Church & State -Mike Arnold, Flipping the Global Narrative on the Nigerian Genocide

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I know, my time on the city council, I absolutely loved it. I loved representing the people. I really took the job. And even though it was, you know, lower level government, I really took it to where I have a response ability here. Did you have a similar experience there? Yeah, you know, great responsibility. My little community which is not too far west of Austin, Texas, which is like Sodom Gomora on the Colorado River, so we have a surprisingly for a small rural Texas town, have a very strong left wing contingent that is nasty and just vicious and slanderous. I mean, it was like wading through a cesspool to get some good things done on the. Other side of it. But there was a lot of it that you know, I felt called to do it, and so you know, I did it with all my strength and got a lot of good things done, and on the balance, it was definitely. Something worth doing. Absolutely, I just want to say to the audience, run run for office, like it's a great opportunity for you. You're going to learn so much about how politics in America works and be able to benefit the people that you've been elected to represent. So, Mike, I want to go into you know this, this what's going on in Nigeria, because we just don't seem to hear much about it in America, and I don't entirely know why that's the case. I guess the Nigerian government has done a good job of a cover up, but our focus seems to be elsewhere. It seems to be on Ukraine or what's going on in Israel. That Iran, certainly we've seen genocides that we've paid attention to Rwanda, for example, but for some reason, Nigeria, just America, we don't think about what's going on there. No, that's absolutely true. There's a number of reasons. I'm liking it to a reverse Wakanda. You know, the fictional country from the Marvel Universe has this force field around it so people can't really see what's underneath it. Nigeria is similar. What Americans need to know is that Nigeria is the sixth largest nation on Earth today, by far, the largest Black country on Earth. It has about a quarter of the African population in that one country. It's on track because of their youth. The average age is just over eighteen. They're on track to be the third largest nation on Earth by twenty fifty. So it's giant. It's one of the top. Five oil producing and exporting nations on Earth. It has about a trillion dollars one thousand billion dollars in mineral reserves, and it's the future minerals, the lithium and the rare earth elements as such. And their media, their movie industry makes more films than Hollywood. You've seen them and you don't even probably know it, and their music industry dominates the streaming charts. So it's this powerhouse, a behemoth really that's on track to have an even greater impact than the world. But you're right, it's kept under wraps. One thing I've seen and I just hate to say it, but it's true. It's because they're black and it's an Africa, and people tend to dismiss that. But it's also intentional because so many global forces that were up against have made it their headquarters and operated there with immunity for a long time. It is according to General Michael Langley, who was the head of africam our African Command. Last year in front of Congress, he said, it's the epicenter of global terror. Isis al Qaeda, these international jihad groups have headquartered there and they're being supported by the Chinese, who are looting as many as a nine billion or more dollars a year in minerals. That's according the Nigerian government. Zone numbers nine. Billion a year, and it is funding the jihad and the corruption to cover it up. The globalists. Also, it was very specifically and intentionally Barack Obama, as part of his Air of Spring that handed Nigeria to the radical Islamist who had always been there, but he gave them the full control and that's what unleash to this jihad. So there's elements within. Our own government at the very top even today that are trying to suppress and hide what's going on there. So there's so much as a major narrative war taking place. I was just threatened with a laws through today by the Sultan of Sokoto, the head of a two hundred year old caliphate. This guy's pope and king to one hundred eight million Muslims and he's threatening to sue me. So there's a very aggressive narrative war to cover it all up and hide it so people don't notice the genus. One hundred and twenty five thousand Christians killed mercilessly brutally in the last decade or so. Ten million are so displaced, unable to go home, and that's a byproduct of this Islamic jihad conquest, and we know nothing about it. Most Americans can't. We find that jury on a map, and that's a big mistake. I would completely agree. And there we go. We got breaking news on church and state. You're getting sued obviously that means you're doing something right now. Your story is rather fascinating to me. You were brought over there as an observer and no offense meant at this at all. But they expected you to be kind of a useful idiot on this one. They'd show you. They kind of give you the tour. Look, everything's great, it's wonderful here. And during a press conference like you just like told them to pound sand, like you've cut the microphone and you were just spitting truth. I'm sure there were probably some risks associated with doing something like that. Absolutely. Yeah, they called me. It was October fifth, Sunday