THROWBACK THURSDAY: Adding New People to the Prepper Group: Prepping Up w. Dave Jones

You've just joined the Prepper Broadcasting Network, where we promote self reliance and independence. The views and opinions expressed are strictly those of the host or their guests visited us in the interactive chat room at prepper broadcasting dot com. Hello everyone out there a radio land and welcome to Pressing Up with the Joneses, where each week we tackle the toughest questions in the fur arena. I'm your host, Dan Jones, the NBC guy that's nuclear biological chemical, and I want to be your personal weapon of mass instruction. I promise my listeners each week two things. First that they'll learn something new and secondly, that they'll be entertained in the process. So here we go. Is show number thirteen, and it's it is lay number thirteen, and I'll tell you why. The guest we promised to have on the show this week, Danny Santana, is out sick with the cold, and I hope it's not the flu, but he said it's the cold, and he said he wouldn't come through very good on the mic. So we're going to have him on next week. So make sure that you tune in next week because Danny Santana is the vice president of sales for North America for bio Light. It's that stove that I've been talking about for weeks and it makes electricity. So he's going to be on next week, and I'm sorry he had to bow out at thirty minutes before the show. So we're gonna make do with what we got. But we got lots to talk about, and I'm always open to things in the chat room. How's everybody doing. I hope the flu isn't affecting you guys too much. And that's you know, if we want to start off with the news, let's talk about the flu. It's widespread. It's hitting everywhere in the US, I mean practically everywhere, and it's highly contagious, and the news media is pumping it up and they are hitting this like nobody's business. And I'm really not seeing why because the amount of deaths still hasn't caught up to a normal year of the flu. Yes there have been deaths, and yes there's been some young children, but you know, flu deaths can be caused by dehydration. You know, if you lose fluids at one end or the other and you're not replacing, you stand a really high risk of dehydration and pneumonia, and older people the flu can turn into pneumonia pretty quick. So and this the only thing I can think of is they're trying to push this flu vaccine. I'm not a conspiracy theory guy, but man, you've got to wonder why the news is covering the flu the way they're covering it. Yeah, it's bad. Yeah, you'll be out for about two weeks. I mean, it hangs on for a long time. But it's not killing people, Okay, I mean not at a rate that would be a trigger point. Let's put it that way. So, yeah, don't take the vaccine. They're trying to push the vaccine. That's what I think. You know that the CDC and you know every doctor the interview they say, yes, it's only thirty percent effective, but actually some studies have it about ten percent. And I don't know why you would shock your immune system with something like that to make it weaker. It's only ten percent effective. Try and get your news from alternate sources, okay, and analyze what you're hearing, because man, you've really got to scrutinize it. You never know what their agenda is anyway. Another thing in the news. That guy that sent out the alert in Hawaii, he actually says he has a reason that he sent it out. It's not clear what the reason was, but he absolutely thought they were under a missile attack. So we talked about this before on previous shows that it's not a button. Okay, there is not a button that you push. It's a whole lot of steps that you have to go through. And they really didn't cover why he sent it out or what the procedures are to send one of those out, but they said they had three supervisors on staff and they were all out in the hall at the time the message was sent out. Another thing, I don't know why it would take thirty eight minutes to recall a message. I mean, you'd send something out to tell them, oh no, sorry, you know something quickly. Anyway. Of course, in this past week at g Man and I were just talking about the state of the Union. How about that. I think that was a hit. Trump hit a home run on that one. I mean, I felt proud to be an American again. You know, even CBS's poll, they couldn't hide it. Seventy five percent of the people liked it. And shoot, I think what's going on in the country right now is very very positive. Of course, it's having a terrible effect on preppers because people are being lulled into a false sense of security. But last time I checked, President Donald Trump cannot control hurricanes. I mean, you should always be prepared. That's you know, no matter who's in office, right and you know you can trust the government if you if you want to. But I am choosing not to. And that leads me to a couple of my shows coming up next week. We're gonna have Rick Austin on now. Rick was a former television producer turned prepper. Okay, he was on Doomsday Castle and Doomsday Preppers, and he's on an independent film called Beyond Off Grid, and he has a couple of differ books about survival, gardening and things like that. He's gonna be on next week. He is actually the brains