The Rising Republic: Reclaiming the Infrastructure

[00:00:00] There needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there is unrest in our lives. I think Donald Trump, I think he need to go back and punch him in the face. That I thought he should have punched him in the face.

[00:00:11] I feel like punching him. I'd like to take him behind the gym if I were in high school. If you're in high school, I'd take you behind the gym and beat the hell out of him. I will go and take Trump out tonight. Take him out now.

[00:00:22] When was the last time an actor assassinated a president? They're still going to have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump. Show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful. And you push that one there.

[00:00:34] And you tell the man I will go. Any more, anywhere. I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House. Please get up in the face of some Congress people. People will do what they do.

[00:00:50] I want to tell you, Gord Dutch, I want to tell you, Gavin O'od, you have relieved the whirlwind and you will pay the price. We're going to go in there winning. F***! This is just a warning to you Trumpers. Be careful. Walk lightly.

[00:01:10] And for those of you who are soldiers, make them pay. We are your lizard overlords. Stop listening to these preppers. Eat your crickets. Fight in the streets. Own nothing and love it. We are the Prepper Broadcasting Network. Welcome everybody to the Rising Republic with L. Douglas Hogan.

[00:02:06] I'm so excited today. I am here today with a seasoned IT professional, entrepreneur, author and investor, Sean Patrick Terrio. And Sean through the years has been, you know, he's got a pretty significant background. He's got a pretty significant biography if you will in IT,

[00:02:24] which I thought was interesting given the fact that in the past I've had guests on here who we've talked about smart cities. We've talked about artificial intelligence. And I thought this would be a great culmination of that to have him on here.

[00:02:36] We can talk about a little bit of these topics, but just a little bit of his bio. Among many things he's a father, husband, entrepreneur, a seed stage investor. Like I said, an author, community organizer, Americanist and my favorite of all things.

[00:02:51] He's a Christ loving patriot seeking and sharing truth and love. He spent most of his entire professional career developing strategic alliances within a business development role of some sort, either for his employers, the boards that he served on companies.

[00:03:05] He's invested in and or advice and companies and events. He's directly produced over the past 20 years. He believes in action, learning from his mistakes and simply making things happen. Sean, welcome to the rising republic. I'm so glad to have you on bud. Doug, appreciate it man.

[00:03:23] It's been fun chatting. Not a problem. So I actually ran into you. I put out not long ago. I'll say just a few short months ago. I'm like, I need to make me and I know the devil Google pretty much a Gmail

[00:03:37] account where I can reach out to and hear from my listeners. And lo and behold, I got an email not long after that went out from somebody on your end who will remain anonymous at this point because I don't have any permission to list names.

[00:03:53] But you were actually brought up as somebody that might be an interesting person to talk to on this show. So naturally I started doing my homework because I like to look and see what I can find and discover.

[00:04:05] And I thought that you were very interesting, especially when I looked at some, some YouTube video. I saw that you were being interviewed on there and I'm like, okay, this guy would be a pretty good person to have on the show.

[00:04:18] Tell us a little bit about yourself, something that I've missed in that bio. Yeah, I guess born and raised in Chicago, North Shore, Chicago. And I'm 43 now. Got three kids have a soon to be 18 year old, 14 year old and a soon to be 11 year old.

[00:04:35] As you know, as a dad, it's crazy watching my 18 year old is going to be graduating here soon and head on to the real world. So having fun with those, those days right now, but born and raised in Chicago.

[00:04:49] And I thankfully had a father who was very much awakened aware of what was going on in the world and also exploring and learning on his own, what was going on in the world. And so when I was 14, he sat me down and made me watch the VHS

[00:05:08] series of the creature from Jekyll Island, which if you know that book, it's about the history of money and banking and currency and the Federal Reserve and whatnot. And so it sparked for me at a very young age, the idea and

[00:05:24] the understanding of what is really happening in the world around me. So that sent me on a quest throughout the rest of my life of really questioning everything to the degree that, you know, when 9 11 hit and I was a senior in college and

[00:05:42] all my friends were like freaking out. And they're like, Oh my gosh, you know, the terrorists are coming after us. I'm like, are you like, how do you guys not see this as the control demolition that it is?

[00:05:53] And all the other random things that kept popping up where they were like, you're telling trying to tell me that the Pentagon, which is the most fortified secured building on in America, the only images we have of an airplane hitting it

[00:06:08] or these five freeze frames, like that's the only imaging we have an airplane apparently hitting this building. You got to be kidding me. And then when the FBI claimed to have found a passport that had some burn marks on it from one of the hijackers in the

[00:06:22] airplane, I'm like, who is buying this drip? Like y'all are delusionally crazy. And they're all looking at me telling me that I was crazy. And I was in the middle of getting a double major in polycyte and econ and learning like who owns everything and

[00:06:38] who runs everything and how interrelated those parties are. And I got to be honest, I got really depressed. I got very sad and very depressed that so many people around me were just clueless to what was really happening around them and just buying wholesale the propaganda that

[00:06:56] was being pushed out on every single channel. Instantly, I had read the Patriot Act and gotten deep into the Patriot Act, you know, as a 20, 21 year old. And I was like, this is absolutely horrible. And I was going to my polycyte professors and my theology

[00:07:13] professors and I was like, this is going to be super frightening for us as American people and people are like, oh, this is only going to apply to terrorists and you know, you're calm down, Sean. You know, this is not the end of the world.

[00:07:29] And I was like, we're now flipping. We're going to flip the script now and we're going to be now chasing. And it was funny because I had just gotten out of a class, college class where we were reading 1984 Brave New World,

[00:07:43] Dune and a handful of other sci-fi related, you know, polycyte books, which showed you exactly what the end game was that they were pushing towards. So it was like right in front of my mind exactly what was going down while it was going down.

[00:08:01] And long story short, I got depressed and eventually, you know, as I was on my knees as many times in my life as I have been and just pleading with the Lord to give me some guidance. It just became clear to me that my mission at that point

[00:08:16] was not to save the world, that my mission at that point was just to become the most effective person I could be and to just go out into the world and learn and spread truth and love as much as possible,

[00:08:30] but really learn how to connect with people because if I truly wanted people to listen to me, I had to change the approach that I had at the time, which was, you know, screaming and yelling and trying to

[00:08:40] get in people's, you know, I grew up in an Irish Catholic family, which Doug, I think you said you did too. But the way we communicated with each other is we just got louder, right? If someone, if he thought someone wasn't listening to you, you got louder.

[00:08:53] And if you yelled loud enough, then eventually you might get heard. It's the Irish way. So eventually, yeah. So eventually, and so I've learned it's the Italian way. It's, you know, it's the way of a lot of different groups. It's the Greek way.

[00:09:08] It's a lot of different ways. But anyway, long story short, I had to relearn how to communicate. And so I went on a path of discovery and really just started learning about myself and learning how to really sit and have conversations with people and

[00:09:25] be truly empathetic with where they're coming from and understanding where they're coming from so that I could reach them on their level and really build the relationship so that there would come a point where they would then start to ask me questions

[00:09:37] and I could start to, you know, share my story and my journey. So that's a key piece of the puzzle in my story is a, I've been awake trying to wake people up and you know, quote, you know, this whole red pilling thing.

[00:09:51] I've been trying to red pill people my entire freaking adult life and it's been a very lonely journey. And when COVID hit and people started to wake up and started to question what was going on around them. It was awesome because I now could have

[00:10:11] conversations about a lot of these topics and people would be interested. They would not just break me off as some kind of a crazy cook because they were seeing it right in front of their face. But I also hit a point where I realized and it

[00:10:27] became very obvious to me that my mission is no longer to try to wake people up. My mission is to arm those who are awake with the tools that they need to be successful operating in the world today, especially those

[00:10:40] who are on the front lines of the war that we are in. And I know Doug, you and your listeners probably would agree that we're currently at war, right? Yeah, you know, because we're at a spiritual war. I think me and you talked recently just I think

[00:10:54] yesterday about the spiritual war that we're in and there's a lot of invisible forces that are at play and you know, I've referred to people just kind of like like me puppets were being influenced by spirits. So it's not always about, you know, him

[00:11:08] versus her or him, you know, people versus people. Sometimes there's there's spiritual entities and spiritual powers at play and that bleeds over into the physical world and people who are not spiritually perceptive just jump in on it. And unfortunately, that's that's where we're at

[00:11:26] is you know, and the whole real red pillar thing. I mean 15% didn't just jump right into the whole, you know, the COVID mandate. I think 80 to 85% of everybody just said, okay, because the government says it's safe that it must be safe. And it's like you were saying

[00:11:42] about the cameras at the Pentagon when the most secure facilities in the world, you know, there's just a couple freeze frames. Come on, you know, you don't believe that. And it's like the January 6 stuff. There's cameras all over the place. They have no audio. I mean, come on.

