TACTICAL TUESDAY: Combat/Home Defense Shotgun Loads

Welcome to the Gun Metal Armory. Here's your host, Dane D. What's up, Team Gun Metal? This is Dane D. with Gun Metal Armory. Um, last week I basically ran out of time and I wasn't able to give you guys a full show because I was at work quite late. So, um, In an effort to make sure that that does not happen this week, I'm going to pre-record my show, which I'm actually doing right now. I'm going to pre-record my show and release it around the time when my show normally goes on the air. Now, I know some of you guys aren't terribly excited about the pre-recorded shows. You guys would rather I was live, and I do love to be live. I think it's a lot more fun. I think it's a lot more organic. I just really appreciate the live shows more so than the pre-recorded ones. However, right now, work is still insane for me. Me and my wife did finish the purchase of our house. However, there are some repairs that need to be done on the home before we can actually move into it. So, we're doing those repairs and fixing things up, getting things ready for us to move in. And doing that takes a lot of time, a lot of money, and a lot of resources. So that obviously doesn't help me stay on a schedule to do my podcast each week. So that, of course, you know, coupled with the insanity surrounding this stupid virus and all the crap with that. Um, my wife being in school, both of us, both working more than full time. Um, my wife being in school full time, us trying to fix up the house, all this stuff all together, um, can be very, very, uh, stressful and make things very difficult to do. Um, I'm just, I'm doing the best I can to get, podcast out because I love doing this. I love doing this. I love helping. Um, I love sharing my knowledge. Um, I think it's really, really important to get the message of prepping out there and, and now more so than ever. Um, so anyways, without, uh, without too much more further ado, um, Welcome to the show. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for joining us. As I said last week, I didn't have a whole lot of time, but I was able to get in a little something for you guys. Not as much as I would have liked, but I got in a little bit of something. So tonight we're going to finish or even continue the talk about shotguns. So many shotguns. Well, combat shotguns, I guess is a better way to look at it. Combat and home defense shotguns. Um, many of them are still being purchased where, um, where I work. Um, many of them are still being, um, bought, um, you know, lots of ammo still being bought, things like that. So it's something to keep in mind as a prepper, um, that these specific items are being purchased and that you need to keep an eye on what everyone else is doing. It's a very important thing to know, not necessarily what your enemy is doing, but what everyone else is doing, or as Sam Culper might call it from, what do they call that, Forward Observer? I think he has the blog or the YouTube channel he has. It's called the Forward Observer. But it's great. It's great. You guys should definitely check it out. Anyways, as he would call it, I believe he calls it an area study. You need to understand what people around you are doing and why. So, many shotguns are still being bought and sold since the COVID-19 calamity began. Pump action and semi-automatic shotguns are the highest sellers, in my opinion. Tonight, after I give you guys one heck of a disclaimer, we're going to get into some of the stuff with the shotguns, different types of combat and self-defense loads. We're going to talk a little bit about the history of them, you know, stuff like that. You know, different types of loadings and so on and so forth. So let's see. First, though. I want to go ahead and do my announcements for the evening. Speaking of guns, if you want to know how to convert your AK-47 into a survival rifle, I released my first book, Building the Prepper Armory Series, Volume 1. 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Tonight I'm really not going to touch much on the coronavirus or report any kind of updates on it. I think it's all we hear about now. And me, I mean, I for one am a little friggin' tired of it. You know, I think it's getting to be stupid and ridiculous. So, you know. I'm tired of it. I just don't want to deal with it anymore. I don't want to update crap on it anymore. Mainly because I'm just tired of all the fear mongering. I'm tired of all the, you know, the sky is falling. Everyone get ready. You know, it's bull crap, dude. Like, it's just, it gets on my nerves. I'm just tired of all the freaking fear mongering, I guess is the best way to put it. I just think the media is really whooping it up, you know? I think they're just really taking advantage of this, and it's just pissing me off. But anyways, last week on my little short little podcast, last week we had a new term coined on the show live. Well, no, wait. That one was recorded. No, that was live. Yeah. Last week we had a new term coined live. By the Mistress of Metal herself. Which will be joining us again very soon. As soon as she's out of college. She will be joining us again. So you will actually get to hear more live shows with the Mistress of Metal. And more recorded shows with the Mistress of Metal