Christian Nationalism was More Dangerous Then we Thought

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This is gonna be fun. Christian nationalism is more dangerous than we thought. What a show title, Chris. You know, one of the things we are pretty good about on the show is those show titles like clickbait. We got some pretty good clickbait worthy stuff. Right, I think we do all right? Yeah, there seems to. Be a science to it that I haven't quite mastered. But I got to tell a story, Chris, You're gonna like this. We now have a social media manager on Church and State, which is very, very helpful because I cannot live on social media. But she's been incredibly helpful. I was in a meeting with her, and she's young, she's like in her early twenties, and she says to me, I don't want to be offensive. She didn't know who she was talking to, apparently, but she says, I don't want to be offensive, but you are older. So do you Are you familiar with the term rage bait? And I said, yes, yes, I am actually familiar with the term rage bait. And she goes, you're really good at it. I love it. Apparently I'm very good at rage baiting. All right, So with that, let's talk about something a little bit more local to me in the Spokane area or maybe specifically Washington. Although fans of church and state are going to know I love to hate on Washington State. I do. I love to hate on Washington State. Anyway, My state senator, actually, Senator Leonard Christian, receives backlash after using a slur during State Senate floor session. What did you do? All right, We've got a Washington State Senator from Spokane Valley facing backlash after using a slur for developmentally disabled people while debating a state program. Senator Leonard Christian used a slur for disabled people while arguing against House Bill thirteen ninety. And this is what he says, and I quote the folks that we're responsible for we're putting rapists in with retarded people. Oh man, he said, the retarded word. You can't do that, right. We still have elements of cancel culture, even though there are people are saying that the word is back, that we can actually say the word retard now. And honestly, just from a medical standpoint, I've told you before a former EMT mentally retarded used to be the word how we describe these individuals, and it fell out of favor. Okay, And you can weigh in either way. Is it more appropriate, is it more humane? I suppose to call them developmentally disabled? Okay, you can make that argument for sure, But I have a little insight on this, Okay. The House Bill thirteen ninety proposes ending the Community Protection Program that provides services for people with developmental disabilities who also have a history of violent behavior. So basically, what they're doing they want to throw them all into the same facilities. Okay, So you can have developmentally disabled people who have predatory behaviors, people who even though they are mentally deranged a little bit, they're preying on individuals and can engage in sexual molestation or rape and things like that. And we're throwing them in with people who unfortunately are getting molested. And Leonard Christian is right about this, he should we should oppose something like this. We should be protecting people who potentially are vulnerable here. And I don't even like Leonard Christian. I gotta tell you, as somebody who's been in politics locally here for a long time, I how do I word this properly? Christian? I really really really dislike Leonard Christian. Is that acceptable to say? Can I say that? I really don't think so. Actually, really, you're supposed to love Leonard and dislike his policy. No, I don't like the man. I don't like him as an individual. I know him personally and I don't like him. And that's okay for me to say. But here's the thing. I'm going to be consistent. I stand behind Leonard Christian, stand behind I stand alongside Leonard Christian on this issue, even though I don't like the man. I think that's important. It's a really important distinction for us. We don't necessarily have to like the individual. If they're right, they're right, okay. And I do want to caution individuals who, oh, just because maybe maybe you're a Democrat and you're listening to this show, and you're like, I don't like Leonard Christian because he's a Republican. Okay, stop it enough. I don't like it for personal reasons, Okay, But is he right about this? He is? He is right about this. We should not be housing individuals who are developmentally disabled, Okay, who are and a lot of times very childlike, and then we're going to house them with somebody who's a predator. Wrong. We should want to protect people, no matter if you can view them as a criminal or not. We still want to protect those individuals. Okay. So you can love him, you can hate him, you can dislike him. But he's right about this, and we should let the power in Olympia know that we're posed to this House Bill thirteen ninety, among others, so many, so many other bad bills coming out of Washington State. All right, with that, let's move over. I think I've spent enough time on that one. But I want to talk about something I actually heard on the news today, and boy did it make me chuckle, made me laugh. It wasn't the Mario day, Chris. Apparently apparently today with March tenth. If you just do mar and ten, you get Mario and so it's a Mario day. Do Do Do Do Do Do Doo. That was a great video game. It was a great video game. Come on, all time classic. Can you imagine pitching that. You go to Nintendo, You're like, we got this