Church & State -The Ten Regions Plan with Jay Jusino

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We had him on before talking about the Great Reset, and now we're going to have them on again talking about the ten Regions plan. Seems like it seems like the enemy might be reading revelation as like a game plan, as like, hey, this is a good idea. They don't go to the end where they lose and spend eternity in the l like a fire. But they seem to be liking to go here as like a game plan for their tyranny that they want to bring about at a global scale. Jay, thanks for joining us on Church and State. Cal Thanks for having me. It's a blessing to be back on. Yeah, it's real pleasure. So let's dive right into this subject is a very important one. Anybody who likes eschatology should know about the ten regions plans, but perhaps they're not paying attention to the fact that it's upon us. Yeah. Absolutely, And let me start mind cale of what's setting a couple of ground rules for this particular topic, because I don't want the listener to get to get too oft in the weeds with certain things. Number One, I want to share my. I guess the core Bible verse principle that I'm trying to personally do or when I say do, trying to make people aware of myself included. And that's the Spetians five elevels. It says, do not participate in the fruitless needs of darkness, but rather expose them. So my heart is to. Expose these things, the fruitless needs of darkness, and in so doing it aids people in seeing what it is and they can avoid participation in that however. The Lord would lead them. So that is the first thing. Second thing, as we talk about this kind of topic, the big white elephant in the room is this theological debate over covenant theology versus dispensatialism and all the views on the millennium, and there's so much there that that could be talked about. Now, these are important issues, irrelevant, but this is obviously a limited format and we just can't do everything right. So therefore, because of that, what I'm going to do is simply my best to focus on the words of the scripture, which I would reading several things, and hopefully we'll be seeing some of that, to just show what it's saying about this topic and just interpreting it very straightforwardly, and then it's up to the listener to be a good brand and decide if what these things are saying are accurate and true. But that's my heart. I want to help people not participate in the frus days of darkness, and I want to not get off in the weeds of all the debates about these things. I just want to read the scripture, look at what's. Happening in the world today, and see if we can't make some connections that right. I really appreciate that. I love where your heart is. You know, you and I have some different beliefs or secondary issues to me, but I appreciate you letting the audience know that, and of course I am right there with you. Exposing the darkness, and that is what the show is about, so please continue. Okay, Well, first of all, I'm just going to just define what regionalism is and just to say that, you know, if you, if your audience, you know, want to of course a value with what I'm saying. If you just type in regionalism to any kind of a search orban, you're going to find all kinds of information. But regionalism is essentially it's development. It's a political, economic, and social system. I'm actually reading this from a website ThoughtCo dot com. Is this word, this particular quote comes from. But here it is. It's based on loyalty to a distinct geographic region with a largely ideologically and culturally homogeneous population. In other words, it's it's intended to. Express the commonality in a region, not a specific state or nation. It's bigger than the state, it's bigger than the nation. And so let me just say this regionalism is is just again it's a political economics system based on loyalty to a distinct geographic region. But I want to say that it also has to do with. Hugely has to do with economics, and of course the free trade word always comes up in this and it's important for your audience, in my opinion, to understand what free trade actually is. And I'm going to read a quote here from actually this is this is off a Conservatipedia, and that's where this come from. But I couldn't agree more with what stated here, so I'm going to read that. It says free trade was advocated by Vladimir Lenin as a tool to overthrow free markets and instill in its place global socialism. Free trade leads to reduced independence and socratetsy of a country. It makes it dependent on other nations, including geopolitical enemies, and leads to a one world government. Globalists push for free trade for such reasons rather than to improve trade. So regionalism is out there and it's basic purpose our sales pitch is economic, but it does not actually free nations. It entangles nations into a larger web of global politics. Jump in here, Ja, because this is such an important issue here. It's it's an example of Orwellian doublespeak. You most people hear the word free trade and they immediately think of capitalism a freedom of liberty, and they misconstrue it with the free market. Now you and I would be advocates of the free market. You have a long care business and I want you to take care of my lawn. That's free market. I can. I'm not I'm not in a contract with you. I can look at your price and say, well, your competitor does better job for a cheaper price, and I can go to that. But free trade as defined by by Vladimir Putin, who's no good guy, ladies and gentlemen, he's not