THROWBACK THURSDAY - COVIDCast: Will We All Become Preppers?

M M. The Pepper Broadcasting Network. We have to hit the reset, but create a true culture preparedness, starting at a very young age and filtering all the way up. Prepper Broadcasting Network. We are back with the COVID cast yet again. Uh great lineup on tonight's show. As I mentioned a daily audio cash, I can see the chat room filling up with the usual suspects. We do appreciate you. Is anybody else just just kind of worn out from this thing? Today has been a heck of a day and but man, it's you know, this is an endurance event. It really is an endurance event, and this thing is far from over. And I you know, probably the biggest takeaway from the show tonight I think we'll probably hear resonate from the from the guest hosts, is just that, you know, we keep hearing things about when it will end, and we're getting dates thrown at us about the peak and all these sort of things, and it's leading to this idea that things are eventually going to get back to normal, probably in the near future. I don't know about you, but I get a feeling that that the near future is gonna look a lot like today looks I've been watching date. I don't know where you guys are w I don't even know if you are watching data. Let me let me just talk about that for a little bit, because I go to worldometers dot Info like many of you do. When I watch each day, and you know what I'm looking for. I'm looking for the same things you're looking for. And some days I open it up in my heart stops and I say, you know, you know the things that you say to yourself. And then sometimes, like tonight, I open it up and I go, is any of this even real? Is any of this even real? Is any of this? How could any of this be right? How could you capture the amount of cases in a place like New York, right with a homeless population their size, with a with an at risk population their size, with a you know the whole thing. I mean, how could you even capture that data? To be quite honest, the title of the show tonight is kind of sarcastic. It's kind of sarcastic in a way. Will we all become preppers after this thing? Just? Will we all become preppers? But I do want to talk about that tonight. I do want to talk about not the not my hopes and dreams that we see a big, big uptick in people who prepare for this stuff going forward. But to be quite honest with you, I kind of want to talk about what happens in a person's mind when they see this happen. They live through something terrible, and many people, most probably will return to the old ways, right, They'll return to what they did the day before coronavirus shut everything down. And I don't know, man, I don't understand it. I really can't wrap my head around it. But I'd like to go pretty free form tonight. Outside of that, you know, a week. I don't know if it feels this way for you, but a week feels like a year for me. Lately. It's like so much happens in a day. It's unbelievable. And I'll tell you what. It just seems like this thing has slowed time down almost, you know, it really seems like this thing will just slow time down. Volcanic in Chat says, well, we all become preppers. She says, there are no atheists in a foxhole, i e. Or prospective changes. Well, you know, they jumped right into it pretty quickly. I'll tell you that much so let's get this show on the road. Uh, Dave, why don't we bring you on first and foremost, and we'll also get a kind of secret sound check as well as hear what's going on in your side of the world and what you've been thinking about through all this. Well, yeah, having a little technical difficulties. You know, back in the day, we used to say the commedies are jamming our frequency here, So Dave, okay, then, well I don't have much of an update. I mean, the numbers are the numbers, Okay, know that they're calling out more National guards as things go. This thing is rolling through the country and it's going to have to hit every major metropolitan area and it has to run its course. That's why the peak isn't here yet, and the peak won't be here in two weeks. I mean, you can't measure what Italy did and what Spain did and what France is doing by what the United States is doing because it has to go through the whole country and every metropolitan area is going to experience pretty much what New York has. The supplies are only going to get more scarce now they're ramping up production and things. You know, if you let commercial businesses do it. Distribution will be great if you let the government do it, not so much. I mean, I'm just being realistic here, and I think everybody's going to be a prepper. And I'll tell you why. During the depression, which lasted over ten years, people learned how to adapt and those lessons that they learned for ten Not that this is going to last ten years, but it's going to be longer than nine to eleven. Okay, our memories from nine to eleven lasted about a year and then that was it. So this is gonna last longer than a year. We're not going to get a summer respite. The only thing we're going to get is maximum amount of people infected, so you can't infect any more people, so then the numbers will start going down. And that's what I see and the things that come out of it. Dave, what do you think, America? What do you think the story will be when we look back on this thing. You know, as far as America's response, the messaging is so brutal right now, that it's hard, oh yeah, to really understand. And for the average person, and even for me, it's hard to it's hard to look at it. But I mean, if we get businesses that aren't necessarily in the business of creating ppe for healthcare providers, and we get people like Tesla who are creating ventilators, and I don't know how that's gonna work, if that's gonna work out in enough time to help many people or not. But if we get privatized business to step in, you know, capitalist style, yeah, and at least have an effect on this thing. What do you think this story will be when we look back on it and it's say, you know, the COVID nineteen or the whatever hit the American shores and dot dot dot. Yeah, there were There's gonna be a lot of individual cases and triumphs. You know, there's gonna be a lot of this doctor did this and it saved so many people, or this company stood up and it saved this many people. The narrative that's being written right now that will go down in the historical record for the most part and looked back on for one hundred years is Trump screwed up. It was all Trump's fault. And if you listen to my shows way back when when Glenn had the network, I actually told people that our stockpiles have dwindled over the eight years of Obama. You know, when nine to eleven happened, we knew our asses were hanging out, and they funded these programs. Yeah, and they said, oh my god, you know, so they funded them, and they stockpiled, and they manufactured, and the government bought. And then after nine eleven, as things happened, as Ebola and Zika and everything happened, those stock piles dwindled until the point where we could respond to one outbreak in one city. And that's exactly what I said on a show. And I can't even remember the show, but if I find it, I'll send it to you and you can broadcast it Friday night. Yeah, that'd be a good one, right, that'd be a time Yeah one for sure. Yeah. That's a piece of this whole thing. That really is interesting me right now, is you know, when we come out of this thing triumphant. Of course, it's almost in the current purview, it's impossible to come out triumphant because who's at the who's at the helm. But when you think about looking back, you know, when you look back at the media's performance probably over the last four