Water Wednesday - Reality Check: Hot Water in SHTF

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Well, hello again and welcome back everyone to another fabulously famous, fine and funky episode of reality Check. Here on Prepper Broadcasting Network. Self Reliance and independence delivered to you twenty four hours a day. My name is Michael Klein, and I am your host, broadcasting from Reality Check Studios in an undisclosed location in famously hots South Carolina. We have our satellite in Singapore up and running and we are ready to rock. I would like to welcome all of our regular domestic listeners as well as all of our international listeners to the podcast. We thank you all for tuning in and checking out our sponsors. Don't forget to join our chat room. Head over to prepperbroadcasting dot com. Click on the blue button that says join the live chat. From there, you can pick a random screen name or one that suits you and join in on the fun. Well, before we get started tonight, I got one little announcement we need to make. 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That is preppercamp dot com. The world runs on hot water. That is something I say to myself when I get into the shower after a long, hard day. There is a magical moment when you first step into a hot shower, or you get into a hot bath, and that first blast of hot water begins to soothe your soul. If you don't believe me, try living without it for a few days. Try taking a bath without hot water or at least warm water. Try getting your dishes clean, or try relieving sore muscles without warm water. If you're a woman, try living without hot water during your cycle. Try dealing with all the cramping and all the other joys that come with that time of the month. If you don't have hot water, you know you can only use so many thermcare pads. And don't forget, cleanliness is next to godliness. So the world runs on hot water. That's going to be our show today. So today we're talking about on Reality Check hot water, how to generate it, how to make large quantities of it. Okay, so into typical Reality Check fashion we got to do a little bit of history, a little bit of sciencey stuff. So you know how it goes? All right, here we go starting into it throughout history. Oh got a text message. Throughout history, hot water has proved to be an integral part of that of a civilized nation. There is a reason that major civilizations had public bathhouses and saunas. For the Romans, bathing played a major part in ancient Roman culture and society. It was one of the most common daily activities in Roman culture, and it was practiced across a wide variety of social classes. Throughout many contemporary cultures. They see bathing as, you know, kind of a private activity that you're supposed to be conducted in the home. However, bathing in Rome was a communal activity. Now only the extremely wealthy could afford bathing facilities in their homes, so most people bathed in the communal baths, and they were called due to drummerll thermay sounds like a word we use today, isn't it. In some ways these resembled modern day spas. The Romans raised bathing to a high art as they socialized in these communal baths. The communal baths were available in temples such as like the Imperial fora courtship was conducted there, business deals were sealed. All kinds of important transactions were conducted in the thermay or public baths. Most often these thermay or public baths were built as very very lavish bath houses, and they were often on a natural hot spring. The main component of this section here is the word thermae. It comes from the Greek word thermost, meaning hot. Freshwater would be heated by a fire and channeled into the various bathing rooms. Speaking of rooms, to give you an idea of how important hot water and bathing was to the Romans, they actually divided the bathhouse into multiple chambers, with each room serving a specific purpose. You know, when you look at pictures of the Roman bathhouse, it just looks like a gigantic open pool, and that's what people imagine. Is the bathhouse just a heated swimming pool, But it's actually much more than that. If you have time and nothing to do and want to take a good history lesson, take a look at all the different rooms that make up the thermae. There are many many rooms, and I know I'm going to butcher these names. And if you're a professor of Roman history or Greek. Then forgive me for the way I pronounce these, But this you know, I was raised in the south. This is the best I can pronounce with my southern So the rooms that make up the thermae are the atrium, the appedetarium, the frigidarium, which is where we get our words frigid, the tepidarium, which is tepid or meaning lukewarm, the hippocost, the caldarium maybe cauldron, the laconium or the sudatorium, which is also where we get our word sauna. A steam room, no doubt. And then there were side rooms such as the prefernium like furnace prefernium or the funicatories word here being again furnace. AnyWho. In many ways, the baths were ancient Romans equivalent of a community center. You know, instead of a giant open room with tables and chairs where you play bingo, you had a giant open room where everybody was naked and bathing in hot water seems legit. Because the bathing process took so long, conversation was necessary. Many Romans would use the bath as a place to invite friends to dinner parties. Many politicians would go there to bathe and convince fellow Romans to join their causes, you know, just kind of all all sorts of things where you would get together. It's kind of like the community barbecue today, except for you were just you were you know, you're taking a bath. But it's the same difference. You know, you go there, you meet you fellowship, you talk about business, you try to get people to believe what you're talking about, you know, that kind of thing. One of the problems, though, that the Romans had was bacteria. While the baths were enjoyed by almost every Roman, there were those who criticized them. The water was not renewed often, and the remains of oil, dirt, or even excrement were kept warm and in a soup and provided provided a great petri dish for bacteria to grow. The emperor Marcus Aurelius complained about the dirtiest Celsius, which is where we get the term Celtsius, the temperature thing Celtsius that was his name. While commending its therapeutic virtues, warns not to go with a fresh wound because of the risk of ganggreen and in fact, several tombstones from across the Empire claim. Now this is this is on somebody's tombstone. They