we cleaned it up. So my Christian friends can purchase the book, but anyway, it's at your age and it has to do with the emasculation of men. And one of the chapters I talk about the alpha male, I'm an alpha male, you know, I know other alpha males and I know the betas and conservative men are alpha males. We protect women. We protect children. We have a love of, you know, it's faith, family, freedom. And we believe in these things and they're at our core and they don't have to be, you know, ginned up. We see something, we do something. And what Tallarico is, is he's moved around. He You know, he has to test the wind to see which way he's going to go. An alpha male doesn't. You say, Kevin, what do you think about this? Bam, you get an answer. I don't have to go. I wonder how it's going to test. I don't give a crap what you think about my answer. And I say this with all due respect, and I want people not to misconstrue it. I don't care what you think about me. I would like you to think about me in a nice way. But if you ask me, do I give a crap? The short answer is heck to the no, because I'm okay with me. I know the people around me, what I do for them, what I give to the world, what I'm willing to do for, by the way, just so people know, I got fired from Fox because I was actually protecting women who were real victims of sexual abuse. Not those fakes of Blasey Ford and Swetnick and others that talked about their hippocampus and their hypothalamus. I've never heard a victim of sexual assault talk about brain chemistry, right? I've heard them talk about the pain that it felt and the fear of going out in public and being touched by a man and stuff like that. But I've never heard that nonsense. And I dared to say something about that, and it got me fired. And of course, I've been completely vindicated, but I didn't need to be vindicated. Everybody goes, Kevin, do you feel good about being vindicated? No, I don't care. I said what I said. I lost a seven figure deal at Fox because I was getting a show and they asked me to take it back. And I told them that they could go and fornicate with themselves. I'll put it nicely. And because I don't care. And there's not enough money for me to sell my soul to somebody. And the reason was I have four sons. I didn't know one single man ever that walked the earth outside of Jesus who could have gone through that level of scrutiny. Decades old stuff that you might have done to offend a woman or whatever, and you're bringing this stuff up? Ridiculous. And so somebody has to take a stand. And see, that's what alphas do. And what Tallarico is, is he's a beta male. And he he's going to be the new version of, you know, they're they want to paint him as he can get in touch with his sensitive side and all that. Now, what's interesting is a corollary is they tried to bring in Platner in Maine, who was going to be the he's the oyster man. Yeah, he's going to be the real man. And Plattner turned out to be the worst example of their, you know, real man that they wanted to bring in. So, see, the Democrats and the left are trying to figure out what manhood is. But manhood is in your DNA. And you don't need anybody to help you figure it out except a good father and maybe a few good role models. But, you know, and that's down that rabbit hole of let's get back to faith, family and freedom, right? Right. Sure. And you bring up a really interesting point there with, you know, trying to drag your name through the mud. Whenever I see this, actually, when I see the machine come against somebody and maybe they screwed up. And you know what? To err is human. And because of our Christian faith, we know that our entire life is picking up that cross and trying to do better and striving to be more like Jesus and failing and coming back to him and asking for forgiveness. That's the beauty of our Christian faith. Some may not see it as beautiful, but I do, that we have that good father that will forgive us no matter what. When I see somebody get attacked, I'm like, you know, they were probably saying the right thing. And they went in, they put a microscope on them, and they found something to go after them. And so I tend to actually trust people more that the machine has gone after than those that still have a platform that still are squeaky clean, because I know that nobody is. Now, we're at that heartbreak. I'll let you come back and we'll talk a little bit more about this. 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You're over at churchandstate.media. We're going to go right back to our guests, but real quick, I do got to plug one of our awesome affiliates. Chris, I'm thinking coffee. Coffee is amazing. I guarantee you that Kevin drinks coffee and not tea because an alpha male does not drink tea. There's only one acceptable reason to drink tea, and it's if you're really, really sick, maybe unwell, iced tea. I'll give you iced tea, okay? But hot tea, we don't drink that brown garbage water. We drink coffee because we're Americans, because we want hair on our chest. So if you want that, go to Hunter's Blend Coffee. That stuff is absolutely incredible. The owner is a patriot. He's a Christian. And he brings a mean cup of Joe. So go check him out. Use the promo code church and state for a discount and get some of the best coffee out there. And also just one more reminder, please hit the donate button for us. Keep us alive and running. All right. With that, let's go back to our guest, Kevin Jackson. I was talking a little bit about our Christian faith, sir. If you want to comment on the coffee too, I'm sure you probably have some words to say about that. But just talking about our Christian faith. I'm going to give me