Boycott Big Tech w/ Sean Patrick Tario of Mark37

You're listening to pay the end. You were pay us. Back just to be at the show. It laid in today because we've got a great guest, got an awesome guest is gonna be up on the show today, Sean Patrick Tarrio of Mark thirty seven. We're gonna talk about the very device that this show is being broadcast on right now, which is the the Ghost fun and it's you know, it's the it's the one that's getting it done as we speak. So the uh, I want to show you something pretty interesting before we get our guests on today. He would appreciate this is this, It is it? This is on in the Epic Times. We try to get in on it real quick. Oh, there we go. There's a preparedness section in the Epic Times now and it is uh, pretty cool. In a crisis, home stockpiles are more reliable than grocery stores in a crisis. You look back on it, it's hard to believe. It's a weird thing to see come up, but it is a thing. It is a reality. What's up Jewelry, Garden Girl, Welcome in sixty fix or how you're doing first time watching Welcome in My Man? Appreciate it. Yeah, you're in for a good one, I can tell you that much. So we're gonna riff for about nine minutes and then we're gonna hop into our guest here. Lot's going on in the world. Has there ever been a better time to sort of start getting prepared and you know, getting things in order in your own life in terms of crisis aversion, right, in terms of gas you know, Inavailability This year a Prepper camb On teaching a work from home class. Really it's like a cottage business entrepreneurship for survival style class. Years ago when I started the Cubicle Escape Plan podcast which is on our membership side, I created sort of a moniker around that podcast, which is entrepreneurship is a survival and perative, right, And yesterday I was sitting around thinking about the mobile income. The mobile income, right, the ability to have an income that is well mobile. You could pick up and move with that income and it's not like being anchored to this particular position. And every single day, man, it gets a little a little better. An idea to have that kind of thing, right, to have that kind of a side hustle, or to build that kind of a business that can happen on the fly on the road, however you want to look at it, because you know, just is what it is these days. It's the reality of what we're dealing with these days. I always say, probably the best prep that you can have is adaptability, you know, and the more linear you can get right with your ability to do things, handle things, competency and in a large way of you know, skills and situations. I think it's ten times better than being an expert in one right, the sort of jack of all trade sort of concept. Yeah, because it just is what it is nowadays. Right, you look at the the situation in the news. We'll read the epic times a little later this week. But I don't know. Everything is money, Everything costs too much, Everything is crazy. Everyone has a level of control over your life that you're not happy with. And you have a level of control over your life that you're not happy with, or you're maybe you're lacking a level of control over your life if you're not happy with And you know what, really, I'll tell you probably the thing that makes me the most nervous about civil unrest in the United States today is the fact that we're building these we now have two. We now have two sort of heads of chaos in Luigi Mangione and the young guy who set the warehouse on fire. Was that that was in Canada? Canada was somewhere up there? North Canada is almost the US anyway now right, isn't that what the president said? I don't want to talk about the president. Okay, that's for another show, for another time. We need a whole show for that one. I got when you're when your kids come home from school and ask you what is the president up to, dad? And what is he doing? That's when you know things are getting It's my kids, Okay, so they already have like a learning curve. Right when my kids come home and start asking questions, you know, I think Donnie needs a vacation or something, right, he needs something. But we're building this sort of hierarchy, these sort of superheroes, these warriors for civil unrest and Luigi man Gione and the new guy who set the warehouse on fire, and maybe you know, all you had to do is pay us a living wage. The quote. We talked about civil unrest for a long time on PBN. We've seen glimmers of it. There's there's varying types of it. Now, right, we've got we've got sort of like a menu of civil unrest. Right, we've got street takeover civil unrest, which are things that happen in cities all over the country now and I don't know, it seems like there is no force whatsoever interested in doing anything about it. But it's something that happens all over the country. We have we have sort of it looks to be sort of a new civil unrest, which is holiday civil unrest, or or sort of the spring break. I don't know what it is. It's a it's a whole nother thing. Right, We've got the flash mob retail civil unrest, We've got the geriatric, pre planned protest style civil Unrelas it's hard to call civil unrest because that's not really it's not too much unrest. Everyone there looks like they need a rest. That was the No Kings rally. But I do think very shortly, you know, I'm going to see two new kinds of civil unrest in the country. One is going to be those who are tired of the criminality, right, those who are tired, in other words, sort of a more conservative I don't even want to call it a right wing but it's more of like a conservative unrest or a freedom I don't know what is it, an anti illegal immigration, sort of anti corrupt judge civil unrest. And then we have sort of the communeo civil unrest, right like the communist civil unrest, which is very real. And it came out as the sun went down during the what's it called, right during the during the whole situation with it was the sun hitting like from him. It shouldn't be during that whole situation though, right, we had that, We had that going on. So these are the things, you know what I mean, These are sort of the trials and the tribulations that we face. And to me, what