new idea for a video game. Okay, we got two Italian plumbers with big, big mustaches. And what they do is they're going to fight against this like dragon dinosaur to rescue this princess that we named Peach because we couldn't come up with a better name. And they smashed bricks and they eat magic mushrooms that make them grow, and the Nintendo's like, this is brilliant. And the dragon has an army of turtles. Turtles, Yeah, you can stomp on and throw at people. Uh, somebody was on some drugs. Drugs were involved here, Chris is obviously the conclusion here. Drugs were involved, but the world ate it up. Okay, that's a weird one. It's definitely a weird one. Anyway, I'm listening to their news and a commercial comes on for canceling solar contracts. Chris, I knew this was going to be a thing. I knew this was going to happen. Did you know? You? Did you know? Are you psychic? No? Not a profit either. But I knew this was going to happen because what did we see? All right? We saw under specific administrations a massive push for soul or and everybody. You could just go back in time, liadies and gentlemen, you go back. You're building a house, or maybe you're remodeling the house, and what did they pitched to you? Put some solar panels on the roof. This is gonna be great for us, all right. Not only are you gonna be generating power, but you're gonna generate so much power that you can actually sell it back to the power companies. You'll be paying nothing and you can sell it back. You'll actually make money off the fact that you're gonna install all these solar panels onto your house. And the public was like eat it up. And then you got the administrations of Obama and Biden. What were they doing. They were taking taxpayer dollars, my money, your money, and of course offering these fantastic rebates if you were going to make your home a green energy star home, which is kind of makes me angry. I didn't want to live in a green home. You like green homes, Chris, I don't like green homes. I probably would go with like brown or blue or. I'm not talking about the pink color. You're not the pink color, No, not at all. I'm talking about all these little gimmicks and gadgets that they come out with to make your your home. They reduce all the power you got. The low flow shower heads. Have you ever been in a low flow shower, Chris. Flow shower? Yeah. Yeah, it's like a drizzle on you. You gotta like come all in, get real real close to the shower head. The tiles cold, You're like touching it. You're like ah, and then the water's just drizzling on you, and you're like, this is miserable. It's the worst. They want showers so powerful they might take off the skin. That's what I like. Okay, So yeah, I totally against all of this green stuff. But then the technology just wasn't there, was it. It's like all the rebates you were getting for getting an electric car, and suddenly people were stuck for hours trying to charge their cars, and a little trip that they were gonna go visit Grandma across the strait and now they're stuck in a city halfway across the state and they're like, well, we got a charge for six hours, have fun. This is gonna be great, right. The technology wasn't there, and so now we're seeing the commercials come out. If you've been a victim, I love these. You too can get out of your solar contract. Why is this an issue? Well, I looked into it. Okay. Main reasons why individuals are trying to get out of their solar contracts. Okay, Solar leases are finance contracts complicating home sales. Who new that's right? When you jump on board and suddenly it's forty thousand dollars or something to install these solar panels into your house and guess what the amount of energy you're selling back to the power company. It's not all that much money. They never want to talk about the details. But the devil is, of course in those details. Yeah, you're getting a few bucks here or there, not really paying off that forty thousand dollars investment into the solar panels. And then you want to sell the house and a potential buyer's coming in there and they're going, you know, the market ain't what it used to be. The interest rates are kind of high. Your house. We were already gonna lowball you a little bit because we're right at the upper level of what we can afford. But you also have these solar panels, and there's a contract associated with the house. So now I got to take out even more money to pay off those solar panels. I no longer want your house, or let's go and negotiate. Perhaps you have to continue to pay off those solar panels. So it's disrupting the housing market. Interesting things. So of course people are gonna want to get out of those solar contracts, diminishing savings due to escalating payments or other factors. Leases frequently include annual rate increases. It's rate interest rate increases for the loan you took out to put in that green movement energy, the solar energy panels. Suddenly the price is increasing. Oh man, they never told you that, did they? Misleading or predatory sales practices. I've already discussed that. You've seen it coming. You knew, well, you didn't know you were sold a good our bill of sales. You didn't see it, but especially the individuals that were all about it. You were driving around in your super were out back, and you felt really good about yourself because you also had solar panels on your house. Turns out it wasn't all it was cracked up to be poor system performance. Oh that's right. These things don't actually work all that well, do they. No, In fact, they don't work very well at all. And