Church & State -Blackpilled with Etienne de la Boetie2, Howard S. Lichtman
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Church & State -Blackpilled with Etienne de la Boetie2, Howard S. Lichtman

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Spokane Valley could become a sanctuary city. A different Houseman Caleb Collier says that this I'm. Opposing that the City of Spokane Valley issue of proclamation stating that our city is a Second Amendment sanctuary. Welcome to the. Fire today on Church and State The Art of Liberty with Howard Lytchman. Hello Christian Patriots, and welcome to Church and State, where we drive morality and religion over tolerance and apathy. And I'm your host, Caleb Callier, once again, your favorite far right shock jock and the show that talks about politics and religion. Jesus Christ is our referee, so it's always nice and clean. Real quick, I'm going to point you to the website Church and State dot media so you can do a few things. Number one, register, we want you to get our newsletter as well as a personal phone call from me. So right there, there's your opportunity, name, phone number, and email. While you're on the website, please check out some of our most recent episodes. 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If you like the conversations, if you like my antics, please hit the donate button and help us keep the lights on. Lastly, if you want to get ahold of us Church and State seventeen seventy six at Proton me by that. Let's go ahead and start this show now. I'm very excited about this. I'm bringing on the head of the Art of Liberty Foundation. This is Howard Lytchman. He's a visual collaboration focused technologists and consultant with specialties and organizational and individual productivity. That is quite the mouthful. He's a founder and president of the Human Productivity Lab and obviously doing a lot here with the Art of Liberty Foundation. Howard, is a pleasure to have you on Church and State. You've you've revealed my secret identity and so you know, usually when I usually i'm the voluntarist author at ten del Buis Squared and I usually go by at ten dela Buisi. It's not really a it's not really a secret. When I first wrote my book Government the Biggest Scam in History, how innergenerational organized crime runs the government, the media and academia. Part of what I did in that is I broke down the hidden curriculum of the government school system. My ex wife had my children in the government school system, and I didn't want them to get any heat for what dad was doing, and so I started writing under the non diplume of Etendela Buiss Squared. And most people know me and know my work through that pen name etiendla Buisse was a French political philosopher. He wrote in the sixteenth century, and he was really the first one to break down the tricks and techniques that governments use, you know, not just to get obedience, but to get fealty and adoration and God saved the Queen and all hail the Chief, and to get people to go along with something that isn't in their interest. And so I feel like I took his pen name because I'm doing his you know, his work in the modern age, and I'm pulling back the curt and showing people that you know, there's like a playbook of how do you slave up a population, how do you run government on them? Think of government as a technique for robbing and controlling a population. And so so that's why I took the pen name. And that's the history. But most people would be familiar with me through that and uh and uh. But but I'm happy to you know, go by Howard and we can you know, like it's not like I said, it's not a secret or anything, but that's but but that's how you find me on the internet. Is Etty in daylight, we see squared with the numeral two afterwards to denote that I'm not the you know, the real one, and and also to you know, separate my work from the originals. So when we originally started communicating, we were emailing, and I was emailing obviously Howard. But then I did see on the website that that you have the two different names. I largely chose Howard Richman because I'm the type of guy that can ruin the last name Smith. Uh And when I looked at that, I was like, oh, I will butcher that name. So my apologies, but yeah, if you don't mind, I'll just I'll just be calling you Howard throughout the end. Of Fine it's it's it's bowie c or boie tu, depending you know on which Frenchman you ask. But it is from a marketing standpoint, it's the It's probably the worst marketing decision ever because nobody can pronounce it and nobody can spell it. If you if you hear it describes. That it's fair. Yeah, I mean you could have done bostiaut or something like that. I got that one. But uh, no, no worries at all. I want to talk to you about the art of Liberty Foundation because I've been exploring this website and you have some phenomenal things on here. What made you want to start going after the government scam? What so many people believe that, you know, governments are necessary, not even necessary evil. A lot of people just think government as overall is a good thing. Well, I you know, so so I it all starts with doctor Paul and so so you know, when I was when I was in college, I you know, Bron Paul was running for the nineteen eighty eight presidential candidacy of the Libertarian Party. I had to attend one of his, uh, one of his one of his talks against my will. I was supposed to be jet skiing on a lake that day with some friends and it became a required assignment and I was mad about it. But once he started talking, I realized, Hey, you know, I'd never heard a politician make so much sense. And so I walked out of there and I said, you know, I guess I'm a I'm a libertarian. And then, as you know, I ended up working for you know, one of the big four think tanks in d C, where you know, the libertarian one, where I became you know, acquainted with the philosophy of liberty with the economics of the free market, and over time I became a you know, what's now known as a voluntarist, the idea that all relationships must be voluntary. Nobody has an exception for morality victually the government, nobody has rights that other people don't have. And I really, you know, came to an understanding that we really didn't need government. And not only did we not need government, but we would all be dramatically wealthier and more prosperous, and there would be more harmony in society because you wouldn't have to fight, you