After the Disater, Virgis Ch 36

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[00:00:28] Chapter 36.

[00:00:31] The Sergeant at the gate was a dark-skinned man whose name tag was labeled Walker.

[00:00:36] Sir, Sergeant Walker greeted him.

[00:00:39] Can you direct me to where the people from Peach Springs are being housed? Cole wondered.

[00:00:43] They're still over at the welcome warehouse, sir.

[00:00:46] They'll be given work assignments and housing from there. Walker informed him.

[00:00:49] It's inside on the left, sir. You can't miss it.

[00:00:52] Thank you, Sergeant. Cole replied.

[00:00:55] Watching the colossal metal gate slide open.

[00:00:58] The people inside looked down and away from Cole as he walked down the street,

[00:01:02] and the tension grew thicker as he approached the welcome warehouse.

[00:01:06] Cole moved towards the massive concrete building.

[00:01:09] Soldiers on catwalks approached him as he progressed through the gate to the desk.

[00:01:15] He was directed to a large courtyard where he found Barry King chatting with a group of refugees.

[00:01:21] Virgis! There you are.

[00:01:24] Are you getting us out of here? Barry asked eagerly as Cole approached.

[00:01:28] I can only take one, Cole admitted.

[00:01:31] Barry looked at him dumbfounded.

[00:01:34] Are you serious? One?

[00:01:37] Cole nodded looking him in the eyes.

[00:01:40] Barry looked down and away lost in thought.

[00:01:43] He finally looked back at Cole.

[00:01:45] You have to take Rydell or Ginger.

[00:01:48] Cole's voice was so cold it frightened him as he responded.

[00:01:52] We've already decided we're taking Ginger.

[00:01:56] Barry nodded. Good. She needs a chance at life.

[00:02:00] She might have more of that here.

[00:02:02] You know what it is we do, Cole answered flatly.

[00:02:05] I know.

[00:02:06] Are you looking for the people that stole our food?

[00:02:09] I'm sending out two teams in the morning, Cole assured him.

[00:02:13] When you find them, you make them pay for what they did.

[00:02:17] Don't worry. They will.

[00:02:19] Do you know where we can find Ginger, Cole asked looking around?

[00:02:23] She's already been given housing in Tent City.

[00:02:25] It's number 240.

[00:02:27] Thanks, Cole replied. He shook Barry's hand.

[00:02:31] Even though his heart was breaking, he remained stoic.

[00:02:34] He could do nothing more than that for the man now.

[00:02:38] Ten minutes inside the welcome warehouse had been more than enough.

[00:02:41] The soldiers circled like hawks and the place was barren and sterile.

[00:02:46] He stepped back into the camp.

[00:02:48] Soldiers were the most numerous occupants on the street

[00:02:51] and they directed him to Ginger's tent.

[00:02:54] You ready to get out of here, Cole asked, pulling the flap to her tent back.

[00:02:58] She was folding clothes and jumped at the sound of Cole's voice.

[00:03:02] Her eyes grew wide with joy and she ran to him throwing her arms around him.

[00:03:07] It's about damn time you showed up, Ginger declared.

[00:03:09] Her red wavy hair bouncing about her face.

[00:03:13] Cole grinned widely holding her tightly.

[00:03:16] You can't believe this place.

[00:03:19] Raidell and Barry will be so happy, Ginger said, letting him go.

[00:03:23] I can only get you out, Cole declared officially.

[00:03:26] Ginger looked at him dumbfounded asking,

[00:03:29] What?

[00:03:30] I don't have jurisdiction over the refugees.

[00:03:33] I could only get one of you out, Cole explained.

[00:03:36] Thinking about his statement, Ginger was confused.

[00:03:40] You chose me?

[00:03:41] I did, Cole replied.

[00:03:43] But I'm not a fighter, Ginger responded.

[00:03:46] You're going to be.

[00:03:48] You can start as a communication specialist, Cole told her.

[00:03:51] But Ginger began to say, Cole cut her off.

[00:03:55] You're not staying here, get your stuff.

[00:03:57] I'm with Tim now, Cole.

[00:03:59] I love him, Ginger admitted.

[00:04:02] This is not about me and you or you and Tim.

[00:04:04] This is about you and you're not living here.

[00:04:07] So get your shit and let's go, Private.

[00:04:10] Ginger smiled widely answering him.

[00:04:13] Yes sir.

[00:04:15] First Private Daryl Guthrie, a young soldier with deep brown eyes,

[00:04:19] met Major Virgis as he and Ginger exited the refugee camp.

[00:04:22] Major Virgis sir, it's an honor serving under you sir.

[00:04:26] Guthley declared eagerly.

[00:04:28] Hold your flattery for a commander that cares.

[00:04:30] Show me how honored you are by performing.

[00:04:33] Cole snapped, turning to walk towards the soldier's barracks.

[00:04:38] Just tell me what you need sir, Guthrie answered him.

[00:04:42] A group of about 15 refugees left Peach Springs headed for Mexico.

[00:04:46] Last we knew they had two trucks with an unknown gasoline supply.

[00:04:51] I need you to find them.

[00:04:53] Guthrie looked at him curiously.

[00:04:55] Yes sir, I'll try.

[00:04:56] But do you have any way to identify them further?

[00:04:59] There's a woman in the refugee camp, Barbara Grissom.

[00:05:03] She'll be able to give you descriptions.

[00:05:05] Take your squad and Alpha Squad, Cole ordered.

[00:05:09] Do you have a place pick for your headquarters?

[00:05:11] Where will we find you, Guthrie wondered?

[00:05:14] Bring the refugees here and then meet us in Reno, Cole directed.

[00:05:18] Yes sir, Guthrie declared, heading off to fulfill his mission.

[00:05:23] Reno, Monroe asked, smiling widely at Ginger as he approached with Chappy.

[00:05:28] We go on for a visit with the Loris, Chappy asked.

[00:05:32] It makes sense to put our base there.

[00:05:34] It has the infrastructure.

[00:05:36] The feds are controlling the Arizona border and Vegas.

[00:05:39] We will need to focus our efforts in Reno, Monroe chuckled, thinking out loud.

[00:05:44] Thanks for your permission, but it's not needed, Cole interjected, amused by his analysis.

[00:05:50] We're going to need more soldiers, Chappy added.

[00:05:53] He's right, we've got a lot of ground to cover and not enough people to do it, Monroe agreed.

[00:05:57] One step at a time, boys.

[00:05:59] I'll get in touch with General McClintock.

[00:06:02] Maybe we can send refugees to Minnesota to get them trained.

[00:06:06] Or we can set up our own, Monroe suggested.

[00:06:09] I think this territory is going to keep us plenty busy.

[00:06:12] We'll be better off keeping our focus there.

[00:06:14] In the meantime, let's get a home base set up and go to task getting these areas stabilized.

[00:06:20] While I'm not complaining, I've been missing to Loris' place, Chappy teased.

[00:06:25] Is it a restaurant? Does she have good food there, Ginger wondered?

[00:06:29] Monroe shook his head, not sure how to respond.

[00:06:32] He smiled answering, more or less.

[00:06:35] Come on, I'll teach you how to inventory gear for the road.

[00:06:38] You promised shooting practice too.

[00:06:41] I'm not going out there in this uniform without more training with this rifle, Ginger insisted.

[00:06:47] Don't worry, we'll have you dialed in before you know it.

[00:06:50] Sure beats living in that camp.

[00:06:53] Curious about what happened, Cole asked. Was it that bad?

[00:06:57] Go take a tour and see for yourself, Major Virgis.

[00:07:00] They treat those people like cattle and they're starving in there, Ginger replied.

[00:07:05] Cole thought about her words, disgusted with the situation.

[00:07:09] But he had only one way to help now.

[00:07:11] Then let's secure more provisions, Cole declared, walking towards the truck.

[00:07:16] Monroe stayed by his side explaining,

[00:07:18] Alex was telling me about a distribution warehouse 30 miles north of here.

[00:07:23] A large group is securing it.

[00:07:24] We could relocate the refugees and secure provisions for ourselves in the camp.

[00:07:30] We're headed that direction anyhow. Get the squads together and the vehicles loaded.

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[00:09:10] Hello and welcome back to the Changing Earth podcast.

[00:09:14] This is episode number 434, season three.

[00:09:20] No, no wrong show.

[00:09:22] Season 15, episode 36.

[00:09:26] I was switching over to audio drama.

[00:09:29] Hey, Chen, what's up?

[00:09:31] Hey, Chen's up, y'all.

[00:09:33] And we have Phil Rablay in the house.

[00:09:35] Hey, Phil, how's it going?

[00:09:37] Hey, Sarah. Hey, Chen. Thanks for having me.

[00:09:39] Yeah, we don't really have a set task on the Changing Earth podcast anymore.

[00:09:45] We've been going so long, we just come and hang out with everybody

[00:09:48] and get her done.

[00:09:50] So we're just going to roll with the punches.

[00:09:53] I do have some clearing house stuff first though.

[00:09:57] And April, the 26th to the 28th, I'll be up in Illinois

[00:10:04] at the Patriot Homesteading Conference.

[00:10:06] So if you guys are in the area, you got to check that out.

[00:10:09] Phil, who's with us?

[00:10:10] I was just on your podcast this morning.

[00:10:14] And that was a blast, by the way.

[00:10:16] I'm glad you enjoyed yourself.

[00:10:18] Yeah, that was good.

[00:10:19] And Gillian, let me know that she is doing the Women Who Prep Conference

[00:10:25] with just an online conference.

[00:10:28] So if you guys want to hang out in your jammies

[00:10:29] and still learn a ton of prepping information,

[00:10:32] that's where it's at, Women Who Prep.

[00:10:35] What, when is that?

[00:10:37] It's April.

[00:10:38] Oh, Jesus in heaven, I couldn't tell you to say my life.

[00:10:40] Gillian has all those dates.

