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I appreciate the presence here and in the being, in the presence of God. Right if two of more are gathered in there in His name, he is here with us. So we welcome God with us today, and such a blessing to be out here trying to educate the people. I truly believe that God has empowered me, given me this incredible mind to comprehend complex things, and I've been accused of being able to break things down. So Grandma can understand it. I like that. I like that. Plus two marines getting together, you never know what's going to happen. When two marines get together, something's probably going to get destroyed. And in this case, let's hope that it's tyranny that's going to be destroyed. Absolutely, let's expose it. And you know that's part of my mission statement there about following due process of law. You know, the Second Amendment does have its purpose, but there's a process that is due and even Blackstone lays it out for vindication of the rights and reference to the laws of nature and those fundamental rights you know we normally refer to as life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. Well, property is also in there. But he says for a vindication of these rights, we have to petition the judicial, then petition the legislature, and then if we don't get our relief it's demanded, then we can take up arms, which is actually in the Declaration of Independence. We have petitioned in the most humble manner and have been met with repeated injuries. So you know, this is the key due process of law. My brother Tony Pellegrino, he calls me k due process of law Pendergrass. So I'm all about the process that is due in the you know, the least violence involved, because I do not advocate for violence, even though you know, I'm a marine. What were we trained to do? You know? But that's the last resort should always be a last resis and then fundamentally and principally, the least amount of force necessary to achieve the goal. Yeah, I'm all for that sounds very libertarian, and this approach non aggression principles, which everybody watches this show knows that I talk about quite frequently. Before we get into the whole due process, I'd love to hear a little bit of a backstory. I'm sure my audience is interested. How you got into this. You saw a need and instead of like the vast majority of the normal people who said the government ought to do something, you said, now I think I'm going to do something about this. Yeah. For me, you know, at a very young age of fourteen or just before I turned fourteen, a month before I turned fourteen there in nineteen eighty five, i was the child kidnapped by CPS, and so I've experienced the corruption within government at a very young age, and you know they lie. I am like, that's not what I imagined at you know, fourteen years old, how our government would be in these people acting that way. And then I, you know, at what nineteen there, I joined the Marine Corps and from there experiencing as an adult the actual corruption within government and how they unlawfully arrest people and violate our rights to do process of law and this kind of stuff, and basically sitting in a jail cell. In nineteen ninety five, I made a vow to God and said, look, I'm going to start studying law so that I don't get screwed like this again. I had no idea that it would turn into what it has turned into. You know, I've experienced the family court stuff, just the massive amount of lives that happened and is allowed. I mean, when's the last time we've prosecuted perjury? How about when is the first time? You know, why isn't perjury being prosecuted. It's a felony and it's a fundamental principle of God's law thou shalt not bear false witness. So in there about round, well, basically in nineteen ninety five I started studying, you know, basic the statutes and a little bit of the Constitution. You know, I was taught the Constitution in ninth grade in nineteen eighty seven. And then you know, as you well know, in Marine Corps they teach us the Constitution. Half of us slept through it, but you know, because we're so beaten tired. But you know, I'm just like, wait a minute. You know, I took an oath to this stuff to support and defend this as you did, and many others, not just the Marine Corps, all of us take that. And technically speaking, every public servance is required presumed Articles six Claus three, whether you're legislative, executive, or judicial, both state and federal are bound to support the Constitution. You know, like table legs support the table top. You don't get to dictate what's on top of the table. They're just bound to support it. And so this leads into corruption, tyranny, subversion of law, and even treason. So that's kind of how I got my start in all this. And then I just had a gentleman talked to him on the phone one day and he's like, Hey, how would you like to have your own radio show? And I started on blog talk radio and he is the one that said, hey, you know, I'm hearing stuff that I've never heard from any law guru, and I'm breaking stuff down so grandma can understand it. So that's how I got started doing broadcasting and podcasts. And you know, believe it or not, I was a little bit shy