a good guy. I mean, you can, you can. You cannot be on the side of the Ukrainian war. That doesn't mean you're supporting Russia and what they're doing. You can just be on the side of no new wars. But this is a tool by the globalists to promote a one world system. It is. And listen to this. I'm gonna I want you to hear it. And I mentioned you know, some people might you know have a problem with one of the sources I've I've read. Listen, you know, listen to this. Regionalism often results in formal political economic arrangements between two groups of countries or between groups of countries intended to achieve Listen to the word common goals. Now that's a buzzword common goals. That's that's global communism. That's uh, that's it's not uh, you know, historical free market systems. Uh. This whole idea of everything in common is in just web. We've been to the fabric of this idea that we're talking about. Now, let me read one more thing. Economic regionalism results in formal multinational, and I would add the word super rough national, meaning above the nation state agreements intended to enable the free flow of goods quote unquote, there's the free trade right and services between countries. So what I what I want to get at there is exactly what you just said. It's promoted as free. People tend to connect it with free market and and. You know it's not. It's the exact opposite of that. And it entangles people and nations in this multinational And I would get and say supernational situation. I'm going to be reading more about the supernational later on to help people get understanding of what I'm talking about. But yes, you're right, it's a it's a double speak. It's a it's a bait and switch. Right, there's the worm on there, but no one knows the hooks inside. I mean that's the nature of government. You know, when when you hear about, you know, the North American Free Trade Agreement, Uh, it's not actually about the free market. It's about exactly what you're talking about. When when you hear things like you know, patriot or something like that for coming from the government, it's the exact opposite of it. And that's that's very typical of government. It is. If you don't mind, Caleb, I'm going to read just so your listeners know that there are regional there are regions already established out there, and I want to start with the United States regional commissions. You mind if I read those real quick? Sure, there's a whole list that. There's about ten or eleven here. Appalachian Regional Commission, I was the very first one. It was the. Prototype, was the model in the United States. The following list of regional commissions based itself off the Appalachian Regional Commission. There's the Delta Regional Authority, the Southwest Border Regional Commission, the Denali Commission, the mid Atlantic Regional Commission, the Southern New England Regional Commission, the Northern Border Regional Commission, Great Lakes Authority, Northern Great Plains Regional Authority, the Southeast Crescent Regional Commission that's the one I'm in, and Southwest Border Regional Commission. And so just to understand, those are not states, it's regions within the United States that are governed by commissions unelected people, which is important to understand. Now, let's go on to global regions, and I'm going to need ten global regions that are recognized in the media, meaning you can go to the your Internet search and just type in what I'm saying, you'll find these things exist and it roughly corresponds to the Club of Rome nineteen seventy early nineteen seventies map that they came up with. And let me read those right now. And the point I'm making with reading. These is I want your listeners to understand that this isn't conspiracy theory. It's just the way it is. It's fact. You can go there, meaning I mean there's offices. That people sit in with their computers and over these commit over these regions in the United States, and of course these regions that are global. So I'm going to read that list. The European Union, of course, was the first region or global region, and it again just like the Appalachian Regional Commission in the US. It was the prototype or the beginning. It was the first one, and essentially the other region were modeled after the EU. Then there's the Korean China Japan Free Trade Agreement. There's the Australia New Zealand or South Africa Agreement. It's called SIR actually CERTA or inserta ceer, it's abbreviated that way. Number four is the Eastern European Sorry, let me back up, it's the Eurasian Economic Union. It's really Eastern Europe and Russia. Number five it's the Union of South American nations. And number six is the North Africa and Middle Eastern Union. And when you think of North Africa and Middle East, I want you to think of Arabic countries the Arab League. As an example. Israel has thus far, to my knowledge's never been a part of this particular group, but all the rest of those nations have this rough Arab League set. Then number seven is the African Union, meaning specifically Central Africa, not the North African as I just mentioned in not South Africa. South Africa actually is. In the next one, which is the let's see here, let's see the Association of Southeast Asian Nations or ASSION. All right, and then number nine is China, and then number ten I've said for last this is important and this is why I think and hopefully where your listeners will perhaps peak their curiosity here is I'm going to say the North American Union. Formerly, it's been gone by different names in the past, but I would say now there's