claim, quote maths, wine and sects corrupt our bodies, but baths, wine and sects make life worth living. Okay, Next time worth mentioning are the Turkish baths. So that's the Romans. Next up are the Turks. Unlike the Romans, the Turks, the Ottomans, the Arabs and the Syrians use hot air to heat the rooms and then cool flowing water to rense with. This helped to reduce the infections caused by the Roman baths. In modern times we would associate this hot air technology with like the Russian steam bath or like the finished sauna, so you think about it. The Romans, what they basically did is they would they would heat up hot water in a chamber. They would pump or pipe that hot water throughout the building and everybody would bathe in the different pools of water, either the lukewarm water or the hot water or the cool water or whatnot. But then that water was never drained really, I mean it drained off because it was constant freshwater being pushed in. But for the la more or less for the lack of it, there was never a drain. There was never a pump system. There was never you know, what we would associate with like a modern sauna or modern jacouzi or whirlpool or whatever you want to call it. Theirs was. They just had a gigantic pool that filled up with hot water and occasionally, you know, it cycled off a gallon two here and there. But you know, if you've ever like poured oil on top of a pool or had something spilled and it go into your pool, you know how the oil slicky is. Imagine that because you know, the Romans oiled up with everything and all the perfumes and all the smell of goods and all that kind of stuff that had to be washed off. And you know, if you were there first in the day, there's probably not bad. But if you were there, you know, late in the day after everybody else, Jesus anyway, all right, So enough of the Romans and that stuff. Let's jump over to the Turks. So I talked about the hot air, the Turks using hot air to heat rooms and whatnot. We know that hot water played an important life in the past. But now let's jump into some of the bene fits that hot water provide. Us today. So it's not just you know, when you have an SHTFS situation, it's not going to be just having a source of clean water. It's having water. It's having a way to reliably heat the water for our use. Okay, so talking about benefits, first off cold water, because you know, we can't talk about the benefits of water without going through the cold water first. So let's get cold water out of the way. Even though it's a hot water show, when you immerse your body in cold water or even take a cold shower, the colder temperature of the water improves circulation because the body reacts by pumping blood more efficiently. Blood helps bring more oxygen to the muscles and the tissues, which can help relieve swelling and remove lactic acid. Improve circulation is good for the body overall, including the heart. So some athletes or fitness enthusiasts may use cold water or ice baths to help muscle tissue repair itself after finishing a workout. I know you've seen this and some of you may practice it. You've had a really really hard, strenuous workout, you take an ice bath or you take a cold water bath. Well, the reason why is because it helps your muscles. However, for today's show, we're focusing on hot water. The reason people enjoy soaking in the tub of hot water or taking a long hot shower is simple. It's relaxing. Immersing the body and hot water can help relieve tension, relieve stress, relieves muscle pain. The temperature of the water also helps increase circulation throughout the body. Being in the water helps give you your body a break from gravity. So that's a huge thing. You know, they have the aqua therapy where you do in the pool, or they have the immersion pools where you are where you're completely submerged. Part of that is to experience some form of weightlessness or you know, less gravity so that you know it doesn't hurt your joints as much. I know a lot of elderly people really really benefit from that when they have aqua therapy. They're in the pool. They can do workout stuff in the pool and there's not as much gravity pulling on their joint so it's a lot easier to do stuff. Plus the water has a good resistance. But anyway, I digress water helps gives you Taking a bath and soaking gives your body a break from gravity, so to speak. A recent digital health and wellness booklet from the National Swimming Pool Foundation God I didn't even know there was one, and doctor B. Smith shed some light on some surprising findings. Here are just some of the ways that you can benefit from soaking in a hot water bath, as supported by a growing body of scientific research. All the good buffins all right. Number one healing. Immersion in hot water increases blood circulation. More blood flow means more nutrients are available to help cells regenerate, and it spreeds speeds the healing process. Number two is muscle pain relief. The increase in blood circulation helps to remove pain causing chemicals that build up in the tissues. As a result, muscle pain goes away faster. Number three joint pain relief. The buoyancy of water acts as a buffer against the effects of gravity on an injured joint. Like we were saying earlier, lower blood pressure. Most people see their blood pressure go down when they are immersed in hot water. Again, relief stress. All the other good stuff makes sense. A healthier heart. When a person is immersed in warm water, the heart is working harder and more efficiently, similar to how it benefits from exercise. Hey, there we go. I can take a hot bath in lieu of exercising that works for me. Number six is stress relief. Warm water immersion provides a safe, relaxing way to unwine, reduce anxiety, and cope more efficiently with the challenges of daily life. Makes sense. Number seven improved mental health. Scientiffic evidence shows that immersion in water helps us to reduce the effects of stress. Contributed to improve mental help. Well, duh, I mean it's kind of a kind of a given that anybody that knows if you get in there women especially you know, you go, you get a hot bath, you light a care or you get a glass of white wine, preferably a Pino grisio, not that shardon day crap. And you get in there and you sit half your glass and you sit down and you close your eyes, and you have the candle going, maybe some soft music, and you just let the cares go away, and you just sit there for a few minutes and you just enjoy quiet or enjoy your music, and then you enjoy it just you know, try to zone out for a minute. Well, that helps