Matter of Facts: What Did The Preppers Forget?

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[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_00]: So for sure before we get the topic

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_00]: You said you forgot something when we were talking about canning the other time the other day

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I did and one of the patrons called me on it. Thank you for that by the way

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[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Facts like the Facebook group

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Stewart is a grumpy old fart that has forgotten more about prepping than I know and

[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Encyclopedic knowledge of my new show. Yes, and the wacky part of it is like you have to understand

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_00]: They're like so useful

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_00]: He's been well, but he's into preparedness since before was called preparedness

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Since he was a teenager

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_00]: You know and he is about this close to retirement age. So that gives you an idea

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_00]: He's been doing this longer than I've been alive and very frequently. He is he's my guru

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_00]: So when I can't figure something out, he's usually the person that has the

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_00]: He's usually the person with the the correct answer

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Or at least know somebody who does but in this case it was about the difference between

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Water bath and pressure canning and why the difference is important

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_01]: So botulism is about everybody's heard of it bad the bacteria that can cause paralysis and kill you kind of thing

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_01]: so there's

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_01]: two things about it low acid foods is

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Where botulism can grow? That's your biggest risk factor right there

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_01]: the reason being is

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_01]: The

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Botulism spores can survive the temperature of boiling water

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_01]: So just boiling water alone is not enough to kill those spores

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So it doesn't start producing reproducing in in the anaerobic environment

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So your pressure can it to get a higher temperature and hold at that higher temperature

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_01]: To handle the botulism spores and that's really the key difference for that

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_00]: so if you don't want to

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Die horribly well, I was gonna say turn your toilet in a modern art and then die worse than that

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, it's it's not great, you know, it's

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll follow

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll file that under what not to do because I know we had a whole section on what not to do when canning

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, don't can low acid foods in the water bath. It's just don't do it

[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_00]: but for today I

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Was searching the internet as I do some times and came across this article

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I shared with you which I thought actually had some kind of good points that it

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Actually some very good ones. So the topic of that article which is down in the show description was

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Something to the effect of what do my prepper? What did my prepper friends forget and it's

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Really, I thought it was you know, some of it was kind of like no does some of it was a little bit cheeky

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_00]: One or two things I don't totally agree with but the majority of it was like I thought like really good cautionary tales for

[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Not if you've been in preparedness for five minutes if you've been in preparedness for five minutes

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a whole bunch of stuff you need to do before you even get to the point of introspective

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_00]: What do I need to go back and cover down on?

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_00]: But that being said this would probably be good good useful information for most people

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Just so that as they put together a preparedness plan they can think about oh, I hadn't thought of that

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_00]: But I probably should now

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Instead of doing this the way I did where I had been into preparedness for several years and then turn around look back

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like oh

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a couple of things. I forgot and I need to go back and cover up for sure

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_00]: So I guess let's start off with like number one you can't trade with unprepared people which

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_00]: This has kind of been some that's been like very hotly contested in the preparedness world

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Because there's that school thought that says you need extra stuff so you can trade

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_00]: You need if you don't drink vodka you should still have vodka so that you can trade with be able to do drink vodka that that's sort of methodology or

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, you should have extra ammo so you can trade with other people and yada yada yada

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_00]: But the thing that was pointed out by this person that I find hard to disagree with is you can't trade with unprepared people like the majority of

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Population isn't gonna have a pot to pee in when things go really really really bad

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_00]: So all this stuff you have to trade with there's no one to trade with you because they don't they don't have anything like

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_00]: If a person's already struggling to put food on the table

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_00]: What could they possibly have that you're gonna want unless you're gonna trade like jet skis for bags of rice?

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_00]: You know something crazy labor

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Labor is gonna be the number one

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you ever try to plant a garden by hand

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_00]: No

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_01]: It sucks. It's a lot of work

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if you got a gas road until you can do it a little bit faster

[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_01]: But if you if you have to manually till and plant and weed a garden

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Your biggest shortfall has always been and will always be a labor

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why farmers always had so many kids

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's also an option. Well, it's you know, it's not it's not colorful. It's not glamorous

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not great. Nobody likes that

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, that's what they did and even not that long ago. In fact my grandpa's mother

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Was one of those kids out of the inner city that was jobbed out to a farmer

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_01]: To be a nanny for his kids when his wife died

[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_01]: They ended up getting married. That's where my grandpa comes from my my grandma's sister

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_01]: was a like suburban city kid that was quite literally

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Jobbed out to a wealthy couple in Chicago that needed a house care person

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_01]: These things happened all the time two and three generations ago and they go on right now in the third world

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And they will happen again

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_01]: If it gets bad enough

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_01]: So there is some things you could trade them for yeah, sure

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_01]: You could trade them some food for some labor you could trade them some ammunition for some labor

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Though I don't recommend trading away ammunition to people you don't know very well

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_00]: It tends to return at high velocities. Yeah, I mean that kind of seems like the reason why every every third world

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Dictatorship is very hesitant to arm the rabble. It's like it's like when the Ukraine started passing out AK

[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_00]: 47s to just like granny and teenagers and everything

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_00]: That's when you knew things were at another level because they're giving out guns to normal people all of a sudden

[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know it at a point when you're a small country

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Trying to hold the line against a larger more at least bigger economic and larger population country

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You have to make those those tough calls

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_00]: The tricky part is going to be making sure you stay in power after you've armed your entire populace

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Well a government that just won a war tends to be more popular than one that lost one

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Can I find it hard to argue with them so now now and just here and you want to make sure you win

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because if not and if you're and if you're at that point which they were and they still are

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_01]: What do you have to lose because Putin's probably not gonna be very kind to your opposition party

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Putin won't be kind to anybody

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_01]: But you know

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_00]: So this article also pointed out like the good old-fashioned you won't make it without community which

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_00]: This is like the heart this is like one of those things that's extraordinarily difficult though because like I find that if you live in certain areas

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Finding your community is extraordinarily difficult and there's actually another the very next item after this kind of goes with this

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_00]: but

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Finding your community can be difficult knowing who you can trust can be difficult

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't know why but this seems like the Venn diagram around prepared people into preparedness tends to be have a lot of overlap with

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_00]: People they kind of like to keep themselves and be kind of solitary

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_00]: So there might be a certain amount of like emotional

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to deal with other people

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_00]: But you kind of have to because you need the support of the people around you like

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_00]: You know like that's that's a tricky thing. That's why during times. That's why during good times

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_00]: To the best of my ability I try to be you know on speaking terms with my neighbors

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_00]: My wife's better at them that than I am but you know, she's better at anything social than I am

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_01]: You know it it goes to what we were talking about with Rick

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You need to have at the very least open lines of communication with the people around you if for nothing else than advanced warning

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm. If that's the bare minimum that you can get because of the political situation of where you are, I mean

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Illinois not exactly a bastion of preparedness

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_01]: not exactly a bastion of classical liberalism either but

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_01]: If you can do better than that if you can find a few neighbors that are at least on the same page enough that they have say a

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Generator to when the next winter ice storm rolls through or the next hurricane

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I forget which the hurricane to hit you I don't

[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Hurricane Ida comes through that's if you get two of those well, that's two more houses

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Assuming they don't get a direct impact and are destroyed that you

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Won't have to deal with as much not having their own supplies

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean at the very least if you can convince them to have two three days

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Worth of anything to get themselves through that solves 95 percent of emergency situations

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Is a well-funded savings account in two or three days of food? Well in the earth thing

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_00]: it's difficult is and this isn't so much like

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_00]: the political social leanings of the

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Stature in but like down where we live like what I live in the suburbs

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna tell you that the majority of the people and that live in this subdivision with me

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Do not have you know like my vision equipment and a generator and fuel and six months of food like I

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Live and I live around a lot of people who are more concerned about I need to make a boat payment

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Or I need to make a jet ski payment or you know silly stuff like I don't have enough money for groceries left that too

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_00]: So I guess what I'm saying is like in some cases the problem is not the problem

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Is not so much like this next this next bullet point points out left or right your world worldviews costing you allies

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mean, I'll admit that in today's day where we have like this hyper polar polarization going around around politics like

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_00]: This person's point was you're gonna need to set that aside to find out why I don't know that I totally agree with that

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Really don't and this isn't

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Because understand like for me, this isn't a a left versus right thing. This isn't whether you're conservative or you're progressive

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_00]: That's that's not my concern

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_00]: my concern is more of

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Do I believe other people can put aside their

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Opinions there whatever's to be in the to be allies with me

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_00]: So to me it's like I'm willing to make bedfellows

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_00]: In bad situations with people who are willing to help me and my family survive and I can help them survive

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm willing to do that, but I'm always gonna wonder if

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm then gonna have to worry about that person when I take an action and they begin to judge me through their lens

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_01]: You see where I'm going with this. It's think that the type of personality that gets into preparedness really heavily

