[00:00:00] .
[00:00:30] What if I told you you could own land for $200 down and highly affordable monthly payments?
[00:00:39] Your cheap land.com is your answer to bug out land hunting, recreation, and whatever else
[00:00:45] your uh, proper mind can dream up.
[00:00:48] Your cheap land.com has properties in Texas, New Mexico, Colorado, Oklahoma, Arizona, Utah.
[00:00:55] Go to your cheap land.com, check out the properties, use the promo code PBN and get $100 off
[00:01:02] your purchase.
[00:01:03] All right, PBN family intro audio out of the way we have the people's pharmacists with us
[00:01:09] tonight.
[00:01:10] Jen Van der Water.
[00:01:12] Thank you for joining us again.
[00:01:15] I guess I should tell the audience about the snafu, right?
[00:01:18] We did this once before and uh, I lost it.
[00:01:22] I lost it's so rarely happens and I lost the entire interview.
[00:01:27] And uh, thank God we got you back.
[00:01:30] So welcome.
[00:01:31] Yeah, welcome.
[00:01:33] How do we fix the medical system, Jen?
[00:01:39] An easy one.
[00:01:40] An easy one right off the top.
[00:01:42] My goal has always been and we discussed this on the last time you had me on with you is
[00:01:48] to empower and encourage each individual to own their health sovereignty, to make decisions
[00:01:54] for themselves and not be beholden to the system.
[00:01:58] The system is broken.
[00:01:59] It cannot be fixed.
[00:02:01] And I'm not even sure that building a new system is the answer.
[00:02:06] What if it's community?
[00:02:07] What if it's something more localized and not so so big?
[00:02:11] What if we have independent practices and we have mom and pop pharmacies and they work
[00:02:17] together, chiropractors, naturopaths?
[00:02:20] We've been kind of divided in our practices and I think this is a time for coming together
[00:02:27] in community and working for the betterment of the people.
[00:02:30] Wow.
[00:02:31] Well, excellent.
[00:02:32] It's good start.
[00:02:35] There is something to be said I guess about because we have an overwhelming dependence on
[00:02:41] what?
[00:02:42] On prescription drugs you think or on it's not necessarily on seeing the doctor.
[00:02:46] I don't think people really so much love seeing the doctor but they certainly love
[00:02:49] going and picking that baggy up at the pharmacy and bringing it home.
[00:02:53] I can't imagine what's so exciting about it.
[00:02:56] Are people like, well, I know the answer to this because I have an older mother and she's
[00:03:01] been on both sides of the spectrum where she's done take 40 pills a day and then weaned
[00:03:08] herself off all of that and down to two things a day.
[00:03:13] But it does seem like how on earth did they get us so dependent on, oh, something doesn't
[00:03:18] feel right.
[00:03:19] I need to pill.
[00:03:20] Yeah.
[00:03:21] Well, it started back in the early 1900s with the Rockefellers and the Carnegie.
[00:03:29] And that was my first wake up.
[00:03:32] You know, I became a pharmacist because I, the people's pharmacist, I love the people.
[00:03:37] You know, and I had no idea that behind what pharmacy had become was established not too
[00:03:46] far back.
[00:03:47] At least when I was, you know, looking to go to college by these power, you know, families
[00:03:53] who wanted to control and keep people down.
[00:03:59] And so you start to dig into the history and then the Flexner report presented to Congress
[00:04:06] to pretty much rule out holistic and natural remedies and institutions.
[00:04:14] And then it became the money, the money was then sent to those institutions that promoted
[00:04:20] the Rockefeller and Carnegie.
[00:04:22] You know, wow.
[00:04:23] I didn't know that.
[00:04:25] Yeah, it's really an interesting journey.
[00:04:29] And that was for me that I came across that in 2020, that was kind of like my time to
[00:04:36] dig.
[00:04:37] I always knew something was off, but I spent time and I kind of was freaked out because
[00:04:44] I refused.
[00:04:45] I said, I looked at my husband and I said, I can't go back to the pharmacy.
[00:04:48] He's like, what?
[00:04:49] Like what do you mean?
[00:04:50] I'm like, I'm being used by big pharma to just dispense and just follow protocols and orders.
[00:04:57] And it's really not helping the people.
[00:05:00] I mean, not saying all pharmaceuticals are bad, that's not it at all, but over.
[00:05:04] Like you say with your mom, you know, over prescribing and people on so many meds and thinking
[00:05:10] the pill is going to fix it and then it doesn't and then you need another pill and then
[00:05:15] that doesn't work.
[00:05:16] And it just, you know, really what it comes down to is my body spirit, my body spirit alignment
[00:05:23] is really, really key.
[00:05:25] And what we're told in this new model of health is that if you take, if you do this,
[00:05:33] it's one thing this will fix everything and then it doesn't or it's a temporary fix.
[00:05:38] So yeah, I really encourage you and your listeners to dig into that for yourselves.
[00:05:43] Don't take my word for it.
[00:05:44] I am just a messenger and I've done my own research but I really want people to be empowered
[00:05:49] and you become empowered when you find that knowledge for yourself when you do your
[00:05:52] own research and you say, oh my goodness, it's right here.
[00:05:55] Wow, they've hoodwinked us and made us believe that the herbs and holistic medicine
[00:06:03] and even these, you know, like light therapy sunshine, you know, walking barefoot, they
[00:06:10] kind of make fun of that and think that there's nothing to it when really the simplest
[00:06:15] things and the things that are free actually are the most beneficial for us.
[00:06:19] Well, I think during COVID, I mean, I didn't, I don't know if this hit people as hard as
[00:06:25] it hit me but during COVID when the studies were coming out on vitamin D and populations
[00:06:33] low and vitamin D or populations high in melanin and low and vitamin D intake and the levels
[00:06:40] of sickness really rocked my world.
[00:06:44] I mean, I was just sort of like, oh, like are you telling me that we're sitting indoors
[00:06:51] so much that our immune system is just completely compromised and if you don't drink milk,
[00:06:58] you know, and you don't go outside, you have this, they call it a vitamin but really
[00:07:02] it's a hormone, right?
[00:07:03] It's like a serious, serious part of our makeup.
[00:07:08] That was really one of those things where it was like all this hippie talk about getting
[00:07:12] out in the sun is literally, you know, you know, you're like, you know, you're like,
[00:07:14] the gin of it, you know, and what, you know, if we, if we were born onto this planet
[00:07:20] and lived under the sun for a long, it only makes sense, right?
[00:07:23] You take that away.
[00:07:24] And of course there's going to be some issues but so I have something I want to throw
[00:07:28] at you now because you might have just shook my whole paradigm with this Carnegie Rockefeller
[00:07:32] stuff.
[00:07:33] Sure.
[00:07:34] I, I, for, I don't know, three to five years.
[00:07:41] I don't remember when I started talking about it but I, I get on this little tangent about
[00:07:45] the 100 year amnesia and the 100 year amnesia is just, you know, the last hundred years
[00:07:51] the things that we've forgotten that our grandparents knew.
[00:07:56] And now you tell me that about the natural healing and all that kind of stuff being sort
[00:08:00] of kicked out.