your body mentally, and it helps your body physically and don't judge me for doing what I do on the weekends. All right, anyway, I think the stress of the relief in the mental aspect of the hot water bath is the best thing for me. You know, after working out in the yard or working on a project, I'm dirty, I'm greasy, you know, you just feel icky. Your hair's all matted together, and there are times when I've sweated and I've gotten dirty. My face feels oily. Or for the ladies, you know, your boob sweat makes you feel at like you need a little bath. You know, think about this scenario for the soldiers out there, you can relate. So you go out on patrol. You're on a mission on a hot summer day, and you completely soak all of your clothes and sweat. Plus it's a little dusty and the dirt has stuck to your skin. You want nothing more than take a shower, at least get some wet wipes to clean up. Know what I'm saying, keep them wet wipes. Or let's say you go out camping for a few days and you finally get back home, the first thing you want to do is take a bath, put on some clean clothes, and then order a pizza. Am I right? What I'm getting at here is that the mental aspect. Once you dry off, you feel better, You feel clean, your skin feels clean. You know, it may only last a few minutes toil you start sweating again. But there is nothing like getting a good shower, getting really clean and scrub down, drying off, and then putting on fresh, clean clothes to have a mental boost. I mean, that is a what we would call in the survival industry a force multiplier of sorts, because it's a mental boost. And this is what we're getting at. The mental boost you get from taking a bath, and not just a bath, a hot bath. I mean, a cold water shower is one thing, but you know, hot water just makes all the difference in the world. So when the balloon finally does go up and it all goes to pot, you are going to be subjected to some major mental stresses. You're gonna have to work harder than you ever have. You're not gonna have air conditioning, well that is unless you listen to my off grid AC show. If you listen to that show, you might have off grid air conditioning. Me Anyway, you're gonna be a lot dirtier, so you're gonna have more sore muscles. This is why it's going to be important to have a way of hot water. So in our sedentary lifestyle, and right now now, shout out to the people that are on the farms and are doing the farm work and doing homesteading, because you're already there, you already know what I'm talking about. But for us silly dweters and silly slickers and armchair quarterbacks and armchair social justice warriors and armchair preppers and whatnot, when we actually have to get off our button do real work, we're gonna find that we get a lot dirty, or we sweat a lot more, and we're going to be just overall sore, nasty, terrible, and having a hot shower is going to help with that. Well why and this is why it's important to have hot water. And I am not talking about heating up water on the stove. For all of you out there that are thinking that you're just going to take a pot, you're gonna fill it from water from the creek, you're gonna put it on the stove and you're going to heat it up, and that's how you're going to bathe I have two words for you. Try it. Try doing that the next time you mow your lawn, or you're working outside in the yard for a few hours and you're greasy and you're hot and you're dirty, or you've been out rolling in the dirt for whatever reason. Come back inside and rather than going to get in the shower, get a pot, put it on the stove, turn that water on or turn the fire on, and begin heating that water up. Go ahead and see how long it takes you to heat that gallon or two of water. Once the water gets hot, take a bath with it. Number one, where are you're gonna bathe Can you haul that hot water up to your bathroom and wipe down? Number two, you're gonna find that there's not gonna be enough water. You know, if you don't mind taking a spit bath, then that's cool. But if what if you actually need to soak, What if you actually need to, you know, really wash your hair and maybe wash it twice, You're gonna find out that a pot of water on the stove doesn't get you a large quantity of hot water. Yeah, sure it's hot water, yet it's gonna be nice. But again, if you like spit baths, then hey, go for it. But otherwise it's not gonna work. What if you've sprained your muscle, or you've got something and you need to actually soak. What if you need to soak in ebs and salts. What if you're a woman and you're on your period and you're having cramps. You know, the pot on the stove ain't gonna cut it. What if you have a very bad gas pain and you just need to soak in order to get your lower gi moving. I know that some of you out there that got that problem. You get gas bubbles and they don't move, and you have to go soak in a warm bath. How you're gonna do that with a pot on the stove. Sometimes you actually need to immerse. Actually, sometimes you actually need to submerse yourself in hot water, and that means a bath. Now, I'm not too sure many of you actually have scullery maids that can heat up the water, bring it up, fill your bathtub and anyway, anyway, get on that subject. If you think you're just gonna heat up water on the stove, go ahead and try it. That's my advice. If you think hot water on the stove is gonna be enough for me and my family to bathe and cook with and do whatnot and wash clothes during the apocalypse. Go for it. You try it one weekend. Just put your money where your mouth is and try it. I think what you're gonna find out is you're actually going to need a lot more water than that pot on the stove can provide. And this is especially true for a family. Are you gonna heat that pot up and use the fuel for each person? So, you know, not only thinking about just the pot of hot water. How much wood or gas or having are you using to be able to heat that water up? You know, think of the fuel costs for each person to have a pot of hot water. You know, in the old days, a lot of people would reuse the bath water for the next person. You know, you get the one person that was the least dirty, and maybe goes down to the next least dirty, and then the next dirty, and then the dirty and then finally the dirtiest or maybe it was the other way around, but anyway, a lot of times the dirtiest people would have their own pot. But the least dirty ones are the ones that stayed in the house all day. They may have to reuse the same bath water for everybody, no, thank you. As for me and my house, we want to take a shower. Another