morning. I was in Bible study. I got a call from the National Security Advisor of Nigeria and a man who's the president of Nigeria spin doctor. He's now an. Ambassador of Nigeria. They were on the phone. They called me, Oh, we need your help. This was right after Bill Maher started talking about the Nigerian Christian genocide. They was starting to bubble up in people's awareness and they were panicking because you know, the force field was wearing thin. And I've been a missionary there since twenty ten. I've been there sixteen total times. I've built schools and these displacement camps for these for these children that can't go home, and they reached out to me, thought I'd be the Jane Fond of Nigeria, and there was a whirlwind. They stuck me in a room with three Northern emoms who are known to be terror one of them famous quote, of course we all celebrate whenever. Unbelievers are being killed. I was sitting next to that guy for a photo op and then yeah, it was the next day. They had schedule this big press conference where they thought I would get up there and smile and agree that no, there's nothing to see here, folks. I knew what I was going to do, and I was. Advised by several high level advisors that they would likely kill me for it. So I updated my will. I had a farewell. Dinner with my family and explained to them you got to live for something and you got to die for something. And got on the plane and did it. And I was able to arrange a vehicle with the engine running outside the press conference. So I did it drop the truth and it dropped online at a time on a dead man switch, no pun intended, and got in the car drove the airport flew out. I had before that, I had maybe a thousand Facebook followers. I had one hundred and fourteen X followers. That press conference got three point to global a billion three part two billion global impressions within seven two hours. They can be in an emergency sit at hearing that same day in Nigeria. It set everything in motion and it's I'm credited this press conference and that the narrative flip that it brought about is what got Trump involved and he ultimately bombed sokotoed State in Nigeria on Christmas Day, and that was from that press conference. I'm told, Wow, absolutely incredible. I love what you just said there. Though, you've got to stand for something, you got to die for something. You know. There's one of the things I pointed out on the show actually a number of times, is we all like to watch these grand Hollywood movies, you know, like William Wallace Brave Heart, and we always like to put ourselves in those shoes. Like that's what I would have done. I would have said, you know what, King of England, We're gonna live free. But the vast majority of Americans, if we're being honest, we don't have it in us. You sir, you proved. Hey, you know what, I could die doing this, but reviewing the truth and trying to help humanity, it's worth it. You know. I didn't see I had an option. How could I live with myself if I had the opportunity to expose this? And again, I've been serving there for a long time. I have been to the front lines. I've been to Bocos, the community. Where a couple months prior was the Christmas massacre, three hundred and some odd Christians hacked to death. I've been there. I know the victims, these displaced people, they're my friends. Like I said, we build schools for them. We have more than six hundred full time students now. And these horrific displacement camps where these Christians have had to flee. The government denies they exist. That you in denies they exist. And at that time, nobody was paying attention, nobody was talking about it. And yeah, God gave me an opportunity to do something about it. I don't know how I could have lived with myself if I didn't go. You know, I'm of the age. I'm about to turn fifty six, old man. I reconnected with a couple of college buddies a couple of years ago. You know, two friends, we had dinner and we stayed up. They're both dead now different things. You know, my friends are starting to die, and two out of three, why wasn't it me? You know, you got to go somehow, And that's what I explained to my kids. You know, you got to go somehow. You could you go get the mail and get run over by a truck. If this is how I go, as long as they don't torture me to death, I think I'll be okay. You know, I didn't see I had an option. It was just what God called me to do. Absolutely, you've also done, and you'll have to help me with the name here, but you also showcased some of the victims of what's been going on with Nigeria. You have a I believe, a teenage girl who is a kind of a TikTok star, maybe a twenty something year old girl, and she was ultimately killed because of what she was revealing, and you showcase her story through your website and through your work. Yeah, yeah, Aisha, that's that's slightly different. But yeah, she was actually just died because her brother couldn't afford a bribe. Twenty five year old girl, orphan from this violence. Her and her brother lived in this displacement camp. And yeah, she was convinced no one's coming to help. So she was aisha, very determined. She she had she was getting education, she had a job, she had a side hustle, and she had this TikTok channel and it was growing. And she got a bladder in affection and eventually, because healthcare is hard to come by when you have nothing and you're in the situation, she was trying to wait it out but ended up collapsing unconscious. They took her to this hospital not supposed to pay