Preppers LIVE - with DAVE JONES THE NBC GUY

[00:00:04] You're listening to PBN Welcome to Preppers LIVE, PBN Family, no introductions needed. If you heard my PBN daily news You got the heads up, but we're with Dave Jones the NBC guy and before we hit record we were we were talking the

[00:00:46] first female president of Mexico being Jewish and And what how that's gonna play out that ought to be an interesting tale for Is she a is she a government plant from the US? What do you think? Yeah, I

[00:01:07] You know, I don't know much goes on in Mexico that the cartels don't know about right or don't prove up Yeah, that's the scariest part. Yeah, I'm going into this with a little trepidation But that's the scary part imagine the way things are in the world right now

[00:01:25] If we have a corrupt Jewish woman working hand-in-hand with the cartel Cutting people's heads off. Oh God, that's not gonna help matters in the campuses of higher learning here in the United States on

[00:01:39] Yeah, or the Mexico border or the security of the United States anything. I mean, that's what I'm wondering Yeah, where's she gonna stand on that border shine balm? Is there yeah? Well, it's either gonna be very very good for the United States or very very bad. Yeah

[00:02:02] That's she in her concession speech. She said I want to stress that my recognition of Shine bombs victory comes with a firm demand for results and solutions to the country's serious problems Hmm So what are the serious problems I wonder?

[00:02:23] Well the cartels would be I would think would be the number one serious problem. I mean It Mexico is almost the Marco State. Yeah That's it listen to what Julio Garcia said we're reading from the AP

[00:02:45] Julio said he's a Mexico City office worker. He said he voted for the opposition because of crime Quote they robbed me twice at gunpoint. You have to change direction change leadership the 34 year old said continuing The same continuing the same way we're going to become Venezuela

[00:03:07] Interesting is an interesting point of view at 34 year old in Mexico Yeah Well same thing here and if we don't change your direction what the heck is the United States? Man Yeah, it's so weird. I know you're experiencing this today, but I

[00:03:30] Spent the whole evening with my neighbors more than one and I was walking home from my oldest neighbor on the blocks house because he had a stewardia tree Blooming and I don't have you ever seen one of them, but they're they're beautiful

[00:03:46] And he's a big plant guy big tree guys. So we were talking trees and stuff You know the things you do after 35 that you're embarrassed to say out loud Hang out with other men and talk about trees But

[00:04:02] Anyway, I was walking home and I was like this is so different than what I look at every day You know like the stuff that's happening on the ground level of America right now is So different than What they're doing at the highest level?

[00:04:22] It's like two different worlds Yeah, like you look up at Capitol Hill and you're like all you guys are just gonna destroy everything and then down here on Main Street, it's like You know people are having babies and doing you know all the things planning lives

[00:04:38] You know it's crazy It's I'm sure you feel it the same way because you're in school now And you see real people doing real-life things and then you come home and you're like what the hell is this man doing in the White House? well

[00:04:52] I'm in a Christian school, which is you know pretty much a hundred percent with Trump and You know Biden is an old dodgering fool. Yeah, so we fit perfectly together because I make fun Not on a daily basis almost but oh dear Yeah

[00:05:12] Oh, I bet they did school on Friday Friday. We had the seniors graduation and Last day. Yeah So you'll get to hear a lot more of me on pvn That's sweet. That's good to hear man. You're sending those people out into the world. We need them

[00:05:31] Yeah, we graduated and 10 really good solid one guys going into the Navy and You know so that's that's our contribution Let's hope yeah, let's hope that the rest of The country Contributes Hey, I want to say something to everybody out there

[00:05:57] The pbn family. Thank you for the prayers This morning at four o'clock in the morning Maria's prayers were answered and Her mother passed away quietly peacefully Intersleep without pain and I

[00:06:18] Appreciate the pbn family and and I got I got texts and I got emails from people saying we're praying for Maria's mom appreciate It's a good group man. It's amazing. Yeah, people here at pbn. How's Maria doing?

[00:06:34] She's doing good. I mean her mom has been sick for quite a while And we made the decision a while ago that we weren't going to go to Romania this time and

[00:06:46] It is definitely the best decision. I I don't know if I mentioned this before but I have married into the Jerry Springer family in Romania and No disrespect to anybody on Jerry Springer, okay Yeah, it's It's crazy and better to keep your distance, huh?

[00:07:11] Yes, we went for her dad's funeral which was like a year and a half ago and Was quite the Experience and this this was gonna be even worse. So we

[00:07:25] Decided and we told her before she got really sick and into a coma that we weren't coming and she was okay with it well And she passed away peacefully in your sleep is about as good as it gets man at the end of days

[00:07:40] I tell you that much. I've seen a lot of suffering in old age And man, it can be bad, you know, so that's a that's a blessing Yes And she has Shucked off these mortal coils and she's in a better place and

[00:08:00] We're happy for her. Yeah, that's good man Yeah, that's a good thing there are many ways to get through that door and Yeah, you know going going it peacefully is god. I don't deserve it, but I sure hope it happens to me

[00:08:21] Surrounded by their loved ones, you know, and yeah, I understand Yeah, it does most of my Days are behind me. I have less in front of me than I do behind me so Hey, well looking at averages. I'm almost halfway

[00:08:41] Yeah, I think it's I know no I'm more than halfway. What am I talking about? I'm not 35 anymore Yeah, I'm over half through the race the average Huh? I used to say 50 is middle-aged Because that's halfway between a hundred. Yeah, well the average for men is 74

[00:09:03] Yeah, so I go off the average and just say you know if I get above average and then right on I mean my dad's gonna live above average for sure And my mom probably not but

[00:09:14] So we'll see, you know, I ain't worried about it. They one day at a time You know what? I mean my days are too good to be worried about What's coming in a year two years three years?