behind prehamp, which is one of the largest, if not the largest prepper expo in the country. Yeah, so he's going to be on next week and then the week after. You definitely want to mark this on your calendar. Eve Gonzalez is going to be on. Now. This lady we met a number of years ago, If you want first hand information about disasters, you got to talk to this lady. She has been to every major disaster in the past twelve years. She's been on the ground helping people, so she has first hand information that you can't get anywhere else. I mean everything from Fukushima to the earthquake in Haiti. I mean she has been there, been there, done that, got the T shirt for it. So you definitely want to have your questions ready for her that night. That will be a great show the seventeenth of February. Hey, and I see in the chat room. My main man is on there GMG charger, Alan Riggs, inventor of the GMAG If you haven't already heard, last time he was on the show was before Christmas. And this is I just got my kit this week and I'm looking at it right now. It is amazing. Okay. And right on the cover of the tent here it says need power, just bad water. And he got that register. That's a registered trademark for him. But Alan is the inventor of this GMG charger. You put salt water in it and it charges up your batteries. You don't need sunlight, you don't need wind. All you need is a little water and salt. And like Alan likes to say, if you had to, you could go behind a tree and fill this thing up and you'd have electricity, if you know what I mean. Yeah, Alan's saying hey to everybody in the chat room. He also told me that I have a fifteen percent discount for anybody that puts an order in and the coupon code is Jones fifteen, Jones fifteen at green Evading dot com. And I'm going to stick all this in the chatroom here in just one second. Here, hang on, yep. There it is green Evading dot com. That's the website, and the coupon code is just Jones fifteen. And I'm telling you, if you don't have one or two or three of these kids, you're missing out. It is like having one hundred and fifty batteries on your shelf with no expiration date. Okay, so this is the answer getting batteries, charging these things up, and all you need is a little salt water. The thing actually weighs ten ounces, so you could easily put it in a go bag. And in this latest kit, he has the holder that holds the batteries and then the USB adapter charger, so you can charge pads, cell phones, all your tech devices off of this. That's pretty darn cool. Thank you Alan for giving us at discount. And it's in the chat room. Jones fifteen. Okay, now this first segment was supposed to be Danny's and he is not here. We gotta tell you about some upcoming shows I'm doing. I just got approved for two shows, one in Texas, Mesquite, Texas and it is the Self Reliance Let me see if I can find it Self Reliance Expose. Yep, there it is Mesquite, Texas Self Reliance Expo and they do two shows, one in Texas and wanted to in Denver and will be at both shows. How about that? And I'm gonna stick that in the chat room, So come check me out there you go, Self Reliance Expo. Yeah, it's twenty third and twenty fourth March, that's when that show is. And then that's in Mosquite and in Denver that's the twenty first and twenty second of September. So both of those shows are run by the same people, really great people. Kiki is the person that's organizing the show and they are all about self reliance and prepping. Okay, so where are we. We're about ready to go into our commercial break. But what I want to talk about when we get back. I want to I want to fill in some spots that I may not have covered well last week on the exercise program, how to conduct exercises. And next weekend I'm gonna I'm going to take some of my own advice and conduct an exercise with my main man and I'll tell you about that, and then we're going to talk about how to bring people into your group. Okay. This was suggested by a few of our listeners. Okay, so and it is. It is a big step once you've got all of your preps together and you know you can't do it alone. No one can. No one family is an island. Okay, You're gonna need help. So you gotta You've gotta develop a group. And if it's you, if you're the main prepper, if you're the head of the group, you have to establish you know, your group. So I'm gonna tell you, step by step some considerations and how you go about doing that. As soon as we get back. Okay, we're gonna take a quick commercial break and we'll be right back. When disaster strikes and your GPS is useless, ancient navigation techniques will ensure your survival. New from Ulysses Press Preppers Survival Navigation. With this guide, you can easily travel through even the farthest remotest places. Utilizing tips from the United State's Army and lifelong wilderness experts, you'll learn life saving navigation techniques. This definitive guide to terrain navigation also teaches you essential survival skills like firecraft, water procurement, and shelter making. Prepper's Survival Navigation is essential to have on hand during any outdoor adventure, including the weekend family outing. On sale now. 