a new name for the North American Union, which was by and large rejected by conservatives in past decades. But it's now called Greater North America. And we can thank Pete Hegseth for coining that. I'm sure he was only coining what he was told to say. Nevertheless, Greater North America I would equate to the North American Union, And unfortunately it follows roughly the Club of Rome map nineteen seventies, and it also follows the Technocratic or Technocracy map of the nineteen thirties that really set aside this area as a specific area. So there's ten regions global regions in the world. And let me just add quickly before I get your comment. The United Nations recognizes eight global regions. The World Health Organization recognizes six global regions. The World Bank recognizes seven global regions, and the Department of Homeland Security recognizes eight global regions. So not all the regions are one percent firm in exactly who's included and who's not included, and it's not fully set yet, but these exist. Once again, the point. Is to say to the listener, these are this is non conspiracy theory, it's it's sensimically what has been happening since the nineteen seventies, and this is the current state of developmentatly we're. Rat You bring in a lot of really interesting points, and number one, I will reiterate what you just said. These are or established regional global plans. These are on the books. And obviously the European Union. Everybody's familiar with this one, but to a lesser degree many of my audience will say, yeah, I've heard of this one, or this one operates in an area that I've visited or I have relatives in, and so yeah, these are on the map. The other really important point is the North American Union, and anyone who's been in conservative circles, whether you're a constitutionalist or a libertarian or part of the Republican Liberty Caucus, we've all fought this North American Union for a very long time. We identified it as something that was evil, that was something that was taking away our national sovereignty. And now we enter into the Trump era and MAGA and everything is going to be amazing and we're living in this golden age and these same warriors who fought against the North American Union are now just accepting everything. I feel like I feel like I'm on a Toddler show. I'm the host of this Toddler show, and I'm like, where are your eyes? Pointed them with me, you know, like I'm singing little silly songs so I can get the kids involved here, and they're all like, oh, my eyes are right here, Open them, open them. Because Donald Trump and his administration with Pete Hegseth, is pushing a North American Union under a new plan. Yes, it's being pushed under strength, not weakness in the democratic when a democratic president is there in office, and if you have a good democratic you know, elected officials in Congress. Uh, it's weakness that is pushed and the deterioration of the United States. Trump comes along his administration push pushes American greatness. But the plan. Hasn't changed, the names have changed, and the way it's presented has changed, and people Conservatives Christians, as you were just saying, do not recognize it. And so this is such an important point. Let me read just a quote from I guess you just do an Internet search. This has actually come from a brave search, and I'm just reading you know the information that's there. But anyone can do this search and find these things. So I'm going to read a little bit, just a couple of lines. About Greater North America. Let me read this. It says Greater North America here it is is a strategic doctrine unveiled by US War Secretary Pete Hegset in March of twenty twenty six. And here's a key point. It says it redefines and there's the key word. It redefines the US security perimeter. Now, why on earth is the United States all of a sudden going to give security for everyone in this area unless we have redefined our home, if you will. So it is redefines the. US security perimeter to include every sovereign nation and territory north of the equator, stretching from Greenland to Ecuador and from Alaska to Guyana announced that America's Counter Cartel Conference. The framework treats this entire zone not as a part of the Global South, but as an immediate security neighborhood, sharing coastlines with the North Atlantic and North Pacific, bounded geographically by the Amazon in the Andes Mountains. And this is okay. So and quote, this is a technocratic region. This is a region that has been established and they've just established it. They just call it that way. And so when you think of things like Golf of America, you know, Christians Conservatives have been just you know, wearing t shirts Golf of America as if we're supporting Trump and we're supporting Conservative, we're supporting Christianity because of the history of our country, which I'm of course all in favor of. But the point is this Golf of America. When he started talking about Golf of America, taking Greenland, talking about the Panama Canal, you know, Venezuela, the first thing that jumped out of my head. This is very early in his second term. I'm like, this is the North American Union. It's just got a different name. And I believe this is exactly what it is. I'm no profit don't claim to be a prophet, but it's not rocket science. What we're dealing with here is the North American Union, only renamed and rebranded under a show of US. Force and strength. Yeah, well, Jay, if you were claiming to be a prophet, I probably wouldn't have you on the show. But no, you're right here is we