if she's a displaced person. She had the car displayed uh. The hospital would treat her and then put in for reimbursement. Well, they told the brother they put they put her in the hospital bed and then said, oh, we want treat her without without And it was like a couple hundred dollars bribe. He couldn't afford it. He couldn't afford it. He finally found another ministry. I wasn't aware of this at the time, unfortunately, but that was going to take care of her at another hospital paid in full. They sent a vehicle to go get her. They wouldn't let her out of the hospital, but they wouldn't release her, this unconscious girl without a bribe. And she died there and they threw in the morgue on the floor, tagged unknown so they could continue the bribe, so that her brother would had to pay to bury her. I found out about it. I was there. We went in and to go get the body back, and the. Hospital chained the doors of the corridor closed and sent out their goons to assault us, beat us up, broke cameras and stuff. I got it all on video. But yeah, Aisha, she died because brother couldn't afford a bribe. That's how they treat these it displaced people there. It's horrific. It truly is a horrific story there. And I'm glad you brought up the displacement camps because according to the Nigerian government they don't exist. Well, there's a couple of them that do technically exist. They acknowledge three million thereabouts displaced, and the formal camps are horrific. They have like six hundred thousand people and the stories from there will blow your mind. But there's an other six seven eight million displaced that are unaccounted, and they live in these camps I can only describe as concentration camps that are self made. I mean there's suge ditches and shanties they built themselves. The government goes out of their way to call them criminals and vagrants and beggars homeless. They do not acknowledge that they're displaced victims. I have a school in a camp. It's in the middle of their capital of Abunja that the United Nations documented in twenty fifteen when it was first established. It's still there, the people are still there, and the UN now says there's no camp there, it doesn't exist. It's chilling. Go figure with the UN. I'm no fan of them, and I think the United State should exit as soon as possible from the United Nations and stop paying most of their bills. But let me bring you in the breakdown of Nigeria. What's the percentages we're looking at here Christian versus Islamic versus any other religions or faiths out there. So it's about fifty to fifty. There's a small amount very it's a very faith based culture. Either way. There are some indigenous religions and such, but it's very very small. It's about fifty to fifty they say Muslim Christian. I actually believe the Christians have a slight majority. The problem is the way that they had no hand in the creation of their nation. It was set up by the British on purpose. Combined these two regions, the caliph, the Sharia law genocide slavery Caliphate of the North, which they left intact that have been there since eighteen oh four, largest pre colonial empire in Africa, Sokoto Caliphate. They left that intact and then theyed it with the Christian English speaking, educated, forward thinking South and called it a nation. It was the administrator's girlfriend who named it in nineteenth In nineteen fourteen they named Nigeria. It got its independence on paper in the sixties, but the British rigged it on purpose for the North to maintain control because the oils in the South. The nationalized it and the British kept looting the oil. The people were the oil was getting nothing but pollution and corruption, and so they have a new constitution. There's a lot of history there. Written in nineteen ninety nine. I believe by a Muslim dictator wrote their constitution. It mentioned Sharia and the Islamic terms one hundred and sixty five times in the constitution, not one Christian reference. So it's an Islamic state controlled by. The caliphate that has this image of secularity, which is just false. But they projected to the world. So they continue with the trade deals and the good graces of the West, but that. That veneer is being exposed. Now that's why they're panicking and they're engaged in this massive narrative war that they have over ten million dollars in lobbyists right now, This country of particular concern is paying ten million dollars to lobbyists in Washington to muddy the waters and to put a lipstick on this whole thing. It's insane. You know what you just said is such a tragic and very common story of colonialism where they would just redraw maps, they would group people together they had hated each other for generations, right, and we see this in the Middle East, we see this in Africa, but it's caused so many problems because you know, the West, just here's the line. Now we drew it up. You're a new nation and man we've created so many problems within the world. Really through that, let let's let's transition here to discussions about Islam, because you know, with you and I were talking off camera before we started, how the Pope is literally just bending a knee to the Jihatis to you know, Islam, just making it seem like this isn't a religion that we should be concerned about, or faith that we should be concerned about. As a Christian, I believe that there's only one path to Heaven. I believe it's through Jesus Christ. We are covered by his blood, his grace. And so for any other religion I'm gonna take, I'm gonna examine