back then. I didn't I want to show my face or that I was reluctant. But here I am now, you know, ten years later, and very fluent doing podcasts and I do my own podcast weekly Monday night law I have my Wednesday night workshop, which is a private class for Patreon. You know. I found this guy, Carl Miller, not sure if you're familiar with him, back in twenty fourteen, and he's a military veteran in which he recently passed away here a couple of years ago. Now, great man trying to do the same thing, educated to the people, and he made the comment the statement that hey, somebody ought to do something about that, be as somebody. And at that time, I'm sitting there running my own mechanic shop, and I'm like, man, I'm starting to get a little old. I don't know how good my memory is, you know, at this particular point, I mean, not fairly good memory, but because he's like, oh, you have to memorize this stuff, you know, like you're your social Security number or whatever. In the military. You got to rattle stuff off off the top of your head. And he's like, that's the same thing. You got to learn the law. You have to learn your rights so that you can speak the law. Be a law Say you're a real law You're is one who is knowledgeable on the law. One who speaks the law is a law sayer. That's a real lawyer. So you know, even God tells us our tongue is sharper than a double leedged sword. So I even have a my dad's broadsword, big huge sort, double leedged sort, And I've used that as a prop before because I associate that broadsword gets a double leedged sword. And I've asked, you know that the people there, and say, hey, can I get any anybody to come up and volunteer for me to wield this double edged sword on them? And I have not yet had one that would come up and let me know, wield this double edged sword on them. So take this as an analogy of knowledge is power. If you know what your rights are. You can speak those rights the law and I have experienced this, you know, it literally cuts people down. But this is in the spiritual realm. This is a spiritual battle. You know. We got words like spelling, we spell out the word. We're casting a spell when we write these documents or when we speak the law, we're casting a spell in the spiritual realm to convict the man's mind, whether it's the judge or the police officer, prosecutor even your neighbor. Right, so we have to be very mindful of the words that we use, how we speak to our fellow man, just even as a family member or neighbor, because words can cut people and it could hurt sometimes. So I've had to learn a few life lessons and be a little bit kinder. You know, I'm not perfect, but that's life, right, We're supposed to live and learn. And one of the ones that I learned is what's the old saying, is A learned something new every day. The other part of it is, well, what I learned today is what I learned yesterday was wrong. So we can learn to recognize our own wrongs and correct those. That's that's integrity. Yeah, So that's how I started at all. Thank you. I appreciate you filling the audience in on why you're so passionate about this issue. So let's get into this a little bit because I think most of the audience is going to be pretty familiar with the term law fare, and we're currently experiencing that the vast majority of us in some manner have been victims of law fair. You've brought up examples actually of you know, when's the last time we actually prosecuted someone for perjury as a great point, because most of the time, and even on television you can see it turns just lying outright, and they should be prosecuted for something like that. So let's get into some applications here of understanding your rights, knowing where they came from. I really want to break this down with you because this is your statements here, and then how to utilize them. Okay, so what's what's the you know, I guess the multimillion dollar question always is, well, what can we do first knowledge? So let's talk about what our rights are and where they come from. Now, when we're talking about law, law as a right, which actually comes from the French word droit meaning law or right. So the first law is God's law, which is also known as the laws of nature. Now, if we read Decoration of Independence, it says, right, the laws of nature and Nature's God, and among these rights the government is instituted to secure these rights. And among these rights is like liberty and in pursuit of happiness. Then we go to law Law of Nations by M. Er D. Bettel, and the full title of law of Nations is the law of nations or the principles of the Laws of Nature as applied to the conduct of nations. Ooh, so that's the first fundamental law. And as Blackstone in his commentaries puts in there right after we were just talking about the vindication of rights and stuff, he makes the statement that any man made law that comes in conflict with the laws of nature is void for any effect. So even a constitution is man made law. So even if the constitution comes in conflict with the laws of nature, it would be void for any effect because that's man made law. So that's where our natural rights come from. And not to be confused with natural law. Even Blackstone enumerates or elucidates that and