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Spokane Valley could become a sanctuary city of a different kind. Councilman Caleb Collier says that this proposal... I'm proposing that the city of Spokane Valley issue a proclamation stating that our city is a Second Amendment sanctuary. Welcome to the fire. Welcome to the fire. Today on the Caleb Collier Show, don't tread on me unless it's the GOP. Hello, Christian Patriots, and welcome to the Caleb Collier Show of Church and State Media, where we drive morality and religion over tolerance and apathy. And I'm your host, Caleb Collier, once again, your favorite far-right shock jock, and the show that talks about politics and religion. Jesus Christ is our referee, so it's always nice and clean. Let's go to the website, churchandstate.media. Fill out the form for us, ladies and gentlemen. You want to get our newsletter. I got a lot of responses on our last newsletter, Chris. It was really exciting. Nice. Yeah, a bunch of people asking questions and excited about the new direction. 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Lastly, if you want to get ahold of us church and state 1776 at proton.me with that, let's get into the show. Um, I did promise to say this. Uh, I just said that during the, uh, the ask for financial contributions, I got a buddy, great guy. Uh, he's actually my, my son's hockey coach, which just makes him even cooler. Right. But, uh, He has four boys. Chris, you got to pray for the wife right there. Four boys. A lot of boys. And three of them play hockey. Three of them are playing hockey, right? And they're really good. Really good. But he just texted me the other day and he's like, we're having another baby. I'm like, whoa. And he's, you know, I tend to, I have a lot of friends that are like upper 30s. I'm in my upper 40s, but There seems to have a lot of people around me that are like a decade younger than me, probably because I'm so immature. It's got to be it. That checks out. Yeah, that definitely checks out. But in his upper 30s, having a brand new baby. And of course, I'm going to ask the audience to pray that he has a girl like he needs a girl. His wife needs a girl. It seems like it's about time. It is, right? She needs a little princess, a little buddy. And he needs a princess because every guy should have a daughter. Boy, they check you. You're like, you're all tough and everything. You're like a rough house with the boys. I'm going to get you. And then the daughter's like, let's have tea together. Suddenly you're in a feather boa with a tiara on your head. What just happened? Yeah. Yeah. Coach, that's coming your direction. That is coming your direction. I want pictures. I want to see you wearing a tiara. It's going to look amazing. Obviously, what we do, we really pray for is that the pregnancy will go well, that a healthy baby is born. But we're also going to include for a little girl. All right. With that, don't tread on me unless it's the GOP. What a great title. A great title for today's program. And we are recording this on November 3rd. It is election day for all of America. We've all gone to the polls. We got our ballots in. But I was having a conversation. And let me back up for a second. There is a whole movement on X right now in regards to Dan Bongino. Have you been following this at all, Chris? The hell? dan bongino block party um no i have not oh it's fascinating it's fun okay dan bongino has incredibly thin skin he does he is a baby and i would say that to his face i don't care like what are you gonna do like punch me okay uh i don't think he would why because he's terrified terrified of getting sued but he blocks everybody. You come in there, you say anything and you get blocked. And so all these people that have been blocked have decided to do a Dan Bongino block party. They're actually getting together and having a party. The, the admission cost is to prove that you've been blocked by Dan Bongino. I love it. I absolutely love it. You know, I was like, you know, I should go see if I can get blocked on Dan Bongino. And so He had some post about how Trump is still the president and all this is going our way. The economy is great, all this stuff. And I was just like, all right, but can we talk about endless wars and the Epstein list? And he didn't address me, but some people came in there, right? And one individual who had as a picture, his social media picture was the famous Gadsden flag. Don't tread on me. And he's trying to argue with me. He's trying to argue with me about the Epstein list. It's not even a starter. Like, what? Okay. Endless wars. We're not even in an endless war. The war in Iran already ended. Did it now? What's going on over there right now? We're going to talk about that in a little bit here. We're actually planning on nuking them on November 4th. Well, not nuking them. We're planning on bombing them, right? November 