[00:11:56] It's time. People just need to open up and start stop being ridiculous about some of this stuff. This country is supposed to it's at the pinnacle of of its its its reach heights where we've never that we've never seen before as far as

[00:12:08] technology goes. We're more advanced now than we've ever been. You know, I can go we can have all kinds of conspiracy talk about the moon landing and stuff like that. It's a whole other topic, but when did you graduate college in there

[00:12:20] because you I know you was in college. When did you get out of there? And what do you graduate with? Oh, to I graduated and I was in Santa Clara, California actually went to Santa Clara University, private Jesuit University out there and and I'm getting a lot

[00:12:36] a lot of arguments and a lot of debates with the Jesuits out there. They they didn't always like me because I was asking asking a lot of hard questions and calling them to the table for a lot of the crap that they were doing as you

[00:12:50] could imagine in the Bay Area Bay Area Jesuits are a very interesting breed and you know, I'm still Catholic and I've explored many different denominations over the years and actually go to a pretty solid Latin mass and traditional Catholic church up in

[00:13:08] up in North Carolina on the border but over the years I went through Greek Orthodox and went through the Society of the 10th I became a non-denominational Christian for a while and then found a priest who's just on fire and on point at the church that I'm

[00:13:26] at now. But my point is this there are many Jesuits who have completely distorted the faith and they call themselves, they even call themselves the pink Jesuits and as you can imagine they're mostly all homosexuals which is anathema to their faith and they basically have been promoting and

[00:13:50] creating this little cabal out in northern I guess middle California where San Francisco is so I was constantly arguing and fighting and debating with those guys while I was there but that's where I was at that time It's like how in the Bible

[00:14:10] God gave a rainbow as a promise right? It means something and what did Lucifer do? He took it and perverted it and so that's what I was telling you yesterday like, you know, Satan has a counterfeit for everything and if he can take

[00:14:26] this group or religious sect of any kind and pervert it, he will and it only takes one person that's not really spiritually discerning but might know the word look, Satan knows the Bible just because a person knows the Bible and is fluent in Scripture

[00:14:40] Satan used to quote it to Jesus himself remember when he was taking him around on his 40 days and he was tempting him you know the devil knows the Scripture too and just because you know the Scripture doesn't mean that you're some kind of godly person

[00:14:54] you study the word and you understand its meaning now, well, you know you might not understand it to the depth that it was intended but it's there for a purpose and that's one thing and this is another. I noticed because you got a very profound background

[00:15:10] starting out in probably 2006 with the Santa Cruz Geeks but it starts getting more profound. This guy come on and start here in 2015 the Internet Infrastructure Coalition the I2 Coalition tell me a little bit about that so this is actually a fun story. So we realize that

[00:15:32] the 18Ts and Googles of the world were spending literally tens of millions of dollars and what's crazy, I mean tens of millions of dollars is a lot of money but in DC it's not that much money but in DC in dollars buys you an army of people

[00:15:54] who will then go and meet with legislators and staffers because people who don't know DC or politics don't quite understand staffers really run the show and they're the younger 20-somethings right out of college or law school or whatever who really run the office of a

[00:16:14] representative or a senator so they spend their time effectively doing sales for those companies with these legislators and you know you call them lobbyists they're salesmen and women I have a twin sister actually who was a lobbyist in DC for a number of years

[00:16:34] and I learned that industry intimately so we would be, I would be in DC and I would see how the sausage was being made and I realized there was very little voice for the mom and pop ISPs so the smaller ISPs internet service providers who were delivering

[00:16:54] last mile access to Joe Customer who lived wherever or Jane Business that was in tier 2, tier 3 market in the United States outside of the big cities and I saw the encroachment the continued encroachment of big tech and these big conglomerate infrastructure companies into those marketplaces

[00:17:18] same with the hosting companies so you know everyone knows GoDaddy but GoDaddy is one of literally thousands thousands of hosting companies that are storing people's websites their data, their email whatever it might be online and these exist in cities all over the United States

[00:17:38] and all over the world so there was no voice for these smaller entities there was no voice for the Googles and the ATTs and Verizon and Yahoo's and Microsoft's and Amazon's and Googles of the world but there was no voice for those smaller ISPs

[00:17:56] so I met a gentleman who had just started this internet infrastructure coalition and the objective was to provide a voice for those smaller companies and smaller businesses that had just as many needs and we're really fighting against big tech because big tech was getting all the money

[00:18:12] and all the funding and all the attention and many times, not all the time but many times what they wanted was contradictory to what these smaller businesses wanted and so we were meeting with the legislators who had these hosting ISPs and or hosting companies in their district

[00:18:36] and providing them with between the people in your room right now who are in your district you have four hosting companies and you have one major ISP collectively they have over 750 employees between these companies and here's what this legislation that you're about to pass that

[00:18:56] Google has told you or ATTs told you has to pass because it's whatever is going to affect these businesses so that was the objective of the ITC and what we found, not surprisingly is we would walk into the meeting and we would see

[00:19:14] the AT&T or the Google lobbyist walking out of the legislators office the senators office or whatever's office the key persons office laughing, joking, hey great dinner last night, thanks for the drinks whatever buddy buddy and then it would be our term to meet

[00:19:34] and it would be oh, you know representative so-and-so is busy he's got something else but you can go meet with this low level staffer who is one year out of college or just right out of college and he wants to hear what you guys

[00:19:48] have to say to see how we might be able to best serve you guys and your businesses in our district right and it's so blatantly obvious how DC works and so we tried we had a lot of good meetings

[00:20:04] with a lot of good people who were in it for the right reasons out there but at the end of the day DC is one massive swamp that is totally an appropriate term and cesspool of people who are motivated by money, greed, power and a whole bunch

[00:20:22] of psychopaths and sociopaths which is not too dissimilar to Silicon Valley which is where I spent the majority of my career and a big reason why I finally said I can't live in this I can't live amongst this swamp either and so we picked up our family

[00:20:42] and moved in 2016 to Raleigh, North Carolina but anyway that's my long story short so then because I see I know that in your call this your resume you also worked with InfraGuard right with DC is that correct? Washington DC? No so that was at North Carolina

[00:21:04] InfraGuard is a public-private partnership between the FBI and the private sector and at the time I was wanting to see if there were any good people inside the FBI especially near me in North Carolina I was building these coalitions in North Carolina of different businesses

[00:21:24] and people who are wanting to take action and actually make a difference in and around the Raleigh area people who are physically conservative Liberty-minded folks so I joined InfraGuard because I'm a geek and I had just reached, I just launched my book the data center

[00:21:44] call location industry playbook and I was wanting to take that education to see if I could use that education about how the data center industry works and all the shortfallings I saw in the industry specifically how easy it is for someone to basically crack

[00:22:02] and hack that infrastructure and take it down and people think that the internet is like so crazy hardened and there's all this redundancy built into the internet and it would never go down let's just say that's not the case it's held together by duct tape

[00:22:20] if you really look at it and understand how it all plays and works so I wanted to see if I could talk to people and start making some pathways into our agencies to provide some knowledge and education hopefully meet some good people in the organization

[00:22:36] so I spent a couple years I actually did a presentation on the data center industry I had a handful of people come up to me afterwards and say this is really interesting we may want to bring you into some meetings and then I heard nothing

[00:22:52] there were basically crickets from that community and then I went to something called the Red Dart conference have you ever been familiar with that? No so a Red Dart conference is where to take that same concept of public-private partnership you have the NSA folks the DOD folks

[00:23:12] I'm sure there were CIA folks there there was the FBI folks there was all the federal agencies all the contractors all of the military contractors they were there and it was being held in Raleigh so I was right there I said screw it I'll go check this out

[00:23:30] and it was in the middle of a conversation by one of the former NSA directors where he was talking about all the threats of China and they were literally spelling out exactly what China's intentions were exactly which organizations they had infiltrated how they laid out the entire plan

[00:23:54] of how China had infiltrated the United States so they knew probably knew in advance even yes so this was like not them trying to figure it out they knew exactly who the actors were they knew exactly the institutions they knew exactly what they were doing from an education

[00:24:10] from a military from a political, from an economic from an industry they knew it all like they were giving us the full blueprint of what was being planned I was like oh my god this is awesome we know the plan of attack

[00:24:26] right so I raised my hand at the end I said so you've told us the problem what's the solution what can we as businesses do like you full on know that billions of dollars worth of IP is being siphoned out of the United States by the Chinese government

[00:24:44] and their actors in our states and in our country what can we do as businesses and what is the government doing to help save America and I literally kid you not the answer was the guy laughed his response was a laugh

[00:25:00] and then he said well the good news is I'm retired now and it's not my problem wow and I was like okay and he gave some BS response about how you know they're trying really hard and they're working really hard but really

[00:25:16] at the end of the day you know our hands are tied our hands are tied and really what we can do right now to combat this in the United States and so I try to ask a follow up question they wouldn't

[00:25:28] let me ask a follow up question but the obvious follow up question is who's tying your hands right because you were this was during the Obama administration this was during the Obama administration correct yep so I lost my SHIT at that point and I basically

[00:25:48] I stopped attending the meetings and I was like you guys are a freaking joke you're not here to actually solve any problems and it basically confirmed my suspicions that there really weren't any good people left in these organizations which I'm sure there probably are some decent people

[00:26:06] but they're probably on assignments that are completely unrelated to anything of value or they're just clueless like my grandfather fully acknowledged my grandfather was an FBI agent and the reason why I know a lot of the stuff that I know is A

[00:26:22] my dad taught me about what's going on in the world but at a young age he only lived two blocks away from me so I would go to his house in the morning when my parents would as a teenager I didn't want to be around my parents