says, don't confuse the two natural law is still man made. And that's in an attempt to subvert the actual laws of nature as God intended. So in a way, I call that bar speak or word salad from the bar. They try to twist things and change things, and you know, and it's it's it's so corrupt the whole system. And this is worldwide. If we take into account the laws of nature, that's supposed to be applicable everywhere, the whole world is you know Blackstone talks about and is commentaries there. This is applicable into the whole world. This should be the fundamental law. And then with the intent of establishing government is to secure those rights. You know, a lot of people don't even realize it. We talk about state like a state constitution, it's a state of being. Read your preamble, that's the preamble. Is the intent of the people to create government. And a lot of them will say, we're grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of liberty, you know, to secure these we're bordaining or establishing this constitution, which is the instrument of government itself. And then we get into you know, political rights. Now, when we people say civil rights, that's roman civil law. Which are actually privileges, you know, Fourteenth Amendment privileges and immunities. No, these are god given rights, natural rights. And then we have political rights. But there's that fundamental law which Blackstone talks about and Montesquieu talks about the Law of Nations talks about, is these three bodies of law. You have the Roman civil law, you have feudal law, and then you have common law. Now, the origin of the common law was actually from the Saxons, which were the Christian Protestants, and it was maxims of law and traditions. So when we look at that maxim, what's a maximum of law, Well, that's a rule of law, and it's also, as Blackstone says, the common sense law. So I always use the analogy, Hey, this is common sense stuff. Do you have to hit your thumb with a hammer to know that it's going to hurt? Because if you're that type of a man that you actually have to hit your thumb with a hammer to know that it's going to hurt, you lack common sense. You're not of sound mind. So you know these things. It just it's it's complicated if you don't know, if you haven't read, because reading means reading. And if you don't have this knowledge, we have no power. But once you have the power, you have to learn how to wield that power. Just like the double leedged sword, you know, that's a big broad sword. Put somebody into battle that's never practiced wielding that sword. How good are they going to do in battle? They're probably going to cut their own leg off? Right, So this is the key, is how to effectively defend ourselves following due process of law. So not only do you have to learn your rights, you have to learn how to speak them. And then you've got to figure out learn what the process is that is due because that's what due process of law really is. So what's the law say that the process is that is due to whoever it is you're dealing with, because sometimes if you're dealing with an elected official, there's a process that's due to them. It's called the impeachment process. That's what our founders put into our form of government because of the way things were happening with the king coming in and you know, basically wiping out an entire legislature of the people and then putting his own people in. Well, that's they put said, no, you got to go through this process to remove them, and this is to protect the people in their official capacity from being arbitrarily removed. So it all depends on who you're dealing with, what the process is. And due process of law is synonymous with law of the land. They're one and the same. They mean the same thing. So when we say due process of law, we have to look for the process from the constitution or the common law of the land, because the common law is the fundamental law, including the Constitution. The law of Nations is part of the common law, so which the Roman civil law is opposed to because it's a different it's a foreign jurisdiction. And the Declaration of Penance even talks about being subjected to a jurisdiction that is foreign to our constitution, unacknowledged by our law, and given his assent to their pretended acts of legislation. That is precisely what we're dealing with again today. It's been throughout history, this Roman civil law from the Roman Catholic Church, Catholicism as an ideology versus Christianity as an ideology from the Saxons, that this is. This is what I have discovered in my research reading and studying law and the history of law. This isn't the first time we've been here. This has happened many times, go back to four hundred BC. Sure. So fundamentally, we need to transform our minds as American citizens to that knowledge base that our rights don't come from government, Our rights don't come from anyone other than God. And these are I like using the term unalenable right because you cannot put a lean upon those rights. And that's really what it comes down to. Even myself, I cannot give up my God given rights. I cannot put a lean against those. And so for the American citizen, we need to stop with the term constitutional