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Does lean a little bit to the paranoid and I've said that about myself a lot

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I have enough plumbing supplies

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_01]: to rebuild almost every bathroom in my house

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Because

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_01]: God forbid at 3 a.m

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_01]: There's water running across my floor because it's never at 4 30 before before the hardware store closes

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a little episode we'll have to do later is talking about basic homeowner home improvement maintenance stuff

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_00]: You should have around I've got that on the list ahead as a time. Yeah, that's good

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna need to talk about that but you know

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you always could have that person like we all I'm sure you guys in the Patreon group remember me talking about my

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Less than neighborly neighbor next door to me who no matter what you do will not be on good terms with anyone

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_01]: She is currently in dispute in very angry disputes with everyone that has a property boundary with her

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Including the state and county road commission. She sounds like she believes she owns part of the road

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_01]: She's not a stable individual

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_01]: She's not a mentally healthy individual. She has had a very hard life and I can't blame her for seeing people as enemies

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_01]: But that doesn't change the fact that she is going to be there one way or another

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Good or bad

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So you got to find a way to if if you can't get along with them at the very least

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Be indifferent passers-by to each other with people

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that the biggest reason why we can't do that now is people are number one not hungry enough and number two

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Not desperate enough. There's probably some truth to that like I said, I guess I guess a lot of my majority people

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean look at look at the gamification and the

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Team sportification of politics lately. Why did politics get so popular because COVID?

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Everything was shut down people didn't have any of their normal distractions

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So what did they turn to they turned to the next greatest team sport, which is politics bread and circus, huh?

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_01]: bread and circus

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the circus was gone and

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_01]: The bread was you know not your favorite brand anymore

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like I said, I and that's what it that's what it did

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like I said, I guess like just me personally like my biggest assert will always be that again coming from the military background that I do I

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Know that if things get bad enough

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I am willing to embrace a level of viciousness most other people would be uncomfortable with and

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_00]: So it gets bad enough. Yeah, but I

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Have faith in my wife and daughter to understand that if dad and husband is going there

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_00]: It's because I deem it necessary to protect my family

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_00]: But if I but as I brought yeah, but as I brought in that group out

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm thinking have to deal with

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Person a or person B that says whoa, that was a little over the line

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And at that point I know my default reaction is going to be I didn't ask your opinion

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_00]: This is not a this is not a democracy

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_00]: We're not voting on how things get done here

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_00]: You're in my group because you came to me because I had stuff you needed you can buzz off just as fast you came here

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think I think there's gonna be an interesting an interesting thing there with those people

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Probably will not stick around very long

[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_01]: if a person is not willing to collaborate with the group and with the authority structure that has been built in the group

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Historically what happens is exile

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, not saying that you want to do it because they probably got family

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_01]: They probably got kids and they could come back and they could be mad

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_01]: But that's why again community is important because if the entire neighborhood is saying look

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_01]: This is the way it has to be and you're the odd man out

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Pure pressure is a terrible thing until you need it

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Agree to disagree. I think pure pressure is a wonderful tool that should be applied in most instances

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Right. Well, it's what I'm saying is like it can like any tool it can be applied destructively or beneficial true

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_00]: If you need 40,000 rounds of ammo your strategy is suboptimal

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_00]: What a wonderful way of saying that you can't shoot your way out of the apocalypse despite what?

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Hollywood has tried desperately to teach us over the years as I and I say that as I'm wearing the

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_00]: What what would Bert do shirt, you know

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, kill it with fire make bombs shoot with an elephant rifle

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm saying you don't need 40,000 rounds of ammo which we really don't you really don't and I'll tell you honestly

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I've had this conversation so many times people over the years where they

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_00]: They do what most people do when they look up at the top of the mountain from the base of it

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And they're like how do I get up there? And then I point out to them. I'm like

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_00]: To be more prepared than you are today

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_00]: You need 200 rounds of ammo a reliable firearm and enough food water for three days

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Bing bang boom you you have already upgraded yourself dramatically more than what you're at today

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_00]: For not a huge money or time investment not even like learning skills are getting deep into this not planting crops in your backyard

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Just go to the grocery store spend a little bit more than usual

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Go spend three four hundred bucks on a nine millimeter handgun and 200 rounds of ammo and maybe a spare magazine for feeling really, you know

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Really enthusiastic and I'm not saying that's that's it. You're prepped

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying that you are now more prepped than you were yesterday and that's kind of the goal

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not how do I get from here to the top of the mountain in one step?

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a journey up the mountain and how do I get how do I get to the next ledge by walking?

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just to put it just to put it in perspective here 40,000 rounds of ammunition

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what you feel I used to do a little bit of competitive shooting not a lot little bit

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I trained a lot. I shot about 4,000 rounds a year out of my nine millimeter

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_01]: That is 10 years of

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Semi-serious competition training

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to be doing that

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Number one just because of the time investment

[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_01]: absolutely raggle-fraggle

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_01]: avoidance deescalation

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Always your best benefit even today

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_01]: If you see more so than Phil did you see that stupid video?

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember what state it was on guy come guy gets out of his car with a handgun

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Comes up on somebody's truck and starts hitting the truck with the gun

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Changes hands then brings his dominant hand God smoked

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah got smoked got domed with two rounds. Yeah, all right

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_01]: What possible reason could you have to number one get out of your vehicle during rubber age and number two start?

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Smashing on someone's car with a handgun because he was intending to use do you know why because he was stupid

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, stupidity

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the only outcome there is

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Prison time in the best case because everybody's got a video camera nowadays and you know that shit's going on tiktok or number two

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_01]: The other idiot in the car smokes your ass and I'm glad that the guy in the car one who was the victim

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_01]: That's how it should end

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_01]: But you know what?

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Now that guy's family is down either husband a father or a son

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Because he could not manage his temper and deal with the fact that he was probably cut off in traffic

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, this is also why like in the past whenever we've had conversations around

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Like concealed carry or being the armed citizen and all that like I have always gone back to the side

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Did two ideas every fight you avoid you win by default if it can be avoided there if someone's threatening my wife or daughter

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Fights you cannot avoid I don't count that as fights

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I can avoid because if I have to lose my wife or child to avoid the fight. It's not avoidable. Sorry guys

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_00]: We're about to go to Def Con one, but if it's somebody bites their thumb at me or calls me names or whatever

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't even begin to tell you how low down Phil's totem pole of things. I give a f about

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_02]: You know like ordered for several months straight. Phil doesn't give a shit about swear words

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I grew up past my dad tools while he worked on cars

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing you could say to me that is going to hurt my feelings that bad

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_00]: My dad wasn't too bad but matter of fact my you'll get a kick out of this my daughter was

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_00]: My daughter was cruising

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_00]: The internet the other day and the next thing I know I hear Arleigh Ermey's voice coming out of coming out of the house

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_00]: It was the drill sergeant scene from Full Metal Jacket

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And after my and instead of like shutting it down real fast because I knew where it was going

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I was just like let just let him cook

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And then after after my daughter was done. I was like, hey, babe

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_00]: The first I was like the first eight out of ten weeks. I spent a base training

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_00]: That's how I got talked to in that tone at that volume by people just like that

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Who were also throwing stuff at me the whole time and she's just looking at me like and I'm like yeah now

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_00]: You understand why I am the way I am

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, like to me if you can avoid a fight avoid the fight you you won because you avoided it because

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Your gun state holstered you didn't waste ammo and you didn't have to go deal with people in not in polyester uniforms

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a whole bunch of lawyer

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_00]: That's a whole bunch of wins all right there because you just you know shelved your ego walked away from the fight

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_00]: But the other thing I tell people all the time is

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_00]: You know like fills this this is not legal advice

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_00]: but fills personal metric for am I prepared to unleash hell on someone is

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Am I prepared to spend the next three to five years in jail and or spend?

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_00]: 25 to a hundred thousand dollars to try to stay out of prison

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, and if the answer is no

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not willing to go through all that then I'm gonna find another way to solve my problem that doesn't evolve a handgun and

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_00]: If my immediate answer talk to that that simple metric is

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_00]: 100% worth it. Let's go to war then we're going to war and the consequence are whatever they are at that point

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_01]: But that's the that's the mental because the the alternative consequences are worse exactly

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's like the mental ledge

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I put in front of people and I tell them are you prepared to deal with the fallout of using your firearm in

[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Defensive or offensive capability and if they say whoa, I'm like you could probably find a way to deal with problem

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't involve shooting it

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know cuz like problems I find can be solved without shooting them. Yeah, cuz I don't know about y'all

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't know about y'all but I've heard that in prison

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_00]: The the physical affection you're getting is not to most people's liking and orange is not my color

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't want to end up in prison

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there's a guy there that would just love to make this beard into a pair of handlebars

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm not trying to go there if I can help it

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean look it it basically comes down to

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Two things one. Can you live with the consequences?