4th. So, Isn't that still a war, technically? Right? So I'm looking at this, and my response to the guy was, don't tread on me unless it's the GOP. And look at where we're at, guys. Look, everybody's talking about the election, and I know this is going to come out post-election. And I'll talk about some of my predictions in a minute here. But if the GOP loses, and it looks like they will, I mean, you know a great resource right now is the election betting. Do you ever follow any of these, Chris? Yes. Oh, yeah. Like the polymarket or whatever. Yeah, they gamble on our elections. Why not? Sports teams are not enough. Like, hey, why bet on the horses when you can bet on the donkey or the elephant? It's great. And you know what they're all doing? You know what all the odds are? They're all in favor of the Democrats. And it looks like you're going to lose Texas. Telerico is probably going to win here. This is wild. Texas. Well, that's what you get, Texas. You've been apathetic. You thought it was all perfect. You thought it was good. We're in Texas. You don't mess with Texas. Well, they are. They are. And hopefully it's a wake-up call for individuals who love liberty. And I'm not saying a wake-up call to vote Republican. No, I'm saying wake-up call for those who love liberty because that's really what we need. But think about this mentality. And Chris has got the perfect image. This is probably going to be the thumbnail. Think about the mentality of this. The famous Gadsden flag, don't tread on me, right next to the thin blue line flag. And I've seen this on the road. You ever seen this, Chris, where somebody, you know how people like to, in their big four-wheel drive trucks, and they put the flags on it, right? Of course. Have you ever seen a truck driving down the road with a Gadsden flag and a thin blue line right next to each other? Probably. I don't recall. I've seen it so many times and perhaps I'm looking for it because it always leaves me scratching my head. I'm vexed by this, this mentality. Like, look, I'm friends with a number of cops and I like those guys and I'm not attacking the police department as a whole here. But the mentality of don't tread on me, but support the cops no matter what. No, absolutely not. The don't tread on me is a symbol of liberty, right? That, look, I don't want to be bothered. For any of you who have ever been hiking, and I grew up in California, you know this about me, and we had rattlesnakes all over the place, okay? And what's the purpose of their tail? It was a warning. When you hear that rattle, you stop moving. You absolutely stop moving, and you look around, and you try to find the snake. And then you slowly ease away from the snake. Because the snake isn't looking to attack you. No, it's sounding an alarm. Don't come over here. I bite. And you're not going to like that bite. And that's what we were supposed to be as Americans. Don't come over here. Don't step on me. I bite. We used to be dangerous like that. But not so more. I mean, the new Gadsden flag should be redesigned. It should have the snake rolled over, showing its soft underbelly. Come on over here. Put the boot right on me, please. I like it. That's where we've gone. That's where we've gotten to. And sure, when the Democrats are in power, when you had Joe Biden or Barack Obama, that snake turned over. We started with the tail again. We started sounding the alarm. You're not going to take our guns. You're not going to have men in women's bathrooms or women's sports. But when we get a Republican in office, when we got Donald Trump in here, what do we do? We start making excuses. Excuses for things that were promised to us. And you got all these talking heads. I was just listening to Mark Levin. Talking about the Republicans, they're voting light. It's not looking good for us. He's got that, I can't do it. I know. I'm sorry, Chris. I'm sorry. But the comments that Donald Trump has done, everything that he said he was going to do. And yeah, the deep state's getting in his way. I thought he ran on demolishing the deep state. We got a lot of campaign promises. But what do we got? Another war. We're still at war in Ukraine, too. We got the economy in absolute shambles. And I'm so tired of the people saying, well, yeah, that short-term pain, long-term gain, we got to do this. The boogeyman of Iran. We can't have a nuclear Iran. You know, they actually just found an addition. Chris, I don't know if you know this. I don't know if you saw this story. It was a fragment. Of the Old Testament. Oh, really? Yeah, they translated it. And in it, it said, Iran is 30 days away from a nuclear weapon. Yeah. Did they carbon date that? Yeah, carbon dated. Absolutely. It's 100% accurate. I mean, how many times are we going to fall for this type of narrative? And you can remove Iran and replace Iraq or Syria or Afghanistan or Libya or all these other