The Rising Republic: J6 and Pardons Chatter

[00:00:05] I don't want to set the world I learned about kids jumping on my lap, and I've loved kids jumping on my lap. To chase, at least for a moment, Trump and the maggots off the stage. The fact is, we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest, or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they'd go kill some Americans?

[00:00:33] What difference at this point does it make? We are the Prepper Broadcasting Network. Welcome everybody to The Rising Republic. It's your boys, L. Douglas Hogan. And Ryan Buford. Thanks for joining everybody. Hey, how's it going Ryan? What's been going on with you last week?

[00:01:03] Sorry, last couple of weeks, right? We had Christmas. Yeah, Christmas and getting ready for New Year's, priming everything. You know, I've been working on some projects at home to take advantage of the indoor weather and try and tackle some of the things on the honeydew list. But all in good fun. Lots of hard work never stops at my house. So... Does Santa bring you anything worth talking about? You know, actually my son Colin just dropped off my Christmas present here not too long ago.

[00:01:32] And, um, cause he was, he's been house sitting for someone who's got a ranch nearby and he's been taking care of their animals for him and stuff. But he got me a, uh, a diesel heater for my shop, which is, uh, awesome because I, it connects to a 12 volt, 12 volt source. And I have big plans to wire that up with a trickle charger from a solar panel for my well pump in my pump house.

[00:01:58] Because if it freezes, we gotta, or yeah, if we got a power outage and it's really cold out, um, I gotta keep that pump warm. Um, so this, it's an awesome backup. Awesome sauce. I think... Yeah, what about you? Well, I got some, my wife was thoughtful and the kids as well and got me some, uh, some stuff to keep me, uh, warm this, uh, this Christmas or this actually this winter season. And my wife bought me a nice little tactical light that she put in my, uh, stocking. Uh, she said it wasn't that much, but it's probably the coolest light that I've had.

[00:02:27] It's got, uh, an SOS strobe on it. It's got like police, uh, lights that flash red and blue on the side when you press and hold the button. And it's got, uh, I mean, the beam when you, it's got the high beam on it. It's like, I don't know how many thousands of lumens it is, but, uh, did you pull, you pull out on it and it like focuses almost down to a laser beam point. So it gets like, um, it looks like it almost started a fire. If I put it on something, some glass or mirror or something. Yeah. I like it. But yeah, I got some goodies. Of course she got me some, she got me black ops six. You know, I put on my PlayStation.

[00:02:57] Oh, nice. Yeah. Gotta play those war games. Right. Right. Just odds and ends. It's good stuff. My mom got me, uh, like a backpack tool tool bag. Um, so that's cool. I can, cause I always got projects around the property. I just throw some goodies. Usually I'd be putting everything in a box and kind of running it around. She saw me one time when I came over to her house to do a project, I had a bunch of stuff in a box. So, and that stuck with her. So she bought me this tool bag backpack. I was nice. Yeah.

[00:03:24] So I'm just going to throw my tools in that and then, uh, haul them over nice and conveniently. And of course it's easier to carry since they're strapped on your shoulders. Right. And you got your hands free. Hands are free. And then it's got, it's like, you can stand it upright too. So that's cool part. Like, like, like a portable tool toolbox, but just a little bit more flexible. Yeah. It's, uh, it's kind of interesting. Even as an adult, I still enjoy getting the fun little things here and there.

[00:03:53] And, you know, as much as I like giving stuff, it's always nice to get a little something from somebody who thinks about you, you know? Yeah. I'm not sure if the, that kid of me, as far as receiving presents will ever, ever go away. I don't know. That's what they call the Christmas spirit. And most of all, I like, I like buying things for people too. And, you know, just seeing them light up for, it's not the giving part. And that's falls big on me. I know as a kid, it wasn't that much. It wasn't like that.

[00:04:19] Cause as a child, of course, yeah, you know, I only wanted presents, but as an adult, I'd like to see other people light up when I get them something thoughtful. Exactly. That's huge. So what are we talking about today? Well, we got some, there's been a lot of, uh, January 6th stuff happening lately. And, um, I guess, I guess some, some people are coming out. Uh, you know, how, you know, Jim Acosta from CNN.

[00:04:45] Like there are some people that just won't open their eyes. Like this, this, you could call a red wave if you want to, you can call anything you want. Like, but when you break down the United States by County, the 2024 election results by County, it's clear that, uh, America is tired of the woke nonsense. They're just tired of it. They're tired of, especially small town America. Yeah. Which is most of America.

[00:05:15] I mean, it's, it's grand. Yes. We're spread out. Those are the people with, with the conservative values, the ones that aren't living the city life. They're just spread out across the United States. But it's like that, that says, suffocating, um, red blooded Americans for so long. The, the woke ism, you know, the, the kangaroo court system, the law fair against Trump, you know, and, and there's these different ones who just won't let it down. It's like Jim Acosta is one of them.

[00:05:44] And of course you got the people from the view and these different ones, but it's like they almost double down because no matter, they won't, they'll never do their own digging, their own evidence finding. If they, if, if they get their source from the Biden administration, for example, to them, it's as good as gold. They don't need a second source it. They don't need, you know what I'm saying? It's just, this is the gospel truth. If they get it from another, you know, say a conservative or Republican side, they want to double, triple, you know, quadruple source.

[00:06:13] Uh, they want to not even run the story. If it's something that might, you know, make their, their team look bad, they won't even run it. There's so much stuff that they just hide. And there is such a thing as the left wing slam for fact checking even. So if people go to Snopes, for example, I mean, it has an obvious left lean to it. And, and I mean, if people are like, oh, well, that's not true because Snopes said, well, if you really start digging down, you realize that there's a lot more to these things. Yeah. You just can't.

[00:06:43] And that's one, that's something, you know, here's, here's what's amazing. We have this, this thing called C-SPAN and so much of this stuff, like C-SPAN is pretty much running all the time. Yeah. They got cameras set up on the congressional hearings, you know, everything that's public, it's running all the time. It's always live streaming. It's always on. And a lot of the stuff that's, that's crazy to me, that's being run right now as news.