need to be paying attention as Americans, as Christians, as conservatives, people who love liberty. When Venezuela occurred, I had the exact same thought. Here, here we go again, inserting ourselves into a sovereign country. Are they an enemy? Sure, but you know what, their embrace of communism was destroying them already. We didn't have to add to that. But yes, the Panama Canal all the way to Greenland, when all these conservatives got all excited about, Hey, we're going to make Greenland the fifty first state, or we're going to make Canada the fifty first state, Like, why do we need that? We have so many issues within our own borders that we could focus on to truly make America great again. There has to be another agenda behind it. And here is a sales It's a sales pitch. Just that's the agenda absolutely, and I'm just gonna make I'm gonna tie it to scripture shortly, but if you don't mind him and make a link, I want to make a link to how this could be the case, because sometimes this stuff I'm presenting is just so overwhelming to people, they get glassy eyed and they just don't want to they don't even know how to process it because it's it's counter to what they think. Is really happening. And so if you don't mind, I'm going to go through where this came along historically, and then we're going to get into some scripture regarding how we can see. This in the Bible. Is that all right? Please do okay? So the rise of modern regionalism, I would just easily the easy answer here is to start with the Rothschilds in the seventeen hundreds. This this banking family seven, so I believe it was the seven sons. And long story short is. These sons got you know, banking positions and in multiple nations. All they all were working in different nations. So when Europe went to war, the bankers won right. And so no matter who was on whose side or who was fighting who, it was the bankers getting rich because these armies were simply borrowing money to fund. Their war efforts. And so this is an example of supra nationalism. In other words, these bankers were above the nations. They weren't interested in the nations per se. They weren't loyal to their nation of where they lived, where they were from. They were loyal to their ability to make money and to gain power by making that money. And so let's pass forward to to last century with Thomas J. Watson, president of iv M. Interestingly enough, he was also a president of the International Chamber of Commerce, which was fascinating, and he was I believe they had at one time with the Carnegie and Donald for peace, which is all another topic we could talk about for a long time. But let me read a quote from a book Rick guarding Watson, and this is again the whole point here is I'm trying to help people understand how regionalism has developed historically in the modern history and why someone like Trump might be involved with it, whether he understands it or not, which I believe he does. But let's keep going. Here's the book. Here's the book. I'm going to quote from a fascinating book. It's IBM and the Holocaust, the strategic alliance between Nazi Germany and. America's most powerful corporation. The quote is coming from page five hundred ninety and five hundred. And ninety two. And so this a little bit of a it's about four paragraphs. Let me just get right to it and you'll get the point as we go. Quote one more sentence of introduction. This I'm going to be quoting talking about here Harold J. Carter in the book. This is a person that's been discussed. He was the Department of Justice Economic War nineteen forty three, and what I'm quoting is from his eighteen page report as he was seeking a subpoena to investigate IBM's role in the Third Reich by seizing company files and documents. So this guy knew IBM was fraternizing with the Nazis. He wanted to get their documents, he wanted a subpoena, and this was his document to gain that subpoena. The short story is he never did get the subpoena. But you'll see why as we read through this. So I'm going to read now, starting with the quote. It says quote further and this is Harold J. Carter reading or writing further, we have a peculiar clash of interests. This world war is a conflict of warlike nationalistic states, each having certain interests. Yet we frequently find these interests clashing diametrically with the opposing interests of international corporate structures, more huge and more power. Powerful the nation's key point. There these corporate entities are managed not by staffs of citizens of any nation, but by citizens of the world, looking solely to the corporate interests and pledging loyalty there too, we see revealed in this class this dichotomy of culture between our nation and an international corporation whose interests do not coincide. These international corporations have grown so large that very often their interests are the national interest, and sorry that very often their interests are the national interests within which they are supposedly contained, do not coincide. The personnel of IBM, though nominally citizens of the United States, is actually composed of citizens of the world. Their loyalties to their corporation no no national bounds. Mister Thomas J. Watson, president of IBM, was one of the leading figures in the international peace movement. Not for altruistic motives alone. IBM's fire flowing empire was going much too smoothly to be interrupted by war. And mister Watson's goal is profit. Certainly, it can be said, and this is the last line, that this company, Thomas J. Watson, his IBM company, is not an American company, but