Phoenix Survival: Shooting the Breeze w/ the Intrepid Commander

Well, hello ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, this is Jayfer with Phoenix Survival for another great day with you. So wanted to bring none other than our intrepid Commander James himself on. I guess it's not officially really a PBN podcast until we've had our own commander on. All right, So here he is, James. How are you this evening? Oh Jean Gray? Hey, how are you doing? All? You like and be in the Phoenix? I love it. I actually have a lot. I'm still steadily working on getting the socials and or is that how they're saying that the sosis the social media connections all set up reaching out to some of the others rescheduled with Yanna, So it's I missed it. I'm not gonna lie. I've missed all the listeners. I'm I don't know. I'm almost ready to start doing live again, but I don't know if people are gonna be up for being that early, up that early in the morning, like I am. Yeah, we're East coast, there's too and we got fans in the West coast, so that's even earlier. But keep at it and people will come. There's no doubt of that. We do got some early risers though. Yeah, I usually get a pretty good response. I think last week I posted by nine, so I think usually by one or two. Yeah, I'm looking forward to in your back, Jake Berg, you were you were definitely you know, core host here at PBN when it all went down, when the merger happened or whatever. You know. No, I yes, I know it was great. I think it's beautiful. I mean, I I've been in the background the whole time, so it's not like I've been gone, but I'm glad now to be able to dedicate the time and the effort back to it. You're made for it, you know what I mean. You're you're made for speaking and teaching and podcasting and all that stuff. And uh, you know, it always felt like it felt empty, and I felt an emptiness in you because you weren't doing it, you know, because I know how I feel, fad, I know how I feel when I don't do it. You know, it's like, oh, I got to get back. It's one of those weird things, right. Yeah, it's almost like it's not so much as hit and a reset, but a refresh. Definitely. Yeah, that's it's the dirty secret. Dave Jones sometimes lets people know. But it is the dirty secret, particularly for me, which is like I get on often and talk to the audience and make it feel and it is essentially a duty, I mean, for sure, but at the same time, it's also a necessity. It's not like I could I don't think I could not do it now, especially the way things are in the world. It felt so wrong during that, even that break, even though you know, you knew what was going on, and I wasn't really in a place to be able to but I've missed the interaction, you know, me, Gray Volcano, Melenda Lee, you know, all all of our regulars, even you know, just being able to reach out to him. I actually recently reached out to Pappy pay Can only so you know, it's been nice to be able to reconnect again with these people and realize you made a difference or you left an imprint. Oh Pappy man. You want to hear fun story about Pappy? Yeah, he started the whole tool Man Tim thing. Are you kidding me? No way, the whole Yeah. Something about it at Prepper camp. Yep. He just added, I ain't talked to Pappy in a while, and all of a sudden out of nowhere, he just sends me this message, Hey, checked this guy out? Yeah, pay and Pappy is amazing. He's actually been in touch with me even throughout the last couple of years with everything going on, and it's been nice to know that we have in proper broadcast network in PBM, we've created a kinship and a fan friendship and a family that we wouldn't have gotten anywhere else. Oh yeah, hey, Tim just fit right in too, didn't he o perfectly? I mean he showed up the Prepper camp like he knew everybody there and has been on the network for five years. Oh there you are perfectly. I'm out here searching for a chicken. I gotta I got them now, I got the I got these wild, despicable chickens. You would be so, you would be so ashamed, because I believe, I know, but I got these chickens that don't go into coop at night, and they're living in the trees and stuff at night, and it works. I mean, they don't get eaten, but you know, sometimes you hear them flapping around, they lose their spot in the tree. You think they're getting eaten. You bought these we bought these new chickens in spring because my my son just out of nowhere, my oldest son was like, let's get chicks this year. And I was like, all right, we can get more. I'm good with that. I didn't think. When your son says, let's get do whatever the hell you know? So yeah, now they do. They they're they're like wild. I mean, you know, here's the here's the punchline. Though. They lay in the coop, so they figured out, Yeah, they figured out we can lay our eggs in this thing. But but I don't know about sleeping in it at night. So you'll actually probably how old are they. Uh this spring? So okay we got them in. They're still really young. And you'll actually find out when some of them start to brood, they'll stay in that coop a lot longer. Yeah. That's what I'm curious to see is what is going to be the time frame for one of those chickens to actually turn brudy, because I remember I actually had a hand go brudy really much much earlier than you typically saw on a chicken. Yeah, we had a we had about of broodiness this year this summer. It was it hit them all oh no, no, no, not like that. Like I'm talking and we don't want to leave. I don't have any roosters, but I'm talking when they don't want to leave the coop and they when you open the coop, they they look good, they like porcupine ya. When they put their feathers out and they won't eat or drink, they like will go totally insane and you have to physically move them out of the coop. You know, you got to physically feed them and water them and be like stop it. Some of them had the lock out of the coop, you know, for a while, because they just would they'd sit on those eggs until they died. Wow. Yeah, that's wild and that. Hen you just now need. Yeah, oh yeah, she she did well. The three the no, it was three of the four older chickens that we have, the old the oldest ones. They went through all three of them. Yeah. The I love these uh what are they called australorps man, these black Austrolorp chickens. There's something they They're my favorite to date. They really are. They They're huge. They they take no ship from predators, you know, I've seen them. Oh yeah, they're great. I mean they're you know, they're every pretty much every day. You know when I had when I had five six of those, I didn't I couldn't eat all the eggs. I was giving them out to neighbors and stuff. But you know, there's attricious attrition with them chickens. You know how it goes. Yeah, well, I mean it's out here. They do great. I mean being at the rodent population, they'd be feeding on all the lizards. Oh yeah, oh god, they must love that. Yeah, and Nolly's are everywhere. You know, the chickens would tear their little asses up. I bet. Yeah. Well, I mean we don't have any here's something I miss having. We do have neighbors down the road that actually do have some chickens, and we have some muscovie duck all over the place. So I mean there's there's protein sources. I don't know how safe they are since they're all protected here, but uh, it's our ours thing has been our jalapeno plant has just started to really put out peppers that we transplanted it into a pot and it's taken well that we're looking at bringing it in along with a few other plants so we can still have some sort of vegetable produce in the house during the winter. Oh my, got to have me some jalapenos. Man, that's a necessity. Well, I pickle them, I cook with them, you know we spicy food is life. I'll tell you something that you should do. This is a condiment that when I worked in Center City, Philadelphia, we used to what we used to put this car I can't remember. Let me think on that while I tell you about it. You take red onion, m hm, make a sweet pickle, you know what I mean? Maybe with like equal parts salt and sugar, right, and then you know vinegar. I don't know how much. You know, four cups, so why whatever you need to do to fill just make sure your salt and sugar is pretty equal, or maybe even more sugar than salt a little bit. You want it to be sweet essential, And then slice jalapenos real thin and sliced red onions real thin, and man that it is like the calipinos and onions get like almost candy, like nice and sweet, but they're still spicy. You could put it on everything that sounds good. It almost sounds like a modified version of like pickle is that we do it with cucumbers, onion, a little bit of vinegar, water, sugar and salt and pepper. Oh, like cucumber salad. Yes, thank you. My brain stopped for a second. Yeah, it's like it's like that was sept with jalapenos and onions and it's man, it's good. That sounds good. I have to try that. If you guys do, do you guys eat pork? It's really good on pork, you know, like the rich, fatty cuts of pork, like a picnic it do or something like that. My favorite throw piece of meat in which I'm not gonna say we don't spoil ourselves on we do, is a good pecanya, a coolette. The coolette, I should know what that is. It's if you look it up, it's it's got a nice fat cap on it. And