herself. So keep that in mind. But last week we had a new term coined by the Mistress of Metal herself. the term that she coined, if you guys remember correctly, was the Monday morning prepper. Kind of like a Monday morning quarterback, right? So, she coined this term when we were talking about the fact that we have seen a lot of people trying to prepare or trying to be preppers, if you will. Now, I have no problem with this, obviously. I mean, I want as many preppers as possible in the world because I believe that the more prepared we are, the less stress is on, you know, government resources and various other resources that need to have as little stress on them as possible. So, if you as a human are willing you know, relying upon yourself, then they don't have to worry about you. You're already taken care of, right? But me and my wife have been seeing a lot of people trying to be preppers or get prepared, and they're trying to do it extremely fast, you know, for whatever they think is coming, whether it's this stupid-ass coronavirus or what it is. But they're trying to get prepared extremely quickly and for whatever they think is coming instead of doing what they should be doing, which is staying home and learning proper sanitation, learning how to take care of themselves, you know, things like that. I mean, don't get me wrong. Like I said, we do want people to get prepared, but they need to do it correctly, okay? Coffee. Coffee. Black Rifle Coffee, just to be exact. It's AK-47. Anyways, prepping is not something you can do overnight. Prepping is not something that you can do in a week. Prepping is not something that you can do in a day or two. It's just not feasible. Prepping Is... How do I describe this? Prepping is a... It's a long-term goal. Yeah, it's a marathon. It's a marathon. Okay? It's not a sprint. It's not a real quick... Oh, I bought, you know, a case of MREs and a shotgun and a Mora knife. Now I'm prepared. Oh, and a water filter. I'm prepared. I'm a prepper now. No, dude. It's not... A sprint at all. It's a marathon. It needs to be. Done correctly. And too many people. Are looking. At prepping. As a sprint. Now don't get me wrong. Like I said. I do want people. To get prepared. But they're looking at it incorrectly. Okay. Just the other day. I saw a guy buying 20 individual. freeze-dried meals, a gun, ammo, a bone arrow, fire starters, walkie-talkies, and a bunch more crap. And at first I thought, okay, you know, good for him. But then I thought about it, and I realized he was a perfect example of that Monday morning prepper, okay? He was a perfect example of the Monday morning prepper that my wife was talking about. He's trying to get ready for whatever. He's going too quickly. And he's splitting his focus in too many directions. He's splitting his focus in too many directions. And he is not really understanding what prepping is all about. Okay. Okay. He's not understanding what it really is. What needs to be done. Okay. Okay. Um, like I said, though, it's, it's a marathon, you know, it takes time. Some preppers, you know, some preppers buy a specific item each month, you know, some buy a specific item each week or every two weeks, you know, they work on their property each month, you know, oh, it's, um, it's March, you know, or it's April or it's May or whatever, you know, um, I think I'm going to buy some more blackberry bushes or whatever for the property. Oh, it's May now. Okay, well, I think I'm going to buy an apple tree for the property. Okay, cool. Well, now it's June. All right, well, I'm going to buy a chicken coop and a couple of chickens. Okay, all right. It's July. Oh, I guess I do need some more 12-gauge shotgun ammo, so I'm going to get some of that. And I'm going to go outside, and I'm going to work on the fence that's around the chicken coop. So coyotes can't get to them. You know, so on and so forth, guys. I mean, this is not, it's not a difficult concept. It's just a matter of understanding the concept and how it is executed properly. How becoming and living a life as a prepper is properly executed, okay? I do not know everything. I am not a know-it-all, not even close. Um, if I knew a lot, I would, I would be doing other things too, you know? Um, but this is what I know. This is how I know to prepare. And this is for me, for my family, this is the best way that we can do it. Um, Like I was saying, some preppers work on their property each month. They go to a class each month, or every couple months they go to a class. They grab a box of ammo every two weeks. Most people get paid every two weeks, so they buy a box of ammo every two weeks. And so on. In my opinion, the Monday morning prepper, like that guy that I saw, It's like they're trying to catch up. Like they're trying to catch up to actual preppers. Like they're trying to see if they can get up to that level, you know, by spending a ton of money. Well, that's not what it is. You know, you can't. The mindset of a prepper takes time to cultivate, number one. Number two, preparation takes time, you know. And number three, learning what to focus on takes a long time, okay? But, you know, it's kind of annoying with people trying to catch up to us and, you know, get ready when, you know, when they haven't been doing this the whole time where