an international company. The entire world citizenry is hampered by an international monster. End quote. And so my conclusion is that number one, regionalism is real. It has developed historically, it exists today as a as a supra national mindset. Quote I just read where the company. Is literally bigger than a nation and which in which nation states actually serve as enforcement arms of the global corporate interest. That is my conclusion to the first part. I want to go into next. This scripture, and we can say, let me pause you there on the scripture because we're coming up on a heartbreak here. So what we'll come back and do the scripture, but real quick with what you were saying there, Republicans in particular really need to be paying attention to that because they pulled the wool over our eyes. And what they've done is, look, we have to be pro business, we have to be pro big business, because that's capitalism. Ladies and gentlemen, we have to support capitalism in this country. It's in our DNA for those of us who associate with a Republican Party. But this is an entirely different monster. And I love the quote that you read because these individuals, they aren't Americans in the traditional sense. Maybe they reside here, maybe their business was started here, but they are not looking towards American interest. They are looking towards exactly what you said profit. That is their underlying goal. Power and money. When you talk to any detective when they're investigating a murder, there's three things that they're looking at. Power, money, or sex. That is the motive for every single one of these these murders. That is the motivation for these individuals who at the very top. That's the true enemy here. They got us divided. And I talk about this a lot on the show, the left versus the right. It's not like that, ladies and gentlemen. It's the top versus the rest of us who are all at the bottom. As George Carlin said, it's a big club and you ain't in it. Jay's and they're using the left and the right to mask what they're doing exactly. Yeah, So Jay, we're gonna hit that hard break and we're gonna come back and we're gonna talk about the scriptural references to what you're talking about. This is Caleb Collier with Church and State. Are you tired of your device spying on you? Ladies and gentlemen. We live in nineteen eighty four. Your phones, your tablets, your smart televisions, they all are spying on you. And this is why I heavily endorse Mark thirty seven dot com. This is everything you need for your digital privacy. Phones, tablets, laptops, all of them are ghost protocols, so that means that you are in charge of your own data. 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I'm going to start with Revelations chapter seventeen, verses twelve and thirteen, and I'm just going to read the words. Here we go. The ten horns which you saw are ten kings, all right, who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beasts. These are of one mind. And here's the key point, and they will give their power and authority to the beast. So people not familiar with the scriptures. In this particular case, the Book of Daniel, Book of Revelation, a horn as is defined right here, that ten horns, it says, are ten kings. Well knowd horn is is right there. It's the ten Kings revelation in seventeen twelve. And they are going to they are going to actually rule and receive authority with the beast. The beast, of course. Is this king also that has a kingdom that's going to rise in time. But here's the key point again, they will give their power and authority to the beast. So when I talk about the Greater in North America and Pete hegsa's announcement and essentially he's announcing the North American Union with a different name under a different guys. Of the position of us strength and not us weakness, we need to understand that if this is one of these horns, one of these ten regions, which I've already read, that these ten regions exist in the world and have for many of them for a long time, it says they're giving their power and authority to the beasts. And we don't want to ask Christians, we don't want any part of that, all right, So again, do not participate in the fruit of the seeds of the darks, but rather expose them. So this is a critical text to understand what a horn is and the relationship of the horn to the beast. And that's Revelation twelve. I'm sorry, seventeen twelve and thirteen. Now let me say this is why this is a big deal. If this is being set up in its final form with Trump and Hegsath, meaning if we are one of if our area, Greater North America, is one of those ten regions, then we as American citizens, are being set up to build and support the Antichrist kingdom. It's been building since the seventeen hundreds, but it is being set up as a distinct region and kingdom. Now notice I'm not saying that we're in the Book of Revelation, etc. It's being set up. This is the groundwork. The groundwork has been laid for a long time, but we're we're really reaching that almost the culmination of this, and so it's important that we expose this. You can comment, Caleb after any text I read, but I'm going to go on to the next one if I don't hear an insertion from you, So please feel free to comment, but I'm going to go to Revelation twelve. To three next, go right ahead, all right? Then another sign appeared in heaven, and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his heads were seven diadems. Now I'm gonna read what those seven heads are in just a minute. But there's the ten horns. Again. We already defined what