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It really does help us stay on the air and continue to come at you five days a week. Lastly, if you want to get ahold of US Church and State seventeen seventy six at Proton dot me with that here is another episode coming from Freedom Fest in Las Vegas. Had the opportunity to sit down with Yan and Steve and talk about the Communist Chinese Party, which is a very very important issue that I wish more Americans were paying attention to. These guys are not our friends, ladies and gentlemen. Okay, they're not practicing free market capitalism. They have their own version it's crony, it's communism, it's state controlled. And perhaps the most atrocious and awful thing that we discussed with both of these gentlemen was the organ harvesting that they're doing with religious minorities like Christians, Muslims, Foolongong in this case. They were both talking about that. But there are elites throughout the world world that if they decide that they need a new organ, or the doctor decides that, or perhaps they should say God decides that, many of them are going to China and within two weeks they're able to have an organ. You consider what happens in the United States, where oftentimes you're on a two year wait list. How are they doing that? How are they bypassing that? Because they're taking these so called criminals, enemies of the communist Chinese state, and they're using them for their organs. So please pay attention to what we're talking about on today's episode. But that go ahead, Chris, Okay, Hey, this is Caleb Collyer with Church and State over at Freedom Fest, and I'm joined by Yan Yakelik Get there right, that's right, excellent, all right, and we're gonna be talking about your book Killed to order about China's organ harvesting. This is a big subject and unfortunately, far too few Americans are paying any. Attention to it. This is the this is the cover up the book. So it's kind of insane. The Chinese Communist Party is killing people at scale for their organs. And they were telling people for years that it was death row prisoners that they were using, but actually they are using prisoners of conscience, innocent people who have been incarcerated because of their belief or in some cases because of their identity, and kind of shifted as no one really did anything for the better part of fifteen years. But this is like something that's the whole next level compared to your garden variety. Also, frankly horrible organ traffic. And it happens with cartels. This is like what I would call next level killed to order, forced organ nerves as absolutely wild and despicable. And this isn't just one specific religious group, correct, you can you go into this because I know they're targeting Christians, Muslims, a lot of different faces that anyone really that's not worshiping the state as the Communist Chinese Party wants. Well, let me if I I could sort of frame out for you kind of how it works, because absolutely, this is something like atrocities when they're not held in check, when no one holds people account, they spread. But so let me just kind of frame out for you how it started, right, and then I can answer your question more completely, right, But basically, so let's talk about how it works in an ethical transplantation system. And an ethical transplantation system, say I need a new heart. Okay, someone has to have a catastrophic accident in this country, right, Usually it's a car motorcycle accident, and an ethics team has to decide that this person is actually dead, because sometimes you can harvest from someone that's not dead, and you obviously don't want to do that, right, But the death has to be very specific because there has to be a bit of circulation in the body. Still, the moment that all circulation is done, the organs degrade very quickly, so they're not really suitable for transplantation for heart anyway. Sure, So all of that happens. Plus our bodies reject foreign objects reject, so we actually control for blood type and tissue type. That's actually how we prevent rejection or reduce rejection in addition to using these anti rejection drugs. And there's also size. You can't transplant a giant heart into a small person. So that's all My point is, it's very rare. There's a sudden accident happens, there's this person that appears that's a donor, and there's a field of people that want to get that organ and there's an algorithm of sorts that determines who gets to the front of the line based on how difficult anyway, So all these things, right have to factor in. The supply is a lot lot less than the demand. Okay, So now going back to China, I have to kind of frame out a couple of pieces of context here. Okay, one is, in China, they have this long history of creating class enemies. Okay, black classes they call them. So what landowners are a great example that was right at the beginning nineteen forty nine. The revolution happens and they're like, we don't believe in private property. Actually we're going to take the private property right, So what they how do they do that? These people there's millions of people that have private property. They're not just going to give it away. They've worked for it, right, and they have friends, and those people won't be happy either. Well, so this is what they did. In communist science. They always seize control of the methods of information dissemination. Okay, so they turn them into propaganda organs and they push mass dehumanizing propaganda through the population and then they convince basically it's convinced some portion of the population and kind of program or condition another much larger portion of the population to basically allow for worth terrible things to happen to the group of people that's being targeted. They see, these people are evil, that they took your land, so you deserve to take it back, that they're