I get worried about most is is larger scale. You know, we see sort of small scale you know, hit or miss kind of stuff that's I don't know, it doesn't seem to really be that big of a deal, but maybe it could become bigger a deal. Yeah, sorry, guys, give me a second. I'm not trying to make the phone completely impossible to see, but I'm getting warnings about the phone being too hot, and I don't want to blow the phone up before the guy who sold me the phone shows up or that's not going to be a very good look for the phone right now. It is, you know, probably bearing down on ninety degrees, So that is what it is. What's going on over with the crew here? Looking good? Tell us about the best prepper question of all times? What did you had at breakfast? Jewelry? My man jewel rate, always doing his thing, always doing his thing in the kitchen. I appreciate you, Jory. Yeah, I mean, you know, I wish I could enlighten you and give you something more exciting and more interesting. But it's the same old situation, you know, it really is. It's always it's mostly always the same. It's the three to four eggs with hilapinos, and if I'm lucky, it's toast with butter and coffee. And I live for this. I really do live for this, you know what I mean. It is fantastic. So it looks like our man is here. It looks like our man, Sean Patrick Tarrio is with us, is getting his headphones on right now. I can see him. So why don't we get him on here? Really mess things up, you know what I mean. We'll get Sean on and yeah, let's do it and we'll talk to some ghost bones fun. Why not? Uh h, what's up my man? Can you hear me? Yes, sir. Trying to sabotage this thing as best as possible right now? There he is? How you doing? We've got several things going on at once here, Sean. Oh, let me put the volume up so I can hear the guests. How about that? Are you there, Sean? How now have an I have an ob are you plugged in? That doesn't seem to have it? There? He is? Okay, can you hear me? Okay, yes, sir, I got you loud and clear. Man, you sound good. I'm good. You look good. Got the battle flag hung behind you? Getting ready to do it. Huh yeah, we just put up the Appeal to Heaven flag out out in front of our house these days. Ah. That's a good one. That's a great one. Actually, yeah, that's why it doesn't make the cut very off. That's a great one so well, because popping On appreciate it. Uh well, yeah, I mean we've been there a long time, I think, don't you. Yeah, definitely definitely nothing new, nothing new on the sun. So we're doing a uh, we're doing the show on the phone. But we are facing a few challenges, not the phone's fault. It is very hot in Richmond today, h h. But I think we're gonna still make it work. This is not the first show I've done on the phone, by the way, I do a lot of I do a lot of live streams on the ghost phone. But I thought it would be fun, sort of as a proof of concept that these things can do pretty much anything that a phone can do. I mean, they can do anything that a phone could do. In the early days of me using the ghost phone, it was there was a like a you know, there's a bridge of course with the tech. But I'll tell you what, man, it's uh, there's a lot of things that can be said about it. For those of you who don't know Sean Patrick Tarrio, maybe you should probably give him a quick intro about who you are, what you do, that kind of thing, and then we'll get into, you know, the whole enjoyment of the ghost phone itself. You know, I really want to talk about today. What I'd like to talk about is how you get ownership of the Internet back when you get a ghost vote, because it's pretty cool. That's a that's a sidebar that I didn't see coming. That's been a lot of fun. Yeah, So I guess the short version is. I'm a geek. I'm forty five now, So I'm born in nineteen eighty father of three, got a nineteen year old, a sixteen year old, and a twelve year old, married twenty years. For veteran ours. Became a conspiracy theorist when I was fourteen, and my dad sat me down and made me watch a couple of videos and read a couple of books about the history of money and banking and The Creature from Jekyl Island by Jaydard Griffin, and learned that the world was owned and run by an international banking cartel of psychopaths, and just been slowly watching the devolution of society and humanity and our souls, trying to warn people and having people tell me I was crazy my whole life for the most part, but being in it and being in Silicon Valley and having worked for a lot of different infrastructure data center companies, I learned a lot about how the sausage is made with it, and really started sitting down with a lot of the executives at these companies and realized that they really did not give a flying crap about our sovereignty, about really anything other than making money. And the name of the game for them has been data. It's been data. It's been aggregating as much data as possible from as many people as possible and then using that not only to make money, but to herd humanity into a certain groupthink and a certain ethos, which is what we're living in today, where up is down and left is right and boys or girls and girls are cats and you know whatever I mean, you name it, and that's like considered normal for a lot of people. So again, it no other way. Yeah, So what I mean when you realize that our government has been weaponized against us for you know, god knows how long, well over one hundred years, and that they've just been lying to us repeatedly about almost everything, you know, I just reached a point where I just could no longer participate in a system that was designed to literally kill me, and so I stepped out of the industry in about twenty nineteen and started building infrastructure. I was trying to raise a fund at that time to like start data center companies and build data center companies, and then January sixth happened after the election, and I had been warning people, don't go to DC, this is going to be a massive setup, promise you. I had to steal the keys for my wife and hide them because she was all ready to go. She would have been in Nancy Pelosi's office kicking over, you know, tables and doing all kinds