MEDICAL MONDAY: Prepping with the Old & Injured on The Next Generation

We have to hit the reset button and create a true culture of preparedness starting at a very young age and filtering all the way. Up Hello, everyone, and welcome to The Next Generation Show, where we delve deeper into the little things in life. Here we explore the lost art of fatherhood, parenthood, and fundamental preparedness for the world today. I'm your host, Ryan Buford, along with my co-host, Young Master Colin, and today we're broadcasting from the heart of the Pacific Northwest. We thank you for joining us, and there's not a moment to lose, so let's dig right in. We have special guests tonight, so we're going to bring them on here in just a minute. I might have to figure out how to mute them real quick. I think I might have muted them. There we go. At least that way I can make sure we don't have too much background noise happening. But I just want to make a couple of quick announcements. For those of you who are out listening to the podcast, we do appreciate that support. 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So it's awesome to, to really be able to keep the website going, keep the bandwidth, keep the extra, um, background content coming. So it's, it's, and we do that with your help. So, Again, if you're interested in doing that, check it out. While you're over at Prepper Broadcasting, go on over to the Next Generation show page. Over there, you're going to find our social media contact information, and you can always reach out to me directly if you're interested in saying hi, getting show notes, any other stuff like that. Just shoot me an email, prepperdad at mail.com. So, today we're talking about the old farts and the injured, so to speak, and to kind of, to open up the show tonight, I wanted to share a story of something that has been a recent issue, um, right in our own backyard. So we've, we've been raising these chickens for a couple of years now, and we've had ups and downs. We've had some got eaten by hawks. We've had some got eaten, you know, basically gobbled up by dogs on accident, thinking they were toys. Uh, we've had Merrick's disease blow through, um, you know, it's, there, there is no, there, there is no lack of predation by any means. And whether it's, uh, natural or otherwise, and, and, you know, we do what we can to keep these chickens alive and they produce eggs. They produce, you know, three eggs a day, which is enough for me to consume and, and keep a couple extra on hand, which is perfect, you know, and they're pretty low maintenance for the most part. And it's, it's kind of nice. I mean, we don't have 50 or 60, we got, we're, we're up to six, down to six hens and one rooster. So a couple of weeks ago, we noticed that one of the hens was starting to show signs of being egg bound. And usually you can tell, uh, because of the way they carry themselves, they tend to lower their tail. Uh, they, they're just, they don't eat as much. They're not drinking. Um, and this really sucked because this happened to be one of my best laying hens. I mean, she laid every day consistently since the day I got her. And I got her as a grown hen, so I knew that there wasn't that much more time that I had with her as far as, you know, if I got one or two years out of her worth of egg production, I was money ahead. I think I paid like five bucks for her or something like that. So I was, you know, I'm not out anything by losing this hen. But on the other side of it, I kind of am because she was kind of the, the crazy redhead of the. Bunch, right? She, her name is crazy red. I mean, that's, that's just what we call her. And because she's just ballsy, you know, she'll come right up to you. She'll, she'll try and check out what you're, what you got going on. She has no fear. She's not afraid of the dogs, not afraid of people, not afraid when the rooster goes off. She just fearless. And that, That dynamic within the rest of the brood, the rest of the flock, I guess, so to speak, was something that was hard to come to grips with. So when I see her up against a tree or up against a wall or something with her tail down, I was like, okay, here we go. We're going to lose another one. So over the course of the next couple of days, I'm doing what I can to relieve her being egg-bound. I'm giving her Epsom salt baths, gave her a little bit of Tums. And, you know, there was a couple of nights where I was basically had her in this bathroom sink with warm water and Epsom salt and just holding her down there, hoping that she might pass this thing or, or make it work and never happened, never happened. And it looked like she was getting better. And then she'd take a turn for the worst. And then it looked like, you know, another day would go by and I'd see her and she'd you know, be poking her head around. And then a little bit later in the night or whatever, when I got home from work, I was like, okay, you know, am I going to come home to a dead chicken? Or when I go, you know, looking for her in the morning, am I going to wake up, you know, and open the door to the chicken coop and have to pull out a dead chicken or whatever? So this went on for a couple of days and pretty high stress. I mean, there was, I, when I would give her those Epsom salt baths, of course it would be at night because it would be, it was easier for me to catch her. And it was at the end of the day at work. And I was like, okay, well, let's just