[00:26:32] like most kids and so I would go to my grandparents house because they would make me breakfast and my grandfather was a great breakfast cook and he would just talk to me and he would tell me about the communist infiltration in America and blah blah blah

[00:26:44] and at the time I would write him off I was like grandpa you're crazy just like people would tell me as I got older you're crazy, you're conspiracy theorist there's no way and he's like nope and here's what they've done here's how they've done it

[00:26:58] here's the agenda, the communist manifesto is literally the as you were talking about so if you really look at it so he would dig into all this stuff with me at a young age and now so I knew my grandfather was when he was in the office

[00:27:12] his assignments were not the assignments that would really help him understand what their primary objective was and if you if you were to see the information that's come out now over the last couple years unfortunately he's passed away about 10 years ago

[00:27:28] but if you were to see the information that's come out and you know what I'm saying about RFK about anyway any of these assassinations that have been directly put through by our intelligence agencies he probably would have died of another heart attack unfortunately

[00:27:48] it's not how I got on that rant but oh red dart, yeah so that was my involvement with InfraGuard and that organization it's just crazy to me how much of this stuff is randomly what declassifying some of this information and I can tell you

[00:28:02] to answer your question about good people being in the government because I've worked in my 30 years I've only had government jobs in a 29 year time frame I've worked municipal county, state and federal the federal part of it I was in the military so I understand

[00:28:20] the Uniform Code of Military just as I understand that kind of stuff as far as federal government I can take orders and I can tell you that when it comes to municipal county, state and federal there are good people there but when something's shady, sketchy as they say

[00:28:38] or shade and you're one of the good persons you have to keep your mouth shut out of fear of losing your job or being killed if you're CIA yes, the higher you go the more likely that's going to be because grunts, the lower level grunts

[00:28:54] don't stumble upon stuff they shouldn't know it's the ones that get a little bit higher in rank and they hear things you've got to keep your mouth shut and so as you get close to that stuff

[00:29:06] you begin to see more and your eyes become more and more open so they're there but when they say something they get clinted right, let's just look at the unfortunate situation with the New York cops who found the Wiener laptop and saw what was on the Wiener laptop

[00:29:22] and like what is it, 7 out of 9 or 7 out of 8 or 8 out of 9 of those individuals that saw what was on that laptop their families were like these people were never the same after they watched what they watched on this thing they're all quote unquote suicided

[00:29:40] however mad you may be at what our intelligence agencies have done over the past few years I'm honestly of the opinion that you're not mad enough because it has been decades that they've been at work protecting and enabling these fascist world order globalist scum, Luciferians

[00:29:58] and I'm sure you know as I've been said I know that there's some good people through the agencies over the years you know it's just I don't understand how you can have any kind of a conscience and be involved with what they're doing right now

[00:30:16] how we don't see more whistleblowers coming out of these organizations right now calling spades spades knowing that they're going to even people who profess to be Christians and I say this even to the people who are working currently for you know, Lonsanto

[00:30:32] or working for you know big tech you know Google companies you're gonna face a point in your life where you have to sit down with your creator and he's gonna have a very hard conversation with you which is did you serve me when you were on the planet

[00:30:50] and I had to have this very real conversation with the Lord because he made it clear to me what he wanted me to do and what he wanted me to be doing especially after January 6 where I was pleading with him because I knew this thing

[00:31:02] was going to be a setup I knew it was going to be a setup absolutely certain I literally had to physically restrain my wife and hide the keys to our car the day before to prevent my wife from going there

[00:31:14] and she wanted to go and I said honey this is going to be a massive colossal setup you have to trust me and and I'm crying on my knees on my face saying Lord I'm so tired sorry I'm so tired of being right

[00:31:34] about these things you need to put me on the front lines now I'm done put me on the front lines let me serve and it seems and it's okay I can tell you're very passionate about this and you should be because Jesus didn't tell us to roll over

[00:31:52] and just watch evil happen he commissioned us and he gave us things to do in the meantime yes the time is set no mankind cannot save the world only Jesus can save the world but we have our marching orders right from the Lord

[00:32:08] and there are things we got to do in the meantime at some point you're like please Lord put me there open a door and it seems like he heard you because there come a time where you were appointed by the US Secretary of Commerce and then later on

[00:32:22] you got another appointment by the North Carolina Speaker of the House tell me a little bit about that how God kind of laid these doorways open for you yes I mean me being very interested in economic development and politics I knew how to navigate and I knew

[00:32:40] who I needed to get in front of to learn the system because for me it's all a big system and if you understand systems theory you understand that there's different industries and there's different systems but they all for the most part operate very similarly so you know

[00:32:56] how big tech works is really no different than how big finance work works is really no different than how big accounting works it's really all the same even as it relates to you know nature if you dig into systems within nature they're just microcosms of bigger

[00:33:16] bigger and bigger systems as it expands out so through that when we moved to Raleigh I got very connected very quickly because I just figured out I spent a year just kind of assessing and learning and kind of figuring out who the players were and what the

[00:33:30] organizations were and then I started injecting myself where I thought I could make a difference so that's how I got involved with that stuff but to your point you know when I'm on the floor and I'm pleading the Lord

[00:33:42] just made it clear he said look I've given you all these experiences over the last 20 years John so that you could serve right now and you're going to build parallel infrastructure you're going to help all these people who are going to be forced offline as you know

[00:34:00] all these conservatives all this content they're going to push you offline we knew I knew that that was the agenda because you follow the money within these organizations these infrastructure companies the data center companies the hosting companies the network companies and you know that their agenda is

[00:34:18] to silence anyone who has a dissenting opinion that may have a single narrative that they want to push and the only way to combat that is to reclaim ownership of that infrastructure itself and make sure that the people who own the companies that

[00:34:32] own the dirt that own the facility that own the servers that own the network are on the same team so that they don't just bend over when you know someone walks in and has a subpoena or claims to have a warrant they'll actually do the diligence

[00:34:48] and fight back and provide intel to the customer and have the attorneys that actually know how to fight back fight on your behalf to make sure that they don't have to give up anything other than what they absolutely have to you know assuming that you're doing things legally

[00:35:04] and lawfully you know they're going to fight for your right for freedom of speech so that became like that was an explosion in my heart and in my mind at that time and so I just started on that mission like okay

[00:35:24] we need to do this and I at the time was running a podcast called I Love Data Centers where I was literally interviewing all the different infrastructure people who help build the internet as well as a lot of the different owner operators of

[00:35:38] different hosting companies and data center companies and infrastructure companies so I knew all the players and I started calling them up and starting you know relaying the story that I think I just told and you'd be stunned how many of these folks you know they love Jesus

[00:35:56] and they know what's going on in the world but when push came to shove their answer was Sean I wish you the best this needs to happen but you know my board is going to fire me if they find out that I'm supporting this type of a business

[00:36:12] you know because we have Microsoft, we have Google we have Twitter, we have Facebook there are some of our largest clients and if we lose those companies as clients and we make the news about this you know I'm going to lose my job

[00:36:26] and so I would have that conversation saying look are you kidding me so you're more concerned about your job than you're concerned about doing the right thing is that the conversation you want to have with your lord you claim to be a Christian you claim Christ as king

[00:36:42] with your king when you face him that you couldn't do what you knew to be the right thing to do because you were afraid that unfortunately now I get the conversation I have to have almost daily with people who refuse to do the right thing

[00:37:00] refuse to acknowledge what's really happening because they're afraid on some level so the degree to which you know not just people have been brainwashed into not understanding what's really happening but even those who do understand what's happening are living in this constant state of fear

[00:37:18] that they can't execute and do the right thing because there may be some kind of recourse that's going to create some kind of hardship in their life and so you know I truly believe we live in this time where we've been fed convenience for so long

[00:37:36] that it's just created weak people, weak men and women who have no fortitude and no backbone to truly stand up for what's right and I've seen the hard things like learning how to grow your own food learning how to homestead homeschooling your kids finding jobs with companies

[00:37:56] they're not proactively trying to kill us for me that seems like common sense type of stuff even though it's hard it's interesting, it's fun and I know the Lord is going to provide I just, I trust him and he always does I have no excuse

[00:38:14] I've been in these situations where my back is up against the wall and I have no idea how I'm going to pay salaries for my employees or even pay rent or pay for food and yet the Lord always provides always, every single time he's come through

[00:38:32] so I've experienced it I have no excuse and so that's the conversation that I've had to have constantly where I'm like Lord I just left a very well-paying career doing work that maybe not have been the most fulfilling which is helping data centers

[00:38:48] investors in the data center industry find smarter ways and places to park their capital in data center companies doing what I'm doing now which is really helping companies completely migrate off of big tech and onto non-big tech infrastructure and devices and software and platforms

[00:39:06] but the Lord has smacked me upside the head a handful of times over the last couple of years where I've been pleading with him saying Lord are you sure you want me doing this and he brings me right back to that conversation saying you know

[00:39:18] what I told you to do I made it very abundantly clear and I'm constantly making it abundantly clear by the people I'm putting in front of you so yes Sean keep going on, I got your back don't worry about it

[00:39:32] It's good to know that you can always fall back on the Lord's soft voice because he speaks to us in a soft still voice like he did with Moses whenever he was in the mountain pass but I think that the world has its own way also of gaslighting