aspect to think about is having enough hot water to wash clothes and dishes. Ladies, you know what I'm talking about here When you have to use hot water on clothes as opposed to cold water. Sometimes there are things you don't want hot water for blood. For instance, you don't want to use hot water to clean blood off clothes, it'll set it. Use cold water. Cold Water's great. They have dish deterred that is, I mean, not dish detergent thorugh, Well, I guess they do have dish detergent that's designed for cold water. But they have laundry detergent that's actually designed for cold water. But why do you have to specifically design laundry detergent for cold water? Every other laundry detergent is designed for hot water, and a lot of times you need that hot water in order to melt the oils in the grease to get them to a mulsify to the soap also in that same vein as dishes. You know, dishes, maybe not so much because technically you can wash all your dishes with the pot on the stove, and it can be you know, cool water or warm water. But anyway washing clothes that needs hot water, that might actually need a few pots, and it might be easier to have an on demand hot water instead of just waiting on a pot to boil. So how do we do that? How do we take a good hot shower one there is no power? Well, I'm glad you've asked. For the rest of the show, we're going to be looking at the best ways to generate adequate quantities of hot water. So we know we need hot water. We know we need a lot of hot water. How do we do that at technically in an off grid situation. Well, we've determined that we need to make a lot of hot water. How do we do that? Well, the big question is that depends on your fuel type. If you were smart and you stalkpiled propane, then one of the easiest ways to get hot water is a propane heater. There are a lot of options out there, but the two main ones come down to either using a twenty pound cylinder like what you do on your gas grill, or the little small, one pound disposable green cylinders you may know these as a camp shower. Oh and by the way, that black bag you hang up at your camp site, you know, the coalman thing that it's black and you fill it with water and you set it out at the sun all day long and then at night you use that little bag to shower off. Yeah, that's like the pot. That thing only holds like a gallon or a half gallon. You're not gonna have enough hot water out of that. Maybe if you rinsed off, soaked up, and then rinsed off again, you might squeeze by. But it just just for you. Anyway, it works, but it's not perfect. Like I said, you know, try it. I suggest you try it if you have that and you're like, well, this is what's in my pack. This is what I'm going to be using. Okay, sure, go for it. What I'm talking about are the portable or instant slash on demand water heaters. Okay. First up is the camp Chef And by the way, I'm not endorsing any of these. This is just research and here's what I found. And you know, if I misspeak, then blame Google, not me. Anyway. First up is the camp Chef HWD five That is Hotel Whiskey Delta five camp Chef HWD five Triton water heater. This is one of the most popular camping water heaters slash showers on the market. The water heater first hit the market in two thousand and eight and has a long and great track record with many positive reviews. The camp Chef Capping water heater has a very simple design. It's easy to use. In fact, the water heater only has two control dubs on the front of the unit, the heat and the pressure. There are only three condections that is needed and it can make up to one and a half gallons of hot water a minute, which is actually a pretty good thing. So one and the half gallons of hot water a minute, and that includes the propane connection. It includes a water inlet hose connection and the water outlet hose connection, so water in gas in hot water out there you go. There's no need to worry about lighting a pilot light. This unit has the built in igniter that automatically lights the pilot light that uses two D batteries. This portable propane water heater also has many great features, including a seventy two inch shower hose. Believe me, a long shower hose is worth. It has brackets, freezingy mounting, and a foresetting shower head. You know, the pulsate rain shower, all that kind. Of good stuff. The camp chef does not have a built in pump to send the water through the camping heater. As with many portable water heaters, this unit requires pressurized water source to function, such as it's your home or camp site water connection. This is because the portable water heater requires pressurized water source, it does not work for remote camping or anywhere that does not have a pressurize water source. Here is our first problem. So we have a way to generate hot water, but we have to have it under pressure. Normally that means household pressure or camp pressure. So if you're at a camp site and a big deal. But if you're SHTF and there's no electricity and there's no water coming from the city. You know, if you're remember back to my show How Long Will Utilities Last? There's a reason why I did that show. The way to get pressure in this case is you have to have a pump. In my case, it's going to be twelve vault pump. Or you could read that as me saying you need to get a twelve vault pump. So the pros of the camp cheff or it's easy to use powerful heating thirty four thousand B to you, and there's a lot of monitoring, a lot of mounting options, a lot of monitoring options. There's a lot of mounting options. The cons are there's no way to manually ignite the heater, so if the battery ignition system fails your sol. There has been a few complaints of poor build quality and the biggest one is it needs pressure rise and water to work. Number two is the Zodi Outback Gear Hot Tap travel Shower. Eyo, that's a mouthful. The Zodi Zo d I Zulu Oscar Delta India Zodi Outback Gear Hot Tap travel Shower. If you are camping in a remote area with no reliable or pressurized water source, then the Zodi is for you. The Zodi Travel Shower comes with its own pump. You know, I should be on like the prices right, reading off prices in reading off prices and stuff. You know what do we have in the tongue bob well today? Behind door Number three is the Zodi Travel Shower. This Zodi travel Shower comes with its own pump that runs off of d batteries, allowing this water heater to pressurize and send the water through the heating element for your hot shower. This means that you can literally take a shower anywhere with this self contained portable camping water