get you through one more night, right? We'll get you through one more night. And I'd pull her out of the bath or out of the sink, I guess, so to speak, and wrap her up in a towel and just sit in the rocking chair for a few minutes. Just let her relax, you know, whether she, she's obviously struggling and just hope, Hope that that helped loosen up whatever was going on inside of her. And she never passed anything. She never passed another egg. But she did come around. And she wound up going back to her normal old crazy self. Maybe not quite as erratic as before. But definitely still there. And she has since stopped laying. which kind of sucks. But, you know, there's also this part, this dynamic that exists within the flock because she's there. And it really kind of woke me up to some things that are happening all over. But especially with my family and my wife's family and even some of my friends' families that we're seeing, a lot of our parents go through some serious trauma in their lives, you know. Horrible diagnoses or hospitalizations or medical issues, striking things. And that's, that's just the time. That's just the part of this cycle, right? Where you, you get old and then something happens and you can't move as fast or you can't lift as much, or you can't stay awake as long on top of aging and all this other stuff. But they're still a vital component. They're a vital piece of the whole, the whole unit. And it's not like, you know, in most instances where a hen stops laying, that's the time to cull it, turn it into soup, right? You don't necessarily keep feeding them. You don't necessarily keep them going because it's a waste of food, so to speak, or it's a waste of time, so to speak, or it's another risk. that they could get sick or pass something on to the other hens. But the other side of that is they still have a function within the unit. And when it comes to the elderly or the injured, those people still have a function within your unit, within your family. What does any of this have to do with prepping? Well, a lot of times when we get called out on prepper magazines and websites or whatever it might be, they always seem to highlight those fit, capable, muscular, folks that are kind of overshadowed in grit and determination to be able to get to that next stage right whatever that mission is but rarely do those cover models ever highlight the importance of the elders in the group so today we're kind of digging into some of the ways to be ready for when key members of the group can no longer do that heavy lifting and i kind of stole this uh, show from Michael Klein. This is one of the first episodes that I heard of his way back in the day, maybe five years ago or something like that. Six years ago, uh, him and his wife did an excellent show on this very thing. So if you're interested in more of this, more of this type of content, please do check out some of those archives with Michael Klein and, and, uh, his wife. Um, because that's, that's a whole nother aspect of it. That was the, uh, uh, reality check podcast back in the day. But first, before we get on with today's show, Colin, would you like to share your fun fact of the week? What? Hold on. I got to unmute you. What's that? Hold on. Okay. Now we got him. Sorry, I unmuted you. Oh, right. Okay. Guess what? What? Chicken butt. Studies have found that most people feel their happiness or feel their happiness increase in the later decades of their life, from their 60s to their 80s. Really? Yeah. And that's weird because you think that your happiness would go down as your health would go down. As your health would go down, as people, as your... Yeah, yeah. I mean, as you start to experience worse and worse things in your life, but. I don't know. Maybe it's a stress thing. Nothing. I think it's just because they don't care anymore. Yeah. Nothing's like, ah, whatever. Carefree. Yep. Exactly. They let everything go and you can't, what's the saying go? You reach a point where you can't trust a fart. Yeah. Well, okay. So, uh, but we did actually, uh, invite my own parents, uh, to come on the show tonight, uh, to kind of talk about this kind of stuff. And, Before we bring him on, I thought we'd talk just briefly about why this is important in the first place and why these types of things are critical to have within your unit and maintain within your unit. What kind of things did you come up with just off the top of your head, Cohen? Why old people are good allies? Yeah, old and or injured, because I do want to kind of loop the injured into this, because you might have someone who's perfectly healthy and young, but maybe there is some kind of an injury that has them on a limited scale. Maybe there's a back injury or, you know, a broken limb or, you know, some sort of illness or something where they're not able to function at the same, you know, 100% as someone who would be their peer, you know. Okay. Yeah, so the first thing that came to my mind when the idea for this episode was. Pitched to me was that. Older folks may not be as physically capable as someone who, you know, is younger or has just been, I guess, more able to stay in shape and do things. That are more strenuous and laborious. So.... The first thing that came to mind was that was the fact that old people, I mean, they, they have knowledge, like they have, um, they. Know how to, I don't want to, huh? They know how to do it. Correct. They know how to do the things that