[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I can live with the consequences of some random drunk guy on the street thinking I'm a pussy

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_01]: What do I care? I don't know who he is. I'll never see them again

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_01]: and besides

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_01]: What the hell I mean come on who hasn't been called worse things by a 12 year old on Minecraft or Call of Duty

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Y'all have been through this before I did just deal

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I I was not a gamer at that point in my life. So I never played Minecraft or Call of Duty, but you know

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Xbox live got bad back in the day. I

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Think I scarred raggle-fraggle with turn my beard into a set of handlebars, but

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Kyle some of us do win at prison

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_00]: So

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_00]: cleaning supplies and

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_00]: This is like this this hits close to home for me because here's a question I have for you during COVID

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_00]: What was the number one thing that was starting fistfights and grocery stores?

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Toilet paper and why?

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Well because it is a bulk item that they cannot stock a lot of and you can't go without it unless you have a good day

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And because yeah, well and because toilet paper above and beyond being like, you know the most memeable thing of 2020

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_00]: It's it's a sanitation item. Tiger King. It is. Yeah

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's one of those things which was the same way

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_01]: The Korax wipes were the same way and antibacterial so insanitizer

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'll put material soap same thing matter of fact my wife found my wife found this out

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_00]: She would she actually got some just to support a local company, but it was somebody she knew that their family owned a distillery

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my favorite distillery did that too

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_00]: So they started making alcohol based hand sanitizer during COVID because like you know it keep them up

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it kept them open and it was selling like hotcakes. So

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Really easy to make yeah. Well, I mean if you're already spun up to bring and make whiskey

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Then hard partners distilling. Yeah

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's one of those things where it's like, you know cleaning supplies were in such short order

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_00]: But I didn't find that we were really in bad shape. I mean like yeah

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_00]: We had to restock over time but everybody does but I agree

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that there's probably a whole bunch of people out there that like they've got the the beans the bulls and the band-aids but

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Things like cleaning supplies

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_00]: They might fall a little bit short on me

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_00]: You kind of gave your your example of like having a bunch of plumbing supplies

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's the same philosophy of at four o'clock in the morning at four o'clock in the morning is the wrong time to run out of stuff

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_00]: When you need stuff

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_01]: It is especially nowadays post COVID when the 24-hour Walmart are closed

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's now a 12 hour or a 16 hour store. I mean

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_01]: How many people here knew that bleach had a shelf life before they started prepping? I didn't

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_01]: six months

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Six months to a year so it's non concentrated bleach six months if it's concentrated bleach

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_01]: It's one year. I will also say that I go you're right cleaning supply

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Wholesale clubs are your friend, but yeah again shelf life. Yeah some of these things do have one

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I will also say that go a step beyond like

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Personal cleaning to cleaning items or home cleaning items

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_00]: But also just really basic stuff like you know, do you have extra toothpaste?

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you have extra toothbrushes? Do you have extra deodorant? Do you have extra body powder foot powder?

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you have extra medications which is the very next bullet point? You can get

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Was it two years supply of deodorant on Amazon for about the same cost as a few months supply of Walmart?

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if you're willing to buy by the case laundry case at deodorant does not take up much space laundry detergent and dishwasher detergent

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean it sounds like

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_00]: There are people that they want to put that in a separate box than preparedness, but I always go back to the idea that like

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_00]: You know once I got to a certain point in preparedness

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I felt like okay

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_00]: If we don't mind eating beans and rice for the next six months

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_00]: We're golden and that's when my wife started reading me into this and hey dummy

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_00]: If you don't put together a bucket full of baking supplies so you can make me and my daughter cookies when we're having a bad day

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_00]: You're not gonna make you're not gonna make it through the apocalypse

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_00]: So you know that's when I my my idea starts shifting away from just barely making it

[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_00]: To how do we maintain normalcy for the family for as long as possible like when they're when it's COVID and

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_00]: My wife and I we used to go get tacos like every other week. We have a little couple of place in town

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_00]: We're both Mexican food nights

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Also sushi nuts, but that's a very expensive habit to be involved in yeah

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_00]: That's it's one of these things is more expensive than yeah, but tacos was pretty reasonable at the time

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_00]: But you know for a while there we had stacks and stacks of

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Tortillas and we had tons of ground beef and we made our own seasoning

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean we just we did taco night here at the house because

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't know if you could go out anywhere and get that stuff. So I guess I always go back to the idea that like

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_00]: The whole point of cleaning supplies to me is is to maintain because a clean house is

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Directly adds into your health

[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, if you can't keep your house clean if you can't keep your toilets clean

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_00]: If you can't keep your clothing clean sooner or later that's gonna come back to bite you square in the behind

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's it's preparedness. It's preparedness like everything else is I

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Think my wife I

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Think Gillian I

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't know was that comment you morale boosters. Yeah, that was

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_00]: That's why they put Skittles in the MREs. Yes

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_01]: But that's why they used to put cigarettes in the sea rations

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Not a great long-term

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but short term

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_00]: But I will say that

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_00]: My wife and daughter are very slightly spoiled because I'm a baker. So like yeah

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Literally, I've gotten the requested like eight o'clock and nine be like like my the last time my daughter

[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I think had friends over for a

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah for a sleepover. I got the request eight o'clock at night like we kind of want some cookies or brownies or whatever was and I'm like

[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, come on. You're you're coming to help and I had all I had three teenage girls in the kitchen with me

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_00]: you know throwing a flower around and

[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Making stuff from scratch because that's just how we're gonna do it in this house

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know what that's a memory if nothing else that is a memory

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_01]: They will carry well into adulthood of how much fun that was

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Apparently apparently it got that story has traded around in my daughter's class like everybody's like, you know

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Piper Piper's dad made us cookies from scratch when we were over there

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_00]: So first aid supplies and this is this was specifically to get past

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Turned kids and you know the big stuff. I've said a little stuff is huge when you don't have it dude

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I went to the grocery store recently and because like so I have this weird philosophy when it comes to making medical kits where like I

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Just got through building a little just a little bitty shoulder bag

[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I have an EDC bag specifically for prepper camp because I had an easy EDC bag and then it turned into something else

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_00]: It turned into yeah, yeah that that magazine carrier

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_00]: That's on the shelf bag there and then I had another EDC bag and it turned into that man-packed down there

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_00]: So I have a problem where I have a bag for a reason and then when I start building something

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like I need a bag. Oh this will work. So I had

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Had to buy another bag but in the process of that problem

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_00]: But in the process of doing that, I'm like, I mean, I'm not gonna have an EDC bag and I put something medical in it

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_00]: so I'm putting in cohesive bandage and four by fours and oh

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Where is it a whole bunch of these the little individual use super?

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Those things are fantastic because I'm gonna tell you that as bad as it will suck if you have to pour this into an open wound

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_00]: It will seal the wound up

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a machinist. I do it on the weekly man. Let's say it's not that bad

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_01]: You get used to it

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's say pain tolerance is an individual thing and some people would say that sucks

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I would probably say it stains worse than getting an infected wound on your arm or your hand from stanky cool

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_00]: In the machine bomb true but the point my point is so as I'm putting this kit together

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh, I'm getting a little bit low on four by fours

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_00]: So the next thing you know I go to the store and like reach into the shelf grab all the four by fours on the shelf

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_00]: shove them all into the band

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I mean to me it's it's like, you know if I look underneath my sink

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I've got four by fours and co-bang and I've got a whole box of the little individual wrapped alcohol swabs

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because you can get them on Amazon for like practically nothing

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_01]: But that's my point five or ten bucks for a hundred pack. Why would you not? Yeah? I mean well actually

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Here's the thing too if you have a local farm supply store

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_01]: You can get that same alcohol in a gallon jug for about ten bucks

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_03]: So

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, those individually wrapped prep pads

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Fantastic, but for home first aid use denatured alcohol. Oh, yeah in a gallon jug

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_01]: You'll never go through it all I used to clean my 3d printer beds

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I've had that same gallon for three years see my problem is I wind I wind up using the bulk denatured alcohol for filling like

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Little alcohol burners and stuff and camping kits

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Fantastic parts degreaser sometimes if I want something that's not gonna

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to use break clean or anything really aggressive, you know

[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Isoporob alcohol is usually pretty mild

[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's just gonna take a finish off

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well not to mention if we were talking about putting it into a medical kit the little pre-packaged stuff

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just super convenient to rip with a few more

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_01]: It is convenient and I would never tell somebody not to use it because it's guaranteed to be sterile

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_01]: But so are most things you soak in alcohol true

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_01]: But but see specifically here. Yeah, the thing anti-diarrheals

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Anybody here was a Boy Scout

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_01]: knows how quality Boy Scout cooking is

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_01]: the boys are doing the cooking and

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_01]: 13 year old boys don't pay too terrible much attention to the temperature of that chicken

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Nothing's more miserable than a three-day camp out when you got the wrongs

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I will also say that like bear in mind that what what is when when when the s

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_00]: What if the sh ever really TFs?