heater. Bob, I'll shut up anyway seriously. That everything you need packs into a handy hard plastic storage case doubles is kind of like a water tank at the campsite, sort of. To take a hot shower while camping, what you do is you unpack the heating element, You unhack the hoses, the pump from the storage case. You connect the heating alve element to a sixteen ounce propane cylinder. There's those little green things that you put like on a lantern or that you screw into the side of a camp stove. The sixteen ounce propane cylinder, so you connect the propane. It has an adapter where it can go with a bigger tank. You submerge the pump into a water source such as the storage cage or maybe an igloo cooler filled with the water. So if you've got an igloo cooler and all the ice is melted, don't pour that out, put the pump in there, and you use that water to heat it up and take a bath with. Zodi is located in Midvale, you tall, and they are known for their high quality, well built heaters hint hint, built made in America, not cheap Chinese junk. In fact, their products are so trusted that the military, firefighters and ems all used variations of their product. Heck, my dad even uses one. Well little side story here, my dad survived Hurricane Michael. And I know you've probably heard me talk about Hurricane Michael, and it was an absolute disaster for North Florida. Every one of my family was affected by that, and most all of my old friends, basically everybody I've known for the past thirty five years was affected by that storm in a very, very, very bad way. My dad did not get electricity from the day the storm hit to the time he got power back was twenty eight days. You know, can you survive without electricity without taking a hot shower, without maybe getting a hot meal for twenty eight days. One thing he did have was this, he had a Zodi. I don't know what model he had, and I don't know how it worked, but I know that he and his wife took hot shower outside, mind you, but they were able to take hot showers with this little zodie. Now it's you know, you you rent off, you soap up, you scrub down good, and then you turn the zodi back on to rent soft. So it's kind of, you know it kind of It helps if there's two people there, especially if it's a husband and wife team, then you're not worried about anything or you know, mom and the kids whatnot, or dad and the boys. Whatever. But he complains about everything and he loves his So if my dad likes it, then it's probably a pretty good product. Some of the pros include it does not need pressurized water, it is compact, it's easy to transport. There are quality of materials, it's quality design. Some of the cons are there's no recirculator. Now what this means is it doesn't well you know what, you just google it yourself. No recirculator for the water source. The other con, and the big con, is that it'll use a lot of d batteries. Now I could see that if you had land batteries and a solar cell, then you could probably set up something that would have you know, a bigger water, bigger power source. But either way, the biggest complaint is it sucks through d batteries and that can be a bad thing, especially in you know, SHTF. Let's see, you also need to keep the shower short and to the point when you're using this camppeter. The manufacturer states that the unit will heat sixty plus gallons of water between battery and propane refills, so that's not a bad thing. But again, like I said earlier, you're probably gonna want to rinse off, soap up, scrub down good, and then rense off again. You know, you just turn it on, you wet your skin, you wet your hair, then you turn it off. Then you use the soap in the shampoo and you scrub down good, and you lather up good. Then you turn the pump back on and you finish rinsing off, and by then while I you're hot and clean. AnyWho, Third on my list, and in the same vein, is the Zody out back Gear Extreme sc Hot Shower. I'll say it again, Zode Easy outback Gear Extreme sc hot Shower. This unique water heater, with a cylindrical design and a wide way of features, has an outer stainless still cover that ensures durability and protection from rust. It comes with accessories with the back. It comes with an accessory bag that you can store the heater and a stove. Therefore, you get more value for your money. It is environmentally friendly designed that puts the pump on top of the tank instead of batteries to pressurize the water. The outback has a B to U burner to hit the water. Water is heated up to one hundred degrees fahrenheit in about five or ten minutes. On its surface is a temperature strip that acts as a thermometer and displays the current water temperature. The water heater has a shower holder and also comes with a stove. It'll store about three gallons of hot water. The stove is used to heat the water in the tank. It can also be used for cooking. Hence, you get double benefit from using this heater. This best portable let's see this best portable hot water shower heater also comes with a long hose and a shower head that's perfectly designed to save to purposely save water. You can obviously tell I'm reading this from the manufacturer's thing. I just did my research figured out what I wanted to say and the paste it in my notes and I'm reading from their stuff, so forgive me. Let's see. Some of the pros of this Zodie out back Gear Extreme sc hot shower is it's easy to operate fast heating of water saving shower head, you know, for all you green tree hugging people. Presence of a water temperature gauge, unique design which is rust free, stainless still outer covering. Comes with a stove to heat the water. The stove can be used for cooking. Some of the cons are you need to be really careful when placing the tank on top of the burner or when taking it off. So apparently it's not a continuous unit. It actually is just putting a pot on the stove. I don't know. I have to look for something and see what that one is. That's funny. And now that I read that, Oh yeah, phase to read your show notes before the show. Huh. Whoops, Oh, apparently that's a pot on the stove. Maybe it's like a moonshine still that you put on top of the thing. I don't know anyway. Fourth on my list is the Eco Temp L one zero portable outdoor tankless water heater Eco Temp, Ecco TEMP L one zero portable outdoor tankless water heater. This portable propane water heater by Eco Temp. You know what, before I get into that, I don't know. That's the fourth and on the list. Let's go ahead and take a break. Let's pay some bills. I have got to get a sip of water. I am dying here. Let's do take a break. We'll pay our bills, listen to some sponsors, let me wet my whistle, and we will be right back. Prepper camp is a total immersion experience. The more time you get to spend with your fellow preppers, the better. But I did come mainly to network and meet other people. 