dangerous, you should hold them in contempt, they're beneath you. All these things right, and that activerts to work in our psychology, which we now we treat these people different. It's horrible, but every totalitary regime uses this one neat trick as target the youth for them absolutely. So like during the this is an example, like most people just kind of get conditioned and start treating these people as different and just there they're like more sort of tolerant of bad things being done. But some people go insane, like the Red Guard during the culture revolution, right, they actually went all in and started, you know, killing people in struggle sessions and so forth as part of the sort of mania that resulted from the mass propaganda. Okay, there's been many of these class enemies that the Chinese kum Asparty has created over the years. In nineteen ninety nine, the newest group became fell and Gone practitioners. And this is actually, it's very important to understand. It's very unusual group, very it's it was you can think about like a traditional Chinese yoga, okay, also based on core principles truthfulness, compassion, and tolerance, and people would live these teachings, voluminous teachings written by a man named Lehunga. But and not a lot of rules in here. But the rules would be things like there's no enriching yourself from the practice, there's no hierarchy in the practice, there's no worship okay, there's no roster, you don't even join anything. It's like living the teachings is what makes you a practitioner. And when you add all this up, it was unusually grassroots in a society which is communists, which is I like to call it obscenely hierarchical. Everything kind of comes from the top, right, And so when they black class the felon gone, there had been seventy to one hundred million people doing this, okay, in this very grassroots fashion shared by word of mouth. The government the dictator at the times that we're going to eradicate this. That didn't mean kill everybody. That meant put them into struggle sessions. Okay, make them a black class. Now you can get out of it. Sometimes as a black class, right, you can say, well, for example, as a lander, and you say, thank you great Communist Party for emancipating me from my wrong thought. I thought owning land was a good thing. Now I understand it's now I understand. Thank you for your support and helping me. If you did all this kind of crazy stuff, you could live maybe because now you've sort of you've you've basically shown your compliance, okay, or obsequiousness or whatever. The Fhalon Gong became kind of the first group that really didn't do it. They said, no, we're not evil. I mean the propaganda they push was really intense, right, the regime push so and sometimes you know, you see these yellow shirt wearing people at like capitals of different states, or in Washington, d C. They're giving out flyers explaining about the persecution of Often it'll stay on the shirt Felon Daffa is good or Fellon Gong is good. That's the response of the feal Gong writers. Actually, we're not evil, we're good. Right, It's almost became a slogan. And the regime didn't know how to deal with this because they've never seen the level of resistance of a black class. So they incarcerated like a million people, maybe too, we don't know, we don't actually know the real number. Hundreds of thousands. They'll say, okay, and this is what sets up this kill to order situation. Okay, because they took this group of people that's been dehumanized massively, and then they incarcerate a massive number of them. And now they start blood typing, tissue typing, and organ skinnings people in advance. So now, as a wealthy transplant tourist, I got my one hundred or two hundred grand, I put my money down, the transaction goes through, and the donor, really it's an innocent prisoner of conscience, not a real donor, is ready to be killed to orders shipped and killed to order so that I can lift. Okay, that's the exact reverse. Okay, the exact reverse of an ethical system. One recipient appears, and this whole field of donors ready to be used as unwilling like an unwilling organ by And now to answer your question, right, so they built this on the back of fell and Gong fifteen years or so, no one really the world didn't really respond meaningfully, and they added a second brew the leaguer Muslims up in the northwest of China, very isolated geographically. They run the whole area as a police state. They dehumanized them, they incarcerated perhaps a million of them wet or more. And then because it's run like a police state, that actually allowed them to start blood typing and dissue typing people in their homes. So a significant portion that entire population up there has been basically set up into this Forgan bank situation. And that's the problem with atrocities. They spread. So it isn't just Phllangong practitioners it was. It has probably been predominantly Fellando maraditioners the Vegas in recent years. I think the uniquely vulnerable group. I mean added and signific a significant scale, and possibly other groups that are you know, we've heard some about Tibetans, We've heard some about Christians, but I don't know the details. One thing I do know is that there's the dehumanizing rhetoric that they used against the Phalangong, that used against the leaguers, that's in a significant uptick against Christians right now in China. And I talked with my friend Bob Fu over at China Aid about this, and he agrees that this is happening. So that's very concerning to me because that dehumanizing propaganda always precedes atrocity. Sure, you know, one of the things that I always keep my eye on is dystopian films because Hollywood likes to use predictive programming on us. And as you were talking about that, I'm sure you're familiar with the movie The Island. I'm very familiar. In fact, In fact, I think I talked