[00:07:05] I heard years ago, you know, in, in these hearings and that's how you stay informed because when, right after J6 happened, you hear these witnesses talk and you hear how the videos were manipulated because the original videos they submitted, they were like edited. And they also even had sound. Well, come to find out when you, and you won't hear this on the news. You won't see it on CNN, you won't see it on MSNBC.

[00:07:32] But what, what came out later was that those, those videos that at the Capitol building don't even record sound at all. They're just, they're nope. They're just video. They're just video, strictly video. That's it. No sound. And so what you get then is once they add audio to it, they have manipulated the video. Okay. And so it becomes inadmissible at that point as evidence because it's been, it's been edited. Oh.

[00:07:58] And that's, but, but see that this is the Liz Cheney stuff that's starting to come out right now that people are just starting to hear about. That she has talked to witnesses that she's been, you know, leading them, if you will. Getting them to, to telling them what to say, kind of coaching them and their testimonies and stuff like that. All that stuff is just coming out.

[00:08:19] But as you watch this stuff unfold live on C-SPAN, it's like, okay, so you're informed and you're like, you can't, it's hard to, it's hard later on down the road. Whenever CNN releases, well, this is what happened January 6th. I knew, I don't know how many months ago or years ago now at this point that there were a human, what do they call them now? They're not called FBI agents. They're, they're called human resources. I think human intelligent resources that they have on the ground.

[00:08:47] So at the time they were saying, they were saying no. Yes. Cause they swore under oath. No, there's, we don't have FBI agents on the ground. Well, no, they didn't. Cause they're not called agents. They're called humans, human, uh, human intelligent resources. I believe is what, what the term is. And so by saying, no, we don't have FBI's on the ground. They're not lying under oath. They're telling the truth. They do have assets, FBI assets on the ground as, as human intelligent assets or human intelligence resources, however you want to call it.

[00:09:17] But they weren't FBI agents. And there was 26 of them. And I knew that there were several back then, because as you're watching C-SPAN and they're talking about this, they're putting pictures up. It's just not, it's just not all talk. They have, they put up these poster boards and they talk about timelines and questionable figures that were there. People they know are not conservatives. This is all comes out live on C-SPAN, but it's like CNN doesn't pay attention to that. And they know that most Americans don't stay glued in front of their television watching this kind of stuff.

[00:09:45] And so it doesn't come out until sometime later, uh, through these, um, inquiries, if you will. Uh, it's like, but the impeachment queries, they want to cover all the time. Right. Oh yeah. So, cause it's big news. I mean, you gotta justify the narrative. And yeah, exactly. And it's also something that's against their, their, their opponents. Yeah. And it's, I mean, it's weird because I always loved walking into, uh, it was weird to me.

[00:10:09] I didn't understand it at the time, but when I was younger, like out of high school, one of my favorite places to shop was the army surplus store. Right. And there'd always be a guy with rabbit ear TV sets in the back. And he had usually a, um, maybe like a Vietnam history channel kind of thing running, but he also had speed. C-SPAN and whatever was going on. And, you know, he added, he was just watching it in the background or listening to it in the background.

[00:10:37] But, uh, and of course the closed circuit seat TV, I'm sure of security with around the perimeter of the facility or whatever. But it was kind of interesting to me because it's like, well, the only people that are actually paying attention to this stuff are people who are paying attention to everything. You know, pattern recognitionists, so to speak, you know, people like us. Right.

[00:10:59] But I mean, here we are and we're like ahead of the curve in a lot of these cases because we see through this stuff because we can actually look at these things objectively or say, be like, oh, you know, this is coming down the pipe. I wonder how this is going to get spun. Then when you see the spin, you can make, uh, an actual, um, what do you call it? What's, what's the word I'm looking for? Opinion. Exactly.

[00:11:22] An informed opinion based on what you saw as fact and what, how the media is portraying it or spinning it, so to speak. Well, I was on, you know, I got some social media and I got on TikTok at one point and somebody was on there saying something about, uh, noise, Republicans being noisy or something like that. And of course it was, it was, had something to do with January 6th. And so I got on there because a lot of times I just have problems keeping my mouth shut. And so that's why I have this platform, right?

[00:11:51] And so I got on there and I made a comment about, you know, a true MAGA is, is, is not noisy and clamorous, but, uh, quiet and passive and humble and victory. And something along those lines of, oh my God. And then the liberals are attacking it about you. And of course, January 6th, their battle cry. It's always a battle cry. And in, in, in back of my mind in something, I'm just, and every once in a while, I get on there. I just post something like to blow their minds, like 26 or like what's 26? What do you mean by that?

[00:12:22] Well, I know what I'm saying, but they don't. And so I want them to do their own homework. So what's 26, January 6th, 26. And maybe they'll, it'll encourage them to get on there and then look up what's 26 have to do with January 6th. Well, it's because there was 26 insurgents that were not Republican or, you know, not MAGA. They were put in there to cause problems, to cause chaos, to, uh, to lead, um, an insurgency, if you will, against the Capitol building. Uh, that kind of thing. And then there's other comments I'll get on there and make like, uh, you don't watch C-SPAN, do you? That kind of thing.

[00:12:51] You know, just to gig a little bit, cause I know that they don't. Yeah. And I, I mean, the C-SPAN has been around since the eighties and I mean, it's just, it's one of those things where it's like, yes, this is. And this, if you think about it, that is how the government is able to say that whatever is happening behind these closed doors, so to speak, is made available and accessible to the public. The thing is, is people think that what actually happens behind closed doors is what is being preached by the media.

[00:13:21] And that is not necessarily true. Not at all. The, and, and unfortunately it's so dry that it's really hard to parse through some of that information and find out what's actually useful or what's something that's pertinent or how this is going to affect somebody in the past, future, past, present, or future. You know what I mean? Right. So you have to understand some of the context of the bills that are going through, the comments that are happening and stuff like this. So people that right now are paying attention, which is great.