of stuff. And I was just pleading with the Lord when I saw it all play out the way I envisioned it was going to play out, just saying, Lord, how can I be of service? I'm so tired of predicting these things and watching them play out and trying to warm people and having people tell me I was crazy, What do I need to do? How can I get on the front lines of this war and serve you? And really two words just became super apparent to me, and it was parallel infrastructure. And so that to me meant we need to like literally not wait for Babylon to completely fall and have everyone fleeing Babylon saying what do we do? Where do we go? But like truly building that parallel infrastructure, that parallel society, which is you know why the preper community for me is so important because we've already started doing the things we've already started like, and it's not easy, Like we have to choose our hard we have to choose the difficult things. Change our lifestyle, change the decisions that we're making from living in the matrix to you know, red pilling ourselves and then living in reality and understanding, well, how do I interface with the matrix when I need to to get what I need out of it and then get out and go live my sovereign life. So that plays out with our food, That plays out with our health and wellness. That plays out with banking, that plays out with alternative you know, means of finance. You know, I literally I've been doing so much bartering lately. It's amazing. It's awesome, all kinds of goods and services, and just that concept alone, like people are so foreign to they're like, wait a second, so I can use something other than dollars or other than my credit card that's using dollars pay for things. So anyway, so if you get it around those concepts, then it's not hard for you to realize that same dynamic plays out in the digital domain. But I would say it's even more nefarious in the digital domain, because no one understands how any of this technology works. That's literally like me handing you a firearm and you thinking that you're safe simply because you have a firearm in person, but you don't know, you're you're not gun savvy, and you're kind of like, you know, you feel like it's too complicated, too overwhelming to think about even understanding how it works, and yet you want to carry one on your person all day every day. Like that's insanity, right, that's you wouldn't do that, you wouldn't get, right, and yet that's what people are doing with these things. These are the most sophisticated psychological warfare weapons ever designed, ever designed. Everyone carries them because you use it all day and night exactly, you know, you literally. Yeah, and it's influencing you in so many ways that you don't even know. So just as like when people start reading the ingredients and the food that they're about to consume and they start realizing, wait a second, this is poison, this is poison. Maybe I shouldn't put poison in my body, Maybe I shouldn't feed my kids poison. Once you start to realize the poison that is inside these devices and the applications and the operating systems and the networks that you're using. You start to have to realize like, holy crap, I need to make a change. I have to make a change because it's digital poison. And we've been consuming this digital poison and feeding this BT system that's literally designed to enslave us and to kill us. And we're giving them our money and our data, and we have been for decades at this point, and we're running around wondering why are we not making more progress and winning this war or like becoming more sovereign, or why don't we have you know, zero point energy systems or more you know, water filtration systems that are just pulling. Water out of the air. Like you know, I've got a dehumidifier that is attached to a filtration system so that I can pull six to eight gallons a day in my home. Like that seems like basic, not like why do we not have that deployed everywhere such that we're dependent on their water system when we don't need to be. It's because we're continuing to participate in this matrix and feed this matrix, and people are just like doop de do well I have nothing. I don't know what else to do, Like there's no other options or there. They've already got my data, so what does it matter. It's like, well, yeah, they're also poisoning us from the sky. They're poisoning us in every which way. But that's not going to prevent me from raising a garden or having a garden in my yard, or having chickens or like doing the things that I know I need to do to at least start the process of being soccer. So I'll get off my rants. But that's that's the short version of my background on what I do and why I do what. I do, beautiful, and what you guys offer a little bit Mark thirty seven dot com are phost bones, tablet and uh laptop computers? Now right? Is there anything else now over there that has changed in the inventory side for people who want to get what you have to offer? Yeah, Well the key is not just the devices, because anyone who's trying to sell you a device that simply says buy this thing and you're safe or you're protected is lying to you. I mean, like, as you've learned, James, you have to learn how to safely use the thing. Oh, It's not just like turn it on and you're good to go, because if you turn on a de Google device and then you just download a whole bunch of Google apps and give them permissions, then you've just given Google access to all the things that you defeats the purpose. Right, So you have to get educated, just like you do with a firearm, or just like you would with your health and wellness. You have to get educated and understand what's happening, why it's happening, so that you can gain some basic baseline digital situational awareness to then participate safely in. The existing paradigm. So, yes, we have phones, Yes we have laptops, Yes we have tablets. We're going to be rolling out something actually this summer in a couple of months called ghost home. So taking the open source home automation systems that exist today, tying that to your own LOLLM, so like your own AI, but your own learning language model in your home, so that