know, at the at the like the school board level, for control the school board where you know, if you lose in in uh in California, you get lgb q T studies forced on your your kid. If you lose in Virginia could be critical race theory. If you lose in Michigan, it could be Islamic studies. And so you know, in a in a in a voluntarious world, you get to pick whatever kind of education that you you want for your kids. And if you want Montsori, you get Monossory. If you want Waldorf, if you get Waldorf, if you want vocational training. You get vocational training, and so it's it's it's just a better way of organizing society where people can on a vote with their dollars every time. And if we didn't have this organized crime government and this fractional reserve banking system, then everybody would be dramatically, dramatically wealthier. And so I think you and I connected originally because we you know, we just came out with this this this study at Artofliberty dot org Forward slash Inflation where you know, we've calculated that that you know that the cost of government in from the banking system, that the total extraction including you know, the purchasing power loss to fractionalser of banking something called the contillion effect, the compound trap, the ways that the government and the banks steal the value out of your money plus the extraction of taxes, plus the they're you know, because they're lying to everybody about social security and they're about the inflation rate. You know, they're going to be stealing. They're they're stealing you know, a dramatic amount through underpayments. They're not paying the true cost of living adjustment of Social Security because the Bureau of labor statistics is lying about what the inflation rate is. And so the total extraction is over two point seven million dollars from the average worker. That's a sixty k you know, salary for forty years and then twenty years of retirement and over that sixty year span. If you really break it down, it's it's over two point seven million dollars at sixty k. If you're one hundred and twenty eight. You know, if you're making one hundred and twenty a year, you're making two hundred and fifty a year, it goes up proportionally, and I mean that's a tremendous extraction. And that really is the big scam of government. The big scam of government is that it's the banks on the top and they, you know, they've lobbied and bribed the government to you know, to give them a monopoly on the creation of currency and credit. And they're using this you know, dishonest monetary system to steal the purchasing power from the average American and that's transferring to the banks. You know. In the report, you know, we calculated fifteen between nineteen thirteen and now, between fifteen and twenty five trillion dollars with a T and so that's that's an amazing, amazing amount of money, but it doesn't go directly to it. So they have to steal over three hundred trillion in the same time period to get the fifteen to twenty five brillion pure And we can talk about the mechanism behind that, but like it's the greatest theft in all of human history has been the of the purchasing power of the American people between nineteen thirteen and today. You know how one of the things that really bothers me when you go to political events, and I go to a lot of them, but a lot of these politicians love to say, you know, Maca's the freest country in the world. What you just describe is not a free country. This is a country that is literally enslaved by debt. We've lost the purchasing power of the dollar, as you said, and we almost seem to be like living in a brave New World scenario where where they keep the people kind of sedated, kind of happy with with the bread and circus, as it were. But the reality is is we are all slaves here. Yeah, it's a slave it's a slavery system and you know, in the study, you know, we break it down at Artofliberty dot org forward slash inflation to where it's over forty years worth of work. So so the you know, the components when you when you add up the components, and I'll just break down the components for you. So part of it is just the pure you know, pure inflations, the loss of purchasing power of the dollars that you earn it save, they should be going up. So in a in an honest monetary system under you know, when we had the gold standard and we used the time period from about eighteen eighty to eighteen ninety six is kind of like our baseline prices were benignly deflationary, and you're the purchasing power of the gold back dollar, and the silver back dollar was actually going up and you were it was kind of transmitting the savings from innovation and productivity improvements and so you you know, so your purchasing power was actually buying more and more and more every year, which is really obviously the way it should be. Is as you know, businesses figure out how to you know, use less fuel with jet engines, and you know, now we've got trucks that haul two or three you know, trailers behind them on the roads, and we've got you know, we've got you know, inner shipping. They've actually got a sale that they can put on tankers and ocean going vessels like like aftermarket and you know, reduces the amount of fuel that you need for the voyage. And you could just think all the different ways that business has been able to get the cost out of either the manufacturing or the you know, the distribution of things. And so so we should your dollars should be buying more and more every year, but your dollar is buying less and less because these banks are able to issue their own money. The banks are creating money out of thin air. When you go to bank to get a mortgage, when you go to a bank to get a car loan, or when they when you when you borrow on your credit card, they're not loaning you to posit your money. They just tickle the ivories. They credit your account with these digital dollars, even though that's inflationary, and even though that's stealing the value out of your money. And then they've bought up the media, and they've bought up the government, and they've they forced you to go to this mandatory government school or these you know, government affiliated uh you know, rip off universities and colleges, where they're not going to teach you why that's happening. The media and the college professors produce, you know, pretend that inflation is caused by you know, fairies that show up at night and sprinkle pixie dust on price tags and