Church & State -Sam Anthony Rebel Journalism Fighting the Empire of Lies

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Good to see and I definitely know you and I know anything decentralized is a good thing when it comes to libertarians, So I completely agree with you. Yeah, our you know, we're now pushing about six thousand news reporters all over the United States. I think that's exciting as hell. And now we're starting to add them daily, more and more keep coming. So the this is going to be good times, kid, That's all I'm going to tell you, right because you know, you and I have lived through and everybody else that's listening through, you know, centralized news and then deep platforming people like you. Now, I was never you know, I never had my own show or I didn't produce any content, so I was never on any of the social media sites. But look at all the people that were kicked off by Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, right, I mean, rumble only exists because YouTube kicked people off, Right, They filled the void. True social only happened. Because of because people being kicked off of h Yeah, it was true social of Twitter because the name change always screws you up, right from from Twitter to x. But yeah, the void we feel is the collapse of the legacy media. And it's all local news, so you know, it's you know, local, state, national, So we're kind of excited about it. I mean, I can see us getting to know at least ten to twenty thousand news reporters by the end of the year. And that's a. Lot of people, it is, and I'm thrilled that I'm a part of it. I forgot to mention that we're a part of your news as well, and I love being part of that network. And it's really it is the rebel journalists. And I want to actually start the conversation with, you know, a discussion about that legacy media, because we came to a point as Americans where we understood that legacy media was lying to us. And basically the way I view it is, we had the ABC's the NBC's right, and we realized that that was a lie. And then it came into the twenty four to seven news cycle of CNN. Fox News came a little bit after that, But after that we actually realized that both of those were lying to us. Well, Like, I really get upset with people who watch Fox News and think that they have an understanding of what's going on geopolitically. No, you're getting lied to. So then with Trump, we saw the rise of more of a conservative wing. But unfortunately, what I've seen as of late is a lot of those conservative influencers they're being bought, they're taking APAC money, things like that, and if anybody goes against them, for example, Tucker Carlson, Candle Candice Owens, then their names are getting dragged through the mud. Your news is the answer. It's totally decentralized. We don't have to agree on really anything. You could have a total left winger on your news and you're still going to platform them because you don't believe in censorship. No I don't, But It's funny you said that, because you know, the the mainstream media, I couldn't really understand what upside they had to lie. And the only thing you could come up with was, well, somebody's got to be paying these people, but who's writing the checks? Then we've we've learned through NGOs that they've been getting billions of dollars and I went, well, there. You go, taxpayer dollars too, Sam, it's kind of we were funding it. Yeah, right, I mean it's disgusting. But so I'm I'm listening to Candice Owens, I'm listening to Tucker Crosson. I've listened to Megan Kelly. I mean, you know, certainly, uh Tucker and Megan Kelly. I mean I've listened to them for years, and all of a sudden they just turned and I'm like, the hell are you talking about? That doesn't make any sense. And now you're saying they're getting paid and not, well, now that would make sense. But you know, now I'm going do they really need the money? I mean, like, does Tucker really need a paycheck? I mean, you know, isn't that guy worth like fifty million dollars? I mean, what the hell does he need money for so I hope you're wrong, because you know you shouldn't be. You shouldn't sell out just for money. Okay. I get politicians. The only reason they're there is we have the best Congress money can buy. That's the business model. But news is supposed to be. If you're reporting news, it's all about integrity, you know, and there should be no amount of money you can take to change your viewpoint. Now. I understand, and there's people that don't like Trump going to war, and I understand they're railing on it for that, you know, I think that should have been done twenty years ago what they're doing today. But that being said, I get that you may not like that, but to completely turn on them the way they've turned on them is just beyond me. Look, look, you and I had a conversation off air, and you're not a fan of this, okay, But at the end of the day, do you think Trump is trying to create a better world for all of us? I mean, I don't think he's doing it because he is an idiot. I think he's got a plan. I didn't think I don't think Matt Nyahu just called him and said. Hey, what he's doing well. An idea, why don't we go, why don't we go blow up? I ran, you want to have some fun, break some ships over. I don't see that as the way this went down. I see this as this was orchestrated when before Trump even got in. I mean, you know, it's a there's a big question you just asked me. And let me add some clarification. In my opening statement, I was talking about conservative influencers and them getting paid off. I wasn't actually talking about Tucker Carlson in canadasz Owens. They may be getting paid off, I don't know, but I was talking about more of like the Dan Bonginos, the Ben Shapiros that were getting paid off and really directing conservatives in a specific direction. To