Patriot Power Hour #336 Feat. JFurg of Phoenix Survival! Prepping; Gold; Silver & More!

M HM statement of purpose. Should I email you? Should I put this on your action item list? You decide your own love love involvement. We are the Proper Broadcasting Network. You are now listening to The Patriot Power Hour, the newest show of the Prepper Broadcasting Network. This live episode features the situational awareness you need to practice self reliance and independence. Introducing your hosts, Ben the Breaker of Banksters and Future Dan, the editor of Future danger dot Com. We're live Patriot Power Hour. Ben the Breaker of Banksters here February fifth, twenty twenty six. Future Dan unavailable today, but just by the luck of the universe or Seren Deputy or destiny. Who knows coincidence. I don't believe in coincidence. But we have special guests tonight, Phoenix Survival z Own, Jay Fergs. So we were actually gonna have Jordan on. Anyway at like in about half hour in but the very last second, unfortunately Future Dan not able to join. So I'm gonna bring Jordan on just a little bit sooner after I knock out the news blitz, we'll bring her on. I believe I see here in the back chatter and the backstage already too. So that's awesome. I was actually. Gonna be on Jordan's show earlier this week, and I got caught up with work. I mean, I don't know, it's freezing out, it's February, but it's a good time to work, very busy time over the year. For me, at least. I'm like looking outside, I'm thinking to myself, Hey, I don't really mind staying inside and working in ten twelve hours on a computer because it's like three degrees out anyway, So I don't have cabin fever yet. Starting to get there. February, I'm always so glad it's the shortest month. I'm just so sick for the winter by then. But I'll say this, winners here where I'm at aren't that bad. And Future Dance also said, he you know, he's from up north, winners here aren't that bad. But this has been a pretty rough one. I've been on the East Coast for about fifteen years now, and I would say. This is the second or third roughest, or maybe the roughest. But it's not that bad. Let me tell you. You go to Purdue, he go to westl Off he at Indiana and go to seven to thirty am calculus class in February and then you let me know and guess so I just didn't go to class. I digress. Let's a couple of things to get into. Then we'll get Jordan on here. For the foremost, I'm gonna go through the news blitz, but I'm not gonna bury the lead either. Gold and silver been absolutely crazy, and that's what Jordan and I were really going to talk about. Hit me up late last week, I believe, and said, holy cow, we gotta talk about this. She just had a show with gold about gold backs, so like perfect timing just a few weeks ago, a couple weeks ago kind of the gold currency. So silver is down like twenty percent in the last twenty four hours. It went from one hundred and twenty bucks about a week and a half ago to under seventy bucks. Bitcoin totally eviscerated in the last twenty four forty eight hours. Oh it's gnarly. Keep in mind Bitcoin, gold and silver are still up big time in the last five plus years. But yeah, call it a haircut, call it devastation, whatever it is. When there's blood in the streets and people are freaking out, that's when you buy and everyone's jubilant and thinks it's time to get a Lamborghini, and maybe that's when you sell a little bit, right. So I personally made my first purchase of this bear market on bitcoin today. I'm also looking at some gold and silver. If gold gets to under four thousand, and if silver gets back into the fifty dollars range, I'll be getting some of that. So by low sell high people are freaking out, especially bitcoiners, but even gold and silver people are just scared almost And we'll talk to Jordan a lot about this. I'm actually a little freaked out because gold and silver are actually trading like. Bitcoin, or even more insane actually than bitcoin. So that's pretty saying. Okay, but I'm gonna go through this news blitz because Epstein unbelievable. I wanted to hit get through that real quick, and as you can see, we also have four and blacks op suspected I had to get this news blitz. Then we're gonna bring Jordan on. All right, here we go. February fifth, twenty twenty six, Episode three three six. Let's start with Powerful Pedophiles Exposed indicator. We have five headlines under this single indicator. Of course, many new documents were released just about the time of our last episode last week, but uh massive fallout since then. DOJ files show Epstein was reportedly about to cooperate with Fed prosecutors weeks before he found he was found dead in a jail. Globalist Microsoft founder mister Gates needs to answer for Epstein allegations. His ex wife says the Dems are not. Protecting the Clintons, and the Clintons look to be a not ready to testify. Hillary's trying to clap back, but Gates and Clinton just no way out at this point. And Iconic left. This anarchist caught seemingly advising Epstein on how to outrun pedo accusations. So just all the emails between Epstein and people just disgusting. I honestly don't look at this stuff. I don't even want to see his face. I don't want to see any. Of these people. It makes me want to puke. I've done some data mining on Patriot Power Hour, and I've only ingested about a third of the episodes that we've done in the last decade. We were talking about Epstein before COVID, so we were talking about Epstein before he killed himself. In twenty nineteen. So already talked about it a lot being vindicated, but doesn't make me happy necessarily. So leave it at that. And then foreign black ops suspected FBI documents claim Epstein was trained as a spy for Israel. All these. Different sources corroborating each other's stories. Illegal bio labs in Vegas and California linked to Chinese national with alleged military civil fusion ties. President sent National Director of Intelligence, national intelligence director, that is, to Fulton County election warrant execution. We talked a little bit about that last Saturday Patriot Power. I was usually on Thursdays, but we ended up talking about that some last show. As well. All right, that's the news blitz. With that said, we do have jayferg a Phoenix Survival on the back end. Well, Jordan, I didn't need to send you any invite and I don't have to unmute you either, so feel free, don't meet yourself and come on air. How you doing tonight? Oh? I gotta add you to stage. I figured you could add yourself. My fault I got you out of the stage. Now, Hi, how are you? I'm doing good? We did it at the same time, didn't we because it double clicked. That's funny. That's funny. I'm doing okay, it's I'm a little rattled with the craziness a gold, silver bitcoin, but I also know and knew this would happen. So it's just that's you know, that's one side, and then with this whole Epstein stuff, I'm just not even hardly looking at it, but i am. I don't know. That's what makes me want to puke. Yeah, truth be told. I'm not too worried about sower. Yeah, go for it. Tell us why? Well, okay, so we saw the big incline where we hit one hundred and at one point, and we knew it was going to potentially go higher. But during that time, everybody, especially a lot of old timers, were selling their selling their gold and silver like at top dollar. So with so many people selling, you can't help but expect for it to drop and to drop hard, especially when the US meant stopped any productions and sells. On top of that, it's needed in so many industries, so you have to have a bit of a decline for companies