[00:13:51] And I think it's, it's kind of changed the dynamic of what's happening in those chambers today, far more than what was going on in the sixties, seventies, eighties, even nineties. So I have like a, like this is, I don't know if you know who Tim Burchett is. Okay. Tim Burchett is an American politician, U S representative from Tennessee. He's been in there since 2019. Okay. So what I'm going to play here is a soundbite from CNN.

[00:14:18] And of course this is Jim Acosta and yeah, Jim Acosta and him. And we'll just listen to this audio here. Do you think there should be a criminal investigation to the Liz Cheney, one of your former colleagues? If she broke the law, why should she be exempt? If, if I guarantee if Manu Raju or, or, or, or you broke the law, you all be, they drag y'all into court in, in chains. And why should she be exempt? You don't think Liz Cheney broke the law, do you?

[00:14:46] If she manipulated this thing, if she met with people, if she coached them as they're saying, if she talked to them on a secret, uh, website, which they're saying she did. If she coached them, if she, if she altered evidence, if she withheld evidence, then she broke the law. What's the evidence? What's the evidence? They always say what's the evidence. The report came out just days after Donald Trump said that Liz Cheney and other members of the committee should go to jail. Aren't they just doing his bidding?

[00:15:14] What's the evidence that Matt Gaetz has other than a report? You've got a report. It's the same thing. That's why people do not trust the media. You have a double standard for one and not for the other. If she, if she didn't break the law, then she's fine. But if she did break the law, she should be held accountable. What is wrong with them asking questions? The House Ethics Committee, the House Ethics Committee is, is, is voting to release this report, presumably with some Republican help.

[00:15:38] This is a House Republican report on January 6th recommending that Liz Cheney be criminally investigated. Isn't this Banana Republic stuff? Why is she being exempted from the law? Everybody who broke the law should be exempted. No, it's not Banana Republic. If she broke the law, I don't see why that's such a hard thing. If she didn't break the law, if she said, then she's fine. There's no evidence she broke the law. They just looked into what happened on January 6th and Donald Trump's attempt to overturn a free and fair election.

[00:16:08] Other than Barry Loudermick, who's a very respected member of Congress, doing his very long investigation and very tiring investigation into this. And if they found it, I think it ought to be brought to light. If not, then she's fine. I don't have a problem with them investigating that. You want the government to go after Trump's political enemies? If they broke the law, I don't care if they're my political enemies or they're my friends. If they broke the law, bad gummit, they ought to be brought in and they ought to be brought to justice. There shouldn't be. That's what we talk about all the time.

[00:16:37] That's why Trump's in the White House, because there is two systems of justice in this country and you can't have it both ways. You have got to it's got to be straight and right down the middle. You can go back and watch all the tapes that the conservatives put out of the Democrats saying there's not there's not two forms of justice or just one. Well, there is two forms of justice. The Biden White House, obviously, they're releasing criminals or releasing pedophiles. They're releasing Chinese communist spies and at a record number. And nobody's paying attention.

[00:17:05] There is two systems of justice in this country. And I'm talking to him and you should be either. Congressman, I mean, you don't think that the January 6th committee should have investigated what took place at the Capitol on January 6th? Well, I know you don't believe that. I know you don't believe that. If they investigate it, why didn't they call me in? I volunteered. I was the last person to leave the House for the last House member. Myself, Mark Wayne Mullin. Neither one of us was called in to see what we saw.

[00:17:34] To saw leadership. All they did was investigate the political wherewithal. It was a witch hunt from the start. That's why the final episode of that crazy thing, there was more people watching reruns of Spongebob on the cartoon network. Is this about getting revenge? Is this about Trump getting revenge? And how's Republicans going along with it? It's about justice. You're absolutely right, Tim. So the problem there, you see how he's all on his talking points.

[00:18:04] Is this about justice? Is this about revenge? Is this the banana republic? It's like the same old thing. It's like deny, deny, deny. It's what they're always doing. You don't hear this kind of coverage whenever Biden does something wrong. For example, the classified document signal. Remember when they tried to impeach Biden on the classified document signal? He was actually the president. But who wasn't president that took documents home with him? It was Biden. Biden was actually the vice president.

[00:18:32] He was not protected by that clause. So the President's Records Act. So he took them home. And they actually did try him. But guess what? They decided not to charge him because of the fact he's senile. They used that encompass mentis on him. They didn't know what he was doing when he was the vice president. But now he's dead. Right. But now, well, they're saying they're not going to charge him now because he's incompetent mentis. Well, OK.

[00:19:00] However, he's not incompetent enough that he can't be removed from office, right? He's still the president. He's obviously not incompetent enough to, you know, do how many pardons are we up to now? Like 2,300? 2,400? You know what? More pardons than any records, any president since what was it? It's been a long time. Ever. I don't think anybody's part of as many people as he has. Except for maybe Lincoln when he was doing presidential pardons after the Civil War. Oh, yeah.

[00:19:29] For the union? Yeah. Yeah? It's like where we're at. And it's just, it's bad. But OK, here's another January 6th audio. And let's see. This is what actually happened on January 6th. I don't even know if this is the right one I'm looking for. If not, I'll just edit this part out later. Oh, just real quick. So you said the audio was added to the film after the fact? Yes.

[00:19:52] So the January 6th audio, the evidence from January 6th, the initial one, like right after January 6th happened and they're playing these things, there's people screaming and hollering in the audio. There was no audio. Huh. So it was just basically like your security cameras that don't have audio. Yes. But now all of a sudden we've got security cameras and audio playing at the same time as evidence. Right.

[00:20:16] I believe that was actually released about a year ago whenever Tucker Carlson did his big old, remember he had a big old January 6th thing on his own that he did right after he got let go from Fox News for covering too much of the truth. Yeah. Funny how that works. Yeah. So just take that for what it's worth. That did come from Tucker Carlson. You know, have I seen the original videos? No. So I mean, I'm only being fed what everybody else is being fed. So just kind of partial through the evidence.