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Okay, last week I didn't do any funny stories, so I got a funny story here. Yeah. So I used to work at NASA. Okay, NASA Headquarters in downtown Washington, DC. I did a lot of stuff in my lifetime. I was even a dog catcher and Anchorage, Alaska. Yeah, that was before I became a state trooper. I guess you got to work there, yuh, dogcatcher state trooper or something like that. But no, So I worked at NASA for a while. And NASA Headquarters it's a big office building. I don't know, about seven eight stories high. There were seventeen hundred people in that building. It was huge, and well, the Emergency Management section in NASA is located in the Facilities branch, so facilities there on the first floor and everything. And my second day on the job, you know, I'm working at NASA, I'm like, dang, you know NASA. I met this guy and he says, Hi, I'm so and so I'm the space manager. I'm like, dang, you're the space manager. You manage all of space for NASA. That's gotta be a big job. He said, No, the space in this building is what I manage it. He said, I knew that. So that was kind of funny. Space manager for NASA. Can you imagine that business card? And and then whenever we talk about things, you know, we'd be in the conference room and talk about things and we'd say, this ain't rocket science. That's on the sixth floor. Okay, you just couldn't use that. You know, this isn't rocket science, not where you're working at NASA. Anyway, that's my funny story. I hope you hope you got a little chuckle out of at least a smile. So let's talk a little bit about exercise. I got an oil. Thank you, Thank you for that one person out there, Zabeth. It's laughing, okay, NASA never a straight answer. That's what that stood for. So we're talking about last week, we were talking about exercises, and I don't know if I covered this very well. So I want to bring it up again, and if you have any questions, just put it in the chat room and I'll try and multitask here and read them. But when you're conducting an exercise, always start small, okay, don't don't start big. You're only looking for disaster. Okay, So start small. Do something that you can relatively sure you can accomplish. Okay, because you want to build on it. And that's the crawl walk run analogy. Okay, crawl walk run. You're building on something. So start small. And then when you when you start small, planet plant it out, no matter how small it is. Like the thing that I'm doing next weekend, I have several different stoves, have the bio light stove. I have that Danny sent me that I'm gonna get that out. I'm gonna get all my stoves out next weekend and I am gonna light them up, and I'm gonna see how they burn, how much fuel they use. I'm gonna fool with them. Okay, So I'm gonna evaluate them. You're gonna I'm gonna pick one or two. These are my best, these are my worst, you know, these are my backups. So so start small, plan it out, and you want to write it out on your calendar. Okay, So you want to have a written plan for the year, like maybe do one exercise a month. Okay, one thing, one thing a month, and it builds your confidence. Whenever I talk to people, uh and and I give them the number one thing that kills you in a nuclear, biological and chemical warfare, which is panic, they say, how do you not panic? And the way you don't panic practice your what you're gonna do in the disaster situation. Okay, when when I talk to people about the emergency Operations Center, and I say, you should come in here when there's nothing going on, when there's no disaster, so that you learn the layout, you should get get chow, do all the normal stuff so that when the disaster happens, you don't even have to think about the normal things like logging on your computer. So the only way you reduce panic is practice. Okay. Stress is eliminated by action. Okay, think about that. Whenever you're stressed about something. Did you ever notice whenever you're trying to make a decision about something, as soon as you take action, that stress goes away. So stress is eliminated by action. When you're you're agonizing over a car, you know, buying a car or choosing choosing between one thing or the other. As soon as you say, okay, I'm gonna take this one, all of the stress goes away and your action is to get that one. So you want to you want to practice and that that gets you better and better. So plan it out and then conduct your exercise. Okay, there is a planning cycle analysis paralysis, that's right. Uh, you can look at something one hundred million times, you have to take action. Let's see what Jay Fergie said. I'm making my kids camping yep, first week in June. Awesome. Yeah, build the fires. Yeah, see what it's like to be out there. You know, you'll learn a lot just by camping out. You'll learn how to keep your stuff dry if it rains, how to how to sleep. You know, you got to take off your clothes. Okay, you don't sleep with your clothes on because that leaves moisture inside your clothes. So then when you wake up and you get out of your sleeping bag, that moisture causes you to be cold. But you don't you don't learn that unless you practice that. So once you conduct your exercise, and I also got a suggestion from one of the listeners about doing local uh disasters or local catastrophes. He lives close to a nuclear