countries that we continually go to war against. Why Iran? Because of the boogeyman. Because of that boogeyman. It's upon us, ladies and gentlemen. It's right around the corner. We've got to strike first. And everybody still continues to fall for that kind of stuff. Why? Why? Who is hammering? Do you hear hammering? I do. I was just pondering that. Yeah, we've got. Somebody's building something in the room next to the studio. This is fun. All right. We'll just make the best of it, I guess. Look, ladies and gentlemen, I know a lot of you that watch this program are Republican. And I'm sorry to beat up on you. Okay? I am. But I just, I love liberty too much to sacrifice any of it for a party. For a beautiful party. No. I'm not beholden. I don't have allegiance. Sometimes I can be aligned. But if the Republican Party is wrong about something, guess what? You call it out. If Donald Trump is wrong about something, you call it out. And you know what? I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the Republican Party is going to probably lose. Unless the thing that I've been floating about cheating occurs. Unless Donald Trump and his administration has taken over the election fraud and there's a gigantic red wave. that does not seem to make sense with the amount of voters that are turning out, the Republican Party is going to lose this election. And call it November 3rd at 11.04 Pacific Standard Time. Wait, no, it's daylight time now. PDT. Yeah, that's right. We just hit that. Pacific Daylight Time. You're going to lose. You're going to lose. You'll win a few elections. And obviously, I'm not even talking about locally. I'm talking about the federal. I'm talking about the state's. But you're going to lose. You're going to lose because the voters are angry. Because the economy is messed up. Because all these campaign promises didn't occur. You look like you want to say something. Are you upset with me? Well, I mean, I'm no prophet. I think you might be just drinking a little Kool-Aid on that. Blue Kool-Aid? You think I'm drinking the blue Kool-Aid? I think you are, yeah. I guess we'll see. I mean. we could talk about it tomorrow. Literally, Chris, I think I'm right. And if not, then yeah, I think the fraud occurred. And honestly, like, here's the other thing, Chris, if I'm being, if I'm being totally open about where I'm at politically with the, the current state of the two parties that run this country into the ground, I kind of like it when there's opposing forces. Like, I like it when government doesn't get much done. I like it when government shuts down. Oh, yeah, that's good. That is good. I like the shutdowns. Yeah, so if this is what it takes, then fine. Have Democrats in control of one house. Have the Republicans in control of the other. Like, turn that... And here's the thing. It's all a uniparty anyway, so it's all rhetoric. The things that they want to pass get passed regardless. Regardless. But as far as hassling me, the individual, if you got two forces colliding, cool. Good. I hope it does. Because I'm so tired of being harassed. Harassed by R's and D's that make a lot of campaign promises. And the reality is, every single year, literally every single day, the Republic goes further and further away from the Constitution. That's what I get upset about. But if the elections aren't enough to get you in a bit of a tizzy, perhaps going to war against Iran the very next day will get you excited. This report is coming from the New American Magazine. Report attack on Iran set for November 4th. Iran threatens region-wide retaliation. Joe Kent says get out now. Gotta agree with Joe Ken on this one. I really do. Going back to what I was talking about, you know, this boogeyman that is Iran, and the American people have been fooled, and we're doing things on behest of foreign nations to take out a country that really was no threat to us. I'm going to go ahead and throw it out there. And look, before you say, that I don't have an understanding of what the threat Islam is. Islam is a threat. It is a threat. Okay, I've said it before on the show, and I'll say it again. It's not only a threat, but it's a false religion. It's a false prophet, a false god. And I want no part of Islam within the American Republic. But I don't think they're as big of a threat as some of the actual threats we face. If you examine Islam, which is literally a wind-up toy, versus these globalist elitists, versus, honestly, Zionism, I mean, what's the bigger threat, ladies and gentlemen? Consider this. You have Islam who chants, death to America, right? We're the great Satan. That's pretty in your face, isn't it? That's pretty abrasive. That's a threat. Yeah, when they say death to America, sure, that's a threat. But is it a greater threat when an insidious group systematically takes over every institution within America? I think that's a bigger threat. One of the great