some Hunter coffee, man. There we go. You need it, right? But I was, I was talking about the importance of Christian faith and how as alpha males, as people that we don't care. Look, we have our true north and our true north is Jesus Christ. And he's the source of all truth. And so if we're pursuing that, I don't care if I'm liked. I really don't. I'm controversial. I understand that. And I accept it. I'm good with who I am as I pursue Christ, right? Or as Paul said, follow me as I follow Christ, right? So that's where I'm at. I know that's where you're at. And I don't see that from the Democrats. Absolutely. No. First of all, you're not controversial. You spit your opinions about things, and I may disagree with some of them. Look, I'm married. My wife and I, I would tell you, we couldn't—in many ways, we're the same, but we are very different people. She's an accountant with an HR background and a legal background. And I'm a stand up. Right. You know, so you can imagine, you know, I'm just I'm fly by the seat. She's probably like, you can't say that from an HR perspective. You can't say that. Oh, I will tell you what my when I did my first big event where I spoke to eight. Now, keep in mind, I've been I'm a management consultant to the largest companies in the world. That's what I did for a living. And I was going to go do a tea party event. I didn't know it was going to be 8,000 people, but Dana Lash let me be the emcee. So I said, here's some material I'm going to do for it. And she was like, oh, I wouldn't say that. And I wouldn't do that one. And by the time she finished with me, man, I was like, you know, I was like a chihuahua trying to pass a peach pit going, I don't think I can say anything. My whole speech was shot. And then finally I went, you know what? This is what I do. You know, this ain't HR and all that. I'm going to go speak in front. I didn't know how many people. I thought it would be hundreds. It was 8,000 people. I'm telling you, the very first thing out of my mouth, people were, yeah, yeah. And I immediately went, okay, she was wrong. It was just flatly wrong. And there's been things like that. I'll give you another one. When I negotiated my deal with Fox, Roger Ailes sent over my deal, and I got it by email from And I'm looking at the number and it was a good number. I mean, I'm not going to lie, but I was like, I'm not working for that. So I sent a note back to the attorney and said, I'm not working for that. So she called me and she, cause I'm thinking it was going to be a lot. I'm thinking it's Fox news. It'll be a lot more than this, even though it was a good amount of money. But she was like, no, no, Kevin. And I said, I'm not working for that. I reject that. And my wife's like, what? You know, you've worked all this time to get to this level and you're going to reject a good offer. I was like, nope. So the attorney goes, well, you can count her. And I go, okay, 5X. And so they came back and go, she goes, you sure? I said, yeah, 5X. I want five times that amount. And my wife's going, you're crazy. So they came back and I think they gave me 50% more. I was like, no, heck no. So I said, 3X. And so anyway, by the time it was said and done, they gave me double what they offered me. And the whole time my wife was panicked and I didn't, I mean, I was like, you know, and she's like, how do you do that? I go, I know what I'm worth. I'm not going to, so funny story. The year after Roger gets canned, Suzanne Scott takes over and they send me the same deal. And I didn't want the 2X. I wanted 5X. So when they go, well, Kevin, here, we're happy to renew your deal. And I was like, what? No, uh-uh, reject it. My wife's like, you're crazy. And I mean, this is solid six figures. And I go, I reject it. And so the attorney goes, Kevin, once we set a deal with the contributor, that's pretty much it. I said, I don't care what you do for other contributors. It ain't the deal for me. So I rejected it. And she came back to me later. She goes, oh, I gave it to Suzanne. And Suzanne said, I really like him. Yeah, let's do it. So they gave me a 31% increase. Wow. And my wife's like, how do you do that? I go, because I know my worth. My thing was, okay, reject me. Look, I'm not the only guy you can hire, but there's a reason why Roger saw my value and why you want me here. So if you want me here, you're going to pay me. And oh, by the way, you're paying Sean a lot more. You're paying all these other people a lot more. So I know you got the money. And I was a pittance. I was a rounding error for them. Pay me. And I made them do it. And then, of course, they fired me two years after that, but still. Sure. But once again, you're bringing up a really good point. The differences between men and women. This is something that the Democrat Party for a while there could not wrap their minds around. But you, you know, you bring skills to the marriage. Your wife brings skills to the marriage or talents or however you want to put it. And you benefit each other. That's the beauty of a good marriage. I say it all the time on my show. If not for my wife, number one, I would have, like, I'd have no idea what was going on in my life. I mean, this woman books everything, you know, like birthday parties, where the kids are. I'm like, oh, I didn't know that, you know. I'll tell you a story. You'll appreciate this, Kevin. My wife just did a surprise birthday for me. We have a shared calendar. I don't ever look at it. I never look at that shared calendar. She actually put the surprise birthday a week before it was going to occur on the shared calendar just to prove a point. And she was right. She was absolutely right. I didn't look. So funny story. My wife puts everything on a kitchen calendar and I'll go, well, when is that? And she won't even, she goes, it's on the calendar. She won't even answer anymore because she hates it. It's on the calendar. But I'm like you. Really? Seriously? Give me an answer. It's Tuesday. Okay, I remember. But if I go look at the calendar, I'm not visual that way. That's just how we learn. But anyway, going back to the biblical men and all that, you're exactly right. Biblical men and alpha males, men who understand what it means to be a man. I'm not talking about being a grunting. You know, everything has got to go your way. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about understanding your role in life and where that counterbalance to you fits your wife, because to be a biblical for a wife to be a biblical wife, you have to earn it as a biblical husband. So, you know, if a man understands that, he knows that he's not a brute. He has to listen to his wife. But when a decision has to be made, my wife will tell you, if there's anything that involves protecting this family, she doesn't have to move. I'm going to be there, the first one in the line of fire. But politically, we've lost that. That's why Trump is such an anathema to the left. Trump's like, I'm willing to be America's caretaker, commander in chief, father, if you will. And I'll take the, you know, oh, he's a racist. Oh, he's a misogynist. Oh, he's a homophobe. Oh, he's OK, fine. Call me whatever you want. And what the beauty of Trump is, what we've just described of ourselves, he doesn't care. It's IDGAF. Sorry, Christians, but you'll figure out what those initials are. But it's really he doesn't give a crap. And that is the way you have to lead. Because other than that, you're just a follower. You're looking for a committee to make decisions for you. When it was time to bomb Iran, bomb them. They got a nuclear program. They're not getting nuked. It's going to have far-reaching implications to not— I mean, Trump doesn't have to care. You know, he's gone in a decade. We're all— two decades, probably most of us listening to this program, we're gone. We don't have to care. But our kids and our grandkids do. I don't want a nuclear Iran. I don't want the threat of nuclear war. I grew up through it with the Cold War and what it did to my psyche. And I don't think kids need to grow up that way. And there are many things that these kids don't need to face. The worst thing happening right now, in my opinion, Caleb, the kids, is this gendering of these kids, you know, taking off their— the girls' breasts and little boys, you And it's not even because the Democrats believe the lie. The left doesn't believe that. They know these kids would figure themselves out. What they want is they want dependent, medically dependent kids for the rest of their lives. And these kids are losing their minds. That's why these transsexuals are shooting people up. They're committing high rates of suicide, all kinds of things, because they're not prepared to do— with the world in the way that you know that god would have them but look at the end of the day i don't care if somebody's gay whatever be who you want to be but you know What they're doing to these kids, making them believe that there are 71 genders and you can pick and choose what you want to be and force people to use your pronouns and all that. The real world, hate to tell you, isn't going to give a crap about you. And I don't care how big you think you are. It only takes one incident in your life to make you this small. And I think that as Christians, as Christ followers, we understand that. You know, I was on the theoretical mountaintop politically when you get on Fox. I remember I was a big deal for everybody that I was on Fox. And I told people, balance your expectations. That's not that big of a deal. In the scheme of things, it's another. In fact, I'm more accomplished in my life outside of Fox than I ever was getting on that show. you know, in terms of what I've been able to accomplish. So we just have to understand that where we fit, I'll tell people my kind of my quick philosophy. The two most important days of your life, the day you were born and the day that you find what you were born to do. And we are fortunate. Maybe this is, I know when God whispers to me all time, all day, and it speaks to me when I'm doing these interviews and in my show and in my works, And I know what I was born to do, be a messenger for what he has put inside of me to give to the world. And as I mentioned to you beforehand, I'm not here to make anybody think like me. I want the people listening to this program to listen to what I say, and then ask yourself, what about me inspired you to think bigger or better about yourself? That is the gift that we do every day, five days a week. And And twice on Sunday, I guess, right, Caleb? Amen. It's a fantastic philosophy, sir. You know, and that's something that I'm always striving to do on this show is, look, don't listen to me. Do your own homework. You know, there's so many of these commentary shows out there. I'm just one. You're just one. And we're speaking our opinion about things. We're doing the research. Yeah, we're not coming in here and just spouting off. No, we're living it. I mean, you and I both live in the political machine. We study it. And then we bring our opinions to it. And if people disagree, awesome. But why do you disagree? Start doing your own research. Be an independent thinker. I think that's one of the most important messages we can possibly bring is to be an independent thinker. Don't just accept what MSNBC or even Fox News is just saying. Just take the issue and weigh all the facts and come to a conclusion