[00:10:41] It's the 27th, April 20th to something.

[00:10:43] I think it's the weekend before I'm there.

[00:10:46] Yeah.

[00:10:47] That sounds pretty close.

[00:10:50] I think so.

[00:10:52] You know, I'm clicking along there.

[00:10:54] I think it's pretty right on.

[00:10:56] Anyway, look that up, Women Who Prep.

[00:10:58] That is for the ladies in the preparedness realm.

[00:11:04] That is ironically enough the same time as the LA Book Fair.

[00:11:07] I just know because my book's going to be out there.

[00:11:10] So that's kind of ironic.

[00:11:12] But then we have Prepper Camp coming up in September, of course.

[00:11:15] And that's just like, it's like my Christmas every year really

[00:11:19] is Prepper Camp.

[00:11:21] We'll just go there.

[00:11:24] Yep.

[00:11:24] And this year I'll have Gillian and my daughter in tow.

[00:11:27] Last year they skipped out this year.

[00:11:30] They, last year me and Andrew Cohn was kind of a last minute

[00:11:34] decision and she was butting up against being able to find

[00:11:38] substitute teachers and everything so she declined to come.

[00:11:41] And then after she said she wasn't coming,

[00:11:44] she spent the next like six weeks bemoaning that.

[00:11:48] So literally the day when tickets went on sale,

[00:11:51] I had everything all signed up and taken care of.

[00:11:54] I was told you're coming like it or not.

[00:11:56] We got to get the Intrepid Commanders family to actually

[00:12:00] come with them one time.

[00:12:02] Make it a family affair.

[00:12:04] Right?

[00:12:05] I know we got boys the same age.

[00:12:08] So Intrepid Commander if you're out there,

[00:12:09] this is the psychological message.

[00:12:14] Bring the family.

[00:12:16] The brow beating will continue until you comply.

[00:12:19] Yes, that's right.

[00:12:20] That is right.

[00:12:22] We'll just have to keep, when he doesn't give me his lines

[00:12:24] for the audio drama, I just keep sending them emojis of

[00:12:28] like line, street line, fly, fly.

[00:12:32] I seriously just hammer them like every day till I get

[00:12:35] those lines because he's like the worst with it.

[00:12:37] I got to just drive him nuts.

[00:12:40] He's like, okay, I didn't even know so many emojis existed

[00:12:43] that you could communicate line through.

[00:12:46] I'm like, mm-hmm.

[00:12:48] So already we just heard Virgis last week.

[00:12:52] He got to choose one person from his group.

[00:12:56] Phil actually plays Virgis.

[00:12:59] So way to go Phil.

[00:13:02] Dave's always like, when I listen to Phil now all I can

[00:13:05] hear is Virgis.

[00:13:07] Well, but I still marveled at the fact that like, you

[00:13:10] know, you specifically pick me because I don't have an accent.

[00:13:14] So I can kind of slip into that role really nicely.

[00:13:17] But for all these years, I thought that my accent was

[00:13:19] just this mangled mismatch of like half Cajun, half

[00:13:23] Southeast Texas.

[00:13:24] So I don't know maybe in the midst of all the

[00:13:25] deployments and everything I lost it.

[00:13:27] Yeah, you did.

[00:13:29] I'm telling you I'm in East Texas and I don't know.

[00:13:32] Say the Sabine River for me.

[00:13:35] I can't say Sabine.

[00:13:37] Sabine.

[00:13:38] There you go.

[00:13:39] See, no, lots of them around there.

[00:13:41] It's like Sabine River.

[00:13:43] Like whatever.

[00:13:44] Yeah.

[00:13:44] That's a different part of Texas apparently.

[00:13:47] I'm talking about.

[00:13:49] All right.

[00:13:50] So yeah, so he's going into the FEMA camp.

[00:13:54] His first glimpse kind of behind the gates and at

[00:13:58] the FEMA camp everybody comes into the welcome

[00:14:00] warehouse first, which is just like a giant

[00:14:03] observation containment center.

[00:14:05] And if you do well, you get released into

[00:14:07] general population and if not, well, you get to

[00:14:10] hang out in the welcome warehouse for a little

[00:14:13] bit longer.

[00:14:15] And it's kind of a harsh reality for him when

[00:14:18] he sees this because like one hand he's all

[00:14:21] pissed off because the refugees just robbed

[00:14:24] them.

[00:14:24] But on the other hand, it's like, oh, this

[00:14:27] sucks in here.

[00:14:28] You know.

[00:14:30] Kind of sees the desperation of their situation,

[00:14:33] I guess.

[00:14:33] Right?

[00:14:34] Yeah.

[00:14:34] It hits home instead of being hidden behind a wall.

[00:14:37] And then, you know, he's off to set up base how

[00:14:41] to feed everyone, how to ensure that these

[00:14:44] free towns that exist are going to stay

[00:14:46] free towns, how to work with the federal

[00:14:49] government while also trying to, you know,

[00:14:54] he's kind of under the radar for the

[00:14:56] militias on letting them know what's going on.

[00:14:58] So he's walking many, many ethical lines

[00:15:01] right now.

[00:15:03] I really liked bringing his character to life.

[00:15:06] It's been a lot of fun to do.

[00:15:08] So thank you for stepping up into that role.

[00:15:12] I knew you were going to be perfect for

[00:15:13] that role.

[00:15:14] I just thought like, oh, that's Phil.

[00:15:18] One unique voice right there.

[00:15:20] Boom.

[00:15:21] So I'll take it.

[00:15:23] You've actually been involved in a lot of

[00:15:27] cleanup situations, both personally and through

[00:15:30] your employment.

[00:15:31] So I thought you were the man to come on

[00:15:34] and talk about, you know, what happens

[00:15:36] after the storm?

[00:15:37] And I'd like to start on the personal level

[00:15:40] in like a micro level and then kind of

[00:15:44] build out from there.

[00:15:46] So everybody, you know, my podcast

[00:15:49] listeners should know he are, but if

[00:15:51] they don't go ahead and introduce yourself

[00:15:53] and then let's kind of jump into it.

[00:15:55] So I guess the short version, because

[00:15:57] Lord knows I could talk the ears off a brass

[00:15:58] monkey is, you know, I am a 41 year old

[00:16:03] husband and father.

[00:16:05] I've been kind of into prepping in

[00:16:08] some way or the other basically since

[00:16:09] I was a kid.

[00:16:10] I mean growing up on the Gulf Coast,

[00:16:12] we get chased around by hurricanes pretty

[00:16:13] much from birth.

[00:16:14] So you learn the lessons of, you know,

[00:16:17] rice and beans and peanut butter and

[00:16:21] that's just a part of life down here.

[00:16:23] To be ready to deal with an extended

[00:16:25] power outage and be prepared to deal

[00:16:27] with whatever mother nature is going

[00:16:29] to throw in your lap because it's

[00:16:31] never a matter of if it's when, how

[00:16:33] long until the next time you all get

[00:16:35] hit.

[00:16:37] When I was 17 years old, I enlisted

[00:16:39] in the Louisiana National Guard.

[00:16:41] So I was on 9-11, I was at Fort

[00:16:45] Eustis, Virginia up in Newport News

[00:16:48] and literally like there in a break

[00:16:51] room in one of the hangars watched

[00:16:53] the second plane hit the tower.

[00:16:55] So it wasn't until about the end of

[00:16:57] 2003, I got the call that my unit was

[00:17:01] going to deploy to Iraq.

[00:17:02] We went in for OIF2 and we were

[00:17:04] there from late January, early

[00:17:06] February of 2004 came home the very

[00:17:09] beginning of February 2005 and, you

[00:17:13] know, Hurricane Katrina was right on

[00:17:15] the heels of that.

[00:17:16] So the end of that August, I was

[00:17:19] still in the Louisiana National Guard.

[00:17:20] We got hit by Hurricane Katrina down

[00:17:23] here in this area and I spent from

[00:17:25] the end of August until December 31st

[00:17:28] on orders with the state assisting

[00:17:30] in the relief efforts.

[00:17:31] So you got deployed as a member of

[00:17:33] the National Guard over to Iraq?

[00:17:35] Yes.

[00:17:35] Interesting.

[00:17:36] Okay.

[00:17:37] Yep.

[00:17:38] Well, I mean for the build up and

[00:17:40] for the numbers and the manpower they

[00:17:41] needed, like I know that my unit

[00:17:43] went to Iraq, another unit that a bunch

[00:17:45] of friends of mine were in that was

[00:17:46] an engineer battalion.

[00:17:48] They went to Afghanistan.

[00:17:49] So like they, you know, during OIF and

[00:17:52] OEF fighting a war on two fronts, the

[00:17:54] DOD was not shy about tapping National

[00:17:56] Guard and even reserve assets left

[00:17:58] and right.

[00:17:59] Gotcha.

[00:18:00] So there's a lot of us, there's a

[00:18:03] whole lot of us that are like age 30

[00:18:04] to 40 who had a very interesting

[00:18:07] time in our teens and 20s in

[00:18:10] combat zones.

[00:18:12] Interesting.

[00:18:13] Well, yeah, you and Bo-Chen, you guys

[00:18:15] are both more used to the hurricane

[00:18:17] type events where we really got

[00:18:21] sucked, you know, when I lived in

[00:18:22] Michigan it was the winter events

[00:18:24] obviously ice storms, things like that

[00:18:26] that would take you out for extended

[00:18:28] period of time.

[00:18:29] And then Cali, the wildfire

[00:18:32] risks.

[00:18:33] So I can tell you after a wildfire

[00:18:37] the process of rebuilding is

[00:18:40] slow because if it's just

[00:18:43] devastation, I mean you're just down

[00:18:45] to concrete.

[00:18:46] Now you're looking at rebuilding homes

[00:18:48] all the, you know, demand for

[00:18:51] supply goes up, demand for contractors

[00:18:53] goes up, demand for everything

[00:18:55] goes up.