power plant. Okay, so we're going to talk a lot about this, especially when Eve is on, because she's in to tell you first hand what goes on in a disaster. Yeah, and she's gonna, you know, we'll probably do that whole show about local disasters. So, you know, like the get home bag that you have in your car, and if you don't have one in your car, you should put one in your car. Okay, you are the most vulnerable when you're away from home. I mean, if you're at home, you have all your shit, right, so you should have a get home bag. I have one in each car, and it's just enough to get me home. So one of these days, I'm gonna have my wife drive me in town. Town for us is fourteen miles one way. She's gonna drive me in town. I'm gonna hop out the car, put my pack on, and start walking home. I'm gonna see if I have everything I need in that pack because on the trip, Okay, I'm going and I need to drink water, probably gonna need to eat something. You know, fourteen miles might not seem like a long way. I'm going to time it too, to see how long it takes me under the best conditions, so I know about how long it would take me under the worst conditions, and then I'm going to evaluate it. So you can. You plan it, you conduct it, you evaluate it, and then you adjust your plan. Yes, fourteen miles is a long way, especially if you have two kids in drag, you know, and so right, So that's part of my travel kit too, my get home bag stuff for the kids. So I might take that out because I know I'm not going to drag them fourteen miles. That would be uh, that would be rough. I have a ten year old a five year old. Okay, Yes, I started late. I started late in life. Yes, had my first kid at fifty my second one and fifty five. Yeah, I think I got time for one morning before so security kicks in. I digress so that that whole planning cycle is what you want, okay. So you plan it out, put it on your calendar, you conduct it, okay, then you evaluate it, then you adjust your plan, right, and then it starts all over again, So you have to adjust your plan because you want to learn from whatever your mistakes are. You want to get better at what you're doing. And what this does is it builds your confidence. If you've walked fourteen miles from home and you have your bag and everything you know went, well, your confidence is up. Shit, maybe next time I try twenty miles. Right, Well, you don't have to practice misery, Okay, So misery just comes and Murphy's law comes. Whereas you're walking home and doing this, you might not want to hide from people because they'll think there's you know, you're kind of strange. But in a real situation, you would hide, right. You might even only travel, you know, at night. You don't want to be seen at all. Anyway, That's what I wanted to talk about with exercise, the exercise cycle, which I don't think I touched on at all, and start small, look for success. Okay, I got some questions here in the chat room. Let's see if I can do this. Which route do you take home? That is a good question. I mean, I'm going to take the most direct route for the first time, because really I'm just I'm just evaluating my bag. Okay. If it was a real situation, I would be off the road. I would be close to the road, but i would be off the road, and I'd be using the compass for my direction and all of that. So if I'm not actually seeing the road, know which way I'm supposed to go, And like I said the first time doing it, I'm just timing myself to you know, see how it goes and test my bag out. It's the best says, it keeps you young. You know, I don't know if it keeps you young, but it short tires you out when you have kids like that. Twelve hours, two days. Yeah, yeah, it's gonna take quite a quite a long time. Bridges and waterways, you know, waterways are completely overlooked in most preppers plans. And waterways are fantastic. Before we had railroads in this country, the waterways was a super highway of the time. So think about you know a lot of times people have a Buket location, think about waterways because that could help you get to your Buket location quickly and safely, and you expend a whole lot less energy floating down the river. Okay, let's see, did I miss anybody? Uh yeah, two is none or one? One? One is no? Two is one that is right. Always have backups. I am a big believer in redundancies because shit breaks, Okay, I mean shit breaks, So I have a backup. I said one time, I have four ways to heat my house and five if you count the cold camp stove that you use white gas in Okay, which you probably won't want to do, but carbon monoxide detector. If I had to, I could use it. Yeah. So we're going to take a commercial break here before we go into how you bring people into the group. Okay, We're going to take a quick commercial break, and if you have questions, put them in chat room. I'm going to pay a lot of attention to the chat room tonight because my guest was sick. Okay, quick commercial break. We'll be right back. It shouldn't be all about outdoor survival think prospering outdoors. Prospering outdoors is more than just getting by prospering outdoors. It's about having the quality gear or supplies you want when you need it. From camping and hunting supplies to prepping and survival kits. 