[00:20:42] This is Jesse Waters on the bombshell report, some bombshell report on January 6th. And this is titled What Actually Happened on January 6th. Again, Jesse Waters, Fox News. This is Fox News alert. The Justice Department just released the bombshell report that we've been waiting for. What actually happened on January 6th? The FBI had 26 confidential human sources there that day. 26. A confidential human source is a guy the FBI pays to spy for them.

[00:21:10] Of the 26 confidential human sources who were in D.C. on Jan 6th, four entered the Capitol during the riot. An additional 13 entered the restricted area around the Capitol. So more than a dozen FBI spies participated in the so-called insurrection. A bunch of them broke into the Capitol. Their own inspector general says this is what happened. But that's not what they told you when they testified under oath.

[00:21:37] Those who were there in an undercover capacity on January 6th, how many were there? Again, I'm not sure that I can give you that number as I sit here. I'm not sure there were undercover agents on scene. I thought I heard you say you didn't know whether there were FBI agents or informants or human sources in the Capitol or in the vicinity on January 6th. Did I misunderstand you? I thought that's what you said. Well, I referred very specifically to undercover agents. Yeah.

[00:22:07] And so are you acknowledging then there were undercover agents? As I sit here right now, I do not believe there were undercover agents on scene. The director was hiding something, so Congress asked the question a different way. Listen. Did you have confidential human sources dressed as Trump supporters inside the Capitol on January 6th prior to the doors being opened? Again, I had to be very careful. It should be a no. Can you not tell the American people no?

[00:22:36] We did not have confidential human sources dressed as Trump supporters positioned inside the Capitol. Gentlemen's time has expired. You should not read anything into my decision not to share information. Director Ray, gentlemen's time. Ray's right. The FBI didn't have undercover agents at January 6th. They had confidential human sources. So what's the difference? Well, a confidential human source doesn't get health insurance or a pension. They're just freelancing for the feds.

[00:23:05] Rats in MAGA hats. Rats. They're basically paid informants that the FBI runs at headquarters. A lot of these FBI rats get picked up on some other charge. They get sat down, and the FBI says, you're going to work for me now. And if you don't, you're looking at 20 years to life. So these guys say, yes, sir. And they cozy up to people like the Proud Boys and anyone the feds wants to watch and control from the inside. And these confidential human sources are under pressure to deliver.

[00:23:35] What does deliver mean? It means intelligence and big busts that get the FBI good headlines. According to the Inspector General report, the spies were feeding the FBI intel that said January 6th was going to get a little hairy. But FBI headquarters did nothing about it and then lied to Congress and said they did. So why did headquarters let January 6th get so out of hand?

[00:24:01] And what were all these FBI spies doing that day and the days before? Were they riling everyone up like they did in the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot? In that case, the FBI informants instigated the plot. They even used an FBI credit card to buy the ammo supplies in hotel rooms. Did the FBI pay for Jan 6th hotel rooms? We don't know. Remember, the media and the Democrats said this whole thing was a conspiracy.

[00:24:29] Where do you think this idea comes from, that this was somehow done by the feds? I heard that one of the debaters said it was an inside job. What is an inside job on the part of Donald Trump and his henchmen? Republicans have blamed the FBI and said it was an inside job. It certainly was not an inside job by FBI agents or Antifa. They go around blaming it on Antifa and FBI agents.

[00:24:56] Well, how did the media know it wasn't an inside job when the FBI had 26 of their people on the inside? January 6th certainly benefited the media, the FBI and the Democrats. 1,500 arrests humiliated Trump, got him impeached, criminalized the MAGA movement. Trump got indicted over January 6th, remember? They tried to throw him in prison over this. The January 6th committee, that's all Democrats did for two years. Why didn't the committee find any of these snitches?

[00:25:26] They did a one-sided investigation, teed up Garland to charge Trump so they could run against a convicted felon. So the media is going to apologize, right? No. The media today is cherry-picking the report to say there were no undercover agents there on January 6th. The whole thing is a conspiracy. These aren't articles. They're FBI press releases. And they wonder why their ratings are trash and no one trusts them. It's because of this.

[00:25:55] They don't want the truth. They want to hide it if it hurts the left. And they can't admit they were wrong because it's too embarrassing. And they were a part of the cover-up. But the FBI is worse than the media. The FBI knew what was in this report. They covered it up before the election. And then the director says he's resigning the day before it comes out. Give me a break. This kind of sliminess is why Trump nominated Kash Patel.

[00:26:22] I wonder what else Kash is going to find in the Bureau when he looks under the hood. But as a former federal prosecutor and a public defender who defended a lot of these types of cases, what you need to show is whether or not the FBI and government agents were using undercover operatives and informants on the day of January 6th. Once you prove that, then you defeat the insurrection narrative with the FBI's own documentation. And what does this report do to the January 6th defendants?

[00:26:51] None of the confidential informants were arrested or charged. These guys were right alongside everyone walking into the Capitol. But you're in prison for years? If you're a defense attorney for a Jan Sixer and this drops after the case was decided, that could change everything. Constitutional law professor Jonathan Turley says this, There is a question of why the confidential human sources who entered the Capitol were not charged as part of an operation

[00:27:18] that the Justice Department described as an effort to shock and awe targeting everyone involved that day. This report does not find specific wrongdoing or direction from confidential human sources in the rioting. Congress, however, is likely to seek more information on these sources and their conduct on the day. Are you allowed to commit crimes as a spy for the FBI and not get charged? Because they said this was the greatest attack on democracy ever.

[00:27:48] Said it was up there with 9-11. Traitors, they said, seditionists. They're off scot-free. You can try to overthrow the government if you're an FBI rat and just walk away. Congress has to find out. And what does this mean for pardons? I mean, the Hunter Biden pardon already greased the runway for Trump, but this reports all the ammo Trump needs. He told Time magazine, it's going to start in the first hour, maybe the first nine minutes.