usually I go to like the Brazilian meat market and they have it in slabs, and so I'll have them cut them into at least four inch thick pieces and I'll actually raise and see her on each side and do a red wine reduction and use the grease and dripping potatoes. In what is it called ak what. Pecana or a coolette pecana. Mm hmm, I see, let's have a look. Yeah, we're gonna hey, it's now gonna be food talk. I love food. So oh it's almost like, uh, look it's a soloin is what it is. Yes, it's and it's got the nice thick fat cap and you want to go when at least at least two inch almost almost like an inch and a half to two inches of fat cap and that's perfect for roasting. Oh boy, yeah, that looks delicious. That's one of my favorite ones. Score the top. Yeah, oh, I don't score it. So I will take my cast iron avocado oil, sear it and don't move it while it's here, because you know that takes away from it to let it sit there and see her sear it. Each side fat side down or meat sight down. So I do. I sear all of it. So actually what I start is with meat sites first. Then I sear the fat side and in the oven with fat side down while I cook it. Oh yeah, you know what you can do. I'll tell you something sweet to do with the meat cut of meat like that. You can cook it on the rack once you see it fat side down like you do on the rack. Then put a pan underneath with small cut potatoes, and that fat drip from the fat cap down into the potato. You know, pan and then potatoes. You know, you gotta shake them around every once in a while. I season them up however you like, but that fat will drip down in the pan. I've done something similar to that, except not on the rack. And you could do it with your chickens. Whenever you decide which one is going to be up next. Oh, I will take a nice hen and I will stuff it with lemon and thyme. Oh yeah, rubbed the whole thing down in butter with more lemon and thyme, I mean, and rosemary. Can ever go wrong with rosemary? With chicken? Well, I stacked that on top of fintel onion, potatoes, root vegetables, the juices from the inside, and the lemon juice drops down and cooks it. You don't even have to turn the vegetables. And you have it sitting on top of that vegetables, and it's a good several inches off and it will cook down and roast the vegetables while keep cooking it uncovered, so it creates a nice dark skin on it too while you bake it. Man see that's roast chicken every Sunday. But that's that. You know what's funny is we were talking about food, but today that was a real That has been one of our big focuses over the last few days, and I've noticed even an element. We've been talking about food and food storage, and we even looked at getting a list together to it's going to be a two and a half hour drive for me to the next the closest LDS store, or we could pay shipping talking right, and I you know, I've bought from LDS before, an LDS food store before and out towards Memphis and great stuff. And I was looking at the prices and at first but they were high, and I was like, well, actually, right now, they are higher than what they've been even for the LDS members. But it's still really reasonable to pay for six number two ten cans for forty eight bucks of flour or whatever it may be. Then what you're going to pay and I mean it's already it's already in a number ten can. It's a thirty year she self save food. Oh yeah, So I mean right there. You're saving yourself money in the long run because I can buy flour and goods all day long, but I can't preserve it at the same amount of time as what I can buy there. So I've saved myself somebody in that aspect of preservation. What we ran in today's I eat dear chili. Oh yeah, no, it's it's good food. The only thing I'm not big on is the apple slice is you you actually have to rehydrate them to make them more palatable. And one of my friends told me to stay away from the it's like ravioli or spaghetti bites. It's like basically like like ravioli in a canned but yes, and she said it's terrible. I mean, chef Boyard in itself was usually pretty rough. Right, But if you're hungry, you're hungry. Oh yeah, it'd be the best thing in the world. I store a little emergency essentials. What the hell is it mushroom Alfredo or something like that, And I did it. I started buying it because I was reviewing it once for an article and I tasted it and I was like, you know what, this ain't no mushroom Alfredo. It's not on fetucini. It's on like some kind of weird ass noodle. I don't even know what it is. And then I started thinking, but you know what, man, if you hadn't had access to good pasta in a while, or if you want some rich oh man, you'd want to eat that. So I started storing it up. Well, I mean that's like so tonight I made dear chili. Oh. I realized we were short on some of the stuff that I normally use, and we're limited on how much. You know, we were fortunate enough that one of his clients from the pools he cleans gave us some deer meat. Now it was only six pounds, but six pounds is you know, substantial for someone who doesn't have access to it. Yeah, So, you know, trying to extend what we have. I, you know, one pound, which we know how I eat. I eat one pound a deer with one pound of deer sausage. So we combined that. And then I didn't have as much beans as I would have liked. So that's where you start extending. Okay, I had two cans of chili beans. I had two cans of dark kidney beans. All right, the both those went in there. How I cut terms, and like I said, is running down is this is where I have been mentioned in before is keeping our inventory. Well we you know, when I was talking to him, I was like, okay, this weekend we are in between the pantry. He's like, okay, done, So we will actually sit down inventory, will probably re vacuum sell our pastas because we have the pastas in the boxes and those are not air. Tis right, I've kept box pasta for quite some time. I mean I had to go pretty well. Is we stay very clean, But the problem is is with where we're located, you will still occasionally get a roach or two coming in the house and I will lose my lose my shit if I find a bug in my pantry. And it was why no, I just saying I had a rogue. I did a whole podcast on it, and then I did a whole members piece of pest control content over it. But we bought a bunch of these napkins from I think it was Sam's club for birthday party, you know, I think it was my oldest son's probably in August, and I brought them things in. Man if something just caught my eye and it was a German cockroach in those napkins, and I just I went into pest control mode. Right, I haven't found anything else. It was literally one off, which is so I mean, first of all, it's so lucky. And second of all, German roaches are not when you want to get in your house. If you get one, there's usually more. Usually, Oh yeah, I thought we were. They infest so bad you have to just get rid of everything. I thought we were finished, j ferg I mean for a week. I immediately went out and got those little I don't usually keep them on hand, but I wanted to see, so I went and got those roach motels. I keep a lot of that pest control bait and stuff, Rodenti's sides and all that kind of stuff on hand, but I don't keep those sticky traps. And I w went out and got those just to see, you know, I wanted to see, all, right, where are we at on activity? Because we gotta have roaches, if you know, if I saw one in the middle of the day in a big pack of napkins and never not never a one see And I have. A few that were given to me, the little sticky they smell like a nutterbug. Something yeah like yeah, but yeah, they're I mean, they're not good for doing anything worthwhile to stop pests. But they're they're great for getting a feel for what the hell's going on in your house, you know what I mean. And our house is regularly sprayed, I think once every three months. But you want to see me act like an absolute girl, let me see a roach in the house. I'm not kidding. You would have died. Laugh. And there was one a water bug, which to me, it's still a roach over by the sink in the kitchen, and I took off running to the front door. I understand. I used to be when I was a kid, we had water bugs in the summertime. And oh, I don't know why, Jay ferg I was just terrified of them. And to me, I guess, to me, it's like they're unclean. When you grow up poor and you see things certain way, you don't want to live that way. So it's it's I take pride in my cleanliness, even if I may not be the neatest person in the world, I take pride in being clean. And yeah, to me, insects are unclean, and so that's why. And the only other bug, oh sorry, I get grossed out of this isn't our house is full of freaking earwigs and I don't know, we're coming in from bug. There was pincher bugs. That's yeah, they were because there for the longest time, back in the nineties when you and I were kids, that was the one I always heard the news about and people getting earwigs stuck in their ears, and they were just all get up. It's crazy that that stuff, what you just said, because when you were a kid, I was a kid pretty much. We were just in different. Schools, what two years above me? Maybe I thought I was more than that, like four or something. I'm thirty six. I'm thirty three, so you're three. Okay, three years So we were in the same school. Then