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For example, one of our tripacks includes an antibiotic herbal tea in herbal tea for pain and an immune booster herbal tea. Luma Tea is a must for every prepper and household. See all our teas and what Luma Tea can do for you visit us at luma te dot com. Okay, Alan and I are having a good chat there in chat room. He says, train the way you fight. You bet, you bet. As you get better at this practice, at these drills or exercises, you want to inject more and more of the realism that you would experience. So you know, start off small and work your way up. Look for success. Okay, You've got to build upon all your lessons learned. Okay, no more questions about that. I can't see anything in the room, so I'm going to go on bringing someone into your group. It's a question that all preppers have. Okay, Now what I'm gonna I'm going to cover guidelines. Okay, this is going to be broad general guidelines. You have to adapt it to your situation. So you can take these as like a model and massage them into the way you want to do this. Okay. And there's different ways you can start, Like you may have a specific position that you need filled. Let's say you have no medical person in your group. Okay, so you might want to specifically look for a medical person, maybe a doctor, a nurse or EMT paramedic, even a Okay, and the way you start looking for people is kind of like multi level marketing. Okay. If anybody's ever done Amway or anything like that, that's multi level marketing. Okay. And they always tell you list all your friends, all your friends and family, all your acquaintances, okay, and you want to sit down and look these people. The average person can put on a list over one hundred people. And the way you do this is divided up into categories. Categories of things that you belong to, like a church, school, any groups that you go to, Little League, cub Scouts, Boy Scouts, PTO, yep, find you a Navy corman, that's right, whereas Barack Obama used to say corpsemen. So put down at the top of the list your groups, the things that you belong to, and then list all the people that you know. Okay, if you just know their first name. Okay, But you can get a list of over one hundred people. The average person can get a list of over one hundred people because of the groups they belong to, and that could be your starting point. There are some factors that you want to take into consideration, like, well, okay, I'm going to tell you that the biggest factor, the number one thing that you need to look for, and that is a person's values. Okay, so they have to share the same values, and the values overcome everything else. Like if the guy is a freaking heart surgeon, okay, but he doesn't have the same values that you share, it's not going to work. I would rather have someone that knows nothing about medical but has my same value system and then train him on medical, send him to an EMT class or something. You know. The values is the key everybody that's in your group should be coming from. And I'm not talking hard and fast, you know, if they believe everything that you believe, but it has to be a general, you know, group consensus. For instance, I don't plan on shooting anybody, Okay, I mean I'm not. I've got into my mind now. You know, you're talking to a guy that's been in combat. Okay. I never shot at anybody. Then I never shot at anybody who was a police officer I shot at okay, but I've never actually shot at anybody, and it wasn't because I mean, I just never had a chance. I've aimed my gun, I've pointed it at people, but they never did anything that caused me to pull the trigger. So the only time I'm going to shoot someone is if they threaten me or anybody in my group. Okay. And I'm pretty convinced of my skills because I practice a lot. You know, I'm expert with small arms, and I know my capabilities. What would be an easy shot, what would be a hard shot for me? So you want to get that in your mind before you get into the situation. And anybody that doesn't have that same view in their mind probably should not be part of your group. Now, these are general rules, and first of all, the grid ain't going to be down forever. Okay. There are some commonly accepted practices. You can't commit murder, okay. And if it's a difference between someone getting some of your food and killing them, okay, they get some of your food. I mean, no, you can't take care of everybody. But don't let them have any information about your group. Okay, make them a part of your group. If they're worse off than you are, make them a part of your group. I'm kind of getting off the subject here, but so you're also your written constitution, So you have to have a bylaws or constitution for your group. And if you don't have one, you must well start with one. Okay, if you're a group of one family, sit down and write up your constitution. And I talked to this one prepper who has a place out in Kentucky. He said he has one simple and hard fast rule, everybody works. Well, okay, that's a start. That's a start. I think you got to flush it out a little more than that. So everybody works. Everybody needs to contribute, of course, So then how do you make the initial contact? Right? I mean, how do you bring up prepping