it, I'm gonna look at it through that lens. But then also looking at Islam, this is a very violent religion, that's right. Yeah, And you know I distinguished betraying Muslims and Islam. There are Muslims that I respect, that I trust. We have one of our schools and then a camp that has displaced Muslim people because their parents refuse to be radical and got killed. And you know there are there are Muslims in Nigeria today that are have a gun to their head and they say join us or die. They say, we'd rather die than be radicalized. So those people deserve respect and honor. But Islam, the actual religion, it's more than a religion. It's it's an ideology. It's a government system. It's a conquest. It means submission. And it literally is just simply modeling the footsteps that Mohammad took. That's all. It is the codification of what Mohammad did. Mohammad was a dark age's warlord. He was a murderer, he was a genocider. He was a pedophile. I was about to say pedophile. Yeah, absolutely true. Yeah, I mean they don't right that he had a six year old ride. I mean, come on, and they hold that up as the perfect man. And if you look at what's happening today, the exact same playbook that Mohammad did. He come in and play victim, he would play minority. He would band together with other victim groups and play nice and get along and use the good graces of the host country against them. Because anytime anybody speak up, oh no, you know, you're you're you're attacking us, You're you're insulting us. We can't you know, And and little by little, they would take power and then they would knock off all their allies, just like they're gonna do with the gay rights people and the fitminists who are supporting Islam. Now there'll be the like they were in Iran. They marched with the rebels and then they were the first ones killed when they took power. That's how they do it, because that's how Mohammad did it. And that playbook has never in history, for fourteen hundred years, been stopped without a war, and they're doing it to us now here in the United States Britain. I hate to say it, but by a lot of accounts, it's already fallen absolutely. Yeah, and and and I hate to say it also because Nigeria's opened my eyes to a lot of things. The chick as you're coming home, the ruins for Great Britain, I hate to say it, but they're reaping what they've sowed around the world, those those thrown together amalgamated nations that were designed to fail and have been soaked in blood ever since. Those were set up by Great Britain predominantly, And so they're reaping what they've sown. And it's sad to see. Yeah, No, you're absolutely right. Certainly London has completely fallen, but I would agree with your assessment that Great Britain has fallen. And you're right, they've they've waged war against the West. I mean, you look at history and what the Islamics nations did when they invaded Western Europe. The atrocities are well documented, and I'm sorry if you believe it was just a bunch of peaceful Muslims and then these wicked Christians. That's what the that's what that was all about. You you're falling pretty revisionist history at that point. Can you talk about because we're seeing it certainly in the United States, and we're seeing certain regions that are completely controlled by Islamic state. Basically, can you talk about how a Sharia law and our constitution cannot work together? It is literally oil and water. Well, it's a completely different system entirely. Yeah, it's a different code, it's a different government, and there is no First Amendment right to a separate government system. We certainly can stop it up. But let me just give you an example from Nigeria, because Nigeria, you see a you see where they have control and then areas where they don't. Have as much control, and how the same people act differently in both those places. But just a couple of years ago, there was a young woman her early twenties, Deborah Samuel Yakubu was her name. Deborah Samuel a college student, one of seven kids, the only one her parents could afford to send the college. She was the hope for the family. She took a final and was in WhatsApp chat group and the other students were thanking Allah, and she said, Jesus is the greatest. He helped me pass my exam. She posted that on whatstap. The next day on campus with professors and police watching, she was pulled out. She was beaten, stoned. They put tires on her and burned her to death while taking selfie videos celebrating them. There was something of a national outcry, so they arrested two of this crowd, but before they could do anything, the crowd burned down three churches in town for protesting the arrests. The prosecutor never showed up, and fifty three I think it was Islamic attorneys showed up to volunteer for the defense, and so they got off scot free. The Vice Emam, this is the Deputy Emam of the National Mosque came out and said, well she blasphemed you know, what are you supposed to do and played the victim when this girl was burned alive for saying the words Jesus is the Greatest on whatsap and it was covered up. Nothing happened. That was that's that's sharia. That is a blasphemy killing and that will happen here if we don't stop it. Now, you know there's a there's a horrifying story. I thank you for sharing it because you know my audience needs to hear stories like that. And I will say this that that young girl is forever with Jesus Christ right now. Uh, and those individuals who murdered her, unless they change their ways, they will face