[00:39:48] us and being more subtle about it you know and it's still soft voice you might not necessarily know it that it's happening but like you said convenience, making things more convenience we're living in a microwave generation where we've never been able

[00:40:02] when I was a child and you too when we were kids we used to have if we wanted to know something we used to have to walk to the library and crack open a book or at school you know go to the library and crack open a book

[00:40:16] and do research. We had this thing called a catalog right at the library that you had to go and look up an author look up a topic and be able to find the topic you look for but now these kids they can literally open up their phone

[00:40:28] hit a browser where everything is being tracked they instantly put in search words, keywords and instantly bring to their eyes, to their mind instantaneously and people have forgotten about patience, they've forgotten about due diligence they've forgotten about hard work and these kind of things. These are things

[00:40:46] I'm afraid that they're long gone it's gotten so much worse I mean with my teenagers they literally know how to use chat GPT and all these AI tools so my daughter my 14 year old daughter was telling me that the other day she

[00:41:04] we had to write a paper and now we're having to write papers but we have to make sure that she's not using a computer for it because she learned how to go on to the and say write me a two page essay on this

[00:41:18] topic and do it from the voice of a 14 year old you know girl and literally within seconds it cranks out the paper and then you know I'm afraid that I'm afraid that I'm afraid that I'm going to get into this

[00:41:40] I'm afraid that I'm going to get into this authors are doing this audio it's available on audible too authors are going down this route and there's a few ideas in this AI is spitting out this stuff people a speech or I don't know a preamble you know

[00:42:04] whatever you want it literally spits it out for you and people are just going down this road and it's it's becoming more and more of a convenience for them but it's sliding everybody else it's sliding I think it's cheating the customer because creativity

[00:42:22] is leaving and we were created in God's image you know and you got to ask yourself what's that mean well God is a creator and he has an imagination and we were designed like that to be creative to imagine and it's all being taken away from us

[00:42:38] slowly and people suddenly people can't see it but it's happening and you're making a difference with some of the stuff that you're developing so I want to kind of start steering you in that direction if you don't mind tell us a little bit about

[00:42:50] what you're working on right now what you've been doing to help us get out of this rut so that first problem set that needed to be solved for that I was talking about before was the physical infrastructure layer right so no new application that someone creates like

[00:43:08] there's actually some very interesting you know AI catalogs of information that like like not bright part but the health ranger guy brightsion so brightsion has released this basically catalog and database of research that's all you know the homeopathic based in all the studies

[00:43:36] that have been done and even just western science related studies that have been done on COVID the realities of COVID the realities of vitamin D and ivermectin and blah blah blah like you know thousands upon thousands of studies and research that's been done that you can instantly search

[00:43:52] using an AI tool so you can type in questions like what is the most efficient way for me to address or cure a certain type of ailment or disease or even you know a certain type of wound that you may have and it will

[00:44:10] give you you know what WebMD is supposed to do but WebMD is really just a voice for the pharmaceutical industry and has been for since day one basically so it will give you that type of intel so my point is this is without owning that infrastructure and controlling

[00:44:28] that infrastructure you're lost because none of those tools exist because you can just literally flip a switch and turn it off you know bye bye really cool AI tool that you just created that's actually pretty based and that's actually going to help people

[00:44:42] if it's sitting on Amazon Web services or Google or sitting on Amazon or sitting on GoDaddy and they think that that content conflicts with the narrative that needs to be told to the people they just flip a switch and turn off your content which is exactly what

[00:45:00] happened to Parler on January 6th if you remember I do so that was the big light bulb moment that went off for most conservatives that I was screaming at and you know talking to I don't want to say screaming at but I was very vehemently warning that this

[00:45:16] was going to happen and the response was Sean you're crazy we have the first amendment here in America these companies can't do that they have the terms of service that prevents them from just turning me off for no reason and so that

[00:45:30] you know forced the conversation be saying look you don't understand who we're dealing with they don't care about our Constitution they don't care if it's unlawful they have more money and they have more means and motive to make this happen that they simply don't care they will

[00:45:48] make it disappear and then they'll find any creative reason to justify doing so and then they'll draw out the legal process which at the point that you may win the case your business is bankrupt and you may get a large settlement and that settlement won't get

[00:46:02] paid out for another couple you know 5-10 years which at one at that point it's too late so you finally got paid but you're probably dead at that point so I said look this has to happen so we started building these companies and I started

[00:46:18] finding investors and started finding individuals that actually had the fortitude to step out of big tech arena and start building infrastructure so once that was built and that foundational layer was built and I knew okay we actually have the facilities we have the investors we have

[00:46:36] the capital backing them we have the hosting companies the software development firms the people who can create and build on infrastructure that's owned and operated by people on our team now we can move to the next major problem set and I'm an entrepreneur you know

[00:46:50] self-ignal and self-admit the second company starts growing and scaling I get disinterested and I want to go build the next new thing that has to get created and built so the next new thing that needed to be created and built in that process

[00:47:04] was the reality that you know Doug if I you know we're at war right now right so if we're at war and I give you a weapon to go fight in this war and I tell you that that weapon has a GPS tracking device on it

[00:47:18] it has a camera and a microphone and it's tracking everything that you're doing and it's also connected to every other device and every other weapon that is being held by everyone around you and it's controlled by the enemy all this information is being

[00:47:32] fed to the enemy and that enemy can literally turn it on and turn it off at will without you even knowing would you use that weapon of course not right no one in the right mind would use that weapon even if you had no other weapon around

[00:47:48] you you'd be better off not using that weapon and go create a new weapon right so I bring that up because that is literally what everyone is carrying around in their pockets every day who has an iPhone who has a Google Android device

[00:48:02] who is sitting in front of their laptop that's running Microsoft Windows of any flavor who's sitting in front of their MacBook that's running macOS of any flavor if you're using the operating system it is an operating system that is literally owned by the companies that are censoring you

[00:48:24] that are trying to kill you at the end of the day it is their device they own that device they control the device you're simply using their device and yet that is what 99 plus percent of the population is using today literally devices owned by the

[00:48:46] enemy that is tracking and monitoring everything that they're saying everything that they're doing every application that they open in some cases it's even tracking what your eyes are doing on the screen while you're on a website or while you're using an application they know you in many

[00:49:06] cases better than you know yourself because they have so much data on you and when I travel around the country right now training people about this and I do three, four five hour seminars on just this topic on all the different ways we're getting

[00:49:20] screwed by big tech and then all the things that we can do about it I get people who will be like you know I had a thought the other day and then I saw an advertisement for it you know is it reading my mind right

[00:49:32] and that's a great question and I don't disagree that there's technology that can do that in fact I know for a fact that there is technology that can do that and if you look at the patents for the air pods these air pods

[00:49:46] these earbuds from Apple that people are constantly wearing all the time look at the patent on that product itself it is absolutely frightening because it specifically says that not only can that thing push frequencies into your brain not just your ear but your brain

[00:50:04] but it's also constantly receiving frequencies from your brain that's crazy I never even heard of that before yes and for you know these airbods to talk to each other they have to send that frequency between each other so not only is one of these things getting a signal

[00:50:22] from your phone that you're connected to or the laptop you're connected to but then it sends it through your head from one bud to the next bud right so through your brain right so I'm not saying that that doesn't exist but Doug if I knew everything

[00:50:38] about you I knew where you were going I knew what you were buying I knew every conversation you were having I knew every website you went to even if you you know we're scrolling through something on Facebook or scrolling through something on some website

[00:50:52] and for a fraction of a second you hesitated on a certain ad that popped up right I log that I record that and so I know that you're probably interested in something like that right right and so I can then feed you advertising so from a marketing perspective

[00:51:10] it makes total sense it's brilliant right total sense brilliant you can target people to a crazy level to push products and services that you know that they're going to be interested in so that's how people think that these things are like reading their minds

[00:51:26] it's really they're not reading your minds they just know you better than you know yourself and they know what you're going to want before you're going to want it right so this is again we're living in this brave new world paradigm where the future

[00:51:38] is now we're literally living in you know Star Trek Star Wars we have this type of tech that's here and most people are oblivious absolutely oblivious to how they are personally affected by this because not only can I influence what products and services you're buying

[00:51:56] but I can influence what you believe to be true and what you believe to be false through what we know most people now are waking up to the reality that if you do a Google search Google literally determines what shows up so they can make entire things disappear

[00:52:14] that may exist if you go searching for it on a different browser so entire topics answers to things can be totally different than what they actually are but when people think oh through the lobbying efforts and through the marketing money that was spent

[00:52:30] when we think of searching something online we think oh well let's go Google it right so Google has created has this position of authority now of truth of whether or not something is real or not so now when you go search for something using Google

[00:52:46] and you get a certain answer you believe that to be true even though Google is very clearly manipulating what isn't is not true very simple for you know whether you're a Trump fan or not it doesn't matter if you were to go to Google in 2015

[00:53:02] or 2016 or even today right and you were search the name Trump right 10 out of maybe 11 as probably even more than that I would say 95 out of 100 of the articles that would show up would be something negative putting Trump in a negative light

[00:53:20] whereas if you were to search for Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden or Barack Obama 95 out of 100 of them would be putting them in a positive light right that shifts the narrative and creates the narrative such that people start viewing things and it's a very simple example