[00:18:56] So you're just looking at really

[00:18:58] extending those times where

[00:19:01] you're trying to put life back on track

[00:19:03] and we've lost like whole communities

[00:19:06] now, you know, where the whole

[00:19:08] town, paradise, the whole town was

[00:19:10] wiped out kind of thing.

[00:19:12] So really what I'm thinking, you know,

[00:19:16] personally, I don't want to run, I don't

[00:19:18] want to focus on the basics but if

[00:19:19] you guys have a couple tips for like

[00:19:21] just kind of unique things that you

[00:19:24] found, we talked this morning about

[00:19:26] kind of the holes in your plan.

[00:19:27] Every time it's a disaster scenario

[00:19:30] you got to get to test out what's

[00:19:32] going on, you know.

[00:19:33] So just some like tips that people

[00:19:35] could really take away as far as,

[00:19:37] you know, things maybe they haven't

[00:19:39] thought about beyond what we normally

[00:19:41] talk about as far as like your 72

[00:19:43] hour food supply, your water supply,

[00:19:45] that kind of thing.

[00:19:47] Yeah, well usually when we're talking

[00:19:49] about, usually when we're talking

[00:19:51] about like post-natural disaster

[00:19:52] preparedness specifically and I don't

[00:19:55] draw distinctions between

[00:19:57] what kind of natural

[00:19:59] disaster we're talking about, like

[00:20:01] everybody has the same base needs.

[00:20:03] We all need food, we all need water,

[00:20:04] we all need shelter, if you don't

[00:20:06] have those three things bad things start

[00:20:08] happening very quickly.