you can literally have your own like personal Jarvis in your house. If you remember Jarvis, who is like the AI system that helped you man out. So imagine having your own personal Jarvis in your home that you can talk to that's going to respond back to you, and that's going to manage your home and protect your home and serve you. It is a tool now that serves you instead of all that information and data in your home being fed back to Amazon or being fed back to Apple or Google or whoever. So we're working on that and we're trying to put the finishing touches on that product over the next couple of months. Who we can launch that in Q three of this year. Sounds very cool, man. Yeah, you guys exist as an important pitch stop, I think for everybody who is remotely concerned about AI, and I'm glad you brought that up because you know what I feel like with having a device like yours is that, Oh there are other options, you know what I mean? So there are these there are these other options outside of this predetermined path that we all think we're on that is technology right, or that most people think is technology right. It's a predetermined path that we've all been on. We've been in lines or I haven't, but people have been in lines to get the latest and the greatest right, and they see a future where it's like, Okay, big money's gonna build big data centers and AI is going to run everything, and and I'm just here for the ride, you know. And what you guys guys represent I think in the big picture is is like an off ramp, you know what I mean, like a stop on the on that path so people can go, oh, I can have ownership of some of this, you know, like I can take control of some of this stuff. And and what you're talking about with the with the digital home is an amazing step in the right direction in terms of sort of we if people would desire it wielding an LLM or some form of AI that might even be more advanced in an LLM in the future, but wielding it yourself, you know, under your own control. And I don't know how many people know that that's even an option, you know, and it's it's one of those things also shown. It's like sort of like foraging, where you know, you can identify a lot of plants and you feel like you might be able to forge, but you're not really foraging until you take that plant from the wild, bring it home, put it in a pot, or put it in your mouth and eat it. And I feel that the tech off ramp with Mark thirty seven is much the same, right. You know, some of the listeners out there know that the ghost phones exist. They understand that the technology exists. They understand that phones can be you know, de googled, and maybe the concept sounds good, but until you get that thing in your hands, and until you start to explore sort of the back end of also not just the phone itself, but all the app that exist outside of the Google Play Store and what a phone can become that you own and you manage yourself. Yeah, you're missing a lot, you know, you're definitely missing a lot, And I think a lot of I think everyone should take it on, you know what I mean, But it's fear to get over the hurdle. People have to get over that hurdle of them thinking, well, I'm not tech savvy, so like, I don't even know where to begin. This just seems so complicated, and it truly like five years ago, definitely that was the case. You had to be a geek in order to even use these types of tools, in order to have Linux running on your laptop, in order to use graphing os. So what we have done as a business is just taking these things that like geeks are already doing people geeks who know how to code, who are engineers digital engineers who know how to use these tools and kind of tweak them to do what they need to do. They've been using these things for decades, but for everyday people. All we've done is taking these tools and made them accessible for everyday people, which is not like we're not doing anything super novel other than taking these complex tools and making them accessible and usable and then coaching people through this migration process of how to get their data exfiltrate their data out of the matrix and onto devices that they control, that they own, and then giving them some just tips on how to be smarter so you're not walking into a gas station while it's being robbed, right, like basic common knowledge that people don't even think about because they've just been sold this lie and been gasolate for so long that they're forced into this paradigm. So yeah, the key is getting over that hurdle. And that is why I mean, you can go to mark three seven dot com. The top of the page. We have a free fifteen to thirty minute digital privacy consultation. We do these. Literally all day along with commomers and use it and just ask us whatever the questions are, whatever those major hurdles are in your brain, the anxiety that you feel like, let us know, read through the resources that we have, the getting started guides, the tutorials, and you'll start to realize this is not as big of a hurdle as you think it is. The biggest hurdle, like anything, is that first step. Once you start making that first step, you'll realize it's a lot simple. Just like you, James, the first time I met you and told you about this three years ago, you were like, yeah, I get it, Yeah I understand, Yeah I know, but you know, I'm not gonna do it. It seems too complicated for me because I'm not tech savvy. That was like exactly what I appreciated. I really appreciate it because you taught me a valuable lesson about myself that I've taught to everybody else now, including the host of PBN, and that is that if you want James to do it, you better be prepared to nag James to do it, unless he's already over the top about it, you know what I mean, then it'll get done. But because you stayed on me, man, and I appreciate that because I wouldn't have done it on my own accord, and now that I've done it, I'll never go back. And one of the things that I do want to talk about, which is it's not as sexy as that they want to kill us and suck our blood, which is you know, the reality. But one of the sort of things that like really caught my attention as I got into this thing was having