a horn was in the previous text, Revelation thirteen to one. And the dragon stood on the seashore. And then I saw a beast coming up out of the sea, having ten horns and seven heads, And on his horns were ten diadems, and on his heads were blasphemous names Revelation seventeen three. And he carried me away in the spirit into a wilderness, and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast full of blasts names, having seven heads and ten horns. So you can clearly see the theme here. Now let's go to the Book of Daniel to get some context for these heads and horns. We already talked about the horns how they're defined. This revelation defines them. The ten horns are ten kings. Let's look at about these heads for a minute and this kingdom that's gonna rise. So I'm gonna start with Daniel, chapter seven, verse twenty three, and I'm gonna eventually get to verse twenty four, but let's start with twenty three. It says, thus he said the fourth beast, And again, what is the beast? Well, it says right here, the fourth Beast will be a fourth kingdom on the earth, which will be different from all the other kingdoms and will devour the whole earth and trend it down and crush it. Okay, so there's globalism, all right, and it's not a happy situation. The globalists present their model as a happy situation. We're all gonna own nothing and be happy. But it's not a happy situation. This is what is coming. Now, let's quickly go to Daniel chapter two, verses forty through forty four, and I'm gonna really I'm going to go back to the seven twenty three where it says the fourth Beast will be a fourth kingdom. And what on earth is this fourth kingdom? Well, if you just look at the kingdoms that these are, basically there's a list of seven gentile kingdoms. I'm just going to list them, all right. Egypt was the. First one, Assyria, the second one Babylon, the third one Medio Persia, the fourth one Greece, the fifth one, Rome the sixth one, and looking at it, reunited Rome as the seventh, and the Antichrist kingdom, as called the Little Horn, is the eighth. Now it's a lot of information, but let me just I just needed to get that list out and recognize that in the Book of Daniel's Time, Daniel said the fourth beast, sorry, will be a fourth kingdom. Why did he say fourth out of that seven I just read was because in Daniel's day, Egypt, Syria had already fallen. There was only four left to go, if you will, all right, So he says a fourth kingdom. But Revelation talks about seven kingdoms. Because Revelations talking about going all the way back to Egypt and including all of them together. That's why you get the distinction between the fourth kingdom and the seven Heads. All right, So let me read then with that as a little introduction, let me read Revelation seventeen nine through eleven. It says this the seven heads. And there's again, what are these heads I just listed? I listed those seven historical gentile kingdoms. It says the seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. And you'd say a lot of people say, well, that's that's Rome, seven mountains. Rome sits on seven hills. But listen to what it says, and they are seven kings. So you could read it this way. The seven heads are seven kings. All right, well, what's what's what's a king? Well, king's rule kingdoms. So the seven heads are seven kings. Five have fallen, are right? And this is the tie or the time of this writing. John was writing this, and at that time Egypt is Syria, Babylon, Medio, Purgia, and Greece had already fallen. That's five. The one that was not fallen was Rome, because that was actually ruling in his day. The one is that's the rom and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, notice it says he he must remain a little while. Then it says the beast which was and is not is himself also in eighth and is one of the seven. He goes to destruction. So I know some listeners be saying, ah, that's too much information that has to be said to understand that the ten horns are in context with these seven heads, the seven heads and ten horns. It's a culination of the ages in this time in the Book of Revelation. Now let me go on to say in Daniel chapter two, I'm going to go on and finish, Actually I'm going to finish verse twenty four unless you have a comment before I do you have a comment on that at all? Yeah, I mean, obviously this is a lot of information and we don't want to confuse the audience here at all. But this is in the two books that most people that are fascinated by eschatology will go to. Daniel has Daniel has often been described as kind of the revelation of the Old Testament, and so both of these have to do with future events, and they're identifying these tyrants that are going to emerge here. And you can see clearly that this plan and I'm kind of going back to the first scripture you read, but this plan has been going on for a considerable amount of time. A lot of people will look at like the League of Nations and see that as a failure. I would say Woodrow Wilson did exactly what he was supposed to do. He introduced the idea, it's almost the art of the deal, right, and then you backtrack a little bit, and ultimately what results is the United Nations. So this plan continues to move forward ultimately, and we know we're not as human beings, We're not gonna be able to stop this because this is actually part of God's plan to bring about this isn't necessarily Lucifer his plan. This is God's plan to allow this to occur. And whoever, whatever generation is part of this. I'm not saying we are. It's going to be some trying times for us. But please