[00:53:40] that I'm giving but that happens across the board across everything so what I'm working on today is educating people about all the different ways that they are being manipulated by these companies that as you said make over a trillion dollars one trillion T as in Tom

[00:54:02] trillion dollars a year these five companies Google Apple Microsoft Amazon and Facebook make over a trillion dollars a year and they spend tens of billions of dollars every single year on candidates causes and organizations that are trying to kill us like let's just be blunt about it

[00:54:24] they're trying to kill us they're trying to dumb us down they're trying to control us they're trying to make our kids stupid they're trying to destroy the food system that we thrive on that we could be thriving on these are evil companies

[00:54:40] and you follow the money at these companies and you look at the ownership and the board directorships and the equity stock ownership and you follow the individuals at these organizations and you what's their ethos well they tell you what their ethos is they're at the

[00:54:54] UN conventions they're at the world economic forum conventions they're at the Bilderberg conventions they're over in Northern California at the uh god what's the name of it secret secret club they're all kinds of stuff that's starting to come out on Bohemian Grove like they're they are telling you

[00:55:14] we want a one world government we want central bank digital currencies we want to get rid of nation state status around the world we want to dissolve borders we want to depopulate the planet down to 350 million people how many we have near nine billion people on the planet

[00:55:32] so they're going to exterminate eight and a half billion people is their objective that's an even lower number because I remember the Georgia guide stones before they blew up with it was on there for 500 people max cap right in perpetual balance yeah 500 million right 500 500 million I'm sorry yeah

[00:55:50] yeah it was nice I think it was more like 350 million but it was around anyway between 350 and 500 million is a lot less than nine billion that we have now right yeah so it used to be that we would talk about these

[00:56:02] things and people would say Sean you're crazy this is this is insanity now they are blatantly at conventions putting this in front of your face telling you this is exactly what we're trying to accomplish and they are unapologetic about it right so my job is to educate those

[00:56:18] who are already awake right because I truly believe that if you haven't had some kind of spark of holy crap things are not what they seem I need to dig deeper and learn more about what's really going on in the world right now

[00:56:32] if you haven't had that spark over the last couple years based on what's gone down there's no no documentary I can put in front of you there's nothing I can say that is really going to shift that narrative for you internally that is going to have

[00:56:44] to be an act of God working in your life so my job these days is to provide those who are on the front lines who are seeking truth with the tools that they need to be successful so that they can operate in this world without

[00:56:58] using the tools that are literally controlled and owned by the enemy because if we're at war our communications our comms are absolutely critical absolutely essential and if our comms are literally owned by the enemy and they know exactly where we're going to be

[00:57:14] before we're there then it's no wonder they are kicking our butt on the battlefield right now that's what's so terrifying about this you know the upcoming digital currency that's going to happen I mean it's coming and this because they want to what do they call it

[00:57:36] I thought dehumanize transhuman they want to transhumanize us right they want us to merge with technology and they've been working on this for some time a lot of people believe that it could be maybe I don't know much about it but the whole 5G thing

[00:57:50] when it first started coming out everybody was kind of freaking out a little bit because 5G you would know more about it than I do but it puts out all kinds of our information that could have that affects us our brains right

[00:58:06] tell me a little bit about that well let's say a deep rabbit hole so what most people believe to be 5G is the truly scary technology that they have deployed in a lot of the tier one cities and by that I mean like New York and San Francisco

[00:58:20] and Chicago and Houston and what not big cities they're large devices they're like 3-4 feet wide by about 5-6 feet tall if not taller they're big panels and they push out high frequency but short distance so it can't go very far

[00:58:40] it can only go you know like 50 yards 80 yards for it to be effective but it's very powerful microwaves it's literally like you with the door open you can't turn the microwave on with the door open but if you could turn on your microwave with the door open

[00:58:56] and just put your face in it that's how dangerous these microwaves are coming off this thing which blows my mind because years ago when they first started to deploy this I was in New York and they had one of these 5G systems deployed

[00:59:10] and sure enough I opened my phone up and I checked out what network was available and you could get a gig up a gig down just walking down the street in New York coming from this tower but they had it set up so that you could

[00:59:22] walk in front of it and you could like see the map of the city and get directions to where you're going and I was like they're literally having people standing right in front of this microwaved tower it's not a tower because it's on the ground

[00:59:36] that's pushing out this dangerous level of frequency so people are getting cooked alive while they're trying to figure out where they need to go downtown New York my point is this, that is one type of 5G 5th generation tech that was deployed

[00:59:50] it's only been deployed in a handful of cities they've actually learned and realized that this tech is way too expensive to deploy there's not very many use cases as they thought that they were going to be people really don't need one gig up one gig down per second

[01:00:02] you just don't need that much bandwidth there's very few things that need that much bandwidth and so they're not really deploying more of them so what they did and when you hear AT&T T-Mobile Verizon has nationwide 5G coverage

[01:00:16] what they're talking about and this is a brilliant marketing uh ploy that they played is they changed a 4G uh LTE multi-point tower tech that they had which means that you can get from multiple towers um data so you could get more data coming down

[01:00:36] to your phone because it's coming from multiple uh towers at the same time does that make sense yeah so it's not like because I was thinking and you've already enlightened me quite a bit just just listen um that when my phone says 5G on it

[01:00:50] I'm not getting these dangerous things radiation things going through into my head so you are but it's not from your it's most likely not from your phone right so that's that's where people have to understand so let's get to that let's get to the device

[01:01:04] and what 5G means on the device because it's it's an important question because a lot of people who say that you know I refuse to buy a 5G phone because it's 5G and I'm like well what does that mean let's understand what that means so that 4G LTE

[01:01:20] multi-point service was named was rebranded as 5G which allowed all the carriers to say that they have 5G coverage nationwide so when you're driving around and you see towers and you see stuff on these towers what you're looking at is that it's that

[01:01:36] second thing I was talking about is that 4G LTE multi-point service is that dangerous yes it is is it as dangerous as the stuff that's downtown the major metros no it's not um it's no one near as dangerous as the stuff that's in the major metros right so

[01:01:54] with that understanding let's talk about the phones and when a phone says 5G is it's 5G capable or it has 5G in the name nearly every single smartphone that's been made and manufactured since like 2015-2016 is 5G capable whether it has the 5G in the name

[01:02:12] of the phone or not it can still do 5G so the people who are not buying a device because it is or isn't 5G in the name are simply not fully understanding that the device that they probably just bought is 5G capable they just don't know it

[01:02:28] the more important piece here is that the radiation that we're concerned about is in the air around us no matter what your phone is really not going to change that paradigm so all the AM radio FM radio if you're a ham radio guy you know

[01:02:44] the signal is everywhere it's all around you you turn on your radio it gets the signal right because it's everywhere the signal is everywhere all the time it's the same with these towers the signal is everywhere all the time no matter where you are

[01:03:00] so we are as a species now in these markets constantly being bombarded by these frequencies constantly and when you start to understand how these devices work it starts to make a little bit more sense but that's part of the training that I offer is I actually

[01:03:18] spend a good amount of time talking about well how does what is the internet how does it work how is it that when I make a phone call and I move throughout you know as if I'm driving that I can maintain that call

[01:03:32] and how does it instantly pick up and find the other person on the other line and know where they're at right and if you understood and as you start to understand these technologies and how these technology how they work and operate

[01:03:46] then you can become a far better operator and smarter operator of the tool that is the phone that you carry around with you all the time or the laptop that you use and it becomes less and less in a tool of the enemy and it becomes your tool

[01:04:02] that you control that you own you dictate what happens on this thing versus them dictating what's happening or not happening on this thing so from a radiation standpoint your 5G capable phone is not kicking off any more or less radiation than any other smartphone around you

[01:04:22] I have an article on our website that's just on this topic actually we have the research and we know exactly how much radiation these phones kick off and it's a nominal difference between like the brand new iPhone whatever they're on you know 800 and the Pixel 3 from like 2017 2016 2017

[01:04:44] so that radiation is going to be there regardless with your phone whether it can pick up that 5G signal or not does that make sense it does make sense let's take a real quick break and I want to ask you a couple there's some terms that are growing

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[01:06:20] some questions because I'm very curious I'm going around talking Sean about agenda 30 formerly known as agenda 21 and there's it's a spiritual war there's things going on in our world and it's all moving us towards a one world economy where I think we're going to be pushed into transhumanism

[01:06:44] because it's it's I believe counter to it is a second I know it's counter spiritually to what God designed us to be he designed us to be in his image but we are now there's powers that be trying to transform us into another image

[01:07:02] and so there's some terms that are coming up that are in the internet things like this and I want to ask you what these terms are and you could just tell me in your words or elaborate on what you know and how they've been defined to you

[01:07:14] and let us know what they are what is the internet of things so IOT internet of things phraseology has now been around for a long time but it's really any device you know now they have microwaves and lawnmowers and even smokers and cookers

[01:07:38] that are connected to the internet so it's really all these tiny little devices that we use on a regular basis that are connected to the internet so when it becomes an internet of things you have all these things that are connected to the internet is the

[01:07:56] the short answer the crazy thing is that most of these things that are connected to the internet are very easily hackable and so many of the what are called DDoS attacks so it's a basically you're flooding a server that a website may exist on with traffic