in fact, if you look at the landfills all across really the world, you're going to see a lot of these solar and wind powered contraptions that are littering the garbage floors. So good job on that one. It all leads to this, It all leads to now, companies, the free market has entered into its shocker trying to save it. But the free market has entered into it, and now there's literally a market for individuals who are trying to get out of their solar panels. And I, for one, I'm thrilled, I'm happy. I'm applauding it. Chris to me, or is it just that I saw the trends that were coming our direction and I knew it was only a matter of time. Yeah, yeah, okay, kudos to me. Applause myself, Pat myself on the back. Don't worry I'll see something else coming into the future that I will be talking about soon. And once again, remember not a prophet, because I don't think they exist anymore. All right, with that, let's move on to something else. And it's kind of the rest of the stories. The rest of what I'm going to be talking about really kind of move with the direction of the show titles Christian nationals Ism more dangerous than we thought. I have a video from an individual who's really really becolm quite the cats now, as it were. He seems to be everywhere, everybody's interviewing him. His name is Professor Jiang. I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly. But he has a video here where he explains a different perspective from something that we've been told pretty much in all of our Christian walks. What does he have to say, Well, let's go ahead and hear it. Go ahead, Chris, And so. They keep on the flight, even though they've lost the warriors Romans. They will go into the Ribban Desert where they will. Incubate a new religion called. Islam, and they will prophesize the coming of Messiah. Will not to be Mohammed. Right, So, at this point in history, the Jews must leave Jualislem because the Roman's basically kicked them out, and their religion will splinter into many different factions. And as we discussed, what happened is those Jews are most menaical. They will escape into the Ribban desert and they will incubate Islam and eventually Islam. Will conquer the world. And at this point they feel as though they've achieved the messating Age and they have returned to the to Juerusalem. Now, the Jews believe that in the mess Age the means I will come lead in the victory, bring all the juice back to Jualusalem and build the Third Temple, and us You're in the messian Age, okay, And that's what they believe happen. And so this is the i'lastic moss in Jerusalem, and this is meant to be the Third Temple over tom what will happen is what they would change it to become a center of Islamic worship. From the beginning, it was really the third Temple. That is an interesting take, that is not one that I've actually ever heard before. And for those of you who may struggle with accents, look, I'm not throwing stones. I am the same way. My wife knows this about me. If somebody starts speaking in an accent, I just look at her like, what did they say, Chris? Do you are you with me on that? I understood every word? Oh did you? Never mind? Chris is better than I am me. It could be the years of shooting guns, my time in the Marine Corps, playing in punk rock bands. My hearing ain't so good now. My kids tease me about this all the time. What or my wife loves to do this to me, Chris. She'll start a conversation and then she'll turn her back on me and walk away as she's still speaking, Oh, yeah, that's great, isn't that great? I'm like, what this? This is how I get dragged into things I have no idea about. She'll be like, I told you, I told you this. I'll be like, I don't remember that. ATel. I think she's figured me out. She's doing it intentionally anyway. Professor Jang says Islam was created by Jews. He says Jews invented Islam after they expelled from Jerusalem by the Romans and fled into Arabia. He says Muhammad was actually the Jewish Messiah, and he says that the moss, the dumb of the rock is actually the Jewish Third Temple. That is absolutely fascinating me. I don't necessarily know if I completely agree with him, but it's a take that I had never heard before, and because of that, I wanted to bring it to my audience. What say you on this? Could it be? I mean, certainly, we look at this biblically, right, we have Abraham, and you know the two seeds of Abraham, and they go two very different directions. Anybody who knows the Bible knows this, and within one we have the basically what becomes the creation of Islam, and the other obviously is the continuation of the Jewish seed. And so yes, we can see that they are directly tied by anybody who reads the Bible. But then we have the Romans who expel the Jews, and then the rise of Islam. And if the Jews actually created Islam, and they're the ones that are constantly pushing this rebuilding of the Third Temple and certainly have fooled the dispensational lists as I've covered on previous shows, to the employ ordance of this, could the Dome of the Rock actually be the Third Temple. With the discussions that are currently happening right now, we've had within the dispensational crowds, everybody believes there's got to be some type of cataclysmic event for the Dome of the Rock. Maybe an arrant missile from the Iranians comes and actually accidentally hits the Dome of the Rock and it blows it up, and then the Jews can start rebuilding the Third Temple. We have individuals who say, well, the location is actually the wrong spot, So if you move a little bit to the east or the