rights. I hate that term, I really did. It bugs me. No, they are God given rights and no person, no government can ever take those away from us. Absolutely. You know. There it is. It's the knowledge is power lack the knowledge. And I was just talking about last night on my Monday Night Law, I've been thinking about the movie Idiocracy, right, you know Brondo. I'm wearing the Brondo shirt. It's got electrolytes. Yeah, there it is perfectos. What a coincidence. He The fact is is that's where we're at. And if you read Salolenski's rules for radicals. One of the eight elements of taking down a nation is to take over the education. So we pur on purpose with intent to dumb down the people so far, including our legislators, including our sheriffs, governors, you know, everybody. So this is where you know, God had a little epiphany for me. It's like, well, wait a minute, we've all been lied to, So that helped calm my anger, you know, at the corruption and these people, you know, doing what they're doing. They truly believe that they're following the law because that's what they were taught. So that this is where we're at. We're an idiocracy. I mean, it's so bad, Kirk. We're literally wearing crocs right now, Like come on, people, like right, that was a joke from idiocracy and now you all are wearing it. It's like it's come true. It wasn't supposed to be a documentary, but here we are baseball. But that's the key. They're taking advantage of our lack of knowledge. And even God tells us my people shall shall perish for a lack of knowledge. That's that's the truth God is telling us. Hey, and if you read that particular part of the Bible regarding what he's referring to. He's referring to our rights from God. So if we don't know these rights, we can be taken advantage of, we can be railroaded, we can be you know, subject to tears, any despotism. No, you're absolutely right. That knowledge is going to be that power, all right. So we've gotten to that. I hope the audience has come to the same conclusion that you and I have. These are God given rights. So now that we have that knowledge, how do we apply it? You have to claim it. It's really that simple. You speak the law. I have this right, like the right of personal liberty, consists in the power of locomotion, of you know, changing situations going. They sometimes refer to it as freedom of movement. Right, what man on this planet has any higher authority over another man? So if we don't have that parent, here's a maximum of law. What I cannot do in my person I cannot do through the agency of another. So fundamentally and principally, as a maximum of law, if I can't do it, I can can't ask another man to do it. And I always use the analogy of okay, murder is unlawful? Right, do we need a statute that says murder is unlawful? Or do we have the common sense that that is morally wrong and evil? Because it says thou shalt not commit murder. That's a one of the ten commandments. I mean, come on. So the thing is is, okay, can I can I contract with another man lawfully contract with another man to commit murder? Well as well? If you if you, if you work for the government, maybe, but. I'm saying lawfully full of law, no, we cannot, because I can't do that in my person. Therefore, I can't delegate a power to somebody else to act on my behalf, whether it's as the community as a whole what we would consider government and instituting government to secure these rights to be free from murder. How then can we delegate them a power that allows them to commit murder? But it's just fundamentally and principally as a as a part of the bedrock, cannot do that. If I can't do it, we can't delegate that power to somebody else to do it. Now, Kirk, that's that separation, right, the common sense laws you're talking about murder or theft. Right, These are things we don't need a government entity to tell us this is wrong. We instinctually know it, we can see it. But then we get into the other laws that get passed, like you can't collect rainwater that is now illegal right to where it's like, how does that make any sense whatsoever? So let's deal with some of those ones, because I think the audience is going to be curious, and I know we're coming down to a heartbreak here in a little bit, but we're gonna keep going on with this because I'm gonna ask you some pointed questions about some of the things that have been really annoying me as of late. But just with what I just said, murder yes, okay, collecting rainwater no. Right? I mean, where's the authority granted to regulate the people to dictate to the people. First of all, where does the rain come from? Does the government create the rain? I don't think the cloud seating has gotten that good yet, but give it time. I mean, technically speaking, sure, they've manufactured something that creates clouds that causes it to rain, and then spraying chemicals in the air to cloud seat and cause it to rain. But you're utilizing something that God created. Right, and then the second part is, well, you're on private property, and what I do on my private property is none a government's business. We did not delegate government power to regulate the people in the private, only corporations that are acting in commerce. That's the number one fundamental principle. So it's not we'd use logic and reason here. Where did you get the authority to dictate to mankind anything? Where's that power delegated? It's not exactly. It's a great point. Entertained by the people and prohibited by the people. Amen to that. All right, Well, ladies and gentlemen, we've hit that heartbreak. Are you aware that the Holy Word of God tells us to eat beef? 