years, yeah, history will frown on the media. You know, we can't look at it objectively right now. Well we can, but most people can't look at it objectively right now because of their hatred for Donald Trump or their or their uh whatever, you know, whatever thing. But you know, thirty forty years from now, they'll be able to look back and go, this is what the media was doing at this point. Yeah, I wonder. But outside of the media's influence, what the story he will be here? You know, did America do the right thing and come out on top? Obviously, once we get our problems fixed, you know, there'll be people going all over the world to fix the world. But yeah, yeah, it's an interesting moment. If we were the most prepared nation on the planet, okay, I'd have to say our performance was not quite up there. But if you look at the two things Trump actually did was stop the trance, you know, stop the flights, and then you know he banned travel. So the two things that he actually everything else he relied on these so called experts, and they had weeks and in some cases months, because I know they got classified information that we didn't get right and they could have prepared for me. It was like watching a train wreck in slow motion. This thing was coming and it was like, no one is sending the message. I understand. You got to stop the panic. There was enough panic anyways, but you have to prepare the people. Instead, what we got was test kits and you know, another thing. And Steven may be able to talk to this a lot more than me, But manufacturers examined their supply chain. Oh and whereas yeah, this is going to be huge and it's going to be huge for a long long time as they move manufacturing back to the borders of the United States, because we were hugely vulnerable and no one had a clue, no one. No doubt about it. Stephen, what do you got, ma man? What is your take on? Uh? What is what is said to be by the government one of the or supposed to be one of the toughest weeks that we've had. Yeah, I don't know. I don't really haven't necessarily have a straightforward question for you. I really am more interested in as you've been doing what you do throughout the week. Obviously you're absorbing information about this situation. It's impossible not to. And kind of where's your head at? Where's your head at? Coming from where you're and your background and all those types of things. Sure thing. Yeah, it's a pleasure to be back here again with everyone on PBN, continuing to talk about this top page, top of the fold story as it continues to develop, and ultimately we're looking at a scenario where if you're going to assess things at the federal level, you're really aggregating across a lot of different situations where the dynamics are to a certain extent related, but also to a very real extent independent. Here in Connecticut because of the proximity to New York, we're seeing spillover cases and additional layers of precaution and everything else like that. But that's going to be different depending on where you are and the kind of dynamics that we're facing. And so on one hand, I would encourage people when they're filtering in for me and to make sure that your focus is going to be at a local like a familial and a community level. When you're thinking about what rules and procedures and recommendations are in place, what you can do, you need to be paying very close attention to your localized resources. And I think this is where we start to see some of the changes that are hopefully more longstanding as a result of this dynamic, and hopefully for the better, because for many people, if they were paying attention to anything having to do with public life and culture and things like that, it was at a high level, It was federal, it was controlled by whatever the corporate media interests wanted to direct people's attention towards. And now there's a renewed appreciation, particularly with the lack of other things to draw people's attention away, although of course there's no shortage of distractions available on the Internet, but with the lack of sports and other kinds of traditional entertainment, we're seeing people get more involved and have more connections locally. I mean, I've probably had more conversations with my surrounding neighbors just out on walks and other things like that in the past two weeks than I had in the past six months, as it pertains to just that kind of interconnectedness, and I would encourage everyone to take advantage of that particular time. This is a fantastic time to be once you make sure that everyone is secure and you have the kind of provisions and supplies to weather to weather a storm. Not just like this, but the way you should be thinking is well, regardless of what we know or we don't know, we're dealing with an uncertain situation. So what you need to do is you need to prepare in the future to deal with something that's worse, because there's no way that this is the worst thing that could ever possibly happen. Just by amping up the mortality rates or the rate of spread of this thing, this itself could have been could have been worse, and so you can easily imagine a scenario where more dire things happen, and so we have to adjust our approaches in our psychology and our preparation accordingly. However, we can't afford to get bogged down into particular prognostications, especially as it pertains to some of these models. What I'd like to do is, you know, you have to pay attention to the numbers in terms of understanding where they're coming from and how you're building how you're building these things. There we are going into a period where the weather is going to be warmer. That's not necessarily going to stop the spread of this, but it does restrict the lifespan of the virus, and hopefully with something with something like that, and with the excessive measures put in place, we can begin to see the growth rate at least of new cases and deaths hopefully begin to drop off. The most interesting data that I've seen over the past week has to do with the statistics that were coming out of the CDC in the fall of twenty nineteen about ilies influenza like illnesses, And it stands to reason if the first confirmed cases out of China are happening middle to late November, that there were probably actual cases before that. And given the amount of air traffic between China and the rest of the world, particularly China and the United States, as well as certain exposures that were going on there, you would imagine that it's unlikely that the first genuine cases of this in the United States happened in February. It's more likely going to be the case that this was here for a while and it just wasn't properly identified, in part because of the lack of transparency coming out of China and frankly the deliberate propaganda misinformation coming out of the WHO. And so I think what we're seeing is a dynamic where credibility in psychology is key in terms of where people are willing to put their trust and put their attention and direct their focus, and the thesis of globalism is now severely in question. The thesis of outsourcing and eliminating supply chains in terms of being self sufficient as a nation is it's almost impossible to try to make a constructive argument for that, and people really aren't doing that at the moment. It's a question of order of operations in terms of when we end up actually coming to that point of having a real conversation about those things. But if we look at if we look at the markets, we have gold back of paper gold, I should say, back above seventeen hundred, so we're back at the highs dating back to twenty eleven. Silver still in the doldrums as opposed to where it should be, but the safe haven