[00:09:24] Yeah, well what do you want to talk about death tonight? Yeah, why not? Well, you know, what else is there to talk about but death? You know Larry it's an important topic it is We have dealing we had a whole class in the state trooper Academy

[00:09:50] Dealing with death and we had a pathologist that flew in from Seattle And he had all these slides and pictures and Different ways these people died and how an autopsy brought out how they died a lot of them committed suicide and

[00:10:08] And it was basically, you know, you had to know this kind of stuff And of course the state troopers were the ones that did death notifications You know if someone died in lower 48 what a tough gig

[00:10:26] Yeah, you would go to that person's the next to Ken and and My partner and I went to a house one time and it was an elderly lady answered the door and we said man We have a message for you and and she says oh my gosh

[00:10:43] I've never had a singing telegram. Can you sing it to me? And we looked at each other like well, okay, and we took off our hats and we went Da da da da da da da your sister Rose is dead. No you did not Wow

[00:11:04] Yeah, I mean it's it that's a tough gig first of all that's a job nobody wants wow You know rolling up at the first thing in the morning to tell parents their kids was texting and driving and wrap around a telephone pole. Oh I

[00:11:22] Think an important thing to understand especially if you haven't been involved with death a lot is that they're not They're varying degrees of death and how it affects you You know it's like There are people who die in your life, and you're like oh man

[00:11:41] And then there are people who die in your life and you crumple into a little ball and cry You know what I mean, and then there are people who die in your life, and you're like

[00:11:52] Well on with the next one. You know what I mean is life like that for you I mean you don't fall down and get depressed over every person you ever knew died right? No, and my age most of them are dead already Yeah Yeah, it's a weird thing

[00:12:11] And I'll tell you something else. Here's a user. Here's the real dark one, and this doesn't pertain to shtf death It could very well good, but it's it's It's the darkest of all deaths, and it is The many deaths of addiction

[00:12:30] the many deaths of addiction for anybody who is raising kids or Maybe has someone going down the wrong path or something along those lines There are you watch people who are addicted particularly to drugs and hard drugs opiates and alcohol stuff like that

[00:12:54] They die like many times in your life Because you you have to deal with the death of the person before the addiction. That's death number one You know you deal with that yeah, and you're like well that person's gone the way that I always knew them because now

[00:13:14] The addiction is number one Yeah, you know and then you and then you watch the addiction eat away at them, and they start to lose You know Depending on what it is. It's like they lose

[00:13:27] You know maybe there's sense of humor or whatever it is parts of them that you used to love die Yeah, and the darkest part of the addiction death the many phases of the addiction death is that like

[00:13:40] At least through my experience a lot of times when people die That have been addicted to drugs and survive for a long time You it the worst of all things happens they die, and you're like well I've been expecting it for so long. You know what I mean

[00:13:56] Yeah, because you get fatigued by this incoming like the incoming real death like the incoming fact that this person's not gonna be on the planet anymore But you're also so tangled up in the fact that like

[00:14:10] If I could get away with it, I'd probably kill them so they wouldn't be living this life that they are living because it's so bad So what's on at the bottom? Oh man, and you pity them for And you knew what they were and it's

[00:14:27] It's not that way anymore. Yeah, it's gone It's the many deaths that lead to this feeling less death almost, you know Yeah, and and if you know there's a lot of bullshit out there nowadays about drugs being not so bad and

[00:14:44] Drugs can do really good things for our society and all this kind of shit and man all I can tell you is Better be careful. You better be damned careful out there Yeah, the legalization of marijuana which everyone knows that's the gateway drug

[00:15:05] To everything else and and what exactly does marijuana do to a society? I mean Don't seem to be great Yeah Certainly does is it makes it smell like shit everywhere That's one thing it does I could tell you that from experience

[00:15:26] Well, you probably experience it down there in Richmond a lot more than I ever would up here on the mountain Oh, yeah, you know what's funny though? You experience it most on the road where you're not even supposed to be smoking That's the funny part Dang

[00:15:43] But yeah my to your point The first time my cousin Ryan ever smoked marijuana was with me and my friend John and I don't know if 13 maybe 13 years later something like that. She died finally died from heroin overdose and I mean her life was bananas Dave Jones

[00:16:11] Yeah, I mean I've got a story you wouldn't believe for every year from the time she got addicted to heroin on You know what? I mean it was just that it was terrible of horrible things you could imagine

[00:16:25] Over and over and over and over and the people I mean in that in the family would just be like I Can't believe she's still alive In prison out prison and having babies. Oh my god Yeah

