Preppers LIVE: Funny Folies & Fails

[00:00:05] You're listening to PBN. Your path back to stability here. What is up PBN family? Back at it Monday Preppers LIVE man. It has been a wild day running running all day and Ran right here right in time. I was literally eating a bowl of life cereal

[00:00:50] Begging Jay Ferg to let me call her in five minutes at like five minutes till nine. So I'm sorry. We're late That's all my fault for sure so we got a show for you tonight that is it comes from the it's the brain child of

[00:01:05] Lisa T the so-called prepper as formerly known that the Tennessee prepper now I guess then So we're gonna we're gonna discuss one of my favorite topics which is When stuff is gets funny and stuff goes wrong in the self-reliance and homesteading and prepping world because

[00:01:24] That shit happens a lot And most people don't talk about it of all the YouTube videos and podcasts and things like that that I have seen It's very rare for for people to admit defeat or to talk about the things that go wrong

[00:01:39] You know, it's fun. It's fun And you learn probably some of your best lessons that way one of my favorites one of my favorites of recent times is When Dave Jones and I and Ben I think Ben the breaker the banksters were all splitting some hog and

[00:01:59] We were supposed to get this big giant 200 pound hog and Dave Jones calls me from the farm and says the hog got out And it took off down the hill and we can't get it back

[00:02:10] And we wound up with four piglets instead, which was the better meat. I think in my opinion But you never know when a hog will go awry. So let me Let me get Everybody unmuted before we get 10 minutes into a great story and I go oh

[00:02:29] Nobody heard that but me. So what is up everybody? We got Jay Ferg We got we got Lisa with us And we got Sarah Hathaway with us. I mean, this is the

[00:02:43] This is the trifecta here of lady preppers on the prepper broadcasting network. Yeah, that's this is the PBN sirens here You guys better watch your step because it's It's real I can't even imagine, you know Sarah and and Jordan at prepper camp is

[00:03:01] A force to be reckoned within and of itself once Lisa finds her way there Yeah Could be wild but Commander you realize that the three of us have different

[00:03:18] Things so it's like one of us is white one of us is dark and one of us is like in between I see Jordan as the sookie from which is a Vistwick Susan Sarandon is yeah, yeah Share okay No Too good movie

[00:03:47] But thank you commander for let me do this because I thought we needed to have some fun with all the Sadness and all the crazy things happen. I thought you know what it's so depressing. We need to start having Fun we need to have like

[00:04:01] something lively break the Depression oh I was nervous. I was nerve I thought we were gonna be in World War three tonight having this conversation So I'm glad the Iranians staved off for a bit, but yeah, you're right. We do need a break

[00:04:16] There's so much in the news. It's insane. So I'm glad you brought my attention Yeah And then Sarah launching that video that I just finished watching right before you guys called me And I was like oh yep that one's dead on well, that's some legit stuff, huh?

[00:04:33] She is an investigative reporter and Wow, it's all I can say I still haven't watched it you talking black rock lady Yeah with what black rock plans do with tokenizing everything. Yeah, it's

[00:04:48] Seriously crazy stuff. I'll go grab it off YouTube and throw it up in the chat. Yeah, there you go That's a great idea. All right Yeah, go ahead. Yeah lead off because this was your your idea was It started as a fail and then I couldn't stop laughing

[00:05:09] It was in this last December when I was job hunting and I was bored and it was absolutely freezing And I thought I need to do something. I'll make sterno How hard could it be?

[00:05:21] So I'm watching all the videos on YouTube and they're talking about you know, you could buy like six dozen eggs use this shells I'm thinking oh god. I don't want to crack that many eggs. I thought wait a minute. What are eggs shells?

[00:05:34] I'll do chalk and then I realized wait I don't want to buy that much chocolate alone try to destroy it. I can dig deeper. I'm going oh I'll buy the calcium citric get it off eBay and they talk about in order to make the sterno really really

[00:05:48] Strong you have to have like a 91% proof rubbing alcohol They're not joking when they say on the warning label. You better have ventilation I did not open up the door fast enough to my balcony and Turn on the fan and an oxygen

[00:06:08] Cleaner because Bruno and I I could tell he wasn't feeling good. He was falling over. I was like, oh god So I was okay. That's this isn't good

[00:06:18] So I'm trying to follow the directions and how to do this and it's like talking you take a gallon of this to that much that and I start Nothing happens. I'm going. Oh no, I just spent all this money. I don't have oh my god

[00:06:31] What am I gonna do? So then I start playing with it I start making a smaller amounts smaller amounts and it got to the point where okay my math is not that good So I had to consult some friends and I said, okay, so what is

[00:06:45] Such as such teaspoon compared to this this Ratio and they go, okay three tablespoons to this to one teaspoon of that great This is where I got really bad. I swear. I felt like beaker with you know, professor Melendu something. Okay

[00:07:00] I've got so much left of alcohol this much left of the powder Let's make some and as I do that I'm thinking this to myself I pour the alcohol and all of a sudden I got sternum blowing up out of this bowl

[00:07:12] I'm going well no and I'm like, oh it did work I saw play as fast as I can I'm like you can actually handle it. So I'm you know trying to cram it into the jar

[00:07:22] We're okay now. I know the form. It's not a gallon. It's literally like three tablespoons of this high potent alcohol with these one or two drops of the calcium citrate in just a tiny bit of water and all of a sudden it just makes sternum

[00:07:37] That's a very cool skill. I didn't know how do you make sternum? I've used it Millions of times in restaurant industry never ever thought to even try to make it

[00:07:47] It is so expensive now because now they make it where it's like over five dollars for that one little Tin and I looked on YouTube now YouTube on Amazon and I got a case of 72 for like 30 bucks. I was okay. That's still a deal What is that?