gas pumps, and it just magically, you know, inflation is something that just magically happens. Whereas if you were to ask any you know economist, uh, they're going to tell you that that's a monetary phenomenon that's caused by creating too much, you know, too many of these dollars. You can think of the dollar if you know, the example I give is if I have a dollar and your listener has a dollar, and and I have, you know, fifty percent of the world's wealth, and the listener has fifty percent of the world's wealth, we only only two dollars in the world, and a bank or a government comes along and creates two additional dollars using fraction o reserve banking or quantitative easing, or a printing press or digital dollar creation, whatever it is. Now all of a sudden, me and the listener have been reduced to owning twenty five percent of the world's wealth, and the bank or the government has stolen fifty percent of the world's wealth. Now multiply that by a gazillion dollars and you understand where that two point seven million dollars comes from. But that's only but the stealing the value out of the money is only one of the ways where that how that theft is produced. Because when the banks and when the government are allowed to create hundreds of billions of dollars at a time, there's two more you know, economic mechanisms that fuel the theft of that system. And one of them is called the Katillion effect, which is a three hundred euro old, you know law of economics where the we're an economist, Richard Katillion noticed that when when these dollars come into you know, into into being, they tend to benefit the people that get them first. And that is you know that that's you know, kind of best you know identified in our situations. You know, after the the COVID, after the great financial collapse of two thousand and eight, you know, they pumped brillions of dollars into the system. And then they gave that that came into you know, through bills, bonds, notes, the Fed buying its own issuances. It came into the primary dealers, and then the financial industry began buying houses that had been wrecked, so people were you know, the So the economy went into the toilet because of Wall Street, Shenanigans. Wall Street, then, you know, in partnership with the government, creates hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars. Wall Street gets it. First they began buying single family homes. They bought over four hundred and fifty single family homes by twenty twenty two. It jacks the price single family homes through the roof. They buy them in bulk through a through a government program called Rio to retail. Okay, and now the average person has to has to you know number one. So they crank the value of that asset through the roof so that they they benefit. And now if you wanted to buy that same asset that lot that the cost is called the catilion effect. And then the third component is called the compound trap. And now you've got to borrow from the same banks that cranked up the price of housing to be able to buy a house, or you've got a rent at an amount of rent that is now two x or three x, would it have what it would have been if they hadn't cranked the price of the homes through the roof And so that's just three of the mechanisms that we're that we're you know, we're covering in this in this new report that we call the greatest stuff in history, showing how the government and the banks are extracting this money from the from you know, from the population where they wouldn't have to borrow or they wouldn't have to borrow as much to be able to get in a home, they wouldn't have to you know, have to borrow for or borrow as much for college, they would have to borrow from the banks, for healthcare, they wouldn't have to do. You know, there's all there's a lot of this money, you know, is going directly to the banks that are causing the problem and are stealing the value out of your money to begin with. In addition to the value that they're stealing out of your money. You know, within the the greater Conservative movement, I would say, uh, we've had we've had this enemy that we've identified. Uh, you know, obviously George Soros was one of them. But the World Economic Forum was a was a big one, you know, formerly led by that that James Bond villain, which he literally looked like a James Bond villau. But he was honestly just saying the the quiet part out loud. He was telling us we'd own nothing and we'd be happy. And that's exactly what's happening, not just in America but around the world. They have, through the taking away the purchasing power of the dollar, they've ensured that we would be slaves. But now they're moving into that next phase where we quite literally will be incapable of owning anything. So h So we have an organized crime system. I mean it's it's it's organized crime at the top. I think it's the banks at the top. And I think it's the you know, the Rothschild, Rockefeller Banking, you know, Empire. For a variety of reasons that we can you know, we can get into, but I'll just I'll just sum it up. And these these banks are creating money out of thin air, and they're buying the world with the little digital dollars and little paper tickets that they create out of nothing, and they're buying up and they're providing kind of unlimited capital to certain favored companies to buy up and consolidate their industry. And this is what's ending up is the fortune in five hundred and the fortune one hundred and and it's not capitalism, it's not free market, it's not what you would see absent this crooked monetary system. It is. It is an organized crime cartel, you know, waging a kind of economic warfare against the population. The World Economic Forum, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the Builderberg Group. These are organizations that they're taking the CEOs of companies that have been stolen with fractional reserve dollars, have been bought up and consolidated with this this this this dishonest money, and they're giving their their all. They're they're providing a forum to organize these companies and the c level executives and the reporters and the producers and the the uh uh the uh editors of the media that they've bought up and monopolized as well, into these organizations where they're meeting on a regular basis in secure facilities that have been swept by bugs. Because if you're going to run the world, you've got to have meetings. And these are the institutions that allow them