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_00]: What's it gonna kill an overwhelming majority of people?

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Once we get past everybody that's on daily medications

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_00]: It can't get a main war and once we get past everybody that's in ICU, you know like once we get past about three days

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_00]: What's gonna kill the majority of people is eating food?

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_00]: That's bad or drinking water that's bad and you're going to

[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_00]: evacuate your soul and

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Then you're lying very so yeah like that and I'm just I'm speaking from what kills people in the third world

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_00]: it's starvation its pestilence and it's

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_00]: You're usually drinking bad water

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Because when you get desperate enough to stick your tongue into a puddle and then bad things happen immediately after that

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Parasites paracet is a huge one that you can't really treat not not effectively

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there are antibiotics and anti-parasitics that you can get if you do find a hospital that does have them in stock

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_01]: but if you look at say I don't know if anybody in our in our chatter for our patreon has been to like

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Africa or the Middle East recently on a civilian trip Tommy's been recommend you bring all that yourself Tommy

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Tommy was down in Central America. I want to say a couple years ago doing a

[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Medical mission work basically yeah mission trip

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_01]: We should actually talked him about that in detail like his his his preps for going to a third world country because I tell you what man

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing better for your like emergency disaster relief preparedness than understanding what you need to be prepped for a third world country

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well either that or like I look at it

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I look at very analogous to like what what the military brought in for us when we went to Iraq

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Like we were fully self-contained. We brought everything in yeah because all had to

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_00]: If your plan is longer than three months you need farming supplies

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I want to hedge this and say six months

[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_00]: But I know why he's saying three months cuz like I've got a six month food supply

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_00]: But by the time you get to get to the end of the six months you better have crops in the ground or you're gonna have a problem

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, here's the problem is that

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You know

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Six months no I gotta disagree with you three months because if you are coming out of winter

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Or you are going into winter it takes three months to grow most crops

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know that's that's a ballpark and it's wrong and there's about 20 other crops

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_01]: You can grow within six weeks whatever don't care a

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Sustainable amount of food to keep your family fed through a year is going to take most of the growing season

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Which for most people is three to five months

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_01]: To harvest mm-hmm, so you will have nothing if if you're saying going into the winter

[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Coming out of it coming coming out in the spring having used up all your supplies

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_01]: You've got nothing to harvest except what you can hunt or gather

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_00]: That's not gonna be much. Yeah, and even like down here on the Gold Coast where I kind of have like

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Somewhat of a cheat code because our growing season is so much longer than the rest of the country

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean we're subtropical here. Yeah, but even here get an extra month. Yeah

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe two months one on the front end one on the back end

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_01]: But it really depends cuz like whether in hurricane season

[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, but then you have to think about like I was grow

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I was trying and I suck at it by the way

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_00]: But I was trying to grow potatoes in my backyard just to see if I could and they died, but that's another story

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I was asking my wife like what do you think I did wrong?

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_00]: She said honestly you planted them too late in the year and it is a hundred and f you outside

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And potatoes like cool dry weather

[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_00]: So like it's one of those things where it's like, okay lesson learned if I planted them earlier in the year

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I could have harvested later in the year I could have harvested but like, you know that that long growing season

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Kind of has this little problem child in the middle called August. Yeah

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_01]: August in the south

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah cruel mistress

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like I said a hundred and f you outside

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_00]: But I will happily agree that like if you're but this is also why like I tell people like preparedness isn't always

[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to outlive the end of the world a lot of no it's not a lot of preparedness is a

[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_00]: hurricane it's gonna happen

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Sooner or later down here and when it does I would like to have food and water to eat and drink because you know reasons

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_00]: So like a lot of preparedness is

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Can I can I stay in my house and feed myself for three weeks?

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_00]: If you can make three weeks, you're probably gonna be okay stuff, huh?

[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I ever tell you what really triggered me getting into preparedness blizzard. I

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_01]: bought a house

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_01]: First time I ever bought a house. All right, I was barely an adult. I was like 23 24

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Went on I signed

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_01]: the mortgage on like a Thursday. It was September 11th

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I remember it very clearly because of the date not the September 11th, but it was a September 11th. I

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Went on vacation a week later. I came back to being unemployed. Oh

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Fun, yeah. Yeah. Yeah 23 24 year old just signed due for a house

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And the mortgage attached to it

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And the bank the bank doesn't allow takes these backsies

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_01]: No, and I had 30 days to figure that that out. Thankfully I had money

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Set in a savings account right which is also preparedness

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_01]: It is the key it is the base and backbone of preparedness

[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Name me a problem in modern society that cannot be solved by throwing money at it. It's probably medical

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_00]: government

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that's not a problem that happens to an individual, you know

[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_01]: No true

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, but if you have enough money the government's irrelevant look at Elon Musk

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_01]: He does whatever the hell he feels like so much money who's gonna stop him. He just walks off somewhere

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you do have a point that the whole

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Like money every problem is solved most of the mobsters in the 1920s just bought free and police and judges and made those

[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_00]: 1920s. No, I was thinking I was thinking like you know

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_01]: bought the Supreme Court of Illinois

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_00]: It must cost pretty penny

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's all fiat currency anyway, so who's what does it matter? But still the point stands?

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Your transmission goes out in your truck stroke a check

[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Fixes on the way and might take a few days to a week

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_01]: rental car stroke a check problem solved

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Roof got tore off your house by a hurricane. You gotta wait for the insurance to pay out fine stroke a check get that get that ball rolling

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Your roofer knows that the insurance company is going to pay

[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So you stroke that deposit check

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_01]: All right

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Fixes on the way

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_00]: No, that is an excellent point

[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Totally off the topic, but you know it's good. It is but but no

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's never off the topic because preparedness at its base in a modern society

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Does largely depend on your finances and if you can get your personal finances in order

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_01]: At least to the point where you're not paycheck to paycheck everything is easier

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna have to bully Andrew and let me get on my personal finance kick

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I restrict myself to one show a year because

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's painful for me to sit there and watch Andrew's eyes slowly cross

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_00]: As I just talk about personal finance and budgeting for 55 minutes straight. Hey man

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_01]: We all hate we all hate and love budgeting at the same time

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna tell you what lets me have my war hammer my war hammer addiction and all of the prepping gear

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I've got downstairs a properly budgeted

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_00]: System I'm gonna say that not having

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Not having personal debt not having credit cards and especially paying off two cars is a friggin sheet code

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_01]: It is I mean my wife's car. We just bought her a new car

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Six six hundred dollars a month if you had two two cars is more than my mortgage

[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I

[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Was watching a YouTube video before we get to this next bullet point where?

[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_00]: It was just one person after another it was a compilation video of people talking about what their car payments were

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_01]: No, Nick Nick

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_00]: The one that made me throw open my mouth was

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_00]: $1435 a month

[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_00]: 14

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_00]: $1435 a month

[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_00]: For what?

[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I want to say it was like I don't know what it was but it was something very expensive

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And of course, but wait it gets it gets better. It was something very expensive at

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I want to say the interest rate was like

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_00]: 1415 percent and they negative equity into it. Oh

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Lord oh, yes like the more of the story I heard the more I thought to myself

[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Jesus we need to earn the car let maltaf the car. This is your only way out

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Not that I'm advocating for insurance fraud but

[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Totally but I'm not doing terms from but dear Lord. Well, but I mean at $1400 a month

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Dude my mortgage and my truck payment when I was still making it

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Were only a little bit more than that

[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like I'm on an acre

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_01]: with a sixteen hundred square foot range

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm on a pretty nice house. I think pretty nice for me anyway and

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not even

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_01]: 1150 I just it is these kinds of terrible decisions that people willfully make knowingly or unknowingly

[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_01]: They did make the decision they signed the paperwork just like student loans

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_01]: But see these kind of decisions that stop people from building any wealth or any

[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Emergency savings for themselves and then they have to have their in case of emergency credit card

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's a 30% interest rate the thing that I can't work out is like see

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe like five six years ago now I could under I could at least rationalize I didn't agree with it

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_00]: But I could rationalize the person that didn't look at the interest rate

[00:49:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Didn't look at the principal didn't look at the purchase price of the vehicle

[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_00]: The only number they were focused on was that monthly payment. Can I make the monthly payment? Does it fit into my monthly budget?

[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 2% sure

[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But see I can rationalize that I can't I don't not say I agree with it

[00:49:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Every dollar you pay an interest is dollar your lighting on fire in your front yard for fun for the bank

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I literally comma however comma I can at least rationalize that

[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_00]: The people I cannot figure out are the ones who got the damn paperwork and it says

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_00]: $1435 a month and

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_00]: They did that there wasn't like a moment

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_00]: There wasn't of the briefest of moments where something in their soul jumped up and said no no no no no no no no no no no

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And they just John Hancock that SOB and rode off into the sunset of poverty. I can't I don't think they're

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Blame I don't think they're entirely to blame

[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_01]: There has been a willful and intentional

[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Not teaching of students and young people either by their parents or by the school system

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_01]: The effect of compound interest and

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_01]: The effect of debt to income ratios

[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Did you take a personal finance class in high school because I did you want to know what they taught us?