[00:08:05] Stir now is the liquid fuel gel for chafing. Oh, yeah fair enough. Okay. Yeah Yeah, and like some of those outdoor fireplaces they use that and it's wonderful because It's harder than heck to put out. I mean you can blow on it

[00:08:21] But it's like napalm and I had a little special thermometer and I got my sternum to be about three to four hundred degrees I mean it was blue flame and I went yeah, mama made fire Mama made fire nice

[00:08:33] I was like, okay. What was the fail end up playing boom and I thought why didn't I have the camera on Myself as I'm like pouring a little bit of alcohol and all the same it goes I'm going well. That was fun

[00:08:47] Who that alcohol wow you really have to have Vettelation because I was still like really woozy going Narni Out and yeah, that was my the great sternum of 2024 2023 At home chemistry on chemistry experiments at home New terror high-reed

[00:09:12] Hatter's comment. Oh go ahead. Yeah. I love it. It's great So one of our listeners in the chat says the first time I started pressure cannon I did not use the correct amount of water

[00:09:22] It was not enough by the time I realized my mistake the pressure was so intense in that canner It looked like a football luckily it did not explode

[00:09:32] I had to buy the canner presto canners are a great product, you know, that is amazing actually for a good product review I hope you actually put that on the site. I'm glad no one got hurt

[00:09:43] But I couldn't imagine the amount of terror you went through in just a short period of time Oh my god, I don't know if I'd be brave enough to grab it If it started swelling and looking like a football like you know to throw it outside

[00:10:01] Because you're getting glass shrapnel and maybe even lid shrapnel from the ball jars Okay, tell all right for the listener that had that story I got one I know the feeling I am terrified of those kind of the old-fashioned pressure cookers

[00:10:20] And when I was a little kid we had just moved from Ohio to California And my mom had gotten one of those old-fashioned pressure cookers when they have the little glass Tip that would do that little whistle and we don't know what happened

[00:10:34] All I remember was my mom was trying to make a pot of black beans and we're all watching because we're all excited I mean we had nothing else to do right and all of a sudden we just see the little

[00:10:44] Plastic thing go boom and then all of a sudden the whole league goes boom and brand new kitchen We were all covered with first-degree burns of black beans Yeah, I

[00:10:57] Ever since then you will not see this girl doing a pressure cooker like that or an instant pot. I am I'm still scarred I totally understand that I got one for you and this is a little Super embarrassing to admit but They're the best

[00:11:18] So when we first like started out the mission I've always been country girl I've always gotten a hunting and fishing and everything and when I published my books are like, oh you're survivalist What is this stuff? so

[00:11:30] We got the bags and we're gonna go back packing right so we can like practice the bug out experience Oh, yeah, and like do it up right so we live in Sacramento above Sacramento in this little town called cool and and

[00:11:46] You know up in the mountains and snows and whatnot so we Was like Memorial Day weekend or something it was early and the snow was all melted at our elevation But we get up to the camping spot. It's like snow all over the place

[00:12:03] So we can't there the first night and then we're gonna walk To the other lake during the next day camp there. Oh We walked all day long Lost the trail we finally had to just go by the other the primary lake

[00:12:20] But we can find our way around this thing and it's like snow on top of rocks and our bags are so heavy We're falling through onto the rocks underneath, you know trying to navigate all that And we just way over packed our bags like lesson learned

[00:12:37] so happy and Just way too much like we were thinking we're like we're car camping But we're just gonna put all our stuff that we normally put in our car in these bags

[00:12:50] Yeah, and no so we get around to the far side of the lake the trail that we need to take is like 50 you know meter or yards or whatever up this huge hill. We totally missed it

[00:13:03] We're like we're just gonna camp here on the lake for the night, right? Well, the wind is just whipping Freezing we are miserable. We just want to go home We know we still have t-bones and the freezer, you know Oh, yeah

[00:13:18] And so we had our tent set up and so I put Brock in the tent and I put on my bikini top And I went out on the beach and there was like this guy out there fishing because I'm like

[00:13:31] Like hey, can you can you come over here? Like can you help me out? Hey, you know and he's like I got one Like Brock Yes, the guy. I'm like hey

[00:13:46] Do you mind giving me a ride back across the lake like I'm really not jamming with camping out here And I just want to ride back right and he's like yeah, no problem. You know grab your stuff jump my boat I'm like all right Oh

[00:14:03] That's sweet the look on this guy's face he was so pissed Oh, I bet we get everything We just wadded it up You know through this dude's boat and he sat Brock in the very bow of the boat

[00:14:16] Like in the very front and hit every wave all the way back Wow Just Hype Thanks for the ride dude, you know, here's a beer for your troubles. Oh Yeah, so very resourceful though Right

[00:14:48] Yeah, I was not saying there another night. I was like we are out of here right now like We all figure it out and I did it. Yeah, that was pretty good one

[00:14:59] Jordan I can totally see you doing that all sudden Chris comes out with the baby. It's like well, wait a minute. Whoa Right Yeah, the guy was like Absolutely resourceful though. I wouldn't thought of doing

[00:15:13] You know what else was really smart of the guy was to take the guy and put him in front of him where he could watch him the whole time Yeah, cuz he didn't know you guys from Jack. You know what I mean? I can't say no now

[00:15:31] You know they could have killed him Sarah and Brock could have killed that guy took his boat or whatever So he was smart of him to sit the guy up front That's true. I never thought about that wasn't just vindictive

[00:15:44] Yeah, he probably was like this guy you know come get me from behind maybe Yeah, I thought he was just being an a-hole. I mean he may have been to Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, I agree with that

[00:15:59] So unfortunately mine mine isn't like that like I've told mine before and I have no problem telling it is my mishap with my electric fence and I Turned my electric fence off

[00:16:12] Right so I could have swore I turned it off and I stepped over and I caught the right side of my groin Right in my groin not center mass. I'm lucky. I didn't because this fence was enough that it was nearly center mass Well, then I jump out

[00:16:32] And I catch the left side of my groin Switch because somehow I guess I got it confused during the rainstorm that I had it off instead of on Actually I think I called you laughing I Knew it myself in the groin. Oh, yeah

[00:17:01] Myself center mass or that would have just been a horrible That's that's a great one though that is a great one That the wrestling match with the electric fence is great Right party we had a big party and