[00:16:38] Yeah, it's brutal man. It's brutal. It is not for the faint of heart Well and the reason I started thinking about this as a subject for tonight is Larry is Listening to one second after and that's the first book. Yeah, and so many people die

[00:16:59] in that story just from You know everything that happens from an EMP blast right the initial the initial fallout basically You can you can argue all day long about you know this and that and that portion of it, but we know There will be massive get oh Yeah

[00:17:23] guaranteed Guarantee well, I'm not even sold on the see. This is what I started thinking about After the last solar storm Yeah, I started thinking Who's to say that people don't die From a massive EMP

[00:17:42] You know what I mean like we know that Carrington event was big and we know that was a thing But who's to we don't know even if like the the impact is at a certain part of the planet We're electrical creatures too. You know what I mean

[00:17:56] Oh, yeah How do we not know that the sheer because the the amount of force or the amount of power It's gonna have to have

[00:18:03] To hit this planet and shut all the power out is gonna be a lot because that was no joke that solar storm we just had So something that big I was thinking about that while everybody was looking at the auroras

[00:18:15] I was like man if it's big enough to shut all power down. I Imagine it's just gonna kill some people outright Like you know well frail old Compromised immunity, I don't know some kind of power surge is gonna happen probably stop somebody's heart. That's not you know um

[00:18:34] Everybody that has pacemaker well that yeah automatic Injections of insulin, okay, there's a lot of things Laters I see you ladders. Yeah more and more we were becoming bionic Where you have something attached to you?

[00:18:56] That's a medical necessity and it's electronic, you know whether you use enough an inhaler And you know one of those aspirators or yeah sleep Nia He did sleep apnea machine. I Think a sleep apnea machine is probably a bad move. I don't know it for a fact

[00:19:20] Anything that props your body up Yeah seems like a like you're weakening your body You know what I mean? Yeah, and all those things that like prop people up it seems to me that it's like

[00:19:35] This is gonna make your body think oh, I don't have to worry about breathing at night because this machine does it Well, it's like the ventilator in COVID, you know, yeah exactly that's exactly what it is It keeps you breathing right, but I was denied long-term care insurance

[00:19:55] Because I've been diagnosed with sleep apnea What you were denied it denied Cannot get coverage and I'm like is sleep apnea killing that many people That's bananas. That seems like a reason why you would get approved

[00:20:13] For long-term care coverage like dude, I need I might need some care. I got problems Yeah, no They I guess they figure I'm not gonna pay premiums enough but I Don't I don't hear people dying of sleep apnea. You know that is so crazy, dude Yeah

[00:20:36] That is bananas. I Worked for two years in the joint personal effects depot Well, they're tough gig Another tough gig but when you were saying about the death notifications so There were death notification officers and then there were casualty Assistance officers. Okay now the death notification guy

[00:21:02] They just go in make the notification and leave okay the casualty assistance officer Comes in and helps the family with everything with you know the insurance the Everything that deals with you know till they're in the grave

[00:21:25] Till they're buried, you know the personal effects everything like that and then and then there was us And we worked at the joint personal effects depot where we processed all the personal effects that came back and The crazy thing about this

[00:21:44] Each person in that chain thought the other person had the worst job Yeah It was crazy. Yeah, we we all thought it was quite an honor You know to be able to provide this service to Someone that had sacrificed everything. Yeah, definitely

[00:22:11] Yeah, when my dad was in the Air Force during Vietnam he He was he didn't go to Vietnam. Thank God but I don't know if I'd be here but He did the Military funeral the what is it the honor guard? I don't know what it's called

[00:22:31] Yeah, the honor guard is that what is the honor guard? Yeah, he did that for everybody They would come back The you know shooting the rifles off and all that business Yeah, I'm sure that was wild Because business was booming Oh, yeah, yeah

[00:22:51] Yeah, but that put it in perspective though. We lost more people last year To drug overdoses. Oh, there you go and we did the whole Vietnam War The ten years of the whole Vietnam War and we lost one year. Yeah

[00:23:13] And we've done that I think at least in for two or three years. Oh Absolutely, we've been in the 90 K's for like two or three years with just with drug overdoses Yeah, I mean so many people are touched by that version of death

[00:23:31] Because there's like, you know, I always look at death as versions and And I don't know hierarchies and stuff. You know what I mean because it's like that. Yeah I don't know why it's like that to me, but it always feels that way, you know

[00:23:45] It's like you can't tell me that like losing your second uncle You barely saw is the same thing as losing your kid. You know what I mean? So there's definitely yeah a hierarchy Yeah, and It's important for people to know that and you know when

[00:24:04] Those times come. Yeah, I don't know though. You know what it seems like and it sucks, but it seems like The people who hold it together During it all are the ones who are the most important in the group. You know what I mean

[00:24:19] No matter what the situation is no matter how close the person is to you It's always seems like somebody will rise to the occasion and hold it together Even the last days and the planning of the last days or whatever it is and that person man is

[00:24:35] Invaluable because a lot of people don't hold it together You know, oh happening families. A lot of people collapse. They just yeah, they can't function Exactly, I mean they don't eat they don't sleep They yeah, they and it you have to recognize this as a thing