[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_01]: How to balance your checkbook for weeks of how to balance a checkbook

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_00]: So weeks I think my only saving grace

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Which right to your point about people's parents not teaching them is my dad did teach me like my dad has

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_00]: My dad has been very open with me about the fact that like and bear in mind. He's 70. He's retired

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_00]: But he's been very open with me about the fact that like if he knew at 40

[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Which I'm 41, but if he knew at 40 what I know about finance and how economics works and all this stuff

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_00]: My dad's already told me said I'd have three times what I do in my for in my IRA

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_00]: If I knew which if I knew what you know now I would be set

[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I would he's already set for life like he would have to win

[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_00]: He would have to do stupid stuff to put himself in a bad position because

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_00]: He's memory diligent about saving and controlling his dad and so on so both

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_00]: He's lived a very financially conservative life and

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Profited from that, but he looks at what I know and he's like if I knew that at your age

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I'd have blown this out of the water. I just stumble. I just you know did the best I could

[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Still no fair to the people that make these decisions a

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_01]: lot of them are entirely uninformed and

[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_01]: To not to plug another channel, but Caleb Hammer

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Go watch some of his videos

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I have the effect not just you the audience see the effect of these decisions on a day to day basis

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Even if it's $15 Starbucks, I am just gonna tell you one thing though. I was subscribed to Caleb's channel

[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I had to unsubscribe to it after a while make not because his content is not amazing

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it is not because the lessons that are illustrated don't need to be learned

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_00]: But I have a personality where when I swim and somebody else's grief for too long

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_00]: It starts to eat at me for sure and after watching day after day after day after day people who are have screwed their lives up

[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_00]: With bad financial decisions. It just got it

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_00]: It got to the point where I was like I it's like watching the news every day

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's always bad news

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I got the point where I had to turn it off because it was just you know, it was dragging me down your own mental health

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_00]: but I will also say that if

[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_00]: If you think that you have lessons to be learned from personal finance, that's a good place to go and

[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_00]: If you think you're in really bad shape watch a couple of those episodes and you'll learn what a really bad shape

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_01]: River looks like shape even if you think you're in good shape

[00:53:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Watch a few you might pick up some tips

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the thing that I think wrong with educate yourself the thing that I picked up from watching that show was damn

[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_00]: We're doing pretty good

[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, better than you think yeah, right better than you think well cuz you only see what you and yours are doing

[00:53:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You only see what you and yours are doing you don't see everybody else

[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Comparison is the joy of the is the thief of joy thief of joy. Yeah, it can be but it could also make you feel a little bit better

[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_01]: If you see somebody that's twice your age that's staring down the barrel of retirement in three years and they're you know

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Half a million or more dead. Oh no assets

[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Knowing when to wear body armor is as important as having it and oh my dear God in heaven

[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Can I just tell everybody can I just tell everybody?

[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Even though I did just tell my wife the other day that like this is on my this is on my list before the end of the year

[00:54:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, no, I've got a body armor set and I only have one

[00:54:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not gonna buy enough to outfit the whole family because I think I look at body armor as tool in the toolbox

[00:54:11] [SPEAKER_00]: If you need it, you need it if you don't you don't and most of the time you don't

[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so

[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But the set I have is very old and it was very cheap and it's steel which

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_00]: See here's the thing I

[00:54:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Told you it's very old at the time. I bought this body armor set

[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Composite body armor was comparatively very expensive

[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Very fragile at the time

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't know if you can call it like generations, but like you and I both know that like modern ceramic body armor

[00:54:49] [SPEAKER_01]: It's freaking amazing multi hit is night and day difference from what it was 10 years ago

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_00]: But what it was 10 years ago was if you drop it on the floor

[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_00]: You got it

[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_00]: You gotta throw the plates in the trash by new ones

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And I was not I was not prepared to go through that much aggravation because again my experience from body armor was when

[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I was in the military in

[00:55:08] [SPEAKER_00]: 2003 when we first moved in Iraq for the X-rays

[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and those those plates like they literally told us if you drop your play carrier on the floor

[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You have to replace your plates because that's how fragile they were

[00:55:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure, so you know what?

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Better than carrying steel in the desert. Yes, but now that body

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You know that's now that ceramic plates have gotten to a point where I'm comfortable buying into them

[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I really want to get rid of those old steel plates turn that entire vest into like a workout

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll just a weight vest because that's about what it's good for

[00:55:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe if I go run a class and I need it

[00:55:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll swap out the ceramic for steel just cuz if I bang them around who gives a damn that's you know

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_01]: It's training. Yeah, even then I've beaten on my ceramic plates

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And I sent him out for X-rays a little while ago and they're just fine

[00:55:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I bought in fact. I kind of cheap down on mine. I bought the RMA ones

[00:55:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even buy the those are bad fancy Hescoes

[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but there's like there's like

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Hascoes in the upper tier and there's like RMA which is very good quality. Do not get me wrong

[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Love their product line and then there's Chinese Ali Ali Express plates

[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_01]: You know

[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_00]: There's different grades to answer raggle fraggles question. Yes, they are coated, but I don't care. They're still

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Steel plates. Yeah, but I need to go. I've shot at coated plates because I had a spare

[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I had a 500 plates too and

[00:56:33] [SPEAKER_01]: That coating comes off really fast

[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it's actually not that easy

[00:56:38] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not that hard to punch through them like my 20 inch AR shooting green tips will punch through a level 3

[00:56:44] [SPEAKER_00]: 500 plate but to my point was as I'm about to say how unum how

[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_00]: How little you're gonna use body armor that is on my list of stuff to upgrade this year is body armor and

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And you know war belt because I'm using an old USGI pistol belt from the mid 90s because it works

[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_00]: But they were again trying to update towards more modern stuff more comfortable. Yeah, but I won't again

[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_01]: You have a funded emergency fund you have a funded 401k or other retirement plan

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_01]: You have your food lined up. You have your medical care lined up

[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Body armor some bottom tier prior. Yeah, which you're there

[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, I mean, I don't know most people would argue that night vision is bottom tier priority

[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, but you know what a lot of fun. That's that's the two is but you've you've got your baseline

[00:57:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Established for the most common threat in your area hurricanes

[00:57:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Hurricanes it is in my area. It's tornadoes and ice storms on occasion. Maybe a blizzard once you're in a heatwave

[00:57:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm. You've got your bottom line handled now you can handle the exotic cases

[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but to this bullet point about knowing when to wear your body armor

[00:57:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna tell you that during so here's the thing

[00:58:02] [SPEAKER_00]: During Hurricane Katrina. I was still in uniform. I was in the New Orleans metro area

[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_00]: We actually didn't have our body armor because it was at the facility in the vault underwater, but that's a different

[00:58:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, fantastic thing we're evacuating that in the basement we're evacuating a facility that is literally

[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Literally a runway away from Lake punch train. There's a cap or hurricane cruising through that's gonna make a bunch storm surge

[00:58:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's make sure we get the toolboxes for the helicopters so we can work on them

[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_00]: But let's leave all the son of a bitch in m16s and body armor and nods and all that stuff locked up in the vault to get flooded

[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Good job supply guys

[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't I can't even be mad at the I can't even add the supply guys because I guarantee you it was some idiot officer

[00:58:49] [SPEAKER_00]: That made that friggin decision, but whoever you are out there

[00:58:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I would love to have a beer with you and tell you about yourself because that was

[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Let me tell you about the random guns that were going off in Katrina

[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I can just tell you that when they sent us down in the New Orleans metro area

[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_00]: We were literally bringing like personal personally owned weapons in uniform

[00:59:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Driving personal vehicles because our our motor pool our motor poles also underwater

[00:59:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Different aggregating story turns out humvees don't run well in six feet of water

[00:59:19] [SPEAKER_00]: No, not unless you put the snorkels on but even then they're not happy

[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_01]: But I digress no truck is truly happy with a snorkel

[00:59:27] [SPEAKER_00]: No, but what it boils down to is that like in that situation

[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I would have kind of liked to have body armor because they were taking shots of people

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_00]: But during hurricane Ida when I'm just Phil homeowner

[00:59:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't standing in the front yard with a play carrier on first of all

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to scare the hell out of my neighbors

[00:59:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Second of all that shit is uncomfortable. Yeah

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_00]: now what I did do

[00:59:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Was I had my body armor and arrive and a rifle by the front door of this house

[00:59:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Like literally reach in through the front door and grab it and I was carrying a handgun underneath my shirt the whole time