assets are beginning to respond accordingly because there's been an adjustment in market psychology where people see the death toll estimates in particular the US, like the headline scary numbers going from you know, two million to one hundred to two hundred thousand. Now it's looking like less than one hundred thousand. I wouldn't be I wouldn't be surprised if we end up at less than fifty thousand, just because of the trajectories that we're seeing and the incentives, the asymmetrical incentives that we talked about last time in terms of presentation. For the people who are who are dealing with these things, the worst outcome for them is for them to be overly optimistic about to be wrong about something like that. And the best case scenario for them is to be overly pessimistic about death and to be right, because then that gives their policies credibility. Say, yeah, we were going to we were going to have this happen, but we then took these measures, and these measures saved such and such many lives, and of course we don't know what the what the hypotheticals could be. I mean, this is a similar kind of dynamic as what dated back to the Obama administration when you talked about jobs that were either saved or created because of the response next response to the financial crisis, and then the question is, well, that's a number that you could just kind of make up. The same thing is going to be true here. We're fortunately not going to have ten randomized trials of events like this, and so we don't know what would have been or what could have been, and so people are taking aggressive measures. There's now pushback against that from an economic standpoint, but I'm in an optimistic scenario. There could be some changes and some relaxation on what feels like a total quarantine and lockdown, maybe towards the end, towards the end of April. It's hard to imagine something like that happening in the next couple of weeks, but I think what we will see is that data begins to clarify, is that the estimates will keep sort of edging down until they come into line with reality. And I think for most people from an investors standpoint, the twelve to eighteenth, eighteen month timeframe has been taken off the table in terms of psychology, because what people are looking at is that the central banks are willing to do literally anything. You know, what's a few extra trillion dollars in loan guarantees at this point, so they will be willing to step up. And the crisis and confidence was based on uncertainty, and so we'll see if we can go through a whole nother round of this re establishing normalcy. It's hard to imagine that that's going to be fully the case from a financial perspective, just because of the just because of the change in tone and the change in people's assessment of the viability of these policy tools. But to summarize, I think that there's room to be optimistic in our view that as we see more data, we will be able to chart things out on a more accurate basis. And in the meantime, we're looking at a scenario where localism needs to continue to predominate, and this is going to change the tone of the conversation at a national level for a significant time. It's for all the people who are trying to make political hay or a fast buck out of a scenario like this, you know what really matters is the long game and the shift in the psychology, and people are going to be much more attentive and skeptical to outsourcing of supply chains and have a much greater preference for American American manufacturing and everything else like that moving forward. So this does represent a sea change. We're not going to come out of this with the same America that we that we had before. And there are many other conversations to be had about civil liberties and everything else like that. But for me, I've had to get off social media a bit because honestly, it's just the same people saying the same stuff again and again again, pointing to the same different examples, more or less misguided. That's just where everything is. People are just sort of groping around in the darkness and screaming as loud as possible, and that doesn't make for a really productive conversation. But you know, when the smoke clears, will be able to get a better sense of what's going on. But right now, as you sort of look at a high level, you can see less from an absolute basis where we are, but more from the tone of how things are changing, that we may indeed be able to get through this without the worst case, without the worst case scenario. That that viewpoint is backed up by the psychology that's evident in the markets, with precious metals responding as they should to the expansion of the balance sheets and the potential debasement of the currency, regardless of the short term movements of the dollar, while you have equity markets supposedly stabilizing. Now if there's another if there's another event, hey, who knows about this asteroid at the end of the month. You know what it is. There's just one same stuff, different day boys and girls, but it's it is what it is. If you if we're going to get the true depression that so many people are calling for, it would take it would take something else on top of this, Like this is going to be rough, no doubt about it. I've had people I know, people who I'm close with who have lost jobs either because they're in they're in startups, or they're in cyclical cyclical businesses or service or service businesses. But you know, I think that we're going to be able to, uh to squeak through this, But of course that remains to be seen, depending on anything else that may come across our radar. So Steven, thanks so much for joining us. As always, this is a weird question and I'm not looking for a specific answer, but as it sits right now, I don't know why I'm up obsessed with COVID nineteen response through a historical perspective decades from now, and I'm burdening you guys with coming up with answers for this, But it's just something that I always love to look at situations like this and say in a hundred years, what will people look back and say. And we're at a situation right now where we have and I know numbers are numbers, right, they're not extremely accurate, but around seventy five thousand people in the world have died, which sucks. We'll just keep it simple. You know, we're talking about a population of eight billion, And I don't know what is when you look at deaths in that way and you look at kind of the way things are going, and you do a very unscientific estimation, you know, just by looking at the trends. You know, it's hard to imagine us looking back at the coronavirus deaths in particular, and if we compare it to other moments through history that have really caused some significant deaths in the in the world population. So with that in mind, my question to you is is there a chance And I don't know, you know, because there are there are extenuating circumstances outside of just the mortality rate of the virus, right, But do you think we'll look back? And of course, like when I say we'll look back, there's gonna be multiple schools of thought. Will it look like, will it look like the world took a lot of crazy precautions for something maybe we could have been more tactical about. I mean, hindsight is always twenty twenty. But when you look at the data, it makes me wonder if people will look back and say, you know, coronavirus, was it was rough? Or will they look back and say, man, we really went crazy to try and stop this thing, and we may have even went overboard. What are your thoughts on that sort of the hindsight look at this thing. Yeah, obviously a challenging dynamic here to unpack, James, particularly because we're talking about