[00:24:56] You know in your prepper group because We get the Mad Max And and there's gonna be so many people dead The ones that are left alive There won't be enough of us to bury Yeah, definitely

[00:25:15] Well you left you created that metric in my mind with pandemics and now I apply it to almost everything I apply I apply the metric of If the people around you aren't dropping dead

[00:25:28] Then it's probably not necessarily the time to panic and and I used to think that way just for Pandemics and I've been thinking about that a lot with the H5N1 Yeah, and then I started thinking about it in other ways too

[00:25:43] I started thinking about like what what are some of the metrics you would need to know like This is not regular crime This is not civil unrest on a scale that we're used to

[00:25:57] This is the end of the world as we know it and I think to your point one of those metrics is Oh, uh bill down the street got shot on his way into work yesterday

[00:26:08] And and Sandy got raped and robbed on her way to the you know what I mean? And all of a sudden you know, oh this shit is happening on the block like this. Yeah bad So I like that adage. It's not you know one for one

[00:26:23] It's not exactly the same thing as what you said but the but the theory is good Once the chaos starts touching people who are close to you not people in news articles You don't know that's a really good metric for being like oh Yeah, okay

[00:26:39] time for plan B Yeah, I remember when we talked about this in COVID. Yeah, it was great advice. I thought I Told you well the death the death rate isn't there and You know and then we realized

[00:26:56] What was going on and we we realized pretty early on I think it's because we pay attention to these things we're not The ones that are blinded by The next shiny thing. Yeah Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I'm watching Russell brand. I'm watching a ton of different people

[00:27:20] Have these aha moments and become like insanely Famous and popular and I'm looking around at us and I'm like dude. We were talking about this very four years ago Where are you bit? Yeah, exactly exactly. It's crazy But it's an honor It really is

[00:27:41] Not only is an honor think about what we did for our families and the people who are close to us Because they're still people there's still people scared of COVID

[00:27:52] Yeah, you know what I mean think about how much anxiety we left behind because we did the work early figured it out Realized Fauci was a crook realize this thing came from a lab realized it wasn't gonna kill everybody and all that kind of stuff

[00:28:06] I mean just so much spawned off of it. I would like to search the archives For when I said no G is dead to me Well, I got to sit down one of these weekends and do what you told me to do which is put together the

[00:28:25] COVID journal. Oh My gosh, you know just grab all the corona casts all the old preppers lives and everything all the way back Because we used to do a COVID show every single Monday Every Monday. Yeah, every Monday

[00:28:42] We did a coat first it was a corona cast because it was coronavirus then it became a COVID cast and then it got crazy and became

[00:28:49] Chaos cast because it was all out in the open and we knew it and that was a wild time man. It was so crazy But yeah, we had impact, you know, there was some serious impact had I think for the people around us and

[00:29:05] The listeners of course and all that, you know, I'll never get the day I sent. Oh go ahead Well, I advise people if you have to get a vaccine get the Johnson & Johnson It was the only one that was made like all the other vaccines

[00:29:24] No, I'm already other ones Yep, the other ones were with the spike protein and it was creating a Challenge for your body to produce something. It's now what we're seeing is

[00:29:38] You know sudden death. Oh, yeah, we're gonna look back on it and be like wow, I can't believe Can't believe that happened. I Mean I put we when a crazy moment and I don't even know if my kids were remembered or will appreciate it

[00:29:54] Maybe they will when they're older But we sent our kids to school with no mask on You know once once Junkin came into office. He changed the rule immediately Yeah, and they came back from Christmas break. I think it was and

[00:30:12] Rolled up into school with no mask on and they were they were two of three kids in the whole school I'll never forget that man. It was such a crazy thing and

[00:30:23] For weeks Dave Jones for weeks and then then you know, maybe after about two to three weeks You started to see the masks come off Yeah, start hitting all it's like five kids and it was like nine kids and you know what I mean

[00:30:38] Yeah, and now the only people that were in with the parents figure that out Yeah And it's just crazy when they when I saw the videos of these kids running black meats When masks oh and collapsing and I'm like what is going through these people's mind

[00:31:00] You know, it's full sunshine It's bright hot sunny day. Right this virus is not gonna survive You know and you're running Yeah With a paper bag over your mouth Yes, you might as well just to put the chloroform on the mask good luck out there. Yeah

[00:31:28] Right Dave why are they still wearing masks man? What's going on? They probably don't do it in your neck of the woods, but they wear them Every once in a while you'll see some people we saw two

[00:31:40] Leaving Costco's parking lot. They're in their car in the video in the vehicle It makes you want to jump in front of the car and get yourself run over it. You can't comprehend it Yeah, what are you doing in the car with the mask?

