Church & State -Alex McFarland, the Need for Christian Unity

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We had Dinesh Desuza, and we had one of the best selling Christian authors of our lifetime, Gary Chapman, and we had attorney Jenna Ellis, We had Charlie Kirk, and we had Caleb Collier. And I want to thank you so much. And people still, you know, we're working on the Speaker series for this year twenty six some of a lot of people like Eric Metaxas and a number of other speakers. But you made a great impression. You were very powerful in your message, and I thank you for making time last year, and I thank you for this interview today. You know, I got to just say, Alex, one of the things that I so appreciate about you is you know, you and I have some different beliefs. I mean, I'm a Christian libertarian. You know that about me. But you're one of those individuals who doesn't fear that there are a lot of people that will try to silence individuals who may have differing opinions. Maybe aren't, for example, like very really supportive of the of what's. Going on with the Iranian war right now. But for you, it's about character. You like me, and so you want to work with me, you want to come on the show, and I so appreciate that about you. Well, I appreciate that. Well, you know, there's much more that unite sys than divideses. And you know, obviously for me, number one is the Lord Jesus Christ. I know that's your top drawer priority as well. I mean, you know, I'm a Christian first, but I'm a Patriot second, and we love the United States. You served our country. I appreciate that, and you are serving our country right now. I hope that I'm doing the same in all of our events, publishing and broadcasting. But let me just say, everybody watching, here's where the left eats our lunch. The left knows how to unify and conservative Christian constitutionalists. You know, they everybody's like in their silo. You know. I learned this Caleb in the late nineties when I was a youth pastor and I began to rent the local coliseum. The first big, big event that I ever did, I booked coach Tom Landry of the Dallas Cowboys and we worked. Do you remember Coach Landry Umber? Oh? Yeah, And we had. Eight thousand kids come out to hear the gospel. We had a singing group, Point of Grace, do you remember them? Contemporary Christian female group, And it was great. And I worked on it about a year, got all these churches together and for everybody to come and hear Coach Tom Landry. That was not hard to put together. But then I began to bring in speakers like Josh McDowell and Lee Strobull and James Dobson, and then I brought in Chuck Colson, who was great. Did you ever interview Chuck Colson? No? I never have. Yeah, And he was in the Nixon White House. He became a Christian while he was incarcerated, reading a C. S. Lewis book, an apologetics book, And I mean he was brilliant and just in the nineties and early two thousands. Man, just an international statesman. Well, I spent a year or two calling his people, and he agreed to come and speak, and we had like five thousand people show up. Well, oh my goodness, I had easily two dozen Baptist churches just cut me off. And I was like, Chuck Colson, he's a Baptist. What's the problem with Chuck Coulson. And they were like, well, he shares the stage with Catholics, and he says that Baptist and Catholics should unite on the issue of life, morality, marriage, And I was like, yeah, well we should. And here's the thing. As a preacher, man, I've got an opinion on everything. But if it's you believe in Jesus, I believe in Jesus. You believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. I believe marriages between a man and a woman. I believe that America and at her best, is the greatest country in the world. I mean, if it's God and country, I just feel like we should unite. And anyway, over the years, I've seen that having well, doing the right thing can sometimes be costly, I'll put it that way. Yeah, I get the right thing. I think you're absolutely right, and it's such a striking balance that we have here. You called it out so appropriately. The left is so much better at circling the wagons of ensuring that the socialists are working with the communists, you know that to achieve their end goal, and yet we tend to eat our own so oftentimes it's really rather tragic. But then within Christianity it's it's kind of interesting, Alex, because you're one of the greatest apologists I've ever met in my life, and we obviously have a duty to call out heresy. But then again, on on certain things, we're attacking Christians just for having different opinions on like the Eucharist, for example, or what baptism looks like. Does it have to be full immersion or can you sprinkle? You know, these are things that we're fighting over, and in reality, we're you know, we're the same thing. We both believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God, He's the Lord, he died for our sins. It's not like we're you know, it's not like we're welcoming in, for example, Jehovah witnesses with their skewed beliefs on Christ. We really got to stop this infighting within especially within Christianity. Yeah, well said, you know. It's interesting as you and I record this show, it's the Thursday before Easter of twenty twenty six, and this would have