[00:17:24] The even the kids from like the carnival that were in town came to our house was that big of a party Wow, and one one guy was like taking a leak in the back 40 and just peed right on the fence. Yeah Oh That's a great smell

[00:17:44] I'm like electric fence Watch out for it, you know, right? That's something it's like I'm used to being around electric fences, but I don't know what happened just that day I let my guard down and it shows you can play some C

[00:17:59] Can get you if you should treat an electric fence like a loaded like a gun Even if it's off you need to treat it like it's on because I found out there are times where certain fences can still hold a charge Even if they're off

[00:18:15] Was it like a pretty bad one or was it mild it was no so it was meant for like dog sheet So it's it was it wasn't grounds like if it grounds through you Yeah Yeah

[00:18:42] My friend thought it was like fun to just grab the top one because that's the only one that worked and He was like double power and grab the bottom one with the top one and it You know, it made the circuit through him and he was just

[00:19:01] I actually have that same solar electric fence I wouldn't get the battery placed and it's sitting on my back porch right now to actually put up Because the fact it still works this many years later than it needs I feel like another ad

[00:19:22] Garden girl said something in the chat because it's not as scary But I got a bunch of boxes of dried goods on clearance at the store I usually jump in jars and sell or vacuum sale, but just decided to put it in my overstock

[00:19:33] Months later went to get some rice oroni out and it was full of bugs I took out every box and checked him and sealed properly Hatter actually made a great comment a best of freeze for 24 hours your flight

[00:19:46] Flower and rice to to kill anything that might be in there Hatter I'm gonna be honest. I've not thought about doing that because I know rice have bugs in them

[00:19:53] I know if you leave them the hatch I always just immediately back in your cell and put them up Say I don't think about sticking them in the freezer because freezer space is so limited in my house I don't buy anything that would fit in my freezer

[00:20:06] You know what I mean like 50 pound bag of rice ain't gonna fit into my freezer My freezer would just went down, but I kind of think it's like a blessing from God because

[00:20:19] What are you gonna do with all the stuff in the freezer if you just wake up tomorrow or back to steam? It is because we'll see me

[00:20:26] Tell you what I would do I would I would throw it all in the trash bag and cover it with salt and Then very twine it up and hang it under the house or in the shed or something like that and see what see what survive

[00:20:38] I mean, I've got extra jars around and stuff But that would take a lot of jars to rip a whole cow out of my freezer and start throwing That is Who has enough jars have you ever met anyone who has enough jars

[00:20:57] Great job with pickles this year finally the first year Since we moved here in 2020 that we really got a full haul and we're able to put pickles back again Oh, I'm just starting to get jalapenos and bell peppers now after my straight up play

[00:21:13] I like it's this season has been so rough out here Texas hits early like my my peaches come in and like April May I mean you already have to have stuff planted down by February so it can come through wish and yeah

[00:21:29] Literally so it can like be ripening in May June. It's an early growing season here, too It's like a I found out I can grow bananas So I that's like one of my into the world goals as I've always I love bananas. What about a pepper corn plant?

[00:21:48] Uh, I haven't thought of that but I I want bananas There's a guy who lives and uh like two hours north of me and he has an he's on youtube and has a bunch of banana trees

[00:21:59] So i'm like if he can do it then I can grow freaking bananas Jordan can you do me a favor tell jasmine? I know the issue that she was having with the flower

[00:22:09] It's uh, it's easy for me to like put the flower in the uh freezer for like overnight And what I did with my rice was I bought a fresh bag of rice

[00:22:19] Shook and making sure there weren't any little critters, but I also um bought oxygen absorbers and I bought the half gallon Jars and I threw an oxygen absorber and then I quickly filled it with rice so that way

[00:22:32] If in if there are eggs or whatever there's no oxygen once you seal it Because yeah, I understand what you guys are talking about it It's hard to put like a 50 pound bag of rice trying to lift it let alone put it in a freezer

[00:22:45] And I find oxygen absorbers are awesome For that kind of thing that's one thing I've I've been working dude. I used to train survival with as well he would put it in uh food safe five gal and

[00:22:58] Put dry put it like a paper plate on there and put dry ice in there And then seal it down so that the dry ice would kill everything before that's a good idea. I like that nice I got I've got an idea

[00:23:15] Because we have a unique set of uh Guests here tonight, and I think this could be highly valuable. It is essentially a a fails thing but because of because of the type of Uh ladies that we have on hand this evening

[00:23:30] And the state of affairs when it comes to men in general What if we do Your guys sort of top man fails In other words the things that you see men do or not do and go like

[00:23:45] Oh, wow you're turning to like a gender thing. Yeah, well, I would Actual fails or weaponized incompetence That's a that's a that's a really tough call nowadays I've got a good one. Yeah, I think this is this is very important because there's a lot of there's too much

[00:24:07] Information coming from men about what women like And I always think that's weird, you know what I mean like go to the source Like why why would you want a dude's advice about what women like? But anyway, so the opposite end of that would be

[00:24:24] What are the what are the big fails that? Fails for men. Okay. Yeah, so my biggest thing is I train martial arts like four days a week five sometimes sometimes twice a day, you know, um obviously very self-defense oriented and whatnot and then

[00:24:46] To have these gentlemen who come up in the the nicest way And we're like, well, I was in the military for four years. So I know more about martial arts I love

[00:25:07] Yeah, right that it's like really okay you train like one week of your I've been training for over 20 years You know, I ran into it a lot being in construction of He intrigued it like I know less just because of my gender and my size

[00:25:23] Right. Yeah, I I am a very small woman. Sarah is my height too We're both very small women. So people look at us and and what kills me is when y'all know me y'all know my personality They think I'm passive

[00:25:44] So what do we call that underestimating or or it's not necessarily Yeah, but that's not what it is What it is I was about to say that is I've I've had that work to my advantage too because if you play dumb