to have meetings and secure, you know, on a regular basis, and secure facilities where they're given their marching orders. And one of the things that we do. My best known book is a book called you Know, Government, the Biggest Scam in History, And the subtitle of that book is how intergenerational organized crime runs the government, the media, and academia. And that really is the kind of the big secrets, the government and the media working together. And the most powerful weapon on the planet isn't the hydrogen bomb, it is control of perception. Can we get you to believe that you're not a free and independent human being, but you're an American or a Canadian And and because of this imaginary line, you now owe money to this capital city and it's your duty to pay. And it's and and it really is. They're you know, they're creating a kind of artificial tribe. They're leveraging the behavioral psychology of human beings, the need to want to participate in the tribe and then they're you know, what we break down in in in the book is that they're selling that idea to the population as a kind of pseudo religion called statism, which is the belief in having a state and having a you know, a ruling class so that they can be tax farmed and robbed and controlled. But the most powerful weapon that makes it to get makes that possible is the control of perception. And that is the monopolization of the media, and that is the algorithmic censorship of what I call the DARPA Internet. You know, we can we can pump up certain voices, we can turn down other voices. We can shadow band you know completely, we can demonetize, we can d index, we can turn you know, at the same time, we can turn up controlled opposition voices so that all you ever see on every single channel is government is legitimate. Government is legitimate. Government. Not only is government legitimate, but government's the hero. And so you know, the Defense Department has an office in Hollywood, one thousand movies, one thousand television shows. Anytime you see anything that has military equipment or you know, is shot on an aircraft carrier or if they're using f sixteens, or they're using Chinooks, or they're using blackhawks or whatever it is. The you know, the Pentagon has script control over that movie. In some cases they're rewriting history. And the directors understand that not only is if the government's not the hero and the CIA isn't saving the day from nuke's cooking off and cities around the world, you know, you don't get the equipment, you don't you know, there's a a well understood kind of quid pro And then the kind of dirty secret of Hollywood is they're product placing the American flag at moments of high positive emotion in the television shows and in the in the in the movies, so that it's a it's a marketing technique known as anchoring, to where they'll build up the movie to a moment of high positive emotion and then they'll show you the flag, and then they'll show you the flag, and then they'll show you the flag, and so so. In my book To See the Cages to Leave It twenty five techniques that few use to control the Many, I break down a lot of these kind of unethically manipulative techniques that the government is using on the population, to get them to self identify as a as an American, you know, it's been decided for you, uh, and to get you to buy into the you know, the the legitimacy of government, the necessity of government, the desirability of having a government, even though that's not an ironclad law of the universe, and even though we'd all be dramatically wealthier and have much more prosperity and living in much more harmony without government. But those are ideas that are never ever ever presented, either in the government school or in the monopoly media. I got to tell you, I think for some of the audience, you're blowing their minds, but you are absolutely one hundred percent spot on. I mean, Rockefeller thanked the media a very very famous speech where you thank the media for being quiet, that they wouldn't have been able to get as far as they were with their plans if the media actually would have been doing their jobs, you know. And even when you're talking about Hollywood there and how they use the flag, they build the ascendo of music and everything, you're feeling really positive and there there's the backdrop of the flag. As you were talking about that, I was reminded of the assassination or attempted assassination of Donald Trump where during an active shooting scene the flag the crane comes over and the flags when you're saying fight, fight, fight. I mean, it was iconic, right and what it to do. It got everybody to believe in the government to look at and say, oh, look, they're the power. I got to tell you, Howard, I don't think it's an accident. I didn't plan this, but I'm wearing my obey shirt from uh they Live. I've got the right there. Yeah, So I mean it's kind of perfect Bob Ross happy little accident right there. I want you to talk about because I want to shock the vast majority of my audience. The vast majority of my audience is going to be on that conservative Republican spectrum, even though I'm very open and tell them all the time I'm a well, I refer to myself as a Biblitarian, so they know I'm a Christian libertarian. But can you talk a little bit about how the Republican Party is doing the exact same thing everything that you're talking about here, The Republican Party has its hands in because most of my audience is going to say ah, the Democrats they're the bad ones. The Republicans they're the good side. That's not the case, right, So, I. Mean, the first thing I'd say is, so it's an organized crime system. It's illegitimate on its face. Like, the number one thing to understand is you cannot have a legitimate government. It is impossible to have a moral legitimate government. And when I say that, you know you can't be bound by a social contract that you did not sign. So unless you personally sign the Constitution, you're not really bound by it. It's impossible to delegate a right that you do not possess, that the population does not possess themselves. So if if Caleb does not have the ability to make up rules for his neighbor or steal his neighbor's money and redistribute it in charity or good works or whatever, then Caleb cannot, you know, delegate a right he does not possess himself to a representative or to a government to exercise on his behalf. And if my fiance and I can't vote to rob you because