you were in middle school when I was in middle school. But we were so far away, no social media, no internet really for most of our life. But those weird things still traveled the nation. How was that possible? You know what I mean? Like those urban myths, those all that kind of stuff still traveled the nation somehow. You know what it is to me? Why it stung so true? Poverty? What was it? Poverty? I mean, think about it. Those stories stuck with because people didn't think about it. Who the people who reported it were people who slept on beds and had nice houses or had you know what I mean, It wasn't something they thought about. But I think it became more of a psa to the more poverty stricken families because of those instances, because I mean realistically, I slept on the floor with six other cousins and a two bedroom trailer with two siblings, Like we all slept on couches and floors all in one room, and it was hot because we only had one oscillating fan. And so I think that's why it's stuck with me. Is growing up that poor is it was a realistic, like an actual situation that could happen from sleeping on the ground. Hey, but you had good odds. Like seven. But but you see what I'm saying, Like that is when you you grow up poor in a situation like that, because it's the only way you know of living, you don't think about the hazards or the risk of what's around you. Yeah, it's a good point. I mean, in a sense, even in poverty stricken levels, we become blind to things we are around daily because we're too accustomed to it. I mean, we talk about first world problems because you know what, we we don't have the same problems as a second and third world country, oh, the poverty problems. We don't think about the same problem as someone else would think of because it's an everyday thing for us. It's so weird. Like I can't even imagine what growing up differently would be. You know, it's hard to imagine how much differently you look at the world when you grow up and you just have everything already, you know what I mean. Like you want something, you tell your parents they get it for you. You know what I mean. No, no, no, I. Think that's what got me is where as myself as a prepper, as myself, how I grew up, you know, I saw people who got to have whatever they wanted. You know, they wanted a nice prom dress, Mom and dad just went out and bought it. I had to work so many hours at my taco bell job and save up to pay for my prom dresses, you know what I mean. I paid for my own graduation gear. Yeah. So I didn't have the same opportunities afford it to me as a normal you know, nuclear family. Oh yeah, yeah, And it's hard when you aren't poor and you're raising kids that are living a totally different life than you, and when they're little, they get sort of accustomed to I'm having these issues with my kids now where no. I mean, we want our children to have what we didn't, so we tend to over luxurize their lives and then we realize we're not doing them any good by spoiling it. Yeah, and it's hard to well because there comes a certain time where you got to start treating them poor so they don't become spoiled, you know what I mean, right, because they be to being you know seven. You know, my oldest son's eleven. My oldest son's eleven, but he's at a job almost ever in the in the neighborhood. But yeah, a lot of times I do that stuff to him and I never used to do it to him, but he, you know, he gets it. But it's tough. It's tough when you know you got the money, but they got the money too because they've been working, and you say, no, you know what, you get that or you want that save up and get that because they look because it's not like they look at you like I would look at my parents, you know what I mean, like I would be afraid to ask for certain things for my parents because I'd be like, man, there's there's no way, you know what I mean, it's just not even in the realm of possibilities. But when your kids and they say, you know, I want this thing, and they look at you and go, dude, I know you have enough money to get it for me, and you have to say, well, save up and get it, buddy, you know what I mean. But you got to do it. You know, you have to do it or they don't learn anything. Well, that's like, my thirteen year old has a savings and he's been mowing yard since he was probably seven or eight. He sa saves up money to the point that, you know, you don't want to abide by my roles with my phone then buy your own, and so he's trying to save up for his own, which is fine, but that's the whole That's like, you know, every year since my kids were little, I gave them a responsibility that was based on their age and their level of completion. You know, if I'm not going to put a five year old to do in the same task my thirteen year old does, but they all learn those same tasks just at their own level. Every year a new one. And you know, the one thing I took away from my childhood for my children was not to tell them we were poor. Now, my mother never talked about being poor in front of us ever. But I knew we were, you know, at a very young age. I knew when neighbors were bringing us Christmas, When when neighbors were bringing us box of food. You know, yeah, as soon as you start mingling with other kids, you start I was. Five when I knew we weren't. We weren't doing well. Okay, I mean I was young. At five, I knew Santa wasn't real. I mean, and that's not be talking about me, right, yeah, I mean. I lost same magic at five. Yeah no, I know, yeah you had a hard show. But I had you grow up fast for my age, and I think that's what takes a big difference. I mean, not all of us had the luxury of it getting to be children. Yeah no, I know, I know. But when I met you, and when I that's why everybody at PBNs, before you were a host and before they knew you, you know, through doing so many podcasts, was like, I can't believe Jay Fergus twenty eight years old doesn't even make sense, you know what I mean, Because I'm sure you were like that your whole life. I'm sure when you were sixteen, people were like, oh, she must be like twenty five, you know what I mean, something like that. Yes, I looked like a twelve year old. But yes. The only downside now is I can't when bill collectors call, I can't say, you know, when they asked me to put my mom or dad on the phone, And I can't pretend to be like, oh, mommy's not home right now. But it just goes to show like I wanted my children to be children. But at the same time, sometimes I feel like I may have over indulged my children in certain aspects because you see a level of selfishness that you hope they grow out of. And at some point you've got to understand there's nothing you can do. Oh yeah, it's really being both parents on board. I mean, also do great with your boys. It's also their people, right, no matter what you do, Yeah, no matter what. You can give them all kinds of tools and tricks and stuff, but you know they're going to be who they are. My kids are so different, it's unbelievable. They couldn't. I don't know if they could be more different, And we didn't raise them any different. The only the only difference is my oldest son was raised some to some degree by his grandmom, my mother in law, while I was working and my wife was work, you know what I mean, So he spent time with her during the day. Jake never really did that. But outside of that, man, they grew up in the same house the same way, you know, and they're they're almost opposite, you know, on a lot of things. And you know, it's it's not even like they're like us, it's just you're just them. Well there's also something else I had heard. You are not the same parent you were when you had your first boy. Well that's the same parent you were when. You had your second, Sholf. You're not the same parent you were today. I mean, we all, everything we do is in a different walk of life. It's just how we want to form that. I mean. I think for us, we're a little more self aware and even in our community, of what we want for ourself, what we want for our children. You know, I was very adamant on making sure my children learned how to sew with the sewing machine. I probably should have started them with hands sewing. But at the same time, I want my kids to have life skills, even if it's just basic life skills that most people our age don't even know how to do. I mean, it's sad is I know a twenty nine year old whose mom still does his laundry. He gets home every weekend and she does and folds his laundry and loads it into his car. I don't know if he's capable of folding his own laundry or even doing it. Yeah, you can't just imagine the problems. You know, the laundry is the thing you talk about, But just imagine the problems that that dude has. You know, he's got to be hell to deal with. Right, I'm curious of how you're going to have a committed relationship without having your mother included. Every Babe, I gotta run to Mom's getting my clothes done, be back. You don't fold my shirts like mom does? Yeah, mom does it better. Sorry, I like her fabric song. Shit, I'm sure happens. I'm positive it does. But that's that's what we're seeing, you know, And this is where I'm going to like push it into some of the stuff that's going on currently. Is we look at the things that are going on around us and what is it. Yes, we change, but not