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I think it's forty five dollars or something like that in order for us to do this little background check. I'm sorry, with the advancements of the NSA and the TSA and all this stuff, they already know exactly who I am. The amount of cameras as soon as I park my car on the airport property and start walking to the airport. They already know exactly who I am. Why do I need this national ID? That's quite the conundrum. Right on one hand, it's, oh, it's about safety and you know, protection of the people. Well, my first question is is how well has that work since it's been implemented? And then gee, what do we do in the seventeen hundreds or the eighteen hundreds for picture ID? See, this is the thing, is what the census is supposed to be for. Is that tells us who's who, whether you're an inhabitant or you're one of the people or you're an actual citizen, which is a member of the legislative execut of a judicial branch. Now, my brother Tony Pellegrino, he actually did his own affidavit of status and recorded that with the county Recorder's office and then turned around and got a certified copy of that. He has actually used that to get on a plane and fly from California to Pennsylvania. And that was a few years ago. But you know, at first, the person that was standing there was like, well, I don't know about this, and somebody come over to higher up, you know, and looked at that and said, yeah, that's that's got a seal on it from the county Recorder's office. That's a legitimate state issue. ID doesn't have to have a picture. So but I also am aware that legislation has been made through Congress to slowly phase out the TSA. So you know, our right to travel comes from the right of personal liberty. So I mean, how about like Uber, let's let's use Uber for an instance, or a taxicab, right, taxicab probably would be better. You hail a taxicab, do you have to provide identification to get into the taxicab? No? Why would I should be applicable as a fundamental principle, The same thing with getting on a plane or a train should be the same thing. I don't need to provide any state issued identification because technically speaking, we the people require public servants. Public servants to have proper identification upon demand of the people. And this is where the law gets twisted. Well, when a police officer stops you and demands identification from you, you're required to produce that. No, no, no. When one of the people comes in contact with a public servant, they're required to have state issue picture ID to identify themselves in an official capacity so we know what their name is, full name. They're required to produce that so that we know who's name to put down on a criminal complaint or a civil complaint or a petition to the legislature. Okay, that's what that should be done. That's how that should be done, is that they are required to have that in their official capacity. If I'm not in any official capacity, how would I have to have ID. What kind of idea would I have? I'm not in any official capacity. I don't identify as any public servant that is bound by the constitution or any statutes or policy, because that's what that really is. Then we go to American Juris Curtins, Volume sixteen, Constitutional Law, Section two. Statutes are for government civil conduct. It is to control their conduct. And the fact is that statutes are not submitted to the people for their approbation, so then there's no consent to be governed by statutes. I like this, So let's continue down this vein and let's make my audience dangerous, shall we. That sounds kind of fun. And let's specifically tackle what I was just talking about with the TSA and this national idea. But let's also since you run it up, let's cover getting a ticket, let's cover getting pulled over. What are the proper steps your recommendations for anyone in these two situations, knowing their rights, having that knowledge, that power, and then applying it to either one of these circumstances. Well, here we go again, brainwashing and doctrine. We don't even know what our rights are. The right of personal liberty, the right to acquire, possess and the free use of private property. That's one of the three primary absolute rights from the laws of nature. Right that right to life, the right of personal security, there's five different elements there, personal liberty, and then private property. So the thing is is, I have recently discovered this in the last six months, is the Federal Motor Carriers Safety Act FMCSA. It's in the United States Code Code of Federal Regulations. This properly identifies what a motor vehicle is because fundamental and principally you do not there's no motor vehicle manufacturer. There are vehicle manufacturers. So where does motor vehicle come from? That's under