been the day that Christ was arrested subjected to seven really unlawful trials because in Jewish law in the first century a man could not be tried after sundown. And after sundown he was bounced around from Caiaphas Annas Herod Pilot and ultimately beaten by Roman soldiers and crucified. But here's the thing. Just shortly before all this went down, Jesus prayed. This is found in John seventeen, and he said, Father, the hour has come. I've finished the work you've given me to do. Fascinating, he says, Father, glorified me with the glory you and I had before the world was so. Christ asserts his eternality. But then he prays for the disciples, and he says, I pray not for these only, but for those who will believe because of their testimony, and that's you and I. The link of the Gospel has come down through the centuries, and the message has been handed off and now it's in our hands to take the world. But Christ praised this John seventeen twenty one. He says, Father, that they the believers, that they all may be one oee, that the world may believe you have sent me. What am I saying here? I'm saying that the secret to revival is unity in the body of Christ. And I know we differ. You mentioned the Eucharist or communion, and maybe some believe in eternal security. I do. I think if you're truly born again, you can't lose it. Others don't believe in internal security Wesleyan theology. Look, we both believe Christ is the Son of God paid our sin debt, and I just want to say to the entire body of believers, we need each other. Let me give you a verse. This is kind of wild. First John five to one. Verse John five to one says, whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God. Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God. Now, if that be the case, and it's in the Bible, well there's a bunch of Jesus people, and we're family, and we need each other, we really do. And Caleb I'll say this, I'll put back to you. I believe if the Body of Christ would really love and affirm fellow believers. And I know we have different beliefs about the age of the earth, we have different beliefs about election, free will, eschatology, the end times. And I'm not saying compromise on the essentials like you said. The Joph's Witnesses that deny the deedy of Christ, they're not true Christians. The Mormons that deny so much that is key about the nature of Jesus, the nature of scripture, teiology, they need to get born again. But for true Christians, we're family and we must link arms and work and speak together. Now I am one hundred percent with you, and I so appreciate you not only addressing the Jehovah witnesses but also the Mormons, because I think one of the greatest evils that the Christian Church in America has done is really throwing their arms around the Mormons and being afraid of addressing that. And for me, and this comes down to anybody, whether you're Muslim, Hindu, Mormon, Jehovah witness, I want you guys to go to heaven and so my charge is to maybe make you uncomfortable, maybe say something that you find to be a little bit rude. But the reality is I'm trying to get your soul into Heaven. That's what's important to me, not if I offend you here on earth. Well said, Well said, you know, Paul asked the question. He said, am I there for your enemy? Because I tell you the truth? And you know, really, among the highest expressions of love is to tell people the truth. That's what you do on church and stake. One of the reasons I love your show is because your show is to your utch truth, fact fact, and that's Hey, listen, anybody will tell you what you want to hear. A true friend will tell you things that you need to hear. And that's what you do. And that's what as Christian sets what for our neighbor what we must do. I mean, amen, and thank you so much for the compliment. And I echo that about your show because you are, as I said, one of the greatest apologists I've ever met. You are explaining to individuals why Christianity makes sense. I'd like to go with what we were just talking about, though, I'd like to flip that coin and have it land. On the other side, there are heresies that we have to address. And we already talked about Paul and and Paul like he didn't pull punches when it came to to wrongful things that were being taught within the body. We do have that duty. And it seems that within that when when you when you are addressing a heresy or or perhaps you know Mike Winger who's been addressing cover up culture within churches. Right now, there is there there does seem to be from the opposition. Hey, you don't attack the church, you know, you bring this privately, you don't say anything like that. But Paul, I think gives us the model for addressing uh wrongful teachings within the church. And it's pretty public. Yeah, well, you know Matthew eighteen not only false teaching. And you know, it's interesting that when Peter compromised in the Book of Acts with those that wanted to add works to the simple Gospel, you know, the old King James, Paul says, I withstood him to the faith. I mean, you know, apparently they were like you know, knows and knows and Paul, you know, think about this, the apostle Paul had persecuted the church, probably put a hit on Stephen, you know, the first martyr. You know, Paul might have said, oh, you know, God could never use me. I