answer what you were saying about with Trump, I do. I do have a differing opinion here, and I see America as really an empire that has been created that is sticking our nose in the business of other countries. I mean, if you ever looked at example, for example, Sam at the amount of foreign bases the United States has versus any other country, I mean it's insane. I mean, we can talk about China being the greatest threat for US. They only have one official foreign base and that's in Djibouti. The United States, I mean South Korea alone has eighty bases in South Korea. This is an empire. This isn't this isn't a Republican anymore. We're acting like an empire. And when it comes to Trump, I see basically meet the new boss, same as the old boss. I see a party system that really directs you in the direction that they want. They offer a solution on the left, they offer a solution on the right. It's two wings of the same bird. Well, I agree with you when it comes to to politicians, okay, with the exception that the left has no solution. It's just we don't like kids. Okay, that can't work. Even though it's working, we don't. Like That's fair. And when it comes to Trump, I would hope that this is part of a bigger plan. And obviously his history hasn't written itself, So you and I don't have a crystal ball, and there's no possible way of knowing if this didn't happen seven years from now, would you know Miami or New York or DC have a new kid. You know, we don't know, but if there was the threat and it's been averted, I would be all in on that. But we could never know that. So I agree with you on imperialism and we stick our nose in other people's business. But I also think that. If you from a strategic standpoint, if you're controlling Venezuela now okay, and if you're controlling the straits of poor MOUs, what does the world run on oil? There's got to be a bigger picture here. So I don't think Trump wants trouble. I think he wants to eliminate the problems and make sure that for the next hundred years everything moves smoothly. That being said, who's going to be in office next and what stupid things are they're going to do? Because here's what I've concluded. Anybody that goes into politics has absolutely no idea what they're doing. They're not the brightest. These are not like when you if you're running a company, you need to hire people that know what they're doing, except when you go to Washington. These are people that have no idea what they're doing. And so the people that are already there go, oh, well, you got to do this, and then they look at what they're doing, and they go, well, that's the dumbest idea I've ever seen. No, no, no, you don't understand. You get paid for it, you just vote for it. I wrote a entire book on it. Sam. Political incontinence has nothing but the stupidest quotes from politicians from both sides. And that I mean that to test to exactly what you're saying. These are some of the dumbest people out there. AOC is the perfect example. You ever see her on foreign affairs. I mean, she doesn't even know what to say. Not that I'm an expert, but my god, I set a rum and coke. Okay, just give me a drink. I don't need your opinion on anything. I don't know what to say. But whatever they're doing, it's not in the best centers of the country, and it's in the best interests of ever paid a look at John Thune, right, So you have eighty seven percent of a country that wants some kind of means of voter ID so we know that you're a US citizen voting. Yet this guy's not bringing the Save Actor. Not that I think the Save Act is the greatest thing, but you know, the people wanted, but John doesn't think so. Okay, John says, no, no, we're going to hold off. Well, so you have to ask yourself what's his upset And the only thing you can conclude that makes any sense is somebody else is telling him not to and they're promising him money on the backside where he gets a job Atvisor as a consultant that he gets ten million a year, whatever it is. Because this just doesn't make any sense. I mean, I'm of the opinion that you need to get rid of all of them. Okay, we need to we need to Jim call me them. Okay, I am completely down with that. If we could remove every single politician at that federal level, even in a lot of cases the state level, I think our country would benefit greatly. Well. All you have to. Do, like I told you before, is cut off all the funds where they could spend no more money. What they are. You have to understand, these are bank robbers. That's all they're therefore is to figure out how to funnel that money through them. And once there's no more money, you know they're going to be picking up the phone going Gavin, you guys, got any room overever for me? How much money you guys got left. That's it's all it is. And once they rape and pillage those blue states, there's going to be nothing left. I guarantee you, mark my words, you're gonna call me in and say we need to go on a show. They're taking the pensions next, because. Oh no, I know that's going to happen absolutely. I mean California is already looking at it. Washington State where I reside, is already looking at that as well. Yeah, the pensions. Sorry, people, if you're voting Democrat because you want to secure your pensions, they're going to rate it just like they did Social Security, just like they did Medicare and Medicaid. The government is always going to be as you just put it. They're the new class of the robber barons, that's. All it is. And they're not going to be fiscally responsible because that's not the business model. Okay, Whereas you have states like Florida here where they have a surplus and they're actually lending money to Blue states tied into like their water bills and stuff. So you know, so we're getting they're getting guaranteed cash flow coming back. This is a whole house