[00:25:59] Then they don't realize how smart you really are and you can use that to an even upper hand, right? Yep, because if I don't have to strain my back carrying something and they want to help me reach something on the top

[00:26:10] Please by all means do it for me. I need six of those down. Can you get those for me? Oh, thank you so much Oh my god Um one more thing that I kind of notice is um Too many, um

[00:26:29] chiefs maybe not enough Indians as far as like Um, we you know, you ask about what kind of system would you set up for your survival community? and uh It always has to be like one person

[00:26:45] And I agree that it has to be one person making quick calls, right? Yeah, there's so much that happens in a community underneath That one person that needs little leaders, you know those little chiefs ends, right? and instead of like, um

[00:27:04] We're just gonna have you know one person take control of all the hierarchy of duties and such Yeah, that it's like, you know, you got to think about all those things that happen underneath it because not everybody's going to be out there with their AR and

[00:27:18] You know hitting the front line with you and you got to have that structure supporting you or you can't go hit that line You don't have food and you don't have hygiene and you don't have a lot of really important things so I think um

[00:27:33] One of the biggest realizations that I made was that everybody Is purposeful in a survival community Even if it's just for lifting the big things or doing those things, you know

[00:27:46] Everybody has their place someone just for watching the children. Yeah, it's the same way for us like me and chris We have talked about it on my friends who are in our prepper plans or survival plans

[00:27:58] We already have roles of what we are capable of doing and what we need people for And there are uses for every individual Yeah Okay, I like so too many chiefs Yeah, yeah, you know that a lot of times it's uh like

[00:28:18] Jimmy knows best or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, it's I get that But you're gonna that's what this is for, you know, like with our families we run our own

[00:28:30] Our own system, right? We have our own way we work in our own little mini community is how I see our our little families Right. So we run into fells. So uh, like I run it. We've ran into fells with proper camp

[00:28:45] Several years in a row or going camping several years in a row and leaving the propane The cooker out Oh So Chris had gotten it out Which is not all his fault because I'm the one who packed the car

[00:29:01] I've been the one who played tetris and twice in two separate camping trips All of all of the propane tanks were sitting at home in the living room. Oh my god Now there is a system of okay

[00:29:16] This is the list of everything we have and this is what has to be checked off as it goes into the car because it was getting we have plenty of propane now, but running into that issue of forgetting things Is is a simple fell that everybody does

[00:29:34] Notorious for leaving and be like I know I forgot something. I'm not sure what I forgot Then 20 miles down the road We didn't we didn't realize we didn't have it until we were setting up camp. Oh my gosh Uh See we do a list with check boxes

[00:29:56] Or ours would be like oh, we forgot to put it on the list There you go. Yeah. I mean there's always a yeah, there's always a way to check things can go right But I am I am my biggest pro and con as far as prepping positives infills

[00:30:12] Is I tend to sometimes become a control fleet and how I want things done as far as like packing for Camp and trips how I want things set out which can be a great thing that can also really hurt us because again

[00:30:27] It it causes us because I just want to get it go ahead and get it done We could end up overlooking something Very true I get that we haven't heard from you lisa. What about uh What about your take on men's fails in this modern age?

[00:30:45] Uh, well, I'm the only single one I guess uh Huh I feel like you guys I feel like you guys are being very nice and holding back. I'm gonna be honest with all three of you

[00:30:58] I feel like there's a lot of things that we do this day and age and you're like, oh god. What the fuck is that? You know what I mean? I personally have a Uh, don't know any of you know what I have one ran away

[00:31:15] I have one man fail. I can say is I love my partner, but he has drank before my tincture vodka Not knowing I was using it That's a good one. Do not leave out

[00:31:31] Items that you plan to use for something else if you don't want someone else to drink it or get their hands on it No, um I think that in the preparedness community Um, there are so many what I call sheep dogs And these are The most valuable

[00:31:56] um men In the world Because they are the barrier between the wolves And the actual sheep And oh absolutely right and these So many of the gentlemen within the preparedness community when when the rubber hits the road They care about community. They want to protect their community

[00:32:23] They're worried about sustaining their community And so I think we're just blessed with a really great Um community obviously group of people but I most of the men are that way

[00:32:35] It's just some of uh, what I've noticed maybe like out of the military that get a little high and mighty on themselves And then tend to like look down on other people those would be yeah

[00:32:45] I agree with you run into that. I've only seen a few men in like the prepping group that I find Like I don't want to be around them. Yeah, right exactly I think what I would see and it's not to be

[00:32:59] Pointed to all men because I have an amazing partner. I know you have an amazing partner You know my we have fails, but it usually comes to fails of lack of communication The team screwed up Right, it wasn't just one person. It was both parties

[00:33:15] But I I think what I run into when I run into fails I see as men who prep and this is going to sound harsh is they tend to be a bit chauvinistic or misogynistic

[00:33:25] And then that's less less understanding of your the women in the community being able to be as strong as the men And my partner gives me that equality of saying I'm he well Free phrase equality to a point because there is a point where he is

[00:33:40] Physically stronger than me right and more capable of things than I am. I am only a five foot two woman And I have certain skills that he doesn't so it's no one where I

[00:33:51] Where are my my strengths and my weaknesses are and him knowing that too and then him being that protector Who's going to protect me in our offspring? And so those are great traits to have but yes anytime I see fails in men in the prepping community

[00:34:05] It tends to be like you said those over zealous men who are choose self Self entitled and are tend to be misogynistic or chauvinistic at times. Yeah, and I think it's a defense mechanism

[00:34:20] Oh, I agree because we're a threat. Yeah. Yeah, exactly and I have a hard time um understanding that like you know a female could be that Powerful as well a leader of leaders I like that. Wow. I like that

[00:34:39] There is it there definitely is that tendency though in Particularly and and this might rub some people the wrong way, but it's just where I see it um in the christian prepper sort of contingent Where I do see an over emphasis on like

[00:34:57] Roles and responsibilities. This is what the men do. This is what the women do and you cannot deviate from that You know what I mean? Women are just breeders and hung workers and it just uh It just Yeah, it's a tough one