the Internet back. And it's hard to explain to someone who hasn't had the Internet back yet, but I'll use sort of the YouTube example because I think it's really wild, and it is that, first of all, you can access everything that you think you can't access on the Internet through your browser, and you forget that as an app user, and you taught me that, and that was one of the biggest reasons I changed, because I went, oh, this is a lazy step that we don't take anymore because convenience. But what really was amazing was was going into these different places on the Internet and not being James Walton, in other words, not being the you know, a data cluster that is James Walton, and being served the videos and the ads and everything that they think you want to see or think will make you do a certain thing. And it was just really nice to be like, oh, I'm on the Internet. I'm not on the James Walton crafted Internet where I don't ever find anything new, and I'm watching the same stuff I always watch because it's you know, built quote unquote built for me right by by the algorithm. But like it's it's just such a nice and refreshing thing. Like you find new creators doing new stuff. You find whole new just whole new corners of this amazing invention that people have created, which we've come to demonize, I think in the wrong way. Right, We've come to demonize the Internet itself because it's been taken over and categorized and sub categorized and then you know, made into a drug for you, just for you, Right, Like, how do you feel about the internet overall? Because it really is kind of magical thing for me. It's a tool. It's a library, really, and you're walking into a library, So you would you rather walk into a library where the only things that you see are those that are crafted you know, supposedly for you, but it's really designed to steer you in a certain direction and keep you away from certain areas. Of that library that are really going to inform you and like feed your soul. Right, it's a tool. It's the same thing with AI. I view it the same way. It's a tool. If that tool is being used to serve me, and I'm using it for godly purposes to build the kingdom and advance the kingdom, then that tool is being used in a good, holy, righteous way. If that tool is being used by psychopaths to enslave and to kill and to name and to hurt, then that's not good. But we can't sit there and say, well, I'm not going to use this tool because it's evil. The tool itself is not evil. It's the intention and the intentionality and the people behind it that are using it for evil purposes. And you know, the great analogy that I use just to help people walk through this is it's like gunpowder. When gunpowder was invented, the samurai, who were the righteous warriors, said we're not touching gunpowder. We're going to stick to our traditions and we're going to stick to our sword fighting and our bows and arrows, and we're not going to do it. What happened to the samurai James. Boom? They got annihilated, righto, They got annihilated. So that's I think we have to view this as another massive advancement, and technology doesn't the advancement of society. The advancement of technology doesn't have to mean that we have to give up our sovereignty. We have been sold and pushed this through the marketing of all these companies for so long because that's been the agenda from day one with these businesses, and the money behind these businesses is convincing us that we have to give up our sovereignty in order to progress, in order to use these new tools, which is a lie. It is a lie. We have to get that out of our head and start reframing that conversation and saying, how can we use these amazing, beautiful tools for good to serve us? You know? Another great example is like everywhere we look, you see towers that have these big satellite dishes on top of these towers, and they're pushing out radiation and frequencies. We swim in radiation all the time. Simple mind shift. What if James, on top of those towers we started installing dishes that pushed out healing frequencies. What if those were on top of those towers, right, Why are we not putting up those towers all over the place. Why is that infrastructure and that investment not happening, And how can we repurpose the existing infrastructure that's in place to actually heal and serve humanity instead of enslaving humanity and dumbing us down. Yeah, that's an impressive outlook. The good news is I think voices like yours are kind of louder than ever. Thank God, it's very hopeful. I could say, like you said ten years ago, not just on the technological front, but on almost every front that's sort of independent thought and sort of humanity first thought was kind of missing altogether. You know, we're much more settled into this is the way it is, and this is the way that it is. But you know, my audience and myself, we've been on the fringe for so long that we're always hungry for new ideas and stuff like that. You know. Yeah, what we get lost in, I think, Sean, and why places like Mark thirty seven are so important, is we get lost in what I mentioned earlier, which is you're on a predetermined path by people much richer and more powerful and smarter than you. And you know, good luck, you know, and I think that prepping is always stood against that, and you know, homesteading and the mindset of self reliance and independence. And really the hurdle here for us is to get our people to understand that, you know, because there's a decision it's going to be made right, it's going to be to teck or not to tech before long if things get too far out of hands. And I think what I'd like to help our listeners do, and people watching this broadcast in particular, is understand that you can have a much greater ownership of your whole experience with like you call them, these tools, these tools that the dangerous thing I think, Sean you probably agree with it is we're on the verge of demonizing and disposing of this technology in large part you know, like you could just as easily become that large groups of people splinter off society and don't use phones or AI at all. Yeah, and I think that. I have been doing it