of cards, it's gonna come down and the and what they believe is that you'll get a Democrat in office and then a federal government will bail them out and they can continue their status quo. But you're right, yeah, because if you were noticed that every time I have Sam on the show, he rubs it in my nose that he lives in Florida. He's like, he's like, I know you're up there in Washington, Caleb, so let me just mention Florida a whole bunch of times, because it's we got sunshine and we got conservatives, and I'm just like, cut his mike, Chris, just cut his Mike's He's making me angry. He keeps talking about Florida and how great it is, and I know it is. Hey, look, we need guys like you there behind enemy lines because look at that weapon behind you. Okay, you see what's behind me. Aren't work. I don't know anything about shooting anybody, but you you, I could tell you're a killer. Are going to go out there and get rid of all the problems here. I'm just making sure that they do their job, that's all. Yeah. And you know somebody's got a golf right, you know, it's a oh my god. If I wasn't here, none of the golf courses will be used. Well, I absolutely love it. Let's go back to the rebel journalists because you know, one of the things that I bring up on this show quite often is the very famous quote from Rockefeller where he thinks the media for not reporting, not doing their job, being that fourth wall right, that he thinks them for not reporting on the plans of the globalists. And this is going back, I think, all the way to the twenties, if memory serves me correctly, this is what we have with our journalists nowadays. People that have been paid for, they've been bought, They are little lap dogs for the party system, and they all report exactly the direction that the government wants to pull the people, and that is not the job of responsible journets. And you get people who actually report on the news, people like Gary Webb, for example, who reports on that the CIA was shipping in crack too poor black neighborhoods in south central LA. And what happens to him, He commits suicide with two shots to his head. Sure that's that's journal that's journalism in America, Say too, Yeah, exactly because everybody, Yeah, any suicide, and I'm a former EMT, I've been on a lot of suicides. Nobody shoots themselves twice in the back of the head when they kill themselves. Look, I agree with you. I you know, we've been living in a world of centralized media. And you know, in the eighties he had. Five hundred independent news outlets. Today they're six. And you know it's all funded by institutional money like black Rock and Vanguard and these companies. Look, it was I'll be honest, it was a smart move. I would have done it, Okay, I'm just letting you know because and you wouldn't do it thinking you want to control the narrative. But information is power. He who controls all the information has all the power. It's just how it works. I mean Mark Zuckerberg is a perfect example of this. I mean the information he controls is garbage. I mean, you know, here's my kid's baby pictures. Not that that's garbage, but I mean it's you know what I mean, it's I have a friend of mine. Every time he eats a meal, he posted on Facebook really like I got to see your chicken pikada or whatever the hell it is, so I mean, to me, that's worthless information, but he's got two billion people doing it and that and that information gives him power, and that's why he's worth billions of dollars. So I I would have done it too, because it's a roll up of the media industry. And what I wouldn't have expected was for the federal government to step in, and they probably did it through some kind of you scratch my back, ey scratch yours, which then turned into guys are having financial problems. Well, look, it's not our problem, but if you want us to be able to give you money, we're going to be looking for you to soften the blow on some of the stuff we're doing because we know it makes no sense. The country knows it makes no sense. But we just want you to kind of put some dressing out it and make it taste good for the rest. Of the public. That's exactly what we do. Going back to like Dick Cheney during the Weapons of Mass Destruction, you know, this is a man who literally went to the New York Times tip them a story so that they wrote about it, with the Weapons of mass destructions, all right, and then goes on meet the press and then he points to the article from the New York Times to prove that yes, indeed, Iraq does have weapons of mass destruction. That's the cycle. That's how insane it is. That's the how in bed our media is with politics completely. So here's the good news. All of it's going to go away. I'm going to tell you probably in the next three four years five on the outside, not sports, because sports is gonna be around forever. So Espan everybody paniccking go no, no, Espan's gonna be around, Okay, but all of it is moving to platforms, and I'm gonna give I'm gonna throw some numbers out to you. YouTube has sixty one million channels, sixty one million people like you, and that that amount of channels drew in three billion people last month, whereas Rumble has two undred and fifty thousand it drew in fifty million people. You have TikTok and Instagram, which have over one hundred million channels, and so all the all the eyeballs are going to the platforms. The platforms have millions of people that are promoting their own shows, right, So you're one of if you're on if you're on YouTube, you're one of sixty million. I got banned off of YouTube. But I know, I know, But you get my point. If you're on Rumble, you know you're you're part of two hundred fifty thousand people and you're all saying, go check me out on Rumble and there's you know, there's fifty million people that just showed up on those quarter million