to the degree that we see everybody else around us. If we change, I would like to say that we change for the better. Yes, we go through times where we digress, or we pull back, or you know, whatever you want to call it. However you want to say, back pedaling in your own way, or taken a moment of pure selfishness and then realizing, you know, that wasn't very bright. But at least we have the ability to self reflect, adjust, and change. Yeah, I mean even in our prep and abilities. You don't prep the first the same way you did when you first started, because you've learned better ways you've grown as a as a parent, as a husband, as a teacher, as a student, Like you've learned along the way as a prepper what you should and shouldn't do, even in the everyday workings of your own life. For sure, Yeah, without a doubt. Yeah, it's yeah, it's like that old uh, that old saying about you know, no man steps into the same river the same He never steps into the same river the same man or or the same river or something. I don't know, I've butchered it. But it's a long wa what you meant. And I'm like, I remember this quote, but I don't know it off the top of my head. But yes, you're right. He never steps into the same water or or into it as the same. Yeah, steps into the same water twice or something like that. It's something like that, but it also reflects it's it's just an example of the water is always different and the man is always different. Right now, it's. Always changing, whereas changing as the river itself. Well, I could tell you. One of the biggest changes was from a parent standpoint, was when I first had my first son. It's like, I'm gonna make sure that no trials or tribulations ever befall this little angel, you know. And now as a parent, it's like, God, bring on the you know, bring on the things that make them men, because all the pain and the suffering of life is what has made me who I am, you know what I mean. So they have to go through. It, and I get that. My whole thing is is I wanted my children to be self sufficient and independent, but not at the same level I. Had to be Yeah, because that was ten. I was ten, raising an eight year old in a newborn alone. My mother worked doubles or overnights, you know what I mean. I was sixteen, taking my fourteen year old sister too and from school, and my five year old little sister too and from gymnastics in school, and with one vehicle, running home on lunch to take my mother to work, to drive back to school to be late to then turn around that midnight, picked my mother up from mark or at three in the morning, just to turn around and do it again. Yeah, you know that's not something I want it for my children, But you're right. There are times that I'm like, okay for my son, especially with him going through the changes and being so selfish, and you know, not that I wish ill and you know that, I just say, you're right. He needs some strife. He needs to understand that the world owes him nothing and he owes the world everything. And I hate to say it in that sense, but at the same time, we are always going to have to be on our feet, We are always going to have to be fighting for something. Unfortunately, my life is absolute proof of that. Is I was talking to Chris and I was like, you know, I would like just a moment, a moment to catch my breath. I'm like, I would like things to just stop for a second. And then it hit me, It's like it's not ever gonna stop. I either have to make the time or make my way around it. That's it the heart, the relentless life. It builds confidence that you can't get anywhere else, do you know what I mean? When you have to, you just start like when you have to and you have to and you have to every day you find out that, oh I can, I can do this. Yeah. I have my days like that too, you know what I mean, where it's like, oh, I you know, not long ago, Jay ferg I had to lay in bed. I just lay it in bed, and I said, you know what, I'm gonna lay in bed and just wake up slowly like I never do that. I'm up out of the bed, boom downstairs, dogs out, dogs fed, you know, five in the morning. You know, I mean, if I'm not up before five in the morning, the dogs have me up at five in the morning, like they just that's their time they wake up. Time to get up, boom down, And I just remember the other day being like, man, how many years decades has it been since you just woke up in bed and laid there? Maybe like turn the TV on, Like turn the TV on and watch a show in bed or something. It's I have a hard time with TV. Oh no, what I do in the morning. I wake up at around six six thirty, depending on his alarm, he leaves about seven ish. I will lay there in the bed. That's the only time I take for myself, lay there in the bed, and usually by then I'm already going through element and signal to see what's going on in the grind. Yeah, yeah, I take that. Until about seven, seven forty five maybe eight. That's the only time I take for myself in the mornings. I'm up, and then the. Rest of the time i'm crochet. Ain't even while i'm working or I'm working on imbordery. I'm doing something as long as I'm not typing, if I as long as in between those moments where I have a second, I'll make sure I'm doing something. It's important. Though. I went too long without being like, WHOA, what exactly are you doing here? Dude? You know what I mean, Like without slowing down, without taking any days off. You know, I I so rarely take days off because I because of the writing. You know what I mean. The writing business is just you know, either you get up and write or the writing doesn't get done. No, I get it, and we'll see. That's like for me, I'm working on trying to get my website up. You know, I still got a few more kinks I'm working on, and then you know, paying for it and going live while doing my side hustles, you know, making making all a few bucks where it counts. It's NonStop. I mean between that, I you know, I'm trying to make something out of out of what I enjoy and what I love. And even to the point, there is a on Facebook even it's called Keeping the Old Ways, and I was speaking to one of the individuals who I guess runs it, and they asked me if I would like to teach March thirty first in April first in Alabama. I actually saw it from Bobby from Pure. Fire Tactical Nice. So, yeah, your class is valuable, man, and I love it, and that's why mysite's. Going to be. Yeah, PBN listeners, man, I say this all the time when I'm talking about membership. Either one of your guys classes that I recorded a Prepper Camp and then put up. They're worth the cost of admission as far as I'm concerned, you know, to see Dave, to see Dave Jones's tactical movement class, that's well worth the cost of membership for the year. To see your fiber class as well, it's just well, it's well worth it. I mean, I would, I'd highly recommend it, you know, it's it's so good and you're you're so I mean, if you saw I watched your class, and one of the things that I thought about while I was watching your class was this is her second year. You could argue it's her first year, because her first year she was I don't even know if you knew you were at Prepper Camp. You had so much going on, you know what I mean, It was such a crazy you just came flying in. Oh it is your third year, it's your third year teaching. Third year. Yeah, this is my fourth year at camp. Oh well that's why you were so good then, Okay, why was I thinking it was your just your second year. Teaching because last year I literally came in like a bullet and. Left like one Oh okay, yeah, I didn't remember you teaching two years ago, but I mean you're on the nottch with it anyway. Well, I mean Saturday Fridays. Which one did you come by? I had so much going on, I don't remember ever actually seeing you. I came to day two. Day two, okay, Saturday, I was. There in the back. I came after. It was like, I don't know, a minute and a half, two minutes into you rocking and rolling and I sat way out in the back, set the tripod up, film the whole thing. I'll give it to you if you want. I'd love it. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm you know what. I enjoy it. Though I love fiber, I love teaching it. I can tell. It's like I had so many people come to my class in Ohio. You know. I had told her I wasn't sure if we were going to be able to make it this year, but I was, don't Christ. You know, I may still do it. I it may still do it because I enjoy it. I enjoy being able to make things. But that's another thing, is that's where I'm also trying to get my supplies up because I plan on for Prepper Camp next year. Actually having sow and mittens and normal hats that I'm also going to offer spun stuff like spun hats and spin sox. So I'm working on trying to get a lot more fiber spun right now, and I may have to reach out to a few handspinners and purchase directly from them just so I can make so I have enough time to make what I'm wanting to make for my inventory versus taking more time from one area for another. Yeah, there's something also about your voice, your voice and the implements of fiber, weave, fiber whatever, what's the what's it called, like the whole problem? Yeah, you mean like process, Yeah, the tools and your voice and your presentation of like the nitty Naddy. Like when you say the nitty Naddy, it sounds like you're the person who made the nitty Noddy. I wish I was the person who made the nitty that's smart. And there's another one. What's the other one with the weird name? Oh lord, you probably don't think these things are carters. I have carters. The nitty nanny. What were the things that you scraped the fur back and forth on? Oh no, that's not what they were. Another funny, but I had shown that you can use dog slickers like that. I don't know. Like I said, I get the same vibe from you, and unfortunately I didn't get to hear Ryan. But I get the same vibe from you that I get from Dave Jones. When you watch Dave Jones, it's like, this is where this guy's supposed to be, you know what I mean, Like this is this is the pinnacle of this guy what he should be doing. I mean, I think you guys should be doing this to much greater audiences than Prepper Camp, you know, like I'm talking national right, Well, I love it. Bill Bobby also wanted me to reach out to Homesteaders of America and so and look at teaching at that since I didn't get to this year and they were showed out. So I'm actually putting in an application to see about teaching there as well. Well, you could be a gateway drug, jayferg That's the thing about you. You know, you can get a class full of ladies who you know, legitimately want to learn how to utilize fibers and use fibers and make you know, and do all the things knitting and crochet, and then you can be like, well, you know I also am a prepper. All right, Well you know, actually that's I do. I don't I do tell people like out here, I got asked to do a spinning class. Unfortunately I have to supply the spinning wheels and splending wheels are a hefty financial investment. They're great in the long run, but the initial investment is as a load. I got lucky split in work and cash for the will. I have most wills you're not going to find for under three fifty four hundred at the lower yes, and that's even for the older models. But what I do is I always tell people I'm a prepper. I have no problem with that. And the funny thing about my classes is I say utilizing fiber right, and you go through it. You've been through my class, you see that I cover a broad spectrum and a short amount of time. The funny thing is is I could actually take an hour for each individual segment, and I still would not have enough time to fully give the full detail on it, on how to share, on how to collect, on how to process, how to handle letting people have hand on Because I was asked, do you want to offer kids in class. I'm not against it. The only downside from me on doing in a large group like that is I feel like it takes away from each person who wants to do it. And that's why I want it to do the online is because I can give you a general class and then I could always set up to do a zoom and then you get that one on one ask questions, I'll answer you know what I mean, like that back and forth that you get on that one and one when you come to my booth. You know, the last thing you want is to take away from For me is I don't want to take away from someone's ability to learn something that they could use to provide for their own family. I'll tell you I wouldn't mess with your class at all, and I'll tell you why because the when I left your class, the thing that I felt like was if I wanted to do this, I could do it like I could make something. I mean, that's what I because you you hit every step and like you said, you can talk about them for an hour, but you probably lose people. You hit every step just enough to where it's like does the crowd get it? They get it, Let's move on and then all the time saying yeah, all the steps together, and you come at least I did. I come away from your class. When I left your class, I was like, man, I could probably if I had that stuff and I and I, you know, had all the tools that you have. I felt like I could do that. And before that class, I looked at a T shirt and would be like, I don't have any idea how to make anything in Jay Fergie's booth, There's no way I could figure out. And I can't crochet, so I'd have to learn that too. But you know what I mean, you couple from your class feeling like this is a skill set that if you worked on you could pull it off. You could make clothes. And that's crazy. And I show even the most easiest aspect of it, of weaving, even with just cardboard, you know, use it making yourself a cardboard trame. Oh yeah, that's a great call. But you know what's funny is I have had a gentleman who's been at Propper Camp every year the last three four years. I think he's been there even longer than that, who will come to my class towards the end of the year or end of the camp session when he needs to fill our class. And I've had other people from other you know, from Ohio or even from a couple of years ago come and take my class again. And I both a man and a woman this year come up to me and tell me you did not disappoint. Your class is just as good now as it was the very first time I saw. And it is even better. Oh, she goes, and she goes. I thought I got so much from it the first time. She goes, you have not changed, and it is. She said it in a way. You know you are not changing in the sense that I kept the core. Yeah, and I don't think there's been much of a change. I thought it need to be my confidence. Yeah, when you climb up on the tables, that's great. I don't know when that idea when. They don't, when they don't give me a podium to stand on. You know, I ran into that even at Ohio. There I can't sit there at a will and make people stand up and lean over each other. There's too many people for that. No, I know, it's just. Easier just to jump up on the table. And you know what, it It loosens the vibes. People get more. Oh, for sure. They see it's not something outrageous that anyone can do it, like the number of men who do it now, it's. A lot of dudes there. You're right. When I was there, there was a lot of guys there, and not just guys with girls, No, yeah, just guys not like my wife want to go, so I'll do it. You know what's funny is the very first year I taught, there was a young boy or a young man now and his father and uncle, and it was a whole group of guys and they had taken my class and the young man actually was spinning and he did great, and they said it was interesting because they actually worked in testile textile. They made thread. They worked for the thread company what is it, Threads and Law or something like that, that actually makes the sewing thread. Sure, yeah, And they said that they got so much out of it being that they worked in thread, and they learned even more than what they thought they already knew in the mechanized modern system. Then the skill in old school system that I have. Yeah, Well, you know, like I said, it's it's not easy to come up with the class us. You's got good time and good content and you leave with you know that feeling like this is something I didn't think I could do walking in and now I'm walking down and I feel like I could do it right well. And I always suggest when people get into it, don't don't break your back spending a bunch of money on something when you can do it at a low end. There's no point in putting out all of that money and then kicking yourself in the ass and not picking it up ever again. At least whether a pair of slickers or you know, a little bit of fiber, you can play with it and figure out is this a skill set that you want to work on or is this a skill set someone else wants to work on. Yeah, I mean it's kind of kind of like you listened to my last one where I talked about skill sets and their values. I mean, podcast, you have an amazing value just in your cooking skills and your your reliance and feeding your family in its own It helps, It does, but it's you know, we've talked about it before in groups. Not one person can do everything by themselves. Yeah, no way, Yeah, you got to have people, man, you know, I get. So, when are we buying that property in Texas. Yeah, I know, I know there's a it's still available. To dude, I I'm we actually talked about it. If other people in our group were in for it, totally, would definitely pull out a share. And say let's do it if the time comes. We have so many people now. But there's also something there's also something brewing with Tim I was talking about. I don't want to spill all his beatings on radio, but yeah, there may be an opportunity there that's a little closer to home. Right, and it's Tennessee, you know what I mean. Well, that's actually where I've been looking at buying. Yeah, I know everybody says I should move to Tennessee, that I talked to get out of Virginia moved to Tennessee. But you know, I saw some beautiful houses in Virginia. I just can't bring myself to pull the trigger. I'd have to go all the way in, Jake Fergie, if I if I go out, then I've got to go all the way in. Right, And I think that's for me is if I pulled the trigger, where I'm going is where I'm staying. Yeah, well not just that, but like I don't know, I might go amish, you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm going deep. It's funny that you say that, because I found a property that was off grid, beautiful off grid. Yeah, like I don't intend on leave grid. I don't leaving, but it. Was one of those where it was just on the cups cusp of being what I need off grid, or just