people like us have, you know? Suddenly it's like everyone has realized that having certain items stored away and, you know, being ready for certain problems that can occur is a smart and prudent thing to do. Suddenly it's not crazy and weird. So I don't know. I just, it just feels very strange, you know, like once this whole thing is, you know, subsiding that people are just going to go right back to where they were. But anyways, I don't know. I just, It's just annoying. I don't know how else to put it. The Monday morning prepper thing is just really on my nerves. And, James, if you're listening, just like Medical Mondays and my penny each time it's said, my wife says that she wants 10% of any Monday morning prepper merchandise. She wants 10% of any sales. You know, like, let's make a t-shirt that says, don't be a Monday morning prepper. Prepper Broadcasting Network. That'll be awesome. Anyways, alright guys, let's do the product pick of the week real quick. Last week, I got to do a decent review on this product, but I'm going to do a little bit more of an in-depth review on the JTS M12 AK shotgun, okay? Last week, I didn't have enough time to do the full show, but I was able to give this shotgun some justice. And now I'm going to give it even more justice. Um, since last week, I have actually been able to run a few different loads through this gun. Okay. Um, I've run birdshot slugs, buckshot, um, stuff like that. And I can say that the M12 AK shotgun is, is a great quality. It ran great, you know, If you know what settings to use on the four different gas settings, then it works stellar. I mean, it's a stellar piece of equipment. There's no doubt about it. The ability, the other ability that I like in this shotgun, you know, that really lends itself to being for preppers is, well, obviously it's the four position gas setting, but The other option that I like so much about this shotgun that I think most preppers will agree is the fact that it can use two and three quarter inch or three inch shells. I mean, that in and of itself is incredible. guys it's incredible being able to use both of those shells now lots of pump action shotguns can do the same thing but any firearm that affords me multiple options for ammo ranks high in my book okay As I mentioned last week, too, there is an M12AK shotgun and an M12AR shotgun, okay? Both are designed after their respective platform namesakes. Both are designed after their namesakes, okay? The AK, the M12AK, designed after the AK-47, and the M12AR. obviously designed after the AR-15 or the M4, however you want to go about it. Both shotguns resemble these namesakes as well, just bigger. They just look bigger. The JTS M12 AK shotgun, those, well, actually the AR shotguns too, but I'll get into that one later. The M12 AK shotguns, they come with two magazines in the box. These are five-round mags, okay? They come with two of them in the box. However, to my happiness, I love this, you can purchase on the website, on the JTS website, you can purchase 10-round magazines. Those are also available for both the JTS M12AK shotgun and the M12AR shotgun. So you can run 10 round mags on those if you choose to, which is a big plus for me. As far as the gas ports go with the JTS shotgun, the gas port regulation actually, or regulator, I guess you want to call it, it has four numbers. The numbers are 1, 2, 3, and 0. And according to the manual, they represent the various gas ports. The number 1 represents the smallest gas port. And the number 3 represents the biggest gas port. Assuming that number 2 basically gives you kind of a mid-sized gas port. and the zero, the zero setting, or the number zero, represents the locking position, okay, um, not exactly certain what that would be used for, but, um, I have a few ideas, but I don't want to mention them on the air, anyways, anywho, it says, uh, normally the number one, um, should be used, um, Basically, the number one should be used more often than not. They say when it's determined that the recoil energy is insufficient to cycle the firearm, turn the number two or three of the regulator dial to align with the arrow or the marker so you can have these cartridges cycled. It also says when the cartridge energy is too low and the shooting requirements still cannot be met, adjust the 2 or the 3 of the regulator dial to zero position, then do manual loading and manual ejection. Now, that is one use for the zero setting, but again, I'm not going to mention what I think the zero setting is for. So, that being said, It is a super, super nice gun, in my opinion. I really, really like it. Both magazines, the 5 and the 10, seem to run just fine. Pretty, pretty gosh darn well. JTS or Jianshi, I can't pronounce it, factory. It is actually the same factory that the Norinco AKs are made in. So, If any of you guys are AK fans or fans of the Kalashnikov system, you know that Norinko AKs are among some of the best made, some of the best out there right now. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like they're being imported anymore, but hopefully someday maybe they will be again. The website, believe it or not, the website, the JTS website says that The JTS 12-gauge semi-automatic AK shotgun is designed with a four-position gas system, which allows adjustments based on the load. The receiver is equipped with a Picatinny rail, traditional AK stock, open front sight, and adjustable rear sight. Okay, yeah, we knew that. Let's see. Features and benefits. Semi-automatic with a 5-round magazine capacity. 