users. So what's going to replace the legacy media? Because remember, there's still a demand for news, it's just consumption that's changed. It's how people are consuming all that information. YouTube created a technology where anybody could be a broadcast journalist. Now I don't remember if I asked you this before, but if you ever went to broadcast journalism school, never did. Okay, so how are you possibly doing this? Isn't there some laws you're violating? Should you be in prison right now. For a multitude of reasons, Sam, actually. But not broadcasting. So YouTube literally what they did was they changed the way people watched video content and how they consumed it. Right, and they allowed everybody to be on a channel. But the marketplace made the decision, which from a libertarian standpoint is you got to love that. Okay, I'm doing the same thing for local news reporting that YouTube did for broadcasting journalism, and that anybody can become a local news reporter, but the marketplace is going to decide who does it. So what ends up happening from that? Caleb? And this is where I have to watch my words because I know it goes on. But you know it's it's a little exciting because for you, especially because you're talking about complete decentralization and people say to me, well, I have a friend of mine who said to me, well, I just want to go to a place where you know. The news is factual. And I said to him, Charlie, it doesn't exist, because no matter what they say, you're always going to say it's I don't believe it. I don't know. So you just have to find somebody you trust. And that's how it's going to work. So in our case, who do you trust? Well, how about if your neighbor, Let's say you like your neighbors, you trust them to go over and have dinner and they become one of our news reporters and they start covering the local events and share it with you. You're going to say, they're gonna say to you, Caleb, can you believe this happen here. Read my story and you're gonna go, wow, you were there. Yeah, So I don't. I have no idea what could happen in your town at a city council meeting. There's no possible way I can know. And somebody said to me, well, what if they lie, Well, then I'm going to give pick the emails from people saying this is this is BS. That's how I know and from a news reporter standpoint, and I'm going to ask you this question. The only thing you have is your integrity, right, and if you start lying to your audience, how long will they be around? They will disappear. And I would support them disappearing because I don't and I say this all the time on my show, Sam, you know, because I'm more of an opinion guy, and I tell people all the time, Look, don't take my word for it. Do your own research, do your own homework, your own education. This is what the conclusion I've come to. But that's the journalism. That's the honesty and the integrity that I expect from the mainstream media, and we don't have it. And that's why your decentralized platform is one that is growing and is the future. Yeah, well, I agree with you. I think that, you know, this is going to really help out a lot, because imagine, you know, we we currently have almost six thousand you know, contributors, but that's starting to rise, and it's all across the board. I mean, it's people doing fashion in New York, and it's people that are doing hockey dues, and people that are doing basketball dues and baseball stories. And it's you know, people that are doing entertainment news. It's people do movie reviews, theater critics. I mean, it's it's all over the place. But as we get bigger and bigger, it's going to attract more content creators and then you're going to start to get the stuff that Caleb's looking for. Right when it when it gets out that holy crap, this guy's got ten million, fifteen million people showing up at the door. I need my stuff in front of those people. And they start pushing that agenda and I'm looking for it too. What is it called something growth? What is it called? They just had it? I think where they where all the elites meet and Builderberg? Yeah, the Builderberg Bohemian grove is yes. Right, Okay, Yeah, somebody emailed me, and I think they they said that they were disgusted by that meeting that just took place. For whatever. The point is, you're going to start getting all that stuff, and you're going to start getting stuff that no mainstream media would have ever got because they would have never run it. If anything, they would probably turned him into the authorities. And they've been arrested for. Something, well, nobody wants to talk about, you know, a bunch of naked man running around in the forest of California participating in supposedly mock sacrifices. Yeah, bohemian groves. A pretty sick subject. But it should be like, if this is what our elites are doing in this country, every agency, every news agency, should be out there reporting on it. You would think, you would think so. You know, look, I believe that. I believe the Democratic parties and shambles. I mean, they have a deficit in terms of money. I think they're thirty million in the hole. The Republican Party isn't ton of money. I'm not suggesting that the Republican Party is the greatest thing in the world. I'm just suggesting that the Democratic Party needs to be gone. And I don't think they have a prayer. And with all this jerrymandering that's been going on and then losing seats, I think that from the standpoint of common sense, I think we're really in a good position to be able to, you know, keep these idiots out of office. Then what you got to do is you got to clean up the other idiots, you know, the ones that the John Thunes of the world and the other ones that really need to go. And you know, first get rid. Of the evil and then within your own party, get rid of the crap. Notice I use the