there's two of us and one of you, then it doesn't matter. If there's three of us, it doesn't matter if there's ten of us, it doesn't matter if there's two hundred million. And so that's why the you know my book is called the Biggest Scam in History is because it's been the biggest scam in all of human history. And how that is, like I gotta pause you. That's a great little teaser. The biggest scam in history government Right there, ladies and gentlemen, we hit that hard break. This is Caleb Collier with Church and State. Are you tired of your device spying on you? Ladies and gentlemen. We live in nineteen eighty four. Your phones, your tablets, your smart televisions, they all are spying on you. And this is why I heavily endorse Mark thirty seven dot com. This is everything you need for your digital privacy. Phones, tablets, laptops, all of them are ghost protocol, so that means that you are in charge of your own data. Just go to Church and State dot Media, scroll over to shop and hit Mark thirty seven dot com for all of your privacy needs. Make sure to use that promo code Church and State and we are back. Thank you for staying with us. You're over at Church and State dot Media and I can't wait to go back to my guests, but real quick I do. I gotta plug one of our awesome affiliates. 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And whether you believe that or not, and I know that there's been a lot of mythology that has been built up around the founding fathers and the Constitution and everything like that, but I think the one thing that our audience can't agree on is that, no matter whether you believe in having a government or not having a government, that the government in Washington, d C. Is being run as a criminal enterprise. And there are hundreds of billions and trillions of dollars that are going out the back door to very identifiable groups that are then you know, spending money to install and you know, the government that we have right now. We talked a little bit before we got started about APAC and about you know so so you know, so if it's if the banks are stealing fifteen have stolen, have stolen fifteen to twenty five trillion dollars since nineteen thirteen, as we described in kind of the first part of the interview, you know what you know, who are they installing and who's behind that? And the number one banking family. The two biggest banking families out there are the Rothschild banking family, which essentially invented central banking and have controlled the currencies of nations going back you know, across you know, five different countries. Meyer Rothschild had you know, five sons and sent them off to you know, create a banking dynasty and became essentially the first international uh you know, banking system where they were able to transfer currency and create lines of credit you know, but you know, uh and and also begin financing governments and so so the the Rockefeller family you mentioned, uh you know, uh, the quote of of David Rockefeller about the you know, the media keeping the secret of them, you know, building an international supernational you know organization, using the Council on Foreign Relations, using the Trilateral Commission, which has been you know, meant to bring together Europe and Asia Pacific with the United States and an integrated system. And these organizations were finding danced by you know, the Rockefellers, who David Rockefeller was the chairman of Chase National Bank, which is now JP Morgan Chase. You know, There's been a lot of you know, mergers and pieces of it, but you know that he was he was he was a banker. He established the Council on Foreign Relations, He established the Trilateral Commission. The World Economic Forum is an offshoot of the Council on Foreign Relations, and so the you know, the Council on Foreign Relations was the original organization that penetrated the cabinets, and it penetrated the cabinet in the United States. And one of the things that I do in you know, in in my book Government the Biggest scam in History is I have organization charts that show, you know, going back decades, you know, through multiple administrations, whether it's Democrat or Republican administrations. Going back decades, every major position of power in the United States has been held by somebody that was either a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, or the builder Berg Group, or two of those, or in many cases all three of those organizations. Jeffrey Epstein was a member of all three of those organizations. To give you an idea of how the you know that worked and if you're going to rob the world, you've got to have meetings, and these are again the organizations that allow them to have meetings. But going back decades through the presidency, the vice presidency, you know, cabinet officials, the head of the FBI, the head of the CIA, the head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, you know, major university presidents. You can see hunt and one one of the charts that we have that we actually have a poster sized copy that you can get of artliberty dot org forward slash store or arteliberty dot org forward slash white hyphen rose. We've got a variety of these posters where where we're using visualization to make some thing that was invisible now visible. And so what you can do with visualization, is you can take something like, if you didn't understand that these people were populating you know, every single major power center going back decades through Republican and Democratic administrations, Okay, a visualization can actually bring that, and you're like, holy crap, they've owned every major power center in the United States going back decades through Republican and Democratic administrations, and so that really has been the big scam. And whether at the top, I mean, you know, there's there's tons of good Republicans out there, there's even there might even be a couple of good Democrats. But at the top of these political parties and these and these levels, these are installed, you know, henchmen for this organized crime system. And if you take a look at the policies of Donald Trump and Joe Biden, you know, objectively, uh, they're fighting over kind of football issues that are you know, might be important to you know, one part of the conservative base. But both Joe Biden and Donald Trump are a hundred percent aligned on everything important to the real rulers of this country. They're one hundred percent aligned