[00:28:18] Now, if I were president, I don't think I'd pardon J-6ers who were slugging cops. But if you were wandering around peacefully, come on. And it's not just Kash Patel that's going to clean house. Tulsi's on deck. I'm here with Tulsi Gaffer. She's here on the Hill meeting with my colleagues. She's going to be a great DNI, a director of national intelligence. It's a really important job. It oversees all of our intelligence agencies. And it's in need of reform. I think everybody would admit that. And so we need to bring in a reformer.

[00:28:47] Now, the deep state's never been this backed into a corner, ever. We have Trump assassination files that we want to release. JFK assassination files. COVID files. Epstein. Diddy. What about that pipe bomb? Is the FBI still working on that one? Who planted that? It's just another conspiracy theory that you were right about. The lab leak, the laptop, and now Jan 6. No wonder Biden's under pressure to dish out more pardons.

[00:29:17] Who knows how high this thing goes. All right. I'm going to stop it there. He's got a lot of information. But you know what? Oh, yeah. None of those 26. Good information, though. Yeah. None of those 26 insiders have been went to prison and been sitting there like the other January 6ers. That's been sitting there with no speedy trial. You know, they're loss of all the rights. Still sit in prison. And they're just political prisoners in my book. Pretty much. And there's I don't know how true this is.

[00:29:47] And we might have to dig into this at some point. But I think there's like a $20 billion lawsuit that's kind of floating out there among G6ers for false imprisonment. So I have a feeling that's going to be something that comes out. Maybe that figure isn't right.

[00:30:02] But I think there's something that I mean, just like I mean, if someone gets wrongly murdered by a police department or law enforcement or something like that, or like a medical facility or something like that, then there is retribution. And there and usually it's in the same sense in the vein of financial compensation. So as American taxpayers, guess what? If this is real, we're going to be paying for what our own government did to its own people. Which is horrendous.

[00:30:33] It's mess. It is. It's messed up. I mean, it's absolutely. And the whole thing is just absurd. I knew the day that it happened. I was like, wait a second. This isn't right. You know, and the whole agent provocateur has always been in the back of my mind with this whole thing that there were people on the inside causing this to happen or riling up crowds. And then some people wound up going through walking in between the velvet ropes on camera, you know, to go through and do what? See the White House or whatever.

[00:31:02] I mean, these people that were at the Capitol weren't they weren't doing what you would consider. Because I've seen insurrections before and the fallout from that, especially when Egypt fell in some of these other locations. You know, Lebanon, I think, was one. And Venezuela was one. Cuba. I mean, when someone takes over what they think is like a, you know, like some sort of a warlord's house, Nigeria, Liberia.

[00:31:33] It's not pretty. And usually nothing is left. It gets ransacked. This was not, in my opinion, an insurrection. It was basically a few people who got caught up in the wave of other people who instigated an event to happen.

[00:31:53] And now we're finding out that those other people were the exact people we thought they were, feds, who were the Proud Boys or whatever you want to call them, stepping in there to make a specific group look like they were nefarious. And now here we're finding out the opposite. Oh, big surprise. Do you remember watching it live whenever? Because I remember clearly there was some there. The majority of them were, yeah, they were MAGA, whatever.

[00:32:22] And then, but there were some that had like their faces were covered, like Antifa. Yeah. And everybody that was on the ground knew that they were not with them. They even pointed them out and told them, get out of here. He's not MAGA. He's a fed. He's a fed. You know, I remember these videos. They were happening quite a bit. And a lot of those people, heck, I remember one. And I wish I could remember his name because it just kind of got disappeared and swept under the rug. But they are very early on. This guy's face was identified as a federal person. What's that?

[00:32:52] I think it was probably Ray Epps or. That sounds very familiar. As a federal person that was on the ground. At this point, I'm nervous to even call them federal agents, you know, because when we say agents of the federal government, that would apply, I guess, to just about anybody that's working for them in any capacity whatsoever. But I got one more. Do you know who Stephen Smith is? I know it's Steve Smith, but no.

[00:33:21] Well, this is somebody personal. This is a sports journalist. He's a radio host. He's got his own podcast. He was an analyst for ESPN. But he's actually and he's very he'd always been a pretty staunch liberal. But even this guy is seeing, you know, what's going on with January six and he's kind of upset about it. I just want to call him for his opinion, you know, because he's from the left. I want to hear what he's got to say here. Check this out. Sure.

[00:33:47] It's a missed a bombshell report from the Justice Department that revealed the FBI had at least 26 confidential informants on the ground when the Capitol was stormed on January 6th, 2021. The report says most of the informants engaged in illegal activity during the chaos. The Justice Department says only three of its 26 informants present had been instructed to observe potential domestic terrorist suspects on the day of the riot. The rest of the 23 appeared to have gone to the Capitol on their own accord.

[00:34:17] Upon hearing news of the report, Vice President-elect J.D. Vance posted the following on X, quote, for those keeping score at home, this was labeled a dangerous conspiracy theory months ago. End quote. Didn't hear anything about that for the election. Didn't hear anything about that when the quote unquote insurrection was broached by Vice President Kamala Harris as a Democratic nominee.

[00:34:42] The belief that Donald Trump was a danger to democracy and using this as a profound, illuminating bullet point to make that case. And now here we are yet again finding even more evidence to Donald Trump's claims when he articulated that process is rigged. My big issue is that I'm really, really sick and tired of every time I turn around.

[00:35:10] Finding something else that the Democrats have lied about or downplayed or misrepresented along the way. I mean, I see Republicans like Megyn Kelly or Officer Tatum or Candace Owens or, you know, the Sean Hannity's of the world. You know what I'm getting tired of? I'm getting, you know what I'm getting to the Democratic Party. You know what I'm getting really pissed off about?

[00:35:38] I'm getting really ticked off. And every time they open their mouth about something pertaining to y'all, they seem right. They're right. To make the case that the right had a monopoly on insidious, evil tendencies, corrupt tendencies, duplicitous, hypocritical, untruthful tendencies.

[00:36:06] And every time they made those accusations, we turn around and find out that at least some of them are guilty of the same shit. I don't know about y'all, but I'm sick of all of it. I'm sick of all of it.