[00:35:17] It's a tough one because I don't mean you know, I I understand their position They're reading the bible a lot more than me and I guess the bible says it But at the same time it's like our world is not built like that Like there's

[00:35:32] Testament brings it and then Jesus brought us a new covenant. So oh, there you go, right? Okay, I have to jump in and hatter says without my wife by my side. I'd fill out everything at the homestead That's That's what I'm talking about

[00:35:51] Okay, what's one of our ho I have a question. Which one of our hosts was the one that they had the chickens is a draven rock And oh, yeah, she tells them. Oh that did the chicken series

[00:36:02] Yeah, where she was saying, okay, we got too many chickens, honey Can you go kill a couple chickens? It goes can I use my bow and arrow? She's like, yeah, sure an hour later She goes outside. She's like

[00:36:12] Where's the chickens and she just sees nothing but arrows all those arrows are gone and he's like those things are That's one of my all time favorites fails and then she just picks up a chicken whack Yep, there we go I love that

[00:36:27] It taught me yeah, I don't think I can handle a chicken let alone having to kill it. I'd be doing it Like oh, it's no narrow you just hang them by their feet Or you or you grab them by their head and just

[00:36:43] When mill your arm and I'll fling its head right from its body right from its head. Okay. No, so I've got to so I'm out practice in my bow Right with my neighbor We're shooting bows and we got field tips on we're just practice shooting

[00:36:58] And this they had this rooster. It was like knee high and that thing was mean Oh, there's little bastards big bruises on your legs like a big red one

[00:37:09] And so as we're practice shooting the rooster goes by boop boop boop in front of the hay bale and we're like Okay, let's light him up And then he goes walking back by again. It doesn't like a moving target

[00:37:25] Yeah, and it was like this is it man. So boom Shot it right in the leg and he's like With like the arrow coming out of his leg. So my neighbor was like, oh I bet he brushed that off Right guys did he brush it off?

[00:37:43] No, no, he was oh no, he was down. He was like babak and then like the leg was kind of messed up So uh, so Dave grabs him by his head. It was my neighbor Dave not do but anyway

[00:37:55] So he grabs my his head swings that chicken around Boom puts them in the bag puts them in the barn done right mom She won't have to worry about that rooster no more and she's like she comes running out the barn after like 15 minutes

[00:38:10] She's like it's still alive. Oh It's just having like Right She's like, mm-hmm. So she brings it out and empties out the bag and here is a chicken like Like zombie Legs now hurt the half neck broken

[00:38:34] Hey that allison chainsong is legit. I'm telling you them roosters are hard Right, they're hardy bad. They are he ended up. Yeah. Um actually beating a 10 into the ground but Oh

[00:38:47] That's country if you if you grab it, you know, I've had that happen where I was working chicken houses to put myself through Welledon school and uh the previous people who were supposed to do the maintenance came up and he was like

[00:39:00] Oh, this is how you kill a chicken and he went to end that he's this poor chicken was lame So, you know, you have to put him down when you have them in hundreds of chickens in these houses, right?

[00:39:10] And he went to do it and he's just swinging and swinging and swinging And he can't get this chicken's neck to break and the chicken sufferin that I get so mad That I grabbed the chicken out of his hand

[00:39:20] I grabbed the head and the body yanked it apart and said here and I fling him right back at I was so mad I'm like kill the chicken don't torture the chicken. Yeah. Yeah But I can tell you a fell that could have cost me my life

[00:39:39] So I was with a friend and we were butchering Sheep and pigs And you know how they have the the leg spreaders the for you hang the tendons on each of the corners Yeah, the hangers to hang them on Yep No

[00:39:55] Her husband had accidentally cut through the tendon and we had already dressed this hog down It was just cut in half. You know, we were to the point where we get ready to salt in half He was gonna crush you No, the entire

[00:40:09] Side of that hanger with the full weight of the fork hit me right in the temple And the first thing I thought is I'm gonna die because it hit me right in the zygomatic process

[00:40:18] Which is a dangerous spot to receive trauma in and I would it get with black ferment. I'm like, I'm dead I literally thought to myself. I'm dead. So that's it's just one of those prepper things now that it was a freak accident

[00:40:31] But if something so easily could happen that it's made me more vigilant to where I'm standing when something's going on Because it's so easy for something so minor to easily be fatal For sure Well, come on James. Don't you have anything I'm trying to think of some other

[00:40:48] Plenty. Oh, I've got you. I'll tell you the wood pile fails fails So when I when I first bought our house and we moved in and all that kind of stuff I was like not even really a prepper yet, but I was just getting into stuff

[00:41:02] Getting my hands dirty and one of the first things I I did was started to learn how to use an axe and split wood

[00:41:08] And I split all this wood and I was and we have a you know a fireplace and I was like, oh, this is going to be sweet I'm going to be slick and I'm going to put a pallet on my porch

[00:41:19] And I'm going to put all the wood on my porch and I showed my wife and I was like, look, maybe if it snows We're good. We'll just come right out here get the wood right off the porch because we got like a nice porch, you know

[00:41:30] and uh That spring I don't remember who who did I think I think my wife did it one of us reached our hand on to like one of the main posts Of the of the porch and it just fell detached right off

[00:41:48] Termites from the wood I split had eaten the the Eating them right through the entire support pillar um, so we've had to rebuild the whole porch but then uh Then so you think I would learn my lesson right? last year

[00:42:07] I'm getting slick again. All right. Look, I'm going to put the wood piles down at the bottom of the back steps And that way, you know, I come down the steps grab the firewood take it up Whatever, you know

[00:42:20] If they eat through the wood fence, whatever this termites eat through the wood fence. That's an easy fix It's a lot easier than rebuilding a porch and uh One night. I'm sitting down out back on the back steps with my dogs and my wife's pulling in

[00:42:33] And she gets out of the car my one dog runs to the gate to see her I didn't even see it. It was so dark out. He gets bit by a copperhead that I'm sure was living in the wood piles put right there