about this attas is that. I mentioned The Island, right, Yeah, yeah, I mean that's that's literally what it is, and it's happening in real life and nobody. Seems to care at all. In fact, The Island film came out one year before I kind of got hit over the head with the evidence. I had heard rumors that this was happening. This was I think the island came out two thousand and five. We kind of got the evidence in two thousand and six. One of the whistleblowers, right, was an Israeli transplant surgeon. His patient told him one day, I've got it set up. I've got my heart transplant set up in China in two East And Yakap said, that's possible. How can you schedule a heart transplant? You have to know when someone's gonna have a catastrophic accident. There's no ethical scenario for that, right. But the guy went, God is hard, right, And that was one So that was one of the things that convinced me that this is real, that there's something that's happening sure at scale, that you need to have this living organ. Dang. See, it's not like with cartel situations. I've researched this a bit too. It's kind of like any organ into anybody, like they don't because there's really no recourse, Like, you know, you can't really go to complain to the cartel that things went wrong, right, because you're it real quick. But here, right, it's actually the Chinese super elites. They are the brine beneficiaries of this system. Basically, if you're a Chinese super lead, remember that hot mic moment that happened probably last September. It's Hi Jianping, Vladimir Put and Kim Jong, and they're watching a military parade, right, and they get caught on this CCTV hot mic, and basically they're they're talking about continuous organ transplantation for immortality purpose. You remember this year, right, and and yeah, and it just sort of reveals that that that and I even remember years ago getting like it's this anecdote was sent to me. It's an obituary of this very high level leader bragging in the obitual. It's written if he liked to brag about how many transplants he had gotten, right, or he liked to talk about how much I mean, it was it was sort of setting blowing turns, right, And this is the this so basically that that that crystallized why I didn't really understand the meaning of that until that hot like moment. If you're Chinese super lead, unlimited organs available to you in perpetuity, you need a new heart. The heart might not last that long. Eight you can have another one when you need it, right. It's a really extreme, extreme and very twisted incentive structure. Absolutely, it's like Frank's science Monster. You're just gonna be covered in scars because you keep eating organs replaced. But all of these super earliens, regardless. Of the country, that's their goal, right, it rather be transhumanism or this organ trafficking. That's what they're going for. Is that immortality, And so you know that's this is I worry about this because you know, some people, actually some Chinese more like I kind of think it was a really hot, a hot mic moment, but a number of Chinese are going to have been in the system for a long time. They raised cynical about you know, the Chinese Communist Party making a mistake like a hot miner. Imagine the heads that would revolve, right if that really was a hot mic. So they actually think that was faked and it was actually kind of advertising right that that that a few people told me this now is like that's crazy, but you know, maybe maybe it could because like if you yeah, but if so, if you want to benefit from our system, right, better be good. Better be good? Sure. I interviewed another individual center around the Communist Chinese Party earlier actually yesterday, But but I brought up something that I want to bring up with you as well, you know, not not too distant. You know, in the past here behind Ronald Regan identifying the Soviet Union as the evil Empire. Yes, samily went to war against Communism, and ultimately we won that fight. We've never not only have we never really gone after China. I used to work for the John Birch Society, so I'm pretty familiar with what's going on there. And we betrayed check and the Nationalists and our support behind the Communist Party. We as Americans just don't seem to want to go near the evilness of what is going on with the Communist Chinese. Why do you feel that is here in America? Why we turn whind either that? How long you got No, it's a big question. No, But there's multiple pieces to it, and I'll try to summarize as best I can, because I know we don't have that much time. But back in the year two thousand or so, when I was working on China human rights issues, and I already knew that the Chinese Communist Party was killing people for exercising what we consider our First Amendment rights right, our fundamental protection from government. Right basically, so I knew that they were not liberalized, that this was the mantra. I don't know if you remember, but this was like a ninety five to five issue. Everybody believed, essentially the Kissinger doctrine. Everyone believed that we're going to change China by we're going to make them become like Taiwan or South Korea or one of these Japan or something like that, right right through our benevolence, right. And of course we're going to make a little bit on the side or a lot on the side, Okay, But but no, this was very and I felt like I was a little bit like I was screaming into the void. It wasn't screaming, but it was just people just didn't get it. And I was like, no, they're killing global forly, you know, wanting to believe something different, Like that's literally what the They make people sign pieces of paper. If the person agrees to renounce their faith, they could go home, but if they don't, they'll torture them to death. Basically, that's crazy. That is not liberalizing, right, that's part of the reason, right, we really