eternal fire. So they did not get away scott free. I would say the the eternal judger, you know is is definitely keeping a record of what is transpired there. Going back to Nigeria, I just want the audience to truly understand that, you know what the situation is there, what what Christians in this country are facing, and so I'd love for you to describe like the persecution that they're experiencing their way of life. How at any given moment they could be attacked by a Muslim horde. Yeah, and it happens all the time. You know. Some of the people I work with are refugees from a village called in Ghoshet, and I've heard their stories from multiple different people, the same story. They swept in there. And first started killing the men, the Christian men, and stringing them up like oh, it's beheading them, dumping bodies in the wells, and for the you know, crazy, when they found out that there were some surviving men, the women were taking food to them, they started killing, raping the women and children too. They started rounding them up and selling them into sex slavery, burned all the churches, burned, all the schools, destroyed everything, yelling allahuof Bar the whole time. And those people I was over for a lot of people. That was over a decade ago, and they had not been able to go back. Just a couple of months ago, the government paid some of these displaced to go back home, hate them to go home, declared it safe, and then within two weeks they were all slaughtered. My goodness, you know, we've already kind of brought this up during the interview. But this is something that vexes me about the rabid democrats, socialists here in this country, the feminists, the homosexuals that are all for Islam as long as religion of peace and whatnot. And yet, as you pointed out, they were the first to get killed here. And these are the people that oppose slavery, believe all women, you know, women should never have to worry about being raped, and yet that's exactly what's going on in Nigeria and many other countries around the world. That's right, that's right. Yeah, people need to pay attention my book. If people are understood in my book or the schools that I build to rescue these Christian children. My website is Mike Arnold RG. Please come check out the book. It's epicenter. When you understand Nigeria, you'll understand the world because it's all exposed there. And the schools would build academies. 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You're over at Church and State dot Media and we're going to go back to our guests in just a second. But real quick, I do get to plug one of our great affiliates. And as Mike is talking about this what's going on in Nigeria, it just makes me want to go to Mark three to seven dot com because I think everybody should have a ghost phone. And I got to tell you, just applying it to what we've been discussing in today's episode, if you're a missionary going over to a country that is diametrically opposed to your belief system. Perhaps having a phone that doesn't spy on you, that doesn't get hacked, would be of great benefit. Certainly, I would want a phone like this for my Christians brothers and sisters that are being persecuted in Nigeria. I don't know if that's a possibility, but I think, at least in America, if you have the opportunity to have a phone that the government can't hack, that they can't spy on you, that you should take that opportunity. 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And right there as we were kind of going to that heartbreak, Mike, I'd asked you about the rabid you know socialists in this country that are supporting, you know, these Islamic countries and just turning a blind eye to the rapes, to the slavery. This is a big one. Like you do you talk to any American they hate slavery, and yet in so many of these Islamic nations that's just a day, It's like part of life. That's right. In fact, you know, the prosperous Muslim nations, if you look at their economy, it's based on two things. Extraction and exploitation. Cannot build a good economy. There's no example on Earth of a good economy being built. It's only by extraction, minerals. They happened to be sitting on oil and exploitation. Dubai, the Immirates did you know that their population is as much as ninety percent slaves eighty to ninety percent today. They had the paperwork called indentured servants, But it's slavery. That's who built those big glossy buildings there in Dubai and so on. Is slave labor. You know. The was it un that recently declared the Atlantic slave trade is the worst human rights violation in history, and it, no doubt was horrible, but it is eclipsed by the Trans Saharan slave trade and the Indian Ocean slave trade. More slaves went that way and continue to go that way by far, multiple times what went to the. West, and it's still going. The reason you don't see big black pop populations there is because they castraate all the males. It's a much more horrific and ongoing thing. Is the slavery that goes to the Middle East. You're you're absolutely right, and it was the West. It was it was the ideas that we came through Christianity really of all men are created equal that really ended the slave trade. We don't get credit for that, of course, I mean, we have a black eye. I understand that. I'm not trying to whitewash that whatsoever. Yeah, we participated in it, We engaged in it, and you know what, we corrected it and we ended it here. But as you pointed out, it still continues to this day and in a much more horrific