[00:08:01] And you got me thinking maybe it was more of a head trauma unless of an amnesia.
[00:08:05] I don't know.
[00:08:07] Was it done to us or did we forget it?
[00:08:10] You know what I mean?
[00:08:11] Did we not hand it down or was it diabolical?
[00:08:14] Yeah, I just think we're not taught it.
[00:08:17] I mean, it, I was actually surprised when I started researching and it's been a few years
[00:08:22] and I know things are being scrubbed but I really think you could still find some information
[00:08:27] on it.
[00:08:28] But I, I just think it was never told because I mean I went into pharmacy.
[00:08:34] I worked in pharmacy.
[00:08:37] I'll give a little background for just to refresh your memory and to share with your
[00:08:41] audience.
[00:08:43] I got into pharmacy right out of high school as a pharmacy tech and I actually was going
[00:08:49] to go to college to be a lawyer and I'm so glad I did not go that path but I, I was, you
[00:08:56] know, looking to go in a completely different direction started working as a pharmacy technician
[00:09:01] and I fell in love with the job but it wasn't the pharmacy part of it.
[00:09:05] It was the community.
[00:09:07] I enjoyed people coming in that I knew that were my neighbors, that people that I knew
[00:09:13] from, from high school their parents, you know, that I had seen when I had sleepovers
[00:09:17] and just, just connecting with people and having conversations.
[00:09:22] And I looked at the pharmacist I was always working with.
[00:09:26] They just weren't people friendly.
[00:09:30] They like to sit in the back corner and read the newspaper and drink their coffee and hit
[00:09:34] the enter button and just say here the script's ready.
[00:09:37] Go hand it out.
[00:09:38] And I'm like, you don't want to talk to the people like they might have questions.
[00:09:41] You can, you can feel them.
[00:09:42] Let me know if you need me.
[00:09:44] And I just thought what a disservice to the people to have someone with all this knowledge
[00:09:49] hide and not be out public facing.
[00:09:52] So I decided to take that journey and become a pharmacist for that reason.
[00:09:58] And people used to say don't you love learning about the drugs.
[00:10:00] I said, I'm just getting through this so I can be in the community and help people have
[00:10:04] the knowledge to give people the information to live better.
[00:10:09] I had no idea that the path I was on, I mean it was definitely divine to get me to where
[00:10:15] I am.
[00:10:16] And I believe I had to be shown things for sure in order to wake up and know what's going
[00:10:20] on.
[00:10:21] But I had no clue.
[00:10:23] Nothing was even taught in pharmacy college that their petroleum synthetic petroleum based
[00:10:28] meds.
[00:10:30] Nothing was taught in pharmacy college to say, hey this drug is very similar to a natural
[00:10:35] compound.
[00:10:36] We've just changed a few molecules.
[00:10:38] It was like these drugs were the best thing ever and nothing could compare.
[00:10:45] We were not taught on nutrition.
[00:10:46] We were not taught about the naturals or herbals.
[00:10:50] We had one class very little because as a pharmacist people come in and say, hey I want
[00:10:54] a conatia and what we're told is the FDA doesn't approve those.
[00:10:59] So you really shouldn't recommend naturals.
[00:11:03] So it really had me a little scared and really believing in pharmaceuticals until I actually
[00:11:10] practiced and started to watch.
[00:11:13] And again my journey through college so I started in 1998 and by the time I graduated in
[00:11:19] 2006 I had seen people become very dependent on the pill.
[00:11:27] Like every pill they wanted a pill but and you ask those two what happened to make people
[00:11:32] want that advertising?
[00:11:34] And he started to advertise.
[00:11:36] Yes, they started advertising commercials in women's magazines and different journals
[00:11:44] and all of a sudden these ads were out there and they it's propaganda so they make
[00:11:49] these people look happy and living every day's a vacation and they are jumping towards the
[00:11:55] sky and they're with their family and people are like, I want that.
[00:11:58] So they think it's the pill that's going to bring them that when it's a false notion
[00:12:03] and then again they start taking that pill and then three months later they're back to
[00:12:08] the way they were feeling or maybe worse and saying, oh now what do I do?
[00:12:12] The doctors let's add this on there.
[00:12:15] Let's try that and they just change things up.
[00:12:17] So I had no idea and until I started researching and came across it.
[00:12:23] And I don't even know how I believe it was divine because I wasn't like typing in Rockefeller
[00:12:28] or I wasn't looking anything up.
[00:12:29] I was just going through this period where I was kind of realizing there was a lot of
[00:12:36] things that were false in the world and I wanted the truth.
[00:12:39] So as I was truth seeking I stumbled upon this Rockefeller and I think I think the title
[00:12:46] was something with Pharmakia and I went, what is this?
[00:12:49] And so I watched it and I just like seriously was just in shock at how my industry that
[00:12:55] I thought was to help people was actually not, that was not its main goal.
[00:13:01] I mean some people do get help and I'm not against pharmaceuticals in any way.
[00:13:06] I just feel like over prescribing and keeping people dependent is terrible because you're
[00:13:12] not really helping them.
[00:13:14] You're just giving them a little, a little nudge and they could be living much better.
[00:13:19] Yeah, it's such a big business.
[00:13:22] I mean the one that scares me the most recently is I don't know what they're called but it's
[00:13:28] a blood sugar and weight loss injection.
[00:13:34] Yes.
[00:13:35] And I'm like who's not going to take that?
[00:13:38] You know, I mean like I know a lot of people that won't take it but the general public
[00:13:42] you know they're like wait can I eat donuts and be skinny and not have diabetes?
[00:13:47] Like this is perfect.
[00:13:49] Just give me the needle.
[00:13:51] Those things make me really nervous because they don't even make sense.
[00:13:54] You know my father-in-law he was like prediabetic changed his diet and was no longer prediabetic.
[00:14:03] You know stop eating cartons of ice cream and drinking Coca-Cola every night and he was out
[00:14:07] of the hole on his own.
[00:14:09] But if you give people that I mean that seems like too easy, you know?
[00:14:14] We've been conditioned to not want to give up our treats.
[00:14:19] Like it's everywhere you go right so people are like well I'm not giving that up and then
[00:14:25] it's not so much giving it up it's not that you're never going to have it again.
[00:14:29] It's a balance and it's not even a diet it's just it's a new lifestyle.
[00:14:36] And believe it or not when you start eating better and choosing actually paying attention
[00:14:42] on awareness that we have lost and that is something like you talk about the hundred
[00:14:47] year amnesia.
[00:14:48] We have lost the awareness of what we're putting into our bodies.
[00:14:55] It's so easy to just pull up to a fast food window and get that then it is to actually
[00:15:02] take the time and prepare you know a meal and have it homemade.
[00:15:07] And then you know all the ingredients but we've become disconnected from that awareness
[00:15:12] of the food and it's everywhere and then people think if I give up ice cream I'll never
[00:15:18] have it again.
[00:15:19] No I have ice cream.
[00:15:20] I even have soft serve which isn't good for you but in the summer I do like to have
[00:15:24] a soft serve cone and I'm not going to give up things in my life.
[00:15:27] I'm just choosing to not make it be the control.