west, or whatever direction it is, you could actually build the Third Temple right next to the Dome of the Rock. You have all of these different theologians and people who study eschatology who have promoted these different ideas. But what if the Dome of the Rock is actually the Third Temple. That's mind blowing. That could radically transform the discussions that we're currently having in Christian and Jewish circles. Like I said, I don't know if I necessarily agree with what he's saying, but it's certainly an interesting take. With that, Let's move over to something else and once again I find myself in the position where I have to reiterate something it I really don't want to because I'm tired of it. But man, you guys good, I tell you. As of late, I don't even know if you saw this Chris, the Owen Schroyer show that we did. This guy came on onto X and he wrote something. It was like, it was massive, just calling Owen and I liberals and just he had a lot of other choice words that I will not repeat, but he just went off on us. We're paid by the government and we're liberals. I'm like, well, wait a minute. This administration isn't liberal, so we're getting paid by the government. I'm having a hard time. Wait a minute, you're getting paid by the government and you're not sharing that with me. I know what a jerk I am, aren't. I I'm very offended. Man. You should be right. I'm getting all this government cash. It's just it's ludicrous. It truly is. But this is the risk that you take with putting yourself out before the public, right, they're going to attack you. And once again, every single time I bring up anything regarding the Jewish question, what happens? You know, what's going to happen. And I've told you before I'm neither a Zionist or an anti Semite. Okay, I am neither of those things. But it won't matter that I say that, because somebody else is going to come on here and accuse me of something. Doesn't matter what, but they're gonna accuse me. But anyway, I wanted to show you this because this is directly from Newsmacs. Okay, this isn't some fringe out there. You know. News Mac is kind of they kind of put themselves up. Is like an alternative mainstream news. Would you say that's fair, Chris, Newsmax has kind of hit that point. That seems to be what they're going for. Yes, I mean you had Fox News and people started to realize Fox News was compromised, and so you had competition enter into it. Newsmax seems to have won. There's a lot of people on here, they're watching it. This is their report. Let's go ahead and hear it, Chris. Conservative Christian leaders are calling on Prime Minister Benjamin net and Yahoo to stop a bill proposed by members of his coalition to make it criminal to tell people about Jesus in Israel? Are just some correspondent Daniel Cohen is live near Tel Aviv with morgand Morning. Danielle, Good Morning, Alison, Good morning everyone, A big story just before Day's before Paul's, Sunday, Good Friday, and Easter sacred time for Christians. Two ultra orthodox members of Prime Minister Netyahuo's coalition have introduced a bill that would punish believers for sharing the Gospel of Jesus with prison time. United Torah Judaism Kanesset members Mosha Gaffney and Yakov Asher introduced legislation last week making it illegal to share in conversation or produce content online, in print, or by mail. Their explanation of the bill emphasizes a warning to stop Christians, in particular the punishment one year in prison or two years for sharing with someone under the age of eighteen. Joe Rosenberg is the host of The Rosenberg Report and editor in chief of All Israel News. He's also a Jewish follower of Jesus. Obviously, Jewish people don't agree with Christians, even Jockoals or others, about who Jesus is right. We all know that there's a theological difference, but evangelical Christians and other Christians have been so supportive of Israel and the Jewish people, so to silence, to muzzle and gag even Israelis like myself and others, to say you can't talk to another person about your faith and why you believe it. That is terrible, That is not freedom. Although he doesn't agree theologically, net and Yahoo has always been a strong friend of evangelicals speaking at meetings and believing freedom of speech and freedom for Israel's small Christom community should be protected. Now, should this bill gain traction, it could spark a serious clash with the sixty million evangelicals in the United States and six one hundred million around the world. Goffney first introduced a ban on evangelism in nineteen ninety nine. It went nowhere. United Torah Judaism is in a stronger negotiating position now though, since Netanyahu needs to keep the party in his coalition or it could threaten Netanyahu's ability to remain in power. Allison, thanks to you, Daniel Collin, thanks you so much. Right there, ladies and gentlemen, straight up, coming from Newsmax. All right, we have that video which is like I said, it's not fringe, it's not coming from some fringe conspiracy theory network. There is a law that's been introduced into Jerusalem politics to make it illegal for myself, you other followers of Christ to go and to discuss our faith with the juice. Now I'm not done yet. This is Caleb Collier with Church and State Dot Media. Laes and gentlemen, if you're not sleeping on my pillow, do you even patriots? I gotta tell you this is the most wonderful stuff from a man who's given it all for your freedoms. Whether it be the pillow, the sheets, or the slippers. I absolutely adore my pillow. My pillow has the greatest products around. 