continue with the scripture here. Right, And yes, I understand it's a lot of scripture for people who haven't studied it. My main point to stress here is that it is in the scripture, and the scripture itself defines the terms. Especially when good Book of Revelation, it is hard for people to understand what does this mean? What's a horn, What's a king? What's a beast? Well, the Book of Daniel defines these things for us, and of course therefore you want to read both of them. But again I'm just trying to say that this is this is just literal words from. The scripture and t let me kind of try to bring this to a close here. And it's talking about the ten horns. Remember, the ten horns are ten kings. And I'm reading now from let's see, I think it's Daniel seven twenty four's know what it says in the days of those kings? All right, the God of Heaven will set. Up a kingdom which will never be destroyed, and that kingdom. Will not be left for on other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, but it will itself endure forever. So that's great, that's great encouragement for the Christian who's born again, washed by the blood of Christ, Christ being sufficient. For their to cover to pay for their sin. In the days of those kings, all right, the God of Heaven will set up a kingdom which will never be destroyed. So if we see. The kingdom the ten regions, I'm suggesting that regionalism, the modern rise of regionalism, of course. Responds to the creation of these ten kings. And in the. Days of those kings, because we know those kings, we've already read from the scripture that the purpose of those kings is to give their authority to the beast. It's at that time that God will establish his kingdom on earth by destroying all those other kingdoms. And so that's I hope that kind of summarizes that. Let me read, I looking at our time here, I think I got enough time to read the next thing. Do you want to comment on what I just said? Or not. No, go, go right ahead, okay, Daniel. Seven, twenty three and twenty four. Then just help us see what the beast is. It's a kingdom, and it also tells us what the what's going to happen with that kingdom in the end, it's going to devour the whole earth. Remember, the ten horns are ten kings that will rule with that beast. Okay, So I'm going to read. Now I'm going to continue to read. I'm at verse twenty four of Daniels seven. As for the ten horns. Okay, so what about these ten horns we're talking about? So I'm suggesting these ten regions out of this kingdom, ten kings will arise, and another will arise after them and will be different from the previous ones and will subdue three kings. Now, this is fascinating. So we're going to have this, this ten horn, these ten kingdoms that will be ruled. By ten kings. Now, I want to point out something real fast. There's nothing here about democracy or functioning elections at this time, all right, so let's just something to look at and say, all right, what's the world going to head toward? But anyway, these ten kings will arise, and eventually this one who rises after them will subdue three kings. And so here's my comment on that scripture. It is my opinion that this means that three of those kings those horns, which Daniel two defines them as toes. You look at the statue of Daniel and Daniel chapter two, there's ten toes. Those toes are the same as the horns, which are the same as the kings. They're synonyms. So I'm going to repeat it's my opinion that this means that three kings or horns or toes of the ten, all right, will rebel against the anti Christ, against that lawless one that will come, because here it says that he will indue three kings, and this is the text. Now my question, then, what about the United States? Will remember, you know a lot of people say, where's the United States and Bible prophecy, Well, it's not apparently mentioned, but it probably won't exist in the form that it did in our lifetime. In that way, I would submit, it's going to move into the region we just got discussed. The greater North America, and it will. Be just simply defined that way. Increasingly. The question, though, is Trump or someone. Like Trump, given his demeanor, Could he be one of those kings that rebels eventually? I'm saying not this minute, but as time goes on, could he be one of those kings at rebel? He has the disposition in my opinion, only time will tell. I don't know what's going to happen, but it's fascinating to see that there's going to come ten kings over ten regions, and three of them will be subdued by the lawless one, the Antichrist that will come. You know, Jay, That's a fascinating point right there too, because a lot of people have wandered about these three kingdoms, the ones that are going to rebel, and a lot of people have come on the side of these are people who are you know, leaders who are eventually going to identify the evil of the Antichrist. That's a possibility, and sure the United States could be one of those. South America, the South American region being predominantly Catholic, could be another one if that's the case, But it also could be the opposite. It could be a region like China that's just like, you know what, we want to be the most powerful and we're going to rebel against you, so that there's no guarantee that's that's the good guys that are rebelling. No, absolutely, there's gonna be three, and it certainly wouldn't be. The reason I say Trump is not to necessarily put him on the. Good side category. It's to say his disposition seems to be. They would lend itself to a rebellion in that sort of situation. But no, yeah, similar