[00:20:10] You know, what

[00:20:12] exactly we used to fulfill

[00:20:14] all those needs is going to be drastically

[00:20:16] altered by what type of

[00:20:18] scenario we're talking about in the event

[00:20:20] of like a wildfire or a flood

[00:20:22] staying in your home is no longer

[00:20:24] an option, your home is no longer

[00:20:26] a safe secure

[00:20:28] source of shelter, you have to be able

[00:20:30] to pick up and move and as a result

[00:20:32] if those are the emergencies you're

[00:20:34] thinking about, your preps all have to

[00:20:36] be mobile. On the flip

[00:20:38] side of things, if you're talking about

[00:20:40] hurricanes, like

[00:20:42] you know, hurricane by the grace

[00:20:44] of modern meteorology we know those things

[00:20:46] are coming within a margin of error

[00:20:47] several days maybe even a week out

[00:20:50] so you have time, you have

[00:20:52] sufficient time to make a decision

[00:20:54] on whether or not you need to leave,

[00:20:55] you need to hold where you're at

[00:20:58] but at the end of the day like we all

[00:21:00] have the same base needs so that's always what I try to explain

[00:21:02] to people is if you live in an area where

[00:21:04] let's say a wildfire is your greatest worry

[00:21:07] then you need

[00:21:08] to have your preps mobile so that they can

[00:21:10] move if the wildfire is going to threaten your home

[00:21:12] if your biggest worry is

[00:21:14] say a big tornado like what my inlaw

[00:21:16] some of my inlaw is up in north Louisiana have to deal with

[00:21:19] you probably need to look at her

[00:21:20] at a tornado shelter, you need some

[00:21:22] kind of way to batten down the hatches

[00:21:24] and live through that storm

[00:21:26] and in that tornado shelter

[00:21:27] which will be your shelter you also need to have your emergency food

[00:21:30] emergency water and so on so forth

[00:21:32] on the flip side of things if you're talking

[00:21:34] about a hurricane now I'm in

[00:21:36] kind of a unique situation where my preps

[00:21:40] it

[00:21:40] helps if they're mobile because if I have to

[00:21:42] evacuate my family I need to be able to take

[00:21:44] some stuff with me to take care of everybody

[00:21:46] but if I'm going to make

[00:21:48] if I'm going to choose to like stand my ground

[00:21:50] I have to be prepared to be without

[00:21:52] I tell everybody modern

[00:21:54] modern anything for

[00:21:56] like at least a week bare minimum

[00:21:59] like the

[00:22:00] exercise always give to people is I'm like

[00:22:02] okay imagine if I walk into your house

[00:22:04] and I shut off your main water valve and I flip

[00:22:06] your main breaker what you

[00:22:08] have to do in that situation to survive

[00:22:10] because

[00:22:13] that potentially is what you're

[00:22:14] going to have to suck up and deal with for the next

[00:22:16] one to two weeks after a major hurricane

[00:22:18] it's no power, no running water, no gas

[00:22:21] nothing so if you don't

[00:22:22] have it bottled up stored up on the

[00:22:24] shelf or raider rock and roll

[00:22:26] you're going to learn to do without very quickly

[00:22:29] got resetting

[00:22:30] those lines at the store

[00:22:32] 0% chance of that happening

[00:22:34] yeah

[00:22:35] lines at the store might not be

[00:22:37] yeah

[00:22:40] cause even they can't run right as far as it goes

[00:22:43] after the event

[00:22:44] they won't be able to before the event

[00:22:46] they run

[00:22:47] quick

[00:22:49] and I can't speak for everybody

[00:22:51] I can't speak for everybody else who's dealt with hurricanes

[00:22:54] but I know that

[00:22:55] hurricane Ida which was only a couple of years ago

[00:22:58] down here

[00:22:59] it was a very strong cat for hurricanes

[00:23:01] some people argue it was a cat 5 when it baited

[00:23:04] landfall I don't care all I know

[00:23:06] is the weather station a mile

[00:23:08] and a half away from where I live

[00:23:10] clock 130 mile an hour winds

[00:23:12] when that thing went past us so

[00:23:14] it was spicy

[00:23:16] but in the

[00:23:17] time immediately before that storm

[00:23:19] we have the typical lines at the grocery stores

[00:23:22] lines at the gas pumps all the people that

[00:23:24] were at the last second were freaking out over

[00:23:26] right but in the immediate

[00:23:28] time following the hurricane

[00:23:32] some fuel stations were able to bring in generators

[00:23:34] cause they had fuel in the ground

[00:23:36] they just had to get power to pump it out

[00:23:38] but like there was a severely constricted

[00:23:40] supply a lot

[00:23:42] of these places were

[00:23:44] only pump they were prioritizing

[00:23:46] first responders so like if you

[00:23:48] had a police cruiser or if you had

[00:23:50] an ambulance they

[00:23:52] divert the rest of the line and lets you come fuel up

[00:23:54] well that happens often enough

[00:23:56] then the guy who is trying to get 5 gallons to feed

[00:23:58] his generator to keep his food from spoiling

[00:24:00] doesn't get fuel so

[00:24:02] that's why I keep going back

[00:24:04] to this idea that like

[00:24:06] you know the idea that well the hurricane

[00:24:08] passed yesterday I can go out I can get stuff

[00:24:10] you gotta let go of that

[00:24:12] like not only may

[00:24:14] you not be able to

[00:24:15] but you don't want to be on

[00:24:18] the road when there's tree limbs

[00:24:20] and there's power lines down

[00:24:22] you don't want to be in these lines full of

[00:24:24] angry irritable people

[00:24:25] where things can pop off and things have been known

[00:24:28] to pop off you don't want to be

[00:24:30] in any of those situations you want to be at your

[00:24:32] home taking care of your property

[00:24:33] securing your loved ones

[00:24:36] that's where you need to focus your energy

[00:24:38] if you have a good relationship

[00:24:40] with your neighbors you need to be focusing

[00:24:42] on making sure that everybody is productive

[00:24:43] and everybody is taking care of and everybody is in a good place

[00:24:46] and if you don't have a good relationship

[00:24:48] with your neighbors you might want to work on that

[00:24:50] just a little bit because I'll be the first

[00:24:52] one to say you know

[00:24:53] that the next morning after hurricane

[00:24:56] item when we were all in the front yard

[00:24:58] it was a real quick assessment of who's

[00:25:00] in bad shape who's staying who's

[00:25:02] sleeping right yeah and chin you

[00:25:04] talk a lot about this too like

[00:25:06] helping your neighbors back in the

[00:25:08] town home days

[00:25:10] yeah and that's when

[00:25:12] I met my neighbors to moat

[00:25:14] with

[00:25:15] pre-storm helping everybody get their

[00:25:18] shutters put up

[00:25:19] people didn't you know in a town home

[00:25:21] situation a lot of transient people coming

[00:25:24] in people going out rental units and stuff

[00:25:26] and they didn't know it was the old

[00:25:28] hat there so I was always out there

[00:25:29] with the ladder trying to help people get organized

[00:25:32] get

[00:25:34] stuff put up the one thing that

[00:25:36] I had happened well it didn't affect

[00:25:38] me because I was good to go

[00:25:39] but we had

[00:25:41] a Walmart that was probably

[00:25:44] three miles from house so I

[00:25:45] drove by it all the time

[00:25:47] it closed up about four days out from

[00:25:49] landfall we predicted

[00:25:51] landfall so if

[00:25:53] your game plan was to go to

[00:25:55] Walmart you know the night before the storm

[00:25:57] or two days before the storm you were

[00:25:59] screwed it was

[00:26:01] surprised

[00:26:03] at how early they boarded that store

[00:26:05] interesting yeah and like

[00:26:07] following the snowstorm here

[00:26:09] when we actually had that crazy snowstorm

[00:26:12] they couldn't

[00:26:13] get any trucks in to Walmart like

[00:26:15] it was done you know so

[00:26:17] people that were like oh well I need this

[00:26:19] and that the other well no it wasn't happening

[00:26:22] and Charleston they would direct all

[00:26:24] traffic going out

[00:26:25] so I mean

[00:26:27] the interstate all four lanes were

[00:26:29] going out outbound instead of coming

[00:26:31] in so

[00:26:33] and that was also something I was going to mention

[00:26:35] since y'all brought up the trucks you know Sarah earlier

[00:26:37] when you were talking about wildfires and how they just

[00:26:39] they just march across the landscape

[00:26:41] and devastate everything but

[00:26:43] the other thing I don't think a lot of people think about

[00:26:45] and this is a little bit more of a macro perspective

[00:26:47] but when you're talking about disaster recovery

[00:26:49] you're talking about

[00:26:51] stretch supply lines at a certain point

[00:26:53] like after Hurricane Ida

[00:26:55] I found out just from like local

[00:26:57] you know like local word of mouth

[00:26:59] apparently there was a man who

[00:27:01] he had a

[00:27:02] he had a two axle trailer he had

[00:27:05] several large commercial fuel

[00:27:07] tanks on it he was filling up

[00:27:09] about an hour east of us out in like

[00:27:11] Gulfport Biloxi Mississippi

[00:27:12] and he was taking fuel

[00:27:15] with a manual transfer pump down to

[00:27:17] family he had in New Orleans

[00:27:18] and he was running back and forth every

[00:27:21] day to keep them stocked with fuel for their

[00:27:23] generators and everything but the reason

[00:27:25] he had to go that far was because

[00:27:26] where I was there were only

[00:27:29] a couple of gas stations at this point that were

[00:27:31] really open and you were not

[00:27:33] going to sit there and get 200 gallons

[00:27:35] when everybody else is trying

[00:27:37] to get five gallons to keep the generator running

[00:27:38] somebody would have started a fist fight over that

[00:27:41] right so like he was having

[00:27:43] people were having to go

[00:27:45] 100 miles in some cases

[00:27:47] 50 miles in a lot of cases

[00:27:49] to go get fuel and go get food

[00:27:51] and go get water and then bring it back into the area

[00:27:53] and that's something that I think

[00:27:55] people need to bear in mind is that the supply lines

[00:27:57] get stretched very very quickly

[00:28:00] building materials after a major

[00:28:01] hurricane become very difficult

[00:28:03] to get in the local area because

[00:28:05] before trucks like

[00:28:07] your local Home Depot or your local

[00:28:10] Lowe's or whatever wherever you normally get

[00:28:11] plywood for example before

[00:28:13] they can get a truck full of plywood

[00:28:15] into that store to refill it so you can

[00:28:17] get whatever you need to fix your house

[00:28:19] they have to get the power stood back up

[00:28:21] they have to get fuel trucks and they have to

[00:28:23] get fuel because if those truckers can't get

[00:28:25] fuel they're not coming

[00:28:27] so it turns into this situation where

[00:28:29] like you have all these

[00:28:31] tasks that have to be done

[00:28:33] and they cascade on each other

[00:28:35] you have to get a done before you can do b

[00:28:37] and then you have to get c and then you have to get d

[00:28:39] and there is no putting them in a different

[00:28:41] order it has to get done

[00:28:43] in the order it has to get done in like that was

[00:28:46] that was part of the situation we have

[00:28:47] post Hurricane Katrina down in New Orleans