[01:00:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely if there had been a serious situation the gun

[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_00]: You know the rifle and the play carrier being by the front door was to run in the house slam

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_00]: The front door shut grab the stuff and be able to defend the home because in the situation

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_00]: We were in you didn't know what police response time was gonna be you had to be prepared to fight your way out of trouble

[01:00:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But what I'm not trying to do is scare the hell out of my neighbors by marching up and down the street in body armor

[01:00:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Looking like a moron and not to mention the fact that you probably wouldn't have been able to evac

[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Even if you wanted to at that point

[01:00:34] [SPEAKER_03]: mmm

[01:00:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know just from trees down power lines down debris in the road whatever

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_01]: You are kind of in in the case of a hurricane correct me if I'm wrong

[01:00:45] [SPEAKER_00]: You're locked in to where you are for the most part for a period of time yet depending on how bad how bad it was and

[01:00:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Really how close it hit to you because like where the storm people were in their houses or on the roofs for a week

[01:00:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and Katrina is kind of an outlier just because when the

[01:01:03] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a perfect example. Yeah, it could New York down that long ago

[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you just have to remember that like the majority of the street flooding we saw during Katrina was the levees breaking

[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Right wasn't it wasn't the storm surge and it wasn't rainfall

[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_00]: It was the levees breaking which let the river go where it wasn't supposed to go

[01:01:21] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what caused the problems fine, but that was due to

[01:01:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Nepotism government and competence and corruption. So what screws that gone down or up?

[01:01:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, pretty pretty steady I'd say yeah, so it's not gotten better

[01:01:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Pretty good odds it'll happen again. Yeah

[01:01:41] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I would agree with this knowing when to wear body armors is as important as having it because like

[01:01:46] [SPEAKER_00]: You know body armor isn't just protecting your vital organs body armor is also a show

[01:01:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's like that I am going to be here to fight you if you come for me

[01:02:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[01:02:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Now I will happily say there was a point several days after the hurricane that we had to go

[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_00]: To the next town over to check on my in-laws and make sure that they were okay and do a little bit of quick home repairs

[01:02:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And when we were loading up the truck. Yeah, I loaded MREs. I loaded water

[01:02:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I look I literally I loaded up like we were gonna live out of the truck for three or four days just you just in case

[01:02:25] [SPEAKER_00]: and I also had

[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_00]: That plate carrier and that rifle in the pasture floorboards of the truck at my wife's feet because I told her I'm like

[01:02:33] [SPEAKER_00]: If something pops off

[01:02:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I need you to dive over the backseat

[01:02:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And I need you to dive into the back of the truck and I'm gonna grab this

[01:02:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna do what I have to do

[01:02:43] [SPEAKER_00]: But like right it's just one of the situations where it's like, you know

[01:02:45] [SPEAKER_00]: We had the mentality of if we get into trouble we have to fight our way out of trouble

[01:02:49] [SPEAKER_00]: We can't we can't take we don't know we're gonna have cell signal be able to get ahold of anybody

[01:02:54] [SPEAKER_01]: But even then you can could they come yeah, but even then it was

[01:02:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Plate carrier and rifle down the floorboards of the truck where if you're just standing on the side of the road

[01:03:04] [SPEAKER_00]: We drive by there's no outward signs that we're looking for a fight. So it's just like

[01:03:08] [SPEAKER_00]: To me it really is just kind of an idea of like, you know has some freaking common sense

[01:03:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't don't look like you're looking for a fight

[01:03:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because well the part of the reason why

[01:03:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Uniform troops are always in body armor is because their job is to look for the fight and be the target

[01:03:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you will you will be a target if you're wearing body

[01:03:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone doesn't matter if you're wearing body armor

[01:03:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You're not it's not first off is not covering your pelvis second off

[01:03:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Covering your head or your arms or legs

[01:03:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Heads are kind of important heads are extremely important

[01:03:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is a problem. I need to address your family doesn't know how to use two-thirds of your preps now

[01:03:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna happily say what I struggle with sometimes is

[01:03:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I love my family dearly but

[01:03:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Frankly they could give a damn about some sure I would like your teenage daughter

[01:04:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes now the the really important stuff like hey if you need to cook

[01:04:08] [SPEAKER_00]: This is where the propane is this is where the camp stove is you know where all the buckets of food are

[01:04:13] [SPEAKER_00]: You know where the things are

[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_00]: But once you get much beyond the basics of this is the stuff y'all normally interface with you get into here

[01:04:23] [SPEAKER_00]: How does a radio work? They don't freaking know

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna have to set it up and set them up and hand it to them and say push the button to talk to me

[01:04:30] [SPEAKER_00]: or we start talking about things like

[01:04:32] [SPEAKER_00]: More advanced medical care my wife and daughter are brilliant young ladies

[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_00]: They understand how to use band-aids and you know alcohol and hydrogen peroxide and all that stuff

[01:04:42] [SPEAKER_00]: They can bandage stuff up. They do it all the time

[01:04:45] [SPEAKER_00]: But if I hand them a tourniquet, I don't know if they're gonna in if they're going to

[01:04:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Instinctively understand how to apply that thing if I hand them a chest seal or if I hand them quick clock quick

[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Cloth they probably figure out just shove it in the wound no matter how bad

[01:04:58] [SPEAKER_01]: That's especially the new cause versions of it. They're very they're very user-friendly

[01:05:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but no

[01:05:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean this is a really good point is that your family doesn't know how to use two-thirds of your preps

[01:05:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm gonna go one step further than this

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_00]: There are a bunch of you preppers out there that have stuff put away and your family probably doesn't know where two-thirds of it is

[01:05:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Like my wife and daughter know where the stuff is they may not know exactly how to use all of it

[01:05:23] [SPEAKER_00]: They might have to follow around a little bit, but they at least know where it is

[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_00]: but I

[01:05:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Mean if you've got stuff squirreled way in your house and nobody knows it's there like I talked to a friend of mine who

[01:05:36] [SPEAKER_00]: He's been involved in like going into houses like to help clear him out for estate sales and everything and the number the number of

[01:05:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Like boxes stuff with like shoeboxes full of cash or the number of just like

[01:05:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Guns ever hidden away in different places that they find after someone passes away that nobody knew was even people that live in the house

[01:05:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Didn't know it was there. I helped uh, I helped a widow

[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_01]: That I was I was friends with her husband

[01:06:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I helped a widow find a lot of his guns that he had hidden around places and the reason why I knew they were there is because

[01:06:07] [SPEAKER_01]: He wanted to show them off and I can tell you this much

[01:06:11] [SPEAKER_01]: There are a lot of elderly individuals out there that have a number

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Not just one not just a couple a large number of loaded firearms

[01:06:23] [SPEAKER_01]: in their homes or their businesses or their cars and

[01:06:30] [SPEAKER_01]: That can be fairly hazardous because some of these older guns number one or not drop safe

[01:06:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Some of them don't have safeties number two and if number three nobody else in the family knows they're there

[01:06:41] [SPEAKER_01]: What are the odds they know how to safely unload that obscure firearm from the 1930s?

[01:06:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Now the ones I was helping find were

[01:06:53] [SPEAKER_01]: largely small

[01:06:55] [SPEAKER_01]: concealable pistols

[01:06:57] [SPEAKER_01]: 22 is 25 autos 32 autos stuff like that

[01:07:02] [SPEAKER_01]: but you know

[01:07:05] [SPEAKER_01]: One of them was an M1 grand

[01:07:08] [SPEAKER_01]: That was in a closet

[01:07:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Behind the thing so what you know grandkids helping you clean out the house picks it up points it something pulls a trigger

[01:07:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay

[01:07:20] [SPEAKER_01]: There's no wall in that house. It's gonna stop an on sex. No before it hits a family member cleaning the other room or

[01:07:28] [SPEAKER_01]: no, it's

[01:07:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Or a neighbor or who knows what else?