to a total stranger? And you might have to kind of feel out, have to, you know, talk about canning or putting up preserves or something like that to open up the conversation. They're they're genuinely interested, you know, share a little bit of that information with them. It's something I found to be kind of a phenomenon is the women of a group of a family are becoming more interested in prepping than the men. And the reason I find that interesting is men usually have the role of protector, right, But I think it's because the women see it as part of taking care of their family, and really, isn't that the essence of prepping? Doing right? By your family, that's what you want to do. So it might be easier to approach the spouse, the wife as opposed to the man, and talk to them about prepping. And then when it gets around to well, you know, I have a group, you know, say it that way. I have a group. You know, it's kind of like amway, Okay, I have a group that I'm putting together, you know, in case disaster strikes. And if you're in a disaster prone area, you don't have to talk very far. Okay, if you're in a place that floods or a place that gets hurricanes or earthquakes or something like that, you don't have to talk very far. And you could say, I don't want to have to depend on anybody else for my family's survival, and that's important to me. I'm going to give you another little tip. They're going to come off with something something. Well, I heard those preppers are nuts. It's called the feel felt found rule. Okay, feel felt found. I know how you feel. I felt the same way. Let me tell you what I found. I found preppers that are highly educated and they're in all walks of life, and basically they just want to do right by their family. Yeah, I'm getting a lot of a little bit of laughing the area. I mean, that's how you can open it up. Okay, and remember that you're always looking for people with your same values if you are, if you're on the right track, they will be open to the conversation. They may not join your group, you know, and you might not want to tell them every everything. You might want to just feel them out a little bit, kind of like a job interview. Really, they're applying for a position in your group, and you want to make sure they're a good fit. So you want to feel them out enough that you can say, yeah, I think we can bring this person in. I think we can train this person up to be able to do the job, whatever the job is. Let's see, our goal is to protect our family, Yes, to leave them with the capability to take care of themselves. Absolutely, you want to train them up. A huge portion of prepping is education. Huge. As a matter of fact, I always say that you can never I mean, the one thing that you can spread your prepper dollars on most is training. Okay, it gives you the most value for the for the buck. If you know something that you didn't know yesterday. You're far more marketable, You're you're far better in survival situations. So training, Uh, let's see go back to my notes here. Friends, family, places where you shop, okay, you places where you shop, where you get your groceries, where you get your gas, organizations that you're you belong to, and list all the friends that you know. You know you're gonna have vacancies. You're gonna even with the vacancies, you want to double up because one person can't be your soul medical person. I mean, what if they don't make it to your location. You want to have backups for everything and people to fill in when that person is sick themselves or down or it's just too plain tired. Okay, So it doesn't matter if you have, you know, redundant people doing the same thing, and you want to spread the wealth. So yep. Cross training absolutely, especially if you have a smaller group. Cross training is a key, and then people will get to know other people's jobs and responsibilities, you know, and everybody should know security, I mean everybody, and they should know their role in security, where they're a backup for a listening post or a position, or whether they're like a quick reaction for us. Now, jeez, I'm really digressing. Yep, first impressions, excellent, flying Dutchman. That is correct. Go with your gut. Your gut is usually right. Don't try and use your head over your gut. You will be able to feel it. Okay. And and don't don't let like like I said, I use the doctor as an example, don't let this person's skills throw you off of of where they're actually coming from. I mean, you know, there's a there's another guy. He has one simple rule and he said, would I trust you with my kids? I think about that. Would I trust you with my kids? Wow? That makes that group pretty damn small, right, friends? Family? There's also considerations how far away from your bug out location they could they possibly possibly make it. You know people say no further than one tank of gas. Well, in a disaster situation, one tank of gas may not be enough. This is Jones view. Now, Okay, if you're relying on that one tank of gas and you didn't fill up, you're pretty screwed. Yeah. Saying they have the skills is not the same as having them. That is true. That is true. You want to evaluate them. You want to make sure that they are who they say they are, and they can