and industries to keep going. So right now I have my Kitko up on my phone it's at sixty five seventy six, and it dropped another dollar from sixty six dollars. But truth be told, we're gonna see that it's gonna go sideways for a little bit and then it's gonna it's working on its level and back out. I do believe both by the end of the year, we will see it up in the hundreds again in no time. Because if you look coppers staying at a steady rate, gold is still staying at a good price. And here's how I know for a fact that in my opinion, I shouldn't say for a fact in my opinion that it is going to increase. Is if you look at the major silver distributors and sellers online, for example APMX, they are still selling their silver regardless of what the market is at for twelve dollars twelve dollars at minimum above melt. Most of these corporations sell it for anywhere between. You typically see three to six dollars above melt. So the facts that they're still selling at eighty nine and ninety seven dollars up to ninety seven dollars a piece goes to show that even they project the market to keep to reincrease because they're not adjusted as quickly as we are seeing elsewhere. A lot of coin shops also quit, except in buying backs. A lot of places, from what I heard from other friends in the coin industry, we're seeing signs on their local coin shops stating that they were no longer currently purchasing, and there for a minute alone, I mean, actually turned off their websites so you could not purchase anything. Oh wow, just turn it off. Huh. It's like turn off the lights in the twenty first century of your shop. It sells, right. They blocked all cells so they marked it as unable to purchase or the line the site would be down. And then after like a day, certain sites se especially some of these major sites, then started reselling again. But with the way their prices are sitting, I don't believe even if it does drop back down, it is going to jump right back up. It's just how the market works. I fully believe it. And we got forty five minutes to dive deep into this, which we're gonna do because I'm a silver nerd and it sounds like you are as well. I'm so stuck to have you here. I want to keep things in perspective. I'm looking at the not even a long term chart, but a couple month long chart. We're at silver price now where we were in the middle of December, So even though it's like gone from one hundred and twenty to sixty four bucks, it's like it's only been thirty or forty days. Easy come, easy go, And usually once you get through those crazy prices the first time, the second time is way easier. That means I think we'll get above one hundred and twenty on the next spot. Even though silver is at sixty five eleven right now for melt, I'm still seeing five grams of silver go for thirty dollars a piece, So that the want and the demand is still there and people are still paying that watching the market value for a half ounce, a quarter ounce, or a ten ounce, it's still up there. And I don't think people realize is just because the market is fluctuating the way it is, doesn't mean that the soilver itself is less valuable. Even though the markets as it is on the buyer's end, I see it still on the seller's end, I still see it going. And here's the thing that a lot of people don't realize is gold, silver, any precious metals is not a one all b all I hit the top dollar, I can retire for the rest of my life. No, it is a long term investment and a long term plan. So you have a four oh one k, I have a silver growth. So that's what I look at is the market is going to flex, it's going to ebb and flow all sorts of different directions. But in long term, anything I buy in silver or gold or whatever type of metal, it is going to retain a level of value, if not increase over the long term. Perfectly said. I've always related it to an insurance policy that never expires and actually can grow in value, but at a minimum it maintains its value against inflation. And there's been. So much suppression of silver from let's just call it twenty eleven when it had a big bowl market to forty bucks. They pulled out all types of bankster manipulation, and then for the next fifteen years it was suppressed big time. But in the last couple of years it's like they've lost control. But in my opinion, the crazy ups and downs we're seeing, well, especially the downs that's paper price, that's totally different than the physical And that's what you're saying too, right. Well, because a lot of people don't realize your fural one k is set on a market rate. So if you decide to leave a company and cash out your four O one k, or if you have to borrow against it, the amount that you actually obtain is based on the close of market at end of day. So if that market decides to plummet, you are only going to be able to withdraw the amount at which the market value was sitting at. And a lot of people don't realize your foural one k is a set limit to a degree because there are parts of it that go into the market and it flexes and changes with the daily value, just like our gold, our silver, or platinum, and even our copper. Well, the industrial demand is what makes the difference. For silver. I like gold. I feel like gold is the true insurance, like the neutral. You'll never be sad that you have gold. I would never want to sell my gold unless I'm literally paying to save myself or a loved one's life for medical treatment or with starving to death. That's how I look at it. Same with silver. But silver isn't just the monetary it is the industrial with all the solar panels and batteries. Well it's not that right. Copper as well, so too in certain medical lines coppers used in med gas lines. We're seeing copper jump up. I'm seeing people pay six dollars an ounce for premium copper, even though copper itself is maybe five dollars a pound. Yeah, five eighty eight a pound. And so it's what happens in my opinion. Again, I think because of the increase on silver, which we had to see it fall, you would see a forced boost in copper, and there are certain metals in the long term, Yes, we do want to increase, but people don't realize what it goes into the chips, the pro you know, all of these things that our electronics are based on, our medical systems are based on our medical devices that require them. And so when the government stops at that point, when do you hit a point? Then what year was it that the US actually made people turn over their silver. Mid thir I don't know. I thought it was a little later than that. But you know, we saw World or two. I'll go, I'll go look that up, go for it. I should know. So at what point we saw where the government, you know, when when the metals were at a point where they were needed more than the investment for the people they had people, they were seizing it back. It was a buyback or a penalty. And so we saw that and a lot of people were actually very concerned with how quickly the market was inclining that we would see that again, especially with the US mint stopping and a bunch of other things going on, that was a bit of a concern. I wasn't too concerned about it, but at the same time, it was a healthy concern because when the market increases too quickly, it does affect things in a certain degree. You don't want it to stay. So, in my opinion, you want to see a growth chart that grows steadily. If it increases too fast, then it typically does have a plummet before it climbs back up and levels out. So that's like we saw the market for the longest time around thirty dollars. Then it stayed at fifty to sixty for quite a while. Correct, Is this the