[00:36:27] They've actually made Donald Trump look like he was right instead of them. What do you think? I mean, that realization, I think, is what swayed a lot of black and Hispanic voters toward Trump because people are starting to realize that, wait a second.

[00:36:54] Everything that they're saying, they're either guilty of themselves or is a flat out lie because I have my own eyes that I can see with. And we're just getting played. What gets me is when some people still, despite it all, still are like, oh, well, you know, that's not the case. You know, you're electing a felon as president. So now we're screwed for the next four years. Well, wait a second.

[00:37:22] We got bigger problems to worry about than what someone decided to charge the incoming president with when you realize that the last four years and then the previous eight, not, you know, aside from the four years of Trump, the eight, 12, and 16 years ahead of, or, you know, before that,

[00:37:48] when we were dealing with Obama's and Clinton's Bush's, I mean, the whole, that whole, you know, sequence of individuals who were tied into something far more nefarious. And regardless of left or right, you realize that, hey, wait a second. These are two sides of the same coin. And we have this person, this individual who's being put up as the poster child for everything that's wrong with government.

[00:38:17] But you take a step back and you realize that, wait a second, this is the complete opposite of that. I mean, you have someone who's not a lifetime public or politician who's stepping in and making waves and getting shit done. And he's the one that's villainized. Yeah, and he's villainized. And that's, if that doesn't wake someone up, especially in the black or Hispanic community, Asian, whatever minority it might be.

[00:38:43] I mean, it's like, wait a second, this person's actually living and breathing and acting in the same way that the American dream is designed to be. And yet he's being villainized by people in power. That's, if that doesn't wake you up, I don't know what will, you know. But yeah, that, that, that was an interesting point. You said that's a left leaning podcast, left leaning. I mean, that was, that was a huge advertisement for the right. Yeah.

[00:39:13] Stephen A. Smith, look him up. Yeah. He's a, he's definitely not a Republican. Does this mean he's going red? Probably not. I'm just saying if he's seeing it, I mean, I mean, look, look at what you, you're going to always want to have your Stephen Colbert's and your, your whoopie go birds and people who will never change. But Chris Cuomo has moved. At least since. I've heard some stuff. He's like, wow, this is an interesting realization. And he's not the only one. I mean, look at what happened with RFK, you know, and, and, and Tulsi Gabbard, you know, you got people that was previously Democrats.

[00:39:43] Sliding over, however moderate or, you know, center left. They were scooted over a little bit because they're tired of the lies and they're tired of the wokeness and tired of all this stuff that's being fed to us. This guy right here, Stephen A. Smith. He's just, he's just another one. He's just tired of, of the lies. And, you know, some people will just wake up on their own. It takes some people some time to wake up on their own. You know, it, cause, cause they're, they're kind of eating themselves.

[00:40:11] The left is when they put out these lies and they can't cover up the truth over time. Cause eventually, you know, it's hard, it's hard to cover up a lie after you've told so many of them. You forget what's true anymore. And that's what's going on with, with, with the left right now. We need to take just a quick break. We come back and we can talk about some of these pardons you mentioned just a second. Sure. Yeah. And now let's take a moment for a word from our sponsor. Who is on your side, PBN family?

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[00:41:07] These people get it. They get you and they are the future of healthcare. Visit twc.health slash PBN. Welcome back to the rising republic. Okay. So I got, listen, this right here. This was back when, when Trump was president and he was making some pardons. This is Adam Schiff and he's talking to Don Lemon. Oh, good stuff. Two, two absolute ding dongs. Yeah. Talk about cesspool. These two. Oh my Lord. Okay. So this, this, listen to this right here. And this is a CNN.

[00:41:36] This is back when Don Lemon was on CNN. Okay. Before he got let go. What it would do is say that in the event the president pardons anyone in an investigation in which the president is a witness, a subject or the target, those investigative files will all be turned over to the Congress. The Congress ought to know whether the president is using the pardon power to obstruct justice. The American people have a right to know. I think it is clearly constitutional.

[00:42:05] It doesn't prohibit him from granting a pardon, even a pardon he shouldn't grant. But it does say that we will be able to at least find out whether the president is using this power to shield himself from liability. It offers transparency at the very least. Absolutely. Thank you, Congressman. I appreciate your time. Thanks, Don. 2018. Yeah. We need to release the documentation, whatever kind of files we have to try to determine if there's any kind of corruption.

[00:42:34] Well, geez, let's talk about Biden's pardon and of Hunter Biden, right? All the way out to what year 2014? Oh, yeah. When Biden himself, Joe Biden was the vice president and his son Hunter Biden was a no-experienced guy sitting at the chair of Burisma, an energy factory in Ukraine. Mm-hmm. Ukraine smells to me of Biden corruption.

[00:43:02] This entire war that's being perpetrated by Biden, you know, you could say it's a proxy war against Russia. It smells of Burisma and Ukraine corruption. Something is definitely going on there. And coming from someone who's former military, I mean, I don't know where you've been or what you've done, but I mean, most people that I know in the military have soured on this topic

[00:43:28] in particular, because it's like, wait a second, this is definitely not something that we should ever have even started to get involved in. And maybe that's the wrong card to throw out there, you know, that is 100% on board, because even as a civilian, it's like, wait a second, what are we even doing there? This is the biggest waste of time and money. And this proxy war is that we as taxpayers get to pay for, right? Right.

[00:43:59] So what was your guess earlier for the pardons? I thought the last number that I saw was something like 2,300. Okay. Well, this is from December 12th, so it's actually older. It was 1,500 back then, which I think was record-breaking at the time. That's still significant. It is. He's got to be spending all day, every day doing nothing but writing pardons. Come on. You can't tell me that he's going through these case by case. He's just signing papers. Yes.

[00:44:29] That's all he's doing. Someone else is pushing it under his nose. So, again- And the thing is, is a presidential pardon, in my opinion, is something to where, as a president, you review the case. You realize that over the course of your term as president, that this person was probably unjustly convicted of a crime. And that pardon has some sort of specific connotation to it.