word crap and. Out another word because I appreciate that. But you know, I mean what an interesting country would live in if it was, you know, the two party system was the Republicans versus the Libertarians. Boy, that would be I think we'd be in a better position as a country. You do lead me to a question that I want to ask you. You know, I mean, obviously you have your finger on the poll. So what's going on within the news media in particular twenty twenty six. You know, we're gearing up for a very contentious election cycle, and you know, the Republican talking heads, if you listen to the Sean hannitys and whatnot. They're all saying we're going to win. What do you predict? Well, I've been saying we were going to win a year ago. I think it's I think it's going to be a Grand Slam, and it's not because of everything that's happened. If you look at the map, the voting map, you know, of the red and blue with cheating, eighty seven percent of the county's voted red with cheating, which really means that it was probably more like ninety five. So a lot of people say this country's divided. It is not divided. You probably have five to ten percent of really stupid people and all the rest have common sense. You're going to have the people that say, well, if I bring in a thousand and I spend five grand, I'll be fine. No, that's not the majority of America. It's and sense. Well, you know, I don't see any reason why men can't play in women's sports. Really, they would never win anything again. Okay, So I don't believe that, and I believe that with what we have in place right now and the big cleanup that has been going on. You have the NGOs that are now gone. Where's the Democratic Party is going to get their money. Who's going to put in money? Would you mean, seriously, would you put in Well, I've got an extra of twenty million to throw in. I mean you might as well. It's a dumpster fire. You might as well just light it on fire. You'll get a better result for it. I mean, the only reason people are donating to the Democratic Party or the Republican Party is they want something in return. Okay, that's it. And what are you going to get? Because if they're not going to be in power, you just gave money away for nothing. You'd be better off buying a Republican Believe me, they're for sale. They are they alreaded for sale. Yeah, I mean, this is an interesting question and I might have a differing view on this, and this is a great teaser. Actually, ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna have to come back because we've hit a hard break. But real quick, I do want everybody to check out your news dot com. Your news dot com. It's a great resource for anyone who's interested in local news, national news, statenews. 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But things have changed a little bit. There was jerrymandering and a lot of it was fixing the problem that had already exists in the Southeast. Actually, you're going to see the Republicans are going to clean house. There is going to be no more blue states in the South, in the Southeast specifically. But also what I saw with Thomas Massey and Thomas Massey, I believe there was election fraud there. You had Trump's endorsed candidate, you had a lot of APAC money, most expensive election for a congressman in our history as America, and I saw a fraud that was occurring there. So it appears that the fraud that we experienced from the Democrats in twenty twenty has now flipped to where the people in power can control elections once again, although they're on the Republican side of things. So now I think if we're operating under that, we might see, as you said, more of that red wave. Thoughts on that, Sam, I do. Think we're going to see a red wave because I think people are just tired of it, and I think the cleanup on the what you call jerrymandering, which is really just fixing the problem. I mean, some of these states you have forty seven percent Republican but have zero people for representatives. I mean, that's that's just absolutely ridiculous, and you would think that, you know, even on the other side, you know, it would be easy to deal with these people, like you know, if I'm a Republican and the Democrats came and said, almost half the state is blue, why do you go, You're right? I mean, I think we should fix it. I mean I'm not here to control anything. I think we should fix everything to make everything there. They just have no interest in that. Their interest is really in destroying the United States. And don't get me wrong, I'm not a big fan of the Republicans either. We control you know, the House, the Senate, and we control the White House, and how much stuff actually gets done. The only thing that gets done is executive order. That's and more wars. Yeah, it seems like. Well, you know, so we could go back to the whole war thing. But here's what's going to happen. Let's say that we're on a playground and some kids picking on you and I say to them, hit them, hit them, and you say, no, no, no, I really don't want to do that. You don't understand this is going to go on forever and one day when when he gets bigger, he may end up really hurting you bad. And you say, well, you know, I just think that, you know, it's. All right for him. And then I walk up behind him hit him in. A back of the head with a bat and drop them and I look at you and I go, kaylem, no more problem, No more problem. So you couldn't help yourself, I'll help you, and you're gonna go you're violent, Yes I am. It's done. We can move on because that guy ain't hit anybody ever again, all right. And all I'm saying is you have Iran, which is funding all the terrorsts. Remember the stories. About Ukraine and that was a money laundering for the Democrat and Republican party and they were flowing all the money through there and they have no idea