tenure hold on? What is this is very term? Actually, let's zoom out. We're gonna let's yeah, if it. Too much it's just a straight line up. So that's kind of telling. But let me. Reform this one nicely here. I mean it really is. I just look get a year. It stayed pretty steady around thirty twenty five, well, no, thirty to forty dollars for from March to July. There you go pretty much all of twenty four. For all of twenty twenty four it was like twenty five bucks, and most of twenty twenty five it was like thirty thirty three bucks. And that's what we want to see on a chart in my you know, in my point of view, is a steady growth because what that means is the market can handle it. The cost is still there, and it matches where we're at with income and everything else, because you don't want to go silver poor, same with you don't want to go gun poor or whatever it is you're into you because I saw where as soon as price is hit ninety eight dollars, people were buying up silver so hard, and then the second hit one twenty they sold it. So of course it's gonna again. It's gonna drop, but you want to steady incline because then you know the entire market across the board can maintain it. So at this point, I think we're going to see a steady incline. But I do think we are going to stay around the one tens to one twenties at some point, and that's going to be our regular, our new normal. The math of just the industrial demand and the deficits and the mining and all that support one hundred dollars easy. But with these spikes, we might see spikes to two or three hundred and then drops to seventy or eighty. Right now we're at like sixty six. Crazy spikes up at that, I think that volatility will be crazy. I think I think it's gonna pop higher than ever, but it's gonna get Honestly, I think the system falling apart. It's like a washing machine that's this balanced, and it's just like. Bongdong Dong do well. And a lot of people don't realize is the value of precious metals is very codependent upon the value of the dollar. Our dollar has declined in value to such a degree that it did not surprise me that silver on top of it and gold were increasing at the rate they were. They just we should go back to a gold standard. In my opinion, having something that stands behind the dollar is going to be better for the economy. But again, at this point, you know I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink. So you know I wish in one hand, you know the other saying, but but for me, like for you you're into bitcoin, I don't, I'm not. That's just a personal preference. For me, it's non existent money. It would be like for me, it's like playing with play money. I can have Monopoly dollars all day, but unless there's something physically back in it, it's just paper. I'll say this. If you don't have electricity and internet, you have no bitcoins. So that's why you better have some gold and silver and some lead, and some medical supplies and food and golden water before anything. And I try to tell people like having an ounce or five ounce or ten ounces, you know, that's great, but if you're going to start start buying silver, maybe look into the lower denominations. You know, you know there are grams, there are many different levels of grounds. But you know, you have your tenth ounce, you have your quarter ounce, you have your half ounce. You don't have to break your bank just to start your slow investment into your future and the future of your family. And for example, here we go. One of our listeners on YouTube says, my whole seller just stopped going down with spot at seventy three, no lower, They capped it. So a lot of these host sellers cannot go below that seventy three right now for a buyer. Amazing cost, amazing cost. But you know people are going to buy up so quickly again. I think that's going to cause the silver to jump again too, just as quick. It's as a finance nerd, I'm nerding out just researching all of this, but it's actually kind of scary to me. I expected all this to happen sooner, but I knew it was going to happen eventually. And these are the four shocks of the real earthquake. That's how I see this, right, Is that a good analogy? No, it is that we are looking at. Yeah. I was trying to think almost like an EKG of the metal market, right. It is. It is a constant incline and level out. But you know, the last thing we want to see is to see it flatline, not at all. Do you what do you know about I think pre nineteen sixty four quarters and dimes and stuff. Have you got any of those before? I have? I gotten into it. I have quite a bit. So as it's called a junk silver, anything pre nineteen sixty four is typically a certain level of silver. Nineteen sixty four dimes are ninety percent. You have your quarters, the only one that the dates don't are a little more limited or war nickels. That's a much more precise year range that actually may contains silver. But yes, I am all for it. I have my mercury dimes, my silver dimes, my silver quarters, I have my bicentennials. I even have, you know, the silver proofs, like the commemorative silver proofs that are ninety percent silver. Like these are all things that still hold value, whether it's for melt or the fact that it's from nineteen oh six or whatever year that it was made and has that amount of metal in it. Historic artifacts really cool to have. I remember when I first started stacking, and I don't know, twenty eleven, twelve, twenty thirteen, I was just getting really cool single ones that I wanted. I don't know. It's kind of like collective baseball cards, but it won't burn if the house catches on fire. And also you can melt it and turn it into just plain old silver. But there's all types of cool collector's aspect of it. At this point we might be past the collector for fud. Now we're at the SHTF. But how about this, Jordan, I was watching the YouTube channel, you know, that's where all the best research has done, except for chat GPT these days, of course, And so I did find a really good suggestion. It's hide your silver and plain sight by just having a mason jar of your dimes and quarters, like ten dollars worth of chain. The robbers ain't even gonna grab that because. No one even wants dimes and quarters, but it's actually like several thousand dollars worth of silver. M h. Yeah, I am not against it at all. Having a having your precious metals or backup money put away, but put in a way where it's not gonna be easily found, is I think ideal in any situation. Same with you know, cash is king until it's not, and cash will always be king. Well, cash will be king for a much longer amount of time in my opinion, before you have to go to silver and gold and in which case you are gonna want those junk silvers because a lot of people aren't as verse with you know, premium silver like you and I are, or like Bill here in our chat room, we a lot of people are going to be more familiar with the dimes, the nickels, the orders, the ass the American silver eagles. Those are gonna be something more common that people recognize versus the high premium stuff that you and I have put up for the worst possible moment. Yes, there's an order of like what order I would sell my silver, right it did, those would be some of the last ones I would sell that They probably want to get the most value as I would want. I have a little bit of the I definitely have some of the pre nineteen sixty four. I have some just random silver I got from. A silversmith too. That's pretty cool. It's just like literally globulars and pobules. Oh yeah, exactly. Hand I got a couple of those. I've got a couple hand pores. And