[00:15:31] And like I say you start choosing better food your taste actually changes your body adapts
[00:15:38] and I go back never a soft serve ice cream cone though but I do go back and have other
[00:15:43] things.
[00:15:44] And I'm like you know what?
[00:15:46] I don't really like that anymore and I can start to taste that it's not natural which
[00:15:53] I believe again is a divine gift that was given to us that we've lost through you know
[00:16:00] grocery stores putting things there and all the packaging and then you buy it and then
[00:16:05] you eat it and you just think it's good and you go back and buy it again and you're not
[00:16:08] realizing what you're actually putting into your body.
[00:16:10] But I used to love potato chips.
[00:16:12] I don't even eat potato chips anymore.
[00:16:14] I mean I used to have it with my sandwich and I just cannot go back to it.
[00:16:19] They taste off to me now things just taste different when you start to eat.
[00:16:25] Choose to eat healthier and read your labels and watch what you're putting into your body.
[00:16:29] It's amazing.
[00:16:30] And then that happened to my wife.
[00:16:33] Same thing she gave up Coca-Cola for lent one year.
[00:16:36] This was years ago now that she gave up Coca-Cola for lent and then when lent ended she
[00:16:41] had one and was like I don't even like this anymore never drank one again.
[00:16:46] It was crazy.
[00:16:48] It was wild to watch.
[00:16:50] Yeah because really the for and I don't even know how it happens.
[00:16:54] It's like the first time you try something that's bad and it's different you just like
[00:16:58] it and then your body actually craves it like whatever they have in these products your
[00:17:02] body is wanting more and more so something like the soda right?
[00:17:06] If you raise the sugar yeah it goes to it's like cocaine to the brain right so you're
[00:17:10] like I need more anymore and you're once you detox from that and you go back to it it
[00:17:16] stands out to you in a way that you're like I'm not doing this and I've noticed it
[00:17:21] with a lot of foods too.
[00:17:22] I've changed completely.
[00:17:24] And I'm glad.
[00:17:26] I mean I was never someone that had a weight issue but I feel better and I know I just
[00:17:34] like eating cleaner.
[00:17:35] It makes me feel good too then I'm not eating the junk that they're propagandizing me
[00:17:39] to want to eat.
[00:17:40] You definitely feel better.
[00:17:42] I mean there's no doubt about it.
[00:17:44] You can go one day and really go off the rails or at least I can and I'll be like wow
[00:17:50] do I feel bad and I'll even know like I'll even know as the lead ups going on like oh
[00:17:55] I shouldn't have that shouldn't had that and I'll know by the end of the night I'm
[00:17:58] gonna be in pain I'm gonna feel I'm gonna be depressed I'm gonna be mad all those things
[00:18:02] come from that man but the opposite side of the coin that I think is really good and we
[00:18:08] do this some of us do this here at pbn our listeners and some of our hosts is to not
[00:18:13] eat for a day or two or even three.
[00:18:17] And you do that yeah when you fast man you you will get that sort of eat something you
[00:18:22] have it eaten in a while and go whoa whoa I don't even want that anymore that's where
[00:18:26] you really start to have those experiences because things you know that you were eating
[00:18:31] like constantly just for the sugar just for the whatever you eat them after you come
[00:18:36] all the fast and you're like I want me I want you know what I mean I want some real stuff
[00:18:42] less a real real food yeah no it's true it's true fasting is a great way to detox the
[00:18:49] body and allow the body to heal and who would have thought we are told you know that
[00:18:55] you have to eat three meals a day or if you can't do that snack all day and it's like
[00:19:00] we're actually hurting ourselves yeah that's the word and it is and we don't you know
[00:19:04] I used to think that way too because that's what we were told I mean I was taught that
[00:19:08] in college and I believed in it until I started to see that that wasn't truth and you
[00:19:14] know the food pyramid just get rid of that you know it's all wrong it's absolutely all
[00:19:19] wrong I've learned that if they say do this I'll just do the opposite yeah that's what
[00:19:24] I'm just like I'm not even I'm just nope I'm not even questioning it if I hear it on
[00:19:28] mainstream and they say this is this is it here it is I'm like yeah I'm doing the opposite
[00:19:33] you know don't eat eggs don't eat butter don't eat red meat I'm like yep eggs butter
[00:19:37] red meat here I come my life is eggs my life one third of my life is eggs every
[00:19:44] one day every day and if I don't have a like I definitely feel hungrier because the
[00:19:50] eggs are so full of protein and so nutrient rich I can tell if I skip eggs and have
[00:19:57] something else or if I just choose not to eat and then to say I'll eat later and yeah
[00:20:02] I can definitely tell when I'm oh yeah and you also realize when you're eating it when
[00:20:07] you get into eating eggs all the time for breakfast you realize what the hell else should
[00:20:14] I eat for breakfast like everything else has consequences eggs are the only food that
[00:20:19] I can eat for breakfast unless there's vegetables involved or another meat that like you
[00:20:26] have no even when you're baking an egg you're like oh man I got the nitrates in it I can't
[00:20:30] eat too much of it you know what I mean yeah everything got cereal too much sugar oatmeal
[00:20:35] now they said it's got all kinds of problems with that pesticides and all that kind of stuff
[00:20:40] but eggs man for my chickens out back I know I'm good I'm good to go yeah I've got chickens
[00:20:46] too and I enjoy the fresh eggs so I think everybody needs chicken chin everybody who has anywhere
[00:20:53] to get them anywhere to stick them you gotta crevice to stick a little coupe get four chickens
[00:20:57] six what do you don't even need a lot four chickens it's no for anybody with the house you know
[00:21:02] with the household family that kind of thing and then you're in you know your breakfast you are
[00:21:08] and if this doesn't take much I mean I clean their coupe out daily and I bring them they love
[00:21:13] cabbage so I chop up cabbage for them and bring it up to them you know and just yeah and there
[00:21:19] people don't even realize they're so friendly and social like they really are just a lovable little
[00:21:24] you know addition to to the to the homestead so I think people should definitely consider it get
[00:21:30] chickens oh man I want everybody to have them you know because then then also when something crazy
[00:21:37] like COVID happens and you can't buy food you're like oh we got protein though you know you could
[00:21:41] put all kinds of carbohydrates and stuff like that on your shelf for the long term the big problem
[00:21:47] for most people is I don't have any protein now you know what it means but if you have a little
[00:21:51] just a few hands out back you always have high probably higher quality protein and anything you
[00:21:56] invited average supermarket anyway absolutely you know unless you have access to like a grass fed beef
[00:22:04] section in your market but you don't know where that comes from either you know what the chickens
[00:22:09] are eaten and you know what all that stuff when they're yours yeah they they're a key but nutrition
[00:22:15] is huge nutrition is one of those crazy overlooked things exercise same thing you know exercise
[00:22:21] tremendously overlooked in terms of like how you feel day to day and exercise doesn't have to be
[00:22:27] vigorous which you know I feel again has been misleading to people exercise is just movement
[00:22:35] like moving is just key um I feel like again it's the same with like the idea of dieting oh I'm
[00:22:41] gonna never I'm gonna have all this stuff it's a lifestyle change that you incorporate it's not
[00:22:47] short term and you do what you know you can do if you set yourself at a goal that you're never
[00:22:53] gonna attain well what's the point but if you know you can walk every day walk every day and
[00:23:00] you can increase that walk you know go a little longer you know move a little faster but if you
[00:23:05] know you're going to get out every day it's it's so important it's about movement and I I feel
[00:23:11] like exercise people hear that word and they're like oh they just kind of like sit back and cringe