fashion. Yeah. And we didn't start it, of course. I mean it was the British you know, we were a British colony. They had slaves. The British system did. And you know, we ended it, you know, when we could get you know, enough political will and you know, sacrifice three hundred thousand American lives to end that abominable practice. But yeah, that's not to defend that it ever existed. But the fact is there were more white slaves in North Africa than there ever were black slaves here. You just don't get that. History, No, you definitely don't. You know, there's on my side of the family, there's Irish and there was a lot of Irish slaves that were sold into it. I tell the story often on the show, but call your my last name means coal miner, and the coal miners were sold with the mine. They were indentured service. They were slaves. So yeah, and I'm not calling for reparations for myself, although it might fund the show. Maybe that's an idea. I want to go back to Nigeria on this because I want to transition the remainder of the show to what we can do, how we can help, and so the stage is all yours. Please tell my audience how they can shed more light to this, how they can get involved good organizations maybe that they can partner with that their money is not getting taken and building the coffers of individuals that are rather unscrupulous. But please, it's all yours, sir. Oh and we just lost him, so we will try to reestablish that. Chris is working on it right now, but we will get Mike back on. But as we try to get him back on, I want to remind people that you do have to do your due diligence here. There are some shady organizations out there. In fact, they're rather frequent that they take your money and the money does not go to where you intended it to. Oftentimes it's lining the pockets of the CEO, of the upper leadership of the organization. And oh and Mike is back, so we're bringing them back. But I was just talking Mike about being careful where you're sending your money to. But I think you heard the question that I was asking. Go ahead, The mic is yours, thank you so much. So yeah, first knowledge. The fact is, if you study physics, there's no such thing darkness. It's the absence of light. And so the way ultimately to win is to shine the light. And the light is love, the light is truth, and so yes, educate yourself. I'm not gonna shamelessly pitch my book, but it is it's a good starter for understanding what's happening there in Nigeria. Educate yourself and speak up. If your pastor hasn't talked. About the Christian genocide in Nigeria, educate him. He should. We who are many form one body, and one part of the body is getting mangled, the rest of the body should feel it. This should be preached from every pulpit, and not as a political thing, but awareness, shining the light. And then yes, if you feel so inclined and God puts on your heart to give, do your due diligence. There's a lot of. I don't want to say bad things about them, but people who have never set foot in Nigeria showing up and raising a lot of money, and you look at their documents, it goes to their salary. You probably don't want to give to an organization like that. There's a few that have been there. I've been there, buildings. I've been doing ministry there since twenty ten, been building schools there since twenty twenty. Right now we have and here's the big thing. There's between ten and twelve million displaced people there. That is where the terrorists recruits from. They say statistically there's a fifty to sixty percent chance of these displaced people being radicalized by twenty thirty without intervention. That's five to six million more Jihatis with access to a trillion dollars in mineral wealth and an ambition for global jihad. The old Dominion shooter just a couple of weeks ago was radicalized in Nigeria. They have that ambition. These children, this generation, this displaced needs intervention. For me, everything I've seen there, everything I've walked there, that's the most important thing that we can do as a body of Christ is reach out to these children and there it's widows and orphans, these displaced people. They hold the key to the future of Nigeria and Nigeria is going to pay a. Big part in the future of the world. So there are other good organizations, but if you are compelled to check mine out again Mike Carnal or you can click on it and see my organization there, Africa Arise. We build schools and those service beachheads in these displacement camps where we also help with medical care, we help with food, we help with shelter, but primarily it's about teaching these children. They show up to school wanting to get guns and go back and kill. They leave school with an education wanting to go back and rebuild. To me, that's shining the light. That's lighting candles and that's how you burn away the darkness and you reach people one heart at a time, and we're reaching them child by child in these schools and it's I believe, pray it's making a difference. I got to say, I love the education factor there. It's it's the old analogy, right, if you give a man a fish, you feed them, but if you teach them to fish, you know you've set them up for life. And I probably butchered that. But you're going in there and you're educating people so that they can call their way out of this horrible existence that they're experiencing. You and I and pretty much everybody watching this show. Education is just it's just a factor in America, Like we don't even think about it, but you go to some of these