lines is to find out who rules over you. Find out who you're not allowed to criticize. Can we criticize Islam? I'm doing it right now. Maybe during Biden, yeah, it was a little bit more of a hand slap. But who are you not allowed to criticize? That's the question for all of you. Who can you not criticize? Who gets you banned? Who, if you ever step out of line, who is ostracized? Who are you told to hate? Think of people like Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Megyn Kelly, MTG, Thomas Massey. You were told to hate them. Why? When you ask somebody legitimately, why do you dislike Tucker Carlson? What can they say? They don't really know. It's like those old people on the street. What do you hate about Donald Trump? Orange man bad. You have no reason why you dislike these people. And hey, most of them are CIA. I don't even like them. I don't trust them. But you don't know why. because they criticized who they weren't allowed to criticize. And now we're going to go and drop bombs on Iran again. Again. And right after the midterms. Of course. You know why? Because it wasn't popular. Because they were concerned about the elections and the American people who've had it up to here with foreign entanglements. So literally the day after, Like, hey, we're not doing Iran. We don't even need to talk about Iran. Hey, schedule for right after the election so that we can bomb them again. And here we go. And once again, this episode is going to come out after the fact. But here we go. We're going to go blow up Iran again. Why? Because we can't allow them to have nuclear weapons. And they weren't even close. Last I looked, the uranium enrichment was like at 60%. They need like 90-something percent. And even then, they won't have a bomb. But here we go. Boogeyman. Go attack. You got all the usual players. They're meeting Pete Hegseth, Secretary of War, coming at us. And the lone naysayer here is Joe Kent. Who says it accurately. It's such a great way of putting things. We tend to look at it and say, we're the big dog. We are the big dog at the table. And what we say goes. And so we can just bomb whoever we want. But Joe Kent reminds us all. They will respond. They will respond. Think about the bully in the schoolyard. Eventually, he pushes that little kid in the glasses too far. He's given him too many wedgies, too many swirlies. He's stolen his lunch or lunch money too many times. And eventually, the kid has it up to here, and he reaches his boiling point. And what does he do? He punches that bully straight in the face, and then the rest of the school gets to realize, we don't have to take it anymore. We can unite. We can stand up to him. Sometimes that bully has a glass jaw and he goes down. That's America, unfortunately. We've become a bully. A bully to the other nations. I don't want it. I want peace. I want prosperity. I want to be able to spread the Christian gospel to the people of Iran. Why? Because I don't want people to go to hell. Even if they live halfway across the world. Even if they have a different belief system than me. I want to be able to share the message of Jesus Christ with them. Because every single one of us is a sinner saved by grace. And those people that you view as your enemy, wouldn't it be so much greater if they could gain access to heaven through the belief in Christ? I think that's what we're called to do as Christians. This is not going to end well, ladies and gentlemen. This will not end well for America. We go over there and we bomb them again. What's going to happen? Iran is going to start bombing our allies, our military bases over there. They're going to hit targets that don't have strategic military value but can damage us through our economy. Gas prices will go up again. The Strait of Hormuz will be closed again. You're going to be paying more for the pump. You're going to be paying more at the grocery store. All because we have to ensure that Iran doesn't have nukes, which is Trash. I've told you before the real reason we want to go into Iran. Gotta have that central bank. Gotta have that world central bank. How else are they going to create an entire world economic system where you will own nothing and you will be happy? You can't have an outlier nation, a nation where people could potentially even flee to, to escape this economic oppression that will occur if the globalists are able to achieve their plans. No. There's got to be nowhere to run, nowhere to hide. And so from the last time I checked, those three nations, Iran, Cuba, North Korea, those are the three that don't have it. We're about to establish one in Iran. We're about to establish one through economic policies in Cuba. And then the Chinese will be very, it'll be so easy for them to just turn the screw on North Korea. And suddenly there will be a centralized bank in every country in the world. And that's what these wars are all