[00:44:57] Like, maybe it was something where the laws changed as a result, and now this person can be set free because the reason they were convicted is no longer a felony or something like that. Or, you know, something like that. But it seems like with that many pardons, it completely takes the critical thought out of that. And to me, it's a total abuse of power.

[00:45:22] I don't think any president should be allowed to have more than, you know, maybe 10 or 20 pardons. Maybe 100 max. But we're talking 1,500 two weeks ago. And the last number I saw was close to 2,300. I don't know how accurate that is, but still, it's like, what's the point of that? If you're using your presidential powers to do nothing for four years and then pardon a bunch of people, to me, that's just criminal activity.

[00:45:52] It seems like it, I don't know. You can't tell me, though. I'm stuck on this. He went through all these, and they're supposed to be nonviolent crimes. That he just went through all of these 20-some-hundred now, or 2,000-some-odd hundred, you were saying, case files and just kind of looked through them. That, to me, is a slap in the face of the justice system, the juries, the judges, everybody, you know, that went through the process. Some of these... All the time? Yeah. Yes, and these jurors sit...

[00:46:21] In the family that are affected by whatever those crimes were? ...deliberating for sometimes a week at a time away from their family, you know, and communications from the outside world. And what makes this worse is just not nonviolent crimes. But as I'm looking here, he commuted, I don't know if you've heard this or not, 37 out of 40 federal death row inmate sentences. So he commuted them from death row to whatever life sentence. 37. Huh. Now, this is from American Wire, so take it for what it's worth. This is today, President Biden announced...

[00:46:50] And let me see what the date on this is. December 23rd. Today, President Biden announced that he is coming... I'm sorry, commuting the sentences of 37 individuals on federal death row. Those individuals will have their sentences reclassified from execution to life without the possibility of parole. The White House said in its fact sheet issued on Monday. What's he saying here? I've dedicated my career to reducing violent crime and ensuring a fair and effective justice system. To me, a fair and effective justice system is the one where, you know, the judge,

[00:47:17] the jury, whoever, whatever kind of trial this is, says guilty of the death sentence. Yeah. If someone has committed a crime where the death sentence was on the table, you can't tell me that a jury of 12 people sat by and did all that work, like you said, spent all that time, debated, and put this person in prison and said, yes, this individual deserves to die as a result of whatever crime it is they committed.

[00:47:44] You can't tell me that that person in basically given the information that was available, it's just all of a sudden, you know, oh, the evidence was, was not good enough to, to justify death. Death. Death. So now we're just going to sit there and pay for them for however much longer it might be. Well, several of these. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. I'm reading here that, and this is Daily Wire now, that some of these include cop killers,

[00:48:11] and one in particular was a man who kidnapped and murdered a 12-year-old girl. Tell me why that kind of cesspool of the earth, definitely not cream of the crop, but the lowest of the low, raped and murdered a 12-year-old girl and got the death penalty. And we don't know what kind of trial it was, but got the death penalty. And he's just like, no, you don't deserve it. Let's just commute him to life in prison. Yeah. No. Immediately. Death in prison. Well, and that's the justice that the family wants. And that's the thing, yeah.

[00:48:40] And the families that are affected by these crimes, they get to live life knowing that their taxes are going to pay for someone that killed their child. I mean, that's, it's, it's hard to, to be able to look down the barrel of that and being, you know, and being on the receiving end of some sort of crime. Like that. And be like, okay, this is okay. This is humanitarian. No, not necessarily. Some people, unfortunately, you know, disagree with me if you want, but some people deserve to be put down period. Yes.

[00:49:10] Because besides the, the, the murder of the girl and the cop killer, uh, Daryl Lawrence is the name of the cop killer. Uh, Lawrence was 33 years old. He was a, I'm sorry. Another one of those who sentence was commuted was cop killer, Daryl Lawrence. Lawrence murdered a 33 year old Ohio police officer, Brian Hearst during a bank robbery in Columbus in 2005. Uh, others include a man who murdered two people in a carjacking, a man who murdered a postal worker and multiple men who murdered fellow prisoners. I mean, you know, it's just.

[00:49:39] So the guy, the first guy you mentioned has been in prison for almost 20 years now and he's probably going to get to be in there for another 15 or 20 years. And it's like, wait a second. This is, and he murdered somebody, somebody, I mean, took somebody's father, brother, husband away. I mean, it's. And the painstaking process of the whole death penalty system is that they don't, in my opinion, and I don't know if this is a fine wire to walk because I've seen people proven years later, innocent, right?

[00:50:07] When, when, when, when a case is reopened and reexamined that, uh, that maybe DNA evidence that wasn't around at the time. Sure. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. But there's a part of me that wants to see these kinds of people, you know, die immediately that to not to, to linger and be a burden on the taxpayer dollar. Cause these guys have been here for years and years and years. I mean, when, when there's evidence beyond a shadow of a doubt, which should be the case anyway, in any murder, you know, I think that's the case, but I don't, it's the system

[00:50:35] is broken in that way that how did that happen back then? How can you convict someone would be on a shadow of a doubt. And then years later, DNA evidence, when we have this technology to prove, Hey, that he's actually been on death row for all this time for no reason. And he gets immediately released. And that breaks my heart that that happened to him. But how did the system fail him in the first place? I know it's not fricking a perfect system, but it's the best system in my opinion. And that's what's great about America. Well, that's the thing.

[00:51:02] If, if someone truly was innocent, sure, set them free, you know, and read, pay any sort of, you know, retribution that might be deserving of that person. Losing 20 years of their life or whatever. But in this particular case, when you've got a president who's basically senile, who's just commuting all these sentences. I mean, there's no reason for that. I mean, it's not like a DNA evidence has been brought to light and all of a sudden he's like, wait a second, you know, this isn't the case or this person deserves to be set free.

[00:51:30] It's just, Oh, this person is a son of somebody who I know, and they've got some political pull. So guess what? They're, they're free to go or they're free to live a life and not, not suffer the same fate as someone that they're, you know, as, as the person that they impacted with their own criminal activity. Right. It's bullshit. Honestly. Would you agree with me? It's not the perfect system. It's just the best system. It's not. I mean, exactly.