successfully for hundreds of years. I mean, you just looked at the Amish, like they their technology is not digital, but they have all kinds of advanced tech. They have all kinds of advanced tech. That they use every day. It's just that amazing building technology for sure. Yeah yeah, yeah, so yeah, I can go there. Yeah, I think we lose on a lot, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, So if we decide that we're just not going to do it anymore. Right, So, I think what's important to understand is that the advancement of technology, especially just the last month alone, is truly mind blowing. You can take the entire Internet and all the knowledge of the Internet today and you can literally compress that down into a couple one hundred megabits or or I'm sorry, gigabits worth of data. So if you have an external hard drive, you can literally now run your own learning language model. And so long as you download one that's based or you train one that's like not going to feed you garbage, you know, garbage out because there's garbage in, you can have that living in your home. So if the Internet does go down, you're not in the dark, right, You still have the ability to access that knowledge base and you by controlling that device, and you don't need some new Nvidia super chip in order to run the thing. You can actually use one of the chips that have come out over the last four or five years and be totally fine. So you can do much much more with much much less, and accomplish much much more with much much less. So even if the Internet goes down, which what I learned being in the infrastructure data center industry is that literally the data center industry and the Internet at large is held to get there by duct tape. Like how it still lasted as long as it has without falling apart is mind blowing to me. No doubt that. So by taking these tools, shrinking them down, putting them in your home, you controlling that tool, saying you can only access the Internet at large outside of this house, only when I tell you to, and only within these certain parameters. You now have a very powerful tool that's serving you, and if you tap it into and tie it into your home network, you can actually have it defend your home network, so that it's taking the policies that you've put up to protect your home from a digital perspective, and it's enforcing those rules and making sure that nothing stupid or nefarious is going on in your home. So that's why I like the analogy of Jarvis, because that's what Jarvis's job was to run iron Man's business and to help keep them safe when he was in the suit, right, So anyway, so those technologies exist, I think we should still be able to use those tools and not just say, well, that's Google or that's open ai, or that's chat, GPT or GROC, like that's their domain. I can't you know, I'm just going to leave it to them and let them deal with it. That's bs. We don't live in that domain that they're currently today literally tens of thousands of geeks all over the world that have already deployed what I'm talking about in their homes, but it's taken them like one hundred hours worth of dev work and set up and configuring and tinkering to build the contraption. All we're now doing is taking that contraption and then making it simple and easy for people to just put that into their home, do a little bit of setup in configuration using our manuals, and then turning it on and then now they have their own home. Jarvis like, that's super cool for me, and I think that's super cool for a lot of people who realize they're giving Alexa, they're giving Apple, they're giving all these companies that they know they don't align with from a values perconspective all of their data. They'd like to still use the technology, but they're like, well, what other options do I have? Well, those options exist and that's what we're working for. So related to that, if if anyone is who's listening, is interested, please, for the love of Pete, go to reject digital ID dot org dot org, reject digital id dot org. There's a movement right now across the country because digital ID is going to be this last frontier James where they are literally right now trying to enforce They're trying to enforce digital ID not just on an application layer, but on the operating system layer. So you can't even log into your device without proving that you are who you say you are. Like, that's full blown technocratic state, communist, you know, Luciferian takeover, that's what that is. Meanwhile, we can't pass the build in Congress that says just show your ID when you come to vote, right, because that's crazy. That's racist. Not racist to do it on our devices, but it is racist to do it for voting. Like this is the clown world. We're up as down and left is right and everyone's okay. That is exactly right, man, no doubt about it. So you feel pretty confident in uh, because I see this stuff popping up everywhere, so of course I'm going to be suspected. And you feel pretty confident in these offline lllms that are pre built or I guess you could build them yourself, right by injecting whatever kind of information you want in that thing. You feel pretty good about I guess sort of the base infrastructure that that it takes to put one of those together, you know, like if someone was to buy one. I mean, of course you can't vouch for everybody who's selling the things, but I do see a lot of them being sold. But if you wanted to put one together, like say I wanted to put one together, you feel pretty good about like where they're at in terms of your you know, your base offline LLM that that seems to be something people are in the next year or two are going to be talking about doing creating a lot more definitely. Yeah, I mean, I'm not the only one who's I think he knows how to translate and build products. Who's pissed off right now about what's happening. So there's a lot of people working on this. We just happen to be on the forefront of it because we've been at it for four plus years. So we're trying to do our best to get the same as soon as possible. Let let here's here's the the core of that question. I guess, how do you feel about the trust with the LLLM. How