10-round magazines are available. four position gas system for adjustments based on load receiver with Picatinny rail for red dot attachment, traditional AK style stock open front site with adjustable rear safety lever fits Remington choke choke tubes. So Remington chokes work with it. Two and three quarter inch and three inch shells, um, are able to be used, which is awesome news for us preppers. Um, it includes two five round magazines, um, It's an ambidextrous operation. It's capable of being operated by either hand. Let's see. Semi-automatic. Metal finish is blue. You've got a one-year limited warranty. Let's see. 18.7-inch barrel. 12-gauge. Front side is open. Ammunition type hunting. Okay, yeah, that makes sense. All right, so these M12 AK shotguns, from what I've seen, they're running about $ 399 at most stores that I've seen them at, okay? About $ 400 for this awesome shotgun, which, honestly, man, I would pay that all day long for this type of shotgun. This is a really, really nice one. Plus, it's mag fed, so if you do it correctly... Um, you can learn to run this thing just like you would any battle rifle, which is really, really cool. Um, however, you know, you have to keep in mind the weight restrictions of using things like double op buck shells. Okay. Um, if you want to find out more about them, all you got to do is go to www.jtsgroup.us. That's, um, juliettangosearagroup.us. J-T-S-G-R-O-U-P dot U-S. J-T-S Group. Okay? Juliet Tango Sierra. All right, guys. Let's take a quick break, and then we'll come back. I'll give you a quick disclaimer, and then we'll talk about the home defense and combat shotguns. All right? All right, guys. Don't go away. We'll be right back. And now, we return to the Gun Metal Armory. Okie dokie, smokey pokies. We are back on the Gun Metal Armory. Let's get this rocking and rolling here, guys. So, we're going to talk about the combat and home defense shotguns. So, a quick disclaimer here. I'm going to give you guys a disclaimer just like I do, just like Miles does, okay? So... I am a gunsmith, but I am not your gunsmith. Keep in mind that any and all suggestions I give you or anything that we talk about on here is for information purposes only. If you choose to work on your gun, you're liable for any work you do with your own two hands. If you think there is something you are unsure of or unaware of or don't know what to do with or how to fix or anything of this sort, please, guys, Please, for the love of Peter, Paul, and Mary, take the firearm to a competent gunsmith. Someone local, someone competent, take it to them and have them handle it, okay? Don't be dumb. Use common sense. And always remember, safety comes first. First, okay? Here's the rules of gun safety. Number one, guns are always loaded. Number two, never put your finger on the trigger until you're ready to fire. Number three, always know your target and what's beyond. Number four, never cover anything with your muzzle that you are not willing to destroy. And I always like to add, always secure your firearms from unauthorized persons, kids, thieves, etc. Okay? Alright, guys. That's about it. That's going to do it for me. No, I'm just kidding. I'm not done. Alright, guys. Let's talk shotguns. Combat shotguns and home defense shotguns do share quite a few characteristics. But for the sake of knowledge, I'm going to talk a little bit about history. the history of combat shotguns, okay? Combat shotguns have been in use for quite some time now, over 100 years. Let's see. They're meant to be used for assault or offensive operations, you know, for offense, but they can easily be used in multiple other roles on the battlefield, you know, such as riot control, door breaching, so on and so forth. Combat shotguns were used actually extensively throughout the trenches, the trench battles that went on during World War I. And in fact, many of those shotguns even employed bayonets, rather, because of the extensive close quarters fighting during that time. there were, uh, quite a few of those shotguns that were, uh, issued with bayonets and bayonet attachments, believe it or not. Uh, it's kind of interesting to think of a shotgun with a bayonet on it. It kind of makes you go, huh, when you, when you look at that in your head, but I assure you it does exist. You can look it up. Um, anyways, um, That was because of the massive amount of close quarters fighting in the trenches of World War I. The other thing that a lot of those guys liked was the fact that they could take that shotgun when they were in the trench. And they could be shooting one direction with that shotgun. And if they had someone coming from the other direction, they could easily swing it around and shoot the other direction. So... very, very easy to use, and of course, you know, you've got the trenches with your dirt walls on either side, which afforded you a pretty much a shooting gallery when those guys were coming down the trench at you, you'd have the shotgun that has a good spread of buckshot, depending on the range and the choke and all that, but