[00:31:56] It doesn't work when you're in front of someone So what's the point of wearing it in the car? Oh Man it's crazy, but you know what you know what though to bring it all back It's a fear of death

[00:32:13] You know what I mean, you know, that's what that's the power of Death the power of death will make you put two masks on and a cloth mask over top of it Yeah, I remember proud you with that one remember that Yeah

[00:32:30] That's what it'll do. Yeah fear of death will make you put 16 shots of an experimental vaccine with mRNA coursing through it into your body yeah And people think well at least I'm doing something You know what I mean? Yeah. Oh, yeah

[00:32:48] Yeah, sure if you want to do something that's effective don't go downtown Yeah, but that's what happens when you're not a prep or two True or when you're not doing anything To actually make a difference in your own life

[00:33:04] Then you feel like well, I gotta wear six of masks because that's the only way I know how to make a difference You know what I mean? Yeah, if you're stacking if you have your stacking food and water and antibiotics and you're like

[00:33:16] Now we're gonna be all right because I'm working doing these things Then you don't say I gotta wear 17 masks and get 30 shots to make a difference He said we've made a difference. We'll stay right in this house if it gets bad, you know Yeah

[00:33:30] And that's what a lot of people did I think that's a lot of the reason that people are still protests I think a lot of this protest stuff comes down to that day. It comes down to people who are

[00:33:43] Looking for anything to do other than the hard work they have to do To start their life Yeah, I think a lot of it is that I start every day with a list of to-dos and

[00:33:57] Some days I hit the hardest stuff the deep writing stuff right off the bat with the coffee and just go in and focus And then some days I hit the emails first the easy stuff I put music on you know what I mean Yeah, yeah

[00:34:12] I just feel that same vibe from these kids that are telling us that they love, you know, Palestinian so much I just feel like they're looking out under the world and saying damn now. I have to I have to make a life now

[00:34:25] Like I'm out of school. I'm out of college now. I have to do the hard stuff and make an actual life What better it would be if I could sit in this park with my friends and smoke pot and hang out in tents

[00:34:36] And scream at night and fight the police You know way better than paying back these damn loans Yeah I called it uh, what did I call? I made a I made a meme picture of it that I'm almost scared to put uh

[00:34:53] Put up because it's a little mean But I started calling it distractivism Yeah, distractivism distractivism I'm an activist to distract myself away from the fact that it's time to do life and i'm not ready Yeah I don't know

[00:35:12] That was a tangent to far far past death. I guess but Oh, no, definitely and you know, um Something that a lot of people don't know is That a on a military unit Is considered effective if they have 60 strength They are considered combat effective at 60 percent so

[00:35:44] You know, what's that other 40 percent? acceptable casualties Yeah injured or dead Yep, exactly or sick. I guess Incapacitated out of the fight for whatever Yeah Yeah, that's wild That's wild But that yeah, that's that that's that mindset that you taught in your classes

[00:36:12] Yeah, you know about acceptable casualties That is an important part about the on the concept of death and shtf is the whole security You know self-defense stay in fight retreat that whole sort of mentality, you know

[00:36:29] Yeah, the moment you're healing you're gonna be probably coming pretty close with to you know face to face with death Well, yeah, either yours or someone that you love right Right because they're not just gonna Shoot at you. They're gonna shoot at everything. Right

[00:36:48] Of you have to be able to assess a situation quickly and Here's the thing, you know, you talk about the hierarchy of Preparedness, you know at the bottom is people that don't have anything The next level up is people that may have a gun

[00:37:08] The next level up people that may have a gun and may have some training The next level up people that may have a gun may have some training and may have good, you know

[00:37:21] Weaponry and ammo and stuff like that. So by the time you get to the top of the pinnacle of this pyramid Those are the people with laser sights night vision body armor And they've done all the training so you have to assess

[00:37:42] What situation are you in if you see a bunch of lasers coming at your position at night? You you you got to go. Yeah Yeah, and and good luck with that even I hope you see them from far away. That's all I could say

[00:38:04] Or you know infrared emitters if you got your night vision on and you see a bunch of infrared emitters Get the hell out Yeah Yeah, yeah, that's that is the truth though. I mean and I don't know everybody who listens to pbn but It is you see people

[00:38:26] And you know that there are people I don't know what the percentage is, you know But there's a percent of people out there who are just It doesn't matter probably how many people you have

[00:38:37] You know what I mean if you're if you're somewhere in the middle of that hierarchy Yes, with your training and your weapons There's like a group of six to eight guys Who can make me meet out? Yeah, and way more equipped. Yeah, yeah

[00:38:55] Exactly capability that you just can't even wrap your head around, you know, and then you have like On top of that then you have sort of like the overwhelming force From financially well off people

[00:39:11] You know what I mean like like just people who are like I got you know all the food all the money All the weapon or whatever and and we're just going to throw people at

[00:39:20] At the whatever we want. We're going to throw a bunch of people at it, you know So now it's it's 50 people rolling into the neighborhood. You know what I mean and stuff six well trained guys And that's a whole nother right there then going back to the

[00:39:38] One second after The big battle Was at the end And it was it was these people that that's all they did They went from community to community and killed and stole What they needed to get to the next community And and that was the big battle, you know

[00:40:02] Not for any spoilers or anything but right And I I see that as being a pretty logical Progression yeah, people will come together out of necessity Because you remember in the book they Um, I think they captured someone and they said Why did you join this group?