a lot of unknowns. But if you compare let's say, what's going on now to what happened throughout the twentieth century from a trajectory standpoint, governments, let's say, not being properly prepared for a public health response to a disease and the world losing let's say half a million people is a totally different kind of deal. Like, if that's the worst thing that happens in the twenty first century, then our improvement over outcomes in the twentieth century is like, it's as cynical as it is. You kind of have to take that any day of the week, because you know, it's not one hundred million, one hundred million people being slaughtered by their own government for absolutely no reason other than ethnic cleansing and horrific ideologies about the false utopia that mankind can create when we really put our minds to it. That illusion, if it hasn't been shattered by the twentieth century, needs to be firmly shattered now. And it's the kind of pressures that put us in this kind of situation. The one world society, the no borders, the global communist kind of effort, the Kumbayi United Nations component to all the all cultures are equivalent in terms of output and production and efficiency, all of these sorts of things. We are all children of God, created in the image of God, and we are all valuable intrinsically and infinitely and eternally. But we're dealing with pragmatic situations on this planet, and as far as I'm concerned, the big picture is, you know, if this doesn't lead to the kind of global totalitarianism that many think that it could in terms of a response, then we're going to be in a better situation. Hopefully to look at this and to say, hey, this is a time when we had better information technology, when the people were more involved. And yes, that did involve additional levels of psychological panic and hysteria and mismanagement and real challenges in navigating these kinds of waters. But it also comes along with a nascent and I would say, really dynamically powerful skepticism as it pertains to the government's ability to handle things. And so hopefully it means that we're going to be focused on greater levels of self sufficiency and greater levels of accountability when it comes to our government official officials. Maybe this is a time when people will actually get get more involved. And again that's an optimistic view. But like I said, in comparison with the twentieth century, the twentieth century for most people on earth was absolute hell. People were and we don't have to get into it, but everyone, everyone understands that was that was the real nightmare, you know, being being quarantined and losing a job and even you know, people succumbing to to to an illness tragically is not the same thing as governments literally stampeding over millions and millions of people in such a wanton way that betrayed a total insanity on behalf of large, large swaths of the planet. So that's the that's the big picture perspective that you know, I can only take from looking looking back where we are going forward. Who's to say, But as as it stands now, I think the dynamics my approach would tilt away from the tyranny hypothesis as the ultimate result of this. But that and what that. That doesn't absolve us of the responsibility to demand that our rights be upheld, that our civil liberties be maintained, and it certainly doesn't negate the fact that we still have an overly bloated, inflexible, non responsive governmental structure with improper incentives. But at least it's not the twentieth century. That's a great way to look at it. That that might be the perfect way to look at it right now at this point, you know, with as little information as we have, Miss Jordan Smith, love to get your take on this situation as well. We have to bandy it about pharmaceuticals and that type of thing, because it's been one of those you know, when this thing started to break, everybody was terrified because we made all of our medicines in China and I would love to hear what you're seeing through your sources on that angle of things as well as you know your two cents on it. All. Right, Well, there, there really is a lot going on. The biggest issue that I'm seeing is because of the whole fact that they're saying hydrochloroquine or plaquinil or anything in the chloroquin family is being used to treat individuals with it, they can't come out with anything definitive because half the cases it's working with or supposedly in half the cases it's not. But the issue we're finding is this medication is used for individuals who have lupus or arthritis. You know, there are also versions where it is used as an anti malarial, but it is commonly used for the first two illnesses or you know, diseases asn't mentioned. But the issue with it now is that most basic pharmacies, now I'm not saying all pharmacies are not able to get these medications even though they have patients who are on it as regular maintenance drugs. So that's an issue we're running into. We tried to order multiple bottles we saw where it was available online, and we did not find out until I called today that these medications are actually only open for hospitals. No retail or private pharmacy can access these medications without I mean right now, they're really limiting it, so it's not it's not open to everybody, which makes it hard for us because it's those patients to need that maintenance drugg just to be able to deal with the lupis clera for their arthriders getting worked. So right, there's where I'm seen it. I have seen a bit of a spike in anci antipsychotics, certain bipolar medications. There has been a backlog on it. I think a lot of these pharmacies that use these same warehouses as shippers as we do, are thinking the same thing that these medications are going to be hard to come by, in which it is a positive because certain medications you wouldn't consider have been fallen out on the back order so badly that we just try to grab a couple of bobble tickets through the next couple of months. So it is affecting pharmaceuticals, maybe not to the scale that people were expecting, but still on a scale that it is hurting certain patients in certain areas. Yeah, it's one of those crazy things. You give a little on one side and it takes away from the other side. You know that that issue that you're bringing up, I haven't heard anywhere about the obviously the push for plaque Wanil. That's what they would use, right, the push for that medication to help. Ahead all because somebody worked and I think what it was is forty percent or on an individual case study it worked on but it wasn't enough to be considered definitive. So because of that, people are running on any little bit of hope that it's going to help. But the issue is is it is there's nothing definitive on it. You know, they're going on a hope because it helps only a few patients and not everybody. Jin in the chat, I'm going to say mention real quick. She says she can hope she can get her kids because her and my kids asthma meds next week. Jin, that is something else. If your kids are in Haler's. I have been seeing scripts left and right or Inhalers. A lot of people are now starting to stock up on her in Haler's. There for a while, it was the albuterol, and then people realized they didn't want to deal with the machines. They didn't want to do deal with the biles. Those are easier to come by right now. It is the fast acting and long action inhalers that I am seeing a huge shortage. But they're also set in a limit, so maybe I can't order but three boxes this week or three boxes this month. So it is something to keep in mind. So I've said it before on other shows. It's not that I'm trying to go off the chart here, but most prescriptions