[01:07:32] [SPEAKER_01]: but like I

[01:07:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Need to give my wife a how-to on generators

[01:07:37] [SPEAKER_01]: She knows we have a generator

[01:07:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I've talked her through the basics of how to use it, but she has never personally hooked up and started the generator

[01:07:46] [SPEAKER_01]: It's heavy. It's a 10,000

[01:07:49] [SPEAKER_01]: 10,000 watt. I don't remember how they're actually rated. It's probably a 10 surge generator 10k. That's a 10k generator. Thank you

[01:07:58] [SPEAKER_01]: She knows how to hook up a propane grill. She's very smart lady

[01:08:01] [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm not sure she knows how to hook up the tractor to the trailer to get the generator

[01:08:07] [SPEAKER_01]: All the way across the properties where our hookup is because it's a portable generator

[01:08:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't I didn't don't have the funds for permanently in place one would love to

[01:08:17] [SPEAKER_01]: We're budgeting for that. It'll get there eventually

[01:08:20] [SPEAKER_01]: But for now, I need to have her a couple of times try hooking them over up to the trailer and dragging it around the house

[01:08:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Backing it into place and then plugging it in because it's not the simplest procedure

[01:08:34] [SPEAKER_01]: There's stuff in the garage that has to be moved out of the way

[01:08:36] [SPEAKER_01]: there's a certain way you're gonna have to drive it because there's only one path that will get to that point and

[01:08:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Backing up a short axle trailer like a little lawnmower trailer is not a walk in the park for somebody that's never done it

[01:08:47] [SPEAKER_00]: It's tricky

[01:08:48] [SPEAKER_01]: It can be

[01:08:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Especially for somebody that doesn't use those short axle trailers all the time, you know, and that's and yeah

[01:08:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Could she figure it out? I'm sure she could given enough time

[01:08:58] [SPEAKER_01]: But do I want her to have to spend the hours or just any extra amount of time dicking around outside and after an ice storm?

[01:09:08] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I

[01:09:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Will say the persuasion to this one thing that's been

[01:09:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Mentioned before and recommend to me and I really need to get off my butt. I did it years ago

[01:09:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I need to do it again because there's been a little yes

[01:09:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Literally literally to write up a manual for this is where this is this is how you do stuff

[01:09:25] [SPEAKER_00]: This is the order you hook up the generator and flip all the switches in like

[01:09:29] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like that's been recommended and I can remember

[01:09:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Years ago. I was getting deployed to Shreveport

[01:09:38] [SPEAKER_00]: for work for my current job and

[01:09:41] [SPEAKER_00]: it was because there was a

[01:09:44] [SPEAKER_00]: There was a tropical storm that was hitting the New Orleans area

[01:09:46] [SPEAKER_01]: It was gonna be a near strike wasn't it? Well, no

[01:09:49] [SPEAKER_00]: It was it was supposed to be a direct strike, but it was only supposed to be a tropical storm

[01:09:52] [SPEAKER_00]: So it wasn't gonna be a bad hurt. It wasn't gonna be like a big old hurricane or anything, but the worry was it was supposed to make landfall

[01:09:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Wednesday night going into Thursday morning. Well, that is like

[01:10:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Critical time for us executing our week our bi-weekly payroll operation

[01:10:08] [SPEAKER_00]: so the worry was if this thing shuts down the New Orleans area which was a

[01:10:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Likelihood or if there's street flooding and people can't get into work

[01:10:18] [SPEAKER_00]: We have problems to deal with because we literally can't get the staff to the offices to do the thing

[01:10:22] [SPEAKER_00]: They have to do that particular day

[01:10:24] [SPEAKER_00]: So they made the decision to go ahead and deploy

[01:10:28] [SPEAKER_00]: About half of us or not have maybe a third of us up to Shreveport to the alternate work site

[01:10:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And I was I drew I drew the number. I had to go

[01:10:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I was leaving behind my wife and daughter with a tropical storm coming in and

[01:10:42] [SPEAKER_00]: We had that discussion about you know, Piper still in school. I still have work

[01:10:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Do we do I just tell my boss buzz off and we come with y'all or not?

[01:10:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like here's the thing

[01:10:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Given what this looks like. It's gonna be a tropical storm. I don't even think it's gonna put us out

[01:10:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't even think it's gonna put the New Orleans office out of work and it didn't bother me

[01:11:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Turn out to be about what I expected which was out of a bunch of caution. We're deploying y'all

[01:11:09] [SPEAKER_00]: So I told my wife I'm like I think you're okay to stay here not disrupt yourself

[01:11:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Not just rep hyper not have to lose you know a couple of days at work

[01:11:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I think you're fine if I did not believe that all the way in one side and out the other

[01:11:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I would tell you pack up and let's go and we'd be packing the pack in the cats and everything else

[01:11:26] [SPEAKER_00]: But I really think you're okay that being said I left behind a stack of cash

[01:11:34] [SPEAKER_00]: and like two sheets printed of

[01:11:37] [SPEAKER_00]: This is where everything you might need is this is where all the food is this is where all the water is

[01:11:44] [SPEAKER_00]: This is where this is where all the stuff is that if you need to be self-sufficient for three days

[01:11:50] [SPEAKER_00]: This is where it all is. This is what everything's laid out ready to go

[01:11:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I had and I had I had kind of left behind the house in the condition

[01:11:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it needed to be and if she had a power added for a day or two

[01:12:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't recall that we even lost power for that. So it was a good

[01:12:06] [SPEAKER_00]: It was a little exercise

[01:12:10] [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't remember how many years ago. This was my my daughter was a little little bitty

[01:12:14] [SPEAKER_00]: But at I mean like our prep our preps have grown so much since then that that list means nothing

[01:12:20] [SPEAKER_00]: It I had I would have to completely update it just to include all the stuff we've added

[01:12:27] [SPEAKER_00]: So I wholeheartedly agree about like your family doesn't know how to use two-thirds of your preps

[01:12:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Man, I even know where all this and I think I think honestly. I probably don't know all my stuff is

[01:12:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but that's a different problem

[01:12:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well look we all have that problem. We all have the I know I have this

[01:12:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I know it is in the house, but can you find it? I mean organization is difficult

[01:12:56] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a reason why there are people whose entire jobs are organizing facilities

[01:13:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Hence your subtitle I forgot where I left everything absolutely

[01:13:06] [SPEAKER_01]: But I didn't have my wife. I wouldn't know where anything is

[01:13:10] [SPEAKER_00]: This last one really hits close to home

[01:13:12] [SPEAKER_00]: It's going close on if you don't have it before your emergency you won't buy it during the emergency and

[01:13:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I will I will say that like, you know, this reminds me very much of like an old saying from the military which was

[01:13:26] [SPEAKER_00]: When you're short of everything but problems you're in a combat zone

[01:13:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Correct. So like when you're when you're running out of ammo running out of food running out of water

[01:13:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Running out of everything, but you got plenty of problems aka people trying to murder you

[01:13:41] [SPEAKER_00]: You're in a combat zone and that's kind of what this reminds me of because it's like it's the idea that like

[01:13:47] [SPEAKER_00]: The whole point of preparedness for those of you who didn't get the memo out in the audience

[01:13:52] [SPEAKER_00]: The whole point of preparedness is to do things before the emergency

[01:13:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Starts if you are doing things after the emergency starts. We don't call that preparedness

[01:14:02] [SPEAKER_00]: We call that panicking because you should have done all these things before the emergency started

[01:14:07] [SPEAKER_00]: It's fine to do things after the emergency starts

[01:14:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Because you're trying to like, you know, stretch your prep preps out longer or as long as you can get stuff

[01:14:15] [SPEAKER_00]: You want to keep getting stuff like, you know, that all makes sense

[01:14:19] [SPEAKER_00]: It's last minute grocery run. Yeah. Well, I'm gonna tell you honestly

[01:14:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Every like me and my wife go through this every year. We have a hurricane as soon as a hurricane enters the Gulf of Mexico

[01:14:30] [SPEAKER_00]: We immediately

[01:14:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, no, no usually around here that starts about two days for landfall

[01:14:36] [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm talking about as soon as as soon as the spaghetti models all coalesce on the Louisiana Gulf Coast

[01:14:42] [SPEAKER_00]: We go straight to the gas stations and top off. We go straight to the gas stations and top off all the gas cans

[01:14:48] [SPEAKER_00]: We make a grocery run like we go through the house top to bottom and say is there anything we need before we this starts

[01:14:54] [SPEAKER_00]: because for two weeks, we're gonna live out of what we have

[01:14:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Yep, and then then the next thing that happens is every day on the way home from work

[01:15:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Go hit the gas station again

[01:15:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't care if you need a gallon and a half of gas keep the gas take the gas tank filled to the brim and

[01:15:11] [SPEAKER_00]: then the first

[01:15:11] [SPEAKER_01]: and then

[01:15:14] [SPEAKER_00]: The first time you pass that gas station

[01:15:16] [SPEAKER_00]: You see one person at the pump and one person waiting in line behind them stop, you're not getting more fuel

[01:15:21] [SPEAKER_00]: whatever whatever we have is what we're gonna have because

[01:15:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Now we're getting in the situation where the lines are starting to add up the crowds are starting to build up

[01:15:29] [SPEAKER_00]: We don't want to be around all that so

[01:15:31] [SPEAKER_00]: But the point is that we all have to develop this mentality that like if we don't have it before the emergency starts

[01:15:38] [SPEAKER_00]: You ain't gonna find it during the emergency because it's you and everybody else on this anthill

[01:15:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Scrabble and around looking for stuff

[01:15:45] [SPEAKER_00]: So take that as your opportunity to think ahead of time about

[01:15:50] [SPEAKER_00]: What would I like to have when all hell breaks loose?