then I do have silver shot as well. Silver Shot has been a big one that people are going crazy over, and like I said, I'm seeing a lot a lot of people really buying up copper now too, because a lot of people think copper is going to be the next silver. Also though, when people can't afford gold, they go to silver. When they can't go to silver, they go to copper. So it is a it is just the natural progression of things. And I honestly thought we were going to see a forced, a forced increase in the market just on copper itself because of where silver was setting, because less people were buying, more people were selling, and I think those all contributed into the quick drop. But like I said, I do think it's going to come back up and it's going to level out. Yeah, and it's it's gonna be sooner than later. In my expectation. I think there's a lot of funky business going on as well, both on the up and the down. The banksters are making a killing with their insider trading, but the actual physical silver that the truth will come out about that, and that the same with same with copper. Like you said, there's. Structural deficits, and when silver gets so expensive they try to where possible. Sometimes it's not possible, but in some places they can Instead of using silver, they can use copper. Now the thing will break down quicker and my co host Future Dan he hates chineseium made in China electronics that break in like a year. Well, let me tell you what if they have to reduce their silver or eliminate it, that stuff's going to break it like a week now. But we saw China actually stopped any output of their silver for a time. They were not actually I don't believe they're still actually putting out any silver. They actually halted that probably about two months back, but where no silver was being exported out of China. Here's the thing, though, China's not actually the largest silver producer in the world, so the fact that they think they dominate the world. Yes, I do think that may also play a part of the market. But China stopped outsourcing it, so none of it is being exported. I don't know if they started that back up, but at last I heard and read there was still no export of silver out of China as of currently. Yes, and I feel like the US could be on that path too. Just today, was it today or last night? It's in the last twenty four to forty eight hours. Vans and Trump both have talked about strategic metals and evening or leveling the playing field and essentially put in I'm an economics guy, saw I'm kind of cringing to say this, but price floors and price ceilings to facilitate that, and that might be like one hundred and fifty dollars silver two hundred dollars silver. So here's the thing. Turkey, Mexico, and Poland are actually the world's largest silver mines currently. Okay, I did not know Poland. I knew Mexico for sure, but Turkey and Poland too, you said, okay, and. That's where we run into issues with other. It. Sorry. So in my opinion, the whole tariff and everything I think is great. But the fact that our country has became so reliant upon China and India for certain things I think has been the biggest issue. And I think we see that in all of our markets, especially here. The fact that there are large silver mines in Peru and other countries as well, it just goes to show there are more things that can be done to enrich the entire world without having to limit it to specific regions. For sure. And I got a feeling there's some silver hidden a way up in Alaska or out West somewhere. Not that we need to tear it up. But on the other hand, future Dan and I have always said, we think the US is holding that in their back pocket huge oil reserves. Urine. California is sitting on a bunch of oil. But because of how the governor or however they put it in an act, you cannot mine any oil in California. And they are sitting on an oil giant oil reserve just under the ground. And it's hard to believe that they went to cash in with the oil, and I can't. It leaves a level level of control. If you think about it. If you control a mine of any kind, whether it be a precious metal, silica, whatever, then you do hold a level of control. And say for that region, them limiting people mining it, I think is just another cap of control control because if you think about it, fuel on the West Coast, is that such a ridiculous market which helps the businessmen and the larger people up top, but it doesn't do anything for the little So the second you start mining you're a big reserve there, then you no longer hold as much in your pocket because in the long picture, yes, you may make a lot of now a lot now, but you're in the long picture. You can't milk the people for every cent they have just for a fuel of gas, I mean a tank of gas. Not to mention, you can skim a lot more taxes if the underline it's more expensive. Hey, yeah, because their taxes are said thirteen percent, they have like a double or triple tax with groceries and everything else. It's absurd, gnarly gnarly. How did you get into silver? And just older even prepping? What was your story overall? Especially on silver though? How did you get into this? Silver was something that I've been interested in for a long time, but it came down to the financial aspect. I actually probably didn't really start putting any money into it until about a year ago, not even a full year, maybe we'll say eight to nine months ago. But I've always been holding on to my junksilver, which isn't very much because you know, when you have to live on a certain financial means, you try to not overcumber yourself in a certain way. Being a prepper, though it has been a lifestyle thing for me. I grew up very poor, so learning to be very self sufficient was key. Y two K. Having my own parents. Tell my own mother tell me that I need to be ready for anything, that anything could happen, you know, really set the tone. But for gold and silver it really grew. And then I'm one of those people who I completely nerd out and go into the rabbit hole and then I weigh I actually, before I started really buying, I was way in the markets. I'm one of those I'm like a cupon shopper. I don't want I set a limit for how much I'm allowed to spend and how much I am willing to spend on one item. For me, it is a matter of price shopping, and then if it seems worth it and it's not going to hurt us on a financial end, then I'm allowed to do it, or I can go ahead and do it. My partner will even tell you I am a low maintenance woman, but I have one of the most expensive hobbies stacking and prapping. Huh. Yeah, I've been a prepper for a long time. I mean a very long time. I've been on the network eight years now, I think. Yeah, definitely before us, like you were well established in. Months yeah a month after Ryan. Dang, Yeah, that's that's literally what is your ten year anniversary or. Not sure listening. I've been listening since twenty eleven. And for that, so that's awesome. Tea. Yeah, But but for me, this is one of those things where now I'm actually looking into branching out into my community, like I'll go to the coin shops. But again, you have to understand when you go into a coin shop, they are if you sell, you are going to get a certain percentage less than where it's sitting at. And just to let you know when they well, when they buy, sorry, and when they sell, it is going to sit at a certain amount markup. So you have to keep in mind necessarily going into a coin shop is not always going to be your best bet. And I hate to say it that way, but there are some great sites online. You do have to do some price shopping, but