was such a bad person killing Christians. You know, I could never be assertive. And yet Paul said, I am what I am by the grace of God. Paul wrote half of the New Testament, and he wasn't shrinking back in shame or arrogant and cocky. He said, I am what I am by the grace of God. And yet when Peter, I mean, my goodness, Peter walked with Jesus. Peter was one of the apostles, but when he got sideways momentarily theologically wrong, Paul took him to cool. And that's how I mean, that's how Christians do in love. I mean, if I got, you know, out in the weeds and went, you know, theologically rogue, I hope Caleb Collier would care enough about me to say, Alex, come on back now. You need to get on the solid rock of scripture once again. And that's how we do it because and sometimes we have to be really forceful, but we're trying to do it in love. Because here's the thing is, you said the souls of people hang in the balance. You know, this would be terrible if we said, oh, you know, so and so died and went to hell. But at least I was never rude to them. I don't want to stand before the King of kings and have that excuse. But hey, I was a nice guy. I was never rude to anybody. I never offended anybody. No, I would much rather say you, Yeah, I offended people left and right. But the whole time it was about. Bringing peace to you Lord. I think that's a better thing to be able to say before the creator of it all. Yeah, exactly, exactly. You know. I just want to call them my fellow pastors out there. I have pastored two churches and spoken in over two thousand. Literally, I love it. I love the gospel. I love the biblical worldview because it's the truth that sets us free. I love Some one nineteen verse ninety three. It says I will never forget your words, for through them I found life. That being said, I want to call them my fellow ministers to really be valiant for truth and proclaim truth. Don't just get in the pulpit and be a B grade motivational speaker. Amen, I mean seriously, Look, the eleventh commandment is thou shalt be nice. That's not the eleventh commandment. You know, go into all the world and make disciples of every nation. But then, you know, like in Palausians two A, it says, beware let any man spoil you through false teaching. So we are to proclaim truth, but we are to call out error and destroy and pull down strongholds and pull down arguments and false teaching. Because Caleb, I think America right now, among other things, America has this slow, toxic, terminal illness of falsehood. Yeah. Would I would one hundred percent agree with you on that, sir. And in fact, I wanted to actually switch this conversation to a to a subject that's actually been very troubling to me as of late. And I love your insight on this, and it's going to be a little bit of a longer question, but I think you'll know where I'm going with it. There seems to be. In America quite a divide, I should say, American Christianity, quite a divide between the dispensationalists and those who subscribe to Covenant theology. Now you know, sir, I'm a Lutheran and I subscribe to Covenant theology. Now within that, as somebody who believes in Covenant theology, I don't say that God is completely done with the Jewish people. I think that God has a plan for the Jewish people. But I do believe that there is a calling for us, as you said, to go and make disciples of all nations, and I would say that that would include Israel. But I do struggle oftentimes with some on my dispensational brothers and sisters who would attack those of us who believe in Covenant theology, who say we practice replacement theology. They come up with kind of pejorative terms to attack us. But I mean, you are the man that's traveling around the country, You're speaking in churches, you're teaching. But I did want to take the time and this opportunity with you to just kind of discuss this from people that are from two sides that aren't going to get mad at each other. Yeah, exactly, exactly. And so let me ask you this just to make sure that we're, you know, speaking accurately and carefully about the issues. Do you believe, Caleb that the modern state of Israel. Well, first of all, do you believe that the Abrahamic Covenant still is in force even though Jesus was crucified two thousand years ago when he wrote in on Palm Sunday he was presenting himself to Israel as the Messiah. The high priest this and hedrew and the Pharisees rejected Jesus he was crucified. Do you think the crucifixion of Christ nullified the Abrahamant Covenant? So, I mean, that's a a very big question. When I look at the abraham Of covenant in Genesis twelve three, I believe it's it says that through him all nations will be blessed, which I believe is pointing directly to Jesus Christ. So I don't necessarily see that that that blessing is specifically only to the nation of Israel, but I believe it's pointing to Jesus, who then blesses the whole world through his sacrifice. When it comes to the the Old Covenant, I was actually just reading through Hebrews eight, and I can't remember the exact verse. It might have been eleven, but it was it was talking about how the Old Covenant is passing away, that Jesus has made it obsolete. And so when I look at it and that grafting in that we have, that root is Jesus Christ. And I want I'll say it again I said it