[01:15:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And by the way that answer should also include like I know Joe earlier mentioned

[01:15:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Entertainment it should include entertaining items. It should include comfort items like you know

[01:16:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to I don't want to tell anybody to make movies

[01:16:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm not advocating anybody go out and make like crazy financial decisions to impoverish yourself

[01:16:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying please don't yeah, I'm just saying

[01:16:18] [SPEAKER_00]: do not think oh I can put that off till later because

[01:16:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Later it's gonna be you and everybody else looking for the same stuff and you probably don't want to be around a whole

[01:16:29] [SPEAKER_00]: But you'd probably you probably don't want to be number five in line at the gas pump

[01:16:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Because people start throwing punches at a certain point

[01:16:35] [SPEAKER_01]: They can you know, I I've never been one personally to

[01:16:41] [SPEAKER_01]: to

[01:16:43] [SPEAKER_01]: To dive into the end of the world

[01:16:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Type of preparedness. I'm not that's not me. I

[01:16:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Don't know that it would be possible for me to get to that point

[01:16:56] [SPEAKER_01]: But what I can do is make every little emergency from here to there a little more bearable

[01:17:03] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean like

[01:17:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Covid was a perfect exemplar of this and some of my friends have come around

[01:17:12] [SPEAKER_01]: To having a little bit of extra things laid up

[01:17:15] [SPEAKER_01]: My wife didn't have to stop baking

[01:17:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Because she likes to bake sometimes she makes pies she makes brownies she makes cakes stuff like that

[01:17:23] [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't have to limit most of our favorite foods granted a lot of that was because we cook at home

[01:17:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And we eat at home most of the time

[01:17:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So we had a lot of that stuff already to go

[01:17:34] [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't have to cut down on how much beef we were eating because of how expensive beef got

[01:17:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Because we buy a quarter of beef at a time and that's enough for the two of us for a year

[01:17:45] [SPEAKER_01]: so I

[01:17:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Making some kind of jokie Facebook posts if you guys are Facebook friends, that's the only social media. I really do

[01:17:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Does have an older and millennial Facebook great. I'm on there sometimes when I'm not banned for sassing the president

[01:18:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I

[01:18:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Was making joking Facebook posts that we had to resort to an improper wine pairing

[01:18:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Which we did because we were a little low on you know certain kinds of wine

[01:18:12] [SPEAKER_01]: But we had to make an improper wine pairing with the steak

[01:18:15] [SPEAKER_01]: We were making for dinner that night and the third week of COVID when people were bitching about the grocery stores not having things they needed

[01:18:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I had taken the time to make sure we had a few weeks to a couple months worth of stuff laying around

[01:18:30] [SPEAKER_01]: This is be honest here deep freeze in a quarter of beef

[01:18:35] [SPEAKER_01]: You know you're looking at I think it's 500 bucks for my big freezer because I bought a very large freezer

[01:18:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Quarter of beef remember what it cost at the time, but I think it was like 350 or $400 I

[01:18:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Had the money in my in my savings to lay out for that quarter of beef

[01:18:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So I didn't have to go and buy meat at the grocery store every other week

[01:18:56] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I realize that's not possible for everyone

[01:19:01] [SPEAKER_01]: But if you take the time and take the budgeting seriously and set yourself up for success

[01:19:08] [SPEAKER_01]: By sacrificing a little bit ahead of time which we do me and my wife really don't need out weed out

[01:19:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe twice three times a month

[01:19:17] [SPEAKER_01]: But that right there

[01:19:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so you know I think forget what what I saw the other day

[01:19:23] [SPEAKER_01]: But it was the average person eats out four days a week or four meals a week

[01:19:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay for me and my wife. That's about 30 or 40 dollars if we go out to eat

[01:19:32] [SPEAKER_01]: 30 or $40 times let's call it conservatively three times a week

[01:19:37] [SPEAKER_01]: You know it's five hours a month

[01:19:41] [SPEAKER_01]: yep

[01:19:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Very easily could get to 500 bucks, especially if you got say a couple of kids

[01:19:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Could add up even faster than that 500 500 a week times 52 weeks a year

[01:19:55] [SPEAKER_00]: But but give me some leeway here because for the person that says oh, it's only $500 a month. That's

[01:20:00] [SPEAKER_00]: $6,000 a year. Yep, so

[01:20:06] [SPEAKER_01]: $6,000 a year is more than my prepping budget

[01:20:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, but I guess my point is is like imagine being able to give yourself a $6,000 a year raise

[01:20:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yep, and all you and I'm not saying don't eat out ever we all do it like

[01:20:22] [SPEAKER_01]: We forgot to take the chicken out early enough yesterday to make chicken nuggets at home

[01:20:26] [SPEAKER_01]: So my wife went and picked up culverts

[01:20:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Fantastic fine, whatever

[01:20:31] [SPEAKER_01]: That's probably our one time of eating out this week

[01:20:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So 25 bucks

[01:20:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's better than 100

[01:20:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody has days like that where you just you do not have the time

[01:20:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Fair enough try to keep it to a meal prep eat leftovers. Whatever you got to do set yourself up for success

[01:20:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[01:20:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I have to admit usually when I see an article especially when it's on core of all places

[01:21:01] [SPEAKER_00]: This was a good one. This was a this one definitely punch above

[01:21:05] [SPEAKER_00]: What's your dog's name?

[01:21:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Stella Stella freaking out cuz my wife's getting home. Ah

[01:21:12] [SPEAKER_00]: But um

[01:21:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean this article definitely kind of like it called the mind a lot of things

[01:21:17] [SPEAKER_00]: We've talked about over the years and a lot of things one or two things that I kind of think I need to go back and address

[01:21:22] [SPEAKER_00]: But I think what's an important. I think what's important to remember here is that like

[01:21:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You know on this preparedness journey when you first get into it

[01:21:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, you don't know what you don't know and be you're gonna be you're gonna be way behind the power curve on everything because you just started

[01:21:38] [SPEAKER_00]: So what I think's important on this hour curve

[01:21:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but what I think is important is to remember for people to remember that like you started ground zero

[01:21:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Prep for three days. What a what a what a what am I gonna need for three days?

[01:21:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And then what do I need for a week?

[01:21:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And then what do I need for two weeks and then a month and a couple of months and so on so forth

[01:21:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And you keep on expanding out but at some point in here

[01:22:01] [SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna have to engage a little bit of a preparedness oodaloop and think about what did I forget?

[01:22:08] [SPEAKER_00]: What did I what is this? Yeah, and I will say I will say wholeheartedly that like what I find. Hi Stella

[01:22:15] [SPEAKER_00]: What I find very helpful to bear in mind for for like thinking about what you missed in your preparedness journey is

[01:22:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Most people for think about the stuff that they don't think of as preparedness like they don't think about

[01:22:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I need extra anti-diarrhea medicine or I need extra toilet paper because that's not quote-unquote prepping stuff

[01:22:33] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not fun either. Yeah, but I'm gonna tell you

[01:22:37] [SPEAKER_00]: 90% of my preps come from grocery stores or

[01:22:40] [SPEAKER_00]: hardware stores or you know the CVS the local pharmacy

[01:22:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Because if if I'm gonna get a tourniquet

[01:22:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I better have a couple boxes of band-aids and a bunch of four by fours and so on so forth if I'm gonna buy a case of MREs

[01:22:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I wouldn't I go and spend like an extra 30 bucks get an extra big bulk pack of ground beef

[01:23:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Because even if I don't read it, I'll bag it up a pound at a time stuff the chest freezer with five more pounds of beef

[01:23:07] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just the I tomorrow. Yeah. I mean, it's just the idea that like, you know, we have to stop thinking of

[01:23:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Preparedness is this weird thing you do

[01:23:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Next to were ancillary to your day-to-day life and just realize that all preparedness is has taken all the everyday stuff

[01:23:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe pile up a little bit extra

[01:23:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Over time, you know, and it doesn't have you don't have to aim for a year supply or a three month supply or even a week supply at first

[01:23:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Do what you can with what you have

[01:23:37] [SPEAKER_01]: While maintaining reasonable fiscal responsibility so that you don't screw your future self

[01:23:45] [SPEAKER_00]: So I know what I'm hearing is that sooner or later. I'm gonna have to uncork the financial episode

[01:23:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, absolutely. You know, it needs to be discussed. It does I think

[01:23:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Americans in general if there's one thing we all have in common is

[01:23:59] [SPEAKER_01]: At least most of us have in common is that we are terrible at fiscal responsibility

[01:24:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Inundated with overconsumption. Yeah

[01:24:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, maybe we'll put that on the docket for next week, but we'll go ahead punt this one out the door

[01:24:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I know you need to go kiss your wife. I need to go kiss mine and eat dinner

[01:24:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Definitely dinner getting hungry. We'll talk to everybody another week. Bye everybody boys