check with your law, can be filled every twenty eight days. Okay, some private insurances allow sooner. If you're on Medicaid, it's usually twenty eight days at the max. If it's control, it's once a month. So if that's the case and you see that, you can refill it even though you've got a week and a half or two weeks of medication. Less refill your medication. The only way you're going to get ahead unless your doctors allowing and filling for ninety days with the medication like pased black Onanil and a couple others. Most retail pharmacies are not even giving you ninety days supplies anymore of them are only allowed to keep you thirty. So even if you have a ninety day supply script, it does not mean you're going to get a ninety day script. I'm not trying to scare people, but I want people to be informed and not be upset because some of these pharmacies, their hands are tied and people want to get mad at people like me. But there's nothing I can do if our corporate or our bosses or state has set a standard to try to make these medications last as long as possible for more than just ten people. So what you're dealing with when you have the twenty eight day rule, that's something that that's something that's in place from a supply and demand sort of perspective, or because I don't really know. It's almost I don't want to say it wrong, but for us, it is set by the state. So it's a regulation I got. You really is because of the fact with insurance, most insurances won't allow it sooner. Medicaid definitely does not. They really do set a limit certain Medicaid. You can only feel so many scripts a month. But the issue is is if you get audited and you build something way too soon, that's a big no, no on the pharmacy. So we've got a lot of people who are coming in trying to get us to feel medications that we are bound by this rule. Now there are some pas or some what a PA is as prior authorization or push codes that we can use, but it's only for certain medications. So just because they're allowing certain meds to go through a little early does not mean every medication will go through early. So it is something that we're seeing a lot of pressure in the pharmaceutical alm of it, because everybody was freaking out and now all of a sudden, we've gone from everybody to almost nobody. Yeah, that's that's a story. It seems to be getting buried Jordan, that whole medication situation. I read a lot about food banks. I read a lot about obviously the growth in cases and deaths, and the scare about financials and income for those out of work, and even a little bit about store shelves. Still, but I don't hear anything about the issue with pharmaceuticals. So I do appreciate that. How you feel in other ways personally, how you guys doing at the smith House, and how do you feel about this thing in your state. I feel like my state is still not taking it seriously enough. I feel like some of the corporates are closing things down and save space and save money, but still putting people in harm's way. I know that sounds very harsh, but I have no quarrels with being an essential employee for essential worker, I do have a quarrels with the fact that things are not being ranto standard or a regulation that they should for the safety of the employees and the safety of the patient. So I can say that when I say I'm hired, I'm just tired because it's frustrating. It's like you said in the past, you as times get stressful, and if things get more serious, you start to see a different side of individuals now, sometimes for the better, unfortunately most of the times for the worst. I have to some very intense personality just within my work build alone that I have had to and not yet snap back in essence, because I understand that people handle stress differently, but that doesn't mean you have to take it out on the people around you. And I don't think people realize that because they're still trying to co open gripping their own way. We deal with. Oh, thank you. Yeah, I love it that I got less questions for wearing that than my N ninety five rus In ninety five masks. You got more. I were questions for for wearing that mask. Oh, I got less. Sorry, I got tongued. I got less questions for wearing that than I did for wearing my N ninety five. I got less funny looks than my ninety five. It's fashion now. It's across the barrier now, I. Think, I guess I've had people hitting me up. I had someone offered to buy the mask right off my face. WHOA usn't it? WHOA? That sounds dangerous? It does, it really does. It's a little concern. I'll tell you what. They look great. I'd love the back girl one too. I think you're on. This is something. I don't know how long the mask craze will last, but I don't know. So they do it. We might find out that it might be better to stock up on those rather than the N ninety fives anyway, you know, particularly from the PERSP, now that we've learned that if we buy them all up, it's a real problem for our healthcare providers. You know, people might be more apt to say, let me buy something that's really unique to me and stot in my survival kit. I'd rather have one of those. I think I'd rather have one of those in our pandemic preps kit than the you know, the obviously the N ninety five serves its purpose and we have those for a reason, but you know, it is what it is. The only thing line is I did at three ply, so I have three layers of cotton and there versus the two. I am still working as far as on the pocket, but getting filters alone is a pain. So you hear everybody say put a filter, Put a filter. There's a lot of work that goes into that. I mean a lot of people who can sew have been making masks, so it's nice to have that with a little bit of an extra barrier versus something that's only two or one fly mask. I'll tell you what I've been thinking is what would happen if you just folded? I wonder if you could sew a pocket that was filled with or apply, I don't know what the right word is. If you sewed it that but already filled it with like what's the charcoal product? I'm forgetting activated charcoal. I don't know, and I need I've Actually it's funny that you had activated charcoal. Yeah that's it. Yes, yeah, the science guy watch you step in. Yeah, you could do that. You just have to make sure that the outer part of it is sealed so that the air goes in through the activated charcoal packet. So I mean, you know, like put plastic around the other part of it, because the air is going to go where the least resistance is. But you could definitely definitely do that. Hey, and my wife, you know, she started talking about this years ago. Why can't you use a brawl? And I have to tell you that a be cup works just fine. Good to know. No, I like that anything over a seat, you might as well put it over your chin and everything. Go ahead to child's head. It was bigger than a helmet. Like the child child head disappeared under this woman's Matt braw mask that she had made. So yeah, yeah, that's too big. They say, over a mouthful is wasted. I don't know about that. I don't know. What is your take on that stuff, Dave, that kind of thrown together worst case scenario mask situation. Well, as I always said, you know something is better than nothing. Okay, so you'd want to protect yourself with something, you know, the makeshift masks, handkerchief, bandana. Anything's better than nothing. Hey and I do have some figures for you. Since I was offline for a while, twenty one three hundred National Guard troops have been called up. Now, that's over ten thousand more than last week when reported thirty three states now have lockdown orders. It was thirty one last week, and of course all the states have emergency declarations in place. Hey and Chin came up with