you've got a decent spread of buckshot, and it it would do a significant amount of damage. Okay. Um, further back, of course, further back, we all know about the blunderbuss. Okay. The blunderbuss, you know, and if you don't know what that is, that is the big, large, um, musket looking thing with the, um, cone shaped barrel, um, that you see in all the Bugs Bunny cartoons. Um, and you probably have seen pictures of pirates using them, things like that. You've probably seen some of the silly cartoons where, um, they take the blunderbuss and they, you know, throw a bunch of forks in there and trash and rocks and all kinds of stuff packed in there with gunpowder. And then they just bang, you know, they, they shoot silverware and everything else at them with this big blunderbuss. Okay. Which, by the way, it's Blunderbuss. B-U-S-S. Okay? Bravo Uniform Sierra Sierra. Not bust with a T on the end. There is no T on the end of Blunderbuss. Okay? It's not B-U-S-T as in a woman's bust or a statue of someone's head. Okay? It is a Buss, B-U-S-S, Sierra, Sierra, okay? I've heard people call it a blunder bust more than once, and it annoys the heck out of me. Just like it, it really, really annoys me when people are like, do you guys have any clips for this pistol? Do you guys have any clips? I'm like, clips are for your hair, dude. Anyways, it's just a little pet peeve of mine. Okay, moving back to where we were. the blunderbuss was actually used for many, many years by militaries, civilians, and of course, like I just mentioned, even pirates. It was also used throughout the 1700s, but basically kind of fell by the wayside after a time. When the U.S. fought the British in 1814, the U.S. soldiers were actually said to be fond of loading their muskets, not the bunker bus. We're talking about muskets now. They were said to be fond of loading their muskets, their rifles, okay? Muskets are not pistols, they're rifles. But they were said to be fond of loading these muskets with a large caliber ball, as usual, but also enjoyed loading some pistols. smaller balls into the load along with the larger one okay um basically this was and I'm sure a lot of you guys out there are saying it right now but this was basically the infamous buck and ball the buck and ball round okay this is when it started back in the day um with the uh um musket ball, okay? The larger, you know, let's say 50 caliber musket ball and multiple smaller buckshot, you know, which let's say double dot buck would be like a 32 caliber, okay? So you've got this massive 50 caliber ball or even 61 caliber or, you know, 75 caliber or whatever. You've got this massive And then you've got multiple smaller little balls in there as well. So when they would fire, they would have this, you know, this volley of lead heading down range at the British soldiers. Now the U S soldiers, um, like I said, they were, they were fond of loading their muskets with that, with a large ball and the smaller balls. Now, The smoothbore musket, it was used in this configuration, and it was used quite effectively against the British during that time. And the Brits actually reported a higher degree of casualties when the buck and ball loads were used against the British. There was quite a few more injuries when this was done. But keep in mind, that's back in the day when they would line up in lines in front of each other and start firing. I know I shouldn't laugh. I know it's not funny, but the tactics of the time just make my head hurt. Anyways, back to it here. The Brits reported a much higher degree of casualties today. when the buck and ball load was used against him, okay, um, the buck and ball load even saw use in the Civil War, in the Civil War, both sides were using buck and ball, both sides, okay, now, when the Civil War ended in 1865, if I remember correctly, in 1865, um, Not long after that, well, I mean, it depends on what you consider to be not long, but basically about 30 years later, in the 1890s, in that range, in that area, a new type of shotgun that is still in use today, still being issued today, a new type of shotgun would come on the scene, and it would change combat forever. Excuse me. That type of shotgun, if I had a chat room, I would ask you guys, name it. What kind of shotgun was it? What action was it? And you guys would say, the pump-action shotgun, Dane. It was the pump-action shotgun, which, again, is still in use today, okay? Currently, currently, the U.S. military issues the Mossberg 595. Shotgun, the Mossberg 590 and 590A1. The 590 and 590A1. Now, the Mossberg 590A1 Mariner, the Mariner version, stainless steel with a marine coat, is issued to and in use with multiple Navy and Marine units as well, okay? Some... U.S. military units like to use a shorter barrel version in conjunction with the M4 in a door breaching role, okay? Some military police units obviously use them for crowd control and for looting control, you know, got a bunch of people rioting and doing all kinds of crazy crap and, you know, trying to be mean to the riot control officers and they're looting things. So they use these beanbag rounds or these rubber bullets and they, you know, shoot them with those and it hurts and they don't, they don't keep looting usually. Okay. Um, some units, some military units even issue shotguns on