are, uh, that may need to be done. And like, I feel like wisdom is also a kind of an important thing to keep, depending on the scenario, to keep people on track. So the knowledge of certain skill sets, but also the wisdom that elderly people harness because they've lived longer and they know more. They're more experienced at life. A lot. Of times they might have been. Through a turn or seen a political– agenda uh play out in the past or a series of storms or whatever so they have kind of some life history life experience to add to the mix so to keep you. From from right rushing in yeah i mean you know like the most like probably the most valuable experience that they are likely to have would be the like the idea that they've been through whatever scenario it is that you're in like maybe the area you're in or Yeah, they've been in the scenario that you guys are having, you're facing or whatever, politically or economically or whatever. You know, they know how to handle certain situations depending on like where you're located, what. Region you're in, you know. Yeah. Or maybe, maybe like if. They used to live in an area where tornadoes were common and then just no common, like the regular practice for tornadoes tornado preparedness and all of a sudden an area that never ever gets hit by a tornado you know they know because they've been in that. Area well let's go ahead and bring on some of the coolest old farts that I know my own mom pa so hold on folks let's see if we can figure out how to get them unmuted here are you there? Yep. I'm here. Can you hear me? I can hear you loud and clear. How about the audience? You guys hear them okay? We'll kind of do the, huh? Hello? My dad used to say you could kick a pig and get more out of him than, huh? Yeah. So I thought I'd just bring you guys on the show today just to kind of walk through some of this kind of stuff because I think a lot of times, I mean, you guys are you guys are involved in preparedness and you guys are always here listening to the shows whenever you can. Hell, you're even on in, in the chat room on some nights when I can't even make it to the, to do a show. So there's a lot of support that you guys have in the background that people out there don't really know or know about or see or hear about. But, um, just kind of like I mentioned before, it's part of the unit. And if something were to happen to either one of you, it would be, uh, And it is, and it has been detrimental in the past. It's like, wow, okay, well, we've got to shift gears and make it work. I guess, but there's another side of that where when you start to lose the sense of value, and one of the reasons why I even thought of this show is because of a comment that Dad made this weekend. Uh, actually where you just shoot me a text message and said, Hey, what are you doing? And I told him I was doing this, this and this and said, well, I wish I could come and help you do that. And, uh, it kind of, it kind of was a little bit bittersweet because I understand it's like you, you can't do certain things. Um, and you, I guess what am I trying to say here? That you can't really discount your inability to do stuff because there are other things that you're able to do. So I guess what I'm wondering is when you get to the point where you start to feel like I'm not able to do anything like I used to, how... do you shift gears and start looking toward contributing in other ways. That's a good question well normally your body will tell you You know, as you age, your body is going to tell you what you can and can't do. The only problem is your head doesn't age the same speed as your body. So that hundred pound sack of grain doesn't look that heavy when you're 70 years old, but it is. We've commented a number of times that our brains still think we're 20. And we're King Kong and can do anything we want until we start doing that. And it's like, no, not so much. That's probably the hardest part about getting old is finding your limits. And at that point, you got. To be careful not to exceed those limits because then you risk getting hurt and making it even worse. Well, that's the importance of knowing your limits. What I did was I would go until I got spooked. Yeah. And then stop. Like, oh, that might hurt tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah, that may not be such a good idea. Yeah. Well, and it happens fast. I mean, I remember, so this... not this time last year, I think it was like September last year, uh, you and I were down here in a hundred degree weather, uh, 0% humidity pulling, you know, rolling under the truck, pulling out heads and, you know, doing all kinds of crap underneath it and stuff. And I could tell that, uh, you wanted to be able to go faster, but, or, or do more and be able to to stay out and do the work longer, but I could also tell that it, it was time. I mean, you cut yourself short and, uh, I mean, from my perspective, it, it was like, okay, well we, we're going to have to slow down or we're going to have to take a, take a break or, or whatever, because I, you know, I don't want something to land on you. Right. And I need, I need that knowledge more than I need the extra hands. I need someone to point and shout and tell me how to do this. Yeah, that was one of Big Brandon's comments when he was asking to have all of us go out there last summer was that he wanted to somehow infuse the wisdom that Dad and I had into the heads of the kids. And it's It's