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[00:42:06] I really like this concept dave jones and I think there's something important to talk about in terms of What Hang on one second The thing about those groups that's interesting is uh

[00:42:31] And they show up in a lot of fiction and a lot of movies and stuff like that The thing that always interests me about is I how do you fight attrition? With a big group

[00:42:42] You know what I mean? Yeah, how do you fight attrition and how do you deal with the the Uh, what's it called the mutiny and all that kind of stuff? Yeah Because I think that that's a huge responsibility And you would know better than most

[00:43:00] If you have 25 guys 50 guys Yeah, and and you don't have any Resupply in terms of food and water and you've got a right, you know sustain that That's a lot I mean I use a cater so I look at everything through that lens, but you know you've been

[00:43:20] Around military age men Who are hungry? I'm sure and you know what fun that could be Yeah Well, you'd have to rule it with uh, you know an iron fist for sure Whoever was on top

[00:43:38] Had to be on top and stay on top. Yeah. Well, that's where the attrition comes in Because people who disobey they're gonna be killed. So now you're losing body. So you'd have to recruit

[00:43:50] You know what? I mean you'd have to have some sort of recruiting apparatus as you went through these communities And say, you know like I won't kill your wife and your kids if you come with me Yeah

[00:44:02] Well and you know that's also hit and miss, you know in sarah's fiction Uh, they're creating fighters Yeah, that's true. That's true. It's a good way to look at it. Yeah, they're training them and creating them In in real life

[00:44:22] If you don't come across the guy and it's a very small percentage You know, I always tell you know i'm part of the 1% The Less than 1% Yeah, the question that has served in the military. So If you don't have those guys or cops, you know tactics someone that

[00:44:47] Can hold a group or train a group, you know Your bullet catchers will will outnumber your proficient guys, right And yeah Yeah, you know that would be an awesome story Dave is an EMP from the point of view of a military operation abroad

[00:45:13] A u.s. Military operation abroad maybe even a whole military base in like iraq You know, what's the k? What's the base in k? It's good starts with k Yeah

[00:45:26] Koresh or cut. I don't know. I can't think that but there's the military base in iraq and it would be that would be a crazy story You know the EMP hits Everything's out the men in the base understand that they're there for the long haul

[00:45:42] And yeah, there's no rescue. Yeah, so they had basically two choices. It's like Like we have to become the warlords ourselves. We have the equipment or at least some of it

[00:45:54] Yeah, or we wait for the Taliban and ISIS and all them to figure out what's going on and power up and come kill us all Who would have a fun one? It would be for the patchy of the Bronx, you know

[00:46:11] Yeah, that would be a good story. That'd be fun That'd be a fun one for sure So yeah, I mean the I guess it'd probably be worth having a plan slash resource if you don't already for uh

[00:46:28] Getting through the deaths of the people you love, you know, not everybody's lost people yet that mean the world to them And uh, people take it differently. You know people take it differently and you gotta

[00:46:40] You gotta have some kind of a plan for it when it happens if it starts to happen Yeah, you know the other thing that happens too is people disappear in the face of all that You know, it could be somebody that you count on tremendously

[00:46:56] Um in regular life this happens Yeah, and it could be someone you count on tremendously for security in your In your survival community or whatever an essential person and you know You know Sometimes when people fall ill and they're getting close to death

[00:47:14] Some people just have to go away like they don't want to be a part of it. They don't want to be near if they can't deal with it Oh, yeah, and what? Yeah, they become

[00:47:25] Combat ineffective. Yeah. Well. Yeah that yeah, that's one way to look at it for sure Yeah Yeah, you gotta have game plan And that's not even talking about what to do once people once death crosses over from you know, the souls out of the body

[00:47:42] And now you got to deal with the body Yeah, you know, I know at four to two ranch we have uh I hate to say this But we have plans for incineration. Well, you gotta have them though. I mean, it's good that you have those plans

[00:48:00] That's the sign of an operation that's thought things through Yeah, you know not not living on like disney pixie dust nobody's gonna die. So why worry about that? You know, well it answers a bunch of different problems because Uh, if you have a place where you bury someone

[00:48:22] Then people go there to mourn If you burn a person to ashes Wherever those ashes go You know, oh, yeah. Yeah. It's less of a obstacle Or an impediment to the larger group Well, I also think it's important because they're mobile and you're at fortitude ranch

[00:48:49] Yeah, you know, you might be from manhattan And you go to you go to fortitude ranch new york for three years And you three years time someone you love dies there But then things are coming back to normal and you're gonna head back to manhattan like

[00:49:06] You don't want to drive all the way out to a cemetery in fortitude ranch New york and the casket. I mean the uh, what the hell those mountains called? I can't think of it And then, you know

[00:49:19] That's where your loved one lays to rest at least with ashes. You could put them in an urn and carry them With you Yeah, and it's also more sanitary. I mean you you start burying dead bodies Animals could come dig them up if you don't do it right

[00:49:35] You know, that's a lot of work. Yeah And there's no embalming, you know, there's no preservation. They're gonna rot Yeah, that's a lot of work Especially if you start, you know people start dying a lot

[00:49:48] Like how many men do you have to commit to six feet holes in the ground? Yeah You know, that's no joke Wow, this has been an extremely dark episode What did you think would come out of death? You know you know I mean

[00:50:09] Every book has a beginning and an end. Yeah It is the story of life. Oh it is Everybody deals with that ending differently, that's right. Yeah I wrote a poem in darker trails and making the metaphor of life like the closing of like a book and uh

[00:50:34] The best question I could come up with in that poem was who turns the pages You know, that's a question worth asking yourself And your own story and your own book of life. Who's turning the pages?