are. I think part of it is because we wanted to believe it, and part of it was there's nefarious characters Swell that are involve So that's that's kind of how it started. And then you know, they I have a whole chapter and fill to Order that talks about how they're they're expert at making both their own population and us complicit by developing these relationships, right, And I could sort of lay that out a little bit. But again, I know, I know we don't. I don't been around a ton of time right now, but but but I would recommend chapter nine and kill to Order. Again. Part of it is basically convincing. Find one of the people that's job is to kind of bamboozle the barbarians or woo the barbarians as they call it. I would say, well, we're working together to try to change China. But then these are hardliners up there, just be don't don't rock the bone, don't do anything that the way get them to happen, Otherwise they're going to take control. But we're working together, right And that's just one example. Yeah, yeah, exactly, So all this happened and this happened with the US government, very high level relationships after ten minutes square. Infamously, we found out much later scro Across going to Beijing and saying, we're going to write this out. Guys all known, right. But I think I think a lot of it had to do with money, because the CCP figured out that by co opting the American elites, right like, by basically working together making good money, it didn't matter that the rest of the country was being hollowed out because people didn't fully even grasp. But they're like, hey, we're making money, We're contributing to the economy, right, and it's easy to you know, there's this famous Upton Sinclerk quote that it's very hard to explain something to someone if their financial interest is connected to them not noticing. Right. I forget, that's not the exact quote, but it's very close paraphrase, it's a very close thing. So I think that's part of it. And but that said, I do think in the last ten years it's shifted, and I you know, you hear President Trump, for example, talking about how she is as best friends. Guys, seems to say this about many of the dictators that that have their most sort of problematic for them Erica, you know, with some exceptions, But I think that's part of his negotiation tactics, because his economic policy feels something very different and frankly part of the reason he was elected back in the day. I mean, to be fair, almost every president campaigned on protecting America from China, right, but I think Trump was really the first one to enact that. And you know, the first trade deal that was arranged between the US and China that I think that was actually the first moment in which the Chinese were leveraged into a position they didn't want from over like they probably thirty years because they would always say, yeah, we're we're doing win win, but really they were just getting I win twice, yeah, every time. So I think this has shifted. I think it's been a long haul. I think we've realized the situation for minerals. I think we're trying to figure out how to extravate ourselves. They've done a really powerful job of putting themselves deep into thelobal economy, kind of making themselves too big to fail. If I would say, I would argue that it's better to have the pain now than the pain later because the pain later is really bad. Being absolutely so. Yeah, but anyway, I think you're you're right. I mean, most of our medications, like ninety five our medications are coming out of China. That's just one example right there. And that's and that's part of their industrial policy, that's part of their That wasn't it's not by accident. This was part of their national security strategy INTERCT right to basically because we you know, it's a very compelling argument to say that we built that. It's it's not a normal economy. It's a parasitic economy, mainly on the US but also on the West in general. Yeah, so I kind of advocate for cutting off all those sources of revenue because that's really the main thing the regime has sort of followed out its own economy dramatically. It's really only an export piece now. And you know, I think it would be good for the Chinese to help figure things out them among themselves internally, and I think they would be quite an economic powerhouse and would give us a run for our money. And I think that kind of competition woul actually be very valuable to America, like to have a proper you know, one of the stereotypes is that they work their butts off, and that's a true stereotype. Actually, that's a I know, I work with a lot of freedom and free minded Chinese. It's like that. So anyway, this is a bit of a long, long winded answer, but I think we're at a moment where things going to be changed, meaning really, and it's a question of do we want to keep funding a regime that does kill to order? And I would argue that's not a good idea, that we should sort of we should stop being complicit, and we are in many ways. Yeah, I would agree. And so with this book, I want everybody in the audience to grab this book, Kill the Order. I want you to read it because I want you to get angry. Because this book, I guarantee you, is going to make you angry, and anger can drive. You to action. And that's what we need in the United States is action. We need people to read your book, Kill the Order, and then go contact their representative and say, hey, we need to do something about this. And if there's an organic groundswell, you know, raster Its movement, then perhaps we can bring about change. Stop with this despicable organ harvesting. What's going on in China? Heyleb right on the money. Thank you so much. Absolutely, Yeah, pleasure having you on. Thank you so much. Hey, this is Caleb Cally with Church and State over at Freedom Fest. I'm joined by Steve Lanson, secutive producer for the film Unbroken. It's