if you're just looking for one ounce or lower, I mean, take a look at these different sites and compare, and then go into a coin shop and talk talk to someone, but just realize not everybody is going to be in it for your best interest. I like going into a place and saying, hey, I have this dime, what is this worth? And I came in with a silver dime nineteen is it nineteen fifty three? It was really nice condition, really nice shape silver dime, and she goes, oh, it's worth a dollar fifty three, even though Melt was sitting at ninety eight dollars at the time. So you have to keep in mind she wasn't going to buy for what it would be worth at Melt. She was going to buy it for what the value is based on the red book. Right, and without getting too esoteric or deep into it from a financial point of view, they're having some issues in the short term with the junk silver because a lot of times they will actually just melt that down, but the refiners don't want to buy that right now because they have no idea what the price is, and so that's like causing a huge traffic jam in the silver price. That's why these local coin shops as they're known, have to like you'll blame them, they're reacting to upstream, right, But yeah, you know that, right, I mean, you know, just to the audience. People need to realize though, is sometimes you can work out a good deal on partnership with a local place, but sometimes it's best to look. It's best a window shop across the board before you make a move. It's hard to do, but it's the smartest thing to do. It is hard to do, but I'm that person who keeps like five browsers open on my phone when I'm looking at precious metals, and I do that price comparison, and I sit down and I look what marketsit in a and what what we're doing and going from there. But again, for those who want to get into precious metals, yes, ass are the most common and most commonly recognized. But here's the thing. As gold is going to be extremely expensive, so if you're looking at ways to be able to increase your gold or silver without breaking your bank, look into the lower denominations. I even have grain cards, but those are fun. Those are things I give to my kids and they can put up and then that starts them on quarter grain goal, you know what I mean. It's fun. But for people who are looking, you've got half grams, you've got whole grams, and even whole grams. With the way silver costs, you are going to spend around one hundred dollars. And for silver, if you can find an ounce it's silver for one hundred, that's great. But again, if you're looking at saving it for an SHTF moment. The last thing you want to do is be caught in a situation where all you have is one ounce and you're trying to buy two eggs. That's where the lower mounts are going to help you, and they do a crue. For those of you who don't know, fifteen point four grains is one gram? Twenty eight is it? Twenty eight point eight is an ounce, but for a true Troy ounce it's thirty one point one grams. Way too much math. In my head, that was a promise. I didn't even know that to a decimal nice but yes. I even if you even want to be extra. For those of you who do save, I notate so like if I keep my silver in one place, I try to keep an inventory list, just like I do with AMMO or my pantry, because knowing what you have and knowing what it's worth can make a difference, especially in those very lean times. If you have to sell, at least then you know what you can get for it, especially if where melt is it in that because we've all hit hard times and sometimes people have to sell the things they don't want to. But at least then this is your investment for those lean times or for your future, because I don't know if there's going to be a retirement when I hit what is it now? For our generation, I have to be seventy four seventy six now to retire. By the time I actually get to that age, it'll be like eighty six or something. I will be thirty seven this month, if that tells you anything. So for me, my precious metals are an investment into my future as well as if anything happens, there's an inheritance for my children, right, I can leave them something of value. That's what I look at it as something that is generational, and I hope to never sell it. I would rather stuff doesn't hit the fan and I can keep my job and just stack all the silver and I never. Have to sell it. But if I have to, it's there. And now I got a question for you. Security. Don't give your secrets away, obviously, but that is one thing I've been struggling with. I have some good solutions, but. I know a lot of people are worried about if you have I mean just one silver ounce like keeping that could be dangerous in of itself. I'm not gonna lie. I think I've lost a couple ounces in my life. But what you got any tips? Yeah, it goes along the lines of keeping it in plain sight, in in a way, whether it be hidden but hidden in plain sight. Here's the thing though, if you hide it, make sure you've written down where you've hidden it, because at some point, if you're anything like me, I found Christmas gifts that I hid two years. Ago, and the smaller so it is, I actually misplaced an entire half ounce of solver and it took me two weeks before I found it. Oh, but I do, I do have my. So I don't keep all of my eggs in one basket. Right. That's another thing. Is don't you know people tell you to put your money in the freezer? Well, now, if I break in, if I were to break into a house, the first place I'm going to look is the freezer because an older generation typically does that. Your undergarment drawer is a commonplace to put it, so the back of your closet is a commonplace to put it. So you have to keep in mind if you were to break into someone's house, where's the first place you're going to look? Definitely they're bedroom, right. Yeah. Typically, yes, the first place most people keep all of their stuff is their jewelry box, their closet. There's usually some sort of safe for a lock box. I'm not telling you not to have a, say for a lock box, but maybe put it in a different place, somewhere you wouldn't think about, because people don't consider the fact that you have many open spaces throughout your entire house that are not being used that are quite viable for storing your things. I've talked about it on previous shows when I do small space prep in and just to list off spaces, not saying to where to put it, but under your couch, in the extra space in your pots and pan cabinet. You know, there are plenty of places even in your pantry, even though pantries if it's saf you don't want to have it there. But but just keep in mind, you know you have other places in the house that would be more than viable. If you're worried about someone breaking in, always consider maybe having a fireproof lock box, especially if you're worried that the house could potentially burn down. I hey, JP, what's up? JP? I got a couple of chatters today. Great Uh, super sound advice. If you really, really really trust somebody, you could even leave a little bit of a stash at their house. That's something I may or may not do with you know. Essentially, I was like, hey, here's your Christmas gift, and I'm also leaving some of mine here, So you be the custodian. I trust you. You are my parents after all. Oh I've done that with canned goods with Sure Food too. We we would can in bulk and I would keep so much up my house and we would call hers the store. It was a special pantry for our can good so all the access would go there and if I needed something and be like, hey, I'm going to the store. I'm going to grab something. Do you need