[00:50:52] You know because we have a bunch of different a bunch of different beliefs and a bunch of different motivations and a bunch of different vices You know, and maybe maybe the answer to that question Dave Jones is that

[00:51:05] Different things and different people are turning the pages of your life at different times. That could be true Oh, yeah Yeah Your kids that you're taking care of Oh, yeah, and once they grow up and leave the nest. Yeah, I'm not ready

[00:51:24] You talk about you talk about the many deaths Yes who You know, childhood is nothing but deaths If you look at it the way I look at it, you know Yeah, well, I started thinking about it last summer at uh, I was in

[00:51:42] The outer banks and I drove by I was on a bike and I was biking by this house that we stayed at um Two years before Oh, you know, you know, and I'm looking at it. I'm thinking like man, Jake was this age and Carter was this age

[00:51:59] And I started thinking like Not literally but metaphorically if I could go dig through that driveway and find a piece of one of them from back then Yeah, you know what I mean? And then and then I started thinking, you know those those faces Uh

[00:52:16] Of six year old Carter and two year old Jacob they're forbidden on the planet now You know what I mean? Like they're gone. It's over And then you start breaking it down to like every day

[00:52:30] Like every day is that you know, it's over like today everything we did everything that was said The memories and moments of today gone Oh, yeah, and you can't remember it all No, this is crazy

[00:52:47] We had the graduation and one of the things we did was have each one of the families uh do a Like a picture collage Of the senior that was graduating. I'm crying Yeah, it was fantastic. Oh, yeah, I'm to see these little tykes and the one

[00:53:10] One of the students had been at legacy from kindergarten all the way to graduation And that was unbelievable Yeah Oh, man, it's crazy. It's so crazy Kids are make I don't know, you know, you you did it a long time without kids, you know

[00:53:35] You have you have a lot to tell me because I just don't understand it. I don't understand What it's what life would be like without them Do you know what I mean? Oh, yeah Yeah

[00:53:51] Well motivations and the get up every day and do this stuff and look forward to what and You know the growth I mean, you know that the like the change and growth that comes from kids is it's Immeasurable. There's no other force like it

[00:54:08] Even like a nagging wife can't push you the way that your children can push you and they don't even have to nag you Oh, exactly It's a whole another dimension it's a universe That is totally opposite If you don't have kids, I mean It will bring things

[00:54:32] Oh, I say this all the time because I had Deanna when I was 50 and And now she's two years away from graduation Uh, I don't know if I'll be able to hold it together. I don't blame you. I wouldn't be able to I won't be able to Yeah

[00:54:51] Yeah, I won't be able to I went through fifth grade graduation for god sakes and was crying like a baby Like Because I know it, you know, I know the inevitable is coming Yeah, it's in it's inevitable and you want it

[00:55:06] You know what I mean? It's exactly what you want. You don't want them to stay You can't be like dude, I just hang out with me till you're 50 Let's just do all the one of those right now. Oh, there you go. You see the downside of that, right?

[00:55:22] Yeah, it wears off, right Yeah Yeah, I mean that's the thing about individuality that people need to understand You know, we're so big on grouping people up You know women have these problems men have these problems straight people have these problems gay people white people black people

[00:55:42] What is what always helped me with that? And I would say it on my show a lot when I was just doing I am liberty is Like a man with kids and a man without kids aren't even the same thing

[00:55:55] No, you know what I mean? Like they're not even the same No And I'm sure it's the same with women. It's got it. I mean, it's probably even worse with women

[00:56:04] A woman with kids compared to a woman who never had kids they might as well be two different species I agree And there's no way you can even if you're like have a real close relationship with a

[00:56:18] Neese or nephew, there's no way you can mimic wake up every day and there's a thing in the house That needs you Right and it has a future and you're responsible for it up until a certain point. I mean, you just it changes everything Yeah

[00:56:34] So when you when you see people getting wrapped up on their identity politics We're not even the same thing when we're the same thing Yeah, you know what I mean? It's just I know the reality of it and then a person that has You know one kid or

[00:56:54] One sex of a kid. Oh, yeah. Well, that's a great point too. You can even yeah, you can even break it down further from that Right? My brother-in-law had twins Oh, yeah, imagine that boot camp first kids first kids ever twins

[00:57:14] Find out what's causing that and stop it Well, they're having another one and it's a uh, it's just one boy Oh, okay. So something happened to put an end to it That's funny But yeah, yeah, you're right. There are categories within categories within categories, you know

[00:57:32] God, we got to get back to that Dave Jones. We got to get back to Individuals and individual freedom man this this group think this this gang This gangs of new york mentality that we have in this country right now is so dumb And boring

[00:57:51] Yeah, you know, it doesn't even inspire greatness out of these people who are so passionate about being whatever it is They're passionate about being you know, yeah, whatever issue it is Just boring It was something I've been thinking about lately And it's uh, prepper related