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Disaster Coffee offers every customer the ability to join the national Disaster Relief effort. Get yours at disastercoffee dot com. Well, welcome back, folks. All right, we're going to pick up where we left off. Fourth on my list is the Ecotemp L ten portable outdoor tankless water heater. This portable propane water heater by Ecotemp has a ten liter capacity. It's rated at seventy four THY five hundred b to US, making it one of the largest and most powerful water heaters on the market. This one is great if you're going to be camping for a long duration, or if you're setting up a semi permanent shower situation like I had a bug out location. This unit runs off a standard propane gas grill tank and requires two D batteries for ignition. However, as with the camp Chef mentioned earlier, this one requires a pressurized water source. It does not include a pump, and if you're remote camping with no source of pressurized water, this one's not going to work. This one does offer convenient and easy to use features like it has a twenty minute safety shut off timer, battery powered ignition, and automatic pressure activation, meaning when you turn on the hot water, the heater turns on and starts making hot water. When you turn off the hot water valve, the heater shuts off. Pros are basically unlimited hot water from a seventy four thousand B to U heater, in other words, a lot of hot water. The cons are that it requires pressurized water source. It is also large and bulky, it is less portable, and there's been a few customer complaints from poor build qualities. However, overall it's a decent system. A lot of times this is used if you've got to spicot. Imagine if you've got a farm and you've got a water pipe run to the end of your paddock and it's you know, I don't know. Let's say it's a couple of hundred feet away from the house. You can put this thing there and have a source of hot water. That's what it's good for. Fifth, and the one that I like, perhaps I think this is one similar to what I have, is the Camplux c A m p l u X. The camp Lux five L one point three two gpm portable water heater, so the five LIMA one point three two golf pop a mic portable water heater, the Camplux five L one point three two gpm portable water heater. The camp Plux water heater uses propane gas to heat the water. Hot water flow is instant once you turn on the heater. It can be connected to a garden hose. It comes with two garden hose attachments. Both of them are one and a half inches in diameter. One of the hoses is female, while the others male. The water heater requires very low water pressure to operate, about point four psi. The flow of water is also adjustable. Two D batteries are environmental friendly, of course, they do the ignition. The water capacity of this heater is five liters with a flow of one point three gallons per minute. It's designed with an oxygen depletion sensor. This heater is therefore suitable for indoor use. That's a good one. Indoor use, however, ensure that the room where it is to be used is well ventilated. Blah blah blah. If you want to compact water heater, try this one. Its size is compact features a folding handle makes it convenient to use indoors and out. Operating this water heater as a portable water heater is pretty easy. All you really need to do is just install it on the wall, make the necessary connections, which again is going to be cold water gas hot water to the hose you know, to your shower thing, and you turn it on and it does its thing. Some of the pros are requires low pressure to operate, It's got energy saving technology, It's safe since it has an automatic shut off system, comes with a variety of attachments. It can be used indoors if you have ventilation, and the hot water supply is instant once you turn it on. However, well, some of the cons are while it is when you go to connect it to the regulator, you really have to pay attention to where you're setting the gasket. So the only con to this one is pay attention when you hook the gas up. So this one is similar to the one that I bought. Mine was a package that also came with a twelve volt water pump and all of the hosing to hook it up. All I really need for mine is just a bucket of water in a tank of propane, it has everything else. I mean, it's compact enough that it stays in my bug out pile so that if I ever have to leave, it goes with me. Okay, last one I'm going to talk about tonight. As far as propane systems. For all of you Coalman campers out there that want all the work done for you, I suggest the Coalman H two Oasis like H two Oasis H two oases, the Coalman H two Oasis portable water heater. This is an all in one package. The Coalman water heater is a compact portable and and it is powered by a propane tank you know the little small screw screw in tanks. The pump is operated using a lithium thelibl blah blah lithium ion battery. Thank you, m I Gray. I know you're making fun of me for saying that. The pump is connected to a water carrier of five gallons and when it turns on, it can produce hot water within the first thirty seconds. Another great thing about this product is that it can heat water up to one hundred and twenty five degrees. The heater distributes hot water within thirty seconds, so you don't have to wait long. The heater has a unique flow technology that gives a consistent performance all of the time, and in stream conditions you will always get the best performance. It has a six foot hose, which is long and convenient for a wide variety of uses. Who would not want such a heater, Well, I for one, because while the pros are it has a long six foot hose, the shower heads adjustable, it's easy to carry, can be dismantled to fit in a bag. The presence of a rechargeable battery, on demand hot water technology, and the presence of an led to show the status of the heater. It requires carefully assembly and dismantling of the heater. I've looked at this thing, and while it's great and it's like an all in one package, it's basically kind of like a water heater in a suitcase, and you know everything's going there. You have to disassemble it and reassemble it every time you want to hook it up. And you've got to be careful with that because a lot of it's plastic, and a lot of it, you know, you can