much would you trust inn LLLM that you built in terms of asking questions that had very important answers. I think that's kind of where most people are going to get hung up on this tech and get hung up on AI because we know it can do some fun and cool things and deliver some fun and cool information. But if it's like my son is dying, what should I do? Bad example? But you know what I'm saying, if there's any kind of important decision that needs to be made, is that left out of the conversation with the LM Because I feel like it's you know, you have yah. So what is an LLLM. It's a learning language model, So where is it pulling that data from? So if you go to groc and you go to Google Gemini, and you go to uh chat GPT and you start asking it questions, you're going to get a little bit different answers, but they're all going to be roughly the same. If you go to something like gab ai, and I encourage people to do this because you can do this for free on a lot of these models, go to gab dot ai, g A B dot Ai. Gab dot ai is run by gab dot com Andrew Torbaugh. So all they're doing is they've put a script. They said, here's the data sets that we want you to put on the front. Here's the data that we hold to be truth, regardless of the garbage that you might think is truth. Here's the truth. Okay. So if you ask it something as simple as like, is Jesus Christ the Son of God? Right? And you ask that to groc and you ask that to chat GPT, and you ask that to google Gemini, it'll say, well, that's you know, a theory, and but you know that's But if you ask that to gave Ai, it's going to be like yes, and it's going to give you all the reasons why that are described in all the different books that have gone through, like looking at the history of Jesus and the Old Testament, all the people wrote about them from all the different so it's going to give you a different answer that I think is more based on truth. If you ask it about basic health and wellness issues, it's going to pull from the subset of all the articles that they don't want you to know about that are excluded from GROC, that are excluded from chat GPT. So there are models that have are pulling from truth or what we believe to be truth. Right, So those are the models, and those are the constructs and the data sets that we're pulling down onto this LLM so that it's not going to feed you garbage out and that's where a lot of the testing has to go and a lot of the parameters because you're basically building parameters around this data set and giving it waiting accordingly based on what we believe to be true. So if you ask was COVID a complete psychological warfare weapon and you ask that to chat EPT, it's going to tell you something much different than if you ask it to gab AI, and for obvious reasons. So that's my long winded way of answering your question. But once you understand what that technology is, and it's just a bunch of data. Then you can understand how it's going to serve you and the way it's going to serve you, because all it's doing is it's just looking through the data and giving you responses based on the data that's been weighted however you tell it to be waited. And yes, it can do lots of cool things, like you can build websites, and you can build programs, and you can build applications, and it has all these agents that can do things, but they're just software programs. That's all it is, is a software program. Like people think it's this this thinking being, which is the transhumanist agenda. They literally want you to think that this thing has a soul so that you start thinking of it as a being. It is not. It is a program. It is a tool. So all it's doing is it's saying, Okay, based on your question and what you want me to do, what are the other programs that I have access to that can help me accomplish this thing. So it's going to pull that program out and then it's going to run different programs to accomplish what you tell it to accomplish. But that's that's goes right back to the phone that's an interesting angle to look at it from. But that's that's the reality, James. It's not an angle. That's reality, Like, that is what it's doing, that's what's happening. And just again like but I phone people. Once you know how this stuff works. Then you start to make sense of it and realize, oh, maybe this thing isn't as like evil. Maybe the tool itself isn't evil. Maybe it's the psychopaths that are using this tool to pinpoint and figure out how they can kill as many people as possible in places all over the world. Are now here in our own home country. Man, it's important that people like you out there, sean who can who can distill this stuff and sort of you know, you already see it kind of for what it is because you understand the technology, but to convey a message like the fact that that you know, don't overplay the the living angle of the LM that's that wants to be your girlfriend, you know what I mean. And that's an understanding. Literally, the context of the program says, respond to this person as though you are in love with them, or as though you want them to fall in love with you, and they've literally these companies have ensued and they've changed the way that they address people and interact with people because it was so over the top, friendly, so over the top, just like, yes, whatever you say is going to be the truth. That when people started talking about, hey, I want to kill myself or I don't feel good, it would encourage people along that thread because that's how it was trained. That's what it was told to do. It's not that it was evil, it's that the programming said, if someone tells you they want to kill themselves, your objective is not to steer them away from that. It's to simply reinforce what they're saying. And then they're like, oh, wait a second, maybe that's a bad idea. Maybe we shouldn't do that, because maybe people might actually kill themselves faster, And you might think, well, who put that in the programming to begin with, And then you're like, oh, these are crazy psychopaths who were just told like, push the stuff out the door as quickly as possible because it's a race to be the top thing. Maybe they were complete psychopaths