shy of actually sustainability, if you know what I mean. Oh yeah, definitely. And then you know, there was another one I found back home in Arkansas, beautiful twenty five acres, did not have the woodburn and stove in the house, but it did have it in the shop and a giant shop. Love my woodwork, and love my metal work, and love my mechanics. And then it's got snatched up so quick, and I'm like, you know what, things are going to start working out. We're already seeing a dropping things around us. I mean food with the house. Yeah, they're they're coming down hard. I mean I go to a few poker games where the relatives are talking about how it's starting to it's starting to go down, and and one guy was saying, it's it's going to hit hard a little too fast. Oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean, but at the same time, my money value in buying a house is going to be even lower too. But that's that's what we're not thinking about. Yes, it will make houses more reasonable to buy, but are you going to have the value to pay for it? Yeah, that's a good point. I don't know. I'd have to do it with a group, you know. That's how I feel. You know, I have too much here with the neighbors and the people that I these relationships that I've developed in my neighborhood and what we've developed here. It's too valuable for me to say I'm going to move out in the country and be alone, right. You know, I think that is something if say tomorrow, the whole PBN cast said, you know what we're in, I jump right now and make sure my loan officer got me that letter so we can say, all right, let's do it where we go? If we did an eighteen person village somewhere, Oh yeah, yeah, I'd be all the way in, you know, I'd be all. The way It's funny is that's a dream for us as a community. But you know that scares so many other people around us because it's not controllable and. Why no, I don't know. I mean, you know, we're city people, you know what I mean, We're not country people like we do we all these country prepping things, and we are definitely highly adaptable and have highly adapted to this the stuff that we do at our house now. But I mean, you know, we're I was born outside of Philadelphia, Pa. Mike the county I grew up and had five hundred thousand people in it, you know what I mean. She grew up in Richmond City, which is not you know, your average city, but it's still it's still convenience, and you know, I want to I want to go take a ride over here. I want to go over here. I'm going to go do this today. You know. You get out there in the middle of Texas on twenty whatever it is, sixty five acres whatever that property is, and it's like, this is it, you know what I mean, this is where we're at. We ain't driving a Walmart just to look around. So that's a change. It's like growing up in a town that had a population and like a little over what twelve k and then now I'm here in Myrtle Beach. And don't get me wrong, like I can do the city life, like we'll go out and do the tourist stuff and blend in and but it's too much for me. Honest to God, it is way too much for me. Like I miss. Having I miss having and you know, three acres to live on. I miss having four hundred acres to roam about and hunt and fish as I please. I miss being able to go hiking in the woods and not run into twelve hundred other people and six of them were wearing mask outside. You know, it's just I miss I miss this. I am not a city dweller. I mean I've lived in the city. When I was very very young, we lived in Omaha, But I've grown up and spent so much time in the country. Like I need some trees. I need woods, like this little tiny six trees behind my house is and they're calling it for I'm like, that's that's that's. Not a ditch. It's a ditch. Maybe as a maybe, as a troll, we should start petitioning the national parks to make masks illegal all national parks. Make understand it. But you know what I'm gonna jump off on this is it's funny. As I had said something to Chris the other day is you would not believe how well the government did their job in the sense that people were so scared that they are still wearing their masks. Like I did. We wore a mask because at the beginning we didn't understand what it was. We didn't know all the statistics were all over the place. The science was there at the moment, and then as timing on we saw where the science really stood versus what the science was being told to us. We're not the same. And you know what what shortly after that, none of us wore a mask if we didn't have to, we didn't. Yeah, but the number of people who are still scared. I spoke to a lady who refuses to even leave her house if she doesn't have to, because she is afraid she is going to get sick. She because I don't believe the TV and it's saying that it's safe. M it's weird, man. It's a mental thing, that's what it is. They need to put the mask on their brain because there's some some kind of mental disorder. Well, I mean think about it. You keep someone in a glass bulb, glass, you know, glass container for so long and you shake that little orb up and move all the parts around. Yeah, well you're right, and you're and not only that on outside of that owl or bulb, you there was chaos twenty twenty probably really wrecked some people mentally, and it's going to take some years for him to get back look at the data. They even later admitted that the number of deaths that they were reporting as COVID was not actually COVID because the amount of grants those those facilities were getting. But I'm not even just talking COVID. Oh no, no, no, I get that, But I'm just saying in just that aspect alone, in someone's mind who listens to that, and all these people that they knew all of a sudden died of COVID. To them, it's a real thing, even if they hadn't died of COVID and they didn't know any different, because the coroner reports say it, and then all of the other chaos. You know, it's you put yourself in a blender at that point. Yeah, it was a crazy time, and we had a micro civil war. Also, we had a president that was impeached twice all in the same year, Right, wasn't that all the same year? I mean, that's all then, and then this year his house got raided for no reason at all. I mean for the app, I mean we're plugged in, you know what I mean. But for the average person, it's not plugged in. And they were shaken awake in March twenty twenty and we're like, oh, there's a pandemic. Oh we're going to close. School with Yeah, CNN was their main So that's a lot. That's a lot to take. Like, like I said, we're we were we've been talking about this stuff, civil unrest, fires and you know, unrest in the streets, and you know, we've been thinking about it. But to a person that's like, I'm a I'm in finance, you know what I mean. I played golf on the weekends and go to the movies. They had to face down a lot and I bet people up. Well it did. I mean think about it. One person by them set, one dumb person or one scared person by themselves can be dangerous. One dumb person or scared person in a group is chaos. Yeah, we saw it. I mean, when it clips down. To it, it really shows the difference between the sheeps and everybody else. Yeah, well that's true. Well, yeah, yeah, to be the sheep you want to. Hear what's terrible? You know what, industries didn't really go down throughout all of. This porn. Industry. Oh you said it. I was joking. I'm not joking. I'm serious. That important skyrocketed. Poor absolutely skyrocketed, which did not help with some of the depravity you were already dealing with. Strip clubs boomed. That's wild, right, my right. I know some girls who worked there and they said they wore master in the club, didn't mind. You know, everything else was out, just the face was covered and then. But those industries did not crumble in any way, shape or form. Because husband's going on trips. Yeah, you'd be surprised it did not die. Yeah, that's funny. Bars didn't close down, especially the outside bars out here. You can walk around with a drink. Well, I always looked at bars like, if it's coming out of my respiratory system and out of my mouth, probably one of the best things to do is put some eighty proof up to your lips. And you know what I mean, it kill it, kill it before it escapes. So I haven't said this one on air. And it's funny that you say that though, is susceptibility and sickness. And maybe I'm just jumping off on another tangent because you and I never stay on. Oh yeah, but that's the point. I love it. So I recently, a few months ago, was was really sick. I actually had become euroseptic. I had actually became resistant to all oral anabotics, and I have been on all of them that I had to receive IV infusion and abotics. And I'm sitting there in infusion and this is where chemo patients and everybody else sits, and they keep it like a meat locker. And I looked at the nurse and I said, why do you keep it so cold? She goes, Well, all of the equipment, I said, She goes in you know it's better anyways, I said, really, because cold actually lowers and suppresses the immune system, which makes you more susceptible to being to catching something and getting sick. She goes, that is true, she goes, but all of the equipment. So they say that they keep it cold because the equipment. But I'll tell you what, I was more terrified of being in there. Well it