something? So when I was in that spot where we kept it, I could grab her a few jars out too, So we had a communal space to store it at his secondary address for three different households. That's awesome. Diversification. It's so important for everything included where to hide your preps or whether it's food, water, water filtration, even your bug out locations. The community, your community involved. So for example, I'm expanding my local community into you know, gold and silver, the gold backs especially. That's something that I'm going to be getting into personally, which I will give you more on that once I get a few things finished up on my end. But I have you know, there's some people locally that I'm slowly getting them into the lower denominations of precious metals. And I still, you know, I never tell anyone how much I actually have, but it's nice to know that they're getting involved. Then that, Okay, well, we're building a community. I have this skill set, they have these goods. We having means to be able to share in trade if need be. And I've met an entirely secondary community that I've already spoken to who has cattles and animals and they are fine with making trades. Oo, if you can make that happen, if you can find a farmer or a carpenter or a plumber or something like that and you can exchange gold and silver, you know, that's a great way for everybody. You know, that could work out for everybody. It's good at least have that option, even if you're not doing it right now. Oh absolutely. And then the sideways I did fall into a sideways hole with silver, and that is the collector's pieces, like the colorized. If I have to trade it, yes, it's there for that. But at the same time I am that I think that's that part of my girl side where I'm like, ooh, this is pretty. You can hold on to those. It's like, you know, the ones we are. Okay, I do. That's person When I go to buy silver, I prefer silver in the raw. I know slabbed goes for more right now, but if I usually end up with slabbed silver, which for those of you who don't know, it's been graded, that grade sets it at a higher value just on the fact that it has been graded by a major company. I prefer to have the raw versus the graded. But they're good to have if you're at a point where you're having to sell to collectors, because at least then there you will be able to retain some value within a certain group. Mm hm hmm. With gold, I do. Most of my gold is in a protective case that was valued, whereas the silver I have mostly you know, loose coins or in a sleeve or something like that. Yes, I have I have my gold all on essay too nice. It's I actually had to rearrange my stash because I had I would always bring a little bit with me and instead of it being worth a few hundred bucks before I knew it, I had like one thousand dollars worth of precious metals in my backpack. It has gone up in value so much so I had to take some out. I will say this, the TSA. The TSA wants to see your silver. I brought up like five ounces of silver at one time. They do, and they look at it, try to give you issues because the money value on it. I have a friend who she traveled to visit family. She does auctions, and she brought a bunch of gold and silver with her and she said it was the worst thing trying to get through TSA with all of the gold and silver on her that she got questioned three separate times before she was allowed to board her flight. I've like it would have been easier for her to get on the airline with a gun than it would have. Literally, like one of my friends went hunting and he didn't get that much of a problem. I swear I went on one trip that had four legs, you know, four different flights within there and back, and two of the four I was not I'm not gonna say it interrogated by TSA, but they stopped me, took my back apart, looked at all of them and I had to like count each one, make sure they weren't slight a hand like slipping one. So, uh, gold and silver is I can't fly with it. Tough to fly and at the borders, you know they might try to get you. So just something to keep in mind. Not like I'm going to be trying to leave the US anytime soon, but bringing it in is also hard. We need to push towards the gold backs now because it fits into a wallet. Talk about that. I listened to your h I forgot the name of the gentleman, but I listened to them. Yes, give a quick review of that, and then courage of listeners to actually go listen to the full episode. It's on PBN on Pepper Broadcast. Now give us a high level of that and some updates. Yeah, on rubble and YouTube and maybe X two. Yes, So JP agrees he would never trust TSA around his precious medals. I agree. So what goldback is is it's fractional gold. It is true gold, but made with a polymer that makes it look like a dollar bill. Now, each one goes from half ounce one that's not half ount, sorry, half gold back, a whole goal back, two, five, ten, and so on. So what that means is the higher the denomination, the greater the amount of gold. And the reason why I'm leaning more towards goldbacks and I have my quite a bit is because of the fact that makes it more affordable. It makes it easier to obtain gold that still is gold. So the half gold back is one two thousandths gold, and then one to one thousands, one five hundreds, one two hundreds, and so on and so on, and they go all the way up to one hundred dollars bill. Now, mind you, it is not a half gold back, is you know, fifty cents a half goal back is valued. Hold on, let me pull up my gold back app. I actually have one for my gold back, specifically because there are on goalback dot com. There is a website in which you can look and learn about it, and they even have where it's valued at, where you can buy buy goal backs, or where you can even actually spend gold backs. That's the best part is seeing places locally that do it. But one whole goal back is valued at nine dollars and seventy nine cents. A half goal back is half of that, and then it goes up from there, so your one goal back is roughly worth about ten dollars depending on where the market's at. There for a minute, it was sitting at about twelve to fifteen dollars just for one goal back. So you have money and gold in your hand at all times, So it does it is a good way to also look into an investment plan because of the fact that, regardless it is still gold. Right, I believe it's Dave Jones that has them because I've seen them. I've never purchased them on again, I will have to send you. I will send you. I'll send you one a couple of them. But yes, I'm actually working on actually seeing about becoming a gold back seller through PBN, on the creating a little website to link up, so then making it as affordable for the listeners as possible. I'm not looking to be in it on the profit in so i want to keep it as reasonable as possible for our listeners because that's the whole thing with our network is trying to teach people, trying to show people and then making things as accessible as possible. So it may not be a lot, but if you can start with spending you know, so much money here and there just to get that up, then that's the best thing. I think half goback, actually, Bill, if you're still in here, I think a half goal back is going for roughly because it does sell a few dollars higher than what it's where it's sitting at on market, which is usually how it goes. I think a one goal back, which is valued about nine to ten dollars, is going for anywhere from twelve to fifteen. So you'll see that market, and I want to make those as reasonable as possible for our listeners and even our other host because having