not something that you can do other than just share your knowledge and your experiences with other people. And this society has gotten to the point where anyone over 60 is disposable and expendable. And for years, there's been a retired executive association whose whole goal was was to harness that knowledge and that experience of people who've been in the business world to come in and train the young, uh, the young bulls. Yeah. And it's something that has been going on for years. It's like, okay, you're 60, go away. You draw flies and we don't want to deal with you anymore. When indeed elderly people have a tremendous amount of, knowledge and wisdom and I loved my grandparents they were just amazing and my grandmother in particular had some fabulous stories but she was born in 1898 so she went. Through World. War I World War II the depression and us walking on the moon so Look at all of that history and knowledge and her experiences. She said that when she was pregnant with my uncle, who was the last of the four kids, her friends were crying for her because it was in the middle of the depression. And they felt bad for her. And she said, no, I want this baby. So there's a perspective that people tend to ignore just because the person has gray hair or is over 60 years old. They don't pay attention and they don't, you know, and we're grateful that you guys do, that you recognize the knowledge that dad has and you're willing to have him help you and call him with different projects and stuff. Yeah. It's a blessing. Yeah, it's great for me. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you go home bruised and tired and sleep for three days when you leave my place. He really doesn't. No, it's good for me. Yeah. It actually kind of retards the aging. Yeah. Because then you have some value. Yeah. Yeah, you feel useful again. Yeah, that's a key point that I really wanted to get across tonight is that the essence of... feeling valuable and being valuable and how preppers need to be able to capitalize on that um without going the other way like like mom was saying uh and just you know booting them the moment they turn 60 or 70 um are you feeling lucky says in chat we know how to wash dishes and clothes by hand we also babysit reluctantly yeah i mean this That's just it. These are the skill sets. These are the things that can be extremely useful, especially in an environment where you just need a hand or you need to get something done or you need to get from point A to point B and you don't know how to do it. Knowing the right people or the people with the right skill sets within your unit can help can be a lifesaver i mean like for example when i was talking about my dad helped me out with my truck we busted through that and got it done and i was able to um get back to work so for me there was a major financial component tied into getting that job done and i had never done it before and i had never uh i had the ability to get my hands dirty like that before but i had to do it and i had to have the kind of experience that my dad has because of his background that i'm aware We've had Dad on the show for reloading and a couple of other things. I know Mom's been on some of Jordan's shows in the past for different skill sets that she brings to the table that may not be mechanical or physical, but they are definitely skill sets. I wanted to walk through a couple of things just shotgunning a couple of light-duty skill sets that can be used or can be tapped if you are in a situation where you're like, Hey, you know, I, I, I feel old or I am old and I have nothing to contribute, but I can do this, this or this. Um, but before we get into that, Colin, do you want to break in at all and talk about anything that you've heard so far? Yeah. I kind of do a little bit because, uh, I know this seems totally backwards from what the whole point of that is about, but it's, um, As someone who's been in a trade school for a short period of time, one of the things I realized very quickly is the things that industries are producing now are much more advanced technologically than And much more advanced. When it comes to regulations. And production. And. Unfortunately. It's hard. It's hard to say that. What. The knowledge of the people that. Used to do all the work. Is still valuable. To the modern. Production of that particular product. Because what. Mechanic from the 60s. Knows is not gonna do you any good for a modern vehicle but what a mechanic from the 60s knows is still valuable to yourself it's still valuable to the everyday person. Who's willing to do things on their own I mean the idea of. Like someone who works on vehicles is the only thing that comes to mind but I'd imagine there's so many more that that. Idea would also apply to where. Unless you're in the field, then it's not really relevant to you unless you want to use it like in your everyday life. Yeah. Correct. It's kind of like a math class where you're sitting through math class and you're like, I'm never going to use this ever in my whole life until you start using it. And then you use one component of it and that's what you use all the time for your job or whatever. And then if you don't use the other stuff, you pretty much lose it, right? Right. To Colin's. Comment a moment ago, I don't know if you've ever seen the movie The Intern with Robert De Niro, but it's an excellent movie and it directly talks to everything that we're talking about. He had