and it's going to offshore accounts. You know, damn well they excuse is that okay to say? And they were stealing money? They were stealing money, correct, they use it as the money laundering. What do you think they're doing with Iran? And Iran's taking money and they're funding all these different isis and HESBLO and all these different terrorists organizations eliminated. I would do it much faster. It would be a bath at the back of the head. You're done this time. You're bringing up some interesting points in regards to Ukraine. There, I mean, the money laundering issue there is on record. We know that that's what occurred. But the United States participated in a coup. We deposed a duly elected leader. We literally sent people in under the guise of going in and teaching them social media strategies, but we built an army of people to go and create civil unrest in that country. And then allegedly we had snipers in there. That were shooting people using the same bullets the doctors who were taking care of the patients in Kiev. With these massive protests, that everybody getting shot, whether it's the cops or the protesters, and getting shot with the exact same round. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense. And now we've created this boondoggle in Ukraine. We pressed Russia because that was part of the deal that we would never ever have NATO on their doorstep. Now with Ukraine, guess what we do. So now we're engaged in this massive war that I don't see an end to all because the United States once again interfered, had that empire state of mind and went in and created havoc. Okay, so I agree with you. None of it should have ever happened to begin with. When it comes to something like Iran and they're funding terrorists all across the globe, get rid of that problem. But didn't we But didn't we fund? I mean you look at like Obama for example, he funded Isis, he funded al Qaeda. The United States, I mean, we funded these terrorist groups and the SOD in Syria, you know Libya, they were keeping these people in check. And now we've created this vacuum to where they're able to operate without any borders, creating more terrorism. I mean, can't we use more diplomacy as within the United States to bring about positive changes instead of creating endless wars and then power vacuums for dictators and war lords to come in and take power. So I would always agree that that needs to happen. The problem is there's no negotiating with these people. And also what you're describing is past administrations and they had a different agenda. It's my personal opinion that Trump Trump's agenda is not to figure out how to create chaos and and create wars that are going to go on into perpetuity. I think he's just trying to create clean up the problem, get his hands around that oil and that straight of horror moves, and say, Okay, this ain't ever happen again, thank you for your time. And now what happens is in order for these these terrorist organizations to function, somebody's got to give money to buy the equipment to build these bombs, and none of that if all that money is being cut off. I'll give you a perfect example. The Democratic Party right now is breathing through a straw. They have no money. Why because the NGOs were cut off. Think of that as the tear organization. You cut off the money fund and laundering, and they can't survive. No, I think it's a very fair point actually within the Democrat Party. And you know, we've had people that have revealed information on this show about some of these NGOs and the money laundering that was going there. Clearly they were taking our taxpayer dollars, stealing our money through inflation, through the federal reserve, and funding a lot of terrorist organizations. And I would include the Democrat Party in that I would agree with you on this. You heard Elon Musk say ninety percent of the money that goes to an NGO never leaves DC. Let me say it again, ninety percent of the money that goes to an NGO never leaves DC. Where's it going? Where's it going? Okay, And so you have to know. Now, I'm sure they said it goes to a bunch of different accounts, but ultimately ends up in one place. I got to believe they know where this stuff is. So let's just hope that somebody gets arrested for this. So you and I are on the same page. I believe government to stay out of everything. We shouldn't get involved in other people's problems. The problem is, current administrations for the last fifty years have done nothing but make a massive mess of everything. So you got four years to clean it up. What do you do. I can definitely understand that. And you know, for me, somebody who is is more you know, constitutionally oriented, but even the constitution I would go even more libertarian on. But clearly the answer for us is in the Declaration of Independence. And I believe that this government has proven itself that it does not support individual liberty, and so it is the right and the duty of the people to create a new one to replace it. Okay, well, so far they did that. They brought in somebody that wasn't an insider. So he's only got a couple more years. Let's see what he could do. But I'm all for changing governments and making sure these people can never spend another nickel of our money again, because there that's the whole that's the whole root of the problem is there's too much money involved. This is like getting to a pro level. You know, you're in college sports and you're trying to break through to go into the pros, and then you get into the pros and all of a sudden you got a thirty million dollar contract. Well, you know, look at AOC. I mean this, this woman went from bartender to the pros. She went for how am I going to pay my rent this month? To holy crap, I'm buying buildings. I'm worth, I'm worth you, you know, are net worth? A book she's