[00:23:15] and say I'm not I'm not one for exercise well it's not it's not an exercise routine it's a
[00:23:21] it's a movement routine so whatever you can do to move and stretch and however long you can handle
[00:23:26] everybody's different and I feel like again another thing we've been put into a box on this is
[00:23:31] how much you have to have and I think people people know themselves best and know what they can
[00:23:36] handle and you know they should set their limit and then increase it as they need to but I feel like
[00:23:42] everything's just been so um over complicated yeah and it's so it's so simple like
[00:23:50] and really that's why I mean health is really simple and it's actually free it's not supposed to be
[00:23:56] complicated and costly and that's what bothers me you know being of the alopathic side and watching
[00:24:05] things unfold I've just it bothers me so it's like you're taking advantage of people when they could
[00:24:11] do all these things for free oh that's where you don't want them to because then again we lose
[00:24:15] you for them the top they lose control of one they lose control of all so as they're seeing
[00:24:22] their pillars of their wicked society you know start to crumble they're getting scared because
[00:24:28] they don't want to lose one of them because you lose one the whole thing will come down yeah I
[00:24:33] really do think Jen that I mean if we can avoid things like nuclear war and the big you know
[00:24:39] problems that that could happen I do think that generationally we're gonna see a lot of this
[00:24:47] and not just in the pharmaceutical medical world but we're gonna see a lot of weird old stuff
[00:24:51] that doesn't work die off literally with the people who have championed it for a long time um
[00:25:00] because you know how does how does the way we feel about big pharma we kind of came into that knowledge
[00:25:09] because of the internet and stuff like that but there's a whole new generation of people that are
[00:25:14] growing up and already have grown up and their parents were talking about it when they were kids
[00:25:19] you know what I mean and their parents might have raised them on natural stuff or at least just
[00:25:24] talked about it you know and I think it's really I think a lot of these crazy things in our society
[00:25:30] that were tell captive for so long are gonna burn out due to the evil people dying off just
[00:25:37] you know by the hands of time so that's what I'm hopeful for anyway I don't know who's gonna carry
[00:25:43] the torch what kind of a Creighton would carry the torch for like nicotine cigarettes and you know
[00:25:49] what I mean who's gonna be like that's my deal I'm gonna die on that hill in 2050 doesn't seem like
[00:25:55] there's a chance you know right no if it's a good point and I'm with you if yeah and I think
[00:26:01] there are a lot of parents today today especially that have awakened and they are raising their
[00:26:09] their children into the more natural into chickens right into homesteading into life outside
[00:26:16] of that system yeah we call ourselves for lions and independence here absolutely and what's
[00:26:23] gonna happen is as they grow up you know they're having that knowledge and they're not gonna jump
[00:26:30] into you know the matrix life they're gonna continue what their parents have started the way it was
[00:26:36] again like you were saying the hundred year amnesia it's like exactly how it was is the
[00:26:41] farms and the homesteads are passed on to the next generation the kids did not grow up
[00:26:46] and move across country and start a life you know as a computer tech programmer you know like
[00:26:53] they stayed home and continued on the family business that was started by their ancestors and kept
[00:27:00] kept the land and and everything in the family so I see that coming back it will take time but I
[00:27:08] see that coming back and then as they say no you know nobody and like as awareness is is definitely
[00:27:14] brought up they're not nobody like you say it's gonna want to take on the cigarette campaign
[00:27:20] yeah that's right there's a well these families today are like a little more you know they have
[00:27:25] intuition they are connected and yeah I'm not gonna put myself out there so it's definitely
[00:27:33] something that's coming for sure as parents I think we want to keep those ideas like as foreign
[00:27:39] to the kids as possible you know like the idea of like I'm on up medication every day
[00:27:45] and unfortunately there are a lot of kids who are on them but you know I think you do your kid
[00:27:49] a really great service and you know what to the doctors credit with my experience with our pediatrician
[00:27:54] in particular um they don't prescribe jack for my kids when they're sick so I think that's
[00:28:01] really good that's a good sign when I was little we got sick we went to the director we came
[00:28:06] home with the pink bottle you know every time we came home with the pink bottle it didn't matter
[00:28:10] what it was you know what you got you got fever it takes on a pink bubble gum flavored antibiotic
[00:28:17] my kids I think they had an antibiotic like two or three times they don't get sick a lot but you
[00:28:21] know when they do most of the time the doctor's like that's a virus we don't know what it is they'll
[00:28:25] be better in three days is not cause and I think that's really a much better relationship then
[00:28:30] go into the doctor and thinking like I gotta walk away with some because that's how I grew up I grew
[00:28:34] up thinking I grew up the doctor I walk away with a little white bag I take what they tell me
[00:28:39] and then I'm better you know yep yep that's out and if you've got a pediatrician that's not doing
[00:28:44] that that's amazing because that's yeah I was the same as you I used to always get the little
[00:28:50] pink bubble gum flavored yeah you know three times a day you know my mom would come in with a spoon
[00:28:56] and there it went yeah just destroying the uh destroying the digestive track down there
[00:29:04] killing off all the good bacteria and then they don't understand why you don't get better well
[00:29:09] you just killed off the whole gut yeah exactly exactly then they put you on a medicine for that
[00:29:14] oh you got ibs time for one of them pills exactly yeah it's definitely you know that's what it happens
[00:29:21] it's just one to the next to the next and it's just crazy and and it is like this thought because it was
[00:29:27] so it's you know um and still in us is going to get that little white baggy like it's just it's
[00:29:34] one of those things where it's kind of beat like a habit or some weird tradition like you go and
[00:29:39] you go to the from the doctor to the pharmacy and it was like if you went to the doctor and not get
[00:29:44] a prescription then they weren't doing their job oh yeah the doctor was failing which really
[00:29:48] that's that's correct because that's what the system wants them to do so that's absolutely how
[00:29:53] it worked out and then we were thinking they're not doing their job they didn't give me something to
[00:29:56] get me better exactly how we were thinking exactly how we were thinking when one of my first son was
[00:30:02] young we were like we don't get nothing we don't have to go pick nothing up what's going on
[00:30:07] we just sit here and watch him yeah just his body is already healing you know it's already working
[00:30:14] absolutely but it was a paradigm shift for sure um i like your stance on uh and it fits right in
[00:30:20] here because we're here at PBN we've set this network up so that uh we don't take a dime from
[00:30:28] anybody who likes to censor so we don't have any YouTube presence we don't have any income coming
[00:30:34] from people who could say no more you said a bad word you can't you know what i mean
[00:30:39] yeah so i like the fact that your whole platform is kind of built on the same idea of integrity
[00:30:46] you want to tell us a little bit about your maybe your guiding principle there because it's
[00:30:51] an important one this day and age it really is it is and and i tell people all the time i'm like
[00:30:56] you know i've walked away pretty much from from my career because the first first of all with that
[00:31:03] i can't go back knowing what i found out about the Rockefellers and the Flexner Report once i realized
[00:31:12] what they were up to i was like their mercenary and i refused to do that now i could go back with the