on hiding the Epstein files. You literally just threw a bucket of ice water on so much of the audience right there. To say that Joe Biden and Donald Trump a percent aligned on what truly matters to their handlers, to the people actually in charge, that is an awesome statement. I'm so glad you said that, because I've been literally like pulling my hair out. I don't want to pull my hair out, but I've been pulling my hair out trying to convince people of this very fact. No, no, let's break it down. Let's break it down for them. They are one hundred percent aligned on transferring trillions of dollars to private banks and private companies through the TARP and the TULF and the quote unquote bailouts. There are one hundred percent aligned on stealing the value out of your dollar through fractional reserve banking. They're one hundred percent aligned on wars for Israel. There are one hundred percent aligned on hiding Epstein files. They were both one hundred percent aligned on the COVID. They were both one hundred percent aligned on getting an experimental vaxation. You know, quote unquote vaccine that has proved to be harmful and have all kinds of heart issues and fertility issues and things like that. You know, into the public's veins. They're one hundred percent aligned on confiscatory taxation, estate taxes, you know. You know, they were one hundred percent aligned on the warfare, the economic warfare of lockdowns. You know, they were both. They're one hundred percent alt. You know, we go keep going down the list, but like like that right there, you know that there's like probably like eight or nine that you're like, wait a minute, I'm against every single one of those things, and yet Donald Trump is for every single one of those things. And so it really has been a scam that they've been able to get away with because they have this media system where the vast majority of the controlled opposition voices and the monopoly media are pretending that it's legitimate, number one, that there is a government. They're pretending that it's legitimate that the elections aren't rigged when they're obviously rigged. You know, like I believe that that they threw the election to Joe Biden, like one hundred percent. Trump won in twenty twenty, but not for the reasons that people thought. They threw it to Biden, because they wanted to keep Biden in for four more years so he could leave the borders open so that Trump could come in as the populus strong strong man for the next phase. That they'd already whiteboarded what's going on with Iran, they'd already whiteboarded, you know, Goon's on the street through Ice. They'd already you know, they'd already figured out what the policies were, and they knew the military and the domestic law enforcement, federalized law enforcement would probably wouldn't go along with it under Biden. So they you know, they left, They threw the election to Biden. But Trump's in on it, and it was for the purpose of that he so that he could star in the next season of Government. Uh. And that's where we really where we are now. And the cast they're so zany, it's crazy, like you know, it's like like it's it's just it's it's truly unbelievable. But it's a television show. And you know, Trump's not making decisions, Biden's not making these decisions. These you know, these are these are political puppets that are forced to put on, you know, a suit and a tie and go and read off a teleprompter and do the you know, make do the business of getting things done. They got to go to work every day. I think Trump's been a propped up billionaire until he got to the presidency and began stealing money through the presidency and things like that. But I think that you know, they've they've had him by the short hairs ever since nineteen ninety one. A lot of people don't realize this. The Rothschild family bailed out Trump in nineteen ninety one when all of his casinos went busted and his debt was restructured by Rothschild Incorporated. And the head of the bankruptcy refinancing group at Rothschild inc. Was Wilbur Ross, who went on to be the Secretary of Commerce in the first Trump administration. And Wilbarross very famously said, you know, I you know, when when when they restructured, when they you know, dead and provided fresh financing, He said, you know, the star power of Trump leads me to believe that, you know that he's going to be at the the casinos are going to have kind of more you know, uh, you know, ability with with this star with his star potential at the top. And so I think they realized they had a guy that had charisma and had some you know, uh, and so then other Zionists. So you know, the Rothschild family. Uh, they famously created the state of Israel. The Balfour Declaration is a very you know, famous historical English document where the English government essentially writes to you know, Lord Rothschild and says, hey, we're giving you Palestine, okay. And they gave the they gave the the they gave the uh you know what what they had been administering in a kind of colonial you know system to uh, the Zionist movement that was being financed by the Rothschilds and so the roth So why would the Rothschilds, Why would bankers they're running an organized crime banking system. Why would they want to have their own country? Because having your own country gives you diplomatic community. And now you can move around the chessboard and your documents and your hard drives and you and your communications and everything like that can now be hidden in a way that you couldn't do without having diplomatic community. Now you have a base of operations, Now you have extra you have freedom from extraditions. So there's not an extradition agreement with the United States. A lot of people, a lot of Israelis have been convicted of crimes in the United States and have gone to Israel to serve their sentences, and you have the ability to receive hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars through foreign aid and reparations. And so the amount of foreign aid that the United States, so you know, has been has transferred to Israel since nineteen forty eight, has been over three hundred billion dollars in twenty twenty five dollars. And then that does even count all of the of the money and the technical assistance and the and the intelligence that we've given Israel. It doesn't count. We give them obsolete weapons systems. We've given him over six billion dollars of obsolete weapons systems. One of the we