pleasure to have you on the show, Sir Caleb. Thanks sooner for a little puppetunity. Yeah. Absolutely, So. The film Unbroken a movie about traditional Chinese dance, and they persecuted horrifically by the Communist Chinese Party. Yeah, the folks behind Chinmun practice this spiritual discipline called fallen duff, and it was introduced in China in nineteen ninety two. By nineteen ninety eight or one hundred million Chinese people started to practice. This became sort of this glos phenomenon to the country, and because of that Communist China, it drew the attention of the florians, so they condemned it, began to systematically persecuted and put out a ton of propaganda to defame, and the diable that hasn't even called this stood crazy from practicing, so on and so forth, and so a lot of folks from this community flattered that persecution, you moved to the United States and have used various channels to sort of get the word out persecution. In one of those years, shiny and they have seen the billboards with the tagline China before Communism, and it's grown to sort of this global sensation where it performs all around the world at the finest theaters in New York City, Washington, La Paris, London, you name it. And because of that, it's also on the entire the Chinese Cause Party. Of course it has. You know, it's interesting that the more they persecute, the more it grows. But it doesn't surprise me at all and has a long history, Oh, I should say Communist trainings, their Homeless Trains Party is a long history of hating really any religion because their intention is for you to versity state. That's one hundred percent right, and that's why they see phone volte in Shehrileann goun as the biggest threat. This is Caleb Collier with Church and State. Are you tired of your device spying on you? Ladies and gentlemen. We live in nineteen eighty four. Your phones, your tablets, your smart televisions, they all are spying on you. And this is why I heavily endorse Mark thirty seven dot com. This is everything you need for your digital privacy. Phones, tablets, laptops, all of them are ghost protocoled, so that means that you are in charge of your own data. Just go to Church and State dot Media, scroll over to shop and hit Mark thirty seven dot com for all of your privacy needs. 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The Comumless Trains Party is long history of hating really any religion because there their intention is for you. To worsh the state. That's one hundred percent right, And that's why they see follow In Hilo Jun as the biggest threat because actually both of them sort of embody the spirit of a renaissance of many of those traditions. As you mentioned it, during the Cultural Revolution, they went to such great lengths. To destroy the traditional culture. They toppled buddhistatutes and Dallas temples, and made light of Confucianism and inverted all of those principles that Chinese foods are flourisheding for thousands and years. Yeah. Absolutely, And you know, I wish more Americans knew the very tragic history of how the United States betrayed China really and we had an opportunity to either support the communists or the nationals, you know, with King or Czech and we didn't. We picked the wrong side, and you know, ultimately that led to the establishment of Taiwan. But you know, Americans ah ology to the Chinese people and what they had to suffer through through communism. I agree. I mean, there's the there's a lot of sort of these pockets of campaigns that that things failed. I know, that we were trying to help the Tibetanis fend off the Chinese for a while and sort of you know, receded from from from. The see that on tours all the time, free Tibet. You don't see that as much anymore. You're right, and you know, a big thing about she Win is sort of the quintessential American history. When you think about our founding in the Pilgrims, they've shared religious oppression inside of England, ultimately planted the seeds to Constitution uh Infessional Endment. You have these Chinese dissidents fleeing religious impression coming here and utilizing, you know, some of our greatest attributes. So it's really a tremendous story. And the fact that it's naw intact and leverage percent of America's finest at Luis institutions. We were times as really as saying, yeah, you brought that up before we record, and I'd love for you to share that with the audience. I don't encourage anyone who read anymore. Times I refer to as the Nati Slimes, but it's a it's a publication that has a long history. I mean, David Rockefeller talk bank to the media for high morble true intentions of its loveliness. But this is no friend for anyone who who suits liberty loves freedom, and they went after you know. This group for what seven times reach you do. It's it's actually upwards of ten, eleven or twelve, depending on how you look at the different articles that they published. And it's really hard to wrap your heavily how American institutional could get things shold and I think a lot of people, you know, it's almost sort of staple generation the family, so they just can't. You know, wrap their head around with that fact. But as you mentioned just in New York Times Shore history, they've got from things. If you look at the Ukrainian Jenison and Walter Durant, you know, the bullets are that he were for that time basically carrying water for stall and it's been really recognized that that was about an alcohol and they did everything, but the bullets are for whatever reason, and so that's one reference that you can look at. You know, the New York Times themselves getting something when it comes to the issue in the persecution of following, they've gotten you know, wildly from the beginning, and what we explore in this film is sort of the editorials and we really you know, the ccpunity kind of throws more and there's so much and it's hard