Commerce Article one, section eight clause three, so tenth Amendment that power was delegate to Congress, and Joseph's story and his commentaries on the Constitution talking about the Article one, section eight clause through the Commerce clause, he specifically states that commerce undoubtedly is traffic. So then the first thing is knowledge is power. What the heck is traffic? Oh, Traffic is the transportation of what passengers or property in either foreign, interstate or intra state commerce. And under the FMCSA specifically states that there is a cooperative agreement between all of the states. Annually they must submit their agreement that all of their policy statutes regulations regulating commerce in this matter, this subject that they're all substantially in compliance with the federal regulations. So you go in there and read the FMCSA and what does it talk about? What a motor vehicle is, what a driver is, which is connected to a common carrier. Found it right in my own Idaho Constitution under corporations. So knowing this, this changes the game because the requirement for a driver's license, they're all commercial and there's only supposed to be a Class AB in C. There is no such thing as a Class D commercial driver's license because it's all commerce. Can't regulate the people, doesn't apply to the people. The people didn't delegate their power to regulate natural God given rights from the laws of nature fundamentally and principally. So on a federal level, they're telling all of the states you have to be in compliance with this. And when you get in there, it talks about a truck and a bus under a Class C commercial driver's license. Under what a bus is it includes taxi cabs. Well wait a minute, Well we're told we got to have this Class D in the States, a Class D driver's license in order to utilize our private property. Well, that's the difference between travel and transportation, which I have discovered in my own Idaho Code highways and bridges, and then I discovered the Transportation Department IDO Transportation mantment. Well found that in the United States Code, what was the legislative intent? It was Congress that created all transportation departments and for the purposes of creating highways, interstate highways and bridges. No wonder why I found the creation of the IDO Transportation Department under highways and bridges. Well, wait a minute. When you read that, it says the streets and highways are created for the purposes of travel and transportation. So some people are confused about this right to travel, when that real right is the right of personal liberty and the right to acquire, possess and the pre use of private property. Now, Hail versus Hinkle is a very good case to read. We have no duty to the state to open up our books and papers on suited the state or our neighbor. Our rights are long and accede into the formation of the state. Right our rights come from God, which is long before we created government. So how can government, any man made law paullics see, come in conflict with those rights? And if they do it's void for any effect from the data was created, not from the day. We go to court and brand it is unlawful and unconstitutional. So again this goes back to having the knowledge of the right and effectively claiming that right, exercising that right, and effectively defending it by speaking, this is my right. What is it you're claiming is law that is in conflict with this right? And then we do the constitutional challenge to that so called statute when it's all regulations, which is all promulgated under the Administrative Procedures Act, which was implemented in nineteen forty six, all orchestrated and perpetrated by the American Bar Association. I have the documentation to prove this. Oh, this is to better and sure justice. And no, you're subverting due process of law. You're allowing you're transferring legislative power to the executive branch under an executive agency. Well wait a minute, that's how a monarchy works, because the legislative and executive is joined in our republic, which is a confederatecy a confederate republic. We're not a democracy and we're not an aristocracy. And there are three types of republics. Aristocracy, democracy, and confederacy. We are a confederate republic, not a constitutional republic. Constitutional republic doesn't exist. Read Monscue in his Spirit of Laws. Read The Law of Nations by m. Er D. Bettel. It doesn't exist. That's not a proper designation of a republic. So that's you know that Again, knowledge is power. We don't have this knowledge we can and effectively defend ourselves from the tyranny, from the despotism and things that just don't apply to us or should not apply to us, and is foreign jurisdiction. It is foreign to the Constitution, it's foreign to our law, you know, unacknowledged by our law. Well, what is common law is our law? So sure, right, I mean honestly, like, I know I've learned a lot here and I know my audience has probably learned a lot, and there's a lot more for people to learn. And so I want to bring up your website actually is where we're kind of winding down the interview here, Kirk's Law Corner, and you can find it at Kirkslawcorner dot com. There it is right there. Chris