poor countries, their world countries, and they just education. It's like it's like a dream for them, right that they want to be able to achieve this. To just to go to school, even one day a week would be just an incredible opportunity for them. You're doing this and you're bringing people out of a lifestyle where not only is giving them hope for the future, but you're also pulling them out of being radicalized and potentially we see them in ten fifteen years in an act of terror. That's right. What's interesting that one of the primary terrorist groups behind all this, so you've probably heard of them, vocal Haram is what they're called. What that means in English, those words mean is Western education is forbidden. Wow. They recognize that an educated child doesn't help them. The biggest threat to them is education, and that's why they've named themselves Western education is Forbidden. When I first discovered one of these camps was twenty nineteen as a Holy Spirit detour complete miracle ended up in this hellhole camp in the middle of their modern capital, blown away, and I met a woman there. She'd been a school teacher in that village, Guosa that was wiped out like I had described, and they have nothing, you know, sewage, ditch, handbuilt, chanty, no assistance. And I was touched and after, what do you need? How can we help? And I thought she would say, I can use some money, you know, can you some sanitation, can you some medicine? Can you some food? Can you some sheep metal for a roof on my shanty for me and my daughter? She didn't. She said one thing. She said, Please help me teach these children that will give them strength of characters so they can resist the recruiters. That'll give them hope, so they have the reason to wake up in the morning, and that'll give. Them a path out of here. And so that's why we build the schools. It was the request of the displaced parents that said, please, this is our kid's only hope. Teach them, please. They know how to fight back, and so that's what we're doing. Yeah, you know, I can't help. But notice the two distinctions between Islam and Christianity, as we've been talking. Whereas Christians, we want to educate these individuals. And on the Islamic side, they want to keep them dumb down. They want to keep them stupid so they can control them, so they can sell them a a bill of sales. Here they can achieve gihad, They can go to heaven if they go and engage in a atrocity, whether it's gunning somebody down or blowing themselves up as a human bomb. That's what they want on the Jihati side. And here we are as Christians going in and trying to teach them things. Yes, sure, I it was just since I get a lot of videos. I have a lot of connections now in Nigeria. I'm now literally they call, they say, I'm the most famous and influential American in Nigeria today. It's sort of crazy. But You've got sent a video and it was some. Young girls where these Jihatis had them laying on the ground, their heads pulled back and they'd talked awhile. And then they cut their throats with dol machetes. But the people doing it looked to be twelve or thirteen, and there were boys behind them that looked to be six or seven with the Jihad outfit on six seven eight year old boys being taught to cut the throats of Christian girls because they're Christians. It's inconceivable, It's truly inconceivable. But that's what we're fighting against. They're not destined to that. It is not in their genetics, it's not in their skin color. It's the culture that they're forced into by these Gihattis. And we can stop it. We can turn it around. We've got six hundred kids today in our schools that are living proof that we can turn it around if we just shine the light and love them. Amen to that. Well, sir, we're winding down towards the end of the interview. I want to bring up the website once again, Mike Arnold dot org. We're going to show that to the audience once more. But I can't tell you, sir, how much I appreciate this interview, getting the word out, and especially the work that you've been doing and your bravery that I know that Christ gave you in addressing this situation. But just once again, please talk about your website and how people can help. Well, thank you so much, Yeah, the ministry is incorporated as Mike Arbold Ministry. That's by the website Mike Arnold dot org. It's just easier that way to communicate it. Our schools operate under Africa Rise. We have a full entity over there, so it's a nonprofit five O one C three. You also can click there to order the book and just learn more about the work that we do there. Yeah. Absolutely, I'm just going to echo that, encourage the audience to go to Mike Arnold dot org. Explore the website. I'm going to tell you get the book Epicenter. I'm going to read it. I'm looking forward to this. There was also a number of other books that Mike has read and then you can read all about his extraordinary What's huh or do I say read Britten? Sorry mind getting corrected by my producer. But you've written a number of other books. You've had an incredible life entrepreneur. We didn't even get into that. I wanted to focus on Nigeria here, but please audience go check out the website Mike Arnold dot org. And Mike, once again, it's been an absolute pleasure having you on here, and once again, thank you for your work and and coming on Church and State. I'm gonna go ahead and close this out. If you hold on one more minute post production, sayah, goodbyes. I'd appreciate it. 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