their own in conjunction with a handgun. They issue them to the soldier with a buckshot, you know, with actual lethal buckshot. Okay. So they're issued on their own in conjunction with a handgun. The doctrine requires that the soldier not only carry the shotgun, but also carry a handgun along with it. Now, my personal thought on this is, why not an AR pistol? I mean, it is a pistol. No, I'm just kidding. Well, I mean, it is. I'm not kidding about that. But I understand the military has certain doctrine they have to go by and certain things they have to go by. So a handgun, you know, like a Beretta 92 or a Sig 320 and the shotgun like the Mossberg 590 or 590A1 together. But the soldiers actually who carry these shotguns, you know, while they're in Iraq or Afghanistan, the soldiers who carry them know. Know that they have their limits. They know that the shotgun. Has limits. They have a limited ammunition capacity. Keep in mind. That there is a profound difference. In the amount of. Shotgun ammunition. A soldier can carry. When compared to a rifle. Or pistol. I don't think it's like. Terribly crazy profound. But it is something that. soldiers are very well aware of, you know. Let's see. When compared to a rifle or a pistol, the shotgun ammunition, there's not a whole lot. I mean, depending on the comparison, okay? So do me a favor. Try this little experiment. Put a 62-grain green tip 5.56 cartridge in one hand, in one of your hands, and a 12-gauge, two-and-three-quarter-inch, nine-pillet buckshot shell. in the other hand. Put one in each hand. And you'll feel the difference immediately. You'll see immediately the difference between the two, okay? Now, some Spec Ops teams carry up to nine 30-round mags on them at a time. Nine, okay? One mag in the gun, one mag in their M4, and eight mags fully loaded on their gear, okay? That's 270 rounds of 5.56. That's a heck of a lot of ammo, man. That's a heck of a lot, okay? Now, let's consider how many rounds you think you could reliably carry if you had to use a 12-gauge shotgun in combat, okay? How many rounds, how many shells could you carry if you had to carry it in combat? combat okay keep in mind that even carrying shotgun shells in magazines like you could do with the JTS M12 AK shotgun or the Vepr 12 shotgun or even the new Mossberg 590 M the mag fed Mossberg with its literal gigantic magazines oh gosh if you haven't seen one of these things yet wait till you do they're huge They're cool, but man, they're big. Anyways, even if you could carry them in a magazine like you can with the JTS M12 AK or any of the other MAGFET shotguns, you would still be limited by the weight of the shells, okay? You'd still be limited by the weight of those shells, all right? Let me get a drink, and then I will give you some examples here, all right? Hold on. Oh, my gosh. South Park's on TV. Hilarious. All right. I'm going to get up and walk around and do this because I have a laptop that's fully charged. So I'm going to walk around and preach. All right. So I'm going to give you an example here, okay? Nine 30-round mags at a time. One in the gun, eight mags. on their gear, Spec Ops teams, 270 rounds of 5.56. Now, let's consider how many rounds you think you could reliably carry, reliably carry, in or with your shotgun, okay? How many rounds, all right? So, hmm, let's think, okay. The weight of 100 military-issue 5.56 rounds, okay? 100, 100. Not much. We've all picked up the 100-round box of American Eagle 5.56 at the store, right? At Walmart. Well, Walmart doesn't sell those anymore because they're fairies. But, I don't know, let's say your local gun shop, okay? You know. you pick them up at the local gun shop, doesn't weigh much, 100 rounds, military issue 5.56, like the 62 grain XM55s, XM855s, something like that, okay? Or even the XM193s, doesn't matter. You pick those up, they're roughly, roughly three pounds for 100 of those, three pounds for 100 5.56 rounds, okay? Three pounds, 100 rounds, all right? Simple enough, right? Maybe a little bit less. Maybe two and a half. Two and a half, three pounds. Okay? Whereas, military issue, 12 gauge, double op buck. Let's look at that for a second. How much do you think a hundred shells weighs for 12 gauge, double op buck, military issue? Military issue, double op buck. How many pounds do you think it weighs? Oh, I know the answer. I'm just curious if anybody out there does. I'll just go ahead and tell you. It's about 10 pounds. Actually, a little bit over. A little bit over 10 pounds. Now, keep in mind, there are some factors that can change this, you know, if the shell is high brass or low brass. Generally, buckshot shells are going to be high brass just because they need to be, um, they need to have that extra brass there to contain that, that, uh, the additional powder that is in the shotgun shell. Um, you know, another factor that could affect it would be, um, you know, if it's got a high antimony content in there to harden the lead, um, You know, there's a few different factors that can change things slightly in there. I've even seen some that have eight pellets instead of nine. Of course, you have the three-inch shells. Now, we're talking about military issue, which is two and three-quarter, but you've also got three-inch shells, double-op buck, that are