has brought it up for us. Tell us just you know, thirty seconds. Here. What people can expect is they're going to their web to your website. Go ahead, sir. The very first thing is is there's a I have a free educational series, and if you scroll down just a little bit, there's the first one linked to my YouTube channel where these this free educational series is at. So you know, it's sixteen plus hours. I've added a couple of other videos in there talking about the laws of nature. There's two different ones there that's in addition to the original eight. But start at the beginning. Learn the history of law number one, number two, learn about some basic documents. Now, keep in mind, I did these like seven years ago, and I have learned so much since I've done those, But the fundamental principles that are in those videos are valid. Definitely, learn some more about doing different kinds of paperwork, how to effectively defend ourselves following due process of law. And from there, I have the library tab and there's all sorts of books links to stuff in there, starting with the Treatise on Arrest and False Imprisonment. Yep, there you go, and that is an exceptional read. It is mind blowing. You can learn so much from reading that Treatise on Arrest and False Imprisonment. It is paramount you want to gain some knowledge about how things are corrupt and the history of case law that's in there. It also gives you the document documents, a complaint, summons and a complaint and a memorandum of law built right into that Treatise on Arrest and False Imprisonment. And then from Charles Wiseman the same book there to the second is the Authority of Law. This talks about legislative authority and the powers, the limitations of what they can actually make legislation on, and how it's supposed to be done again due process of law. What is the process and making legislation? And then I believe the third one there is the Law of Nations. That's the calm part of the common law. In fact, I just recently shared a video from Virginia Law School out there saying, look, the Law of Nations is part of the common law. It's applicable. It's in Article one, Section eight, clause ten that Congress has the authority to make legislation for violations of the Law of Nations. And then the fourth one there the Report of the Commission on Unleenable rights. Boy, is that such a good read? And I'm kicking myself on the butt because I've not read the entire thing, but it's for me. It's like, oh, I get it. A lot of this stuff I'm already well aware of, and I could have written that based on the knowledge that I already have and what I've already taught out here. So those four things right there is a very good start into it. And then of course the next section there again, I'm a logical man in a chronological order of things. Then you get into legislative procedures. The real law is that lex Parliamentary Americana, the practice in the legislative assemblies. It's the law and practice of legislative assemblies in the United States of America. There's the common law. Then the one to the right there is Mason. That's actually the twenty ten edition of Mason's Manual Legislative Procedure, which I read that entire book that basically fits in the palm of my hand in two and a half hours, so it's a pretty easy read. But it keeps referencing this cushions, cushions almost on every single page. So I'm like, okay, maybe I ought to go find this cushions thing, and that's where I discovered Lex Parliamentary America NA. So really, Mason's Manual Legislative Procedure is the bar subversion of the real law found in Lex Parliamentary Americana. Then I've got the Jefferson's Manual there, which was one of the very first ones done in our republic. And then I believe I can't I can't quite remember well. That mean, but we're winding down here, said, there's a lot of information on your website and I want to point everybody to it so they can utilize all of the different resources that are free on your website here. So I also do want to bring up a toll en' role as well. If you go to toll endrole dot com, ladies and gentlemen, this is a great website as well. Kirk, you are a delegate for this organization, but you're doing a lot to fight for the rights of American citizens. Absolutely. So, So there you go, ladies and gentlemen, tole endrole dot com and then of course Kirkslawcorner dot com as well, both great websites for you to have an understanding of what your rights are, how to apply them, how to utilize them, especially as our government gets more and more tyrannical. Kirk, it's been a pleasure having you on Church and State. I really appreciate your time and all the work that you're doing to secure our freedoms. Thank you, Cale, Thank you for having me on again, and really enjoy hanging out with you guys. You guys are really good people and God. Bless Thank you, sir, God bless you as well. I'm gonna go ahead and close us out if you hold on one more minute post production to Sarah goodbyes. I appreciate it, but again, thank you for your time there. You are, ladies and gentlemen, Kirk's law corner, understanding your rights, knowing where they come from, and then how to apply them. 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