overtighten parts and all that kind of good stuff. I have people that I know that have these and they love them. They just don't ever disassemble them. They get them, they put them together one time and then it you know, they just put it back in the box and it stays assembled, ready to go, and I guess it works. I mean, I guess it's good. They don't have any complaints, but anyway, not for me. I have a bigger list of all the heaters, but I'm not going to talk about them. You can go online and you can search camping heater, you know, propane portable propane water heater, and you'll get just tons and tons of them. I just hit a couple of the high ones that are really really good and have the faults with them. And this is all will and good and whatnot. As far as being able to generate hot water for bathing, washing, cleaning, you know, my choice is going to be the portable hot water heater like the one I mentioned, the camp Luxe. I had to scroll back up the camp Lux. I mean, it's got the most bang for the buck of what I want. The biggest issue that I have is the need of a water pump and pro pane. You know, if you have a twelve volte pump like I did. Mine came with When I bought my water heater, I got it off Amazon. Mine came with a twelve volt water pump. It's part of the package. And so all I have to do is provide propane, a water source and a battery and it does the rest. And that's good for me. And it's designed for When I was thinking it, I was thinking of designing it of you know, taking it to a campground and setting it up on a semi permanent basis. Anyway, So if you have a twelve volte pump and you've got a battery and some solar panels, and you know, one hundred pounds of propane, you should be good and you should be able to conserve you know, conservation there. Don't just waste it, but you should be able to generate hot water for a good good while I say conservatively as in, you know, you turn on the water, you rentse off, you soap up, lather up, and then you walk turn off the water. I mean turn on the water, rents off, turn off the water. Soap up, scrub down, lather on, all that kind of good stuff. Turn on the water and then rentse off. You don't just leave the hot water going the whole time. You can, there's nothing wrong with that, but just know that you're sucking up battery power and you're sucking up propane. And after the balloon goes up, the propane is going to be a precious commodity. And here's also our problem propane. You know, what do we do after the propane goes out? It's all well and good if we have gas, but what if we have no propane? Or what if this event has rolled on long enough that you've run out of gas. Now, you got it, you conserved it, and you were able to squeeze let's say three or four months of showers out of the thing, and that's great. But now we're on the six month mark and we have no more propane. What do we do? Well, then we're back to heating the pot on the stove. Well, maybe a moonshine still is where we need to look. Next night, stay with me and my gray. Don't get too excited. Chill. The modern distillery is usually heated with steam. A coil of pipe runs around inside of the stel and steam is sent to that pipe. That steam heats up the pipe, The pipe heats up the mash and there's a lot of energy in steam. We can use this for a lot of things, but let's start small. At the bottom end of the technology is a simple coil of wire filled with water and placed into a fire. To think about this, we're going to go very very basic, very old school. We take a copper or galvanized pipe with a large surface area, meaning a lot of coils or a lot of s shapes, and we put heat to it. The idea is that you would have two buckets and hoses connected to the coil of the metal pipe, one bucket being in higher elevation than the other. You fill one bucket with fill the higher bucket with water. You place the coils of pipe into the fire coals, and you begin slowly pouring water into the upper end of the pipe and let the water flow through the into the lower bucket. The cold water enters high drains into the lower bucket by passing through the hot coil. The hotter the water. You could run through it a few times, you know, if you wanted to, you'd like you have two buckets and you have like basically an open ended pipe. You take the top bucket and you're slowly pouring water into the top section of the coil. The water is using gravity to go down through the coils. It's getting hot, and it's coming out into the bottom bucket, you know, warm, and then you just repeat the process. You grab the bottom bucket that's now got warm water, you put the empty bucket underneath the pipe, and then you go up stop and you start pouring, and you just make a few cycles, and then you can get your water hotter and hotter and hotter. You can also consequently do that same thing with like the zodies and some of the other camp showers. If you have like a five gallon bucket or ten gallons or whatever in your water source, if it's a confined water source, you can basically pump the pump in the water, run it through the heater, let the shower head just sit back in the pump, and the pump is going to recirculate the hot water and it's going to get hotter and hotter and hotter every time you do that. I don't think you're gonna need to do that because most of the propane water heaters that we talked about heat it the water up really really hot, and you're actually you'll get it too hot very quickly. So there's that. But anyway, if you just have wood and some metal pipe and a couple of buckets, you can make enough hot water to take a decent bath with. And you, like I said, you can go through one or twice, and you know, the hotter the water you get the more times you run it through it kind of thing. One thing though, do not leave an empty coil in the fire. That is bad mojo. If you pour your water into a red hot pipe, it's going to number one, weaken the metal and number two you're going to have a steam bath and probably even a steam explosion. So it might be a good idea to have like two people and because pouring water through the coils while the coils are in the fire, because number one, you're gonna weaken the middle. Number two you could have extream explosion, all right. Next up the scale is the concept of a heat exchanger. So simple coil in the fire. Now we have a heat exchanger. You have two coils of pipe in a closed system, with one coil in the fire and another coal in the water that you want to heat up, and the water in the pipe itself. Place one coal in the fire will heat the water up, and a natural convection will occur