[00:31:19] knowledge i have and try to help people but it's not what i feel i'm called to do i'm not called to
[00:31:26] go back into you know the the belly of the beast so for me in my heart i just i'm like i cannot
[00:31:34] walk back into a pharmacy and dispense medication with what i now know um also if i've been somewhere
[00:31:42] beings you know don't seem right you know if it doesn't align with what what my core values are
[00:31:48] and i am faith you know i am i believe in the handshake which nobody seems to believe in anymore
[00:31:56] you know like the way i maybe i always thought i was growing up in the wrong time but maybe
[00:32:01] i'm growing up in the right time to bring back those values because you know like i believe in it
[00:32:07] i if i give my word my word is my word if i have a handshake deal i'm going to stand by that
[00:32:12] because biblically it says make your yay yay and you're no no you know it says it tells you
[00:32:18] just to do that so i'm like okay and i was raised you know that way and so um i won't go out there
[00:32:26] and promote or you know stand behind something just to make a dollar i guess is the best way
[00:32:34] to put it my goal is the people i do need to make money yes because we all have bills but i will not
[00:32:40] compromise who i am in doing that and i will not sell my soul you know for the dollar and it's
[00:32:47] makes it really hard living um because i obviously paid a lot of money to become a doctor of pharmacy
[00:32:54] and i'm not working as a pharmacist um but there's a clean feeling in my heart and there's a
[00:33:04] free-ness a peace in my mind that i don't have to you know worry because there's going to come a day
[00:33:09] where i've got to account for my actions and why i did what i did and i want to make sure that
[00:33:16] i hear the words well done good and faithful servant and so i i live by that and it's it is will be
[00:33:23] always be a hard road for people that do because you're always going to be shown something all the time
[00:33:29] and have to make a decision and that decision is going to be you know based off of your character
[00:33:36] your morals your values and your integrity well this is the core of what's wrong with america at the
[00:33:45] moment you know is is so many people because first of all your judgment comes every night
[00:33:51] people don't get that that's why i think so many people are on depression pills because you
[00:33:56] you know the judgment comes at the end but you judge yourself i think on the pillow every night
[00:34:00] i know i do which is why i work so hard not to be in the guilt box at the end of the day um but i
[00:34:07] think a lot of people were put into your position you know i think maybe even the majority who knows
[00:34:14] were put into your position and uh they went the other way they said you know what i'm just going to
[00:34:20] sit here and deal with this i don't really believe this i don't believe in what i'm doing
[00:34:25] but you know what i do believe is rent you know what i mean and i think they got i think they got
[00:34:33] and and you know what else to i think we put a tremendous amount of pressure on people with college
[00:34:38] because you're told when you go to college you're going to make money and then you get all the accolades
[00:34:45] for going to college in the last thing you want to do is be like well i went to college and then i
[00:34:48] got the job and then i quit the job and now i don't have any money and i look like a failure in my
[00:34:54] family's eyes or whatever the situation is and i think people are just like no i'm gonna i'm going to
[00:35:00] be a career person and you know even if there's guys in the girls bathroom i'm just going to stick it out
[00:35:09] and do this thing because you know i committed to it and and i think it's been detrimental gen
[00:35:15] to our society because people have become accustomed to lying to others lying to themselves
[00:35:21] and now we're in this weird place where people like you who say i'm not i can't do this anymore
[00:35:26] and i'm not going to do it anymore and i'm gonna stick by my guiding principles are so rare
[00:35:33] you know i don't know many people like you i mean i do know more people probably than the average
[00:35:38] person because of the being in the prepping world um but i don't know a lot of people out in the
[00:35:44] you know flesh and blood world that i interact with that we're like i took a major stance
[00:35:49] and i feel like in a time like this like this is the time for major stance on all kinds of different levels
[00:35:56] so i got a weird one for you sir because this this it fits with this conversation and your story
[00:36:04] in particular and i'm not saying it would have changed your decision or not
[00:36:12] since we don't get married as much as we should and we've thrust so many women into college and into
[00:36:20] the workplace at high levels so they take on high debt and they have high responsibility um do you
[00:36:28] think that affects society on a whole in terms of their and it could happen to men too i'm not
[00:36:33] singling women out i just mean when you're married at least you have another per you could say look
[00:36:40] i'm making this big decision and that could be i'm leaving this job or i'm starting this business but
[00:36:45] i'm making this big decision but i have a whole another half who can help float this boat financially
[00:36:52] in this sort of time of turmoil whereas if you're single it's like whatever you say boss
[00:36:59] i have nobody else you know i have no help i have no other half so i just have to stick it out
[00:37:05] and uh i wonder if some of the problems that we face with people just you know giving up on
[00:37:10] on their guiding principles has to do with that you know being single not being married not having
[00:37:16] the support of a spouse and that kind of thing yeah i i wouldn't know because i've been with my husband
[00:37:23] 27 years so i wouldn't know though because you've had tremendous support for 27 years of your life
[00:37:31] you know i have but yeah so that's that's that's a thing man that's a thing and it's it's
[00:37:37] sucks that we've been lied to and you know been like you're good do it on your own it's fine
[00:37:43] um and you know i want to say i just want to say that what i find is really
[00:37:47] you know i grew up at a time too and in high school you hear that you know be a woman and go get
[00:37:54] a job and go get a career it was it was pushed on women to become what the men were and at the time
[00:38:02] i didn't think anything of it you know and then met my husband started pharmacy college and super
[00:38:07] exciting because i thought it was you know i had the the flat road ahead of me in my head but god
[00:38:14] takes you on a whole different journey for sure yes so but i i will say the pressure is out there
[00:38:22] especially when we're sending our kids to you know the public school because they're pushing their
[00:38:27] agenda and no longer it our women are no longer valued in the home and that to me is sad because
[00:38:35] in this time period i'm in of a of a break a reprieve of not being in pharmacy and not really
[00:38:42] you know taking on work per se my work has become my home and i have completely like flip i'm like
[00:38:52] what the heck why did i not see this before like why was i convinced that my role had to be
[00:39:00] out there when the role here in the home it there's there's value to that and
[00:39:09] you actually connect with yourself more when you're doing what you were created and designed to do now
[00:39:15] i'm not saying women no one should go out there and work no that's not i'm saying but
[00:39:19] we're all being conditioned and pushed you know down this road to say women are equal as a
[00:39:24] man so they need to go out there and work when the the role at home is work and it is just as important
[00:39:32] and if not the most important because you're you are taking care of the problems 31 women you know
[00:39:37] that's that's the only way i could describe it and i like you know i've been planning meals
[00:39:43] and i i assist my husband we i love it the prepping world we are building three greenhouses we
[00:39:50] already have a small one we are we are growing lots and lots and lots of veggies this year we're
[00:39:56] going to can like you can't believe we are going to have great great stuff and i have been enjoyed