to similar to Putin, he would be another person who would be like, you know what, No, I'm going to rebel against. You exactly, and maybe she you know, from China. I mean, who knows who it's going to be, but it has to be, uh, those three have to be ones that are powerful enough to think that they could actually gain victory in that situation. You follow, It's probably not going to come from one of the lesser king kingdoms. But anyway, I don't know. Let me read my conclusion and then and then I'm actually done with. My with my you know, general throughout to the arguments, and we could talk about it afterwards. But let me read this. It says to what we see today literally now in my you know, obviously my opinion, what I'm putting out here is the geopolitical wrangling too. Goal is to set up these ten kings, all right. Trump has with heg Seth announcement just brought to bear and no one can see it. Part of my issue here is no one's seeing this. When I say no one there there are a few people out there talking about this, but very few. But anyway, with Trump's with hegg Seth announcement, it's just been brought to bear the creation of the North American defense region called the Greater North America. All right, as Trump plays his role in achieving through strength what democratic predecessors could not achieve through weakness. Now when I say they could not achieve it, what I. Mean is they, as you already said earlier, they were just playing their part. The weakness part is played, then the strength is played. I would submit the. Globalists setting up of these ten regions and moving us into a global government situation, a beast situation has advanced more with the strength position, the Trump position, because he's the one that has set the technocracy on steroids in my view, So anyway, that's my conclusion. I believe we're simply living in the time that this is being set up. It's actually finishing the setup process. The setup has been going on since the seventies. It is now and earlier, of course, but it is now actually getting to the spot where it's basically ready. That's my opinion, and I'll let you come in. No, and I would agree with your position on this. And I've talked about this on the show before. So oftentimes under a Republican president, we see the most egregious attacks on our individual sovereignties and liberties. George Bush is an example that I threw out there all the time with the Patriot Act, which was not very patriotic at all. But yeah, you're right. They they get us caught in this intentional divide, and they install their presidents. And honestly, ladies and gentlemen, I truly believe that all of our presidents have been installed, not freely elected. But they get a weak one. They get they get could I say, the Democrat Party is the is the party of you know, the more of the the the nanny state, you know, take care of everything, take care of you from cradle to gray, and the welfare state, and the Republican Party is more that warfare state. And so here we go we've got a Republican in and we're pushing what appears to be an agenda for the ten regions. And and I really appreciate you coming on the show and spelling this out very very concisely for the audience. And I'll just say this, we're running down to the end of show. We have actually gone a little bit longer, but I'll turn it back over to you. But Jay, I mean, I think right now, we as Christians in particular, really need to identify this and stop going along with their plans. Going back to what you how you started this episode. Ephesians five eleven have nothing to do with the works of darkness. Yeah, that's my heart. I mean, uh, we can't avoid what we don't recognize is happening. And that's really what I'm from. And then that that very text itself says to expose that darkness. So that's all I'm trying to do. I'm not I'm not over consumed in it, and I'm not pushing fear. It's not the point. Hey, if you don't know what you're doing, you're going to do the wrong thing. So we've got we've got to see see it for what it is. I'm just trying to call an ace and ace and I don't think a lot of conservative people, a lot of Christians are not saying pastors don't see this at all. I mean as a as a group. I mean Bill Billy Crome got a like media. I recommend him. He sees this very clearly and does a good job with it. About most pastors that I mean, you know that I'm hearing them talking to and seeing they're just they're just they glass over. When you talk about this. Stuff, you're absolutely right and to their own peril, and not just to their own peril, but to the sheep's peril as well. Because the pastors are supposed to be the shepherds, and we should be talking about all of these things. We should be able to identify them when they come our way. Jay, I'm gonna I'm gonna bring up your Rumble page here, the War for Truth right here, Ladies and gentlemen, if you'd like to watch some of the work of my guest here, you can go to Rumble The War for Truth. Jay has been a just a dynamite episode. I look forward to having you back. In my first episode, we talked about the Great Reset. This one the ten regions. I'm sure we'll have plenty more to talk about as well. Absolutely, thank you so much, Chavis, to have been a great blessing. Thank you. Absolutely all right, I'm gonna go ahead and close this out if you hold on one more minute post production and Sarah goodbyes. I appreciate it, but again, thank you for joining us on Church and State. You bet, thank you. All right, ladies and gentlemen, there you are. 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