an idea for a show, what are we going to do in phase three? You know, since we've been ahead of the curve this whole time? What do you do in phase three? Which I thought was would be a really good show. And Sam b said to me, Hey, why don't we do a show on what you do when you're in quarantine? And she has been in quarantine a long. Long. I don't know if you saw this, guys, but and I didn't grab it. I got I can't believe I missed it yesterday on the Drudge Report. I don't know how many of you frequent the Drudge Report anymore, but I check it, and yesterday there was a picture of a baby and one of the headlines was about Italy and it said phase two. I don't know if anybody saw that or not, but I wanted to grab a screen shirt and send that to you. I did. But on the news today this evening, a tiger that's a positive it's the coronavirus soon and a cat, a domesticated cat. I think out in California was last week. So after all that talk that, you know, we've heard from the beginning that it could spread to animals, and then all of a sudden, you hear, no, no, dogs can't get it. Our feeline friends now have it. The Chinese set some dogs tested positive for it and then they ate them. Yeah, oh, just catch like the Chinese cookbook Fifty Ways to Walk your Dog. Yikes. Yeah. Yeah. You don't want to tone the muscles too much, you know, if you have a you want the muscles to be like really fatty. That's the best kind of meat. You don't want that good marbling on them. You don't want the f physically active dogs leave them. But uh, Jesus, how did we wind up there? So he Dave, we didn't really get a I am we didn't get an update on you guys and kind of what's going on in there the Dave Jones household. Oh absolutely, And m Gray in the chat room says, how the hell would you swab at Tiger's nose? Good point, good point, the same. I guess it would be the same kind of tranquilizer that I need to fall asleep at night, something along those lines. Yeah. Hey, well, what we're doing, we're actually doing really really well. I'm glad the school's closed, okay, because this gives us kind of uh precursor for I was going to homeschool him anyways next year. I was going to homeschool him before this even happened. And I also have to put in perspective. We've only been at this two months, a little over two and a half months now, Okay, so when when people are starting to talk about it's over or we're peaking and all this kind of stuff. No, but yeah, yeah, if you it seems it's just like you said, James, it seems like time has compressed. Yeah. January thirteenth was the first show that we aired on this. Yeah, we're definitely going to have to go back once this thing's all said and done, and just the Corona group, I guess should get together and we should listen to that show and comment on it. That would be a great show to sit back and just oh, yeah, what we were saying, Pause it, talk about it, keep running it. I don't believe what we got. But I think with the I think with the big show of the year for the Prepper Broadcasting Network is going to be will be the sort of the COVID nineteen After Action Report Roundtable with all the hosts that is, that's gonna be the holy mecca for the year. I think I'm really looking forward to. I hope we don't fumble right into economic collapse, into depression, into civil chaos and then you know, the end of the internet because we won't be able to make that show happen amongst others. Day. So home, yeah, we're yeah, go ahead, homeschooling. We're getting a good taste on what home schooling is like. The school finally got their act together and started putting assignments on last week, so we're kind of getting caught up, but uh, this is going to be good. And then next year we're just going to go right into it. So kind of a you know, a test run. If I could get the internet to go out for a while to get the kids attention, I think that would be best. Far from it, I have noticed, and I don't know how many other people have noticed, that cell reception and internet is actually slowed down dramatically. I have noticed areas that I would normally have good signal is actually a very terrible signal, especially during the more through the more suburban and urban areas. I have almost little to no cell receptions just for a phone call. I don't know if anyone else. We've had Yep, we have noticed that here. As a matter of fact, tonight, you guys are sounds like that. It's uh, it's not been bad around here. We've noticed some hiccups and some weird streaming issues, but all in all we're still running pretty well. So thank god for that. I don't know, you know, like I really would like a hub where we could where we could go and find out what really the strain is on the system, you know, in your area, get an idea what the strain is on the resources for the internet, for the medical staff, or the food supply all that stuff. That's something we probably. We have noticed an issue with our internet servers at work. Wow, we're down to every now and then hang it up or even boot us off because we can't get our internet to work fast enough for what we need to process. Well, one of the things I think that was we were all worried about was like the uh, you know, like an upticking hacking and hackers and that type of thing with less people paying attention, So it could be some of that. You never know. Now I've noticed a huge amount of damn junk male and my you know, everybody's trying to jump on there COVID nineteen. And I'm probably getting a punch a bunch of junk techs. I don't know how I, for whatever reason you got signed up on some of these sects. No, I don't need an extra thousand dollars cash advantage. I'm not getting my But now I'm getting all these other texts out of nowhere. I'm like, who, who in the right mind is text right now? Yeah? It's uh, what are you guys thinking about all this? About all this time together with family? You know, it's I'm getting conflicting news from people about it's the time of my life to it's complete and total. Hell, Yeah, who was it in the chat room, said domestic violence is up. That's because they never had to spend so much time with their spouses. Oh I think are you said that I had made a comment about me Greg getting beat by his wife, even tho it was a doubt. Uh yeah, I think are you as the one who said that. I will tell you this personally. In my house, I'm not home as much as my husband. I still have to work, but I have noticed he is more edgy, more quickly to get a little snippety, and I think it's because he can't go out and just go do what he wants like he used to. Well, yeah, there's a lot of that, right, A lot of that weird mentioned from the most people, particularly if they're both working remotely. It's like you never get that kind of time together. And if you factor in children too. Yeah, I would like to, I really would. I would prefer to be home than be where I'm at. But you know, at least I can say I'm still one of the fortunate people who get to work, even if I don't believe, you know, I think if all these people are considered essential personnel, I think we should get paid like we're essential because we're paid. Certainly, Pam, there should be a pay category for essential. Yeah, a few football players make hundreds and thousands a year, if not more, just to run around and type chasing a leather football. But we have to work our butts off all day and don't get paid, not even a quarter of what they make. I'm just saying our economy needs to make and realize. Hey, guess what all the trades workers and people who went and got their license without the college degrees are working our BLUs offer for pennies. Yes, Lucky in the chat room said he knows where to hide to avoid the violence. That's