in here? Yeah dollars? Yeah, I mean, I mean I can look it up for you right here. Honestly, there's only one thing I would hire her. For twenty nine million, Sam, twenty nine million dollars her networth and she's wearing a eat the rich dress. Perhaps she should engage in self cannibalism. I mean maybe. Twenty nine million dollars that blows me away. And she's been in office for four years. I mean I think she's been in a little bit longer than that. Yeah, And this book was published actually last year, so it's probably even more money than that. So she's from twenty nineteen actually when she first got into office. Seven years six or seven. Okay, So here's the point. This was a bartender, couldn't pay bills and somehow she's worth thirty million dollars and there is nobody that could explain that because she didn't earn it. She never earned any of it. But she's sitting here trying to dictate to us how we should live our lives while she's stealing our money. That's the stuff that has to go. Literally, AOC is unemployable. Okay. Can you think, and I don't want you to get rude or crude, can you think of an occupation. That she could do besides bartending. I mean, I wouldn't even trust a drink that she made, to be quite honest, like she'd probably screw up the order, give me a pier and she'd probably bring me an ipa, which is disgusting exactly. So I mean, how did she somehow a massive wealth of thirty billion dollars? And so it's very difficult for me to keep my mouth shut on your show. But I get a little pissed about this stuff. So what we need to do is we need to fix it. And the only way you can fix it is people need to be properly educated. I don't care what side of the aisle you're on. Once you know something different, it changes your mind right, and so once you have the information, you can now form your own conclusion and you could start making decisions based on that. The current system we had in place was a propaganda arm of the Democratic Party or Republican Party, whatever you want to call it, Okay, them unit party, and they were pushing an agenda that came right from the power politicians, the new World Order, which is what I do is going to burn it all down. Make no mistake about it, okay. And I'm not making this up because once you shed light on something, you can't put it back in the box. And so the scale with me and what we're doing, because all these journalists are going to be out of work. You know how many journalists I talked to that said they broke stories, just like Amy Robock with the Epstein thing that was pulled. You know how many journalists I talked to that said they had big stories in their local communities that the newspaper would not run. I'm like, wait, countless, I imagine countless. Every one of. Them has stories about it, and nobody has to give them an answer. But you could figure it's a relative, or somebody spending a lot of money, or somebody knows them or whatever. The point is that ship has sailed, and so what will end up happening is what I do will become the next mainstream media. Make no mistake about it. It's all moving to platforms. We've got this dialed in. There's no possible way I could if six thousand news reporters and be doing something wrong. There's no possible way. But as we scale and build this and you get to fifty and one hundred thousand people, I'm gonna come on your show and I'm gonna tell you how many politicians are reaching out to be going, Sam, we want you to come visit with us, Okay, yeah, sure, can I tape record it? Yeah, so I can play please do yeah, please do that. Yeah yeah. Because they always get in bed with the media. And look what they did the Zuckerberg right they you know, they brought the FBI in and he welcomed them. That ain't happening with me. So and by the way, just for your audience, you're gonna say, well, you know you're gonna sell out. Some of the big players are going to buy you. So you know I'm doing the equity crowdfund. Okay. So, so by the way for everybody's interest. I'm my background is capital raising. It's all I've ever done, but I never did it through equity crowd funds. It's weird, but I like it. And normally when you raise capital through like for a tech company like mine or like Facebook or Amazon, you go through Silicon Valley. They bring it all the institutional money, they scale them up, and then you get to buy when it goes public. But it's all but all the big players get all the cheap stock. So in investments a private placement, you have to be an accredited investor, which means it eliminates ninety nine percent of the population, and so you basically can't play until they take in public. But with equity crowd funds, everybody can play, everybody. And so so what I want to do is I'm raising small amounts of money, Like I just did one on one platform and I and I just closed it out the other day. A month ago we started on a new platform and cable. You know how people raise a million, two million, five million. I'm only I just put it, just got it started. I'm raising three or six five grand. That's it. The next one's going to be a little bigger and the next one. I want to get this to between fifty and one hundred thousand creators because I will go to institutional money. But I'm doing it the opposite. I'm giving all the little guys the stock to scale the company up to where you get to where you have a valuation that's through the roof. Then I'll bring the institutional money in to take it public and they'll have to play. You can't not. But now what happens is at a company my size, they will control it. They will absolutely control it. By the time you get it to the point of no return. The only thing they could do is just join the bandwagon. They will not be able to buy enough stock. So I figured out what I need to do to keep over fifty one percent, which means that there