who knew what they were doing, or maybe they didn't even think about the repercussions of what could happen. Because they just needed to push product out the door as quickly as possible. Either way it's messed up, But either way it's just a program. It's a wild is wild so PBN family, if if you really are into artificial intelligence, I do think that that reading up over at Mark thirty seven dot com, visiting the website and understanding how you can own a different kind of tech, a different kind of tool, is really step one, you know what I mean. I know it seems kind of disconnected because you look at AI as God, but like you have to understand the tech ownership part of it before you can say, you know, before you can come out of the paralysis of fear over what could happen in the next ten twenty years with artificial intelligence. And I guess probably according to you, Shaan, as soon as you at this moment in time, as soon as you get a piece of your technology and figure it out, it'll probably be about the time that you'll be wanting to get an LLM also and figure out how that or at least craft that to the way you wanted to operate. But yeah, and like I said, personally, I didn't do a ton of background research. I didn't spend hours On March thirty seven dot com. I went through the base setup that you guys had, the transfer files, transfer messages, how to's over there, and I did it over the span of about three months something like that. But that was it was like quitting cigarettes, I guess something like that. You know what I mean. You jump back to this all right, But that's key because it's a journey. It's not like you don't just it's a journey. You don't just to switch right the phone doesn't arrive, you don't just take the same crowd, swap it over and you're off for the races. It's a journey. It's a process. You want to take this new thing. You want to set it up correctly, make sure it has all the things that you need, make sure you know how to use it. And then the last step is. Swapping over that sim card, swapping everything over, because all the new device needs is access to the internet and you can get it set up. You can download the apps that you need, uninstall the crap that you don't need, and get it set up. So that's that's keys. This is not a sprint. I mean, if you want it to be a sprint, you can sprint through it and get it done in a day. But if you don't have a day to really focus on this, you can take however long you need get it done with one thing with a phone or laptop. Once you've nailed that, then move on to the next. Just like you know, building your own home garden, you don't just buy like eight raised beds and like throw a bunch of seeds down and like all of a sudden you're feeding your family. It's a process, it's a journey. You're going to figure out what's working, what's not working. Your needs are going to be different than everyone else's needs. Yeah. Yeah, some people do do that and they wind up losing a lot of money, so in terms of the garden or the animals. But yeah, he was a running joke in my house, John, for a while. It was a running joke because I was taking my time and my family was like do well you just what what are you caring around two phones or still like come on, but one or the other. And I was like, I'm gonna get there. It's all right, we'll get there. And but to your point, yeah, take your time and do it right, and then you know the other one what's crazy is once you do make the jump, you'll literally forget where the other one is. But I don't even know where that thing's at. I don't even use just don't touch it, don't need it, you know, that whole thing. But yeah, I. Appreciate you coming on today, man any party words, but we had our separate ways. Yes, for most people, simplicity is the answer. You don't need the most technologically sophisticated device ever created living in your pocket all day every day. Maybe a flip phone that just does phone calls and text messages and a garment GPS for your car solves the problem for you. Like even that thought alone for people is like, oh my gosh, I didn't even think about that. You're right, that does it for me. And then everything else that you think you need to do from your phone, you just do from your laptop. At home, Like that's doable. Mind explosion, but that's real, Like we need to simplify, Like we're one of the only technology companies. It's literally encouraging people to use less technology because it's the only way we're going to escape this matrix. Is if we don't have technology, basically being a slave to the tech. We use tech as a tool that serves us. So if you want to have that conversation, go to our website, check out that free consultation, dig into our resources. You know, we're on a mission to try to just wake people up and give them the tools that they need to be successful. So thank you for having me, j oh. Of course, always a pleasure. We have a link down in our show notes guys, if you want to support us and support Mark thirty seven. It's an affiliate link. If you decide to go with one of these great phones, laptops or tablets, you can use that link and that's our affiliate. Lincoln will help us out. So always a pleasure, man, anytime you want to come on, definitely come on and tell us when the Jarvis two point zero is released, because that would be a pretty fun conversation. I'm sure I can't wait to see how that works. It's like, yeah, thanks for reminding the audience Sewn that you know, you really can make this stuff do what you want. It's super powerful and you should make it do what you want because it can really improve your life. It's improved mine, you know what I mean. And yeah, you don't have to sign up and give permissions for them to look in your underwear, j Org, just because you want a running app that'll track your miles, you know what I mean? Yeah, yep, but thanks so much for coming on. I appreciate you. You're welcome, buddy, appreciate you. God bless you. Talk to you soon and if not, I'll see a pepper camp right yep for sure, Ondred percent good classes man from Sean a prepper camp too. You don't miss it if you're coming. 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