[00:40:04] being beside him as we're out there building these structures you know i'm not you know i'm not
[00:40:10] hammering or doing the hard labor i'm just there and i get to be a part of that world because before
[00:40:18] when i would get up in the morning and drive my car and go to the pharmacy but the pharmacy for
[00:40:22] 10 to 12 hours i come home it was done i'm like oh it looks nice yeah great how to go i wasn't a part
[00:40:29] oh sure yeah right now i'm a part of it and i get to you know plan meals and just just be involved
[00:40:35] in the day to day and i just feel women were a little tricked with the whole feminist movement
[00:40:42] to think that we our role at home was hogwash nothing no it was if you do is how terrible
[00:40:49] women shouldn't be home and that's where we've lost really the foundation because the foundation
[00:40:55] is family and that's what they've been targeting and attacking getting rid of the family structure
[00:41:00] getting with the family unit and having both both parents not be around with a child has to go
[00:41:08] to the public school system when you know i have i have omniscient neighbors and there are days i
[00:41:14] watched them and i'm like boy would i love to just become honest because they are doing it right
[00:41:20] i just like hour and running water yeah exactly and i don't really want to be in a horse and
[00:41:24] buggy all the time because there's something about you know windshield when it's like eight below but
[00:41:29] but yeah i just did i just wrote an article about omniscient cooling for this summertime
[00:41:35] oh yeah and i did a lot of research about the omniscient don't get me wrong we buy our meat from
[00:41:40] omniscient people i don't have anything wrong with them but yeah they got some things just just
[00:41:45] do a little research about omnis wedding night and you'll be like um nope not uh
[00:41:53] i'm only taking parts i don't want to go i'm just taking part because it gets weird
[00:42:00] they build things together as as a you know community they support each other as a community
[00:42:06] they garden they have the most amazing things that they have for their garden
[00:42:11] they build and then they sell um they do everything cash so that they don't have you know any debt
[00:42:18] that comes along with it it's just to me it's it's a freer way in that way of living and i watch
[00:42:25] watch them because they're they're actually my neighbors now they moved in next door so i get to
[00:42:30] see them and building and you know the whole the whole way of life and it
[00:42:35] there the women take care of the home and the guys out plowing or you know building and
[00:42:43] and it works and we've lost we've lost our way uh they just didn't get the amnesia
[00:42:49] they did not know that's all we were like that 150 years ago everybody was basically omnis 150 years
[00:42:56] ago you know absolutely mm-hmm no dependency on electricity none of that
[00:43:02] but yeah now we've yeah it's just crazy how quickly we we just gave up with convenience and comfort
[00:43:09] and dependency just so fast you know in our history i flundered this like how
[00:43:15] i we were driving somewhere one day and as we were driving down a road and you can see in everyone's
[00:43:22] house like that it was you know almost nighttime i could see it was tv tv tv tv and it hit me
[00:43:29] like oh my gosh that's how they convinced everybody yeah whether it was the radio or the tv
[00:43:37] that's how they can get into everyone's home and convince you that the way your living is wrong
[00:43:43] with with tv shows with commercials any propaganda they can they can put out there
[00:43:49] they've put out there and when you're in your home your guard is down
[00:43:54] okay so safe so that part of your brain that's like checking and paying attention and being
[00:44:01] vigilant is turned off because you're sitting on your couch relaxed for the evening and nothing
[00:44:07] is you just be in dumped information not realizing you're being tricked and that's how they've
[00:44:14] been able to give us amnesia because even think about it you know the radio was probably
[00:44:20] the first way they tried it and then they just pushed it with their television tele vision you know
[00:44:25] I'm telling you what to what to see and think and that's how they've been able to get everybody
[00:44:32] to just so quickly give up because you know and then you the peer pressure i mean think can
[00:44:37] imagine the women back like in the thirties and forties and they're like hey this easier way
[00:44:42] to make this and then feel like the oddball out because you're sure you can be old way right
[00:44:48] i could just imagine how quickly it just spread because that's what this what happens you know and
[00:44:54] and i see that kind of like women targeted marketing i'm always suspect i mean all the way back
[00:45:02] to the feminist movement i almost feel like in order to get people to spend more money on goods for
[00:45:10] the home you know pre-baked breads all that kind of stuff autumn you know dish washers and
[00:45:17] washing machines electric all that kind of stuff i feel like it wouldn't even work without a feminist
[00:45:22] movement i feel like majority women would have been like oh by and out it's stupid i could do that
[00:45:27] myself you know i always feel like there's this nefarious undertone with the direct marketing to
[00:45:33] ladies like they're still you know i remember there there used to be a movement called free the
[00:45:39] nipple and i remember watching that like what group of dudes convinced the ladies that this is what
[00:45:45] they need to do stop wearing shirts like nobody will come up with that idea but a bunch of guys
[00:45:49] sitting around like send the email this will work you know what i mean it never seems like
[00:45:55] anybody has the best interests of women at hand when there's a big campaign i'm always like
[00:46:00] what's really going on here you know because you rarely hear a voice like yours come on and be like
[00:46:05] this is how you should do let's get back to what we've been doing forever and see how that works
[00:46:10] you know yeah i and i bet people would be pretty amazed because they're going to when it's
[00:46:18] in the will of how we were created and designed it's it feels there's a there's a connection
[00:46:25] then you have a connection to above because you're you're living out your true destiny and we are
[00:46:32] we as women are told to live out a different way and that's why i mean i guarantee you i saw it when
[00:46:38] i practiced women are on are then probably the number one sex on anti depressants and anti-anxiety
[00:46:47] because they're still supposed to run the household but also go out and have a job oh yeah it's
[00:46:54] crazy and you're stressing yourself yeah and you're stressing yourself out and i know
[00:46:59] it's got to break women's hearts to just leave and not do what they're supposed to do and so
[00:47:05] they end up you know go into the doctor and the doctor doesn't understand because of their training
[00:47:11] that they're not living out their true destiny throws them on medication and it's just a cycle
[00:47:17] you know and so i just see as i'm like i want to break that like no and it's okay
[00:47:23] it's okay to be non-traditional i guess in this in this world to go back to the old way
[00:47:30] and like i say there's something about it that just it feels good and i i'm coming from
[00:47:37] that world i mean i worked a lot you know i worked a lot i did anything else right i never thought
[00:47:44] anything up the home life and now that i'm here i'm like well i'm giving this up i'm going to
[00:47:50] have to figure this out because this is this is this is this is life
[00:47:55] out there is an illusion it's the matrix to make you think that that's what we want
[00:48:00] that's what we want to aspire to and i'm like hmm it's been it's been a falsehood
[00:48:06] you know when it looks with a glamour they make it look glamorous you know you're high heels
[00:48:10] and you got your purse and you know you're looking pretty you know and because most days too i'm here
[00:48:15] walking around my house i got a hoodie i got leggings i got my boots on i've got my fleece flannel
[00:48:21] they go up and take care of my chickens and sometimes i'm just like you know what i like just
[00:48:25] being a casual laid back girl i don't have to fit a mold i can just be me oh yeah nice i mean i bet