was so cold and catching something. Sure, yeah, your health's scale already. Right, I mean it was, And you know they're like, well, viruses have a harder time than cold. No, viruses have a good time attaching to you when your immune system is suppressed, whether it's cold or not. So even a smaller virus that is having a hard time in the cold will freaking flourish. And a body whose immune system can't fight it off. Yeah, it's like they're hanging out. They die out there, you know what I mean, They're not hanging out outside like, oh it's so cold, we can't do anything out here. What are we going to do? But it was just one of those things that made me think about it. When you know they're talking about how people get ill, is we are going to see another uptick in sicknesses deer in the winter, and that is because people are cold and their immune systems are suppressed. They don't get outside, so they don't get the vitamin D like they need to. Well, the kids, huh, if the kids with the RSV, they lock them up and masked them up and bubble wrapped them for a couple of years, and now their immune systems are clearly compromised. Right. Well, I mean look at and when I say this COVID babies. Those parents have kept these kids under such lock and key that their immune systems haven't fully developed or underdeveloped. I should say, if that makes sense, yeah, because they've kept them under lock and key, and they're still terrified three years later, still terrified to let their kids out, and then when their kids go out, they get sick instantly because they have no natural immune system. Good, it'll say, you know, I mean, think about it. Even if you can't go outside during the cold months, do you have a window. Do you have a glass window? You know, when my son was born, he was jaundice. Most breastbed babies do become jaundice pretty easily. I just don't let my baby lay out in front of the window. You know, on days that I don't have time to go downstairs and go outside for my little fifteen minute break. You're gonna laugh. I have my office I'm in right now, my spare room for my podcast, in a krochetaning room. I step in here. I have the windows open because I have a large glass window and where the sun hits I sit right there and let the sun hit me. It feels like a bit of a rejuvenation, just being able to get a little bit of sun before I go back to the desk and sit in the dark. Indeed, it's huge, it is, it really really is. Okay, No, do we need to throw a commercial in here? We've been soundset to wrong. I wouldn't even worry about it now for so far deep in at this point, I know all I have. I have you Jay's case. Good conversation is valuable, you know what I mean? It is commercials every single show. It's not the end of the world. We do so many damn shows. Now it's. I love it though I've loved even though I have not been able to be one hundred percent proactive like I want it to be. I have set down in the back and I've just loved seeing how our network has flourished, Our listeners are continuing to learn, our our listening crowd is growing. And I actually you're gonna laugh that I'm resetting up my my, my social networks. And I'm actually thinking about streaming as well, like actual video, to kind of like Phil and Andrew do. That. I may even push the boundaries of YouTube, just just to see how far I can poke that bear as well. I'll tell you what I've been having a lot of fun on Instagram. I don't know, you know, I've had a lot of fun with it. It's been fun. But I have decided I'm not going to convert my older family affair. I'm starting completely fresh with Phoenix Survival. Yeah. I think that's a good idea. I think you should probably download those and well maybe I'll download them for you and send you a zip on for Christmas or something. You should definitely keep them, you know what I mean. They're special. Oh yeah, no, I don't plan on getting rid of it. I just I'm not going to use them. They're They're gonna sit where they sit, whether they be still or not, and start something new with the with Phoenix, I think. Well, there, let's start new. Yes, you know, technically I did picked up and started over. I might as well pick up and start everything over. Yeah, why not. I think it's great. I'm glad to have you back, you know, back eating in this regard, you know, not that you ever left, but glad to have you back in this regard. I'm glad you got a partner in crime too, Jay Ferg that's nice to see you know, dude, I'm. Going to tell you. It's wonderful to have someone who I say, hey, let's make a list, Okay, let's do it. I'm just like, wait, what okay, and sit there and immatury things with me, and sit there and make plans with me for things and being able to figure out what's going to be best for our life. You know, especially in this situation, is where we're at. We don't want to be here long term now right, No, No, and we plan not to be. But we're also at a point where in February my lease is up. Do we renew because I didn't get to close on the house I want it. I'm like, do we stay out here another year? Because he has a good paying job that is continual work, year round. I have a job where I can work from home and I can still get it out every now and then and do some side work. But is that what we want? I don't want to stay in the city. I mean, honestly, I don't think it would be wise to stay here. I don't see you guys being there long. No. I just need to win the lottery. I don't gamble though. I don't like to camble. I don't like to. Lose, can't can't win if you don't play. That's my wife always. And you know what the thing is is we have we have and we've we've played and said, you know what, we'll try. But when it comes down to it, you know, I just I want to make something of myself. I want to make something of my page. I want to make something of our network, you know what I mean. I want to grow where it counts and make where it counts. You know, I infancy, No, for real, it feels like because pbn's been around for ten years, even though most people that listen now only know it from you know, four years or three years or maybe even two. And I've been listening since even probably it. Was probably like a year and a half, two years old. Yeah he's thirteen. Now wow, Yeah you were there from the beginning. Yeah, you know, I listened to yours and this. Is just the beginning. Yeah for us. Oh yeah, I mean it's literally I don't even know you know that there's I really have no goal limitations. There's no limit. There's never going to be a time when I go, yeah we're big enough, good. We're in every country or you know, we're in every We're on every continent or what? Why? Why stop? You know what I mean? Right? No? I agree, I think. I mean the reason I the biggest reason that I paid for it and took the responsibility on by myself was literally the main reason was Jay Fergie loves doing her show. Colin and Ryan love doing their show. And if if we don't figure out how to make it work, then they've got to figure out how to do these shows. You know, they gotta either they're going to figure out how to do these podcasts, or podcasts is going to be a thing that they did one time in their life and they don't do anymore. And I was man that that would be the worst, you know what I mean. When that came up, and before you had said, you know what, I'm just gonna buy it, I was all in for putting whatever share I needed to to help pay for it, as. Soon as as doubts that you guys would have done it, but I knew that I was probably the only one who had the bandwidth to do it do it at the money. Yeah, and and because I was working for myself, you know what I mean. I would like to eventually get I'd like to be like you. I'd love to work for myself. Well, I mean, I don't. I think you're one of the hosts that's got the potential to pull it off, you know what I mean. That's what I'm hoping to make from my site. I don't I'm tired of working for corporate America. Well not only that, but you've got the fiber skill where you could sell courses from your website on that. And that's the plan. You get on that piece of property, you start your little you know, YouTube channel, you can get income from that. You know, if you want to do that dance, that's you know, that's completely your call. But people make a lot of money on YouTube. You know. I'm just not welcome and I kind of like that. So I'm I'm doing a YouTube page just so like when I stream actually footage content or you know, podcast content that way. But I am curious to see how long I'll last on that type of channel. I wouldn't ever begrudge anybody from doing it, you know what I mean. I still think, and I am going to say this on the recording, I still think red Bean and I know where it should go. I'm just I'm still just trying to light that fire underneath your head. It is definitely you wait long enough and I'm just going to tell you to hand it here. Let me do it, Glen. I mean, it's something that probably should happen here eventually. Well, you know, you know where it got its name from though, No, Glenn's Sun he started. Oh, Glenn's Sun's Yeah. I pay for it. Every year it comes up and they say red Beacon and it goes up every year, you know. And I think I think our listeners are not going to see an end to where we're going anytime soon. No, definitely not. We're here, We're I