obviously going to weigh a little bit more because they would have 15 pellets in them. But speaking of what we're speaking of, that's kind of funny. Speaking of what we're speaking of here, 100 military-issue 12-gauge double-op buck shells weigh a tiny bit over 10 pounds. Okay, so let's just call it 10 pounds. And then the 100 5.56 rounds, let's call that 3 pounds. So there is a 7-pound difference. Or the shotgun shells, the same amount of ammo in shotgun shells, weighs roughly 3 times as much roughly three times as much. That's a lot, okay? Now, this doesn't take into account the weight of the magazine or the weight of the weapon itself, but it is a stark reminder of just how much this stuff weighs. It is a comparison that you cannot ignore. And you have to take into account the firepower that you're going to bring to bear. Don't start emailing me yet and saying that I'm an idiot and that, you know, the 12 gauge is super useful and, you know, there are different platforms with different uses and so on and so forth. I'm well aware of that, guys. I am a gunsmith. I know a little bit about it a little bit, okay? So, let's just take a deep breath here. Now, I also want to mention what I was just saying. You have to take into account the firepower that you can bring to bear. I know the shotgun ammo weighs more and you get less, but you have to consider the ammunition. You have to consider how much firepower you can bring to bear, okay? let's talk about this for a second. The largest magazines available for a mag fed shotgun like this is usually going to be a drum mag. Okay. A drum mag. Right. And I think the largest ones I've seen, like for the Sega 12 or something like that, those, um, usually, usually those are going to be in the 20 or 25 round capacity range, okay? 20, 25 rounds, right around there, okay? That is a lot of ammo. That's a heck of a lot of ammo, okay? So let's call it 20 rounds, just for the sake of the math, okay? Let's call it 20, all right? Now, let's do a little math here. If I have 20 shells in my drum, 20 shells, All right. In my drum. And, excuse me, each shell is the two and three quarter 12 gauge. The military issue. Each shell is filled with nine double op buck projectiles. Nine of them. Okay. And each of those nine pellets is 32 caliber, right? 32 caliber pellets. All right. That's nine times 20, nine pellets, 20 shells, nine times 20. That's 180. What's up, Kevin? That's 180, 32 caliber pellets headed downrange at 1300 plus feet per second. And that is in rapid succession. That is a fast-firing semi-automatic firearm. Okay? That's a massive amount of firepower. It has a limited range, but it is a massive amount of firepower. You've got to consider this. You may not be on the side of the shotgun. You may think it has its limited uses, and it does. But... There is very few firearms on earth that can send that much lead that quickly. Okay? That are easily legal and not a problem to own for a civilian is what I'm getting at there. So, 180. 32 caliber pellets headed downrange. Right? Massive firepower. Limited range, but a massive firepower. Okay? Then again, you know, keep in mind, handguns also have a limited range. You know, I mean, so before we move past this real quick, though, let's look at using the larger 3-inch shells. Because those have 15. 32 caliber pellets in them. Fifteen. Basically, the. 32 caliber pellet is going to be the same diameter as a. 32 ACP, okay? It's not going to weigh the same, but it's going to have the same diameter as the. 32 caliber pellet or the. 32 caliber projectile,. 32 ACP, okay? All right, so 15 of those nasty little pellets in there, 15 times the 20 shells that are in the drum. 15 times 20 is... Anybody? Okay, fine. 300. 300 of those nasty little. 32 caliber pellets screaming downrange at your enemy. One right after the other, right after the other, right after the other, as fast as you can pull the trigger. One shell each time you pull that trigger. 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15. Or... If you want to go with the two and three quarter inch, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine. They just keep going and going and going and going and going and going. And they spread depending on your choke and the type of choke and how it's set up and the range and everything else. It depends. But that's scary stuff, guys. That's scary stuff. That is a useful firearm for combat. That is a useful firearm for home defense. However, we need to talk about the buckshot for home defense. Because me, personally, I don't feel comfortable using buckshot for home defense. But I may have to talk about that another day. Because it looks like I'm starting to run out of time here. I've got about a minute and a half. Ahem. Just keep in mind that that level of devastation is nothing to balk at. Some people don't think that the shotgun has any actual use. Some people think that it's not a viable firearm for combat, but I disagree. I really, truly do. There are some downsides to the shotgun. The weight, the capacity... the weight of the shells, you know, multiple downsides. But every firearm, every system, everything has its downside, okay? Keep in mind that, you know, in small units, like let's say SEAL teams, you've got the various different guys in various different