[01:08:20] so the general traffic for your website may only be a couple megabits per second or gigabits per second but if you can get and activate hundreds of thousands or millions or hundreds of millions of these devices that have been hacked

[01:08:34] and you can request for information to a server you can flood that server with terabytes worth of traffic and take down that website and that is a common method of hackers to try to take down content that they don't want to exist which is a whole fun conversation

[01:08:54] that we could have about anonymous and what anonymous was and what it's morphed into but it's probably another conversation for another time but that's what the internet of things is I'll leave it at that before we go on another story in another rant it's okay because I got

[01:09:10] a good friend of mine, it's one of the show Ryan Scow, he's an author of these kind of things and he writes all kinds of I hate to say I call it faction it's fact based fiction if that makes any sense but imagine if you will

[01:09:28] I've read the back of the book, two of you are not available and we know that there's coming a time where we're going to have to take a mark so imagine if you will that we're going to have to be planted with an identifier just a simple number

[01:09:44] now imagine if you will and I'm gonna say it hard for you to imagine because you're way into this but you've got a smart phone and you're living in a smart city and everything is connected to the internet so you're walking down the road and everything fed to

[01:10:00] whoever, the power into the internet of things everything knows what you're listening to and then your heart rate picks up and then somebody is notified that your heart is fibrillating and then automatically an ambulance is called before you know what you're on the ground

[01:10:22] for somebody can even notice and call for help the EMTs are already on scene all this sounds really good to people who are not aware that there's a more broad and very malicious thing on the horizon it's very interesting to me that we're all kind of subtly

[01:10:44] kind of coasting unawares drifting if you will into this together and I love what you're doing like I said I love the world and we gotta find a way to reach them and you're coming up with ways to help us do that but

[01:11:02] we got to get the word out somehow some way and you were talking a while ago about things being easily hackable that brings me to blockchain can you tell me what blockchain is yes simply put blockchain is a network of storage devices that are constantly updating each other

[01:11:22] almost like a database in my world databases in a redundant world you want to have one database on one side of the country that's updating another database on the other side of the country so that the information that's being put into one

[01:11:40] mirrors in the other so that if any one of them is lost or goes down you still haven't lost all your data right so that concept of redundancy and having data in multiple locations is really what the blockchain is to the nth degree so imagine millions of servers

[01:11:58] that are all updating each other real time with a whole bunch of data so that you can't go in and make a change to that data once it's stored once you know a contract for example and there's very specific use cases for blockchain people originally

[01:12:16] wanted to say that blockchain was going to solve every problem known to man the reality is it's not the case but it is very good for certain things like a contract if you have a contract that is going to be fixed in time and not changed

[01:12:30] that you want stored perpetually you could put it in the blockchain and it will be there forever no one's ever going to be able to go in and modify the content on that document because all these other devices that are going to say that's not the same record

[01:12:46] that we have on our end so it's storing of information in a fixed manner across many many devices so when it comes down to it it's all about control for example let's say the system or the enemy as you call it they don't want Sean Patrick Terrio

[01:13:10] to do this they can't go in you can't go in and change where you were where you spent money on because let's say you go to eBay and you make a purchase on eBay we'll say 100 million servers across the world will know that you went there

[01:13:28] and made this purchase on eBay correct yes that's scary yeah well that's already happening I mean Amazon for example were eBay right eBay is currently tracking that right now they know where you were they know what you bought credit card you used and as a result

[01:13:48] of that they know all the other purchases that you've made they know the other websites that you were on before you made the purchase and that's where the tools and technologies that you use today for so long as we have we still have the freedom

[01:14:02] and the ability to make the choices of what tools and technologies and applications we use to do things we sure as heck better because by not doing so what we're doing is feeding this beast with more data and data has become the new

[01:14:16] oil that they then can sell and mine from you you're the oil well that they're just constantly pulling and mining data from so people who are like oh well I didn't pay anything for my phone it was free so you know I don't want to switch

[01:14:32] the phone that I'm using because I didn't have to pay for it it's free and I'm like yeah but they're still making money off of you Apple is still making money off of you Google all these companies are making money off of you because you have a profile

[01:14:44] and it knows everything about you in this profile constantly being updated by all the new data points that they know about where you just went what application you just opened when you opened it all this information what conversation you just had with who it's all being recorded

[01:15:00] and for so long as they're mining this data you have a value but the less data they have on you and the last point through which they had that data on you the less valuable you are because if they don't know what the hell

[01:15:14] you've been doing over the last two three years your stock price to them plummets you're not as valuable to them they can't sell you as high as they could as if you were to be constantly giving them data in the system

[01:15:28] so that's another key piece of this the blockchain piece I don't think is really the concern I think the concern is the mining and tracking of all this data whether it's put in a blockchain type of database or not really doesn't matter to me to be honest

[01:15:44] what makes this even more scary to me is because you got all these big tech companies who was in bed with the government and now we got this push Biden recently wrote an executive order to I don't know what it was a committee I think

[01:16:00] to oversee the centralized digital currency that is being pushed and what's really really bad when I go to my speaking engagements I tell people to call their congress person and to resist this push for CDC because we don't want the government in charge of digital currency

[01:16:22] when the government is in bed with big tech and big tech is tracking you and they don't like let's say they get some information from Facebook that you bought a gas and coal pepper flag and they don't like to put it on the front yard

[01:16:34] they have you now red mark red line red tape they know exactly where you stand politically even if it's your very first post ever or purchase ever online they know where you're standing at what your alliances and affiliations are politically because you bought

[01:16:50] what could be considered in some a rebel flag right yeah so I have conversations like this literally every day with customers when I bring up that very thing people are like oh well there I'm already on the radar I'm already being tracked you know screw them they can

[01:17:10] I'm preaching the gospel to them all day every day who can hear me the Fed agent that's been assigned to me and I'm like bro two things first and foremost if you think you have a dedicated person who's only listening to you all day every day

[01:17:24] your ego must be way crazy inflated because the reality is every conversation is being transcribed and is being basically put into a massive database they don't listen to anything that you've said until they want to until there's a key word that they want to go search

[01:17:38] for from you for a very specific reason there's no one person who you're gonna preach the gospel to at the NSA or the CIA or the FBI by you using these devices so don't kid yourself the second thing is this you're perpetually in the system

[01:17:58] by continuing to buy things and do things on these devices you need to remove yourself from that system that paradigm doesn't change by you saying oh well they're tracking me anyway well why can that's like saying well I'm you know I'm hungry so I'm just

[01:18:14] gonna continue to eat junk food because it's in front of me no you have a choice you have a very clear choice that you are making by continuing to live in that matrix by choosing to live in that matrix you can get out of

[01:18:26] that matrix and you need to get out of that matrix it drives me crazy when I hear people have that argument or come back with that argument because usually come back with like such a pompous attitude about I don't care that they're tracking me like

[01:18:40] it doesn't matter to me I'm like well it should matter it should all be reasons I remember when the when the Patriot Act was written I'm like oh my gosh like this is the beginning of the end and now I'm seeing this centralized digital currency

[01:18:52] thing coming on like this is the beginning of the end you know and when the when the government is able to literally shut off your bank account with the push of a button because they don't like something that you're doing that's insane

[01:19:04] if for you to take us a seat back and sit in the back seat or even in the passenger seat and say you know I don't really care because you know they're already tracking me well maybe maybe they are and all your stuff I'm sure and I tell

[01:19:16] about this all the time in my surviving martial law lecture that I give the Utah data center was built to store all this stuff and that server is getting larger and larger all the time and all of our stuff everything that we tweet

[01:19:30] everything that we text everything that we talk about on the phone all of our searches that we do in the search engine that doesn't matter if it's duck duck go or google it's all stored somewhere it just doesn't disappear unless you have some kind of special device

[01:19:42] and a browser to make sure that it's not being stored I love that you brought up at Utah data center so guess what that Utah data center is one of thousands that they have and maintain across the country I didn't know that right so what was funny

[01:20:02] is when I saw that thing being built and on the news around it this is like the typical salesman hand wavy trick right they want you to look over here look over here and pay attention to this thing over here and not pay attention to the reality

[01:20:14] right the reality is that was one data center of literally thousands that they have and that they our government maintains across the country yes they've been doing some consolidation of those data centers over the years but they still maintain literally thousands of these facilities all over the country

[01:20:32] so I think it's interesting to me when people always point to that Utah facility because that's all you've been told right that's what you've heard about that's what you know about but these facilities exist everywhere and for those who are in the industry like

[01:20:46] myself it's funny because we can literally be driving down a freeway and pass by a building and know instantly that's a data center right you can tell by the network infrastructure that's outside that you might be able to see the crack and cooling infrastructure and units around it

[01:21:02] the diesel generators that might be sitting outside around it there's very clear earmarks of one of these facilities and they're all over the place it's clear that I'm going to do another deep dive on this and update my PowerPoint that's just crazy yeah thank you for that

[01:21:18] so next next question in direct alignment with that is what is big data so big data is literally everything we've just been talking about so it's having massive data sets so think of like actually before we get into big dad I want to make a very clear point

[01:21:37] because there are a lot of people who have this black pill what we call a black pill mentality right they're like well I'm already being tracked you know the world's going to end anyway so what right it's the same people who will tell

[01:21:49] you well there's no point in me growing my own food in my backyard or my front yard because they've got chemtrails that are going to drop you know crazy stuff on top of me and my food and poison my food anyway or