[00:28:49] and I only know this because my dad at the time

[00:28:51] worked for energy work for the major power company

[00:28:53] which one day I will

[00:28:55] get him to come on my podcast and talk about

[00:28:57] Hurricane Katrina because he can tell some stories

[00:29:00] but

[00:29:01] you know the part of the situation

[00:29:03] energy had was they were trying to get power restored

[00:29:05] because you kind of needed to

[00:29:07] but they had trouble doing that because

[00:29:09] so much of these areas were under water

[00:29:11] well they had to get the pumps

[00:29:13] back on to pump the water out of the

[00:29:15] streets they had to get the levy

[00:29:17] breaches fixed before they could do that

[00:29:19] and before you could turn the pumps on you need the power

[00:29:21] it was this

[00:29:23] weird situation where it's like okay we have

[00:29:25] three things it's like watching

[00:29:27] three dogs chase each other around the circle

[00:29:29] yeah and even after

[00:29:31] like even during COVID

[00:29:33] and all that back in

[00:29:36] California in the area that I'm

[00:29:37] from or that I

[00:29:39] lived in when

[00:29:41] the supply chain started going down

[00:29:43] heavily like you

[00:29:45] could already see the movement

[00:29:47] from people in the city

[00:29:49] driving an hour out to

[00:29:51] the country stores to the country

[00:29:53] grocery to the country grocery stores

[00:29:55] because those were the ones that

[00:29:57] still had food left

[00:29:59] as opposed to like those inner city

[00:30:01] grocery stores

[00:30:03] and that and they were just totally

[00:30:05] I would almost

[00:30:07] argue that the urban areas

[00:30:09] need to think food

[00:30:11] more

[00:30:14] urgently than

[00:30:15] people in the country because there's

[00:30:17] so many more people vying for those

[00:30:19] supplies that are in the store

[00:30:21] that if you don't

[00:30:23] have that ready to go somewhere

[00:30:25] and you're thinking you're going to be able to keep

[00:30:27] shopping on a daily basis

[00:30:28] well that's just not going to happen I think

[00:30:31] they most of them are on a one day supply

[00:30:33] now it like you say it's this

[00:30:35] very delicate dance of supply

[00:30:37] chain that we do and they can easily

[00:30:39] easily be

[00:30:41] shaken

[00:30:43] extremely easily I mean but

[00:30:45] this is also the reason why like

[00:30:46] you know

[00:30:48] since you brought COVID like when

[00:30:50] COVID first first

[00:30:52] came to this country

[00:30:53] and I'm talking like the I'm talking about

[00:30:56] the days immediately proceeding

[00:30:58] two weeks slow the spread

[00:30:59] when no one no one legitimately knew

[00:31:02] what the hell was going on because we

[00:31:04] weren't getting any reliable information from

[00:31:05] anybody who could have possibly known anything

[00:31:08] like I sat down with

[00:31:09] my wife and we had a very

[00:31:11] very serious discussion about

[00:31:14] how bad do we think this is

[00:31:16] what do we think is going on because again there's no

[00:31:18] reliable information source I told my wife

[00:31:20] I'm like you know bear in mind

[00:31:22] that at this point the decision to be made

[00:31:23] center body home everybody's going to remote work

[00:31:25] that's how this is going to be and I told

[00:31:28] Gillian I'm like I had

[00:31:30] we have enough food and water and everything

[00:31:32] in this house to nail that

[00:31:34] front door shut and wait this

[00:31:36] out right care takes three months

[00:31:38] or six months like we can figure

[00:31:40] this out we don't have to

[00:31:42] go to the grocery store we don't have to have

[00:31:43] contact with the outside world

[00:31:45] but I can tell you what's about to happen in the next

[00:31:47] two weeks and that feeling

[00:31:50] like that security

[00:31:51] that's like going okay

[00:31:53] I can weather this storm I'm on be alright

[00:31:55] you know yeah

[00:31:57] but what I told Gillian was I'm like in the next

[00:31:59] two weeks one of two things is going to happen

[00:32:01] either the entire New York City

[00:32:03] metro area and

[00:32:05] at least two major metro areas in California

[00:32:07] where you have that high population density

[00:32:09] are going to literally

[00:32:12] implode because

[00:32:13] this will prove to be so devastating

[00:32:15] so communicable it will just in a wipe

[00:32:17] out whole metro areas in a matter

[00:32:19] of two weeks or

[00:32:21] that's not going to happen

[00:32:23] and then now we know something we didn't

[00:32:25] we don't know today will know something

[00:32:27] two weeks so for the next two weeks

[00:32:29] we didn't go to the grocery store we didn't do without we had

[00:32:31] everything we needed hell we were eating

[00:32:33] tacos and you know baking

[00:32:35] and stuff it literally are

[00:32:37] our preps are built around the idea

[00:32:39] that if I want it I better

[00:32:41] find a way to have it

[00:32:43] and put some back on the shelf

[00:32:45] so like we didn't feel the pinch

[00:32:47] but once that to that two week

[00:32:49] period passed and we realized okay

[00:32:51] we now have some data coming in

[00:32:53] we have a pretty good idea of who this is impacting

[00:32:55] worse than others and

[00:32:57] two people in their late 30s and pretty good health

[00:32:59] I feel like will be okay

[00:33:00] so from that moment forward my wife and I adopted

[00:33:03] a plan of

[00:33:05] we're going to go to the grocery store

[00:33:07] regularly just like we do now

[00:33:09] and we're going to

[00:33:11] continue to buy food whether we need it or not

[00:33:13] you know I'm saying like

[00:33:14] the store shelves the stores

[00:33:17] operate on this just in time

[00:33:19] yeah you know system where

[00:33:21] they when

[00:33:22] when the in optimal

[00:33:25] usage the truck will show up and bring

[00:33:27] you the widget right after you sell the last one

[00:33:30] like that's how just in time supply chains

[00:33:31] work so what I told Gillian was

[00:33:33] I'm like to stay ahead of a potential

[00:33:35] supply chain deficit we're going to continue to buy

[00:33:37] stuff whether we need it or not

[00:33:39] we're not going to

[00:33:41] eat into six months worth of preps

[00:33:43] we're going to continue to buy stuff so that that

[00:33:45] the period in time where we would

[00:33:47] run out of food every week

[00:33:49] gets backed up another week

[00:33:51] and we've continued to do that for the last several

[00:33:53] years I mean we put a lot of effort

[00:33:55] into our food stock and into long

[00:33:57] term into midterm into a

[00:33:59] chest freezer full of meat

[00:34:01] and now we're at a point where we're trying to kind

[00:34:03] of like pull back on the range just a little bit

[00:34:05] be a little more strategic with

[00:34:07] what we buy because like I didn't realize

[00:34:09] until I went into that chest freezer a week

[00:34:11] or two ago I have probably

[00:34:13] 40 pounds of ground beef in the chest

[00:34:15] freezer right had no earthly idea how much

[00:34:17] I had didn't care every time

[00:34:19] I went on sale every time

[00:34:21] every time it went on sale go buy a bunch

[00:34:23] vacuum bag it shove into the freezer we'll eat

[00:34:25] it eventually one of

[00:34:27] the interesting things that

[00:34:29] Chen brought up to me last week

[00:34:31] that I didn't think about because I've

[00:34:33] been living country so long

[00:34:35] was the road

[00:34:37] infrastructure so that you

[00:34:39] want to share that story there Chen

[00:34:43] what was it

[00:34:44] about having when

[00:34:45] the rain's coming in and all that like your

[00:34:47] roads just slip in

[00:34:49] and you're the one

[00:34:51] who's responsible for caring

[00:34:54] for that

[00:34:55] oh yeah I'm private right

[00:34:57] most people are like urban

[00:34:59] setting you don't think about

[00:35:01] like that's not your job

[00:35:03] but in a disaster

[00:35:05] right yeah I'm

[00:35:07] like totally rural so I'm like

[00:35:09] there's a country road and then

[00:35:11] there's a small paved road which

[00:35:13] you basically have to pull over to let another car

[00:35:15] go by and then there's

[00:35:16] road that goes up to my driveway

[00:35:19] road so I mean I'm like

[00:35:22] and

[00:35:23] from the end of the pavement

[00:35:24] all the way up to my house it's just

[00:35:27] me and a few neighbors that have to get out

[00:35:29] there with shovels, rakes

[00:35:31] and I mean I bought a tractor so

[00:35:33] we are the road crew

[00:35:35] you know

[00:35:36] yeah and I started this

[00:35:39] thinking about it because we did the same thing

[00:35:41] when we left off Panabskow road

[00:35:42] it was the same way like you're

[00:35:45] literally out there filling potholes taking care

[00:35:47] of that road but

[00:35:49] urban setting like in my

[00:35:51] current house it would be like that's not

[00:35:53] even something you think about as an individual

[00:35:55] like what if your roadway is

[00:35:57] damaged who's going to take care of that

[00:36:00] like are you going to be sitting there waiting

[00:36:01] for help to come in or

[00:36:03] do you have any kind of skills to be able to tackle that

[00:36:06] you know I mean I know

[00:36:07] Phil's got some mad chainsaw

[00:36:09] skills now I'm sure after

[00:36:11] going through some hurricanes

[00:36:14] but that's something that a suburban

[00:36:16] might not think about but

[00:36:17] to have a chainsaw

[00:36:19] know how to use it, have the oils

[00:36:21] bar oil and everything so you can actually run it

[00:36:24] might be your way out

[00:36:27] right some essentials that we don't

[00:36:31] necessarily

[00:36:32] focus on when you're in an urban setting

[00:36:34] as compared to a country setting

[00:36:37] so

[00:36:37] driving in town a year ago

[00:36:40] and we had a thunderstorm

[00:36:42] and like the next day we were driving into town

[00:36:44] and a tree had come down

[00:36:46] across the road

[00:36:48] and there was a road crew

[00:36:50] there was just two guys that pick up trucks

[00:36:52] with chainsaw

[00:36:54] and they were just cutting the tree in two spots

[00:36:55] and then pushing it out of the way with their truck

[00:36:57] I mean it was just

[00:36:58] they had to get by so they had what they needed

[00:37:01] in the back of the truck and they moved it

[00:37:03] the road crew wasn't there yet

[00:37:05] it's definitely a different personality

[00:37:07] yeah

[00:37:08] but since you brought up chainsaw skills

[00:37:11] I'll be the first to admit that

[00:37:12] Hurricane Ida when that hit my house

[00:37:15] I didn't even own a chainsaw

[00:37:16] I had never needed one

[00:37:18] I lived in the suburbs

[00:37:20] you know like I wasn't a complete moron

[00:37:22] thankfully so like I had an axe

[00:37:24] and I had a bow saw and a pole saw

[00:37:26] and you know typical homeowner stuff

[00:37:28] like if I needed if I had a

[00:37:30] one time we had a tree like a little

[00:37:32] bit of a spindly thing maybe about four inches around the trunk

[00:37:34] but it was leaning over

[00:37:36] my yard from the wood line

[00:37:38] next to my house so I went out there with the axe

[00:37:40] and took a notch out of it and cut the backside

[00:37:42] I mean I felled a tree with an axe

[00:37:44] because I had an axe