to trace back everything. That they're doing. So we put a few of those things together and what you can see is a through line that everything that The New York Times is reporting reporting and is that the airports one Kenviling. Everything that they're saying is a direct propaganda component that comes out of the shining and how they try to label and you know, we don't get into this too much in the film, but I think it's interesting viewers might find it interesting as well. One of the key jerulists her quotes again, her name is Nicole Holme, and her father is a professor of the originally from China. I think he was naturalized to the United States, but we were able to war Earth and funding that he has directized to the CCP's United Work depart This is direct, thisis in speculation, directly to night to organizations under the United Film Work Department. And so whether or not this New York Times reporter in Nicole is. An agent of influence because of her obvious close proximity to her father or just simply carrying water for the CCP. It's something that in Dovay should be I would agree. And regardless, I mean, there's there's enough there for us to examine, to look at it and say, what's what's really going on? And this United front of you know, well era and it's it's infiltrated so many institutions in the United States, and as you said, it's got people from diversities, from media, Hollywood carrying the water for all. The Chinese party are communist parties, and uh, you know as Americans that I just think that we need to look at that and we should be on the side. You know, we can we can put away religious differences and we can put it out aside and say, hey, this is a group that is pursuing freedom versus communism. You're absolutely right. And if you were to go to a Shinan performance, the vast majority of people that attend. They're not that's as they're actually Americans. The whole different works of life, and you know, the common sort of uplifting energy coming out of it is this was a presentation of universal efthics. There's certain common themes that sort of bomb us all together. Sure, and you know, she encapsules. Let me ask you a question in regards to. Communism, it wasn't that long ago, uh, that Ronald Reagan labeled so we uned an evil empire, and we did everything within our power to combat this got over want oxy wars and things. They ultimately fell in good writings in my mind, why did we not have that same mentality when it comes to the communists and it's party. That's a really excellent I asked myself that probably twice a week, to be honest. When I walk down you know, our office in Washington, d C. Is a trophy building right across from the Capitol. We share, uh, you know the building some of the most well known multi national companies, well known American companies. They're there to lobby, they're there to report. And when I walk down the hall and I see a newspaper called with SHANEA. Dingle, Okay, well, this is a state run publication and we're essentially, if you ask me, in our intelligence community and one rule with China right now on many films and so could you imagine to your wait during the actual clear lyrics walking down the hall across from Congress with some of the most influential people in the world working there with the Russian publication. It's really it's really the same thing. Yeah, it's the same thing. And they are not just in the halls of our building, as you mentioned through the United film. They're a Hollywood, they're on Wall Street, they're on Counting Line. And this isn't fearing, this is fact. Yeah, yeah, absolutely right. I think this film is a great way for Americans to look at this, watch this and and start to take action, because you know, that's weirdly what we need to do as Americans is we've gotten so apathetic and really just kind of fat off of the freedoms that our faunding fathers gave us. There's a big fight for freedom here and it's not just in the United States. It should be worldwide and we should be well, I'm definitely not one for getting involved in all these foreignertainments and wars. We should encourage peaceful, you know, freedom movements all across the area, and this is one happening right now in China. You're absolutely right, it's something that we all need to be aware up and vigilant. You know, as you said, where you know, the most generous and accepting country on the face of the earth. And you know people come here for good intentions. Shrinyan would be a prime example when they flee communist China. They come here and they love everything the country stands for. But there are people that don't the career and they have different intentions. Communist propaganda is very powerful. It sticks, it takes a long time to deep program problem, and you know it's a real threat. Oh absolutely. I mean I'm in Washington State. I see the communist propaganda that has taking a hole in the Roman cities like Seattle and Portland. It's everywhere, so it's no different than where you're at as well. How do people go and watch the film? Well, we'll give your viewers a special link to watch free. Of course, you can watch it on an Amazon there's a small fee, but if you go to NTD on a New Tong Dynasty ntdfilms dot com, you can watch it there. Fantastic. Well, I encourage the audience to go and watch this film. I know I'll be checking it out and I'm going to have you back on for a full forty five minutes when we when were actually in studio. I'm looking forward to that conversation. But thanks for stopping by and letting us know what's going on. It's been fun. Thank you absolutely. All right, ladies and gentlemen. That concludes today's episode. I hope it was enlightening and honestly a little horrific for you. I hope it really. I hope it made you. I hope it drove you to action. I guess this is what I want to say. 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