retired, he was bored, his wife had passed away, and he went to work for this gal who had She had just started her own company. She was an entrepreneur. And his knowledge from his previous experience helped her streamline and get her business even more efficient and more productive than it was before he showed up. And he had to learn all the new email and the computer. Stuff and all of that. He was right on top of it. And, you know, we are capable of learning new things. Oh, yeah, no, that's not what I was. Going to say. I understand that. But what I'm saying is it's a perfect example of somebody's life experience coming into a new business with an entrepreneur and allowing them to streamline their business and be more successful. Right, right. Well, Colin, you're right. especially when it comes to the mechanical end of things. The advent of computers, especially in cars, trucks, things like that, have... Well, I mean, everything. I mean, it goes far beyond motor vehicles. Let's talk about everything that has computers in it. Someone who might have been able to repair a fridge... You know, 20 years ago. Now, we'll look at a fridge and be like, why has it got a computer on it? Well, that's the thing. Yeah. The computer has taken away the previous, like in cars, they've eliminated the mechanic and they've turned them into parts changers. Because they don't have to, they can't diagnose anything. They can't second guess anything because everything is controlled by the computer. So all the so-called mechanic can do is change parts. Right. So that's really sad because you've lost a lot of, a lot of knowledge. A lot of critical thinking, a lot of, you know, how things work and go together. That's what you're losing most is the thought process. So when it comes to getting that kind of stuff back, you know, getting that thought process back, getting, you know, back to basics, this is kind of where I think there's a lot of value when it comes to especially the elderly and the injured. Because if you are incapable of doing the heavy lifting, doing the mowing, doing the wood splitting, doing the hunting, doing the whatever it might be, hell, even picking up a child, you know, that might be too much of a challenge. But there are still things that you can do. So there's a couple of different things that I have on my list just as pieces. task-based things where you know if there's someone around who is looking for something to do and doesn't feel like they have the ability to help these are kind of like the things where i i find a lot of value in someone who's done it before someone with the experience um and if you want if you guys i'll throw two or three of them out and if you guys just want a shotgun other ones we can uh to just kind of go around the table and talk about a couple of direct skill sets that you think would be useful and maybe a quick reason why. So like for example, morning watch. So if you're in a situation where you need to be able to keep an eye on things early, early in the morning, having someone who's a little elderly on your side can be a huge advantage because because I've never seen an elderly person who decided to sleep in until 10 o'clock in the morning. We're lucky if we get till 3. Right, exactly. So having someone on standby for the 3 a.m. morning watch to relieve someone who might be on alert until that time would be huge, because those morning twilight hours are the worst, especially for something like that. And just in general, just being a watch... So, or how about another one? Another one I have, like Colin was kind of alluding to, is planning or problem solving. Being able to take a step back and if you see a couple of dudes trying to figure out how to rig up a piece of equipment in a way, you know, you can take a step back and the person who might not be physically handling the equipment can see it from a different perspective and be like, whoa, okay, wait a second. It's leaning a little bit too far this way or you're overweight on one side or, you know, that kind of stuff. Or just general problem solving. Like, hey, you know, we've got to figure out some logistics here getting someone from point A to point B. I don't have time because I have to do all the normal things that I have to do. can you take the lead on this and, and get the logistics dialed in that kind of stuff? Um, what do you think, buddy? Do you have one or two things and why it might be a useful or critical skillset? Um, well, I was thinking kind of like broad spectrum, a lot of, like we were just talking about. Uh, like computers and stuff like that. And how, you know, what, what people, the way people used to go about thinking through things has changed, but a lot of the stuff that hasn't necessarily advanced technologically. And a lot of, a lot of the stuff that we talk about on the podcast is not, uh, it's not computerized. A lot of it's off grid and the skill sets that we're talking about is very primitive. So things like, um, understanding fighter starting, you know, Or maybe what not. To blow up. How about what not to throw up? Because they've done it before. They had all the toys and the fun stuff back in the day. Dynamite and who knows what else. I think there's a value in a lot of the things that we as a. Society don't necessarily practice in our everyday lives anymore because uh, who are surrounded by so many modern conveniences. Um, so like you said, like how to, how to properly rig up a piece