[00:48:32] there are i bet there are people just like there are certain like certain women just like there are
[00:48:37] certain men who want to be CEOs and who drive themselves completely insane to do it and that's what
[00:48:41] they want to do and that's all they want to do that will would take to that lifestyle of you
[00:48:46] know a more masculine you know take charge sort of business woman kind of thing i just think we
[00:48:52] got in trouble when we were like no every woman supposed to be like everyone absolutely and then
[00:48:59] you gilted the women who chose to stay home yeah what was that about why did that happen exactly
[00:49:07] that's a crazy thing right that's what is instead of you know making them feel good so not only do
[00:49:14] you have the women home or at work that are depressed now the women at home are depressed because they
[00:49:19] think they're not living their other life it's like what a mess has been yeah the love potential
[00:49:26] yeah and i think that as we realize and squash out start to pay attention to like you were saying
[00:49:33] just pay attention to the propaganda noticing these things you know and start to just question turn
[00:49:39] on your critical thinking again i'm not sitting you're saying all i say is right and actor i want people
[00:49:44] to absolutely pray do their own research and and and let god lead them i'm just a messenger
[00:49:52] i'm just like a watchman on the tower just like sound in the alarm of what i've been shown
[00:49:56] and it'll resonate with some and others it won't and that's that's fine because everyone's on
[00:50:00] their own journey and has their own purpose but my i just feel i have to share it because when it's
[00:50:06] when it's revealed and it makes sense and you're kind of confirming it it's it's important yeah sure
[00:50:13] i think the answer is to start for the younger crowd listening not i don't know how many younger
[00:50:19] crowd we have listening but i think that the the idea or the the the answer is uh everything smaller
[00:50:29] everything has to get smaller you know what i mean at you you have to baby steps your way
[00:50:35] not from a from childhood to adulthood but you have to baby step your way into
[00:50:42] the home the relationship the the job all that kind of stuff you know what i mean so that you can
[00:50:49] start life debt free you can start life in a small house together with you know a significant
[00:50:56] other because i think that's critical and then when the time comes and you say oh i'm pregnant
[00:51:02] you could say well we we have plenty money to cover the bills so we can decide do you want to go to work
[00:51:09] do you not want to go to work after do you you know did you ever want to go to whatever you can't do it
[00:51:14] this way there's no way you can give that option to most women nowadays because cars cost too much
[00:51:20] homes cost to you know what i mean everything is so expensive and you're already starting with debt
[00:51:25] so you know you got the downsizing of the American home the downsizing of the amount of vehicles
[00:51:33] i think we have and also probably another big solution and i know a lot of people don't want to hear
[00:51:37] this is you and i moved away from my family so i'm as guilty as anybody else is you need to stay by your
[00:51:43] family because your family is child care bill you know what i mean your parents are your child
[00:51:49] care bill now you go okay well i'm doing 700 a month a week in child care or i'm doing dropping
[00:51:55] them off at moms you know what i mean right and and all that stuff adds up to honey you got to go to
[00:52:01] work like we can't i can't support everything i can't do it on my salary so i think i mean i think
[00:52:07] it's all possible we just have to step back and be like why do i need a house with three rooms
[00:52:13] that have nothing in them right and that's been ever i think it was way back when with the
[00:52:20] supersize fries i started when i was in high school i remember super size and everything was super
[00:52:25] size it was everything got bigger it was like this big you know movement towards big and it was
[00:52:33] like like you say the house even vehicles i mean everything has become just crazy got to have
[00:52:39] right got to have the biggest and and i think you're absolutely right there is something to be said
[00:52:44] for simple simple living and there's peace that comes with it oh there's more happiness that
[00:52:51] comes with it it's not so much the the glitz and glam i mean and i'm a girl so i do like that i'm not
[00:52:58] saying i don't but i'm not going to surrender and to that just because for that little bit of time
[00:53:05] i enjoy it you know and and when there's something more important later on as you get older there
[00:53:12] is something that comes with it if there's anything i can say to like you said the younger crowd
[00:53:16] listen to the wisdom of us you know like there's something to be said for that because if i
[00:53:23] wouldn't know what i know now in my i would have started this in my 20s not when i'm in my 40s
[00:53:28] like i said it's i really do think it's generational for people who are with single parents
[00:53:35] for people who are with parents with college debt they got to be looking they have to be looking
[00:53:40] and going like man paying off all that debt is crazy i'm not doing that you know and now the
[00:53:46] the colleges are also like falling on their faces so i think that's helping too they're all
[00:53:51] collectively falling on their faces and everybody's gone i don't even want to visit that place let
[00:53:58] loans spend four years there they might wind up to considering my class or race to be the one that
[00:54:04] needs to be exterminated this go around so you know you don't get your money back yeah for sure right
[00:54:11] that's why yeah and we've lost the trades you know we've lost uh the the kids coming up
[00:54:19] you know wanting to do you know plumbing or electrical or conference tree right we've lost that
[00:54:27] because it's been again pushed to go have some fancy degree that you you know and i i know a lot
[00:54:35] of people who have received degrees paid huge money and they do nothing that's that degree
[00:54:42] nothing when and fresh out of school i'm like me who actually practiced pharmacy for well
[00:54:46] realized things i said i'm not doing that anymore but there are kids who graduate and they're getting
[00:54:52] jobs just anywhere because their degree is like they pay huge money and it doesn't matter
[00:55:01] so yeah that's wild it's bad way to start things off but it it all leads back to you
[00:55:07] because once you find yourself in that snowball of hell what do you have left can you just give me a
[00:55:15] pill so i can forget about this life i've created can you give me a pill because my anxiety is so high
[00:55:21] that my stomach hurts every day of my life and i can't deal with it you know what i mean you've
[00:55:25] you've buried yourself in so much hell that you're you're at the doctor and you go or at the
[00:55:31] therapist and you're like give me something i need anything i need relief because this life is so
[00:55:37] out of control so maybe that's how we wind up in that situation you know where we're begging for chemicals
[00:55:44] please a chemical the chemical would be easier and i'm sure it is well temporary fix than to
[00:55:50] actually backstep and downsize and pivot i mean i just think that people are looking for the easy
[00:56:01] answer and unfortunately the journey we're on here is you know to make some of those tough
[00:56:07] tough decisions without the chemicals you know just to do it and there's something to be said
[00:56:14] within our DNA when we do that it's something that happens it imprints on us it teaches us we grow
[00:56:22] into who we were designed and created to become rather than you know dull our minds and our experiences
[00:56:31] with the chemicals so it doesn't mean it's easy and we're at where we are we're at we're at today
[00:56:38] here we are you know where we're at a crossroad and you know i think there are going to be some who
[00:56:45] are gonna pay attention to our wise words and say you know what this makes sense i'm gonna pray on
[00:56:51] this and i'm gonna do some research and then there can be others who are gonna you know choose
[00:56:56] choose a different road and it's it's okay it's so it's okay you know at the right time they'll
[00:57:03] you know come to realize or or maybe not you know that they don't need to