when super hot water will move into the cooler coil. The hot water will then transfer the energy to the bucket of the water you're trying to heat. It sounds kind of complicated, but if you just google a heat exchanger, or if you look for a pressurized water reactor like a nuclear reactor, it's the same kind of concept. You have a closed section of pipe, one hot one cold section. The hot section is in the fire, the cold section is in the water that you want to use. The water in the hot section gets flows into the cold section. The cold section flows into the hot section. The hot water coming the hot water will heat the pipe up in the cold section, which will then heat the water up that you want to use. And like I said, it sounds kind of complicated and it's really hard to explain it on the radio here, but if you google heat exchanger or if you look at a pressurized water reactor, it's kind of the same concept. You know. If you want more information, hit me up on Facebook. I can post some graphics or YouTube, or we can jump in discord and discuss it on the discord channel and I can show you some videos, some YouTube videos that will kind of walk you through the process if you're interested. All right, so we have steam. The issues with both of these is we need wood. If you remember my cooking site and smell and op sect shows a lot of fire and a lot of smoke may not be a good thing if you're trying to lay low. So what about a passive solar water heater. This is kind of an obvious solution. You know, there's you don't want to have the fire, you don't want to waste the propane. You don't want to have a lot of wood burning because the smoke could give you away. What if you just want a passive water heater that will heat up water during the day and then you can use it at night. Well, you know the obvious solution here is a whole house water heater that you mount on your roof. You know you've searched these. You've seen these on top of people's roofs. They have the solar water heater and it's for their whole house. You can search for vacuum tube solar water heater and you know, there you go. Perfect solution. However, most of these systems are going to be over a thousand dollars and they still require electricity, mainly to circulate the water. I don't know if you've ever seen one of these. Excuse me, I don't know if if you've ever seen how one of these works. But you have a gigantic water tank with a pump, and during the day when the sun's really really hot and it's heating the water up, what it does is there's temperatures in the pipes, and there's temperatures in the solar array, and there's temperatures in the tank, and the circulator pumps come on and they move the hot water from the solar system down into a thermal holding tank. They move the cold, cold er water in the holding tank up to the roof to heat up. And the thing runs throughout the day, keeping the water in the tank at a constant, you know, temperature so that it's not too hot, not too cold, and also so that there's enough of it. And then at night when you start to use it, you're using the water, the hot water out of the tank and the hot water out of the pipes, and then in the morning the cold water. You know, as you use the water, the system will replace it with cold water. So as you use hot water, cold water's coming in behind it night. It's not going to mix the cold water and the hot water together to give you warm water. It's smart enough to do that, but it still requires electricity and it is expensive. My solution is to use about two hundred or three hundred feet of coiled black irrigation pipe. And if you're on my reality check Facebook page, there's already been a discussion of this. Some people were posting stuff and that's great. They be me to it. Go to Low's or Home Depot or any of your big box stores and get about two hundred or three hundred feet of black irrigation pipe, coil it up and leave it in the sun. You know, YouTube has several good videos to is llustrate this concept. If you just search go on YouTube and search pex coil solar water heater, PEX pop up Echo x ray, pex, pex coil solar water heater, or just google pex coil pex coil, you will get the idea. The premise is is if you take black plastic tube, fill it with water and let it sit in the sun for the few minutes it heats up. Then at night you have about five or ten gallons of hot water to use, you know, again conservation kind of thing. You rents off, soap up rents off. You don't just use the whole ten gallons at once, or you could run the water through it at a low flow and it will continually heat the water, although it's not gonna get hot, it's just going to be you know, moderately warm as much as the sun can warm it up. So you know, however, in my opinion, this is the best solution for off grid hot water. It's silent, there's no smell, there's no fuel. If you make a large enough capacity when you can heat up a lot of water, and I mean large enough capacity, you could have you know, a thousand feet of coils on the top of your roof and just have you know, two or three or four two hundred foot coils of tubing, of black tubing, and you know, even put it on a black surface, or put it inside of a greenhouse of sorts, so that you're getting as much heat transferred into that water as possible. And if you have an old water heater, I mean yeah, an old water heater tank, you could dump the water into it, you know, during the day so that it stays warm, and then fill the tubes up and so that then you have the capacity of hot water in the tank as well as hot water in the coils. And then you know, seven eight o'clock at night, everybody gets their bath and the water hasn't cooled off so much that you have a cold shower any way. Either way, hopefully I have now educated you about how to make enough hot water, and with that I am done. Hopefully I've convinced you edit, edit, edit, and with that I am done. Hopefully I have convinced you to the need of having hot water in a grid down situation and having a reliable source where we can generate a large quantity of hot water. You can make it on a pot on a stove over a fire, but we as humans are going to need a lot more hot water than what our pots and pans can provide. Hopefully, now you will do your own research to see what an option is best for you and yours. And with that, that's all I have for this show is I always say if you have any questions, comments or corrections, hit me up on Facebook or send me an email or on discord on Facebook. Look for my Reality Check Studios group and join it. 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