of equipment or, uh, whatever it might be. Yeah. Uh, gosh, I don't even know off the top of my head. Um, well, what about you, mom? What are you throwing in there? Well, um, I think a lot of it is, uh, planning. Um, and I, um, I know a lot of people think, well, you know, you're old. You're stupid. You don't know how to plan things, but, um, planning is critical. To anything, obviously. And, um, there was a point in our lives where, um, you guys were going to school. I was going to school. Dad was playing Mr. Mom and all of that had to be coordinated. And that entailed a good deal of planning. And, um, it isn't a skill that you lose over the years. It's something that, okay, I've got to do this and this and this. And if you're organized, you can figure it out. Like, okay, you go do this. You can, you can designate tasks to certain people, even though you may not be able to do them yourselves. You can certainly see the big picture and say, okay, this needs. To be done. And then this, and then this. Yeah. And, that doesn't require any heavy lifting. It's heavy mental lifting. But it is a critical component to everyday but also big picture type stuff too. Right. And unfortunately a lot of times people in general just see the crash in front of them. They're not seeing beyond that. And don't do, I can't tell you how many people in my life I've run into who never have a plan B or C. It's just not in their mindset to, okay, if this doesn't work for me, what's the next plan? What's the next plan? And have contingencies in case whatever we originally decided on doesn't work. And if you talk to people, a lot of them don't even have a clue what you're talking about. Yeah. And if you're two or three steps ahead, it's in your head. And if you have someone who is capable of being like, hey, look, we have to take a step back or we need to go this direction or we need to be able to stop here and take a look or reevaluate the situation. I mean, that's usually, so in the safety world, that is a critical role. And it's something that has to be basically forced on people so that they don't rush in to an environment that could kill them. And when it comes to having someone who's elderly or injured in your group, having that mentality, that planning component to it, it not only helps the unit, but it also, I mean, just for the planning side, but it also takes the weight off of the people who have to force themselves to do it. You know what I mean? I do because a lot of people just don't have, that skill set. They don't know how to. Plan beyond five minutes from now when I check Facebook. They can't do it. What about you, Dad? What are some of the hardcore honed skills that you've got that you think you might contribute? Well... Snark? No. I wanted to mention something that I learned a long time ago that we were told a long time ago when I was in the service back before computers. And instant on lighting? Yeah. Yeah, it was just one step above candle. No, they made a study during or after World War II and they figured out that to keep one combat soldier on the line takes 20 people to support him in various stages, whether they're making bullets, whether they're making meals, whether they're carrying messages, you name it. It takes 20 people to keep one combat soldier in the field. And that applies to exactly what you said. Those that can't do the heavy lifting, can't do any of the, that they're not mentally or physically capable of doing, can always fill a support role of some kind. And that's where the elderly would play a big part. Because they do bring a lot to the table. Yeah, you just have to look past their ornery nature and bad jokes. Yeah. Yeah, there's a few things you've got to kind of overlook. I mean. The grumpy old man syndrome. Well, it's... Well, a lot of it is just The other piece, you know, when Colin was talking about people tend to be more happy in their older years, a lot of it you have to consider in those early years, they were working, they were raising a family, they were worried about money concerns, housing, food on the table, all of that. That high stress slowly but surely eased off once the kids went their separate ways and And there was less stress going on. And then the health issues came on. But by and large, there's a lot of elderly. There was a lady that used to come into our office all the time. She was from Brooklyn. So she and I were instant fans because my grandmother was from Brooklyn. But she dressed like she was hitting the red carpet every day. She had a fabulous sense of humor. She was 80 years old and you could never guess it. Talking to her, looking at her. And I told her once, I said, I want to be like you when I grow up. She was awesome. And she was fun to talk to. And a lot of times, you know, somebody may have just looked at her and said, well, I don't want to bother. But these are the kind of people that have wonderful personalities. stories to tell, life stories to tell, and the experiences that they've had can inevitably help somebody else down the road if somebody would take the time to listen to them. Well, that's actually one of the things that I had on my list was education slash entertainment. Because there's a lot of times when, because we don't have a TV here, and we have not had a TV in my house since Colin was probably two years old. Um, and if I could have gotten rid of it sooner, I would have, and it's been an awesome thing. But what happens is you