roles, okay? You've got your sniper team, you've got your assault team, things like that, right? In every one of those small teams, there is usually one guy or two guys that carry a belt-fed machine gun. Okay? They carry a belt-fed machine gun. All right? Especially in Vietnam, you know, some of them would carry the M60, the pig. All right? And that was set up. That was so... they could send a heck of a lot of ammo downrange super quickly if they needed to. You know, if their guys are trying to get back to their fast boat, they could have that belt-fed gunner and the guy that was lugging his ammo with them lay down a wall of lead so they could get out of there. I mean, do you really think you want to pursue a small team of SEALs with. 30 caliber bullets? headed downrange at you through that jungle? I mean, those 7.62x51 bullets flying down through the jungle at you, dude? You know, belt-fed, that thing is running, what, 600, 800 rounds a minute? No. No, no, no, no, no. Now, think about the shotgun with the double-op buck, okay? Nine pellets every shot, okay? Nine pellets. Imagine pulling that trigger, you know, one time every second. That's nine pellets a second. Nine. 32 caliber pellets a second. Headed out of that thing. Pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow. And you'll want to keep it at about one shot every second so you can control the recoil. Whoa, I went over my time. So you can control... the recoil, okay, shotguns, just like. 308, just like the bigger bullets, they are hard to control, so, especially in rapid fire, so you will need to keep them under control, you know, get a good muzzle break, learn how to keep the shots, you know, in a slower succession, things like that, but that is what I'm talking about, fire superiority, imagine you've got a small unit of of guys that train together, and those guys come under attack. And you've got one guy in the unit. You know, you don't have a belt fed, but you do have one guy in the unit that has a semi-automatic shotgun. And he's got a drum, or he's got a 10-round mag. And he's got double op buck. 15 pellet, 3-inch double op buck. So he starts sending down a wall of lead as your guys beat feet out of that area. As your guys run like heck to get back to safety. Okay, you do the bounding overwatch and you get back to where you are safe. And that guy continues to send that wall of lead out there safe. To the zombies, or to the bad guys, or to the javelina, or whatever the heck happens to be chasing you, I don't know. All I know is massive firepower does have drawbacks, but I think the shotgun does have major advantages, okay? That's going to do it for me tonight, guys. I've got probably plenty of information for another show on this. Let's see. I'm going to go into the triple op book next week. We'll talk more about buck and ball, some of the rounds that are available. We'll talk more about the double-aught and, like I said, triple-aught buck, some of the velocities. We'll talk about some of the other roles for shotguns, like the breaching role. We'll talk about what shells can be used for breaching. There are purpose-built shells for breaching, but we will also talk about some of the ones that aren't purpose-built but can still be used for breaching. according to some of the tests that have been done. If at all possible, I would like to get me and Miles out to a range and get some of the scrap locks and scrap hinges from, you know, Goodwill or Salvation Army or whatever, pop them onto a door, and actually test out some of these alternate breaching tools rounds and see just how good they do. Me and Miles can test these rounds, but I will go over what these rounds are with you guys first before I test them. And then we will do a video and put it up on my YouTube and mine and Miles's YouTube. We'll be, we'll be getting a pretty awesome YouTube channel going pretty quick here, guys. Lots of different ammo tests and product tests and product picks of the week and all kinds of good stuff like that. So Keep your eyes out for that. But, yes, next week we will talk more about combat shotguns. I may see if I can get Miles on. If not, I may see if I can get the Mr. Smedal on. Or who knows? Maybe I'll have a whole different guest, someone who maybe knows a little bit more about shotguns. We shall see. But for now, that's going to do it for me, guys. Thank you for joining me tonight. I'm sorry it's a prerecorded show, but I wanted to give you guys a really, really good one. And the only way I knew how to do that without making you guys wait until 9 o'clock or 10 o'clock at night, was to pre-record it. So I hope you guys enjoyed the Shotgun Show Part 1. I think last week was Part. 5. But this is Part 1. So thank you for joining me. I hope you guys learned a lot. I know I did. If you guys ever want to try your hand at podcasting, please, please message James at PrepperBroadcasting.com. Ask him about it. Don't forget to check out the Friday night show. That's going to be the Dave the NBC guy. Don't forget to check out that show Friday nights. Don't forget to check out the open bunker nights too. I'm not sure what night they're doing that now. But don't forget to check it out. Also, Saturday night, The Family Affair with Jay Ferg. 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