[00:42:47] Is that how the dog got bitten? Oh, well, yeah, I mean, I'm assuming I'm assuming But yeah, so whatever I try to get so now it's just put the wood in the back

[00:42:58] Of the yard and go get it. What I get it before this big storm or get you know Get it when you need it because every time I try to get slick with piles of wood I pay for a deer Yeah, the first year we grew corn

[00:43:13] We had just like We finally figured it out, you know, you got to do it in blocks. You can't do it in rows You need it to cross pollinate each other. You need some good seed stock

[00:43:24] Yeah, yeah to really make it happen, you know, so we finally get like a big hall of corn and we are Oh and We hot water bathed at all Wow pressure can it Oh So I'm sitting on the shelf in the shed

[00:43:47] And we go out there to just Blubble it bubbling away. Oh no our whole harvest So that's when we figured out we definitely need pressure canning And what I did because I was so bummed is I spread it all out on cookie sheets

[00:44:08] And I dried it in the California sun and then I fed it to the pigs I don't blame that's what I was gonna ask because like when I have leftover food or um Leftover even baby jars like once he's done eaten all of that goes to the chickens

[00:44:25] The chickens are an amazing resource just like pigs are except you can't free chickens Uh radishes Really if they're toxic to chickens Oh Man pigs all I've seen I've seen my chickens eat radishes before on their own afford With my chickens here

[00:44:46] Is um, I only have three of them which is fine. They produce well for our house I'm getting ready to expand all that but I only have three right now

[00:44:55] And so I'm used to feeding my chickens like tons of scraps because we had like 170 chickens when we left, California Yeah, because we were like selling eggs to all the feed stores and whatnot

[00:45:06] And so I was like taking my scraps up there and keep taking my scraps up there Well, like the chickens are overwhelmed. They don't like to eat that much and when it's hot It's right and then we got field mice. Oh Everywhere

[00:45:23] I miss having my chickens to eat the mice like that was the one What is the Their food gets filled up with the mouse poop I'm always like I train my dogs to be able to chase the mice down My one dog will just eat them

[00:45:39] um, I try not to let her eat it but like she does and my my German shepherd will actually like spit it out for me You know so I can kill it whatnot, but uh Yeah, it's just constant problems with the mice

[00:45:53] So now I don't want to feed them too much scraps that they can't consume in one setting Do you compost it because that is one great thing about Food is you can throw it straight into a compost. Yeah, I'm gonna read um

[00:46:08] Garden's girls comment real quick because here's I think would be a man fill As uh, I used to do home remodeling with my dad. We were on a job He marked the tiles and I cut them. He yelled at me that I was cutting them wrong

[00:46:20] I told him I was following the line. He got mad again and told me I was fired But I said I quit I walked five miles home Next morning he knocks on my door tuck and tell to tell me that the tile saw was out of alignment. Oh

[00:46:38] You know, I've had a fill where sometimes Other people's best intentions are the worst thing because I had someone who thought I rule just say my ex-husband thought he was helping me And he threw down seed barrier Right after I had just planted all of my seeds

[00:46:59] Yeah, so it was meant to stop weed growth But it was one of those types of seed barriers that can affect a lot of different plants Especially like tomatoes that I had to reseed my entire garden because nothing was gonna sprout

[00:47:16] Okay, well on that one. I know not personally of a man fail that I've seen there is a guy on youtube That he talks about Hey, you can make a zeer pot and you can like if you lose power you could make your own

[00:47:31] Refrigerator and it's cold enough. It'll keep milk warm. So I sat there and that was the year I decided I was gonna learn how to make a zeer pot and that I could prove that guy wrong He was so off

[00:47:43] On the temperature and I thought that's dangerous for people that if they want to prep and they're following this guy's advice Not only does your pot it can barely keep Like a one bottle of water cold let alone milk or or like eggs

[00:47:59] It's useless and the guy talks about how oh you could keep milk in this and this something, you know, you're gonna poison people That I find horrible that he's Just giving bad advice and and have you ever seen that video with

[00:48:15] With rick where he was on that the daily show or whatever. Oh, yeah, that's so with the ninja proper guy Yeah, no Oh, you gotta see it. Yeah Yeah, that's phenomenal Funny dude so funny and the lady rick with the rick with the lady too was hilarious

[00:48:38] Yeah, it was the same segment remember And he's like empty in her bag out. Crap Yeah, yeah, well he's Yeah, I got the bottle of wine And the caviar and stuff. Yeah

[00:48:53] I'm about to find it. What's it called? You realize they're gonna look this up. What's I'll put it in the jack Yeah, I'll put it in. All right. If you got it. Oh It's in his it's in his sign. I mean his email signature always So, um

[00:49:07] Had her put a comment about his chicken. I had a massive egg and she couldn't like she was egg bound And unfortunately that is just one of those things that occasionally happen. Um, I don't think it's necessarily beaten It is just Could have been

[00:49:26] Right, I was gonna say it could have just been the breeding Some some chickens are bred too late eggs That's so a certain way that they will have larger eggs than tip normal

[00:49:38] And they will become egg bound and even when you soak them and massage them and try to Sometimes there's no just saving them. So I do I hate that you lost your chicken that way But it is a hard lesson to learn The ones we got the hooker

[00:49:51] The ones we got from tractor supply we lost like two of the six with egg bound like that It right because it's because of the breeding on my question because I ever got I got my orphantons from a personal

[00:50:05] Farmer and all my other ones as well. Here. I got mine from tractor supply. So we'll see how they'll do but we've got 11 chicks 11 hens they should start laying soon

[00:50:16] And uh, three of them are gonna be cold for the freezer. I've already got a good out which three I got a good fail for you. So

[00:50:24] Oh, we moved to Texas. We're gonna we finally like we went a year without chickens. Well, I had to have my chickens back, you know So, oh, yeah, we we get a chicken coop made and and we're going to tractor supply to pick out the chickens that