earlier, but I want everyone to bring Jesus Christ into their life as their savior. Amen. Amen. And you know what I want to say. That's the key thing the gospel. Like in Romans one sixteen, Paul says, I'm not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone who believes, to the jew first and also to the gentile. Now, I've got a book that just came out about two months ago on one hundred Bible questions on prophecy and the end times. And you know, just to be clear, all true Christians, even if they don't know all of the terminology, we believe in the New Covenant versus the Old Covenant. A simple way to say it would be like this. In the Old Testament, they looked in faith to the Messiah that would come. Now we look back at the Messiah that did come. Same Jesus Yeshua, the Messiah. But two different sides of the cross Hallbacca, Chapter two says that we are justified by faith. So all people, at all times I believe they were not saved by works or even keeping the Mosaic law. The blood of all the animal sacrifices was a temporary covering for sin. The blood of Jesus on the Cross of Calvary a permanent eradication of sin. Now Christ's death and resurrection, it says, he is the mediator of the new covenant. Now what is that covenant? Jeremiah says, you'll get a living heart, not a heart of stone, but a heart of flesh. Jesus explains this in John three when he's with Nicodemus, and he says, unless a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of Heaven. And Nicodemus, who was one of the Jewish leaders, he goes, how can a man be born when he is old? Jesus said, are you a teacher of Israel and you don't know this? You must be born? Now, this is fascinating. The Greek word is an in a n otch in born an othan. He said, what does that mean? What means born from above? In fact, Luke, when he's writing Luke and acts Luke said having had perfect understanding an othen from above. So how do we get born from above? Well, it's the spiritual birth, by putting our faith in Jesus Christ, trust, belief, and I love Romans Ford. Now hang with me. I want to get back to Israel. But the Bible says in Romans for Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him righteousness, and not to Abraham only, but unto us also to whom righteousness will be imparted, imputed, credited, given if we believe in Jesus Christ. Therefore we've got Romans five to one being justified by faith. We have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. So we agree on this that you know. And by the way, the word dispensation is the Greek word or economy or economy an arrangement. Believe me, trust me, the Savior will come. And the Jewish people said, okay, Lord, we believe you. Now believe Jesus did come, trust who he was and what he did. So I know the word dispensation is very you know, there's a lot of baggage around that word. And I mean some people talk about seven dispensations. Listen, we all believe that the Son of God paid our sin debt on the cross. We put our faith in Jesus. We're forgiven terminologies aside. Let's maximize on the fact that we agree on the Gospel. But I've got to ask you this, do you believe that the modern state of Israel has the right to the historic homeland of the Jews, the land of Israel? Caleb, would you believe them? Yeah? I mean, and that's a I mean, that's a very big question, right because obviously examining the creation of it, we have the Balfour Agreement, we have the Rothschilds who literally kind of bought into the creation of the state. No, I mean, I'm not going to be one of these guys that says, you know, Israel doesn't have a right to exist. I think they do. I think much like the government of the United States, so oftentimes there's a lot of problems within the government of Israel. I certainly don't look to what has occurred in. God's for example, and applaud the human death and destruction that has occurred there. In fact, my heart mourns the loss of so many of these Palestinian especially the women and children. And so I think it's I think it's right for us as Christians to question that and to mourn over this loss of life. But yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna I'm not going to go out on that limb and say they don't even have a right to exist. Yeah, it's it's me said. And the thing about it is there's no really easy answer because you know, they're Palestinians that have been there for centuries. And the very doubly tragic thing is that so many of the Islamic leaders that they're willing to have women and children die. You know, I counsel with well, I've counseled with several soldiers and who were in the Middle East have had to save lives, shoot women. I talked to a soldier that they're watching a woman and a little. Child and actually, Alex I apologize. But we've come to that hard break. So it's actually probably a great pause because this is a really interesting story that we're going to discuss when we come back. Ladies and gentlemen, I want all of you to be a walking billboard. 