about. Is they want total control over you. And unfortunately, through a mentality of don't tread on me unless it's the GOP. You're celebrating your slavery. You're embracing it wholeheartedly. You're rah, rah, rah as your freedoms get stripped completely away. Is that the future that you want? Is that what you want in the history books? That this generation showed its soft underbelly to the state so that our kids would live in perpetual slavery? I certainly hope not. Now, I'm not done yet. I got more to talk about. I had a revelation at church the other day that I want to share with you. Hey, this is Caleb Collier with Church and State. I'm here to tell you about Hunter's Blend Coffee. I got to tell you, I absolutely love this stuff. I'm all about the dark roast. Hunter's Blend Coffee, black powder. Doesn't that just sound like deliciousness and rebellion? I got to tell you, in America, we don't drink tea. No, we drink coffee. 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That meme I was telling you with the brain with just the like a touch of electrical activity in it. That's like TDS. So far beyond that. TDS is the antithesis of brain activity. It's like all your brain activity is in your emotional, like, base brain. I am not a highly emotional person. I tend to fall towards the intellectual side of things. That's why I don't like what Trump is doing to America. Anyway, donate to us and keep us on the air. All right, with that, let's go back to the subject matter at hand. I think I've talked enough about elections, about bombing foreign countries. So I wanted to share something with you. I was at church the other day. And maybe for people that have been in the more high church models for a long time, maybe this wouldn't be groundbreaking. But for me... It hit me right between the eyes. It was like, wow, because I was raised. I was raised in the whole dispensational pre-trib. Although my mom was never pre-trib. She was always mid-trib. But I was raised that way. I had the late great planet Earth. My mom loved that book. In all of this, you read the Left Behind series, which I always thought was kind of lame, to be quite honest. Even though I like Kirk Cameron. But that was my upbringing. And those were the churches that I was in for years and years and years. And then I became Lutheran. And my whole world flipped. Went from... I wasn't... I was never post-millennial. I was pre-millennial, but I was... more on the pre-wrath side of the rapture. And now I'm in a church that teaches amillennialism. And for eschatology, that was like, whoa, this is totally foreign to me. But I'm liking it. I'm liking it. And during the sermon, my pastor, he was talking about the church militant versus the church triumphant. And he went on to explain that. What is the church militant? That's us. That's all of us who are here on earth. We have to be militant, militant against the plans of the devil. And our life as Christians here on earth is going to be a fight. It's going to be a constant and perpetual war against our own flesh and against the plans of the devil. And how do we achieve church triumphant? Death. We go to heaven. At that point, we are the church triumphant. We are with him. We are reunited with God, the creator. And then he started talking about the great tribulation. And as somebody that used to be in these eschological camps of, yeah, these are the roadmaps, the signs that we're going to see, we're going to see. earthquakes and destruction and the rebuilding of the third temple. And then the antichrist will emerge and he'll make peace with Israel for three years. And then he'll turn upon them and do the abomination of desecration. And I mean, so on and so forth. That was my world. But the pastor talked about the great tribulation in a way that I've never heard it. What is the great tribulation? Is it everything that I just discussed? Is it this image that we're seeing in front of us that Chris found? Or are we living in the Great Tribulation just simply by being here on earth? Is the Great Tribulation for me, my lifetime? The Great Tribulation for my grandmother, my great-grandfather, their lifetime? Is the Tribulation simply because we are here on a fallen earth, separated from God? That the devil has authority here on earth. That to me was groundbreaking. That was something that had never been explained that way before. And I've really mulled that over. And I think it might be accurate. Like I said, I'm new. I'm new to this Lutheran faith or Lutheran denomination. I'm learning a lot. Currently going through the classes to be confirmed. But I'm getting so many questions answered. It's that pursuit of knowledge of truth. What does the Bible actually say? And if we've all been looking towards this, this great tribulation like explained in the Left Behind series, We've had our eye on the wrong prize. We've been fooled. Once again, you