[00:57:10] impress anybody but themselves it's their own heart in the end so yeah that's powerful i like that
[00:57:19] so your website is in the description down below what do you have going on over there
[00:57:25] so i have a pma of private membership association which is a health ministry
[00:57:32] and i set that up quite a while ago just because i wanted i always had the heart to want to help people
[00:57:39] um a line in mind body and spirit i feel like exactly what we're talking about today i've gone
[00:57:46] through this journey myself and i've wanted to be available to people who needed help who had
[00:57:53] questions about their medication to what questions about certain complications that have they found
[00:57:59] themselves in and they just want to know do i need a pharmaceutical do i have a way out of this
[00:58:06] i'm not a medical doctor i do not prescribe but it's more like a life coach um a guide
[00:58:14] and again i'm my goal i'm here to encourage and empower people i want people to
[00:58:20] not look at me as well doctor Jen said no no no i don't want i want it to be what people feel
[00:58:27] in themselves i'm just a guide i'm just here to point people in a direction and say try this path
[00:58:33] figure out if it's for you you know and so that's what i do with my health ministry because it is
[00:58:38] a ministry and it's faith oriented and we seek god and his ultimate guidance for people
[00:58:46] i found you over at uh we re linked up over at twitter is that the best place people can hang
[00:58:53] with you on a regular basis i have a few yeah i have twitter twitter i can be a little more edgy
[00:58:59] as you probably know so it's not like my soft side i like to find funny things and edgy things is
[00:59:04] there i can kind of be a little bit more of like a rebel um and i like that because i normally
[00:59:09] am not um so once a while i like to just be a little you know like oh i can twitter brings it out
[00:59:14] of you i'm telling yeah i just crazy to like i actually like it so i do have twitter um i also
[00:59:22] have instagram and instagram is also a little bit um where i can be i have a good mix there
[00:59:28] a little bit of both um and it my instagram it's um dot it's at doctor Jen the people's pharmacist
[00:59:36] so that's my instagram and then i'm also on telegram and telegram was the first uh social media
[00:59:43] platform i had and um that's where i actually you know really focused on being the people's pharmacist
[00:59:50] and the telegram it's at dr vandal water on telegram but on telegram i share my um home
[00:59:58] studying stories i share um you know health tips natural things um more than my body spirit it's
[01:00:07] more the softer side of me that i just it's my it's my favorite because it's really really my heart
[01:00:13] and the people that are there are amazing because they um send me messages all the time and really
[01:00:19] enjoy the things i post and so um that's really you know i had that one for so long too the other
[01:00:25] ones are kind of newer channels but i'm getting around to understanding how that's why i've kind
[01:00:31] of like twitter because i could be edgy and it's just fun to be a little edgy yeah i used to say
[01:00:36] twitter is his hell yeah so many people over there start following us lately i just had to go back
[01:00:43] i just jump in and jump out you know my twitter feed is like a horror show i can't be in there too
[01:00:49] long to ruin my whole day it can be i yeah i learned to scroll past some things and not
[01:00:55] not spend too much time so i just like i have to watch the violent videos i can't get
[01:01:00] oh no no i don't even know what's happening oh they're all over my feet i go in there it's always
[01:01:05] gang violence people getting beat up by seven different people and i'm watching it like what is
[01:01:10] happening oh no yeah it's dark dark over there twitter but uh we want you to come back
[01:01:19] definitely yeah definitely we like your perspective we didn't get too much into into the healing
[01:01:25] aspects of thing i did have somebody in the chat talking about trying to get off a blood pressure
[01:01:30] medications i don't know if you have any advice for that or not but that was our question on sort
[01:01:36] of you know that end of things yeah that's very fit i could tell you a little bit about it
[01:01:42] yeah there's a lot of working out and that kind of stuff so i don't know if there's
[01:01:47] anything out there that herb wise or um yeah there are some herbs i mean hi viscous um
[01:01:55] hi viscous tea maybe incorporate that in the diet and see if that helps a little bit um sometimes
[01:02:04] i'm not you know even being fit um maybe monitor before and after certain workouts
[01:02:10] um but definitely a lot of times blood pressure is also related to anxiety worry and stress
[01:02:18] um we don't realize it so if there's a lot of that happening it's my fault it's
[01:02:24] it's your fault yeah she listens to us all the time
[01:02:27] oh yeah well we don't want to lose her there hey if it's for your health garden girl you're
[01:02:32] gonna have to cut back yeah um but that yeah hi viscous tea is usually very very helpful um and i
[01:02:40] i mean i think definitely monitoring and seeing at different times of the day or when an event's
[01:02:46] happening and the thing about blood pressure is it's not always at one number so if you
[01:02:52] you know if someone doesn't test it often enough you're not going to get an average if you test it
[01:02:58] a certain time every day and you know you're doing it you can have a spike automatically just
[01:03:03] by your own body reacting because you know you're testing it and it's going to go hot
[01:03:07] so blood pressure is not like this constant number that's always the same we want our blood pressure
[01:03:13] to go up if we are in a moment of fear and being chased by a bear right you want to have everything
[01:03:19] working yeah you know yeah so it's not like it's a number that's solid so it's important to check it
[01:03:28] usually the first thing when you wake up is probably when you're going to have a better
[01:03:32] you know idea and then monitor it you know often throughout the day and just kind of get an
[01:03:37] average but if it's high like every reading then you know that it's really definitely high blood
[01:03:44] pressure if it's high once in a while think about what was happening at that time to maybe cause
[01:03:51] that spike yeah and then see deep breathing is another great great thing to do to help blood pressure
[01:03:58] I can speak to that for sure because i sometimes i have mornings that are
[01:04:03] high anxiety high caffeine intake and that's exactly what happens oh i can self-induce some crazy
[01:04:11] blood pressure in my i don't measure it or anything but i can tell i can just feel it but yeah you're
[01:04:17] right good meditative breathing will get it down or usually physical fitness helps me do a little
[01:04:23] bit from time to time but all right Jen I think we did an amazing job tonight this one is live there's
[01:04:31] no way we can make it disappear so whatever you said stands forever i hope you're ready
[01:04:39] well i've enjoyed i've enjoyed talking it's like just like the last time that only you and i know
[01:04:43] about nobody else was able to hear that conversation but i'm happy to come back and if we want to
[01:04:50] you know push it more towards some healing things we can plan on that and happy to share that with
[01:04:56] with you and your audience yeah you've got a good story and i want to definitely want
[01:05:00] to people to know who they're dealing with with this first episode if we get to have you back because
[01:05:05] you know like i said there's a lot of people saying yes you were one of the rare people that said no
[01:05:11] and took your own path you took the road less travel at the fork in the road who's at Robert Frost
[01:05:16] or who is that i can't think but yeah all right cool did a good job thank you thank you no doubt
[01:05:25] we'll see you guys tomorrow Tuesday it's been quiet on Tuesday the rising republic i don't know
[01:05:31] what's going on i got to reach out to swenson see what he's up to but uh enjoy i'll talk to you
[01:05:37] guys tomorrow morning with pb and daily news all right see you thank you for listening to the
[01:05:43] proper broadcasting network where we promote self-reliance and independence tuning tomorrow for
[01:05:49] another great show and visit us at preprabroadcasting.com