fill the gaps of silence, you know, sitting around watching TV by sitting around the table, playing dominoes or cards or whatever, and just talking or, you know, going over stuff. And, and there is value in that. Uh, even if you don't have power, if you don't have, you know, bright, shiny lights in your face, you have a connection and you can build relationships. And that, along with the educational and entertainment component, I mean, being able to be, to hear a story or to, you know, go over something and jogs a memory or, you know, it allows someone who's lived a life to be able to share their life with the people at the table, you know. And I think that's a big part of inclusion is, of the elderly in your preparedness plan is, you know, allowing them to share themselves, share their life stories and, and learn from that stuff. Great. And, you know, cause even my father, he would talk about how when he and his buddies would go hunting, they had built a teepee and they would lean it up against some pine trees and the next group of hunters that came by could use it. And then somebody stole it. And it's like, okay, whatever. But there were a lot of things that I learned from both my parents, actually, and my grandparents that were fascinating stories and good lessons, too. And they're important. Oh, yeah. And you have to take the time to listen to them instead of interrupting all the time like I do. Colin, you've had a few minutes to kind of mull over another one. Think of, have you got any other skill sets or specific activities you think might be a useful thing to keep in the prepper pantry, so to speak? I mean, are we. Talking like any specific scenario? Yeah, specific task or a specific ability. Like, for example, one of the other things I had was like wood, like tool sharpening, you know, being skilled and taking the time to sharpen a tool properly, you know, and really making sure you got a good edge on something. A lot of times people just blaze right through it because they don't have time. But you give someone who has a little bit of skill a nice file and a rusty old piece of steel, they'll make something sharp as a tack for you. Probably the ability to beta hook. And go out and get food if you're in a pinch. Obviously that doesn't apply to everyone because you're not always near water, but in general it's a good skill to have because it's super simple but then it's easy to pass on but it's not uh it's it could be really valuable and it could yeah like what was that it's like. You got someone in the boat who can keep your lines full and you know hand you hand you another pole once you run out of bait or once you reel in something in, I mean, that could shrink your fishing time or shrink whatever. But also, um, there was a story that I was told, um, by actually one of my old bosses. Uh, her mother was, uh, uh, or no, she had spent some time with one of her aunts or uncles or grandmas during the, who came through the great depression and she went outside and she basically threw together a weed soup or excuse me a weed salad and basically she knew what wild edibles existed in their own backyard and she came back with enough to feed uh the entire family so you know light foraging just because you're not out there reeling in a you know 15 pound salmon doesn't mean that you can't contribute in other ways. Like understanding botany or edible plants and being able to go out and do some light foraging with a little kid. Take them with you. You know, show them what's what, have them taste it so that they learn by doing and really kind of build on that skill set and transfer that skill set from one person to another. You don't need. When you sent us that picture of the cougar paw, it reminded me of when Dad and I took you boys out to the desert and you were, Brandon and him were shooting and I took you and Eric and we were walking around and I was pointing out different tracks to you guys and trying to explain what they were, you know, like rabbits and mice and stuff like that. Those are things, basic survival skills really because you need to know okay if i'm out here on a survival test and i'll and i'm not. Well i lost her for a second hopefully that's not me did we lose it i might have lost might have lost them oh looks like there was there we go hold on sorry about that we lost you guys for just a second what was that he said ma. Oh, I was talking about how when you sent that cougar paw print photo to us, it reminded me of when Dad and I took all three of you out. He and Brandon were shooting, and you and Eric and I were walking around, and I was showing you guys different prints that were in the ground around there. There was rabbits, and I think there was some deer had been wandering through and things like that. And if you're on a survival issue, if you don't know what's wandering around in the area, you're apt to starve to death. There's a rabbit wandering around. There's a deer wandering around. Pay attention to that. And it was just something I was trying to, even though you guys were small, and I doubt that you even remember that, it was the idea that I was trying to get you to pay attention to your surroundings. Mm-hmm. What about you, Dad? Drop one more in there. Magpie? God, no. Flying trash pandas? No. Gross. Carp ain't too good either. No, God. And whatever that thing is that you fished out of the Columbia, that had. To go back. Well, Ryan's the one who caught that one. I know. That's