important. Behind, behind the chocolate. That's important. I'll tell you what feels different to me, guys. This is what feels really different to me. For some reason. I don't know why. The time after work feels different. And I don't know if it's because of this is coinciding with the warmer weather or something like that, but I find myself once I'm finished for the day, we're done torturing the kids with whatever I'm trying to torture them with, and oh you know what it is. It just just popped into my head. We're not going anywhere. We usually are going somewhere five nights out of the week, right because you go to the gym a lot. We go other places. And my wife is she's she loves to run out. She's like a runout person, you know what I mean, Let's run out and grab that just you know, aside from being stuck at home and it it just occurred to me just now that there was like this insane level of freedom after work where it's like, Okay, we're gonna eat dinner and then maybe we'll just go walk around with no aspirations. I don't know if anybody's enjoying that, but I tell you what, it's to be sitting in the backyard like around six o'clock and just sitting there with nothing to do is magic to me. The kids in the yard, you know what I mean, and nothing to do, it's nice. Yeah. My wife usually my wife Natalie says, hey, what are you doing? Get to work. I had that problem. Our household has not changed any other than the fact that we homeschooled a cottage full setting and now just doing it at home. But other than that, our whole routine and everything has stayed the same. So I'm working all day, coming home to try to try to cook real quick, clean real quick, try to spend an hour or two knocking out some more masks or whatever it is I'm trying to make, and then calling a night and repeating the next day. So I have not had any of that in my house. Oh man, Yeah, there's something going on here. There's something weird going on here with that, with that situation, it's that it's just we have spent so many years, you know, with with things to do that One of the greatest contrasts right now is at the end of the work day, it's not like fire the engines back up, it's gym time, you know what I mean, or this is happening tonight, or we got a school event or whatever. It's like, oh we can just. Like I don't text day often live a day in your life. If you'd like to come do some of myself. Hey, I'll tell you this much. Those people better be incredibly insanely grateful that they have somebody like you working for because I in your situation, I could see a lot of people tapping out. I could see a whole lot of people in your position saying, uh, I think I'm feeling a little under the weather. I'm not going to be in tomorrow. You say that, but don't think for one second. I haven't already considered that myself for anything coming up in the near future, because I have enough PTO in six times that if I have to hunker down at home, I have no calls about it. No, and you shouldn't. You shouldn't. But it's just yeah, you know, absolutely. It's an integrity thing, That's what it is. Right. There's a lot of people without that kind of integrity, and you know what, they're already on PTO, they've been on PTO a week probably, But the type of person you are, you I'll be in you know what I mean. They got to appreciate that, because that's a big deal at a time like this, particularly in your shoes, with what you do for a living or with what you endure for a living. You know, Hey, James, you were saying in one of your daily audio cashes, and I can't remember which, but you were saying, the amount of honesty that is coming out from preppers. So I have an honest moment if you're ready. Oh yeah, these are my favorite. This is my favorite Prepper theme. That's happening right now. Okay, Well I kind of alluded to it last week, but I didn't tell my brother about this. Okay, I didn't talk to him about it. I mean I did now. I talked to him like two weeks ago, and it floored him like a ton of bricks. He has some comorbidities, overweight, he's hypertension, he has some COPD from smoking all his life, and if he gets this thing, it's going to be bad. And when I told him the truth, it was kind of like, jeez, I was someone would have told me. And all the years I've been prepping, he's been making fun of me. Okay, I hate so and I didn't even think he'd believe me. I didn't think he'd believed me anyway, So I didn't even want to just go there. And two weeks ago I told him. And he has a painter's mask. He does car work and he puts his painter's mask on, goes shopping, and rubber gloves he uses. I told him all this, right, So, I said, you know, I want people that's listening to this broadcast, if there's someone out there that you haven't talked to, talk to them. Tell them the real deal, to tell them this is not the cold or a flu or something that you know, and even though you know under a million people might die, which I think it's going to be way more than that because we're just starting, we're really just starting. It's it's still a lot, and you don't want someone in your family or someone that you care about to die just because they didn't have the information, you know. So I invited him down here to the Home Jones homestead. It's about two hours from where he lives, but he has you know, he probably won't join us. He probably won't and I knew that, so we'll see how it goes. Yeah, I'm loving it. I'm absolutely It's my favorite part of this whole mess. My favorite part of this whole mess is it's really defining people for me that I like in the prepper world is their ability to say, like, oof, I wasn't ready for that, you know what I mean. I'm really digging that. That to me is way more impressive than a guy or a girl who's saying, you know, I got everything I need. There's not one thing we need right now. We are so tuned in and fine tuned, and we were so ready for this thing. Maybe it's true, and it could be true for many preppers out there, but to me, it's just way cooler to hear people go like, oh god, that yup, didn't think about that one. That was a toughie. I'm gonna have to shure that one up next go round. But I think you're also seeing more people who are realizing their biggest issues or faults with everything, whether it be you can plain everything yourself all day, every day and have it perfectly set in your head, but you will really find out your patience and your own prepping skiel when it comes to having a spouse who's not and how much hey when you don't look so Yeah. I'm just saying, you really learn your scope of how ready you really are when you're the prepper in the household and not your partner. Yeah, that's true. That's true, especially when something like this comes around. You know it's such a big deal. It's like the Mike Tyson cal. Well. I have a friend who also she's not a prepper by any means, but she does keep extra can goods in the house. If y'all are like me, just because the cancas is expired, doesn't mean it actually is. I know that sounds horrible. Unless the can is floated or distorted or damaged in some way, it's fine. But I have a friend whose husband will go through both the fridge and the cabinet and anything that is right about to approach that exploration date gets chumps, and you'd be surprised how many things he just throws out before it's even been opened or even look like it's going to turn. So that's definitely Stup's going to run into. And an issue like that when food is becoming a little more that wouldn't say scarce, but not as easily available. Well, i'll tell you what this The biggest thing that that this has exposed to me so far is that there is a cliff in my preparedness that I have to step off of. And I think that I think, if