[00:58:13] is uh shotgun shells And I don't know why but I have a terrible craving for a double-powered shotgun And I I don't need it Just want it just want to double barrel any particulars Sawed off pistol grip Just a double-barreled shotgun Okay, here's so I've been going to

[00:58:41] Walmart and getting regular the cheapest shot you can find and you can get like a hundred rounds of like clay shot to shoot clays for $70 $78 So that's less than a dollar a round right And there are ways that you can put a slug in this

[00:59:06] by putting the top off and Putting a lead slug you get a slug mold Uh a lee slug mold for 40 bucks and you can get lead just about anywhere wheel weights um You know, you can use a shot that you even take out of the the other show

[00:59:28] Just melt it down Yeah, and then you can make these slug rounds Which I'm telling you No one I mean even if they have body armor it would be like getting hit with a car Okay, they're they are gonna think twice

[00:59:49] If they get hit with a slug and they are gonna run away yelling for mommy So why the double barrel slug over something that holds like you know Five or something along those lines Oh, I was just thinking of a cheap way to to make

[01:00:08] Better shotgun shells. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, so the the the double barrel doesn't have anything to do with the Execution it's just a cool thing you want Yeah You could put uh shot shells back in You just have to have a crimper a thing that crimps

[01:00:28] Or you put a like a cardboard cap. That's the way it used to be when I was growing up Uh, there was like a cardboard cap In the end of shotgun shells to hold the shot in there

[01:00:41] So, I don't know that I've only ever seen the plastic crimp Yeah Hover burrs they run around, uh, I don't know 40 50 bucks So yeah, the shotgun is the most underrated weapon in the tactical and prepping world today

[01:00:58] You know, it really is you hardly hear anybody talk about shotguns. You never see them used in tactical video games. Nobody's ever whipping out a Shotgun and being like let's test this baby out and see you know what I mean? Let's put a site on it. Let's

[01:01:14] It's so underrated they're monsters Yes, they are in close quarters. There's no substitution. Yeah, I mean around for round an ounce for ounce A shotgun a pump Shotgun will put more lead in the air faster than a submachine gun Yeah, that's awesome That's awesome and

[01:01:38] I mean most shotguns you're not even gonna have to worry about like ar 15 jams or semi automatic handgun jam Right, you know what I mean? So it's They're awesome I mean they're they're definitely on my tier list like top

[01:01:55] Probably probably the second gun I would buy if I started all over again Would be a shot would be a 12 gauge Yeah, it has such versatility those slugs you can hunt deer with I mean, uh, you you can hunt bird with them. You can

[01:02:12] I mean start fires with them Right, right. There there are signaling things with shotgun shells You know that even if you just had a primer Inside a shotgun shell You you have a trip wire And it makes a bang. Yeah. Yeah, I've seen those there. They're cool

[01:02:35] Little pin hits the primer. Yeah Yeah, yeah, it's an amazing weapon and then you get you know, how many different types of shot on top of it all You can store. Yeah Yep Yeah, no Great weapon awesome highly underrated been given over to the uh

[01:02:55] You know the the picatinny rail and all the little doodas and goo gads and goo guys that you can stick on one of those lights and sights The amount of training you need with a shotgun. Yeah, that's a great point

[01:03:08] Compared to an AR if you give someone that has never fired a weapon before A shotgun they can be effective. Yeah Yeah, that's a great point. That's a really great point when you talk about prepping and prepping with people

[01:03:26] And some people you might be prepping with have no clue about guns Yeah, say all you got to do is point this And you'll get in shoot I used to have this saying when we were in bag dead

[01:03:40] I said man you guys you you know because I was with Special forces navy seal all that kind of I was surrounded by those guys I said I want shotguns and hand grenades Burial weapons. That's what I want Yeah for real Yeah devastating power Yeah

[01:04:03] What else david we done it? I think we've done it but for whatever it's worth. It's on my mind. That's what i'm doing right now That's my proper tip go get some Shotgun shells and convert them into something that's

[01:04:19] You can really use yeah, and maybe play around with What else you can stuff inside them babies? You know they got everything you I mean they got shotgun shells with everything in them It's like you could to your point you could scavenge your way Into a load

[01:04:39] Whatever it is Right. Yeah, I mean you could you could essentially make a scrap metal load Yeah Well in rock salt, you know that they used to have rock salt and that was considered like non-lethal Because it was little grains of salt and they would penetrate the skin

[01:05:00] Far enough and they would burn like crazy Yeah, we grew up playing on the train tracks. My parents always used to tell me On top of don't play on the damn train tracks. They would tell me If they see you they're gonna shoot you with the rock salt

[01:05:17] Never stopped us. We never saw anybody with a rock salt gun either, but I remember the stories Yeah Well, all right pbn family we came in here with uh intentions of talking death We talked some death. We talked some covet. We talked some life Some kids Some shotguns

[01:05:39] I don't know that's a good prepper show if you ask me I'll say Well, Dave Jones, it was a pleasure my man Always a pleasure to have you on for an hour and see what's going on in your mind They're pretty scary, huh?

[01:05:55] No scarier than what's between my eyes, dude. I promise you that All right pbn family till next time folks We'll see it's been preppers life Take care Thank you for listening to the prepper broadcasting network where we promote self-reliance and independence

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