some sort of precious metal put away, even if it's a small amount, is more than you'll have if the world stops. And they're beautiful, like the art is really cool, right they are? The DC one sold out quick and they were a limited edition and they were beautiful. Nice's yeah, go ahead, go ahead. Oh sorry, I was going to answer the question in here, Breezy. So they are selling slightly above the price of what they're worth, but you're going to see that with any precious metals So for the example of silver, you're always gonna pay, yes, at all the premium goalbacks, you're gonna spend a little bit higher than where they're sitting at. But then again, when the market changes, even if I spent six to eight dollars for a half goalback and the goal goes back up, then I'm going to be holding one that's well worth that, if not more as time increases. One thing I think is really intriguing about it is finding the shops that will accept it, and then you can support those shops. And even if it's a couple percent extra premium, which Breezy points out as a good point, consider that like a attax that you're paying, you know, to spread liberty of hard money. And to get to meet some of these people. Have you gotten into these shops and met any of these folks? I want to Actually that's happened. I go do some field trips like this. I do need to drive down. I know one of them is a bakery and another one's a dance class, so not either thing that I would probably actually purchase from. But I'm also working out again in the community of people who are willing to actually exchange goldbacks as currency too for us for our goods. So here's the thing, though Breezy says cheap. He pays ten percent ten percent maximum premium matter. Local still dealers for silver usually seven okay, So that's that's something. Why with PBN, I'm trying to do it in a way where I'm not I'm not in it for the profit. I want to make it as reasonable. I probably won't be making much on it at all, if anything. And here's the thing though, for your state, I don't know how it's going to do online, but for your state, most precious medals are not taxable depending on your state where you live. So in North Carolina, if I buy precious metals like gold or silver or sorry classified as investment medals, there's no taxes on it here. Really those I've actually to go look at it right now. It's go look up Virginia, haven't. There's Wyoming. So that each state has one or only some. Seats so far, only certain states so far have them. They are trying to get more states on board. The more people who sign up to want to like the businesses who want to accept them, that's what actually helps a crew that state to be able to then start producing them. For example, you're at finest finest note. Okay, so yes they are great and they are going to be a lower price, but that's like Scott Stalemant. If you look at them, they're sitting even higher. So each site is going to set their own price based on on it. But here's the thing. A lot of these sites require you to hit a one hundred and fifty dollars in shipping or in value to get free shipping. Elsewise, the shippen's what eats you up on purchasing these from those sites. Makes sense, You're gonna still need to buy several one hundred dollars to really make it worth it. You know, you can make them men around or fifty, but you might as well try to get a little more out of the shipping type of thing exactly. But the thing is is, you know, uh, they make a calculator. So there are certain places that like ren fairs and stuff up north that I have friends who live that they actually use the gold back calculators for all of their events because people come in at rin fairs and they're carrying gold backs and precious metals because they'd rather exchange in that than than actual cash. Well, I remember hearing about this more than five years ago, so it's no fly by night thing for sure. They officially started selling their gold backs back in twenty nineteen, and it's really grown from there. Now. I wish I had freaking got it involved, because gold's up three x since then, and I would have some of the first edition gold backs. We saw the half ounds for four dollars and fifty nine cents. That's a killer price right there on the last sight you're on. I think ap Men is usually typically a little higher. Okay, Scottsdalesman is even higher than that. It just you have to really do your window shopping. Gold is threaded in which part is it? The gold is actually in the entire thing. The gold itself is the entire thing and what you have here, So it's made of technically three things. You have a gold gold and a polymer combination that makes the actual thin bill itself, and then the ink stamp that goes on top. Now, the newer ones like the one you're looking at here, actually have some security features in it. So for example, if you'll see that little lattice work right there, if you go up, that is actually a security feature that cannot be duplicated for both the lines in there. Apparently it had to be like hand drawn for the main one and cannot be computer duplicated as well. As they have a black light feature built into the back with the newer so then you cannot for sure you know it is a true goalback because it will only illuminate with a black light. So the older ones from the previous states like South Dakota, I believe, or Montana, they are going to be coming out with newer designs that are also going to have all the new security features in it as well. That's really cool. I got to guess for my collections, if only and those would be some of the last ones I would sell, I think I would almost do this budge. You know. Let's say I bought four hundred dollars worth, I would spend two hundred and keep two hundred because I want to go spend it, support the shops and go meet some people, right, So that'd be so far. Do that though. I would look into each dominant denomination, so for myself, for example, not going to say how many of each or how many of what, but you know I have up to attend denomination they go higher than that, okay, and again it's going to cost you more money. So as you saw, fifty is four hundred and sixty seven dollars and so forth. So it is an investment into those pieces. But I couldn't tell you how many halfs I have or how many single gold backs I have, but they are money still sitting in my safe or my wallet or wherever I have them. In the end, it's real gold. It is good. It's real twenty four kit gold. Actually, if you'll go to the one hundred one right there, oh that's fine. Actually, if you'll click on that one and zoom in or any of them, just zoom in at the bottom. I'd like people to be able to see. And it also tells you the exact amount of gold that is in each piece. So for example, this one one one one thousandths no five, yes, one one thousands troy ounce. And then it go becomes lower and lower. I say lower. The numbers go down because it's a greater amount of gold in that gold back. So this is the lowest one is a one gold back, and it's a one. Which is one two thousands. But if you think about it, for people who've seen gold and silver. You'll see the gold foils and they're very thin and tiny, and they're one one thousands all the way up to one two hundreds or or whatever value. This is the same thing, but it is in an actual physical build that you can carry and trade with you anywhere, well, anywhere that accepts them. So, for example, Matt dial had said, I believe where he's at in Utah or somewhere in that area, their local ace hardware accepts gold backs. Isn't it legal tender in a couple of states like, uh, maybe Arizona? So