[01:22:03] you know the water that comes from the muni is poison and it's just going to poison my stuff anyway right that's a ridiculous attitude to have if that's truly your attitude I want to pray for you but you're literally living in a bunker somewhere like doom

[01:22:21] and gloom scenario right that's not going to prevent me from still trying to grow my own food and trying to protect my family right you can always find an excuse as to why you shouldn't do something but you still have to forge ahead anyway

[01:22:37] same mentality is like well if we're completely screwed and if they're going to enforce the cbd sees and the whole world's going to become like communist china and there's nothing we can do about it then what's the point right going back to the biblical perspective we are

[01:22:53] called to be saints we're called to be angels we're called to the front lines no matter what despite the fact that we know that lucifer has control of the planet right now we know that god still has a purpose and has a design

[01:23:09] at the end of the day this world is a test I truly believe of our fortitude and if I were a king I would want to be testing my subjects too to make sure that they are actually loyal to me and my will

[01:23:23] so all this bs that we see going on around us for me is just a test I view it as a test as a big test and it's you know maybe it's the gaming background that I have and I'm trying to gamify life through this

[01:23:37] but I think it's all scriptural it's all biblical this world is but a test he is testing us in all these moments and all of these things and by having these hard times that we're going through it's forcing people to get out of their

[01:23:49] comfort zones so we have to get comfortable being uncomfortable so that we can truly ask ourselves the hard questions and deal with the harsh realities so that we know when our back is up against the wall and someone's got a gun to your head and says

[01:24:03] do you believe that Christ is king and are you going to continue to serve him or are you going to serve me and mana you know what decision are you really going to make people like oh I totally would make the right decision in that situation

[01:24:15] would you you won't know until you're tried right so I think anyway I wanted to make sure that I got that point out that this black pill mentality of well they're tracking me all the time anyway everywhere you know the satellites and space and facial recognition on everything

[01:24:31] that doesn't mean that you just check out and you give up you still have to fight the fight and you still have to find creative ways to participate and to protect yourself and the people around you we still have our marching orders but it's like

[01:24:45] I don't know if I told you this or not but I was a preacher for 20 years and I can't tell you how many sermons I preach where I literally called this present life that we live in kind of a boot camp and I used

[01:24:57] my own experiences in boot camp you know cause I was in the Marines to kind of use that as an analogy and I wasn't a seal but you and I probably and many others know that the seals when they're going through their training there's a bell

[01:25:11] just up not too far away when they're done all they got to do is go and ding that I mean they can't make it they're done they're done trying that's kind of what we're seeing here with like what you were saying

[01:25:21] with the person well I'm not even going to bother to make my own food or grow my own food because they're trying to kill me anyway or you know why not they're already tracking me well they're already dinged in the bell they're done they're checking out

[01:25:33] we're being tested we're being tried and nobody ever said this life was going to be easy that is going to be an easy thing to do boot camp's not easy it was hard it was one of the hardest things I've ever done in my life but

[01:25:45] it's the same thing in this world when we step over from this temporal life into eternity and are able to know all things and be as he is then only then will we truly understand why we went through the things we went through

[01:25:59] because you went through what you went through to share your story and I've gone through things to share my story great yeah and I think it's Lucifer who's sitting there who's giving you that mentality of well things should be easy well I should have it easy well I

[01:26:15] deserve this well I need this I want this well why can't I have this you know it's not right for me to be a servant to someone else like I want to be my own man determine my own path and I think that's the

[01:26:33] hard thing I think for a lot of liberty minded people I meet a lot of libertarians who don't know Christ and that's the key and I was there in my life I spent a number of years having that conflict internally

[01:26:49] of you know who do I really want to be subservient to God and have a fear of God and I really didn't understand it until I started really spending time in Scripture reading Scripture digging you know talking with a handful of my different spiritual mentors

[01:27:05] and my father and people and really exploring what that really meant and understand that there's such a freedom that comes when you start to give your will to his will and understand that his will is no more than wanting what's best for you entirely

[01:27:23] and wants you to do the hard things yes do the hard things but those hard things are going to make you stronger and better I agree and you run a business and I've been in leadership positions for many many years it's easier to be directed

[01:27:39] to let you sit in the co-policy let somebody else pilot it's easier you know relinquishing your life to the Lord and following his footsteps letting him guide you it's a better way it's always going to be a better way but if you're not

[01:27:57] in tune with that then you're following the marching orders of this present world that we live in and there's a road that goes another way and it's not the way that the Lord wants to go because Jesus actually said that the way and straight is the gate

[01:28:15] that leads to eternal damnation but narrow is the path that leads to eternal salvation and few there be that go that way the world is on that path the world is going to be swallowing and slowly moving into this new transhumanism thing

[01:28:31] and I'm thankful for what you've done tell us a little bit about ghost laptops and ghost phones yes the basic premise is they're running open source operating systems and the real short description there is it's the difference between being able to see the blueprints of a building

[01:28:53] where you know where the plumbing is you know where all the walls have been laid you know where the electrical is you can see everything and if there's any change that's made to said building that those plans are updated so you know exactly what's going on

[01:29:07] so for some people look at that and say well that's a security risk if you can see everything in the building then people know how to attack it and that is true but that also means that the users and the coders also can see those same threats too

[01:29:25] and they can adjust them and fix them accordingly as those threats become known invisible and the other key is you as a user know if it's been fixed or not so if you identify and say hey there's one door on the second floor

[01:29:39] that makes it super easy for someone to grab a ladder and jump in through and someone says okay we fix that you can then verify if they fixed it or not right so that's open source concept closed source software which is Google Android which is iOS

[01:29:55] Microsoft Windows which is macOS which is all these other big software companies who control, centralize their IP centralize all this data and they don't give anyone access to it other than our three letter agencies they don't want you to know what they're doing

[01:30:11] and they claim and say well this is for intellectual property reasons I firmly believe one of the major reasons they don't want us to see and know what they're doing with the softwares because they have blatant and open back doors that they've provided

[01:30:25] to other companies and to our three letter agencies so that they can see and know and being part of infregard that these back doors have been provided from day one when Microsoft for example was in their antitrust meetings they were able to get out

[01:30:41] of that squeaky clean because they basically wrote a contract that said that they will provide perpetually back door access to the US government and the intel agencies within their software you know moving forward and in return the government was going to push them

[01:30:57] into the marketplace and make them you know the number one software company in operating system in the world which is brilliant if you're the US government for national security reasons because then you've got corporations and governments installing an operating system and running their businesses that they

[01:31:15] have full access to and can see what they see and hear what they hear on that end so brilliant from US government perspective but that paradigm still exists so when you regain control of your operating system by running an open source operating system nothing happens on that device

[01:31:31] without you giving express permissions for it to happen so all your applications sit in their own little sandboxed environment and they can't talk to any of your hardware or any other application without you giving it permission so the paradigm now on your iOS device or your

[01:31:53] Android device or your google android device or your Windows device is when you download piece of software and you click I agree with the terms of service it instantly gets access to everything that it wants access to on your device you have no idea really what

[01:32:11] you just gave it access to unless you actually read the terms of service agreement which you may or may not have read and as we found with big tech if you go to any of our social media sites on if you just look up mark 3 7 and may arcade 3 7

[01:32:25] which is scriptural by the way and you can find that on the about us section on our website as to why we call the business mark 3 7 all these different applications basically are sitting in their own sandbox oh so the terms of service right so when you download something

[01:32:41] you really have no idea what you just downloaded oh so on our social media websites this is where I was going on all of our social media so on our twitter on our true social gab telegram sites those are really the key ones every single day

[01:32:59] we're pushing out articles that prove definitively that big tech is basically screwing us over and it's their court cases specific court cases that they have lost where they say in their terms of service and they say in their contracts that they promise

[01:33:15] that they are not going to be collecting x y z information from their users and yet they are and has been proven that they are right so even if they say in their terms of service that they're not going to be mining x y z data from you

[01:33:29] they still are and the way these firms operate is no different than the financial firms and that they know ahead of time that if they're going to make two billion dollars on this product they're going to set aside 500 million dollars or billion dollars of that two billion

[01:33:45] dollars in legal fees in dollars that they may have to pay out to the SEC or to the FCC or whoever right if it's ever found out that they're doing all the stuff that they're not supposed to be doing but they don't care because they've made and netted

[01:34:01] a billion dollars net on top of the billion that they just had to pay out right and they do this over and over and over again and this is when you start to realize the rules and laws the rule of law does not apply to

[01:34:17] these companies because they are not held accountable there's no one holding them accountable and they're not being held accountable because they're literally paying off the judges and the attorneys and everybody and the legislators everyone through this road so that they don't have to be held accountable

[01:34:33] this is not crazy concept anymore this is literally what happens in a world that believes that money buys you anything and everything that you could ever need when you worship money and you hold money up the dollar up or whatever it is up as your God

[01:34:49] then that is what is going to control and dictate how you operate in the world so if you have Christ up and that's what you're rooting for and aiming towards you operate in a completely different paradigm mindset so I

[01:35:03] totally went off on that tangent but it's totally relevant so that's what open source is that's what's happening on these laptops and that's what's happening on these devices so people ask well can I run XYZ application on this phone can I run my