and then get out there and do something about it. I think that's the most important thing out there. I want to bring up your two websites because I want people to follow you. I've been really enjoying this conversation. And so the first one that I want to bring up is the BlackSphere.net. And I'd love for you to just tell the audience, you know, what this is. It's news, obviously. But what is it and why did you name it the Black Sphere? Yeah, everybody thinks it's racial, but it's not. It has nothing to do with race. So my degrees are in electrical engineering, computer science and math. So when I talked about developing a political entity, if you will, the sphere is the most voluminous object in space. So it holds the most information. And the blackness of it, I think of as a black hole. And the idea was there's ideas inside of this black sphere that's a black hole. Is your idea strong enough to penetrate a black hole? That was the first thing. The second part of it is a sphere is an interesting object because everywhere there's an equal and opposite side to a sphere. You put a point in space, there's an equal and opposite side to that point. But in a sphere where you're at the very center is where there is only that spot. There is no equal and opposite at the dead center of the sphere. So that's what it was about, that when you're framing an argument, I always go to the opposite side. And I asked myself, can I convince myself that this person believes what they believe? If you said to me, Joe Biden was greatest president ever, I wouldn't just go, oh, that's crazy talk. Now, there's a part of me that knows it is. Right. But I would say, OK, I'm going to adopt that. I'm going to ask myself if that's the case. And I'm going to make this is all happening in a split second in this big, beautiful brain of mine, not paid for by Mexico, by the way. And I'm going to ask myself, is Joe Biden the best president ever? Defend it. And if I can't defend it, and then I start looking at all the periphery around it, of course, I already think something different, but I know what that is. So I asked myself, why would somebody think that? And then I have to go find the evidence. And what happens is it usually ends up bolstering my own feelings. So that was why I was born. And it was meant to be Everything I do, I call it comedy with a purpose. Now, what do I mean by that? I don't want to just tell jokes. I tell jokes that make you think about that political situation. Because I hide the truth inside of that humor. And I've learned that that's the best way to do it. Some people use it as ridicule. A lot of it comes through in hypocrisy, irony, ridicule, and some other elements of comedy and humor and things like that. But it's really meant to showcase that inside of that joke is a very serious thing. And I have a way, the way I write humor is kind of like Dave Chappelle, where he You know, he did the black racist dude who was the— Oh, the blind one. Yeah. Yeah, the blind guy that led the KKK. I mean, that's the type of humor to me that makes people go, what? You know, where you see the hypocrisy, the irony, and you get the joke, but what he's really saying is funny. Or the family that their name was spelled, the N-I-G-G-A-R-S family. If you remember that, that that was hysterical because it forced people to come to grips with something that we say all the time. Right. Or, you know, or that is taboo. But he made it to where it wasn't taboo because that was the family's name. That's the type of humor that I like to put forth and what I do and make people think. So if you like that and you just don't want the news, that's what you would be getting over at the Black Sphere dot net. Now, my other website, thekevinjacksonnetwork.com, was meant to be a complete... Cause people would meet me through radio and they'd only think I do radio. Then they'd meet me through at a speech and they think, Oh, he's just a public speaker. I've never heard of, or they'd meet me because I did a hit on a show like yours and they'd go, I, I don't know who he is, but, or they find out that I make movies. I have a movie studio. Oh, I didn't know he made movies or they'd find, you know, they didn't know that I was a kickboxer or that I was a business consultant. So we put everything together and, And this kind of one area where you could just see all of me. Enjoy. You get all of me there. And so that's essentially what it is. Now, three time bestselling author, fellow at the Robert J. Dole Institute, former kickboxer. You know, our merch is there. My film is there. My nonprofit seeking educational excellence. me speaking. I've got my movie streaming theater, my books. So, you know, it was a way for if you go, oh, I found Kevin, but I didn't know he did all this. So that was what it was meant to be. Excellent. Well, I have so enjoyed the interview. We'll definitely have to have you back. We went a little bit long audience. I apologize for that. But Kevin, I've got to go ahead and close this out. If you hold on one more minute post-production to say our goodbyes, I'd appreciate it. But thank you so much for your time here and your work as well. Oh, my pleasure. It was a great, great time. You actually do just listen, which is interesting. I think that's my role, honestly, as a journalist. I got to listen to my guests. So, hey, pleasure having you on. Closing out here, ladies and gentlemen, look, go check out this man. It's a fantastic show here, Kevin Jackson. I'm going to be a listener. I've really enjoyed it. And I want you to check out the website, thekevinjacksonnetwork.com and theblacksphere.net. Please go check it out. 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