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You were like sweat coffee, Chris, had it ever come out of your pores? No, I wouldn't allow that. It's like body, you suck that right back. The man drinks a lot of coffee and he likes Hunter's Blend. I like Hunter's Blend as well. But I was supposed that Chris would be our resident coffee snob. Is it because it's vegetarian? No, it's just good. Have you ever had bacon flavored coffee? That sounds horrible? It's actually not very good, but I have tried it. Look, if you like coffee as much as Chris does, then you're gonna want to check out Hunter's Blend coffee. All right, we've partnered with these guys. They have some great blends. Obviously for me, the darker the better. Chris is one hundred percent in agreement with that. We don't want any of those light roasts. What have you even doing with that? Stop it all right? But they got some great stuff in here. They are Christian, they are conservative, so they're really aligned with us here at Church and State. Check them out. 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All right with that, Let's go back to the conversation at hand, and we're talking about potentially spreading the Gospel in Israel could be made illegal with a fine of a year or even two years if you do it to somebody that's underage. What a crime, indeed, what persecution of our Christian faith coming out of supposedly our greatest ally. It's an odd situation. Now, I don't think this is going to actually pass. But Benjamin and Yaho, I will say I disagree with this. On Newsmax, he says, they say he has been a great friend of the evangelical community in America. I would say he's been more of a user of the evangelical community in America. Would you say that's fair, Chris or am I getting am I risking getting called another name here? Does kind of seem like he's taken some advantage there? Yeah, I would say that for sure. But obviously Benjamin and yah who is he is and a stute politician, whether you like him or not, and he understands that having the support of the evangelical community in America is beneficial to his country. And so if something like this were to pass, as the report said, it could cause some friction, all right, could cause things to blow up. Potentially. Perhaps they chose the worst words there, but I think you get the point obviously. So I don't think this is going to pass. But it's still interesting to note that there are certain people in the nation of Israel who really don't want us spreading the good news. And lastly, the big one, the big one that I really wanted to vote a lot of time in, and I want to offer an apology to it's Christian nationalism. Now all of you are probably familiar with what Christian nationalism is. Certainly it's been the talk of a lot of individuals, whether you're a pro or a post Certainly we saw what the Joe Biden administration and all these talking heads talking about the threat of Christian nationalism or all a bunch of domestic terrorists. And then on the other end you had people like Marjorie Taylor Green who were saying, I'm a proud Christian nationalist and I will even throw myself under the bus here. When people started first having this common I was actually with Gabe Still Chris, were you here for that. When Christian nationalism first came to the forefront of American politics, you were okay, So you remember the conversations we had Gabe, yet we had me, and we were defending it, and we were really breaking the two words apart. Right, I am a Christian and I also love my country. I am a Christian nationalist. I remember distinctly uttering those words, and even on the show, as we do the introduction, what do I say, hello Christian patriots, which could certainly be I don't know, misconstrued for Christian nationalism as well, similar wording I suppose you could say, but I didn't understand it, And for that I apologize, and I'm wrong. I was wrong. I was definitely wrong about this because this is actually a danger. This is actually a threat, and I want to ta some time to devote to the last part of the show into discussing why I believe it is actually dangerous. Now. Look, I am a Christian one hundred percent. Now I will never apologize for my faith, not just faith, my knowledge the wisdom that Christ has imparted on me to call me one of his elect to reveal the truth to me so that I too may enter into Heaven through the blood and the grace of Jesus Christ. I don't take that lightly. It's essential to who Caleb Callier is. And I am a patriot because I do love this country and I've served it on multiple occasions in multiple ways, and I will continue to serve America because I still see such great hope for this country and I still love the republic that it was originally built upon. But Christian nationalism is a whole different being. You see, Christian nationalism proclaims that we are a Christian nation, and I would say that that is true in that our founding fathers were all, for the vast majority of them war in fact Christians, but they established laws to protect individuals being able to worship God as they saw fit. There was no establishment of a national religion. There was no establishment that we are Anglican or we are a Lutheran, or we are Catholic. No, you could come over to this nation and worship as a Quaker, as a Puritan, however you saw fit. And we even allowed for people like the Jews to exist in the United States and to worship the God their God. I mean, it's the same God with the absence of Jesus Christ. All right, it's the God of the Old Testament. They were