can never be a hostile takeover because there's not enough stock out there. This has already been done in my head, so I'm not really good at playing ball. It's my way or to a highway. And as far as I'm concerned people, if we're truly going to be a people powered press, the people need to own it, not the institutions. And I could assure you whoever does own this product. If it's owned, if there's somebody that is going to do something for nefarious reasons, they can really go back to destroying the country again. So you need to be able to have a free press and the people need to be able to own it. So what I'll do is I'll put my stock in a trust, and that trust is going to have specific rules. I love this, I support this. It's a great plan, and it ensures that you're not bought out, that you don't sell out. You know, We're winding down to the end of the interview and I'm going to take everybody to your news real quick here. But one last question, a little fun one. You and I both like sports. We both agree that hockey is one of the greatest sports in the world. We're coming up on the Stanley Cup. It looks like it's going to be Carolina Hurricanes versus the Las Vegas Knights. Who you betting on? You know, I mean Icago, So I've root for Chicago, but I don't think they're gonna win. I'm also here in Florida, so I like the Panthers. I think the Panthers win last year. Yeah, but I mean, you don't have it either. You don't have Chicago, you don't have Florida in it. It's either it's either Vegas or Carolina. I think they're both unbelievable teams. But I'm gonna say this because if I have a partner in Vegas, she'll crucify me. Which's I'm gonna say Vegas? I think Vegas. Okay, we're going to disagree again. Hurricanes all the way. Come on, let's go Carolina. Can I tell you. Something what I love about a good hockey game. If I don't have a team in the haunt, I just like to watch it because when they're at that level, you know how the last five minutes of a hockey game gets really intense during the main this is the last five minutes for the whole game. Yeah, okay, it actually means something. When I used to play as a kid, the only thing we dreamed about was the Stanley Cup. Right I'm getting goosebumps right now. You're just to all you wanted to win, and watching these games is just to me. It's like it's as fast as these guys can skate. They're putting one hundred percent into it because it means something. Yep, they all want it and losing it's the worst thing, right, It's the worst thing because you wanted it so bad. So anyway, but yeah, I you know, I'm cheered for both of them. To be honest with you, I just want to watch a good game. What I don't like is blowouts. That's what I do like, absolutely, but I like it. To come down to overtime and you. Know, some amazing shot, not not a bad. Call that leads to a goal. You let them play, Yeah, absolutely, let them play. But I still stand by the hockey's the greatest game out there. You know. You know, there's athletes in every sport, but these guys are doing everything that they're doing in football and everything else on ice skates. Okay, you try that, ladies and gentlemen, hockey is the greatest sport in the world. If I could say one more thing, it's actually eat once. You know, on ice skate, you just don't ever want to walk. You just want to keep ice skating. It's just more fun. You're moving a lot faster, you can cut a lot quicker. I mean, it's uh god, I used to wish they used I used to go to school. I wish they would, you know, take the sidewalks and ice them so we could skate all the way to school. You know, that's how much I was into it. But I'm excited about it. That and golf. I like watching both of them. And you know, I know you're short on time here because this is going to be closing out. I got a tea time, I got to get to Oh I'm sorry. He's bringing up Florida again, Chris, real quick, exam your news. Why should everybody go to your news? Uh? This is going to become the next mainstream media. If you scroll down and by the way, you see where it says national news and then local, select local addition and find top stories, local edition top stories, so it says Spokane up at the top. So here you go, this is news in Spokane. I got local news all over the United States and we're onboarding people daily. But go to the bottom of a page as far as you could go. By the way, I just signed up a guy. You want to know what his business is, Left Coast News. His name is John. He does Left Coast News. So at the bottom of the page, if you want to become a citizen journalist, there's a button that says become a citizen journalist. You can be a local news reporter in your area. And Caleb, check this out, click the invest button. This is the new platform. It's thinking, it's thinking, it's coming. Internet's great. There we go. Okay, so the future of news belongs to the people. This whole thing has been redone. And then I got a new video up there which is seven minutes, and I had him to a facelift for me, so I look a little better in there. So I love it. Well, Sam, it is. It's always a joy to have you on the show. I just I do. I like every single time that I bring you on. You've been a reoccurring guest for Church and State, and I appreciate what you're doing. I appreciate that you saw a need and you didn't wait on somebody else to fix it. You said I can do something about this. So, ladies and gentlemen, go to yournews dot com. Please, Sam, once again, thanks for joining us on Churches State. My pleasure. Man always good to be here, and I look forward. To it the next time I come on, absolutely as do I. Well, there you go, ladies and gentlemen. Your news it is literally your news. You're in charge you can be a journalist. This is a solution. Decentralized media can win back for truth. 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