mean, I'm you know, I don't even plan. I'm young as he is, you're young as is. I don't ever really plan on retiring. I mean, I'm not the retiring kind of guy. I'm not. I'm gonna tell you. Finding out for myself. So I've always had two jobs standing on my feet. I did demolition, pharmacy, you know what I mean. I'm constantly moving this sedimentary lifestyle, sitting there at a desk, rough driving me absolutely mentally insane that I I pedal. I pedal all day long. I'm like, I'm I'm running, but I'm not going anywhere. I just and I have to literally get up at my breaks and walk out of the room. Oh yeah, you got to do that way. I have my podcast set up in my separate room. I can't if I because I had my laptop next to my work computer. I'm gonna tell you right now, every time my computer my laptop was up, I didn't want to touch it because it was right next to work. I get it, I get it. You know. That's one of the reasons why I haven't published a book in so long. I'm looking forward to the one you're about to your uh, your scary story ones. Yeah, you're gonna people who know me are going to enjoy that book most. Oh, I'm looking forward to it. I'm waiting it's coming out. Don't know me, and you don't care to know me, You'll probably still really enjoy it. But if you know me, you're gonna be like, oh, this is good stuff. So it's funny that you would say that. Is I have found myself writing poetry again, and I haven't wrote poetry. Since poetry at published years ago. Poetry is not cut through yet, you know. It's one of those things that I don't know. I see a lot of things return, a lot of old things, a lot of silly things come back into fashion. I don't know that poetry ever will I'm not sure, you. Know, you know what I'm waiting on. So I'm waiting for the Victorian. Era, the return of the Victorian era in the sense I. Think we already live quite a bit of a Victorian style lifestyle with some of the things we do in our skill sets. That's a good point. But you know, it was in its own a romantic period in the sense of how honest things were. It was, you know what I mean though, the fantasy of it, right, And so I mean that is actually one of my favorite things to watch when I am downtime YouTube is the Victorian cottages or wartime gardens or all of these other aspects of these lives that you know, most modern people would look at and just completely sneer at and for us, for us, we're like, ah, the dream, yeah, you know, not that I want the I don't care for the turn of the Victorian era and the you know, the modernization as far as like steam engines but or you know, going from coal to what have you? I think no, the turn from coal to steam was better. But you know those are aspects you know, we could even like you and me. I what I like to do is watch those and see what can I learn and what can I use in today's times for myself that I want to volve. What's funny is I'm watching the full season of the Victorian Air on a Winter's Farm, and I already knew some cleaning methods that it was interesting see that they were still doing in the Victorian Victorian age, like you know, the best way to remove ink out of clothing? No milk, milk, milk? Whoa yeah? And it's funny is I already knew that that's what I use is milk. If I get ink into clothing, I use milk. And brandy can be used for certain things. There is one where they coat it in butter and then soak it a certain way, and I thought it was very interesting, and then it made sense of why our clothing look as white as it does in laundry detergent, because most laundry soaps are a yellow tint, and to keep your whites white, they put indigo, which counteracts the the yellow, so it looks like a pure white because it cancels. It you're way above my head. Now, well, it was the nerd in me. I love I love that behind it. But you know it's going to show like I'm listening, I'm like, hey, I knew that, but I didn't know brandy could get out, you know, a certain stain. I didn't know I could use a liquor. And then it kind of fits true to you always hearing that the washers were a bit of a bit of drunkards, and that would explain why is because they probably took their time to also drink. The ladies drink some of the alcohol using because they were using brandy and. Yeah right, yeah that makes sense. So but it was. It was interesting. So if you ever get the wild Hair, I mean, I would say check it out. I mean, she the one of the ladies roof in there is one of my favorites. She's a historian for like women's housekeeping or something like that. I hate to I hate I feel like I'm just totally chopping it up. But the housewives role or the housekeeper's role in the sense of she can cook on all sorts of stoves, she can you know, make blood put in or whatever from However, it was originally made, and it was interesting to see that type of skill sets being preserved even now from an error that no longer exists. Yeah, well, somebody's got to keep those things alive, you know. We're trying our best to bring those things back, some of them right right here we go. It was called Surviving Winter on a Victorian Farm is on all out history. All loud history. That's better than history, yes, all out history. It really is though. But it's interesting because for me, it's one of my favorite sets. In even did one the Ruth, the lady and their Ruth. She actually does the Victorian garden as well, and they talk about the wartime error and they show how they managed garden and they show how they handled crops from beginning to end. Like these people lived this lifestyle for an entire year. It's like, if they can live in an entire year in that type of lifestyle, then we have the same capability. Oh, they are. Historians, but some of these people, like will tell you they've read these in books, but they've never had the hands on like they did in that moment. Yeah, I'm telling you we're a lot more. We're a lot more than we could think, that's for sure. The human's ability to survive is much stronger than we give credit to. But you also have to have, you know, the mental fortitude to realize you have that strength. I mean, I'm gonna just repeat. You know, my brother said, lesser people could not have handled the life that we've lived. Yeah, it's a good way to look at it. I think it's true. It's not trying to sound cocky or or whatever you want to say, but I do believe that. I think even you know for yourself and myself, we have lived lifestyles and gone through trials. I don't think other people could have handled. Lesser people couldn't have. Handled I don't know. I don't know because I think people, uh, I should say we'll put up with a lot. I think they'll put right. I shouldn't say lesser. I think people who I don't know how to say it. With when you don't have options, you'll you'll you'll get through it. I think nowadays, you know what we see with it's a beautiful thing, it's a beautiful disaster. It's like people have so many options, and I think that's why we see such weak people because they're rarely in a petition where they have to you know. Yeah, I think there's too many. There's too many genders, there's too many. Yeah, well that's a whole other conversation. Yeah, I'm not going there. I'm just saying you're right, there are too many options. But you know, I think that the problem is as you see so many people also who think they don't have any options. I get it, you have you have the same on both ends of the spectrum. You have people who realize they don't have think they don't have any, and some people who think they have too many. It's a good point. Yeah, you always have, you always have options. All right. So we are actually coming up on an our twenty twenty three. Didn't know if we wanted to keep going or round it up. I think I'd round it up. We could always do a part two. I'm always down for that. Yeah, because I think our talks are always always great in the fact that we don't have to have a script. We don't. Oh yeah, mind always talk naturally and I chaf berg even when it was just in a chat room. Yes, yes, absolutely, absolutely, Well then I will I will preface this with I appreciate you coming on. I guess now it is officially you know, Phoenix Survival since I've had the Intrepid Commander on. Oh yeah, let me give you my blessing as if you did it. On the side of the cross right. Well, thanks for having me on, Jay Ferg I always whether or not. I'm glad. It was a beautiful night for you to be able to sit out and enjoy it. Oh it was, it was. I appreciate you forcing me out of the house for that. Oh darn all right, well, I appreciate it. And for all of your listeners, we will be eventually getting to the point where I will be doing live again. It will probably be early in the morning, so if you are a morning bird, then feel free to jump on. I'd love to hear comments and suggestions, especially an element and again for any of those out there, I do have an email now. It is Phoenix Dash Survival at proton dot me. Feel free to reach out, whether it be questions, tips, advice, suggestions. I'm all ears and keep on prepping. So thank you, PBN, thank you James, and I hope everybody has an amazing weekend. Thank you for listening to the Prepper Broadcasting Network, where we promote self reliance and Independence. Tuning in tomorrow for another great show, and visit us at Prepper Broadcast, thing dot comm