able to worry. Why you shaking your head at me. I'm not involved in this. You're shaking your. Head at me. It is the same god, Chris, It's just the God of the Old Testament. They just don't acknowledge that Jesus Christ as his son, that he died for our sins, allegedly allegedly, but we allowed for that. Our founding fathers understood a very important thing. You cannot force somebody into conversion. Church has tried it. We had the Inquisition, We had people that were tortured until they proclaimed their faith. Do you think that actually worked. Do you think that when they died that they were immediately a Christian? I don't think so. Let's put it on the other foot, Communism, which is in fact a religion. And if we look at the Soviet Union, what did they do. They mandated the worship of the state. God was dead, The state had all of the salts and answers as and was in fact your salvation. And they stomped upon the church. There was a massive amounts of persecution, and what occurred the church actually grew more people needed faith. They needed faith that there was something better in the afterlife beyond this communist wall of oppression. You see, the state in the Soviet Union tried to mandate that you worshiped the state, and it didn't work. The same principle applies for Christianity. You cannot mandate this upon someone. You cannot force them to convert. You cannot force Christianity because it's a heart issue, and no amount of oppression is ever going to force somebody into believing. And that's a real risk for this rise in Christian nationalism. And we've seen now the White House with their Faith Counsel, which is rather ridiculous, isn't it led by Paula White, who is an absolute heretic in my book, an individual who's literally a money pimp for the church. We have individuals like what was her name, Chris Carrie, Oh Carrie, I can't remember her name, but she was pushed out of the White House Faith Counsel. Why but because she had questions about what Israel was doing to the Palestinians. So she was pushed out of that. Because we need to all think in one confined little bubble. This is accepted Christianity and that is not flying in the face of what the Founding Follows gave us in this one, this great Republic, you are this type of a Christian and if you fall outside of this bubble whatsoever, then you are not of the faith. It's the dispensationalism. You have to believe specific things about the Abrahamic promise. If you are part of Covenant theology, then you are outside of that. If you don't believe in the modern prophets and apostles, then you are outside of the accepted Christian norm accepted Christian nationalism. And now, and perhaps even worse, we have the justification of wars. When I covered this and everybody's been talking about it, that our military is literally telling our soldiers, our airmen, our marines, are sailors, that they are part of a holy war that Trump was appointed to bring about armageddon. This is un checked Christian nationalism, and it's wrong. It is dead wrong. And certainly there are some ties to the New Apostolic Reformation, to the prosperity Gospel in the Word of Faith. I'm gonna tell you right now, we as Christians, we need to identify this, and then we need to take action to write it, and that's what I'm doing here. Number one. I am coming to you with my heart in my hand, offering my most sincere apologies that not only did I not see it, but that I was a part of it, that I promoted it, that I was apologist for it. I apologize for that, and I'm trying to correct it right now on this episode, trying to correct it. And now I need more and more Christians to come to this conclusion. The Christian nationalism. It sounded right, and I get it a do, especially with what we experienced with Obama, with Biden. We saw attacks coming from our own government towards our Christian faith, and so we decided to take action, and we fell in with some bad characters who had their own agenda. We can make strange bedfellows, and we started to win. And when he. Feels good, but we didn't see, we didn't see the misconceptions, the alternative views, the elements of it that are decidedly un Christian. And now we're excusing and we don't want to admit we're wrong. I know it's I know it's hard to admit you're wrong, but I just did it for a national audience. So we can, we can admit we're wrong, and we still can identify as Christians, and we can still say that we love the United States of America. But I would caution you not ever calling yourself or identifying yourself as a Christian nationalist, because it means two entirely different things. And if we're going to use Christianity to enforce morality coming through the government side of things, then we really have become a theocracy, and a theocracy is not something that is conducive to a free people. Freedom is important, it's essential to us as Americans. And tyranny can come it can come from Islam, it can come from Communism, and it could also come from Christianity, and we want no part of that. I'm going to continue to preach the message of the Good News, but I will never earn force that using a government institution. I will never advocate for that, because what I want is people to come through Christ, not because of fear, no, because the Holy Spirit spoke directly to their heart. Church and State is brought to you in part by Colonial Life, Spokane, Independent Agents, Finders Insurance, and Mark three to seven dot Com. I'm Caleb Callier. I was born for a storm. Welcome to the fire. 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