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Support us to keep us on the air, because we are trying to grow and we're trying to stay on the platforms that we're already on. All right, with that, we'll go back to our guest, Alex mcfahry land. As I said, one of my favorite people in the world. And Alex, I cut you off, but you were telling the story of soldiers that you have had a council, who have had probably the probably had to make the worst decision in their life to protect life. They had to kill somebody that was a woman or perhaps a child. Yeah, okay, well, thank you for having me on. I really appreciate that. You know, the Middle East has been such a place of spiritual warfare, and I think that speaks to the fact that we live in a world of truth and error, light and darkness, you know, God, angels and demons really and I've counseled some soldiers and veterans that one in particular, I'm thinking of Caleb who saw a woman, an Islamic woman with a child, and they were about to detonate a knapsack bomb in a very public place. I mean, the law of life would have been significant, and this sniper, as they were trained to do, had to shoot this woman who was holding a baby as a human shield. Very sad, but lives were saved. And so you know, I know your audience, probably the majority believes this, But Satan is real. Satan is a murderer from the beginning, and the devil, I believe, has just escalated his evil because he knows his time is short. I literally believe in the return of Jesus Christ Acts one verse eleven. After Christ rose from the dead, he ascended to heaven, and the angels told the disciples at that time that this same Jesus will return in like manner. And I think we're very likely near the end of time. Caleb. Now I'm not going to sit around and just you know, do nothing. We're supposed to be faithful, be ready. We're supposed to help as many people come into a relationship with Christ as possible. But I mean, think about this, Caleb, We very likely may be alive when the Lord Jesus Christ returns to planet Earth. And you know, I'm so glad you were mentioning those devices that are you know, the mobile devices and laptops that you help promote where people can't be spying and surveilling us. You know, the global surveillance state that the world has become like this global police state of surveillance everywhere. My goodness, I think the chess pieces are on the table that with very little the Antichrist could emerge and the scenario as we read about in the Book of Revelation could be played out during our lifetime. But be encouraged, folks. Christ is coming back, and by putting our faith in him, we are ready. You know, I appreciate you bringing that up, Alex, because we don't want to make the globalist system or the antichrist job easy, right. I mean, obviously we don't have a sit on our hands approach to our Christianity but yeah, when it comes to the technology that they're developing that is literally entrapping us in that surveillance state, why not exit it? Like if there's ways, I mean, we talk about like going and getting a victory garden, planning a victory garden in your house, right, so you're growing your own vegetables and fruits. Well why not do something similar to that with your technology? With the phone that so many of us can't live without, but get one that doesn't spy on you. Yeah, well, exactly, exactly, And you didn't know that Virtually every if you've got a regular one of the major carriers, every text and most conversations are being surveilled. They really are. And look, I applaud our law enforcement using technology to catch the bad guys, the drug dealers, the illegals, the jihadists, the Chinese communist, But listen, for those of us that are patriots and we love God and country, we've got nothing to hide. But our constitutional rights to privacy should be preserved, and sometimes we have to make some very careful technology technology choices to preserve that. Caleb, I wanted to ask you this while you and I are talking the birthright citizenship, that the Supreme Court is evaluating right now. How do you think that's going to play out. Yeah, I don't see Trump being successful in this one. Personally. We've already seen even some of the conservative Supreme Court justices that are pushing back against this. I do understand the argument from Trump's side that things have changed. Obviously with the technology with airplanes, people could just come over here. There's obviously that birthright tourism that is occurring, but it is, I suppose also a little bit dangerous to approach this. I think we should be. More on the side of addressing each individual case as it comes forward. Clearly, there are individuals who have nefarious agendas for coming over here and trying to get that anchor baby as they were called in the past, but there is also other people out there that are escaping massive persecution. Like we could go to Nigeria, for example, and say there are people with some Christians there that if they stay there they are going to be executed, they will lose their heads. And if they're coming over here and they're having a child, I think perhaps we should examine that through the Christian lens and offer them a whole lot of race. Yeah, yeah, like I say, look the same with Israel. I mean, there just are no easy answers. In my home state of North Carolina. We do a lot of events in South Carolina because of all the theaters down here, but actually my home state is actually North Carolina. There is a member of the Chinese Communist Party that his wife was pregnant and they just suddenly had to make a trip to the USA and she was here a couple