there are several other states that are trying to pass to have it accepted. Florida uses it in a lot of businesses. Texas has only came out with Dallas, but they are going to be releasing more artwork and more bills. DC only did their one time limited, so that one is more of a collector's item than it is. I mean, you spend it, but you do have your collector's aspects of it. So if you see a three go back, those are limited edition and collectors, but the rest elsewise is active currency. It's legit, very cool. I look at that five. That five is phenomenal no, next one over Florida. All the swashbuckler. God, I like it. And then if you zoom in, it's one five hundred two d I believe, yep. And so then you know right there it says forty seven dollars and it shows you, Uh, they're actually so I'm pretty close to actual value. I think maybe it's a dollar higher with them, but but yeah, so you you are looking at actual money. And regardless of where the money sit in a market sitting at it's an investment. It's uh, it's a retirement and its own not saying you can retire on it, but it gives you the chance of having money put back. So the reason I say go gold and silver is because you're trading money for money, you're not losing it. It's not like buying a bunch of purses or shoes that lose value or the dog could destroy which not saying the dog couldn't destroy this, but you know what I mean. It hits a point where it's going to hold value, if not increasing value. Typically, Hey, I've been so very happy with my purchases. Wish I got more back in the day, but you could always wish you had more and I'm not selling anytime soon though, even if it goes to twice as high as now, I'm holding it. Breezy on something like this, So Breezy ask is there a value in them? As far as selling back to a dealer, though, I imagine it is hard to get the gold out. There are ways to actually get the gold out, but once you destroy it, it's no longer going to be this pretty gold back. What's the purpose to melting it down if it's still going to hold its value even in that form. You can sell back to the dealer, but again it's going to be like selling to anyone else. You probably are not going to get as much. You're gonna probably get maybe right at the value of it versus where you know how much ever you spent on it. I don't know that would be something to ask one of the dealers. I do know though, with all of the dealers through Goldback, if you have a goldback that is torn or crumpled, they have a program in which you can bring that in and it will be replaced with a non damaged one as well, And then what happens is those go back to Goldback and will be reprocessed down and turned into more goldbacks. Okay, that's pretty neat, that's pretty cool. Well, there's layers to it, there's levels to this game. I have a. Lot of just straight silver, nothing fancy that, you know, I have that with the minimum premium. But then I have some fancy stuff, right, cool stuff I put. This is a little bit more in that regard, but it's still pretty practical. And I think, just like. The the supporting hard money, supporting using not using the US dollar, the fiat currency, that's worth a little bit extra premium to me. Yeah, at some point the dollar is going to completely lose its value. We see it happening. It's nice to have something back up. Now. I'm not trying to scare people, but I think you should should have at least announce on hand, just to start with, or you know, the lower denominations that total up to announce whatever it may be. Start low, don't kill yourself. But again, what was it? There was somebody who put out some analytics of what they believed when the dollar crashed, what you should have a certain amount of. I think it was like what was it? It was like ten ounces of silver or five ounces of silver, so much of bitcoin, so much of gold. You know, there was an analytics scientist who put it out of what those were and I sat there and it's like, depending on where you're at, realistically, some of that is a little seems a little hard to get. Like five grams of gold is I think, is what they put down, and it's like it doesn't seem like much, but if you're in a low income that's a little bit of an investment to save up to. Yeah, and it's not fancy. It just kind of sits there. It is beautiful to look at, but it can I don't know, the last ten years before this spike, you're kind of thinking, man, if I had bought some Amazon stock or blah blah blah. But no, we're preppers for a reason. We don't trust that stuff. We know that the dollars days are numbered, and we only trust what we could have in our hands when stuff hits the fan. And that's what physical gold, silver and other preps. Are well and knowing the value of what you have and what you're doing. It also barter and trade. I mean, we're not saying that you only have to havel and solver, but it doesn't hurt to have a little bit put back as a nest egg. Yeah, you don't well, i'd say you don't drive without your seatbelt, but that's you're not supposed to drive without you You take safety precautions wherever you go. You don't run with scissors. It's best to have something put away for those rainy days, even if it's a small amount. I mean, but don't kill yourself on it. That's the biggest thing. I've seen a lot of people overdo it. And then there's silver poor or gun poor or ammo poort, and it doesn't do anyone any favors if you're rich and everything else. But what you need to live. Well, you put it well, you need to let map it out. You need to kind of make a budget. You just stick to it. It's hard, especially if you get greedy or you get scared. That's where where you get in trouble. Well, we as preppers, we budget our groceries, we budget our household. You have to do the same with gold and silver as well. You know it, you know it. I gotta get out of here, Jordan, But oh my gosh, this has been the best hour of silver we've geeked out. It's been a lot of fun. Got to get you back on here, especially as it develops. Can you, I mean pretty much the whole network knows you quite well. But maybe you can put a quick plug for your show and when you're next, Do you have another show scheduled at anytime in the near. Future and stuff like that. I do. I am actually an early morning host on Saturdays, so I'm here on PBN. You'll see me live my face live on x Rumble on YouTube, and my podcast is Phoenix Survival. I am Jayferg also known as Jordan, So anytime you feel free reach out. We are The entire network is on all the social media's, but I am reachable on Proton mel which is Phoenix Dash Survival at Proton dot M and I'm on Instagram as well. If you put in Phoenix Dash Survival as well, you'll be able to find me there. Wow. This is super fun and really glad able to connect this week. We got to do it again real soon. Make it something. Regular, Yes, sir, absolutely, and thank you for letting me pop on. I do appreciate it. Oh, you know, honor is mine. Hey, silver and gold, I'll talk about that all day every day. So hey, I have a good good. Night, and uh, you know, enjoy the rest of this craziness. Uh with with the markets going on, just keep stacking and keep prepping. Absolutely, have a good one, folks. That was another great episode of Patriot Power Hour. Will be live next week Next Thursday is the plan. Future Dan will make his return, But as y'all know, sometimes we have to do emergency broadcast special broadcasts, so we'll reserve the right I eat. If they strike Iran this weekend or something, we might be on a little earlier. Otherwise, we'll be back next Thursday. Y'all have a great one, Catch you later.