what I just said. So one more, one more for you, dad, and then we'll have to wrap up the show for the night. Well, uh, the, the elderly and infirm can pick up the slack between nothing and the hail and Hardy. Yeah. Uh, those that are the, those that are able to do the job and get it done. And, uh, You've got the elderly there that can, or the infirm that can plan things, can run errands, can take phones, do phone calls. Hell, even moving an extension cord out of the way. Yeah. Yeah. Anything, anything possible. I mean, it's just like a gopher on a construction site. Yeah. Without the heavy lifting. Well, and here's the big thing. I mean, I, I is probably the last question to end the show. Does that make you feel devalued or does it do the opposite? Taking, taking, uh, a backseat to those that are doing the work. Yeah. No, no, not at all. Uh, That actually is good for you. You've done it. You know how to do it. You can give them pointers. And it's not demeaning by any means. Some people may think it is, but they've probably been in control all their life. You know, I mean, always been in a position of authority or something like that to where they had people doing things for them. Anybody that's had to fend for himself doesn't mind helping somebody else. Yeah, exactly. Well, thank you both for coming on and sharing this topic with me tonight and Colin. Colin, did you want to add anything else before we wrap up the show? No, I don't, I don't, I don't think I have anything. Okay. That's good. I think, um, you know, we, we obviously didn't, uh, do a commercial tonight, uh, but please do check out some of the other shows this week here on the next generation, excuse me, on prepper broadcasting. Uh, we've got James Walton with the, I am Liberty show on Wednesdays. 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We look forward to joining you. uh, these other show hosts as we move forward with Prepper Broadcasting. Please check them out as well and, uh, stay tuned for more here at Prepper Broadcasting. I think for the final takeaway, uh, I think it's really important that the knowledge and experience of the elder people within our community is not taken for granted. Um, It's easily taken for granted because we get busy. We get busy with our lives and with our kids and with our jobs and with prepping and doing all this stuff. But sometimes we fail to see the importance of the people who have already done the same stuff. Or we fail to lean on these people in our lives and these units or these people within the unit, so to speak, for their network or their ability to network. You know, we fail to lean on their skill sets and really know them and learn them and follow the skill sets that they have and listen to what they've been telling us, basically, kind of like was mentioned earlier about, you know, this, the retired executives component, like, hey, look, this has been done before successfully, right? you got to do is listen and follow the plan and you'd be surprised how well it works. You know, we need to lean on that experience and really listen to what's been done in the past, maybe right or wrong, you know, and find out why Things have failed before you commit to that same failure yourself. But perhaps one of the biggest things that we have to lean on when it comes to learning from the elderly is patience. The patience that they have and the ability to train, to teach, and what we can learn just by watching in some cases, or what they can bring out. By observing what we're doing, making minor corrections, offering suggestions. Hey, put a lever under that and you'll be able to move it faster, farther. Don't forget to factor this in when it comes to your planning. These aren't little things, but they're often neglected. They do play a major role in overall preparedness within a unit. So if you're looking at the potential of cutting your losses and leaving someone behind or just cutting them out of the plan entirely, you might want to reconsider. Because somewhere there's a chicken roaming around who's still able to contribute in the ways that she can contribute, even though she's not necessarily producing at the same level she was in the past. Still part of the flock, still part of the team, still part of the family. Lastly, in case you missed it, on last week's show, we did an entire episode on the Dust Bowl and the potential of returning back to that. We've got some even more stark weather reports since last week's show, so definitely something worth keeping an eye on. If you're interested, check out the previous episode on your phone on the show page or on your favorite streaming service. And while you're there, be sure to leave us a five-star review. It does help to boost our presence and it allows us to share this message with other people all around the globe. Next week, uh, is 4th of July week, I think. Hold on a second. Is it already 4th of July? I gotta check. I can't believe this. By God, it is. So we'll be the first show coming back off of 4th of July, uh, And be sure to tune in on the 4th of July show. There's going to be some special editions from all of the show hosts. So check that out. And we'll have something fun coming on the hinges of, or on the heels, I guess, of 4th of July. That's going to be it for today, everyone. Thank you for joining us on The Next Generation Show. Thanks for our special guests for coming on. 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