do what they say they can do. This will also come out in exercises that you conduct and practice drills things like that. And like I said, you want to start small and build up. Okay. You know, if one person knows really a lot about shooting, maybe they can be the trainer for the rest of the group, or cooking or medical or anything like that. Comms guy, a tech guy, the overall tech guy, the guy that can make electricity happen. Yeah. Oh what did they get here? Exactly? She has no skill but would put everyone at risk. Oh sorry, I got to read up further. You guys are having your own conversation here, get it. Yep. Everyone has to pitch in, has to have some kind of skill. Yeah, but I look at it this way. If you can stay awake at night for the night watch, do they panic? Dang? That's good. You know, when you conduct the exercises, you can look at how people react to certain situations, okay, and take them through an actual situation. So I participated in this one thing where where we actually pretended we were people coming to this person's property and we wanted to see how those people would react to people just showing up. And we had this one person say, excuse me, excuse me, you have to go away. I said, excuse me. Are you in a grocery store with your shopping cart? Everything you have is in that house behind you, and you're saying to this person, excuse me. You better be shouting at the top of your lungs down, maybe a couple of swear words in there, just to get their engine right. Your voice is the first line of UH defense or the first you know, aggressive move that you can do before you actually lay hands on them. So you want to be able to control them with your voice. If you have a person that just can't command attention, you know it will come out in exercises. You know they're too polite or they're too nice. You don't know what that person's intentions are. Right, man, the chat room's exploding. Let's see if I can get caught up, remain calm and collected under stress. Yes, you want to evaluate everybody, and you want to you want to ask other people how do you think you did in this exercise? Let them come out with their own evaluation so they don't feel singled out or or belve old. You know, Usually they'll they'll tell you, well, I think I screwed this up. Yep, is that racking of a shotgun there? Click click? I think so? Yeah. Yeah, you got to have a loud voice, booming voice, you bet, the command voice. That's what we called it, the military command voice. You got to you gotta get these people to understand you mean business. And then, uh, you know, let's say you cut the power. Everybody goes without power, do they start freaking? I had my my son, you know, he the one that's in Japan right now. By the way, he's not going to Korea, so the prayers do work. He's not going to South Korea. Uh. He used to freak out when the power would go off, basically because he couldn't play video games or something like that, and he was just, oh, just going not because the powers off. He couldn't relax. He couldn't you know, he's outside of his comfort zone. You get a little tired, a little hungry, a little dirty, and your real self will come out. Okay, have a three day weekend coming up. Camp out, camp out, camp out with the minimums. You'll find out. You will find out. Yeah, let's see here. Okay, you have children and teenagers. Well, my children actually like it when the power goes off because everybody gets closer together and they like, you know, the attention. They do not they look for the power to come out, so they like that. Teenagers, you know, they may be a little why why why why do I have to do this? Well, you know because I say so. No, because everybody's lives depend upon it. That's why would you let them in the group. Well, you're not going to exclude someone, especially if they're children. Okay, I'm getting the three minute warning from gm ann. Thank you for keeping me on track. You would take them into the group. I mean, you know there's a lot of mature, younger people. This guy that produced the film Beyond off Grid, he has like seven kids, Jason Gisha, I can't remember his last name, but he has seven kids, and his twelve year old daughter teaches a class on how to dress a chicken. Okay, she'll kill the chicken with her hands, snap its necks, plucket, got it, does everything there in front of people, teaches a class on how to do that. So you know that twelve year old has really got hurt crap together. I mean, how many adults can do that, so you kind of got to Oh, okay, some people are saying you can advertise. Now, you don't know what you're going to get if you put the blog out there, you know, I'm thinking the old thing. Six people can network world. Okay, So whereas you start pulling in people to your group, they will also have a group that they can count on friends and relatives that they can go to, so you will be able to fill these holes. I would not advertise. I don't think that would be a good thing. Yep, it's their lifestyle. Yeah, if you grow up that way, you know how to do all that stuff. It's skills that we lost over the years. Youthful energy can be used to if you harness it right, correct, Yeah, careful vetting for sure. 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