know, I've dedicated a lot of the show in talking about my disdain for dispensationalism and what they've done to the Christian faith. But this is another aspect of that. A whole other aspect. And look, you've got to look at the book of Revelation and understand that that it's not one or the other. It's not full preterism, but it's not also full future events. A lot of these things that are described in the book of Revelation already occurred. It already happened in 70 AD when Jerusalem fell, when the temple was destroyed. Yeah, something here? Well, in 536... It was the worst year ever. Yeah. So that's the one where it went all dark, right? Explain that to the audience. Yeah. Well, they say there were volcanic eruptions and the sun and moon went dark and there was famine and disease all over the world. Yeah. That's the reality. We're so blind. We're so ignorant oftentimes about looking to the Bible and applying it to the now, to the present. And always the world is, hey, you hear it all the time. Like Jesus has to come home or come back soon because I don't know how the world could get much worse. And yet, as Chris just reminded us of, the year 536 wasn't awful year. And we can go throughout history and find awful times. Certainly the Black Plague. Do you think the Christians of Europe might have thought, this is it. It can't get much worse than this. They're literally driving around with their carts, their horse-drawn carts, saying, bring out your dead, bring out your dead. People are collapsing on the street. You think maybe that might have been a time period where Christians said, yep, this has got to be it. You don't think during World War II, World War I, so many calamities that have occurred upon the earth where Christians had to have been looking at it going, I'm looking to the sky. Where is he? He's got to be coming down on that cloud. That last trumpet has got to be sounding. And yet life continued on. The world continued. And right now, there are so many false pastors, false prophets that the Christian church in America is enamored with. They hang on every word they say. Even so much of what they say and predict ultimately is proven false or doesn't come true. And I was in that. I was so convinced of all of this. I was watching. What's Russia doing? What is Russia? We're watching Russia. Ezekiel 38. Right now, it's going to happen. And there's so many Christians right now that are saying, look at this. Russia's at war with Ukraine. They're going to win. And then they're going to turn their eyes. Where is their focus going to go? It's going to go to the nation of Israel, obviously. We know this. Do we? Do we know for sure that that right now is the time period for the Ezekiel War? We don't. And what does it do? What has Satan been able to achieve through this? We take our eye from what should have been our first true great love and we throw it over to here. And if Christians were being honest, you would have to admit that for a lot of you, eschatology has become your idol. It's become your idol, guys. You're not focused on what the commandments of the Bible are. You're not focused on spreading the gospel. You're not focused on caring for the poor, the needy. Your focus is, I see the signs and I know things that your average sheep does not know. It puffs you up and it makes you arrogant. You watch Many of you, that's all you do is watch. You're just going to sit back. Because the end is nigh. So I'm going to kick back. And I'm just going to wait. Because I'm going to get raptured out of here. I can't wait for that. To be raptured out of here. To be just taken away. I'm not going to have to experience any pain. So you don't engage. And you worship at the altar of eschatology. Instead of worshiping Jesus Christ. What a shame that the church has come to this point. Look, I'm not telling you that there won't be a great tribulation. Maybe there is. I don't know. I'm willing to say I don't know. Could the dispensationalist be right? Sure. But could also, should we perhaps be looking at our life here on earth as a tribulation As a great tribulation. Because I know what my spirit yearns for. My spirit yearns to be reconnected to the source. To God the Father who created us all. To be in heaven with Jesus himself. But that's not what my flesh wants. No, my flesh wants sin. My flesh is desperately wicked. Wicked. And so being that we are spirit, soul, and flesh, and that we are at war with ourselves, could we not consider that the great tribulation? The Caleb Collier Show of Church and State Media is brought to you in part by Colonial Life Spokane Independent Agents, Finders Insurance, and Mark37. com. I'm Caleb Collier. It's born for a storm. Welcome to the fire. This is Caleb Collier with Church and State. Are you tired of your device spying on you? Ladies and gentlemen, we live in 1984. 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