of days and delivered their baby, and so now they this is a high high ranking member of the Chinese Communist Party, a decision maker, and he has dual citizenship now because his child was born on American soil. I just that's that's not acceptable. But you know, I think the left their core conviction is, you know, political power and expanding the voting block, even if that jeopardizes the future of the US constitution. We're living in tough times. I completely agree with you, sir, and I think one of the massive solutions here that I wish the Republican Party would address a lot of these issues go away. If we simply remove the entitlement programs, we should not exist as a country. That is, I don't know, dabbling with socialism doing socialism in pajamas, where you come here and you know you're a little bit poverty stricken, and all of a sudden, it's on the it's the responsibility of. We the people to pay for your bills. I think if we remove that and just return it back to a land of competition, a land where we can succeed by pulling ourselves up by our bootstraps, then then that attraction from a lot of these foreign countries will go away. Well, let me say this again. In my home state of North Carolina, and there are many other states like this. All right, if you're here illegally or you have a child illegally, you get free college tuition. I worked three and four jobs to pay my college tuition, and I'm glad I did. I thank God for it. But I mean there's so many things healthcare, healthcare. Because of the very misnamed Affordable Care Act, we have to buy insurance. But if you're here illegally, free healthcare, I mean, it's just crazy. And great ethicists throughout history, and certainly the founders of the country, the first duty of a just government is to look after the welfare of its actual citizens. Now, the thing is, and I know I can hear it Christians just saying, oh, look, you know entertain the stranger. Well, we have s, we have the protocols for people to migrate here, which they may lawfully do, as millions have. But let me just say this is just so crazy. During one of the No King's rallies, which all of the poor misguided souls that protest in the no Kings rallies, oh you're paving the way for kings. They're called mulas and in mom's I mean seriously, but there were banners that said there are no illegals on stolen lands. Yeah, it's just crazy, you know, so fair enough you don't want to live on what you think are stolen lands, well you may get a one way ticket to any country you choose to go to. But we are two hundred and fifty years into the constitutional republic that has brought to humanity, more liberty, more prosperity, more stability, sustainability. I'm telling you America is at risk because of very unintelligent, ill informed, misguided liberal middle aged white women. You know, I respect your right to voice your opinion, erroneous, vacuous, vapid as it may be. May God help America. We don't need people to make good decisions. We need people to make hard decisions. And the hard truth is the future of our country is so much at risk. I'll say this, I'll put back to you, folks. Two forces are arm wrestling for the future of America, the iron fist of Marxism, the iron sword of Sharia. One thing and one thing only is sufficient to hope both of these juggernauts at bay. And it is a Judaeo Christian constitutional republic. And I will tell you the the the mauthy, middle aged Karens that love to be woke and progressive. I fear for you if Sharia actually comes. I think that's incredibly well said, sir, because they're not going to farewell. And you know that that Karen haircut that you like to wear, nobody will see it. You'll be covered by ABERCA. Alex h We're actually we're winding down here and I want to make sure to promote your website here, so I want everybody to go to Alex McFarland dot com. Fantastic sight, ladies and gentlemen, everything you need to know. Some of the greatest uh you know, apologetic essays, blogs about how defending your Christian faith, as well as keeping up with Alex and his travels around the country and really around the world. But Alex, anything else you'd like to say about the website. Well, well, God, bless you, thank you. I've got a brand new article about the recent moon shot the rocket launch Artemis too. But we're on a speaking tour called Revive Us. If you want us to come and we'll do something in your city that is multi denominational, multi generational, multi ethnic, for God and country, just email us. My email is super easy, alexat alexmcfarland dot com. That's Alex at Alex McFarland dot com. We've done fifty one major citywide crusades two thousand churches. Let us bring the Revived Us tour to your city. It won't cost you a thing, but let's work together and let's bring people under the sound of the gospel. I absolutely love that. I need to get you to Spokane. I need to work on some of the churches I know out here to get you out here. It'd be fun. I mean, it'd be an amazing event, but it'd also be fun to hang out with you again too. So yeah, I may have a little bit of my own agenda on that one. So Alex, always a pleasure having you on. You're a reoccurring guest on this show, and I absolutely love that. So I'm gonna go ahead and close us out. 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