I'm honest, I'm hanging on to that cliff as long as I can. And what I mean by a cliff is the way that we live right now with the things in our household that we expect to have in our household. We're not set up to have all of those things from now until forever. You know, and I'm sure everyone has examples of that, right, like chocolate syrup or something, you know, those sort of weird convenience items. And I mean before this thing kicked off, I do remember telling everyone to make sure you buy up those convenience items. Now if you're a prepper and you're already ready with food storage and that type of thing. But I guess I didn't expect it to be you know, it would it would be a hard switch for us if we had to make the switch from eating the way we eat to eating only food storage and pantry items, especially at this point where the garden isn't really up to park because we eat a lot of fresh fruits and vegetables, and if that stuff went away, it'd be a different life, you know. And there's just there's a gap there, and maybe there should be a gap there. I'm not quite sure yet, but that's that's one of my biggest takeaways so far, as this gap between our day to day lives and expectations compared to what it is I've prepared for in the world of the worst case scenarios. I don't know if you guys are seeing that or if you guys live a more more streamlined lifestyle where if the lights go out, the menu doesn't change, you know what I mean, that type of stuff. No, no, that's that's why I shaid last week, we're gonna miss crackers. Oh right, yeah, I remember that. No, I think we're seeing it too. It's more or less like the refrigerated gallon almond milk. I do have self stable almond milk, but it's one of those things where I'm trying to hold out before I start opening them, because it seems like once you start hitting your reserves, they tend to disappear a lot quicker than your spicipate. Oh yeah, yeah, that's one of those things, right. It's almost like once you crack into them, it feels like a stopwatch, like time's running out on you. So what else you guys got? We're at ten eleven here like this format where we kind of get like one on one, go ahead. No, I just love it on the on the whole stock stuff though, I will tell you I do enjoy seeing the look on my children's face when you can bring something out that they weren't expecting, Like you said, like the chocolate srup I actually thought stopped up on two giant bottles right before all this hit and my my youngest, my oldest daughter was like, oh, mom, we're out of chocolate. We can't have chocolate milk. All of a sudden, you surprise them and they go, what's this? You know, it's that one little thing that it may not be much, but it does bring a smile to your face to know that, hey, you can may not be the biggest thing in the world, but you can still bring a little bit of excitement to surprise your children on something such as one of those comfort items. No, that's a good one. It gives it definitely gives validity too. I bet to uh to what mommy does all the time with this crazy stuff. Right, It's like, well, at the very least, mommy does all this prepping, but she's got some chocolate for us too, so we'll let her have it. Yeah. I make sure that even though I may not be the one eating the seats in the candy, I do have other people in the household who do enjoy that, and to them that is a nice treat. So even in rough scary times, at least you know you can still give you, your children or your family a little bit of happiness in a luxury than just dealing with everything right on top of each other. No, I like that. I like that. I can't wait for the wrap up of this thing. Guys. It's really going to be something. When we get the whole crew on here to tell you about their experience is going to be wild. Oh go ahead, Dave. Well, I say absolutely, you know, coming through on the other side. And that goes back to what Chin was saying about what do we do in phase three? You know, do we want to do like next week's show looking forward to phase three? Do we want to do a show next week? Do we want to skoop a week? That's a very good question and something we should definitely establish now. Uh so, Yeah, But I think numbers are going to change quickly, and it's gonna change people quickly, and we are catching what is happening as it's happened. Yeah, I think I think a numb first of all, I think a show next week is necessary. I think we'll probably and you guys aren't. You know, you don't have to be here for him if you don't want to be here for him every week. But I think we'll we'll go live probably every Monday from now on. Until at least until we're on the downslope of the peak. Maybe maybe even beyond that. I don't know. I just enjoy talking to you Tube, to be quite honest with you, for an hour, but beyond that, beyond that, Phase three to me was kind of post peak. That's the way I was looking at it. I was looking at phase two to be kind of built around this peak hype, like everybody is looking for the peak, because there's this idea that once we hit the peak, we can at least expect to come down off of this thing, you know. So that was kind of my idea with that. I don't know if we'll be there next Monday, though, what do you think? No, definitely not, definitely not. I mean when you consider all the the regions that it hasn't gone through yet, you know, and the isolation is slowing it down, but it's not going to stop it. So, you know, I think there's too many cities that it's percolating in, and that's a that's a thing if they if they look at it and they say, okay, we're past it and they open up these restrictions, we go right back into everybody getting contaminated. I see that happen in the estates, you are going to see a lot of people go into protocol complacency. Definitely. Oh, I've caught myself relaxing off of decontaminating the packages from Amazon. You know, I don't do it as much as I did, you know, like two or three weeks ago. But I still lay them out in the sun. Okay. I still spray them down a little bit with some alcohol, and I still use some gloves and stuff to open them up, but not like I did when I first started. Yeah, it's like I said, this thing is all about endurance now, you know, it's all about enduring. How long can you keep it up? How long? You know that whole thing. But uh yeah, we'll definitely look forward to a show next week. Anybody we should we should tap and bring on? You think. I think Sam, I think you should maybe get Sami. Sam. Yeah. Sam, that's a good call. Be nice to have Sam one. Yeah, yeah, because she she came up with the idea of what to do in quarantine. Maybe that could be the theme of the show. Yeah, maybe we'll do that. Maybe we'll do that because next week we'll certainly have listened the listening audience in here going like these guys are doing like a back office plan in the in the tail end of this show. Oh well, yeah, enjoy it. It's a peek inside the minds of the preper Broadcasting Network. Yeah, because what won't next Monday be the end of the what we're supposed to be the Terrible two weeks? Right, So I think we'll have a pretty we'll have a pretty good argument for the terrible two weeks is probably going to be more like the terrible two months. And now that you understand that you're trapped in the house, still, here's what we can do. Yeah, like that angle, that's a good angle. You're here. Well, and Michael Klein, he always adds another dimension, so if you can get him on board, yeah, I like it. We'll do that, all right, folks, We're getting out of here. It's ten eighteen pm on a Monday, and today was a Monday. I'll just leave it at that, But I do appreciate everyone showing up. 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