[00:50:38] We get six picked out and brocks like oh, I want the white one I'm like, what's the white one? What's the white one? He's like, I want the white one get the white one too. All right, fine we'll get the white one too seven and uh

[00:50:53] Bring them home start feeding everybody. You know everything's all good. Well, that's white chicken. Oh, no She just starts bulking up and like She's using her wings to like walk around now. She's just so rude to everybody

[00:51:10] She's a meat bird or something. She was a meat bird. Yeah, you're calling her cankles Her ankles were so big Like wow her bread Right, they're bred to get so big that their legs can't support their body. Yeah, those meat birds are they're crazy wings

[00:51:31] Oh my god, so we finally had cankles for Christmas dinner But uh, yeah that bird peeled so easy another one that we had that was that way we tried to do cornish hens

[00:51:43] And we didn't realize that cornish hens only take like six weeks to get ready to go And really yeah, and we were like keeping them alive like normal chickens, right? Say like five months old

[00:51:57] Yeah, they're just one would just sit there like flopping his head back and forth from the food to the water And it was literally growing out of its skin. Whoa Oh my god

[00:52:08] Yeah, like it was so fat that skin was starting to split we're like, oh we gotta kill these birds, right? There was a fattest cornish hens you've ever had ever I was cankles delicious Oh cankles. Okay, so that was another fail so

[00:52:26] um, we killed cankles and we ate her immediately Oh Yep, exactly because of the rigamortice. I got a great uh, I got a great chicken fail It was it was a rough one I have a picture of my son holding the first egg we ever got

[00:52:47] And it was like, you know the crowning moment like we got the chickens who went through all that We got them his chicks raised them up brought them outside followed all the steps We got the first egg

[00:53:00] And i'm like shit man now we're getting eggs now like we've done it And we put all the birds in the coop go to sleep I wake up to see you know how many eggs I got the next morning

[00:53:12] And massacre in the coop every chicken. I left one of the I left one of their roosting boxes unhooked And it almost like it knew some raccoon or possum came through and just destroyed everything killed all Yeah, you know, I had a Oh

[00:53:32] With my rabbits when I used to breed my fiber rabbits and I it's a two-parter So I my fail was allowing people to see the kits after they were born Because kits are adorable, but every intention was for those kits to go into the freezer

[00:53:48] I was then stuck trying to re-home a bunch of rabbits Because they wouldn't let you kill one couldn't live with The thought of me putting them in the freezer to eat them

[00:53:58] And that's what they were bred for was they were meant for fiber, but they were well enough fed that they're delicious like I've eaten Right, but now the biggest fail I've been into and it was a it was a learning

[00:54:09] It wasn't necessarily a fail. It was a learning experience is that coyotes can rip through wire without a second thought That they ripped out two my rabbits straight from the bottom of their pen Yeah So knowing with coyotes if you're gonna have rabbits

[00:54:29] Reinforce it as much as possible. I actually found the corrugated still I ended up putting that around and had less issues But coyotes came tear through metal like it's nothing. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, we had a bear going after our

[00:54:43] Dot coop and so what we did was we did a board with tons of nails Nailed through it And then put that up at the weaved it into the top of the fencing

[00:54:54] So when it went to grab the fencing it would put its hands on that board and get stuck Yeah, and it worked Lisa sounds like she's regretting this show now at the tail end of that. It's just it's just evolved into murder stories

[00:55:10] I apologize. My dog is going nuts. Yeah, I could never be a homestead. I'd be crying I gotta kill a little funny fun by no means Oh, yeah, and I see I've had a bird. I've had a bird

[00:55:23] Um, I rabbit you know broker neck. It's one of those things you you've just put them down I don't I guess for me who's growing up eating them. It's not a second thought to kill them Yes, I mean Hunting fish in whatnot That's how it goes good gardening

[00:55:46] Well, look Dave Jones said it best he said if if you don't if you're uncomfortable with Taking something's head off. You need to find somebody who will cut heads off for you Yes It was And willow willow heard that and willow said that's why she has me

[00:56:07] There you go. You're the head lopper Yeah, right. I have no corals about it. I Won't say bad. It's actually my preferred method really the lopping off of the head is how I do the chickens. There's no hanging

[00:56:22] Uh, grab it by the neck lay it on the wood and use like a little tactical hatchet super sharp head off done So a really good play knife will do the same thing quick. Yeah, it's it's the easiest way

[00:56:34] I found but anyway away from murder and death and on to gardening go ahead sarah. I'm sorry Well, one of my one of my survival quotes

[00:56:42] So gentlemen told me that sticks with me is like you better learn to eat the birds or you're gonna eat what the birds eat Oh, I love that. Oh, yeah, that's nice Yep Yeah, I like that a lot. There's definitely truth in that nugget for sure

[00:56:57] Right. Okay. So I'm definitely like with phil and gillian. I could never be a killer We're gonna be city preppers Oh my god You'll find somebody who can do the dirty work for you. Yeah fair enough you raised the birds

[00:57:15] I have a voice crush on Judson. So hopefully he could do it for me. Oh, there you go I'm sure he's no stranger So one of my most epic garden fails wasn't really our fault though I'm just saying that's what they all say

[00:57:33] We had grown the small patch of potatoes It hit so good so good so many potatoes Well the next year We expanded our potatoes Right, we got a whole big old section of it now. We're gonna have sex full right

[00:57:51] Right because we just made it through all last winter. So now we're gonna try and help supply three households Just going for it well My father-in-law went captain ahab trying to find another well site and just kept drilling up the property Trying to find another well site kept

[00:58:08] so We go to dig the potatoes out And all of the gophers had run away from the vibration No into our potatoes They took like one bite out of every single potato that was in the ground Yep, I just sat there I literally I

[00:58:34] Yeah, so that's where I learned by my garden fell was learning in Mississippi We had hot worms really bad and the reason why I got where I preferred container gardening Was because one year I had great carrots pulled them out put them in the fridge for a day

[00:58:50] Right was getting ready and fucking uh, a powdering my language beetles were crawling out of my carrots They had boarded And all of my root vegetables. So I then went to