[00:37:45] I needed the tree down I dealt with the problem

[00:37:48] but when two oak trees land on your house

[00:37:51] and one squash is your front yard

[00:37:52] there is no amount of axe

[00:37:54] and bow saw that's going to fix that problem

[00:37:55] I needed it so

[00:37:58] fortunately we had some family come in from out of town

[00:38:00] and my brother-in-law called me up

[00:38:02] like the morning they showed up at our house

[00:38:04] he showed up they got there that afternoon

[00:38:06] they called me up he said hey how much do you want me to spend

[00:38:08] on your first chainsaw that I'd like you to reimburse me for

[00:38:11] yep

[00:38:11] and like that's that's when I learned

[00:38:14] how to use a chainsaw at age

[00:38:16] I don't know what was I 38 39

[00:38:18] right

[00:38:19] we were cutting up all the junk

[00:38:22] in the front yard and figured it out

[00:38:24] I mean that's when I got

[00:38:26] that's when I learned that skill

[00:38:27] those types of things are coming to my mind because

[00:38:30] like in my books

[00:38:32] it's not just a local disaster

[00:38:34] right it's a national disaster

[00:38:36] so when

[00:38:37] you start having disaster on that level

[00:38:40] where

[00:38:42] you have multiple impact areas

[00:38:44] and you can't just shift forces

[00:38:46] you know and shift resources

[00:38:48] around as fast to be able to help people

[00:38:50] in those zones

[00:38:52] that's when it could get really problematic

[00:38:54] and so you as an individual

[00:38:56] you have to be ready to go out

[00:38:58] and be your state

[00:39:00] whatever road crew there's nobody to call

[00:39:02] right if the trees down

[00:39:04] you're gonna have to take care of it how are you gonna do that

[00:39:06] like you say with your axe

[00:39:08] or with a tool that fits the job

[00:39:10] and so sometimes

[00:39:12] I think we need to

[00:39:14] that's what I say like expand beyond the basics

[00:39:16] so we're thinking about

[00:39:18] okay there is road infrastructure here

[00:39:20] there is serious infrastructure

[00:39:22] and if people can't

[00:39:24] I mean everybody's like oh the government's gonna come help me

[00:39:28] no they're not

[00:39:30] you know especially if it's

[00:39:32] a nationwide

[00:39:34] something right now

[00:39:36] they're talking about a coordinated attack

[00:39:38] that might happen to our country

[00:39:39] everybody should be prepared for this type of thing

[00:39:42] you know so if it is

[00:39:44] something that's affecting multiple areas

[00:39:46] now we are the

[00:39:47] response team and people

[00:39:49] really need to step up to that plate be ready

[00:39:51] to step up to that plate

[00:39:53] to go out with your neighbors and take care of it

[00:39:55] but even on that level

[00:39:57] I mean a disaster on the scale

[00:39:59] what you're talking about

[00:40:01] no one is coming to save you

[00:40:03] you are going to figure your own life out

[00:40:05] and that's just the way it is but

[00:40:06] I tend to take a little bit

[00:40:08] different point of view even when we're talking

[00:40:10] about a localized disaster

[00:40:12] like for example cap 4

[00:40:14] cap 5 hurricane because those things don't

[00:40:16] hit a neighborhood they wipe out like

[00:40:18] 7 zip codes

[00:40:19] but I take the point of view

[00:40:22] of even if

[00:40:24] I know our neighbors to the east

[00:40:26] our neighbors to the west you know God bless

[00:40:28] Texas and Mississippi consent or it's an A to us

[00:40:32] I got into preparedness

[00:40:34] because I feel like I have a duty as a husband

[00:40:36] and father to provide for my family

[00:40:38] and I'm sorry honey

[00:40:40] the powers out is not an acceptable

[00:40:42] answer when your kid is hungry

[00:40:44] or your wife is hungry you're

[00:40:46] gonna have to you know

[00:40:48] at a certain point I take the point of view

[00:40:50] of even if I know help is coming

[00:40:52] I want to be able to self-aid

[00:40:54] because I want help on my terms

[00:40:56] right I want to be able

[00:40:57] the day after the hurricane because like

[00:41:00] this is exactly what we did after Ida

[00:41:01] the day after the hurricane my daughter

[00:41:03] flew kite in the front yard she needed a

[00:41:05] little decompression time after you know

[00:41:07] the hell on earth we dealt with that night

[00:41:10] and I stood up at 10 by 10

[00:41:11] pop up 10 in the front yard to give me

[00:41:13] a wife some cover from the sun and get

[00:41:15] us out of the hot house

[00:41:17] and then some ventilation it was August

[00:41:19] pulled out a couple lawn chairs

[00:41:22] you know

[00:41:23] grabbed some bottled water off the shelf

[00:41:25] started a pot I think I started a pot of something

[00:41:27] outside on the

[00:41:29] on the camp stove to get us fed

[00:41:31] but like you know

[00:41:32] I did not want

[00:41:34] to have to wait for the parish

[00:41:36] or for the state or for God Almighty

[00:41:38] FEMA to show up

[00:41:40] to feed us and take care of us that's

[00:41:43] that's a level of

[00:41:45] that's a level of helplessness I'm just

[00:41:47] not willing to tolerate so my point of view

[00:41:48] is whether we're talking

[00:41:50] about help is not coming or help is

[00:41:52] simply not going to be here in the next five minutes

[00:41:55] I think everybody has a real obligation

[00:41:57] to assume that help is not coming

[00:41:59] because if it does show

[00:42:01] up and you're taking care of you

[00:42:03] to alleviate a burden that could go to someone

[00:42:05] less fortunate but if help's

[00:42:07] not coming you have alleviated

[00:42:09] your own burden I love that point of

[00:42:11] view as well that's that's a great

[00:42:13] point of view for it

[00:42:15] yeah that's one thing I was going to talk about

[00:42:17] like personal verse state

[00:42:19] verse federal response

[00:42:21] time I mean if you can help yourself

[00:42:23] by all means help yourself

[00:42:25] right I mean come on now

[00:42:27] yeah yeah after after Ida

[00:42:29] my wife with my wife walked around

[00:42:30] and checked in on a bunch of the neighbors found

[00:42:32] an older couple about a half a block

[00:42:34] away from us they had no emergency

[00:42:36] water yeah now

[00:42:38] the we're on city water but the whole

[00:42:41] like I was telling you earlier the holding tank that services our

[00:42:43] subdivision got hit with a pine tree so

[00:42:45] like water pressure was zero

[00:42:46] the next morning after Ida

[00:42:48] but this couple like

[00:42:50] they couldn't cook rice they couldn't have anything to

[00:42:53] drink they were dead in the water and my wife was like

[00:42:55] can we help them out

[00:42:57] and I was like yes

[00:42:58] like I know I have a

[00:43:00] 28 days supply of water bottled up on the shelf

[00:43:04] yes go take them

[00:43:05] take some bring it to them

[00:43:07] call it an act of mercy

[00:43:08] I don't want them to die in their

[00:43:10] in their house when we have the ability to take care

[00:43:13] of them right now

[00:43:15] the problem would have been if that had been my last

[00:43:17] gallon of water that she was giving away what then

[00:43:19] right and that's that's

[00:43:21] when you get into length of disaster

[00:43:23] you know length of

[00:43:25] supply chain being turned back on

[00:43:27] because you want to help

[00:43:28] but at the same time

[00:43:31] you can't you don't know how long that's going to

[00:43:33] continue on for so

[00:43:35] um

[00:43:36] yeah that would be that would be like the next

[00:43:39] big ethical question to explore

[00:43:41] there is the time period

[00:43:44] but I know we had one big power

[00:43:47] outage I had just had foot

[00:43:49] surgery was around Christmas

[00:43:51] time and Brock made me

[00:43:53] eggs benedict on the wood

[00:43:55] stove that's a good man

[00:43:57] right I know

[00:44:00] he had like the stools all lined up

[00:44:02] like a counter

[00:44:03] and he pulled it

[00:44:05] off man with hollandaise sauce

[00:44:07] and everything I was just like

[00:44:09] I am so spoiled

[00:44:11] right now

[00:44:13] it was pretty epic so

[00:44:15] I also give you props to that point

[00:44:17] of view of like you know we got to be there

[00:44:19] for our families and we have to support them

[00:44:21] and we have to be there

[00:44:23] to take care of it not

[00:44:25] rely upon somebody else to pick up those

[00:44:27] those shreds we've kind of been beating

[00:44:29] that that horse a lot on the show

[00:44:31] lately I hope everybody's getting the hit

[00:44:33] because um

[00:44:35] it's important right now more than ever

[00:44:37] I have a feeling so

[00:44:39] whether that's you know

[00:44:41] the earth is racing men verse

[00:44:43] race or verse humans

[00:44:45] verse disaster so it's just kind of

[00:44:47] seems like the race

[00:44:49] is on it's just snowballing

[00:44:51] so just be ready

[00:44:53] but I guess my point of view is

[00:44:55] like whether we are heading towards

[00:44:57] a serious systems collapse

[00:44:58] or we're heading towards another

[00:45:01] major weather pattern shift

[00:45:03] like I'm always very pragmatic

[00:45:05] when it comes to preparedness in the guys

[00:45:07] of we're all talking about

[00:45:09] being able to take care of your base needs

[00:45:11] I don't get to pick

[00:45:13] the emergency right all I get

[00:45:15] to pick is how I respond to it

[00:45:17] so I tell people when

[00:45:19] they when they look at a specific

[00:45:21] thing I better get ready for this threat it's like

[00:45:23] okay that's like saying I'm going to prep

[00:45:25] for her can Katrina but the next one in line

[00:45:27] I'm not going to probably not going to worry about it's like no

[00:45:29] there's a line of thought here

[00:45:31] where you are preparing to deal with

[00:45:33] the systems that you depend on collapsing

[00:45:35] you should be prepared

[00:45:37] for that collapse no matter when

[00:45:39] it comes the only good

[00:45:41] thing is that if you start preparing today

[00:45:43] and it's a while

[00:45:45] before anything pops off you're better

[00:45:47] prepared than if you wait to the last second

[00:45:49] and that's probably the biggest key

[00:45:51] to rebuilding after

[00:45:52] is because you were prepared for it

[00:45:55] it's just like going into surgery

[00:45:57] or something you want to make sure your

[00:45:59] body is as strong as it can possibly

[00:46:01] possibly be

[00:46:02] before you go in and have that

[00:46:05] surgery so that you're not too

[00:46:07] weakened by it you can bounce back quickly

[00:46:09] and isn't that the same thing

[00:46:11] with preparing

[00:46:13] for any kind of disaster in that

[00:46:15] if you're prepared ahead of time you can bounce

[00:46:17] back quicker on the

[00:46:19] on the reverse

[00:46:20] I mean definitely but let's throw

[00:46:23] mental and physical resilience into that

[00:46:25] discussion like you

[00:46:27] you and I and Chen and plenty of the listeners

[00:46:29] I'm sure know that like in a disaster

[00:46:31] situation everything is harder

[00:46:33] right everything takes more effort

[00:46:35] when the light switch doesn't cause power

[00:46:37] to come on and when the water stops

[00:46:39] flowing out of the tap everything gets harder

[00:46:41] everything takes more effort more time

[00:46:43] so if your body is

[00:46:45] in better physical condition you are better