gave him a squadron of F fifteen fighters in nineteen ninety two. We're still fine the F fifteen today. So we're giving them opposite billions of dollars in obsolete. That sounds very absolute, Yeah. Very very obsolete. You know, three of them just got shot down fighting a war for Israel, you know, two a couple of weeks ago, and so so this is you know, so now they you know that so they install Trump. First of all, they they they they they create the legend around Trump, and I believe he was swept up in what's in Washington, d C. I used to live in Northern Virginia. I used to be a member of the largest CEO networking group, you know, in in Northern Virginia, Washington, d C, in Maryland, and in Washington, d C. That the operation that Jeffrey Epstein was running is known as a Brownstone operation, and that name comes from I don't know if you remember Barney Frank who was a member of Congress that was running a similar operation out of his brownstone where he had a gay call boy service, you know, creating blackmail material on other members of Congress and prominent people within you know, the Washington d C. Political scene. And so that became known as a Brownstone operation. But Epstein was obviously being handled by Gislaine Maxwell. Gaslaine Maxwell is the daughter of Robert Maxwell. Robert Maxwell was probably the most famous spy that that that that Israel ever had until Maxwell and Epstein came along. But you know, essentially, you know, she learned this this operation at the knee of Maxwell. Maxwell was when you know, when he died. His funeral was attended by a sitting Prime Minister of Israel, an ex Prime Minister of Israel, the President of Israel, the head of the Mosad, which is the CIA of Israel, and five other retired heads of Mosad, and so not a regular guy. And then his daughter pops up running almost the exact same operation Epstein's number one client, Les Wexner. Les Wexner's wife, Abigail Wexner, is the daughter of one of the co founders of the MOSAD. So that's where the money's coming from. What are they doing. They're buying in, blackmailing and controlling people within the United States that are then transferring over half a trillion dollars to Israel. So it's been three hundred billion plus in puraide and so again they created. So they've they've got, they've got, Uh, they've got him by the balls. After the bankruptcy restructuring and after they they bailed him out and after they you know, they provided fresh financing and restructured all of his debts. Uh, they had him swept up in the Epstein Brownstone operation going back decades when Epstein and Trump were friends and hanging out together and doing god knows what in New York City. And then along comes Ari Emmanuel, and Ari Emmanuel was Trump's theatrical agent, and Ari Emanuel is the brother of Ram Emmanuel. Rama Manuel was the chief of staff for Bill Clinton or sorry for Obama during the Obama administration. He became the mayor of Chicago. He was an elected representative in the House of Representatives. He was a Goldman Sachs banker, UH and his brother is one of the top agents in Hollywood. The He's the character that Ari gold and Entourage in the television series and movie on Tarage is based on. And Ari Emmanuel creates the legend and intelligence parlance of Trump being a competent businessman. They give him media training. They you know, they give him the show The Apprentice. They give him a national stage with the pageants and with the worldwide wrestling and with you know, appearances and movies like Home Alone too, and you know, everything that that Trump was doing. Now all of a sudden, you see his face everywhere. So they put him on the monopolized media. They create the legend around Trump, and then they come around and they pump in just one one donor. The Adelson's Miriam and Sheldon Adelson, who are Zionis casino magnets and you know or billionaires, Zionis billionaires. They have provided Trump over four hundred and twenty million dollars across three election cycles, so twenty sixteen, twenty twenty and twenty four just from the Addilson alone, it's been four hundred and twenty million dollars they install him. Starting in uh so, we were giving the we were giving the government of Israel three point one billion dollars a year in twenty sixteen when Trump took over. Within two years, that gets cranked up to three point eight billion dollars a year, so up seven hundred million dollars. You know, do what do they get for their investment? They crank it up. Sleepy Joe gives them an additional seventeen billion dollars and twenty twenty four on his way out the door that Trump distributes in twenty twenty five and twenty twenty six and now we're waging So if you so, the three hundred billion is is kind of that three point one to three point eight billion dollars a year that I mentioned and all the other you know, billions, that came before it, going back to nineteen forty eight. But then if you include US five fighting the who they'es, if you include us fighting for Israel and Yemen, if you include the first you know, bombing raid, and you include what we're doing now in Iran where we have no business and being you know in Iran right now. Uh that is projected to be an additional two hundred billion dollars in both the hard costs of the weapons systems and the munitions that we're expending in the in the crash F fifteen's and the and the and the aircraft and everything like that. But also now the American consumer is paying crazy jacked up prices for oil, and so they're milking the American consumer. They've been caught in doing you know, insider trading on you know, on on the on the the stock market and energy price fluctuations of this oil that this that this campaign was guaranteed to generate. And so it really is you know, now you're looking at at uh at at spending U you know, in addition to what they spend on Trump a pack alone, another you know, identifiable group is spending over one hundred and twenty five million a year to install members in Congress. And if you take a look at the members that take a PAC money, it's three times the amount of members that don't take APAC money. So so a pack if APAC was a political party in the in the in the Congress of the United States, it would be a larger political party than the Republicans and the Democrats by a factor of three. So they're installing politicians in the United States. Those politicians are voting to send, you know, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars back to Israel. And we're at over a half a trillion dollars. And that is a country that was essentially founded by one of the banking families that is behind the theft of the fifteen to twenty five trillion that they've already stolen from nineteen thirteen till now. And that's what's going on. And all you got to do is follow the money. And it's a huge amount of money. And we're talking, you know, we're talking, like I said, like, Israel alone has gotten over half a trillion dollars. Easy. I gotta tell you, Howard, I I was originally going to call the show the Art of Liberty, but I think we're going to change the name to Blackpilled with Howard Linchmack because you have just you literally have dunked the audience in truth and some of them might not be ready for it. But this has been absolutely phenomenal. It's not I mean, I interview a lot of people, and over the years, I've interviewed a ton of different people. It's not very often where I am like, I completely agree with everything that they are saying, and you are one of those guests. So I say this a lot to people. I got to have you back, but I am going to have to have you back like I need you to be like a reoccurring guest on Church and State because I love what you were doing. We've actually ran a little bit long. I didn't want to stop you because that was absolutely phenomenal. But I do want to push the two websites here that I have number one Artofliberty dot org. And you were talking about that poster I'm actually I think I'm on it right now. Is that the White Rose individual poster. If you get to the White Rose, you'll see we have a whole variety of posters. But like I said, you know, we do visualizations. You know, if you try and explain to your friends and family that there are six companies running hundreds of subsidiaries in the media, they may or may not, you know, believe you. But if you show them a media ownership chart, then all of a sudden they're going to they're like, holy crap, there's five companies, six companies running hundreds of subsidiaries. To give everybody the illusion that there's all these choices in the media, and that's the power of visualization. And that's what I do with the books Government The Biggest Scam in History to see the cages to leave it. It's not like like I know a lot of your audience, I know exactly what we're talking about, but it's the best way to wake up your friends and your family. My book Government, The Biggest Scam in History has been the best selling book at over two dozen plus liberty conferences and events. It's become one of those rare titles that people are buying in fives and tens, over ten percent of our sales our friends bundles five and ten packs, so people are donating them to libraries that are giving them to friends and family because it can. It can wake somebody up in a way that a text only book won't. And that's kind of the magic. What we're doing is you've got to see it with your own eyes. And when you see it with your own eyes, you come to that deeper understanding, you come to that moment of insight. And so that's what I do. I wake people up to how the system really works by letting them see how it works with their own eyes. Well, my wife, to my wife, I'm just going to let you know I'm going to be ordering a number of these books, so you're going to see a number of charges that are coming. Sorry, I have to because I love this stuff and I hope the audience does as well. As this is stuff that we have to be reading. Like I said, absolutely black pilled here on today's episode, Howard, I got to close this out, but you know, I pushed the website that we're good there. But just any last statements for the audience. Here now, I mean, freedom is important. You know, we've got to you know, we've got to get this parasite of government off our back. We need to be we need to be free. Freedom is what creates the wealth and the prosperity and solves all the you know, the issues that we have as a country. You know, if if the government hadn't stolen two point seven million dollars from you know, the average person in the United States, much more for higher earners, the world would would be a very very different place. You know, there's more than enough wine, cheese, and bread on the table for everybody if there wasn't parasite of government stealing two point seven million dollars from the average the average person in the country, and so like we would be you know, that's that is the cost of government. That is the big scam. That's what's that's the main thing that we've got to get everybody focused on is where did this two point seven to you know, in some cases, you know, tens of millions of dollars for higher earners. Where did this money go? And like, I like, I think, you know, people are going to be shocked when they when they really understand how it was done. And then the final plug is that's an art of liberty dot org forward slash inflation. You can download you and get that report. All four large language models, all four AIS have have converged and agree with our math. Like, that's not just me saying that. That's you know, that's every single large language model and you can actually replicate it. You can ask it. We explained the prompts, we give you the methodology. You can check our work, you can check our math. You know, that's not just me saying it. That's that's you know, there's a lot of there's a lot of economics and we're using the government's own numbers. We're using Federal Reserve data, we're using the BLS as you know, uh, you know CPI. We're showing you what the alternatives are too. But like like it's we're using government data to cut it's not that that that we just made that up out of our you know, out of our heads. You're going to be shocked at how much they've stolen from you. All right, well, well there you go, audience. You have got your homework right there. Howard, it has been an absolute pleasure having you on. Like I said, I'm gonna have to close this out, but if you'd hold on one more minute post production to say oah, goodbyes, I'd appreciate it. But I so thank you for your time for your work for really promoting liberty and trying to bring the people out of slavery. Thanks Gabe, and thank you for what you do as well. Thank you sir. All Right, ladies and gentlemen, there you go talk about being blackpilled. That is so much information. I believe you might have to rewatch this show. 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