[00:59:01] You can't always container garden. I'm just saying no you're talking I'm gonna feed my family for the year You're not freaking container right, but no no no I couldn't do everything container garden, but I learned I could do my root vegetables container garden

[00:59:16] And I did everything else in the ground Yeah, I don't know like if you're gonna have to grow enough potatoes to feed your family I'm probably a group of 13 people So I use molasses containers and it actually works really great

[00:59:31] It's gonna be a ton of them. I right now. I actually had four I I mean, yes, it's gonna need more but if you've got to really consider what your soil is like and how I'll handle and unfortunately

[00:59:42] I could grow root vegetables. So I had to throw them in containers and I use giant molasses containers from the co-op And I would grow all of them in there now

[00:59:52] I tried the tires and I'm going to tell you right now if you ever grow in tires before warrants mice will nest in there They loved it when I had the sweet potatoes

[01:00:02] I use molasses containers because there's no space for them to crawl into the only thing you have to watch out for is ants And there are plenty things you can do to minimize the ants and mice won't stand those containers Yeah, we got time for ants too

[01:00:20] Sorry go ahead. I'm sorry I was gonna say did you see hatter's comment on there? About before we bought our house Yeah, we had a huge garden in the back of the apartment. The owner had dimension while mowing the lawn. He ran over the

[01:00:35] He ran over the whole garden. Oh Jesus. Oh man, that's so bad Oh no, these are crazy looking weeds Oh man That's rough That's a yeah, you see how how much of an avalanche it is though

[01:00:57] Once you really like get it get the thing primed and start realizing all the things you've done wrong And how what it's taken to get here Like it's it's crazy Oh, and it's still a learning method. I mean we're still making you in daily fails on the regular

[01:01:13] I couldn't tell you the number of times I've probably done something stupid out of just pure Uh, just negligence. It was like really I can't believe I just did that exactly or did something good

[01:01:23] Like we accidentally left our wine way too long that we were making now. We got some great vinegar. I mean There you go Yeah, it's just you know what it is. It's because there's a defining quality amongst preppers who get anywhere in prepping and it's it's uh Relentlessness

[01:01:45] It's like I'm gonna keep going. I'm gonna keep planning. I'm gonna keep shooting I'm gonna keep doing these things even though I screw

[01:01:52] Well, you don't and you don't let it get you down like I there are things we do that cause it and natural events that cause it Like the hurricane or that tropical storm berry that hit my garden was under feet of water

[01:02:05] I remember posting that one ahead my other podcast. Oh, yeah, but I still kept going So I think preppers have a level of resilience and persistence That normal people just don't have I'm not saying they don't have it

[01:02:18] They don't have it at the same level or scope that we do. Yeah, or they just don't get it or they're not Ready or they throw in the towel That's it. I was literally thinking that exact same thing

[01:02:31] And I refuse to I put in too much work to see it fail now Just like my cell machine has given me issues. It's ridiculous, but I refuse to give up Just because of this I'm not gonna stop my projects or my dump bags because of it

[01:02:48] Right. Uh, uh, my thing is that I almost had a fail was you know, I come out here and I start canning and Before I knew it. I suddenly was tripping over jars in the living room and I'm like, what the heck so out of desperation

[01:03:03] I what happens? I ended up going to a restore and now It's wild cabinets as like the I'm so glad that was like, okay I walked in got myself a stupid file cabinet and now it's my go-to and every time I show up at the restore

[01:03:18] They're like, nope. We don't have any more file cabinets. Hey, how's the canning coming along? I'm like, oh, it's coming along great And it's like it's gonna be my go-to from now on because I don't care my apartment doesn't look like an apartment

[01:03:29] It looks like an office, but you know what it's one heck of a pantry and Where that you have to think outside the box Otherwise I could have sat there and said, oh my god

[01:03:40] I'm not gonna can anymore because I'm tripping over these jars. I'm like, no, screw that. I'm gonna use Sorry about that. That's my dog. Um Yeah, I just decided jackie chan it and now I got file cabinets Yeah, I remember you telling me that story Well, I think

[01:03:59] Go ahead Lisa. Oh, sorry about that. My dog just every time I get on the phone. He does this uh We need to podcast I think the the whole thing about Living in 120 square feet. I become claustrophobic and I was wanting to be in a tiny home

[01:04:17] But those are like 79 feet. No, I could not do it. The only thing I found for myself is like That's helped me with my preps is that Everything has to have at least dual duty so

[01:04:32] When I was trying to figure out what am I gonna do with all these blasted jars? Oh my gosh How am I gonna storm and I saw a file cabinets? I made sure you know what?

[01:04:40] I could definitely put these in a basement later on. Okay dual duty. Here we go and Heck yeah And yeah, you learn from it all, you know Yeah, there's no doubt about it That's why I think makes this a little different from other people's that

[01:04:56] If we're gonna survive whatever's coming we you have to think outside the box you have to go Okay, what can happen this? Real roll with the punches to quote Jordan and when her real listening episode of

[01:05:09] You got to take it and just go okay. Here we go. Here we go. We couldn't kill the chickens and so cankles became dinner There you go But you learn oh next time don't do that with that kind of chicken kind of a thing and

[01:05:23] Okay, next time you have some new jars make sure you have a file cabinet to put them in There you go thing Well, you guys were awesome. This is uh, this was a great idea Lisa. Thank you sarah and jordan for joining us tonight also

[01:05:36] And uh, yeah, absolutely. Thanks for having us. Oh, yeah If you guys are out there and you have fails that you'd like to share, please We would love we would love to laugh at you on air

[01:05:48] So please send them to us because because I would gladly read them. I think it's tremendous for Particularly for new preppers and and old preppers. I think it's so important for people to To bear their yeah to bear their their

[01:06:03] Yeah, they're they're soft parts because it's great. You go. Oh these people are human All right. Well, I think that's about it We'll see you on the flip side pbn family. Thanks so much an epic preppers live We will talk soon. See you guys

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