[00:46:47] able to weather an emergency situation

[00:46:49] and in the case of like post

[00:46:51] hurricane that was a lot of

[00:46:53] butt kick and work over over three days

[00:46:55] to cut three oak trees

[00:46:57] you know and unwind all that mess

[00:46:59] but it was the

[00:47:01] physical resilience and the mental

[00:47:03] resilience to not

[00:47:05] look at that mess we had in the front

[00:47:07] yard and just give up just quit

[00:47:09] you know just say oh we're never going to fix

[00:47:11] this problem I mean the day after Ida

[00:47:13] before I even knew I had help coming

[00:47:15] I was out there with an accent of pulse off

[00:47:17] because it's what I had

[00:47:19] and the best came with what you got

[00:47:21] yeah well that and the fact that

[00:47:24] I had you know one

[00:47:25] one pretty good sized lamb that was sitting

[00:47:27] on top the garage everything else was

[00:47:29] had glanced off the house

[00:47:31] but I really wanted to get everything off

[00:47:33] the beams of the house so I could assess the house

[00:47:35] make sure it was safe to stay in

[00:47:37] I wanted to clear enough of the brush away from

[00:47:39] my wife's jeep so I can make sure that we had

[00:47:41] two working vehicles if we had to evacuate

[00:47:43] like I had tasks

[00:47:45] to take care of and I

[00:47:47] had you know man up a little

[00:47:49] bit rock up and deal with the problem that I had

[00:47:51] in front of me and not let it

[00:47:53] just defeat me and beat me down I mean

[00:47:55] most anybody's ever read about

[00:47:57] a survival situation like a person that's

[00:47:59] stranded in the wilderness or they're

[00:48:01] stuck there floating out at sea or whatever

[00:48:03] for days on end

[00:48:05] the difference between a person that makes

[00:48:07] it and doesn't make it is very often

[00:48:09] whether or not that person decides to give up

[00:48:11] because if you quit your body

[00:48:13] quits yep and if you fight

[00:48:15] your body is going to fight like

[00:48:17] the third ape on the ramp of the of

[00:48:19] Noah's Ark like you're not gonna

[00:48:20] your body will fight as long as your brain

[00:48:23] does within reason

[00:48:25] so I always tell everybody I'm like you know

[00:48:26] if your mental and your physical resilience

[00:48:29] is up to par if you're

[00:48:30] preparedness and your preps and the materials

[00:48:32] you put back are up to par

[00:48:34] you should get through that emergency

[00:48:36] at a minimum a lot better than you would otherwise

[00:48:38] but if you don't take the time

[00:48:40] ahead of an emergency to put all those things

[00:48:42] in line you're gonna be

[00:48:44] you're gonna be go you're gonna be fighting uphill

[00:48:47] absolutely

[00:48:48] absolutely

[00:48:50] alright well I gotta get into some change in

[00:48:52] earth news you're gonna stick around for it or you want to peace out

[00:48:54] it's totally up to you

[00:48:55] I'll hang out for a bit

[00:48:57] alright

[00:48:58] so everybody if you don't know

[00:49:00] Phil is host of matter of facts

[00:49:03] podcast

[00:49:04] refresh me one more time on the one we just did

[00:49:07] this morning all I can think of is

[00:49:09] it begins with R and I'm just spacing right now

[00:49:11] yep so the other

[00:49:13] podcast is raising values that's the one my wife

[00:49:15] and I started together and I am the co-host

[00:49:18] slash producer on

[00:49:19] that one

[00:49:21] I was like resilience and I was like no

[00:49:23] that's so wrong

[00:49:25] no where is matter

[00:49:27] yeah well matter of facts is really focused around

[00:49:29] preparedness and physical threats to our

[00:49:31] well-being and raising values

[00:49:33] really grew more out of my wife seen like

[00:49:35] trends that were affecting

[00:49:37] families and

[00:49:39] attempts to subvert our children

[00:49:41] and tear apart the family bonds

[00:49:43] and we wanted to address a lot of that

[00:49:45] so we do talk about a lot of like relationship stuff

[00:49:47] we've jokingly called

[00:49:49] our weekly marriage counseling

[00:49:51] it's cool it's a it's cool

[00:49:53] podcast yeah and

[00:49:55] we have different styles

[00:49:57] see me and Brock we can do sparring

[00:49:58] and then you guys do

[00:50:01] alright

[00:50:03] let's go ahead and jump into

[00:50:04] the weather music I'm gonna have to be

[00:50:07] like the micro machine man

[00:50:08] so let's get into it

[00:50:16] alright so changing earth news

[00:50:19] week of the fifth

[00:50:20] to the eleventh

[00:50:21] we had a big solar week

[00:50:24] over the last week

[00:50:25] couple days ago we had an X-class

[00:50:28] flair it came

[00:50:30] off the leading edge of the

[00:50:32] sun so it was just

[00:50:34] a glancing blow as far as the CME

[00:50:36] goes but when they

[00:50:38] go off in front of us they love

[00:50:40] to feed we have this little like

[00:50:42] proton connection line

[00:50:44] to the sun and they the particles

[00:50:46] just love to flow down that line

[00:50:48] and smack us right at the poles

[00:50:50] that happened

[00:50:52] I'll talk more about that but that was a big one

[00:50:54] we actually had a full

[00:50:56] halo event last year or

[00:50:58] last week which would have been like

[00:51:00] if that was aimed at the earth it would have been

[00:51:02] big trouble but luckily

[00:51:04] it went off the other side

[00:51:06] lots of C class flares there was

[00:51:08] actually an M class flair today

[00:51:10] so we have that coming in

[00:51:12] at us that's nothing's gonna be

[00:51:14] scary but you know how

[00:51:16] I love to keep my eyes on it so

[00:51:18] all of that we have coming in

[00:51:20] big news of last week

[00:51:22] is probably the atmospheric

[00:51:24] river just crushing

[00:51:26] Southern California

[00:51:28] they're dealing with a lot

[00:51:31] of water

[00:51:32] 471 mudslides

[00:51:34] millions without power

[00:51:36] and at least seven dead because of the flooding

[00:51:38] that's going on down there

[00:51:40] Sacramento area was also hit

[00:51:42] pretty hard they are

[00:51:44] in catastrophic loss

[00:51:47] it was

[00:51:48] deemed from like the third

[00:51:50] to the seventh it's all cat

[00:51:52] losses so

[00:51:53] prayers to everybody dealing with that

[00:51:55] that has been just one after another

[00:51:57] this year for them so

[00:52:00] alright last week on the fifth

[00:52:02] there was 378 earthquakes

[00:52:04] that were 2.0 or bigger

[00:52:05] biggest of which was a 5.4

[00:52:08] in the rations ridge

[00:52:10] so these are all places

[00:52:12] out on the ocean big earthquakes

[00:52:14] that are like on the Mariana

[00:52:16] trench and stuff like that

[00:52:18] interesting places this week

[00:52:21] so we'll keep our eyes on that

[00:52:22] I've got more to come

[00:52:24] Indonesia Java

[00:52:26] just got hit again tons of rain

[00:52:28] hundreds of homes three foot

[00:52:30] deep flood waters submerging

[00:52:32] those homes so they've had some

[00:52:34] major infrastructure damage to schools

[00:52:36] to hotels

[00:52:37] Ecuador and in

[00:52:39] Abora there was heavy rains

[00:52:42] those streets have turned to rivers

[00:52:43] Japan Tokyo got hit

[00:52:46] with a mega snow storm

[00:52:48] just brought all public transportation

[00:52:50] to a halt put power

[00:52:51] out hundreds of people injured

[00:52:53] there due to that snowfall

[00:52:55] the Yucatán peninsula

[00:52:57] of Mexico was hit really hard

[00:52:59] with the very big low pressure system

[00:53:01] severe flooding and heavy

[00:53:03] winds there and then on the next

[00:53:05] day on the sixth that storm

[00:53:07] moved into Cuba and just smack

[00:53:09] them really good 100 mile an hour

[00:53:12] winds hit Havana

[00:53:14] the ocean swells

[00:53:16] were so high they were bringing

[00:53:17] like jellyfish up into town and stuff

[00:53:20] like that and then

[00:53:21] the temps fell to 50 degrees

[00:53:23] in Cuba which is also very

[00:53:26] very unusual

[00:53:27] so on February 6th there was

[00:53:31] 368 earthquakes

[00:53:32] that were 2.0 or bigger

[00:53:33] biggest of which was a 5.5

[00:53:35] in El Salvador Indonesia

[00:53:37] saw more rain

[00:53:39] torrential flooding

[00:53:40] I mean it wasn't just a flood

[00:53:42] the rivers were literally then going

[00:53:45] through Java that water was

[00:53:46] ripping 56

[00:53:48] hectares of rice fields were lost

[00:53:50] 2,822 homes

[00:53:53] were affected and transportation

[00:53:54] was literally cut off the roadways

[00:53:57] were cut off and

[00:53:58] trains couldn't move anything like that

[00:54:00] in central Brazil

[00:54:03] more so on the west side

[00:54:05] of central Brazil they had a very

[00:54:06] strong storm come through Campo Mar

[00:54:09] power outages

[00:54:11] trees down lots of homes

[00:54:12] damaged over there and then

[00:54:14] absolutely horrific event in the Philippines

[00:54:17] a

[00:54:18] big old landslide

[00:54:21] came down hit this gold mining village

[00:54:23] 15 people were killed

[00:54:25] confirmed dead there's 110

[00:54:26] missing as of the 6th

[00:54:29] 31 people

[00:54:30] confirmed injured

[00:54:32] 3 people seriously out of that

[00:54:34] and there was an 8 year old rescued

[00:54:36] 2 days after the event

[00:54:38] happened so they were holding out hope

[00:54:40] for the other 100

[00:54:42] people that are buried because this

[00:54:44] landslide hit their village

[00:54:46] but they've seen a lot of rain

[00:54:48] there's been a lot of earth movement

[00:54:49] as the days tick by that survival

[00:54:52] rate is going to go down

[00:54:53] there was also an M class flare

[00:54:55] released on the 6th that one was just a

[00:54:58] glancing blow it was coming in off

[00:54:59] of the incoming

[00:55:01] area of the sun

[00:55:03] on the 7th of

[00:55:05] February there was 467

[00:55:07] earthquakes that were 2.0

[00:55:09] or bigger biggest of which was a 5.4

[00:55:12] in the south China sea

[00:55:13] there was another 5.1

[00:55:15] that hit Oklahoma

[00:55:17] there's some home damage property damage

[00:55:19] so that's two

[00:55:21] pretty significant earthquakes

[00:55:23] they were actually calling it a swarm

[00:55:25] which is really concerning

[00:55:27] along that new Madrid fault line

[00:55:29] so we're going to keep our eyes on that

[00:55:30] there was also a 3.0 near mountain

[00:55:33] rainier volcano we have lots of

[00:55:35] volcanoes hitting up on the ring of fire

[00:55:37] so we'll also keep our eye

[00:55:39] on that mountain

[00:55:41] that's the day that the full halo

[00:55:43] ejection happened that was pointed away

[00:55:45] from earth China is getting

[00:55:47] ready for the Chinese new year

[00:55:48] they had all travel halted

[00:55:51] because of severe blizzard conditions

[00:55:53] in China

[00:55:55] Jamaica was hit with

[00:55:57] that low pressure system

[00:55:59] they saw a lot of flooding

[00:56:01] in their coastal areas from it

[00:56:03] and then the Chilean wildfires

[00:56:04] continue raging

[00:56:06] we have about 120 people

[00:56:08] deceased from that wildfire

[00:56:10] about 1600 homes lost

[00:56:13] and just hundreds of people missing

[00:56:15] so really they're not going to know

[00:56:17] the extent of that damage until they start getting

[00:56:18] some of those fires out

[00:56:21] on the 8th of February