[01:35:19] tracking app that I have for my kids there's one called Life360 and while I really still want to know where my 15 year old daughter is at any given time and track her whereabouts wherever she's going just in case I try to talk people out of that mindset

[01:35:33] because yes the world is a different place today as it was back then but I really think we need to train people with situational awareness that we don't have to be tracking everybody all the time but yes you can run that app

[01:35:47] I can also give you a firearm Doug I can train you on how to use that firearm and you can still take that firearm even after years of training and accidentally shoot yourself in the foot right I can't prevent you from doing

[01:35:59] that even though I trained you on how to use that firearm the same thing applies with tech right I can you can still download Facebook but you are going to be flagged and you're going to get the notifications that say do you want to give Facebook access to

[01:36:13] your contacts your GPS your your wifi access to whatever all these different things on your device you're going to get that notification versus it instantly automatically getting those notifications and then you can decide how you want to operate from there

[01:36:31] now through that process you're going to become more and more aware of what all these different apps are really wanting access to and then you can start asking yourself do I really need this app do I need this thing downloaded

[01:36:42] on my phone or is there another way I can access the information that I'm trying to get access to via my browser so if you're using brave browser for example brave then serves as a firewall between you and that company so that they don't have access to

[01:36:57] anything on your device but the second you download that app which they're going to remind you over and over again are you sure you don't want to download our app it's going to be so much better if you download our app the second you download that app

[01:37:09] that app is then going to start requesting access to all these different things on your phone and when you say your phone in this laptop in question like I just can't take my MacBook and make it do what I want to do because it's fixed like

[01:37:23] they control Apple controls everything right you're talking about heading over to mark 3 7 dot com where we're I think it's very affordable the ghost laptop for example basic lightweight affordable utility laptop 95% of us simply need something that works and isn't running $495 yeah and that's just

[01:37:43] a laptop that's a mid condition refurbished laptop that we've loaded a flavor of Linux on and Linux is no new thing and it's been around for 35 years and thankfully Linux has evolved over the last four or five years such that the user experience is almost

[01:37:59] exactly the same as using the Windows machine or using a Mac OS machine in fact you can tweak the settings on most of the Linux user user experiences UI is your user interfaces to look and feel exactly like what you're used to the

[01:38:17] difference is the guts of that right the guts of that operating system you now control you own it Apple doesn't Microsoft doesn't you own it so you can take any laptop I could take your MacBook for example that you can send it to us

[01:38:31] or if you're near one of the people on our team we could come to you and we could basically take your files that you need put them on an external drive we could reflash your laptop to be running a flavor of Linux make sure that all

[01:38:45] the great drivers are working correctly so that you can still connect to your printer and everything else that you need to be connected to and then everything works and then put the files back on the machine and you'd be still using the same MacBook

[01:38:57] using a Linux operating system we have customers almost daily that are shipping us their devices and we're doing that for them and then we're shipping it back shipping the laptop back to them but for those who really for people who have extra devices

[01:39:11] laying around which most people have PCs laying around from five years ago seven years ago and what's funny is even like a 2012 you know Dell laptop once you take that Microsoft Windows operating system off or the Mac operating system off and you load Linux on it

[01:39:27] because there's so little bloatware and crapware on that operating system it runs so much faster it's like a brand new machine that just works way way faster so that works for people who have those extra devices that can take the time to ship us

[01:39:45] their stuff but if you want a new if you're in the market for a new laptop or a new device you can buy one from us and we can send it to you but for me these are all just tools right the phone itself

[01:39:55] we call it a ghost phone we're loading with something called GrapheneOS which is the most secure and private mobile operating system and then preloading it with about 20 different applications which is kind of unique in that those apps will get you up and running very quickly

[01:40:09] we give training and tutorials on how to use the apps that come with the laptop and the phone so that you know what they do and you can kind of learn how to use all these things once you get the device that's awesome and you got a community

[01:40:27] yeah well the last thing is we have a huge community that's growing now of people who are using these tools and trying to help other people and train other people to use these tools so because we don't have a billion dollar marketing budget in fact

[01:40:41] I don't even have thousands of dollars to run a marketing budget these days we can't be advertising the stuff all over the place so it's only through community word of mouth that people are really picking up on this but we have hundreds of customers now who are online

[01:40:55] who are helping each other so someone says hey I'm having this issue you know I don't understand why this is happening before anyone on my team can even respond we have people in our community who are responding saying hey great question

[01:41:07] I had that same issue here's how I resolved it so that's really cool and that's specifically on our telegram channel if you're on telegram we've got a telegram chat channel where our community is pretty actively engaged I see also because I was on mark37.com

[01:41:21] and I clicked a link for resources and shot over there and I see that there's some general it's like a general tab or forum I guess a place for people to connect your ideas and ask questions yeah that's where a lot of our customers in fact

[01:41:39] I take a lot of the questions that come in through that chat channel and or through just our support at mark37.com that come in and I push them in there so as customers have questions about topics that are primarily related to the phones ghost phones

[01:41:53] that's where I push it one of our business partners Jeffrey Peterson who's an awesome human he runs a whole Linux he's like a Linux pro in fact so much so that he and the people he's trained thousands of people on how to program and how to use Linux

[01:42:07] he's built his own Linux distribution called Cinex point being he has a whole community that's just focused on Linux and that Linux environment so we really try to push customers who really want to dig down that rabbit hole and learn that stuff to go over to his channel

[01:42:25] because he has at this point thousands of people who are actively engaged in using that on his channel okay cool well Sean I mean we were over an hour and a half and this has been extremely eye-opening I've learned so much stuff just talking to you

[01:42:45] and you've got a lot to say I have friends and groups and things in the area where I go and speak they would love to have you around so I'm going to share your information with them and hopefully get you into the area

[01:42:57] and I hear you're going to be maybe at Prepper Camp this September yeah most definitely I will be at Prepper Camp in in Saluda, Salida, North Carolina in September I'm actually later this month I'm going to be at the homesteading and preparedness

[01:43:15] like Expo or Festival or something like that down in near Jacksonville, Florida at the end of this month and then the week after that I'm going to be at another conference up in North Carolina in May but I spend my time traveling the country

[01:43:31] right now either going to these conferences and events and speaking at these events and we have a booth that we set up and what not doing that and then getting brought in by organizations and groups who want to get educated and trained on this stuff so

[01:43:45] if you have an organization or a group that is meeting on a regular basis and it's kind of key I really only want to be working with people who are going to take this stuff and do something with it there's a lot of organizations

[01:43:59] and groups out there that like they like meeting they just don't like action they don't like taking action they don't want to do the hard things and that's why I love the prepper community because these people are taking action like they don't just want to sit behind a

[01:44:13] screen and click like and share and buy some cool hats that say I'm a patriot they actually are taking action in their life to change the things that they're doing same with the homesteading I'm sorry the homeschooling community the homeschooling people are amazing because they're taking action

[01:44:33] it's not easy to take your kids out of the public school system and start figuring out how you're going to educate them on your own they're actually taking action so that's where as I said in the very beginning my mission these days is to arm those who are

[01:44:47] ready to take the action with the tools that they need and education that they need to be successful so if you have a group like that please let me know I would love to talk about coming out and speaking with your group Perfect absolutely alright everybody

[01:45:01] so if you're interested in getting a ghost phone or a ghost tablet or a ghost laptop head over to www.mark37.com and there's a little menu button there you can just click on that and go to the products and from the products you can click on

[01:45:17] technology or homesteading or health or just scroll through everything with the all button but once again I'm going to go ahead and click on the all button but once again Sean it's great having you on just saying tight after this outro and we'll close out right

[01:45:35] Yeah let me just say one last thing something that I found super effective is a lot of people don't know what they don't know and they don't know what they really need at the end of the day so what I'm doing if you go to the

[01:45:49] ghost laptop or the ghost phone or the ghost life or ghost home service where we work one on one and do private consulting with individuals and families and you go towards the end of that page as you scroll down you'll see

[01:46:03] an area where you can basically sign up for a free 15 minute digital privacy consultation and you basically can just pick a time on my calendar that I've got free where we can talk for 15 minutes and do a quick audit of your digital world

[01:46:19] and I can start to coach you through what direction would be a good place for you to start so that's looking at this and saying this is too overwhelming this is too complicated I don't even know where to begin here because I understand it is it can be

[01:46:33] I'm happy to spend 15 minutes with you individually talking with you and coaching you through what the next step would be on the journey Perfect now will they get to talk to you or they get to talk to somebody that works with you

[01:46:45] Right now it's going to be me but I have a handful of team members that I'm training who are familiar with doing these types of migrations and these technologies that are going to be jumping in here probably within the next month or two so the time being

[01:47:01] if you want to chat with me you can grab 15 minutes of my time just by going there on the site I think that would be cool for everybody Sean, I look forward to seeing you I'm going to be at Prevver Camp September 27th through the 29th

[01:47:13] I'll be teaching a class on surviving martial law and hopefully rub shoulders with you and shake your hand to everybody else I want to thank you for listening to the Rising Republic head over to mark37.com tell my sentient use promo code T-R-R-15 for 15% off that's T-R-R

[01:47:31] as in the Rising Republic for 15% off use code T-R-R-15 for 15% off I am L. Douglas Hogan you all come back again stay safe out there