[00:51:58] And I think that there are with advances in technology and like DNA has been huge in clearing and commuting sentences, but, um, it's not perfect whenever you have humans involved. It's not perfect. Um, but there, and if there's good police work, that's pretty much what you have to go by. Cause usually a lot of these sentences that are, that wind up being commuted because of

[00:52:23] DNA or whatever is because of faulty police work or evidence that might've been mishandled or something like that. But I mean, if, even if the system is faulty and this is what we have to work with introducing something like these kinds of commuted sentences doesn't help that, you know, and if anything, it makes it worse in my opinion. Well, before we go, did you hear, uh, did you happen to see, uh, Todd Young?

[00:52:51] He's a, uh, a Democrat representative. I forget what state he's out of, but he's, he's on some of some kind of panel and he's talking about resources in Africa and stuff. And he called for what it is. He, he, he, he meant to, he said, exploiting, we need to, we need to keep exploiting. And, uh, he's like, Oh, or I fumbled over his words and he's like, uh, exploring. It's a, you know, we need to keep exploring. It's like, let's call for what it is. It's exploitation. Uh, this is humorous to me.

[00:53:21] Listen to how he got bugged up in his own, his own, uh, his own truth. How can we help foster the public private partnerships, bringing American capital and expertise and standards, uh, to Africa so that we can keep, uh, exploiting, uh, uh, so that we can, uh, uh, uh, exploring, uh, where we can get these minerals. Oh man, that's brutal. And that's exactly what's happening. Shadow companies are moving in there.

[00:53:50] Cause they're like, Oh, lithium chain. Just like what we talked about a few weeks ago with North Carolina and all the mining right there with the Piedmont. Yep. Piedmont lithium. Coal, silver, iron ore. I mean, and the thing is, is in Africa, guess what? They don't have OSHA there. They don't have wage controls. They don't have labor in industries or anything of that nature. So guess what? Kids are going into these places.

[00:54:19] Chinese investors are buying up land and, and mines and stuff and reopening a lot of these mines in Africa, employing African children and young adults for pennies on, on the penny, so to speak, fractions of a sense. And, you know, two or $3 a month kind of thing. I mean, next to nothing. And to them, that's great because it's the best economy that they, they can get their

[00:54:47] hands on, but they're also sacrificing their lives to go in and do this work that really shouldn't be done or it should be done by robots or technology instead of human beings. So essentially Africans are being turned into slaves in their own country, you know, by American interests or Chinese or foreign interests or whatever it might be, which is, it's sad, but it's true. And it is happening.

[00:55:11] The irony about that is the left who's pushing all the lithium operated green tech. Oh yeah. Right. And all their anti-slavery, you know, cause the white liberal is the one who's always talking about reparations. They're, they're more, they're more racist against white people than black, the black people are. And now, and here they are, you know, with pushing their own, their own belief system in the green tech, the green technology and all this, the great green, the green new deal.

[00:55:38] And in the process, they're basically enslaving these, these, I've seen the mines and the black kids, they're, they're children. And I don't know if they're getting paid or not. If they are, they're taking it back home to mom and dad, who's probably also in the mines. So once you, once you realize that lithium is the new cotton, it kind of changes your perspective on getting your power tools or your, your, you know, what do you call it?

[00:56:05] Battery operated cars, electric vehicles and you know, that kind of stuff. You really should take a, take a step back. What's that? It's in our laptops. It's in our phones. It's in everything. Oh, it's in everything. And I mean, I've, I've kind of tried to make a shift toward less tech and I mean, I don't buy nearly as many electronic devices as I used to. I try and recycle as much as I can in the, in the sense that if someone else is getting a new phone, I'll take theirs, their old phone instead of buying a new one. You know what I mean?

[00:56:34] I don't buy new vehicles. I don't, I mean, I don't buy into that because, and there's a lot of people, there's a big, I mean, it's kind of hard to go against that wave, but I don't get, I don't mind getting made fun of for driving an old vehicle or, you know, running an old device. It's, you know, so old, I can't even make any new updates on it, so to speak. But on the other hand, I know deep down that I'm not contributing to that nightmare just because I can't see it, but I know that I can feel it.

[00:57:04] Right. And, uh, right. And, and, well, you're gonna have a lot more peace at the end of the day, aren't you? Oh, absolutely. You know, and it's, I personally, I do just, and I try and make the most out of what I have and take care of my things so that I'm not sitting there disposing of the next lithium tool or whatever. Um, but I, I mean, it's like I said, once you realize that lithium is the new cotton, it's really quite an eye opener to where that money is coming from.

[00:57:34] Um, where it's going and who is doing the actual work. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause it's, it's not cause they're Africa by and large is a poor country. I would say the majority of it's going to, uh, Caucasian, uh, European, Caucasians, uh, you know, Germans, Americans, uh, Russians. It's going everywhere. Chinese. Uh, it's a, it's a huge, it's a billion dollar industry and, uh, and their supply is not infinite.

[00:58:03] And that's why they're wanting, I believe to dig in so deep and get this, uh, this Piedmont lithium thing going and even deeper and get more, some of the more mining right there. Cause I guess North Carolina has got one of the, I think I read the sixth largest in the, in the earth. Oh, I believe it. And they're sitting on it and they, they want access to that, but. Yeah. Well, I mean, you look at the Appalachians and they've basically eroded away to the point where they're just hills now compared to the mountains that we have here out West.

[00:58:29] Well, that just makes it that much easier to mine if you don't have to go quite as deep as some of these other locations because it's accessible. Right. Right. But the deposit itself is probably buried under other mountains. It's just, it's the, the accessibility is next to impossible with the technology that we have now. Right. But yeah, I mean, it's, it's a struggle, man. Might be a topic for another day too, but.

[00:58:59] Hey, that concludes our episode of the rising Republic, at least for this week. I want to thank everybody for listening. Uh, I am L Douglas Hogan. And I'm Ryan Buford. Thanks everybody for joining the show.