[00:56:22] there was 440 earthquakes

[00:56:24] or 2.0 or bigger that's the day

[00:56:26] that the 5.1 hit the central

[00:56:28] mid-Atlantic ridge

[00:56:30] so in the last two years

[00:56:32] that we've been hitting

[00:56:34] the changed earth news really hardcore

[00:56:36] I don't think I've ever seen

[00:56:38] the mid-Atlantic ridge as

[00:56:40] our top earthquake of the day

[00:56:42] in that 5 point slot

[00:56:44] so that's really interesting

[00:56:46] a magnitude 4

[00:56:48] also hit off the Florida coast

[00:56:50] very very

[00:56:52] unusual place to have an earthquake

[00:56:54] and then Nova Scotia

[00:56:56] got hit with a major blizzard

[00:56:58] 5 foot of snow

[00:57:00] piling up completely burying their vehicles there

[00:57:04] on February 9th

[00:57:05] there was 525 earthquakes

[00:57:08] that were 2.0 or bigger

[00:57:09] that's a big number due to the

[00:57:11] sun activity the solar activity

[00:57:12] that was happening

[00:57:14] biggest of which was a 6.2

[00:57:16] in the South Pacific ocean near New Zealand

[00:57:19] that was felt from

[00:57:20] Melbourne, Australia

[00:57:22] all the way to New Zealand

[00:57:23] there was also another 4.4

[00:57:26] in there that day so that was

[00:57:28] rockin' and rollin' and that is the day

[00:57:30] that the X-Class Flare went off just ahead

[00:57:32] of the earth it did cause

[00:57:34] a radio blackout

[00:57:36] in South America and Africa

[00:57:38] they really took the brunt of it

[00:57:40] the Iceland volcanic

[00:57:42] eruption activity is continuing

[00:57:44] this is the third eruption

[00:57:46] more activity near Grindevik

[00:57:48] and also the road to Blue Lagoon

[00:57:51] was completely engulfed

[00:57:54] with lava flows

[00:57:56] so I always laugh about the Blue Lagoon

[00:57:59] because like the movie

[00:58:00] but I guess it's like these hot springs

[00:58:02] that everybody loves to go to

[00:58:04] major tourist attractions

[00:58:06] so they were bummed out about that

[00:58:09] another round of rain

[00:58:10] comes in hits California on the 9th

[00:58:13] and then on the 10th there was

[00:58:14] 501 earthquakes that were 2.0 or bigger

[00:58:17] biggest of which was a 5.8

[00:58:19] in the Philippines

[00:58:19] there was a 4.6 that hit Southern California

[00:58:23] that's one of the things with all the

[00:58:25] rain I'm really worried about their fault lines

[00:58:27] down there they're getting

[00:58:28] very moist which is not normal

[00:58:30] for that area of the country

[00:58:32] there was also a big 5.7

[00:58:34] that hit in Hawaii

[00:58:36] it was felt from Hilo to Kauai

[00:58:39] so eyes on

[00:58:41] that one cause they keep

[00:58:42] that's by the big island

[00:58:44] not Kilauea

[00:58:46] they keep their eyes on Kilauea

[00:58:48] but

[00:58:50] the other big shield volcano that's down there

[00:58:52] anyway I'm drawing a blank

[00:58:55] Central Texas we saw

[00:58:56] flash flooding due to heavy rains

[00:58:58] luckily up here in the north

[00:59:00] it wasn't as bad we're kind of in the sweet spot

[00:59:02] but they did have ping pong

[00:59:04] size hail in Tyler this morning

[00:59:06] so that's

[00:59:08] knocking on the door pretty close

[00:59:10] in British Columbia Canada

[00:59:12] the wildfires have been

[00:59:14] put out because it's been wintertime

[00:59:16] well they are starting to rekindle themselves

[00:59:18] back to life so they get to deal

[00:59:20] with the wildfires in the wintertime as well

[00:59:23] that's going to be just so much fun

[00:59:24] and then in Wisconsin

[00:59:26] they recorded

[00:59:28] the first ever

[00:59:30] February tornado

[00:59:32] in the state of Wisconsin

[00:59:34] in Evansville so

[00:59:36] very unusual weather systems

[00:59:38] happening guys it's cause

[00:59:40] they had just crazy warm

[00:59:42] weather and then you got the cold just smacks

[00:59:44] into it and it turns it into

[00:59:46] tornadoes and things like that

[00:59:49] they also had a tornado touchdown

[00:59:51] in Indiana

[00:59:52] so today

[00:59:55] ironically enough

[00:59:56] there wasn't a whole lot going on today

[00:59:59] and also the earthquake

[01:00:01] resource that I use for my

[01:00:03] earthquake data didn't have any

[01:00:05] like data running

[01:00:07] for today which I've never seen

[01:00:09] before so that was

[01:00:10] really interesting as well

[01:00:13] I don't know why it's not there

[01:00:15] I'll just have to pick it up next week

[01:00:17] so I can't give you the daily number

[01:00:19] for today

[01:00:21] there was that M class flare this

[01:00:23] morning it was completely earth facing

[01:00:25] it's going to be headed right at us

[01:00:27] as far as volcanoes

[01:00:28] there's currently 28 volcanoes

[01:00:31] erupting on planet earth

[01:00:33] that's up one from last week

[01:00:34] most of those are erupting in Indonesia

[01:00:37] they have 8 volcanoes erupting

[01:00:39] in Indonesia right now

[01:00:41] and Indonesia is not that big

[01:00:43] so that is a lot of

[01:00:45] activity taking place down there

[01:00:47] we have 17

[01:00:49] volcanoes showing minor activity

[01:00:51] and we have 31 showing unrest

[01:00:53] those numbers are exactly the same

[01:00:55] from last week so we just added one of the list

[01:00:57] we do have some wildfires

[01:00:59] to report in the United States

[01:01:01] right now we're still at preparedness level of 1

[01:01:03] we have 2 new fires that popped up

[01:01:05] number 2 on the list

[01:01:08] was North Carolina

[01:01:09] they had a 210 acre fire

[01:01:11] it was one fire and it is not

[01:01:14] contained at this time

[01:01:15] and number 1 on the list

[01:01:17] was Oklahoma 429

[01:01:19] acre fire and it is

[01:01:22] contained at this time so we had all that

[01:01:23] earthquake activity there and then we have

[01:01:25] some fire activity that's just kind of

[01:01:28] strange

[01:01:29] so I don't know how that fire started up

[01:01:31] but that'd be interesting to look into

[01:01:34] alright guys so that's our change in earth news for this week

[01:01:39] Suncycle

[01:01:39] that's the name of the week

[01:01:42] is Suncycle it'll be interesting

[01:01:43] to see what happens

[01:01:45] next week as far as our earthquake activity

[01:01:47] and volcanic activity uptick

[01:01:50] on planet earth

[01:01:54] tadaa

[01:01:56] I told you I was going

[01:01:58] micro machines man and I made it

[01:02:01] we have faith in you

[01:02:02] you have right? I can talk quick

[01:02:07] hopefully we don't have any more

[01:02:09] we can have a little

[01:02:11] pause for a little bit

[01:02:12] a little break

[01:02:13] a little room for everybody to breathe

[01:02:16] it's been really

[01:02:18] sucking the UK and all that

[01:02:21] Europe's being slammed

[01:02:23] with storms and you know what's

[01:02:24] happening here with the crazy weather

[01:02:26] so it's definitely worth keeping an eye on these days

[01:02:34] alrighty well Phil

[01:02:36] thank you so much for coming on the show

[01:02:38] and discussing that with everybody

[01:02:40] I knew you were the guy for the job

[01:02:43] we're gonna have to do it again

[01:02:44] shortly because I've got more good ones

[01:02:46] coming up

[01:02:48] anytime you feel like me talking you're off

[01:02:50] just give me a ping and I'm sure I can make myself available

[01:02:52] right

[01:02:54] it's always such an easy night

[01:02:56] I'm like yeah I can sit back and get my barca lounger out

[01:03:00] yeah I mean you know

[01:03:01] get a hand of cage and a big

[01:03:03] tall cup of coffee and he'll pretty much talk

[01:03:05] until you get tired of listening

[01:03:07] right? yeah I love it

[01:03:09] that's why you guys gotta come to Brepper Camp

[01:03:11] get to sit around the fire with us

[01:03:13] just hang out

[01:03:14] I've already got tickets in hand

[01:03:17] arrangements made, reservations done

[01:03:21] yep I come for the Phil show

[01:03:25] yeah and I'm imagining

[01:03:27] we'll probably have

[01:03:28] down there in the vendors area

[01:03:30] we'll probably have PBN Road again

[01:03:34] but this time

[01:03:35] I am gonna have Gillian on hand

[01:03:37] because I was telling her last year

[01:03:39] with me and Andrew

[01:03:41] trying to like record

[01:03:43] four shows a day and freaking talk

[01:03:45] to people that were walking by

[01:03:46] I told her I could have used a third person

[01:03:49] really and truly

[01:03:51] so we're still waiting

[01:03:52] we're still kind of trying to figure out if she wants to try to horn in

[01:03:55] some raising values content while she's there

[01:03:58] or

[01:03:59] let matter of fact kind of

[01:04:01] do the recording and everything and she be there

[01:04:03] to support us? I don't know

[01:04:06] decisions will need to be made

[01:04:09] absolutely no that's one of the nice things

[01:04:11] about having the fam with me

[01:04:14] you know you can walk away

[01:04:16] from the booth and not be like

[01:04:17] oh we need somebody else

[01:04:19] to be watching what's going on

[01:04:20] when I go to teach my classes and stuff like that

[01:04:24] especially in my self defense class

[01:04:26] I need to beat up on Brock

[01:04:28] I mean it

[01:04:29] has to be done so

[01:04:32] yeah it's nice to have the family

[01:04:34] the backup support

[01:04:35] to be able to help out with that

[01:04:40] alright well I'm gonna go ahead and

[01:04:42] split I probably missed a call while we were talking

[01:04:44] so

[01:04:46] I'm gonna go play catch up now

[01:04:47] alright we'll see you later everybody

[01:04:50] can check Phil out while you're in the PBN

[01:04:52] PBN community you know where to find Phil

[01:04:53] on PBN

[01:04:55] but you can definitely find Phil at Matter of Facts

[01:04:57] you wanna drop your website?

[01:04:59] yep www.mofpodcast.com

[01:05:03] or you can search

[01:05:03] Matter of Facts podcast

[01:05:05] pretty much anywhere social media takes you

[01:05:08] perfect

[01:05:09] alright thanks for coming on the show

[01:05:11] appreciate it thank you ma'am

[01:05:13] alright Chinn you ready to wrap up

[01:05:16] I am

[01:05:17] I am it's been a show

[01:05:18] yeah great time

[01:05:20] anybody has any questions of course

[01:05:22] just fire away

[01:05:24] I always love picking your brain

[01:05:26] about the urban experience to the country

[01:05:28] experience because I've been out in the country

[01:05:30] so long I'm like well yeah

[01:05:32] I never really thought about that

[01:05:34] so it's always a good time

[01:05:37] and we got Dave

[01:05:38] coming on the show he doesn't know it

[01:05:40] but he's gonna be

[01:05:43] on the show pretty soon

[01:05:44] I'm gonna go hog time

[01:05:46] and drag him into the studio

[01:05:47] yep yep you know me I'll be out there

[01:05:50] in my cuffs if he doesn't know how to get

[01:05:52] out of them it's not my problem

[01:05:53] he didn't watch my classes

[01:05:57] and I'm gonna hit

[01:05:58] Dane up too get him on

[01:06:00] and so more great folks

[01:06:02] from the Change Earth audio drama

[01:06:05] and yeah

[01:06:07] it's gonna be a fun show next week

[01:06:08] so I'm not

[01:06:11] even releasing topic I'm just gonna hold everybody

[01:06:14] in suspense

[01:06:17] what it's gonna be

[01:06:18] alrighty guys thanks so much

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[01:06:42] alright Chin

[01:06:43] let's get out of here

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